00:24:42 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 00:28:44 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@142.167.206.212) has joined #portableapps 00:28:44 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 00:28:44 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 00:28:44 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 00:28:49 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 01:23:50 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 01:29:14 *** pa_0799 (45fa71bc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.250.113.188) has joined #portableapps 01:30:52 help with the PortableApps.com Platform 2.0. How can you create and display custom folders? 01:30:53 pa_0799: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 01:36:38 pa_0799: It's not supported yet. 01:37:12 Oh, wait, it is. 01:40:04 You mean folders in the menu itself, right? Like in http://portableapps.com/files/forumimages/platform2pr1/MenuCategoriesAll.png ? 01:41:35 yes - I thought you could have custom folders?!? 01:42:40 Customizable App Organization With Automatic and Custom Folders 01:42:44 http://portableapps.com/news/2011-07-19_-_portableapps.com_platform_2.0_pre-release_1_released 01:44:14 I just figured it out. 01:47:11 Click Options and select Show All with Categories. 02:04:50 thanks 02:07:13 *** pa_0799 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 02:20:37 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-156-229.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 02:20:43 *** rouilj1 has parted #portableapps (None) 02:38:13 *** kAlug_ (~kalug@187.57.0.51) has joined #portableapps 02:39:58 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02:41:18 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:41:28 hola 02:42:44 howdy JohnTHaller 02:43:26 How goes it? 02:49:11 Things are... buggy. 02:49:43 Did you got my email? 02:53:14 don't rrecall offhand. busy few days. on a flight right now fixing platform bugs 02:54:04 Oh wait, uTorrent and PAT right? Yes I did, but I haven't gotten to check it out yet 02:55:54 Bug progress: all starred bugs have been fixed in the internal build: http://portableapps.com/node/28593 02:56:17 Now we can also say that 2.0 was coded at 30,000 ft 03:00:24 JohnTHaller: where are the submenus (Manage Apps, Help) icons from? 03:01:11 There isn't enough transparent pixels: http://i.imgur.com/9SARi.jpg 03:02:10 I need to manually fix them. I forgot how bad non-Aero Windows handles just about everything 03:02:23 THey're converted PNGs. I'll need to hand edit them. 03:03:24 I can try to help you if you tell me where they are. 03:03:47 They're nowhere. They only exist embedded in the EXE 03:06:42 I was working on it already, I just added it to the known bugs list to ensure we don't miss it. 03:13:19 Funny. "All roads lead to Rome". All source links lead to... FileZilla Portable 03:14:50 It's an old copy and paste error. Originally, all those links were broken and just went to our download page. Then SF 'fixed' them and they all go to FileZilla. 03:33:34 Yes. Just figured out the issue with Thai, Vietnamese, etc not showing properly in updater/app directory 03:46:16 *** JAWS (~chatzilla@adsl-99-164-49-189.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 03:47:23 hi, this probably isn't the place to ask this but, why are virtualDubs saved .avi so much larger than the original file? 03:47:51 Probably because it's using a different codec or compression than the original. 03:49:39 Possibly no compression at all. Use *MPlayer or VLC to check. 03:51:53 oh, and GizmoBot, even though i believe you are a bot, i just wanted to make a .vbs to hide/unhide hidden files into an .exe. I couldnt make something into malware to save my life! 03:53:13 can VLC save? 03:54:00 i want to put different audio to a video and did it in VirtualDub but the file is huge 03:55:15 Yes, VLC can convert files. 03:55:36 sweet 03:56:04 any need to download extra stuff for codecs 03:57:47 No IIRC 03:58:34 I don't remember having to download files the last time I converted something. 03:58:54 i'm sorry but whats IIRC? 04:00:12 http://cygwin.com/acronyms/: If I Recall Correctly 04:01:05 ha, i guess i should have known that. i thought it was a technical term. Im tired 04:01:22 was thinking* 04:02:20 ok, thanks a lot! :) 04:02:34 bye! ;) 04:02:38 *** JAWS has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0.1/20110707182747]) 04:08:02 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 04:12:06 Hey ChrisMorgan, I've found a way to include all the built-in variables into $ProgramExecutable expansion. 04:12:21 kAlug_: what, delayed expansion? 04:13:16 I expanded it just before checking if the file exists, in InstanceManagement.nsh. 04:14:11 It's processed after DriveLetter, DirectoryMoving, Variables, and Language. 04:17:23 hola ChrisMorgan 04:17:42 Hey JohnTHaller 04:21:47 ChrisMorgan: Should it be documented elsewhere? After all, now it's working as it should had been all this time. 04:21:57 night all 04:22:03 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:22:05 gnight 04:23:06 kAlug_: it should be put in the release notes. 