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Please wait for it to start before launching it again." 01:08:04 ${LangFileString} LauncherAlreadyStopping "Another instance of $AppNamePortable is currently closing. Please wait for it to finish before launching it again." 01:08:08 Those strings look OK? 01:08:10 *** TASAIRES has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01:09:29 Please wait for it to close before launching it again 01:09:33 Actually, I wonder whether mutex might be the better way to do it... runtime data is per-installation, mutex would be system-wide. 01:09:43 Yeah, close. 01:10:01 And the runtime data won't get stuck during a crash will it? So that when you run it later, it'll think it's starting when it really isnt? 01:10:24 If it did crash during that phase it would be somewhat broken. But it would be whatever, really... 01:10:53 Mightn't a mutex work better then? 01:11:05 Or can a mutex be added minimally just to check for that situation? 01:11:33 If a user shuts down one instance of App X, another instance of App X shouldn't start until the first is stopped, so I think a mutex is the proper way to do it. 01:12:07 Yeah 01:19:26 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: If you're dead, are you aware of it?) 01:19:44 ChrisMorgan: I've lost count of how many apps are using PAL now, btw 01:19:50 Another one is about to be posted. 01:20:07 One or two of the ones from the past fortnight haven't used PAL, I think? 01:21:07 Right. One. Can't recall which offhand. 01:24:37 JohnTHaller: are you okay with SARDU storing all those iso's in the Data folder? 01:25:24 Haven't seen it. Can't analyze atm. Finishing a release. Gimme a couple mins. 01:25:36 Okay. 01:38:26 Today's new app has been posted: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-13_-_money_manager_ex_portable_0.9.6 01:39:19 ok, JacobMastel what were you asking? 01:44:18 *** Y3K (bda887d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.168.135.211) has joined #portableapps 01:44:33 *** Y3K has quit (Client Quit) 02:02:26 JohnTHaller: sorry for the delay. I was wondering if you were okay with storing a ton of iso's in the data folder. 02:02:39 What are the ISOs from? 02:03:02 SARDU. It's uses ISO files to make multiboot usb or cd drives. 02:03:20 Whose ISOs are they? 02:03:23 That requires means it makes sense for it to stores a lot of ISO's file. 02:03:25 The users... 02:03:34 Then it's data 02:03:37 Whichever they download through the program or whatever custom ones they have. 02:03:55 Spose they could keep it in Documents too if they wanted 02:04:06 Mine alone covers around 6gigs. I just wasn't sure if that would be considered annoying for the PA.c backup. 02:06:26 Really up to the user. It'll be a REALLY slow backup in that case. 02:06:44 I'm amazed people still use ISOs and optical media, to be honest. 02:07:01 really? 02:07:06 I never use optical media... however you download ubuntu and every other distro as an ISO... 02:07:07 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02:07:42 Ah yes, that's true. 02:07:53 it's easier to extract files from an iso than to create one from scratch 02:08:11 It has an autodownload option for most of the popular distros. 02:08:22 You can add links to personal favorites. 02:09:00 That's a lot to keep on a portable device. 02:09:10 We'll just have to add a warning to the app homepage I spose. 02:09:16 Not of it's an eHDD. 02:10:10 Mine has a clonezilla, ubuntu, winXP-7 recovery disks, debian and a few other random stuff. 02:10:44 Would you like the default to be stored in the data folder or in Documents? 02:10:52 PA.c Backup should work ok with it, it will just be REALLY slow. 02:11:01 Doesn't matter, as some people backup documents. 02:11:27 Okay. For simplicity sake I'll leave it in Data... 02:15:24 *** Jedrzej_s (~Jedrzej@46.112.228.212) has joined #portableapps 02:18:44 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 02:35:15 *** Jedrzej_s has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:19:32 JohnTHaller: The new release isn't showing up on the homepage. 