00:11:10 *** Guest3205 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 00:20:48 *** DannyMuniz[AWAY] is now known as DannyMuniz 00:21:11 this is one something you guys have to keep an eye http://gizmodo.com/5802410/these-cute-brownies-will-literally-knock-you-unconscious 00:32:22 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 00:33:21 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00:53:47 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 00:59:43 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01:00:55 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 01:05:13 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:09:14 *** mrmcpowned (~meh@unaffiliated/sh-chris) has joined #portableapps 01:30:31 *** MaienM has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01:31:22 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 02:01:12 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:01:21 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller 02:04:56 Hi JohnTHaller 02:05:09 did you get my email? 02:05:12 hey john! 02:05:16 hi agdurrette. which one? 02:05:19 hi DannyMuniz 02:05:36 the one with gpodder 2.15 02:06:29 Ah yes. Thanks. It's one of the 1/2 dozen apps I 02:06:31 m updating now. 02:07:27 ah man don't tell me you are going to have an update marathon tonight 02:07:30 :D I still have no clue how you handle all that at the same time :P 02:08:22 I'm usually better about app updates, but I've been finishing up the last bits of the platform update in the time I'm not working on the two business issues. 02:08:42 Ok, there's Chrome Beta: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-05-16_-_google_chrome_portable_12.0.742.53_beta 02:15:48 agdurrette: You forgot the launcher.py updates for the release. I added them in. 02:17:54 I thought I copied it from gpodder portable 2.14 :/ 02:18:00 On the 2.0 front, the updater/app directory translation setups are updated and working (including swapping in subcategory for description). And the 3rd aero-style (though not true aero yet) chrome for theming is done. I have screenshots if anyone would like to see. 02:18:16 agdurrette: You need to manually update the script for each release. You can't just copy the old one. 02:18:39 Oh 02:19:42 Category translations are done. Though for smart mode (default screen after favorites) I'm just gonna use total app launch counts for now to determine popularity of apps on the default screen rather than a rolling 5 day total as the code for that is kinda broken. 02:20:15 Here's Aerish: http://portableapps.com/temp/platform2/aerishtheme.png http://portableapps.com/temp/platform2/aerishblacktheme.png 02:20:52 they look nice man i love them 02:20:54 XD 02:21:18 Sweet :D 02:21:33 Same setup as the other two (Beveled and Flat) where you can pick your color. And it'll work whether or not Aero is enabled or supported on the current PC and regardless of its own color. 02:21:59 nice 02:22:32 It's not aero - as we wanted for 2.0 - but it's really close and I think it will mostly scratch that itch for people for now. 02:23:06 Plus themers will be able to use it with other stuff ( http://portableapps.com/temp/platform2/aerishrainbowtheme.png ) and it'll serve as a fallback for true Aero glass once we enable it. 02:24:18 JohnTHaller: i was woundering, will the new platform allow people to make there own categories besides the ones that it will have by default? 02:24:25 Of course. 02:24:35 But new apps will automatically be added to the existing 10. 02:24:49 cool :D that is fine with me 02:33:43 gPodder is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-05-16_-_gpodder_portable_2.15_released 02:35:25 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.12.105) has joined #portableapps 03:11:40 *** Bivor is now known as BivorBikel 03:11:58 *** BivorBikel is now known as Bivor 03:12:22 *** mrmcpowned has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03:16:20 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: OH NOES, I'VE FALLEN ASLEEP.) 03:17:09 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 03:18:36 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Client Quit) 03:22:24 *** Bivor has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:35:12 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.8.35) has joined #portableapps 03:35:28 *** Bivor has quit (Client Quit) 03:46:53 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.8.76) has joined #portableapps 03:47:08 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 03:47:30 *** Bivor has quit (Client Quit) 03:47:50 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.8.76) has joined #portableapps 03:48:15 *** Bivor has quit (Client Quit) 03:48:36 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.8.76) has joined #portableapps 03:48:43 *** Bivor has quit (Client Quit) 03:49:24 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.8.76) has joined #portableapps 03:49:40 *** Bivor has quit (Client Quit) 04:29:44 *** Jxx (~Tizzard@142.177.61.204) has joined #portableapps 04:29:49 *** Jxx has parted #portableapps (None) 04:32:10 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 04:53:29 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.8.3) has joined #portableapps 04:54:37 *** Bivor has quit (Client Quit) 05:14:30 *** superboyian (~nkembi@unaffiliated/superboyian) has joined #portableapps 05:15:38 *** Nkembi has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 05:15:44 *** superboyian is now known as Nkembi 05:21:44 well guys im off for the night see you all tomorow 05:21:56 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Quit: Never Drive Faster Than What Your Guardian Angel Can Fly! (Denise Wiedeman)) 05:45:22 *** Nkembi is now known as senior_nkembi 05:46:28 *** senior_nkembi is now known as Nkembi 08:17:48 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (opera@cs181095174.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 08:49:18 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 09:20:24 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.12.189) has joined #portableapps 09:20:58 *** Bivor has quit (Client Quit) 09:49:38 *** Twinkletoes (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 09:50:30 Battle for Wesnoth 1.8.6 is available. 09:59:40 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 10:17:08 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-91-2.