00:06:02 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 00:26:45 *** ZachThibeau (~zachthibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 00:26:45 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 00:35:31 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 00:47:55 *** flyback (~whatthe@c-98-219-134-156.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 00:48:42 *** ZachThibeau (~zachthibe@142.167.204.119) has joined #portableapps 00:48:42 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 00:48:43 *** ZachThibeau (~zachthibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 00:48:43 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 02:14:09 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 03:07:02 *** flyback has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 03:29:32 kAlug: are you avelable? 03:30:28 *** matborden (~matborden@ip68-226-13-113.ga.at.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 03:31:05 DannyMuniz: Yep. 03:31:49 ok can you gdo a quick check on the mods i did on FRDPortable I wil upload in a min 03:32:01 do* 03:45:19 brb have to walk the dog 03:55:45 *** Guest11218 has quit (Quit: *POOF*) 04:01:19 ok im back 04:04:08 kAlug: I used pdfsamPortable as an example to improve this one 04:05:13 DannyMuniz: I've found a couple errors. To start: https://pzt.me/4bfv 04:06:21 Also remainings of the Installer in Other\Source and some mistakes in FRDPortable.ini. 04:06:40 ok 04:07:51 ah you used PA.cDTK i see, i did not use that i forget about it all the time 04:07:58 ok ill fix that 04:11:54 DannyMuniz: Hold on. I'm making some changes on it. 04:11:55 ok they are fixed! ") 04:11:59 ok 04:13:13 There's also a new situation: FRD stores the language and the country separately. PAL is not designed to handle this. 04:13:37 hmm... so how do we deal with that? 04:17:00 By now, using custom code. 04:18:34 that sucks man i have no idea where to start on that... 04:33:13 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: rcmaehl) 05:08:37 DannyMuniz: it seems to store downloads in \Documents\Downloads, but that doesn't exist. 05:08:57 IIRC uTorrent uses %PAL:DataDir%\downloads 05:10:11 I maid it to put it there to make a bit faster to get to but when ever you start the program for the first time you have to a set a default folder 05:11:45 Weird... it didn't asked me. 05:12:29 is the default forder field blank when you add a new link? 05:13:08 just click add link and you will see the field of the download folder directory 05:13:11 Yep. 05:13:59 ok then now you can set your oun directory, but because i made it have a pre derectory it ask to make the folder 05:15:30 it could be left blank but, but if not then is up to the user if they want to create the folder in the Documents directory or not 05:16:18 that is also why i added pal last drive command 05:20:28 plus it is easy to get to the download folder in the documents section that it is in PortableApps/FRDPortable/Datat/Data. Just click on Documents in the Platform and one more dobble click and you are in 05:27:09 DannyMuniz: another thing is that it stores paths normally, not in Java-style. 05:27:39 I'm going to upload my version... it'll take ~15mins. 05:27:59 damn that is long but ill wait for it 05:28:01 XD 05:28:27 ill be here watchin anime 05:38:39 10 mins... I'm going to watch a bit of "Learn advanced math with Charlie Eppes"... aka Numb3rs. 05:39:52 LMAO 05:40:04 i love that show 05:40:59 they wont give gart show till Tuesday at 4 am 05:41:59 *** matborden has quit (Quit: matborden) 05:53:12 DannyMuniz: http://kalug.users.sourceforge.net/temp/FRDPortable_0.85.0_Development_Test_3.paf.exe 05:55:20 downloading now 06:02:13 kAlug: I see that you removed the reg key. FRD dose use it and it will store it 06:08:23 Hmm. It's not created here, nor %AppData%\Vity. 06:08:42 ok then that is good :) 06:08:45 What OS are you using? Win7? 06:08:56 nah im using Vista 06:09:18 I need me a new computer for sure... 06:29:04 man i needs to learn how to make custome code if i am going to keep making portableapps... 06:55:10 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs181102150.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 06:59:43 Somehow my forum signature was messed up... again. 07:03:22 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 07:09:40 maby you got hacked?... 07:13:17 no 07:13:25 well, what's your password? 07:13:41 signatures will get messed up if they are to long 07:13:59 some random rules . . . . i don't realy know how 07:14:59 *** pa_6914 (7c7dc0a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.125.192.167) has joined #portableapps 07:15:34 i want to the terminal number which i gave during installation of s/w 07:15:42 how can i know tht?? 07:15:47 ? 07:15:56 what is s/w? 07:16:03 software 07:16:20 i'm sorry but I don't understand your question 07:16:27 which software? 07:16:47 i m from ims center surat...we have installed software named simcat2 07:17:37 and nw we r not getting how to know the terminal id which we entered during installation 07:18:04 can u help in this?? 07:18:28 probably not . . . . we just provide support for applications on portableapps.com/apps 07:18:35 I don't recognize the name 07:19:14 its running on portableapps.com anyways 07:19:16 thnx 07:19:19 ? 