00:12:34 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 00:13:08 Oh shoot, does anyone have a copy of eXpresso 1.5 Alpha 2 source code? O_o 00:13:24 I just found out my only copy of the source is on a bricked seagate hard drive >_< 00:14:08 *** gluxon has quit (Client Quit) 00:14:38 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 00:16:58 Whew, SciTE4 created eXpresso.ahk.bat 00:17:08 *eXpresso.ahk.bak 00:34:50 *** Thasmo has quit () 00:57:50 *** Computator_ (~rlifshay@unaffiliated/computator) has joined #portableapps 00:58:00 *** Computator_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 01:04:36 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Bye!) 01:06:51 *** JacobMastel (~Jacob_Mas@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 01:06:59 *** JacobMastel has parted #portableapps (None) 01:08:11 *** JacobMastel (~jacobm001@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 01:30:02 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 01:31:01 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:31:16 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 02:03:49 *** FredM1 (~Fred@dslb-088-078-023-017.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 02:06:25 *** FredM has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02:17:37 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 02:40:01 *** JacobMastel has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:57:46 *** rcmaehl_fallback (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 02:59:54 *** rcmaehl_fallback is now known as rcmaehl 03:14:32 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:25:42 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 03:25:42 OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with. 03:40:08 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.23.153) has joined #portableapps 03:40:21 hi Scriptdaemonq 03:40:47 JohnTHaller, I'm running 7 too. That makes no sense. 03:40:57 Did you only try against French? 03:41:09 Yup 03:41:26 I tried a couple random ones, let me try French. 03:42:28 German same thing 03:42:41 French still works for me. 03:42:46 And German. 03:42:56 Always comes up in English for me after a close regardless of lang. 03:43:27 How are you doing it? Open settings > change drop down menu value > close settings > close program > restart program? 03:43:39 If I ditch your language section, it works properly 03:43:47 Yup 03:44:07 It is properly saving it to the file on exit. I checked the .reg. But your launcher.ini cause it to reset every time. 03:44:37 We might have to talk to Chris about this. I'm wondering what differences there are between our setups. 03:44:42 Where are you installing it? 03:45:16 (It might be a PAL issue somehow) 03:45:33 P:\PortableApps 03:45:55 ConfidRead just shouldn't be used with INI files. Too many issues. 03:46:17 PAL does need an additiona feature to add TrimLeft. Without it, we can't do lang switching for this app. 03:47:18 And you're launching it directly? 03:47:27 (I know it's a stupid question, but I'm baffled) 03:47:38 Wait, your Rev 2 package is using PAL 2.0. But your launcher.ini has 2.1 features in it. 03:47:51 Did you accidentally build it with the wrong one? 03:48:02 No it's not? I don't even have 2.0 installed. 03:48:03 O.o 03:48:24 I dunno. Try regenerating the launcher on your end? 03:49:07 The package you have on your DropBox that you sent me is using the launcher *I* generated for the original Rev 1 03:49:11 Which is PAL 2.0 03:50:05 Oh. So this is still on your end. =P 03:50:16 Regenerate with 2.1? 03:50:21 You used it and sent it to me in a package for release, my friend :P 03:50:22 and retest* 03:50:30 It seems to be working with PAL2.1b2 03:50:42 I assumed it was my launcher from the DT! 03:51:27 I knew it would work. =P 03:54:54 Ok, I'm using yours, rebuilding it with PAL2.1b2, digitally signing, removing the LanguageStrings section since it is empty, setting to 1.9.3.2 / 1.9.3 Rev 3 in appinfo.ini. 03:55:20 And then installer and sign. Sound good? 03:55:49 Want me to temp post it so you can doublecheck it quick? Just to be safe 03:56:05 Yeah, let's do that. 03:56:12 Ok, gimme a min 03:57:06 About the LanguageStrings section, I sometimes forget that. I comment languages that the PA.c menu doesn't support but the base app does, just so I know what I'm doing. 03:57:32 http://portableapps.com/temp/WorkravePortable_1.9.3_Rev_3.paf.exe 03:57:55 I mean in launcher.ini. It's blank excpt for one commented out thing 03:58:47 Yeah, I know. That's what I was talking about. 