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 10:19:55 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 10:41:44 *** AlleyKat has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10:55:08 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 11:24:17 *** AlleyKat is now known as Alley^Away 11:25:34 *** techfreak243 has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 11:58:19 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 13:09:59 *** agdurrette_ (~agdurrett@c-24-125-25-252.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 13:10:31 *** agdurrette_ is now known as D_D 13:10:41 *** D_D has quit (Changing host) 13:10:41 *** D_D (~agdurrett@unaffiliated/agdurrette) has joined #portableapps 13:10:41 D_D is agdurrette, most likely he is on minecraft. 13:56:15 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.12.189) has joined #portableapps 14:02:40 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14:28:56 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 14:32:23 *** Bivor has quit (Quit: Leaving) 14:33:21 *** Twinkletoes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.12/20101026201539]) 14:39:11 *** D_D has quit (Quit: Leaving) 14:50:10 *** agdurrette has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:53:44 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@c-71-63-3-78.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 14:53:44 agdurrette is awesome! nuff said. 14:54:07 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 15:02:30 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-4d0683b5.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 15:18:16 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 15:25:16 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 15:25:18 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 15:36:52 *** kAlug (~kalug@201-0-63-98.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 15:43:03 *** MaienM has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:44:52 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 15:55:51 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 16:02:33 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (opera@cs181095174.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 16:11:43 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 16:42:31 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 17:02:16 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: OH NOES, I'VE FALLEN ASLEEP.) 17:05:07 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@142.167.203.6) has joined #portableapps 17:05:07 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 17:05:07 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 17:05:11 ... 17:09:01 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-33-68-42.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 17:09:16 *** Rahooty (630d49e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.13.73.228) has joined #portableapps 17:09:31 Hello? 17:10:18 Do you want to ask something? 17:10:38 I think this portable app thing you guys have going is great, but I would like to make a sugestion.... 17:11:20 part of the reason we use the portable apps is that we have no admin rights, and in some cases cannot download .exe files 17:12:10 it would be nice id the option to download the apps in a 7zip format too, then we could use 7zip to expand the .exe and run it.... 17:15:07 there is no real difference between using compressed 7z archives made self extracting over our nsis installers to be honest, the NSIS based installers are more user friendly imfo 17:15:09 **imho 17:18:10 the problem is, many administrators do not allow executable files to be downloaded for malicious reasons, if the executable could be zipped, it could then be downloaed, then unzipped, then executed... 17:20:19 I think it's a better idea to discuss about the restrictions with the administrators instead of attempting to workaround them. 17:26:08 I disagree, opening the ability to download exe opens a network to danger, the idea of portable apps is to work around admin restrictions and run from a portable device without access to registry etc... downloading a zip and extracting an exe, and installing it on a thumb drive is no different than going home, downloading the exe, installing it on the thumb drive and taking it to work and runing it on the thumb drive? 17:27:12 if I were a system administrator I too would not allow downloading .exe files... 17:27:23 if you're not allowed to run a SFX, you probably won't be allowed to run an exe from the drive anyway? 17:27:47 ah, the download issue itself 17:28:23 I don't think you should change the ability to download the conveinent exe... but also allow it to be downloaded in the zip format. 17:29:49 I have downloaded the exe to my phone, renamed it to .old instead of .exe, emailed it to myself on my work computer, saved it, renamed it and executed it and installed it on my thumb drive on my work computer.... 17:30:11 "and run from a portable device without access to registry" <--portable apps CAN access the registry, write files, whatever on the PC 17:30:32 its not the execution once you get it, but a good admin will normally not allow downloads of exe from a non trusted site (blocked by router) 17:30:45 thats 1) working around the allowed limitations set by your admin, and 2) pretty lousy policy setup IMHO 17:34:52 I cannot run a portable app (any app) that accesses the registry, it requires admin privilages, and the only way it can be called portable when accessing the registry is if it cleans up the registry on exit... (in my opinion an app should never access the registry unless absolutly nessesary) and bad policy or not, If I could change it, I would not need to work off a thumb drive... 17:35:06 *** MoMule (~MoMule@68-188-82-154.static.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 17:35:12 *** MoMule has parted #portableapps (None) 17:39:45 Rahooty: Administrators can't prohibit registry access. The branch HKEY_CURRENT_USER is always writable. 17:40:54 I understand that, many programs access local machine and should not or don't need to making the program unable to be made portable... 17:42:28 PortableApps.com Launcher doesn't workaround admin privilege requirements. AFAIK, all non-portable counterparts of PA.c applications are able to run without admin rights. 