03:21:13 Really. I... um... totally put it on there... before or something. Try refreshing..... nnnnnn.... now. 03:21:34 It's there now :) 03:45:28 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03:49:42 *** JacobMastel has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03:58:07 *** JacobMastel (~jacobm001@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 04:18:40 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 04:31:59 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 04:41:19 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:41:33 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 04:49:23 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 04:49:23 OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with. 04:54:40 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:08:38 *** sar3th|away has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:11:12 *** sar3th (~sar3th@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-gvolkvcsmvlenmup) has joined #portableapps 05:11:13 sar3th is a freelance developer who values GizmoBot's services very much 05:42:09 Gnight all. Sleeping pill is kicking in. Will resume pushing many habby bits out in the AM. 05:43:38 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 06:17:15 *** pa_1406 (4b465b4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.70.91.76) has joined #portableapps 06:17:31 anyone here 06:17:37 nope :) 06:17:52 any developers 06:18:15 maybe 06:18:17 PAL? 06:18:36 tell you what, ask the question and if we can help we will 06:19:07 i need to know if the the portable apps menu can be used in a business 06:19:23 yep 06:19:49 yeh thanks oliver 06:19:50 for things like that, refer to the license, which is the GNU v3 06:20:07 its included 06:20:29 so you are one of the portable apps developers? 06:20:44 yeah 06:21:18 you know much about ccleaner 06:21:25 not much 06:22:17 i messaged them the same question because of questionable parts of there liscence 06:24:02 nothing I can do to help you there 06:27:33 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 06:41:44 *** pa_1406 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 07:04:39 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Page closed) 07:08:06 *** Tritonio has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:11:56 *** JacobMastel has quit (Quit: Leaving) 07:17:25 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@46.115.138.28) has joined #portableapps 07:51:45 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:23:00 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish) 08:39:20 *** Tritonio (~TrT@dias.ceid.upatras.gr) has joined #portableapps 10:44:49 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@plns-64-111-157-42-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 10:44:49 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Changing host) 10:44:49 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 10:45:36 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:45:41 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 10:57:55 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit) 11:15:00 *** marlop has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 11:17:52 *** sar3th has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11:31:47 *** marlop|away (~marlop@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-voryxkjdxajnypoc) has joined #portableapps 11:31:47 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 11:33:19 *** sar3th (~sar3th@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-ijbfngyfivgotxeg) has joined #portableapps 11:33:20 ... 11:53:23 *** Tritonio has quit (Quit: Leaving) 11:57:40 *** sar3th has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 11:59:48 *** sar3th (sar3th@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-zacipgxfwxtuwvee) has joined #portableapps 12:10:19 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 12:30:11 *** Guest94704 (c39e6bee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.158.107.238) has joined #portableapps 12:34:54 *** Guest94704 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12:43:26 *** marlop has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 12:44:43 *** sar3th has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12:47:43 *** marlop|away (marlop@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-bwuezxlawelskhez) has joined #portableapps 12:47:47 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 12:47:47 *** sar3th (sar3th@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-suktewawnmpirptm) has joined #portableapps 13:15:05 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 13:36:36 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-24-193-226-114.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 13:55:16 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-5f77c68c.