04:00:48 Oh, one thing. I only use file write once to check for the last directory letter and partial directory combined. I can't think of a situation that would require it to find the last directory letter only. Do you think I should put it in anyway? 04:01:14 Yes, we should. If someone has a custom sound file in X:\Documents for example 04:02:28 I'll add it in now and post that as final as long as you are happy with the currnet build 04:02:28 Alright, I'll put up the .ini on Dropbox. 04:02:33 Okay, You can do it too. 04:02:34 lol 04:02:43 http://pastebin.com/syf4VhVP 04:03:09 We could use the double backslash, but it's not really needed 04:03:30 X:\ is generally unique to paths either way. 04:04:07 Yeah. It'd really only be necessary for the partiqal. 04:04:09 partial* 04:04:12 Alright, looks good. 04:04:45 So, in the future. Regenerate launchers for my apps with 2.1. =P 04:04:51 As a general rule, we do partial and then drive letter only (in that order) for all files with path replacement just for situations where a user may point a custom thing to an unexpected location 04:05:41 Yeah. I ran into the problem of doing it in the opposite order already. lol 04:09:17 Great, SF release system mirrored a partial file for it. 04:09:37 Hehe. 04:10:15 What new app should I post tonight? 04:11:04 JohnTHaller: what apps you got? 04:11:14 http://portableapps.com/development/test 04:11:25 Say the app (e.g. Spybot) ONLY keeps a path for the current directory, do I still need both? 04:11:39 LMMS? :D 04:12:02 (Assuming I'm not allowed to nominate my own right after you released one of mine.) 04:12:03 Something simple and more niche since it won't get as much publicity 04:12:21 Hrm. 04:12:27 JohnTHaller: speccy 04:12:49 Nope. We need Piriform's go-ahead. Still chatting with them. Actually overdue for a followup. 04:13:16 Texter 04:13:19 Other than that though, it's good to go, when they finally decide on it. 04:13:37 Texter is messy due to the huge number of files moving around. I wouldn't call it final yet. 04:14:27 Are you doing Java apps now? 04:14:39 Okay, well I have to go. My birthday is tomorrow and I'm going to be getting a LOT of phone calls so I'll need sleep. BYE =D 04:14:40 No. Not until fully handled by the launcher and platform 04:14:52 Bye rcmaehl. Happy bday! 04:15:03 thx 04:15:06 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: My birthday is Feb 5!) 04:15:26 Maybe I'll just post GetSudoku and get it out of the way 04:15:50 Yeah. Are you doing low priority apps throughout the whole weekend? 04:16:40 I'd say get Cube out tomorrow or Sunday if that's the case, then do Sauerbraten on a good day. I'm anxious to report to them download stats and whatnot. 04:17:06 Prob. I often go to older abandonded apps on the ready for release list and give them a quick PAL treatment and release 04:17:14 Ah. 04:17:15 Nah, I want those during the week 04:17:20 Alright. 04:17:24 We should promote em, they're solid games 04:17:36 I just figured, Cube is rather old so Sauerbraten is the big one. 04:17:48 But you're right. 04:19:08 Well, GetSudoku has no settings, so that's easy 04:19:25 :) 04:19:33 I love that. 04:21:37 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 04:22:25 hi ChrisMorgan 04:22:31 Hey JohnTHaller 04:22:47 We were just discussing a PAL want earlier. 04:23:04 I believe he's already planning TrimLeft, actually. 04:23:05 TrimLeft with INI LanguageFiles 04:23:08 Ah cool 04:23:24 I remember speaking about it with you, right ChrisMorgan? 04:23:59 I did have it as a thing I should implement. Didn't actually put it in my roadmap though. 04:24:48 Lots of .reg files need it due to quotes 04:25:05 No - INI will get rid of the quotes on reading. 04:25:23 I still say it's fine as is as long as *someone* doesn't generate the launcher with 2.0. >.> 04:25:32 In theory. Except that it doesn't 04:25:48 You get a line like "Foo"="bar", you get the [LanguageFile] Key='"Foo"' and the value will be read as ``bar`` 04:25:52 Scriptdaemon: I switched it to 2.1b2 and it still failed with the INI reading 04:26:05 That's why I don't use INI reading. =P 04:26:23 That's not what I'm referring to as "fine" though. 04:26:28 I know what you mean for TrimLeft. 04:26:30 It works fine, we just need to strip it. ConfigRead on a .reg can get messy fast 04:28:20 *** pa_6119 (42c176a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.193.118.160) has joined #portableapps 04:28:33 ChrisMorgan: Correct, but we need the string fr not the string "fr" 04:28:48 JohnTHaller: the quotes should be being stripped. If they're not, it's a bug in Windows. 