04:25:55 bug fix or change? 04:28:00 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 04:28:00 change 04:28:05 GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable 04:28:16 Change. 04:35:11 *** matborden (~matborden@ip68-226-13-113.ga.at.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 04:51:46 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:58:38 I hope that ChrisMorgan knows that PAL 2.1.1 is ready. 05:07:37 yeah, i'd like to post that and update all the apps that depend on it over the next week 05:09:33 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 05:14:16 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 05:18:10 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 05:27:47 ChrisMorgan: Should we deprecate ProgramExecutable*64, favouring the use of %PAL:Bits% instead? 05:27:56 I think so. 05:31:00 Instead of App\AppName and App\AppName64, we should specify App\AppName32. No need to set BitsVariable32=. 05:33:43 Yep, I was planning on recommending standardising those cases where it's a separate directory as AppName32 and AppName64. But BitsVariable* will still be useful - some will be appname_x86.exe/appname_x64.exe or appname.exe/appname64.exe, etc. 05:33:51 Bye, I'm heading off now. 05:34:29 I plan to release PAL 2.1.1 when I get back. Got to add a mention of you in the release notes too. 05:39:40 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05:49:31 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:02:36 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.11.103.250) has joined #portableapps 06:04:31 *** kAlug_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07:01:52 *** benonsoftware (0194c83c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.1.148.200.60) has joined #portableapps 07:04:51 *** benonsoftware has quit (Client Quit) 07:18:12 *** rcmaehl has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07:19:25 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 07:26:51 *** matborden has quit (Quit: matborden) 07:45:01 *** amdzero_ (~amdzero@pool-108-28-82-81.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 07:45:01 *** amdzero has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:03:46 *** amdzero (~amdzero@pool-108-28-82-81.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 08:06:03 *** amdzero_ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09:50:32 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 11:44:21 *** pa_8982 (548c4386@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.140.67.134) has joined #portableapps 11:45:28 *** pa_8982 has quit (Client Quit) 12:30:31 *** zoz_is_my_nick (~zoz@mail.impuls-leasing.ro) has joined #portableapps 12:30:33 hello 12:31:02 anyone can help me related to utorrent? 12:47:12 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 12:50:13 *** zoz_is_my_nick has quit () 13:17:30 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-33-68-82.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 13:18:09 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 13:26:42 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 13:42:22 *** jason404 is now known as jason404|OFF 14:39:07 *** rcmaehl_fallback (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 14:39:43 *** rcmaehl has quit (Disconnected by services) 14:39:47 *** rcmaehl_fallback is now known as rcmaehl 14:40:24 *** rcmaehl_fallback (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 14:55:43 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: print "This is python, go learn it :P") 15:12:27 *** rcmaehl_fallback is now known as rcmaehl 15:17:32 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 16:02:37 *** jason404|OFF is now known as jason404 16:02:53 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 16:02:53 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 16:03:02 ... 16:17:45 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-5f77fd2c.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 16:20:05 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 16:49:18 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 17:09:55 kAlug: what name would you like me to use for you in the 2.1.1 release notes? 17:12:42 /whois kAlug 17:14:13 Full name, then? 17:15:57 Yes. Something like 'Aluísio Augusto "kAlug" Silva Gonçalves' or '(Aluísio Augusto Silva Gonçalves (a.k.a. kAlug)', whatever sound better. 17:16:16 My nickname is counter-intuitive. 17:16:32 Thats quite a long name. 17:16:51 I also see the non-latin characters come through as ? in the /whois... 17:17:29 I see them correctly... 17:18:19 U+00ED and U+00E7 17:20:44 They come through fine in the channel text, and in the SourceForge commits where you use your full name. 17:23:32 How am I supposed to handle the last part of http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/topics/64-bit/ ("It is possible that an environment variable"...)? 17:23:59 It's unnecessary now with %PAL:Bits%. 17:28:47 Throw away most of the paragraph and mention :env:`%PAL:Bits% ` - and put after the ".. versionadded:: 2.1" ".. versionadded:: 2.2\n :env:`%PAL:Bits% `". 