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 13:56:33 *** Tritonio (~TrT@150.140.227.31) has joined #portableapps 14:08:50 *** rcmaehl (aab9e96b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.170.185.233.107) has joined #portableapps 14:21:40 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 14:30:03 *** Tritonio_GR (~TrT@150.140.227.31) has joined #portableapps 14:32:43 *** Tritonio_GR has quit (Client Quit) 14:35:49 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:40:05 *** rcmaehl has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14:53:42 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 15:14:16 *** Kiriko (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 15:16:22 *** Kiriko has quit (Client Quit) 15:26:31 *** Kiriko (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 15:28:03 *** Kiriko has parted #portableapps (None) 15:29:04 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 15:29:05 OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with. 15:32:46 *** Kiriko (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 15:33:43 *** Kiriko has quit (Client Quit) 15:34:41 *** Kiriko (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 15:34:58 *** Kiriko has quit (Client Quit) 15:36:42 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 15:46:19 *** Kiriko (~inanother@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 15:48:59 *** Tritonio has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:31:31 *** Kiriko has parted #portableapps (None) 16:37:56 *** Jedrzej_s (~Jedrzej@188.33.159.74) has joined #portableapps 16:38:00 *** Jedrzej_s has quit (Client Quit) 16:38:36 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-24-193-226-114.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 16:51:46 *** Tritonio (~TrT@150.140.227.31) has joined #portableapps 16:53:40 *** kAlug (bb657451@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.101.116.81) has joined #portableapps 16:59:01 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07EA90.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 17:12:24 *** Jedrzej_s (~Jedrzej@188.33.159.74) has joined #portableapps 17:14:07 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 17:17:19 *** m-p{3} (~unrealmp3@modemcable043.185-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #portableapps 17:17:33 Small question if someone's available. 17:18:03 what do you nee m-p{3}? 17:19:15 I just have a little issue with those online installer at the office. We use a proxy and the installer isn't able to download the file (for example Skype). Is there a way to pass some proxy information to the installer? 17:19:55 Not at present. A properly configured proxy in IE will be automatically detected and used by the installer. But some more-complicated corporate ones will not. 17:20:14 Oh alright, thanks :) 17:20:18 Hang on... 17:20:39 Download this file: http://download.skype.com/msi/SkypeSetup_5.1.0.104.msi 17:20:56 Stick it in the same directory as the Skype Portable installer, and it'll use that. 17:21:05 Ah great =) 17:21:12 Won't work if your corporate firewall blocks skype specifically, though, which is may. 17:21:57 Not a problem, I was mostly concerned with the installer :) 17:22:11 I just want to at least have it installed on my hard drive. 17:23:00 Gotta go eat, thanks for the quick response =) 17:23:05 Sure thing. 17:23:31 *** Jedrzej_s has quit (Quit: Leaving) 17:28:55 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-33-68-14.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 17:46:39 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17:52:58 *** Tritonio has quit (Quit: Leaving) 17:59:22 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 18:01:57 *** Jedrzej_s (~Jedrzej@188.33.159.74) has joined #portableapps 18:02:10 Hi all 18:03:12 hi 18:03:58 I'm very curios how fast portableapps are updated compare to official releases of the softwares. Does anybody know ? 18:04:24 It varies. Generally, major apps (firefox, chrome, etc) are updated the same day. 18:05:25 Things like games and utilities, it depends on how busy the workload is. We're working on the 2.0 platform, new website and a new app every day behind the scenes, so it has taken a little longer for a few apps in the last month. 18:06:07 JohnTHaller: Great !!! 18:06:37 Any outdated apps, you can monitor here: http://portableapps.com/node/19705 18:06:46 JohnTHaller: Does all software are totally free ??? 