17:42:44 portability is not the issue here, it is good policy for an administrator to limit downloading of exe extensions for security reasons. and this forces somone with admin rights to download a program that does not need admin rights to install... 17:43:16 I agree that offering zip or 7z files would be nice. 17:45:23 7zip is a portable (excelent) portable program I have installed on my thumb drive, if the portable apps on this site were also offered in 7zip format for download, I could download any portable app that becomes available on my thumb drive, use 7zip to unzip it, then execute it on my thumb drive and install it on the portable apps menu... 17:46:38 otherwise I have to go home, download it and install it on my thumb drive then go to work, plug my thumb drive in and use it the next day... 17:48:22 BTW, the winPenPack project distributes portable applications in the ZIP format. 17:50:39 I did not know about that project, but I love the format of the portable apps site, another button next to the download button that is there to download the same (exe) file in zip format would still make your site nice and user friendly... 17:51:34 *** MaienM has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17:51:56 *** MaienM_ (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 17:55:47 Thanks for your time and listening... love the site and hope this was the place to make a suggestion... 17:59:25 Rahooty: hang on 17:59:33 are you talking about having problems running installers? 17:59:38 (just browsed the scrollback) 17:59:44 because of permissions? 17:59:58 if you can save the file, you can unpack any of our installers with 7zip... 18:01:01 no sir, the installer works great, and would not want that to change, just take the installer (the portable app that is downloaded) and offer it (as an executable just like it is) but zipped.. 18:02:33 the problem is, most administrators dont allow downloads of exe files for security reasons... so if the exe file was 7zip'd (then it does not have a exe extension until unzipped) it could be downloaded, unzipped, executed and installed to the portable apps menu... 18:02:44 the problem is not the installer, but the exe download.... 18:02:50 ahh, that was the question 18:15:28 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:19:42 *** Rahooty has quit (Quit: Page closed) 19:01:31 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 19:10:28 *** Simeon (~simeon@dslb-094-218-243-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 19:10:35 hi all 19:16:37 *** spgSCOTT (~chatzilla@5add3aac.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 19:17:52 PA.c is very slow at the moment...timing out as well... 19:18:21 spgSCOTT: PortableApps.com is a high traffic site, it's bound to happen every now and then 19:18:50 yeah I know...just not used to it :D 19:19:02 hi Zach 19:20:03 hi Simeon 19:20:57 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-91-2.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:21:12 *** rcmaehl has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 19:43:11 *** spgSCOTT has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0/20110318052756]) 20:10:26 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:14:09 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: "Nothing is true, everything is permitted") 20:15:19 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 20:15:27 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 20:46:41 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a79-169-160-107.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 20:46:41 ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic... 21:12:29 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 21:17:31 *** pa_0005 (b2058fb2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.5.143.178) has joined #portableapps 21:18:37 hello. i have the following problem: every time i unplug and reinsert my usb stick, the apps dont work anymore. my stick is formatted in fat, 1 GB in size 21:36:16 *** pa_0005 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21:58:08 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: OH NOES, I'VE FALLEN ASLEEP.) 22:02:18 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@142.167.203.6) has joined #portableapps 22:02:18 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 22:02:18 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 22:02:19 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 22:12:23 *** rcmaehl has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:12:45 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 22:35:25 *** Tritonio (~TrT@150.140.233.232) has joined #portableapps 22:44:07 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 22:47:09 *** Thasmo has quit () 22:47:58 *** Alley^Away has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22:53:01 hy everyone! :) 22:53:21 ChrisMorgan: I running in to a bit of troble with PAL... I am using it for mY PAD-Kit and when I close it and try to rename or move the file I find that PAD-Kit is still running even after it has been closed for over one iminute or 60 minutes. Any ideas? 23:13:55 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Chrome folks are back to work) 23:17:36 *** kAlug (~kalug@201-0-63-98.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 23:20:29 DannyMuniz: ProgramExecutable? 23:22:01 when i close the program and it dose close the ini file that says appname.exe is still runnig but in reality is not 23:32:26 DannyMuniz: please post your launcher.ini 23:33:25 here it is http://tinypaste.com/fe137 23:34:20 is simple since the program is alredy portable all it needs to do is launche the program and nothing more 23:34:50 And you've checked the process list to ensure that PortableApps.comDevelopersKit.exe isn't still running? 23:34:57 And your launcher is not PortableApps.comDevelopersKit.exe? 23:35:16 That last is most likely 23:38:32 yes but the program fully closes but the ini file in the Data folder. http://tinypaste.com/fe137 23:39:13 that ini file in the data folder dose not go away 23:39:39 Both are called PortableApps.comDevelopersKit.exe. You shouldn't do that. 23:40:28 (BTW, you could use WaitForProgram=false with that config) 23:40:54 ok i can change that and see if it makes a diference, but this has not happend before. 23:50:13 *** kAlug has quit (Remote host closed the connection)