00:04:20 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:10:41 ok guys i did an update on InnoSetup http://portableapps.com/node/26576 00:15:47 well im out for now guys latter 00:15:54 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Quit: Never Drive Faster Than What Your Guardian Angel Can Fly! (Denise Wiedeman)) 00:40:48 *** AlleyKat is now known as Alley^Away 00:41:41 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:15:09 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01:17:04 *** kAlug (~kalug@2001:0:53aa:64c:34e6:3247:42ed:d5da) has joined #portableapps 01:18:37 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:25:55 *** JAWS (~chatzilla@adsl-69-221-175-167.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) has joined #portableapps 01:26:41 help! 01:26:41 JAWS: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 01:27:29 Hi JAWS, how can we help you? 01:27:50 does assaultcube portable support the mod opening method of using custom .bats? 01:34:30 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01:34:33 JAWS: I don't use AssaultCube Portable, so I can't answer you. You can try to do it first and come back here if it doesn't work. 01:35:38 i have tried, i can't get it to work 01:35:42 JAWS: Wait, I think I understood your question: does those .bat files call AssaultCube with some command-line parameters? 01:36:21 yes, sry i tried to word it better 01:38:05 I've read AC's forum about the .bats and did what it said but it never worked 01:39:12 *** Alley^Away has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01:39:40 *** kAlug1 (~kalug@2001:0:53aa:64c:34e6:3247:42ed:d5da) has joined #portableapps 01:39:51 JAWS: Can you paste one of these .bat files to e.g. http://pzt.me? 01:40:16 *** kAlug1 is now known as kAlug_ 01:40:57 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01:42:30 i'd rather not, never been there before 01:44:20 It's a pastebin, so you can use http://pastebin.com/ or anything on the list at https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Comparison_of_pastebins instead. 01:46:25 ya, id rather not, thanks for the help any way, sorry i have to go 01:46:36 and sorry if i wasted your time 01:46:40 *** JAWS has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110413222027]) 01:49:26 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@142.167.223.223) has joined #portableapps 01:49:26 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Client Quit) 01:49:28 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 02:05:28 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 02:08:54 *** kAlug_ has quit (*.net *.split) 02:30:24 *** mrmcpowned has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:33:35 *** mrmcpowned (~meh@unaffiliated/sh-chris) has joined #portableapps 03:40:26 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.11.103.13) has joined #portableapps 04:03:05 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 04:44:45 *** kAlug|Away has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:56:34 *** mrmcpowned has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05:09:24 *** Nkembi has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:09:39 *** Nkembi (~nkembi@5ad61d3c.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 05:09:39 *** Nkembi has quit (Changing host) 05:09:39 *** Nkembi (~nkembi@unaffiliated/superboyian) has joined #portableapps 05:27:25 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 07:03:24 *** arinlares (~arin@cpe-75-85-83-187.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 07:03:53 *** arinlares has parted #portableapps (None) 07:06:10 *** arinlares (~arin@cpe-75-85-83-187.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 07:06:30 *** arinlares has parted #portableapps (None) 07:53:14 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 08:12:24 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~chatzilla@cs181248068.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 08:28:13 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 10:00:41 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: .) 10:24:29 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 10:32:50 *** Tritonio (~TrT@193.92.240.9.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) has joined #portableapps 10:37:29 *** Tritonio has quit (Client Quit) 10:55:40 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@h66n1fls31o286.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 11:07:34 *** AlleyKat has quit (Quit: Work- or sleeptime. 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Or, it's open source, maybe you can get past that requirement. 15:12:12 Mostly, an application I develop. THat parts fine. But the updater I'm using requires a DLL to be registered. 15:12:58 But thats the only problem. Otherwise, there a no registry settings, and everything runs with relative paths to the main directory of the program 15:13:36 the updater would be left alone 15:13:59 But it is needed....the updater is open source, if you think you can fix it. 15:14:19 why is it needed? 