04:29:39 Grab my Rev 2 of Workrave and regenerate the launcher (I think i had it as 2.0 in the actual release) if you want to see it in action 04:29:50 *** pa_6119 has quit (Client Quit) 04:30:12 You also forgot to change entry= to key= in yours as well, btw JohnTHaller 04:30:28 entry is for ConfigRead, key is for INI. 04:30:28 Yeah I saw that after I posted it. 04:30:34 K. 04:31:21 I think I may have just totally messed it up then :( 04:31:45 Teach you to doubt my launcher.ini skills. 04:32:33 Do you want to do a rev for Spybot? I'm adding relative path changing to it, and I don't think 2.0 will be out for awhile still. 04:33:15 Does it need it? Is there much a user custom selects pathwise? 04:33:56 I haven't tested moving it, but it keeps a registry key for the current path. 04:33:58 No idea why. 04:34:28 It may just reset that on its own. Try moving it. 04:34:54 we try and only do revs if we really need to. don't want to force users to download stuff 04:38:38 It does regenerate it on its own. 04:38:41 Cool. 04:38:52 Cool 04:40:25 I may be a glutton for punishment, I say that as I'm working on a 64bit build of mplayer >_< 04:40:36 *facepalm* why? 04:41:14 just for the challenge I suppose 04:41:33 But why not take on something challenging and useful 04:41:47 Yeah, like fix Regshot. 04:41:50 So it's a challenge while working on it *AND* you get something useful when you're done that you can share with others 04:42:29 well the 64bit build of mplayer was more or less for myself, It's my break from PChat/ChillPlayer 04:42:52 Just go play halo, dude :-P 04:43:01 haven't played that in ages 04:43:08 Ew. 04:43:12 Play Counterstrike. 04:43:28 never liked counterstrike that much to be honest 04:43:36 Blasphemy! 04:43:42 lately though I've been getting all the steam achivements for Half Life 2 though 04:43:57 I got those a long time ago. 04:44:01 down to like 4 to finish 04:44:09 I'm still waiting for EP 3. :( 04:44:12 same 04:44:15 and portal 2 04:44:21 I've played through HL2 3 times now :) 04:44:28 sad to say portal 2 is the one that is actually coming out xD 04:44:39 Yes, but that actually has a release date. Nobody knows what's going on with Ep 3 right now. 04:44:44 Yeah. 04:44:45 lol 04:45:02 black mesa source is a joke now too :/ 04:45:14 they too follow valve time 04:45:31 THe funniest out of all of this, Duke Nukem Forever is finally coming out. 04:45:32 lol 04:45:33 The* 04:45:54 never was a nukem guy 04:46:13 I liked playing them way back. 04:46:21 The new one looks awesome though. 04:46:48 hmm flac is giving me some issues, oh well not technically needed for mplayer 04:47:23 I'll finish it tomorrow 04:47:46 Oh guys, I got our updated traffic numbers the other day. 04:47:56 Oh? 04:47:59 and? 04:48:25 We're closing in on 2 million absolute unique visitors a month (Google Analytics term) 04:48:30 wow 04:48:47 That puts us in BoingBoing and Slashdot territory. 04:48:49 ? 04:48:54 Zach took that word right out of my mouth. 04:48:54 :O 04:49:09 Keep releasing apps and it'll grow. 04:49:15 Apparently :) 04:49:45 Though it gets more expensive as it grows. Gonna do a donation drive as soon as I post the next beta. 04:49:55 Yeah. 04:50:19 Still operating at a loss and all. 04:50:24 Ad revenue doesn't grow as well? (I've not worked with ads directly before). 04:50:58 in the 4 years I started with adsense, I've only made $8 xD 04:51:08 Does PA.c even have ads? I forget, since I use Adblock and all. >.> 04:51:20 yeah they do 04:51:26 Gotcha. 04:51:27 yeah 04:51:27 I disable adblock for portableapps.com 04:51:32 ^^ +1 04:51:47 I probably should. I just haven't done it for anything for the entire time I've had it. 04:51:49 Doing it now. 04:52:30 I've kept the ads really small. Just 2. The plan is to ditch em once the site is self-supporting (hardware and software partners) 04:53:12 Are you currently talking to any commercial developers? 04:53:24 I've had no luck with any I've asked. =\ 04:53:41 Yeah, a few. They're more interested as we grow, of course. 04:54:08 Yeah. Maybe I can convince VS Revo Group after I report to them some download stats. 04:54:58 A lot of the newer individual apps are still relatively low in terms of stats (well compared to 10s of millions on our major apps). But that should ramp up with the platform updates. 04:55:10 Yeah. 04:55:24 When the updater is on a stable release, especially. 