17:49:13 ChrisMorgan: please take a look: http://kyra.kalug.net:49200/releases/2.2.html#environment-variable-parsing-on-launch-programexecutable (unfinished) and http://kyra.kalug.net:49200/topics/64-bit.html 17:52:05 Mainly unrelated: where you have "By appending a ``~`` to the ..." in the release notes, I think it could be better specified as "a ``~`` (tilde)" as it may be difficult to discern precisely what it is in some fonts (it's quite light in the font used in Ubuntu at that size). 17:53:06 I think I'd put after "the -64 variants" links to the two keys. 17:54:48 Then the question of what we want to do about those two. (a) Keep them, (b) deprecate them and remove them in 2.3 or 2.4 or something like that, or (c) remove them and make using them put up a big warning for the developer so they won't use them (the ability to do that makes deprecation less useful). 17:57:58 The chunk in topics/64-bit should be expanded upon, creating a concrete standard of AppName32/AppName64 when they go in different directories, but also referencing [Launch]:BitsVariables* as what you'll need to do with appname.exe/appname64.exe or appname_x86.exe/appname_x64.exe or such things, with examples (probably four examples - AppName%PAL:Bits%\appname.exe and AppName\appname%PAL:Bits%.exe without BitsVariables and with the two 17:59:55 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@d54C3529C.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 18:01:37 *** rainroom69 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:02:38 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@d54C3529C.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 18:14:38 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: Power-idling in 59 channels on 12 networks.) 18:15:13 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 18:21:29 *** rcmaehl has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 18:21:46 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 18:25:38 I'll split the 64-bit changes in 3 changesets: ProgramExecutable, 64-bit docs change, and -64 deprecation/removal. 18:25:43 kAlug: OK, I believe I am ready to release 2.1.1. 18:28:35 Whoops, made a slight mess of it as I didn't pull before making my changes... will now fix things. 18:29:22 git rebase origin/master ;) 18:31:53 sar3th: We use Mercurial. But it also have rebase ;) 18:33:00 I really made http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/launcher/graph pretty :-) 18:34:16 i see, hg's branching is close to git's 18:35:52 sar3th: it depends on how you want to use it. hg can follow git branching model or it can follow two or three more of its own. hg is more flexible and (though some will disagree) *better* in branching than git. 18:36:08 how so 18:41:03 I rather like Steve Losh's summary of it - http://stevelosh.com/blog/2009/08/a-guide-to-branching-in-mercurial/ 18:41:44 Cool graph. It remembers me my time playing Locomotion xD 18:43:35 Hmm. Well, that's not generally what I try to achieve with branching. That's the biggest tangle I've got myself into, but it was still easy to sort out. 18:44:23 * kAlug is going away for a couple hours 18:44:30 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 18:44:34 Well, I'm afraid I really do need to go to bed now. Release on the morrow, then, I guess. 18:45:32 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 18:48:44 *** rainroom69 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 18:49:09 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:49:22 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@d54C3529C.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 18:49:42 *** rainroom69 has quit (Client Quit) 19:01:51 *** JAWS (~chatzilla@adsl-99-164-51-210.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 19:05:44 hi, which program on PA.c is easy to make a .vbs script that hides/shows hidden files into an .exe? 19:26:02 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07CDDF.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:31:02 nobody? 19:39:51 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 19:41:41 ok, whatever. instead can someone help me with VLC 19:43:06 Hi Gizmobot 19:43:07 Hi JAWS 19:47:58 JAWS: asking the same question over and over is not going to get you an answer 19:48:07 Use google if you've not received and answer to date. 19:48:20 using "ok, whatever" is an express ticket to finding yourself unwelcome here. 19:48:34 and asking to ask is also not going to get yourself an answer. 19:48:35 sorry 19:48:42 I suggest you read the rules. This is going to be your only warning. 19:48:46 carry on. 19:52:02 sorry, i just wanted help converting an avi. to something else while syncing another audio track to it and muting the other 19:52:40 i wasn't trying to be rude i guess i should have said nevermind instead of ok, whatever 19:53:49 ... and your rules page has a poor rep. according to WOT so read what i could see behind the WOT popup a long time ago 19:54:21 what is WOT 19:55:45 Web Of Trust (FF/IE addon/webservice) 19:57:15 WOT should've been resolved a long time ago. WOT has a point of failure in that it isn't verified by actual people and can easily be "trolled" into a false rating. I've done what I can to correct it. 19:57:27 VLC is not an app that is designed for reconverting videos. 