18:07:12 Everything on the site right now is completely free and fully legal, the only portable collection of its kind :) 18:07:47 JohnTHaller: I mean free for commercial use... 18:09:37 If you mean using it at a business, most apps are fine (some are personal use only). If you mean packaging and selling it, then it depends on the app. Some apps we are licensed to package and redistribute but it does not apply to 3rd parties (firefox, thunderbird, most freeware). 18:11:03 JohnTHaller: I mean using in my work :) 18:12:13 JohnTHaller: Does you one of the main maintainer of the portableapps ? 18:12:15 How do you mean? 18:12:19 I am. 18:12:37 JohnTHaller: I'm freelancer, graphic, etc. 18:12:58 JohnTHaller, I think he means commercial use in sense of using them for the daily business creating files/work with the apps. 18:13:02 Ah ok. All the open source apps as well as all our tools (platform, updater, backup, etc) you can use. 18:13:26 Most of the freeware you can use with the exception of any that says "For personal use only" or "Freeware for personal use" 18:14:31 Thasmo: Yes, I mean this 18:14:50 I'm using Dropbox to sync the PortableApps directory from my home place to my work and this is just pure awesomeness! 18:15:07 For example, Skype is "released as freeware for personal and business use". TeamViewe on the other hand is "Freeware for personal and educational use, business use requires a license" 18:15:11 And what absolutely rocks is also the update feature to update all apps in one run. 18:15:41 DropBox is pretty popular for PortableApps.com use, yes. Glad you like the updater :) A new version of it will be out any day now. 18:16:07 *** Kiriko (~inanother@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 18:16:50 JohnTHaller, you mean the updater or the menu?= 18:17:03 Offhand, I think the only freeware that is not allowed to be used for business is TeamViewer, IrfanView and XNView 18:17:18 Thasmo: Both. The updater and menu are both part of the platform. 18:17:24 ah ok 18:17:40 Im using the 2.0 beta 5 thingy menu with the option to update all apps. 18:17:57 Right. There will be an update shortly with some cool new features for that. 18:17:58 JohnTHaller: Ok. Same licenses like original softwares. 18:18:24 JohnTHaller, maybe finally the filetype association feature? 18:18:28 Jedrzej_s: Exactly. We get permission from the freeware publishers to repackage provided we keep the same license. 18:18:44 Thasmo: File type associations GUI should be done next week. 18:18:55 JohnTHaller, woohoo - nice! 18:20:06 JohnTHaller, I bet in some years portable applications (PortableApps) will become the standart - it's so much better, so flexible and easy to use. :> 18:20:24 Thasmo: Hopefully. We're working towards that goal this year. 18:20:43 Cool. 18:24:43 JohnTHaller: Do all softwares from PortableApps.com really don't put any file in Windows enviroment ? 18:25:12 We don' 18:25:45 JohnTHaller: I hate installing software, because after time Windows need reinstal... 18:25:46 We don't say doesn't put any file (as that would basically be a lie). Windows still creates things like prefetch files and some deep registry records which you can't remove unless you're an admin. 18:26:21 But it doesn't leave any personal files, and doesn't leave stuff in the standard registry, temp, documents, or application data. 18:29:37 JohnTHaller: Do totally similar to versions of the softwares which doesn't need install, just unpack ? 18:30:08 Not sure what you mean. You mean is this similar to Zipped apps that publishers sometimes distribute? 18:30:15 JohnTHaller: For example Blender are distribute also with that kind. Only unpack. 18:30:28 JohnTHaller: yes 18:30:30 Generally, zip versions are meant as an easy install, they are not portable. 18:31:12 The ones that are marked as portable are often only semi-portable. They'll still set a filetype association, leave behind a couple registry keys, lose their recently opened files list as you move PCs (and the drive letter changes), etc. 18:33:27 JohnTHaller: Hmmmm... This is very interesting... 18:34:07 *** CruelC (~chatzilla@46.159.234.76) has joined #portableapps 18:34:21 0hai. I cheated. 18:34:47 There are other issues, as zipped versions can be more tricky to upgrade (some will overwrite your settings if you just unzip over the current one, some will not, some require downloading a special 'update version'), they all store their data in different locations making it harder to back up, etc. 18:35:57 I took the FF 4 beta 8 rus installer, opened it in 7z, deleted the contents of app/firefox and copied the contents of the installer's "core" folder there 18:36:06 One of the goals of PA.c Format is to make it all consistent. Everything in the same place for every app. 18:37:00 but one thing bothers me. If I update Firefox's beta through pacupd, it will nuke my settings 18:37:35 pacupd, for some reason, nukes the folder before updating the app. 18:38:19 PAcUPD - PA.c Updater 18:38:51 JohnTHaller: Do you mean: Everything of one app in one folder ? 