04:55:32 in* 04:58:15 Well, I require nourishment. I'll be back soon. 04:59:27 night all 04:59:34 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT[AFK] 05:06:25 Today's new app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-02-04_-_get_sudoku_portable_1.0_released 05:08:58 ... and I am off to bed. gnight all 05:10:43 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 05:10:47 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 05:10:50 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:17:26 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 05:24:20 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 05:37:47 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05:39:49 coooooool 05:39:56 my bro will love that app xD 05:43:25 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 06:08:28 *** Kiriko (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 06:08:51 hi guys! :) 06:13:09 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish) 07:11:28 good night guys! :) 07:11:43 *** Kiriko has quit (Quit: Leaving) 07:29:57 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@109.250.60.179) has joined #portableapps 07:36:45 *** Zarggg has quit (Quit: Zarggg) 07:45:50 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09:13:01 *** marlop (marlop@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-xfbmszvxusdokdfv) has joined #portableapps 09:26:14 *** TheBigD (~David@c83-250-203-149.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #portableapps 10:55:41 *** TheBigD has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:22:43 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.57.0.72) has joined #portableapps 11:46:59 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-32-185-123.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 11:59:18 *** FredM1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 11:59:31 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 12:30:18 *** Thasmo has quit () 12:37:21 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 12:41:44 *** amdzero (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 12:49:00 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 13:02:54 *** BjornH has quit (Quit: Leaving) 13:15:39 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 13:30:21 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (opera@cs181095174.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 13:45:37 *** ZachT[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 14:14:27 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 14:46:40 *** HamidR (Hamid@115.117.153.208) has joined #portableapps 14:53:35 *** HamidR has quit (Quit: Leaving) 14:58:02 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 15:15:36 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 15:16:13 If anybody is around, please try browsing several pages on the site and let me know if it feels faster. 15:32:22 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@94-224-138-250.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 15:47:06 JohnTHaller, I'd say it does 15:49:09 Cool. Been tweaking the config a bit more. 15:52:26 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15:53:02 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 15:53:03 ... 15:55:03 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 15:56:26 *** amdzero (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 16:06:45 *** Hamidr (~Miranda@121.245.34.185) has joined #portableapps 16:07:57 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07D937.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 16:24:34 *** rainroom691 (~RainrooM@94-224-138-250.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 16:24:34 *** rainroom69 has quit (Disconnected by services) 16:24:34 *** rainroom691 is now known as rainroom69 16:25:05 *** Hamidr has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16:37:01 *** rainroom691 (~RainrooM@94-224-138-250.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 16:37:02 *** rainroom69 has quit (Disconnected by services) 16:38:50 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a79-169-161-157.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 16:41:01 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@94-224-138-250.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 16:42:40 *** rainroom691 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:43:41 *** rainroom691 (~RainrooM@94-224-138-250.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 16:43:50 *** rainroom69 has quit (Disconnected by services) 16:46:47 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 16:59:26 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 17:01:41 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@74-141-213-46.