19:59:10 iirc John was saying something about it last night 20:01:54 it actually looks like kAlug|Away was the one who said that. You can convert a bit with VLC, but it's a simple conversion. Though it may work I suppose, depending on the requirement. 20:03:46 would you suggest another program to do something like that then, that's relatively easy? 20:04:25 ya, I just saw that is was kAlug in the logs 20:05:47 * benedikt93 likes XMedia Recode (prapper has a dev test in the forums) 20:07:40 what did you mean by this... asking the same question over and over is not going to get you an answer... about the vbs's? 20:08:06 thanks benedikt93 i'll check that out 20:10:56 yes JAWS. In the last two days I've seen you ask about that over half a dozen times. 20:12:36 well, i guess i thought if I periodically asked someone that might not have been on the first time could help. I'm really sorry. 20:14:02 is it bad that my nickname is in all caps 20:21:06 *** kaeos (~Miranda@90.164.135.241) has joined #portableapps 20:27:12 Gizmokid2005, I'm kind of new to this IRC stuff and early last week i believe, George2, said something to Gizmobot for me and when i came on yesterday it popped up that he had commanded Gizmobot to tell me so i asked again 20:27:31 *about the vbs thing 20:28:10 Am I going to be in trouble? 20:33:29 From now, I am will be more aware of the things I do/say on these channels and won't ask the same questions repeatedly. 20:51:43 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 20:59:25 Gizmokid2005, I'm very sorry, and I'll probably get into trouble for having to leave, but I must go now. Sorry for all the trouble. Bye 20:59:33 *** JAWS has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0.1/20110707182747]) 21:13:15 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 21:30:00 *** matborden (~matborden@ip68-226-13-113.ga.at.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 21:48:20 *** JAWS (~chatzilla@adsl-99-164-51-210.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 21:49:16 hi, I'm back 21:53:26 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 21:53:29 GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable 21:54:12 JAWS: this might do what you want: http://geeklad.com/convert-to-exe-with-free-program (Found by a guick google search) 21:54:27 *quick 21:58:08 thanks GordCaswell, the download won't open though, it says ActiveX component can't create object: 'UserAccounts.CommonDialog'. what do i do? 21:59:26 how did you see that old question when you just joined? 22:02:46 he's probably reading the logs 22:03:53 I read the logs regularly 22:04:17 oh 22:04:53 I don't know, I just googled it, and it looked like it might work for you, based on the comments on that page. Try a google search for another utility if that doesn't work. I have no need of it myself, so I haven't even tried to download it. 22:05:14 I g2g, back to work. Happy coding! 22:05:20 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 22:06:04 it looked cool 22:11:57 well, I've got to go as well. See everyone soon. Thanks for all the help everyone! 22:11:58 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 22:12:01 *** JAWS has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0.1/20110707182747]) 22:12:26 .tell JAWS Why do you need a VBS->EXE converter? 22:12:26 kAlug: I'll pass that on when JAWS is around. 22:16:11 *** vf2nsr has quit (Client Quit) 22:31:05 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 22:53:07 *** MrLogin (50ca3d06@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.202.61.6) has joined #portableapps 22:54:22 Seems to be a problem with the login to the site.. Every time I've tried i get "Wrong Password" and have to reset it. Even from 2 different PC's.. I've used the same passsword all the time, with LastPass, so this seems very strange.. Just wanted you to know! 22:54:58 MrLogin, i can login just fine 22:55:09 you might want to change that password and make sure your machines are clean 22:55:29 *** GizmoBot has quit (Ping timeout: 262 seconds) 22:56:25 They are, work everywhere else.. and on 2 pc's.. with passwordmanager (tried without too) 22:56:41 *** Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout: 262 seconds) 22:58:04 just wanted someone to maybe have a look at it.. i can reset every time if needed! :D 22:58:40 i'm not a site admin, just a regular user, so unfortunately there's nothing i can do about it :( 22:59:18 Hopefully someone higher ut sees this.. 22:59:22 gtg.. 22:59:25 later 22:59:38 *** ptmb (~ptmb@a81-84-159-241.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 22:59:50 bye 22:59:58 *** MrLogin has quit (Quit: Page closed) 23:04:39 *** GizmoBot (~GizmoBot@vps2.gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 23:04:43 GizmoBot is the official bot of #Gizmokid2005 and #PortableApps. 23:13:25 *** Gizmokid2005 (~Gizmokid2@vps2.gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 23:13:27 ... 23:56:18 *** RedGhost (~MNight@mdm1982.plus.com) has joined #portableapps