07:20:25 *** pa_6914 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 08:47:59 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 09:20:31 *** matborden (~matborden@ip68-226-13-113.ga.at.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 09:59:28 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 10:35:16 *** Umino (4fd1ab6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.209.171.108) has joined #portableapps 10:35:20 hi 10:36:26 anyone there ? 10:36:53 how can i help you? 10:38:56 i want to make a game portable using the portableapps launcher 10:39:28 ok first is the game Opensource or freeware? 10:39:52 neither of them ... and i don't plan to release it publicly ... 10:39:59 ok 10:40:32 it's just for me to stop it from saving files in directories i don't want it to ... 10:41:28 ok then you would have to use directory move 10:41:54 it bothers me that games spread their files (save file for example) all over windows directories like C:\users\..... 10:42:52 i have all my programms and stuff on a seperate partition that ... in case windows breaks down i can simply format the C: partition and reinstall 10:43:07 ok 10:43:19 so i thought it might be a good idea to use that launcher :-) 10:43:29 directory move ... 10:44:37 here it is http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/ref/launcher.ini/filesystem/ 10:46:22 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 10:47:21 ok .. it says [directory]=[target location] ... that means if the file would be saved to user\public\Documents\ that is the [directory] ... 10:47:38 did i get that right ? 10:47:42 yes 10:47:47 Umino: Did you download NSISUnicode, PAL needs it 10:48:05 yes 10:48:43 if it is in the user profile the you will need something like this [DirectoriesMove] 10:48:43 filename=%UserProfile%\filename 10:49:05 hey ChrisMorgan! 10:49:14 There, online again. Came to India last Friday and discovered when we got here that the tree which had been gradually falling over more and leaning against the ADSL line (with the council doing nothing about it although we told them about nine months ago) blew over in a storm a couple of weeks ago, taking the line with it. 10:49:55 Oh God we have spammers already 10:50:11 so .. first haev to tell i tell the launcher the name of the file ... 10:50:57 oops ... misstyped it ... 10:51:03 np 10:51:50 first ... tell the launcher the name and location of the file ... for example "user\public\Documents\mygame.sav" 10:53:09 and then where to save it instead ... like "MyGamePortable\data\mygame.sav" 10:53:40 *** matborden has quit (Quit: matborden) 10:54:17 Umino: what's the *full* path for mygame.sav when on the host machine? 10:54:37 c:\user\public\Documents\ 10:55:08 C:\Users\Public\Documents\mygame.sav? 10:55:17 jep 10:56:12 * ChrisMorgan tries to remember whether on Vista "Public" is "all users" or a username 10:56:19 Vista/7 10:56:27 Umino: CrisMorgan is the developer of PAL and he will help you with the rest of this. I am off to bed now Meds are kicking in. good night all 10:57:40 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Quit: Never Drive Faster Than What Your Guardian Angel Can Fly! (Denise Wiedeman)) 10:58:23 ok .. i'm on win7 and there are 3 folders in /user/ ... public, default and my own username 10:59:01 public is the one that all users of this machine would have access to 10:59:03 Yep, so it is the all users documents that you need. 10:59:42 Umino: there's no variable for that directory, so you'll need a bit of custom code: http://portableapps.com/node/28235#comment-178508 11:00:06 i think so ... default is just a template where new user profiles are created from if i got that right 11:00:20 Then have [FilesMove]:mygame.sav=%ALLUSERSDOCUMENTS% 11:02:49 ok ... should i paste this code on the bottom to the launcher.ini file? 11:03:48 Which? The INI code or the Custom.nsh code? 11:03:52 an ... no ... its in App\AppInfo\Launcher\Custom.nsh 11:05:00 simply copy & paste or do i need to modify the code ? 11:06:57 That code as it stands will make the ALLUSERSDOCUMENTS environment variable available which is what you want 11:08:31 ok ... and then just directoriesmove %ALLUSERSDOCUMENTS%=/Data/ 11:09:35 or Data=%ALLUSERSDOCUMENTS% 11:09:38 ?? 11:10:16 No, FilesMove, as I said. 11:11:04 You can't use DirectoriesMove for part of a directory. You've got to use [FilesMove]. 11:12:04 [FilesMove] data\mygame.sav=%ALLUSERSDOCUMENTS%\mygame.sav ?? 11:12:43 NO. What I said. Read what I said. 11:15:34 oh ... sorry ... [FilesMove]:mygame.sav=%ALLUSERSDOCUMENTS% - it will go into the data folder by itself i guess ... 11:20:48 ok ... now the launcher.ini looks like this: [Launch] ProgramExecutable=MyGame\bin\game.exe [FilesMove] mygame.sav=%ALLUSERSDOCUMENTS% 11:21:44 is that ok ? 