18:39:30 JohnTHaller: Second app only in second folder, right ? 18:40:15 Jedrzej_s, not sure if he means that, but yes - every app has its folder and all files should belong to the folder - no other files would be created outside from the app itself. 18:40:40 Jedrzej_s: Each app is in its own folder. appnameportable/app/appname 18:41:02 thats why you can copy/paste all portable apps whereever you like - into any folder you like or on a usb stick. 18:41:53 actually, copying an installed application is not always safe, as some apps only handle drive letter changes...at least that's what i heard in general 18:42:12 Thasmo:, JohnTHaller: Whenever an app is updated via PAcUPD, it, for some reason, loses settings 18:43:03 Is there some automated workaround? 18:43:24 sar3th: Do you mean portableapps ? 18:44:27 UQM can't be portabilized, that's what sar3th meant 18:44:36 UQM is one of the examples 18:44:39 sar3th, r u refering to portable apps or installed apps? 18:44:45 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.178.221.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 18:45:02 to installed apps that are _not_ possible to portabilize. 18:45:15 ..brb phone 18:45:38 * CruelC is angry 18:45:41 no, i was refering to an installed portableapp 18:45:50 ye well only portable apps can be copied wherever you like, imo. 18:45:57 not all of these handle /relocation/ properly, some only do drive letter changes 18:45:57 sar3th, ow I see. 18:46:38 sar3th, that's why Skype Portable always forgets user login credentials on different PCs. ... oO 18:46:42 portableapp "installed" with bare-PAF? 18:47:29 porableapp downloaded and installed into your portableapps folder for example 18:47:31 in PAF 18:48:01 bare PAF means no paplatform 18:48:45 doesn't matter. a PAF-application installed into any folder 18:49:04 CruelC: Everything updated with the updater preserves userdata. 18:49:28 JohnTHaller: not for me, oddly 18:49:40 The AppName\App folder is generally removed first (while preserving specific things like plugins), but Appname\Date is always preserved. 18:50:16 Data, nvm. 18:50:39 The updater just downloads and installs Firefox Portable using its standard installer (just in silent mode). If you're seeing different, that's an unknown bug. If that is the case, please write up all the details and post it in the Firefox Portable Support forum so we can address it. 18:51:24 JohnTHaller, skype portable can't remember login credentials when starting it on vista and then on windows 7 or other way round. Any idea what it is? 18:51:57 No idea. I don't test on Vista normally. 18:52:01 k 18:52:29 Please post a detailed account including install path etc to the forums. Perhaps newer skype is using a different registry path on vista for some reason. 18:52:45 I'm on 7 18:53:07 CruelC, not sure if he meant me so. 18:53:19 I mneant you, too, Thasmo 18:53:22 xD 18:53:46 JohnTHaller, what you mean by 'account'? 18:54:32 detailed acccount... as in an account of all the details of the issue.. install path, what you are seeing when, whether anything is saved to \Data, etc 18:55:00 well, I had that crap. Firefox 4 beta 8 losing settings when updated via PAcUPD 18:55:17 beta 7 to beta 8 upgrade * 18:56:18 CruelC: Again, we need a detailed account including install path, any customizations, etc to the forums to really address it. And I have not encountered that issue before, so it's not just a general bug that happens for everyone. We don't do big bugs via IRC. It's just for quick issues. 18:56:50 CruelC: That way we can have multiple people check it out. Ask any followup questions. Try some solutions. Etc 18:57:26 D:\portableapps platform\PortableApps\FirefoxPortableTest 18:57:37 *** m-p{3} has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 18:57:55 that's the installation path. 18:58:21 *** m-p{3} (~unrealmp3@modemcable043.185-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #portableapps 18:58:21 I'm not going to be able to test it out now, CruelC, so I can't really do anything with the information directly. ANd when I do have time to attempt to analyze the issue, we'll need to ask followup questions since you seem to be the only one affected. 