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 17:01:41 *** rcmaehl has quit (Changing host) 17:01:41 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 17:04:37 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 17:08:53 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish) 17:26:29 *** rainroom691 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 17:43:13 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@94-224-138-250.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 18:27:39 *** MildBill (~MildBill@unaffiliated/mildbill) has joined #portableapps 18:27:56 Help! 18:28:58 I don't know if it's possible, but is there a way to have Google Chrome as the default browser for Portable Apps? 18:29:47 What do you mean by "the default browser for Portable Apps?" 18:31:23 Well, as a for instance, if I click on one of the help in Portable apps, it starts Friefox to go to the page, as opposed to Chrome. This is true in several places. 18:33:18 Hm. I don't know if PortableApps.com Menu uses the default browser of if it's hardcoded to Firefox Portable. 18:34:32 I think I heard something about this choice being possible in future platform versions. 18:36:16 Currently using 1.6.1, so maybe if I update to 2.05 ? 18:37:53 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 18:38:03 nope, b5 for sure doesn't give you the choice 18:39:14 *** rainroom69 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18:39:49 Darn! Well, in that case I'll stick with 1.6.1 for now. 18:39:52 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 18:50:08 Thanks! 18:50:13 Later 18:50:24 *** MildBill has quit (Quit: Leaving) 18:59:20 *** kaeos (~Miranda@90.164.135.241) has joined #portableapps 20:04:12 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 20:12:52 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 20:13:55 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 20:22:18 *** Simeon (~simeon@dslb-092-075-239-244.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 20:22:25 hi all 20:22:27 hi John 20:22:31 hola 20:23:47 sf.net is slow atm... 20:23:55 450 kb a sec. 20:24:12 specific mirror or overall? 20:24:26 i tried 2 ovn was 200, mesh is 450. 20:24:38 ...and GnuCash is big :) 20:25:28 yeah, it got bigger 20:25:29 at least its working at all. thx for the rush of apps over the last days john 20:25:42 sure thing. wanted to get all the outdated caught up 20:27:07 gnucash went up 30 mb - thats a lot! 20:28:01 food is waiting - see yall later 20:28:10 later Simeon 21:10:16 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 21:17:40 *** kaeos has quit (Quit: kaeos) 21:29:14 one thing I wanted to get some feedback out: I like the short description in brackets you started putting into the release titles - a short hint about what the thing does. 21:29:33 Yeah, I figured it was handy for titles and for twitter 21:29:42 definitively 21:30:33 Simeon: were you around when I told everybody else our updated traffic numbers? 21:30:58 i read the logs: 2 millions or something wasnt it? 21:31:48 closing in on 2 million absolute unique visitors a month. about on par with BoingBoing and Slashdot 21:31:48 I am 6 hours earlier than you so it was like the middle of the night or something :) 21:32:48 nice 21:34:54 btw site seem faster to you today? 21:35:25 not really. switching off the live stats made it a lot better - no improvement from there. 21:50:10 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 21:54:32 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 21:57:14 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@85.218.150.37) has joined #portableapps 22:08:08 gnight all 22:08:14 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 22:15:22 *** Kiriko (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:16:09 hi guys!:) 22:16:15 hola 22:19:06 man do we have the worlds biggest ice sakteting rink ever! 22:33:59 *** AlleyKat is now known as Alley^Away 22:35:24 *** Kiriko has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:40:36 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 22:44:03 *** Alley^Away has quit (Quit: Work- or sleeptime. Damn how that stuff interferes with my free time. *Miranda-IM rules*) 22:49:28 *** ronjn (~ronjn@dslb-092-075-242-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 23:14:16 *** rcmaehl has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23:26:50 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)