11:21:45 That will be enough to get it working if it's only that one file which you need to take care of. 11:22:50 i let the game run in a sandbox to track down wich files and registry keys are altered / accessed 11:25:18 and that was the only file outside of its game folder that came up in the log files 11:26:53 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs181105044.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 11:33:45 thanks for the help ... i will try it later on ... and thanks for PAL - i was looking for something like that for a long time ... since more and more programms don't keep their files to themself anymore ... and that way it keeps the registry clean as well ... 11:34:53 see you later ... 11:35:07 Bye. Hope it all works out well for you. 11:40:09 we'll see ... and sorry for the stupid questions .. command line stuff and config files sometimes get me confused easily ... 11:41:01 ;-) 11:41:07 *** Umino has quit (Quit: Page closed) 12:14:42 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 12:40:11 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 13:31:47 *** Umino (4fd1ab6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.209.171.108) has joined #portableapps 13:32:31 hi ... 13:32:36 ....again 13:34:52 *** pa_9122 (dc851249@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.133.18.73) has joined #portableapps 13:36:29 *** pa_9122 has quit (Client Quit) 13:45:09 *** Umino has quit (Quit: Page closed) 13:52:46 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 13:59:58 *** ChrisMorgan1 (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 14:03:12 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 14:08:02 *** ChrisMorgan1 is now known as ChrisMorgan 14:30:05 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Quit) 14:39:18 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 14:59:55 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 15:13:48 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 15:23:25 *** kaeos (~Miranda@90.164.135.241) has joined #portableapps 15:45:40 *** amdzero has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:03:01 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07DCC4.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 16:07:17 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 16:07:30 *** kaeos has quit (Quit: kaeos) 16:08:15 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 16:14:52 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs181105044.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 16:40:51 *** Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:41:00 *** Gizmokid2005 (~Gizmokid2@vps2.gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 16:41:02 Gizmokid2005 is the developer of KVIrc Portable: http://g2k5.us/4j and Songbird Portable: http://g2k5.us/4k 16:59:51 *** jason404 (~jason404@unaffiliated/jason404) has joined #portableapps 17:03:25 I am trying to use the launcher generator, I have got stuck right at the beginning 17:03:38 Creat Launcher For: 17:03:53 what am I supposed to navigate to here? 17:04:06 the .exe file of the prograh? 17:04:21 jason404: The directory containing App\, Other\, etc. 17:04:41 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-32-70-107.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 17:04:44 kAlug: thanks. thanks for your reply earlier, btw 17:05:50 You're welcome. 17:21:04 *** jason404 is now known as jason404|OFF 17:24:16 *** jason404|OFF is now known as jason404 17:27:50 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17:28:37 well that was easy 17:29:48 do splash screens need to be jpegs? I don't think that is the best format for graphics 17:33:09 jason404: yes, no other format supported at present. 17:33:19 Use the DT splash screen, as provided. 17:33:28 oh, okay. thanks 17:33:46 png would be better 17:37:55 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17:38:32 when I launched mIRC using the launcher I just generated, Windows asked if I wanted to make an exception in the firewall again. I winder why that happened, as the executable it was referring to was still the same mirc.exe which was already allowed. I'm wondering if it is now running in an elevated state. How would I check? 17:42:21 task manager says that mirc.exe is running from a directory which does not exist anymore (as it was renamed). Strange 17:43:03 *** jason404 is now known as jason404|OFF 17:46:56 *** jason404|OFF is now known as jason404 17:47:14 *** SrgSiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 17:52:10 *** Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:52:10 *** SergentSiler has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:52:10 *** GizmoBot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:52:27 jason404: well, there is your answer...the windows firewall knows a program through its path and filename (and i think hash too, but that is irrelevant) 17:52:30 *** Gizmokid2005 (~Gizmokid2@vps2.gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 17:52:43 that means if you move your mIRC.exe to another location, windows firewall will ask you again 17:52:51 *** flyback (~whatthe@c-98-219-134-156.