15:14:34 Becuase I often make small updates that are required? 15:15:07 ah. 15:15:31 Here's the updater... http://zupdate.sourceforge.net/ its Visual Basic. 15:16:29 the app your talking about is yours right? 15:17:03 Z-Updater is not. The rest of the application, Impressive Title, is. 15:17:28 can you give me a link to it? 15:17:38 http://flametail.webege.com/it/ 15:18:56 what is it what does it do? 15:20:02 Its a game. 15:20:12 also take a look at this http://portableapps.com/development 15:20:32 Inspired by "The Lion King"...it's been around for years, but I've recently taken full control. 15:20:52 this is what most of the apps use to be made portable http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_launcher 15:21:05 Yes, I am aware of that. I thought the DLL might be an issue. 15:21:26 It needs to be registered or else updater doenst work. 15:21:49 i think the updater will have to be omitted 15:22:31 So nothing can be done about it? NSIS cannot register it, then unregister it? 15:22:46 I think NSIS is what the portable apps luancher is made of... 15:22:48 It might but i dont know 15:23:04 yes it is 15:24:48 I would ask on the fourms 15:27:23 firefox portable has a updater but it is not used 15:36:10 *** pa_0550 (59cc9ac2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.204.154.194) has joined #portableapps 15:38:29 *** pa_0550 has quit (Client Quit) 15:44:36 *** amdzero (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 15:49:31 *** Flametail has quit (Quit: Page closed) 15:53:12 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.101.136.254) has joined #portableapps 16:00:48 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16:19:52 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@h66n1fls31o286.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 16:21:41 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~chatzilla@cs181248068.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 16:28:31 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-33-68-72.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 16:29:19 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:29:37 Hey ho! Does anybody know when FFX 5 portable will be released? Thanks! 16:29:37 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-4d06f176.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 16:35:25 ZachThibeau, GizmoBot, any idea? Thanks! 16:35:47 Thasmo: you can upgrade through your current FX4 installation 16:35:57 the "official" release will be done when it's done. We don't know. 16:37:21 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: OH NOES, I'VE FALLEN ASLEEP.) 16:54:44 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:56:44 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-5f77d0ba.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 17:04:15 *** rainroom69 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 17:10:10 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 18:28:07 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07C3FB.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 18:41:27 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19:03:01 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: .) 19:22:18 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:22:18 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Changing host) 19:22:18 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 19:52:12 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Guest8342 19:52:18 *** Venusaur (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 19:54:20 *** Guest8342 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:55:22 well summer is officialy here 20:04:20 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 20:09:20 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 20:20:53 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli) 20:30:39 *** Simeon (~simeon@dslb-094-218-252-071.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 20:35:53 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 20:37:14 *** mrmcpowned (~meh@unaffiliated/sh-chris) has joined #portableapps 20:38:19 *** Simeon (~simeon@dslb-094-218-252-071.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 20:38:25 hi all 20:38:45 hey Simeon! :") 20:39:53 hi Danny 20:45:02 *** pa_8544 (48174409@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.23.68.9) has joined #portableapps 20:45:11 Hello all. 20:45:31 Im using portableappslauncher to make a launcher for my app... 20:45:40 yes 20:45:45 However, i'd like to add some custom code...where can I do this? 20:46:02 http://portableapps.com/node/28257#comment-178628 20:47:10 *** Venusaur is now known as Suiseiseki 20:48:30 The launcher manual (http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/) has a part about custom code. In short, you put a file Custom.nsh in the Other\Source directory of a package and put the custom code inside that file. 20:48:51 ok. 20:49:11 I am not sure about the place of the file but I think that where it should go. 20:49:30 and also on that thread, I;m asked to get a plugin....the link leads to a mecurial page but no download :( 20:51:33 click on the link named "raw". 