18:58:23 CruelC, post all details here, please: http://portableapps.com/forums/support/firefox_portable 19:00:23 *** CruelC has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 19:00:53 JohnTHaller, you may add 'Cloud Sync' to 'Portable Device:' in the Forums Registration Form. I'll post that on the forums so, if you don't mind. 19:01:12 I hope he does post. I don't understand people who are annoyed enough by a bug to say 'this is broken', but unwilling to give details and assist in fixing it. 19:01:36 Cloud Sync? 19:02:06 JohnTHaller, eh like 'dropbox' 'sugarsync' etc. 19:02:22 I know what it is.. I don't understand what you are referencing with it 19:03:16 you can choose your device, in the forums and one is 'i use it on my pc' and another is 'network share' - so I think 'cloud sync' is an option missing because it's different to those available. 19:03:28 Ah ok 19:03:38 I thought you meant the registration guidelines. 19:03:43 nah the form 19:03:51 profile settings I think they are. 19:03:52 It's actually the user profile. 19:03:54 ye :> 19:04:04 Hence the confusion. 19:05:14 Cloud Drive or Files added 19:06:48 cool, thanks. nice. fast. :> 19:14:00 JohnTHaller, where to report app problems? In the dedicated app forum or under development? 19:16:32 depends on the app. if it's released, in the appropriate forum (specific to app or 'other'). if a dev test, in its thread 19:19:48 alright, tjx. 19:19:49 thx 19:22:38 Hey guys I wanted to know if you have any ideas to improve PAD-Kit? Sorry to ask here but I want a quick responce to it, so I can get on it right away. 19:22:54 Kiriko: DIdn't you get my email about that? 19:23:14 No not yet 19:23:24 PM me your email address. I sent it weeks ago 19:24:19 Jan 2 to be exact. To the hotmail address associated with your acct. 19:25:13 *** TASAIRES has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:27:31 YAY!!! FF4b9 is out. So JohnTHaller should have it in..say...an hour? :P 19:30:08 Yay, thanks JohnTHaller. xD 19:47:30 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 19:55:12 *** WifiWombat (~OliverKry@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 19:55:13 ... 20:08:09 *** Jedrzej_s has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) 20:09:06 *** Jedrzej_s (~Jedrzej@188.33.159.74) has joined #portableapps 20:15:49 I hope portableapps will use soon LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.org :) 20:17:00 well guys im out for now talk to you later :) 20:17:06 later Kiriko 20:17:17 *** Kiriko has parted #portableapps (None) 20:17:27 JohnTHaller: I hope portableapps will use soon LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.org, what do you think abouy it ? 20:18:54 *** Simeon (~simeon@dslb-094-217-183-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 20:18:58 hi all 20:19:05 hi john 20:19:08 hi 20:20:20 JohnTHaller: I mean after released stable version... 20:34:53 @Jedrzej_s: I know we will. Marko is already working on it. 20:36:40 Simeon: Great :) 20:37:00 We already have internal test builds of it that have been tried. 20:38:15 "have been tried" - sounds mysterious :) 20:38:24 tested i mean 20:40:36 *** WifiWombat has quit (Quit: Leaving) 20:44:49 ff4b9 is building 20:45:17 although I dont use it, I say Nice! 20:45:40 chrome? 20:45:52 Firefox 20:46:02 No, I meant what do you use, chrome? 20:46:03 just not the betas 20:46:08 Oh ok 20:46:40 nice work on the update backlog btw! 20:47:03 JohnTHaller, does ff4 have sync built in? someone claims the extension 'sync' doesnt work with beta 9, but I think sync is already built into firefox 4? 20:47:13 it's built in 20:47:27 k, thanks. thought so. 20:59:14 gonna go sneak in a quick workout. will post ff4b9 when I return 20:59:28 have fun! 21:05:56 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.178.221.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 21:16:12 *** Jedrzej_s has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21:33:56 bye all 21:34:00 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 21:34:47 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 21:40:41 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 21:41:12 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 21:51:59 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 21:58:20 *** m-p{3} has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 22:09:01 *** Bluh (48decfb8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.222.207.184) has joined #portableapps 22:09:14 Hey 22:09:25 hi 22:10:02 I'm getting this error opening my gnucash file "Can't parse the URL file/E:\PortableApps\GnuCashPortable\Data\Profile\Testing" Am I screwed? 