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 17:52:54 ah okay. 17:53:08 that settles that matter 17:53:31 but task manager still things mirc.exe is running from the old location and says that it cannot find it 17:53:45 when i try right-click properties 17:54:51 no such problem with process explorer. I guess it is some sort of registry virtualisation thing going on 17:56:10 does procxp show the file's properties when you right-click the process? or just some general infos collected by procxp instead? 17:57:24 sar3th: it looks like I have the full information, including the command line switch which I instructed the launcher to use, which is pretty cool 17:58:01 which means it's /not/ showing the file's properties, which is what taskmgr tries to do :) 17:58:37 oh, I see what you meant now 18:00:45 I'm going to reboot to see if that sorts this wierdness out 18:01:19 *** jason404 is now known as jason404|OFF 18:03:45 *** SrgSiler is now known as SergentSiler 18:04:27 *** jason404|OFF is now known as jason404 18:05:29 nice 18:11:02 I have just noticed that the launcher is still running, when it was not suposed to 18:17:57 if I add WaitForProgram=false to the launcher.ini file, would I also need to rebuild the launcher? 18:19:41 it is also allowing a second instance of the program, which is one of the reasons I wanted to use a launcher in the first place 18:20:31 I already had WaitForOtherInstances=true, which i thought was the entry which prevents other instances 18:20:36 i guess you have to rebuild the launcher, yes 18:20:43 jason404: No rebuild is required in this case. 18:21:23 jason404: check documentation on that parameter, i am not sure what exactly it does 18:21:42 And try SinglePortableAppInstance=true; WaitFor* are true by default. 18:22:03 ic 18:22:23 actually, that is already there 18:23:06 I'll try starting again. it's a bit annoying that it is actually mirc that I am dealing with here. 18:23:35 It will prevent the portable version from running, but there's no way to tell the installed version to stop. 18:23:42 *** jason404 is now known as jason404|OFF 18:23:53 *** jason404|OFF is now known as jason404 18:25:19 there is no local version involved here 18:25:40 installed version, in this case, anyway 18:26:00 ok, the launcher exits now 18:26:12 Are you using WaitForProgram=false? 18:26:19 yes 18:26:27 I just added it 18:26:57 and it is not allowing a second instance. great! 18:29:44 Can you guys check out https://pzt.me/7twa and tell me if it's understandable? 18:29:47 It's formatted in ReST (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/ReST) 18:30:14 And is going to be part of the Launcher's manual. 18:32:11 it seems readable to me, but I am not sure what sort of problems you are loking out for 18:35:54 English is not my native language, so I'm looking for grammar/spelling errors; furthermore, I want to make sure you understand it the same way as me. 18:36:35 seems fine to me 18:37:06 I find the documentation which is already there quite easy to understand, but I think the way it is organised is terrible 18:38:19 oh, all data is in arbitrary, should be, all data are in arbitrary 18:38:50 data is sort of a plural, as it is a collective noun 18:39:05 oh no, I'm wrong 18:39:07 ignore me 18:39:09 lol 18:39:50 I'm having brain problems 18:40:12 *** zachthibeau (~zachthibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 18:42:59 would making a launch and exit launcher which chooses between x86 and x64 .exex, depending on OS, be quite easy to make, or should I leave it till later, when I am more experienced with making launchers? 18:43:23 I cannot find any information on this 18:44:07 if PAL supports it, it can probably be done relatively easily 18:44:07 *** zachthibeau is now known as ZachThibeau 18:44:38 ic 18:44:50 You can refer to 7-Zip Portable source code. It has that feature. 18:45:20 TPFC-SYSTEM: okay thanks. would source code in this case just be the .ini text files? 18:45:31 jason404: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/topics/64-bit/#bit and http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/ref/launcher.ini/launch/#std:ini-key-[Launch]:ProgramExecutable64 18:46:00 jason404: I think so, but I'm not sure. 18:46:22 kAlug, TPFC-SYSTEM: thanks 18:49:14 *** rcmaehl has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 18:52:54 Is anyone else going to review that docs? 19:01:01 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: Bye! :)) 19:07:31 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:09:19 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 19:10:00 *** flyback has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 19:21:44 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 20:36:11 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 20:56:43 *** Thasmo has quit () 21:07:40 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a81-84-159-241.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 21:26:33 *** deppjones (~Miranda@xdsl-78-34-140-199.netcologne.de) has joined #portableapps 21:38:26 *** deppjones has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! 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