20:51:55 its badly explained. Had to try and figure that out myself :) 20:55:15 and...the custom code doesnt work. 20:56:24 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a81-84-159-241.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 20:56:24 ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic... 20:56:39 maybe the path wasnt right. Whats the version of the laucher generator you use? 20:56:49 Latest..just downloaded today 20:57:06 In version 2.1 it has to be App\AppInfo\Launcher\Custom.nsh so I gave you the wrong location. 20:58:27 ok. that worked. 20:58:28 *** Torc_ (4a800103@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.128.1.3) has joined #portableapps 20:58:34 cool 20:58:38 hi Torc_ 20:58:43 Afternoon everyone 20:58:53 Now, after I package this in an installer, what is the proper proccess to put it up? 20:59:10 I have a question, can portable apps work with windows phones? 20:59:53 I've tried. Windows Mobile 5 and 6 didint let me. 21:00:00 Not sure about there new 7. 21:00:01 @Torc_: no. They need a windows PC operating system or wine on unix/linux. 21:00:19 Ok, was hoping it was possible 21:00:20 windows =/= windows mobile 21:00:24 *** amdzero (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 21:01:17 @pa_8544: after you built the launcher, you can package it using the installer (http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_installer) 21:01:18 windows != windows mobile. But i hear they are working on it. 21:01:37 yes. from windows 8 on everything might be different 21:02:50 *** Torc_ has quit (Client Quit) 21:03:01 Installer is finished building. 21:03:49 cool 21:05:01 *** pa_1651 (4fd793e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.215.147.226) has joined #portableapps 21:05:07 Now what? Do you guys mind if I pass it around in this irc for a test? I doubt you guys have ever installed this before, which makes the perfect situation. 21:05:54 *** pa_1651 has quit (Client Quit) 21:07:11 pa_8544: you should make a post in the forum in the beta category 21:16:03 http://portableapps.com/node/28262 21:16:05 Done 21:16:11 yes. Thats probably the vest way. and as you are the dev of the app, there wont be any problems license-wise :) 21:16:35 its huge! 21:17:28 got any screenshots? 21:17:58 you should probably state the license in the beta post. people will be asking about it. 21:18:38 Why is it named revision 1? (I do ask a lot of questions) 21:19:08 it should be Development test 1 21:23:04 License: I'm going to work with KovuLKD on a license, i'm not sure what to use or, hell, how to even write one. I ain't a lawyer. 21:24:05 you can use the GPL license 21:24:15 Isnt GPL for open source? 21:24:23 yes 21:24:29 Mines freeware. 21:24:54 I'd have a look at a couple freeware licenses and then adapt one you like,. 21:27:45 help.html has a typo (gamepackaged and catchy tagline) and you should remove the line about this software being open source :) 21:27:45 Simeon: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 21:29:53 Does it have any settings which should be saved into tha /Data folder? 21:32:37 It doesnt start. Does it need anything like c++ files or the like? 21:35:06 Maybe, I;m not sure. 21:35:35 If it does I guess I can't portablize it. 21:35:43 :-( 21:36:06 does the normal installer install anything else ? 21:36:29 Hrmm... vcredistx86 21:36:39 I think thats C++ runtimes... 21:36:43 yep 21:36:52 those need to be in the /appIT folder 21:36:55 app/IT 21:37:06 is it the latest version? 21:37:11 do they? they dont need to be installed? 21:37:15 no. 21:37:39 it uses the 2008 C++ runtimes I believe 21:37:47 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=9B2DA534-3E03-4391-8A4D-074B9F2BC1BF&displaylang=en 21:37:50 normally they do need to be installed but we cant install them for a portable app as it might be run on a PC with limited rights where we cant install anything 21:38:23 So if they need to be installed.....im confused here. 21:39:36 for a non portable install they need to be installed. 21:39:50 The launcher takes care of that 21:40:18 Well, feel free to share your wisdom, and dont install the runtimes, I obviously need proper testers. 21:40:29 but for a portable install they can not be installed because the user might not have the rights for it. 21:40:43 so we need to package it with the right files. 21:41:11 let me have a look 21:51:49 Is vcredistx86 included with the normal install? 21:51:54 yes 21:53:39 mine didnt. and it told me to install d3dx937.dll. 21:53:57 d3ddx937.dll is directx 21:54:13 so it needs that too 21:54:48 Dont directx dlls need to be registered? 21:54:56 I fear so. 21:55:27 Well, thats the end of this idea. Although this usually uses OpenGL. 21:55:40 Dunno why it defualted to Directx 21:55:50 maybe it works if OpenGL is included. 