22:10:39 Did you move anything around or have any errors on your device? 22:12:41 *** TASAIRES has quit (Quit: Saliendo) 22:13:00 Not that I know of. I saved it, closed it and tryed to open it back up and I got that. 22:13:17 Did you open it immediately after closing, or some time later? 22:14:53 And is that where you saved your GnuCash file? To GnuCashPortable\Data\Profile and you called it Testing, correct? 22:16:51 I tryed to open it a minute or to later. The path is right but the file name I change for online. 22:18:21 Ok. If you browse to your GCP\Data\Profile directory, you should see additional files with names like Testing.YYYYMMDDHHMMSS.gnucash. Those are gnucash backup files from each time you saved previously. First, backup everything in that directory to another location. Then, try opening up one of the most recent backups. 22:23:15 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 22:23:43 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 22:26:55 I couldn't even copy it the folder so I ejected the drive and pluged it back it, waiting for it to do a scan to make sure it's error free >.< 22:27:11 If you couldn't copy it, that means something is up with the drive. 22:28:36 Hopefully, it will work ok when you plug it back in and scan it. 22:28:48 Firefox 4.0 Beta 9 is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-14_-_firefox_portable_4.0_beta_9 22:29:28 Seems to have stopped, going to reset computer. Which file, the txt or xal(sp?)? 22:30:05 Neither. Gnucash default files have no extensions (that I know of) other than the backups (.gnucash extension) and logs (.log extension). At least in my local copy. 22:30:36 .log is what I might of thought of. 22:31:23 I will be back. Thanks for the help. :D 22:31:25 The ones you're inteterested in are the .gnucash ones if your main Testing file is damaged. Reboot, scan, copy all the files in that directory off. Then try opening the ones with the newer timestamps in the filenames first 22:31:51 Ok 22:32:19 *** Bluh has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:32:30 back in a few... 22:37:03 *** kAlug (bb65a311@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.101.163.17) has joined #portableapps 22:44:07 JohnTHaller, can I use the updater of firefox 4 to update to beta 9 or should I use the pa.c updater? 22:44:43 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 22:44:52 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Later, all!) 22:46:17 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 22:46:17 GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Portable and Scribus Portable 22:55:33 *** GordCaswell has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:58:22 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 22:59:18 *** pa_7600 (48decfb8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.222.207.184) has joined #portableapps 22:59:22 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 22:59:35 God it wotking, Thanks JohnTHaller :D 22:59:52 *** pa_7600 is now known as Bluh 23:00:03 Got it working* 23:01:24 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a79-169-161-157.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 23:01:25 excellent! 23:02:09 Thasmo: Either will do fine. But it's best to do it via the platform so that it won't try and update it again later (ifyou auto-update in FF, the version of the portable app doesn't get updated) 23:02:29 JohnTHaller, alright. Thanks! 23:02:31 It must of been an error, I was luckey one of them worked. 23:02:46 FF4, pretty impressive: http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/01/firefox-4-beta-9-a-huge-pile-of-awesome/ 23:02:49 Yeah, it does the auto-backups just in case, which is a nice feature 23:03:23 4b9 is noticeably faster 23:03:52 JohnTHaller, really good to hear. 23:04:06 JohnTHaller, you mean overall or at booting? 23:05:04 Alright, I must run to dinner. Later all! 23:05:12 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 23:06:28 *** Bluh has quit (Quit: Page closed) 23:21:54 *** ptmb has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23:26:40 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: please test Scribus portable and Scribus-NG portable, particularly language-switching :)) 23:58:49 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)