21:56:06 I have to go now. Hope I could help you a bit. 21:57:08 Well, you helped.. 21:57:19 Now more errors and I dunno how to fix them :( 21:57:37 ask in the forums is all I can say now. 21:57:40 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 21:58:18 Did anyone else download 21:58:43 I have a probable fix that I cant try well, you have the clean system, not me. 21:59:35 in App/IT find Plugins.cfg and put a # in front of Plugin=RenderSystem_Direct3D9 22:01:15 ahh, well. I gotta run to. BBL 22:01:18 *** pa_8544 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:20:35 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 22:24:43 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 22:31:40 ChrisMorgan: I'm fixing some errors in the PAL's manual. How much of this note I should keep? http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/advanced/debug/#debug-nsh 22:32:46 The "Note: " is the only bit which is out of date. 22:35:07 Exactly. The "utility which will do all that the Generator does and more" is the PADT, right? I will change the text to mention it. 22:37:13 Don't yet. 22:38:25 *** amdzero_ (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 22:39:34 OK. I just dropped the first sentence. 22:41:18 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22:46:12 oh man i feal sorry for John, firefox 5 is out 22:53:13 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 22:54:54 *** JAWS (~chatzilla@adsl-69-221-168-225.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) has joined #portableapps 22:55:03 help! 22:55:03 JAWS: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 22:56:07 what is the HTML/Rce.Gen that is found by Avira in my PA.c backup .zips? 22:57:43 JAWS: what are the name of the files? 22:58:01 what do you mean? 22:59:37 In what files inside the .zips does Avira found the malware? 23:02:24 is it finding something within ClamWin that it doesn't like 23:03:34 i think its this... ortableApps/ClamWinPortable/Data/db/clamav-6d4bec99b5d91707ad4764c9be701eb3.00000f88.clamtmp/clamav-665dc5f582c0b87c0753440686d2b491.00000f88.clamtmp/daily.ndb 23:03:35 [DETECTION] Contains recognition pattern of the HTML/Rce.Gen HTML script virus 23:07:18 It's ClamAV database... so it's certain it will contain virus samples. 23:08:01 Antivirus software providers finding problems with one another is quite common for this reason. 23:08:39 Though not as common as it used to be - they normally do it in a way which makes it less likely to be picked up by others now, I believe. 23:09:52 OK thank you 23:10:14 bye. thx again 23:10:20 *** JAWS has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110413222027]) 23:16:34 kAlug: thanks for doing that PAL manual update, saved me from doing it :-) 23:18:30 *** AlleyKat is now known as Alley^Away 23:22:36 ok il will be taking a stab at making this program portable http://synfig.org/ 23:22:56 I hope that everythingworks well with the making of it 23:24:33 ChrisMorgan: (not sure of the correct English expression here). Anyway, are you already working on %PAL:LastAppDir%? If not, I have some free hours to do it. 23:30:00 In fact I have too much free time. 23:36:21 I'm not sure if I want it done quite that way. 23:37:24 What I have noted down in my TODO list is [SaveLastValue] to save arbitrary values - e.g. ``PAL:LastDataDir=%PAL:DataDir%``, ``LastDocuments=%PAL:Documents%`` 23:39:32 I'm not sure if PAL:LastAppDir/PAL:LastDataDir should be done automatically or not - make all apps a smidgeon slower again (some time I think we may need to optimise) or tell people to put in those two lines if they want one of them? 23:41:29 Your approach seems to be better, however I'd use something like [PersistentData]. A custom code counterpart like ${WritePersistentData} would also be useful. 23:43:29 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@142.167.144.156) has joined #portableapps 23:43:29 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 23:43:29 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 23:43:31 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 23:43:38 ... 23:45:32 kAlug: one other one that I need to add for PAL 2.2 is %PAL:AppID%=$AppID. Just a simple ${SetEnvironmentVariable} PAL:AppID $AppID in Segments\Core.nsh plus docs and release notes. Feel like doing that? 23:46:35 Seems a bit silly the way there's currently no AppID exposed so things like the "writing to %PAL:DataDir%\settings\$AppIDSettings.ini" couldn't be done with a variable for $AppID. 23:48:51 ChrisMorgan: WorkInProgress... 23:49:58 By the way, some apps won't use %PAL:Last*Dir% at all, so just let the dev specify them. 23:50:54 And our PAF copy needs to be updated. I'll start with it. 23:51:41 I didn't update the languages after getting John to correct them all. 23:52:34 Concerning performance, with the help of PADT at some point I'm considering going back to compile-time launcher configuration, which would increase performance quite significantly. 23:56:28 It'd nice if the PAF page was versioned.