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s and s. 03:14:56 A question: how did you got that certification mark? 03:16:30 How is this? http://pastebin.com/fJdbCDNj 03:17:11 You have to follow the guidelines to use the OSI certified trademark. All the bits have to be open source under a license they have approved (MIT, BSD, MPL, GPL, Apache are all good here) and you have to follow all the bits of those licenses. 03:17:46 And I just fixed the typo in my comment: packages -> packaged 03:22:29 I see you removed the indentation. 03:23:16 Not a fan of unnecessary white space in areas I know older browsers have issues with it. Of course, I used to do Netscape 3 and IE3 fixes to HTML, so I have twitchy issues about that stuff. 03:23:20 Now get off my lawn 03:23:34 lol 03:24:01 Chrome is missing from the Outdated Apps list. 03:24:30 No it isn't 03:24:33 It's already done :) 03:24:45 nice :P 03:25:23 App Tsunami :) 03:25:41 Oh, and if you didn't see, this just dropped an hour and a half ago: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-08-10_-_libreoffice_portable_3.4.2_released 03:26:01 Ahh... I forgot it doesn't have a release announcement. 03:26:34 Yeah, I didn't realize we were going to do the 3.4 branch. Nice that we are though. (acutally, really nice!) 03:26:38 :) 03:26:51 It does have a release announcement on the homepage, RSS, twitter, etc 03:26:52 Hm.. I'm over using the word nice :'( 03:27:40 Yeah, after looking at 3.3.x and 3.4.2, this is the first one they call enterprise ready and they link it first now. There are a couple bugs that may cause issues in select groups, but they should be fixed in 3.4.3 within a couple weeks. And we'll be able to build within a couple hours then as I finally updated the auto-builder for it. 03:27:46 I mean Chrome Dev. 03:28:01 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 03:28:04 GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable 03:28:34 Hey all! 03:28:46 GordCaswell: Hey :) 03:30:04 JohnTHaller: I see you D/L'd the Evince rev. Do you plan on pushing it out soonish? 03:31:10 GordCaswell: Indeed I do :) 03:31:21 kAlug: I updated it already 03:32:05 I saw. The entire phrase is "I've forgot Chrome Dev doesn't have a release announcement." 03:32:19 Oh ok. I thought you meant LibreOffice... derp 03:32:26 *** LTxda (~anon@c-98-194-107-10.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:32:31 Kk, figured it might drop at some point with the "tsunami" and all, but I noted you did mention PR4 is coming soon, so that obviously is a priority before app revisions :) 03:32:52 Referncing my earlier, here is a page from a presentation I did in 1997... yes 1997... on the importance of support web standards and why working in IE3, IE4, Netscape 3 and Netscape 4 was important to our clients: http://portableapps.com/temp/webapp1997.png 03:33:54 help.html: http://kalug.net/p/1003/ . I've collapsed some single-directive CSS. 03:33:54 kAlug: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 03:34:16 lol 03:34:21 And that is, in fact, a relatively modern looking, frame-less, cross-platform and -browser, web app I built in 1997 03:34:34 It even had rollover states on all the 'buttons' across the top. 03:35:34 JohnTHaller: Wow. Was :hover even usable back then? 03:36:07 No such thing. It was a javascript rollover. 03:36:27 Does anyone here knows something about domain renewal/expiration? 03:36:34 I do, kAlug 03:37:20 gluxon: It really took some doing to get it working properly. But I built an HTML3/4-compatible framework that worked on everything. The corporate bank used it on their first dozen or two web apps. The departments loved it. 03:38:58 Not sure what to say, other than, that's amazing :D 03:39:36 kAlug.Net is going to expire today. I think I'll let it expire so I can change the registrar. How much time is necessary to wait between expiration and re-registration? (I don't want things down for too much time) 03:40:08 You don't need to let it expire to switch registrars. If it gets to that point, it may very well be snapped up by a spammer automatically. 03:40:44 kAlug: Why not just transfer it? 03:40:47 gluxon: Thanks. It used all corporate colors and stuff. I messed about with HTML in my spare time so by the time they were ready, I was ready to impress them. It was odd having a junior dev who'd only been there 10 months presenting to the whole dept 03:41:47 yeah kAlug renew it asap, nothing worse than domain hunters 03:42:23 Guess you've been impressing people before PortableApps.com :) 03:42:53 I need to fix up one of my sites lol 03:43:15 1. My current registrar is very bureaucratic. 2. The one I want switch to doesn't seem to support transfer for anything besides .com. Fortunately the prices are the same. 03:45:22 gluxon: I really enjoyed it back then. And I have done other fun stuff. I did do that MAFIAA thing, too. 03:46:05 JohnTHaller: did you saw my latest h.elp.html (#1003)? 03:46:07 (just renewed the domain, it'll be back online shortly) 03:46:52 kAlug: looks good to me. shall we go with that? 03:50:07 Side note: It's VERY odd looking back at this as this was the last time I have a public presentation before OSCON 2 weeks ago. 03:52:33 kAlug: when you renew your domain, I suggest going with a registrar that allows you to hide your personal information, as it's publically available right now 03:52:37 JohnTHaller: just let me check a few things here. BTW, are you going to publish the OSCON slides? 03:53:01 Yeah, I should do that. Sadly, they have no commentary notes and most of the meat is not on the slides. 03:53:47 GordCaswell: I just renewed it. I'm not sure if I'll need to wait 60 days, but I'll some research. 03:55:47 JohnTHaller: where does the Platform gets the drive name from? 03:56:07 autorun.inf iirc 03:56:08 autorun.inf 03:59:22 Ah. It seems that my custom AutoRunInfRewrite+PortableFonts+PlatformStart+Eject app deletes it while it's running. 04:00:10 ouch 04:00:44 This is repetitive: (Other\Source\Readme.txt) "To use it, copy AppNamePortable.ini from this directory to AppNamePortable.ini next to AppNamePortable.exe." 04:01:04 finished the touches on my new websites logo :D 04:01:42 kAlug: true 04:03:08 Suggestions: 1. Rename AppNamePortable.ini to *AppName*Portable.ini. 2. Remember the maintainer to replace AppName with *AppName* in Readme.txt too. 04:06:07 Just remembered: I need some help with TortoiseHg Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/28151#comment-181225 04:06:44 ZackThibeau: Not uploaded yet I assume? :'( 04:07:11 gluxon: it is just kind of uploading wordpress atm lol 04:07:15 gluxon: http://i54.tinypic.com/t8l1fo.png 04:07:41 new tech site I'm working on my spare time 04:07:58 well not just tech site also reviews etc 04:08:06 a geeks paradise I hope someday 04:08:28 Hope it goes well. 04:08:48 I hope so too 04:09:08 Well, it's midnight down here. 04:09:10 Bye guys. 04:09:12 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 04:10:34 gnight man. I'm gonna turn in too 04:10:44 hoping to use geek brown bag to bring good news to people :D 04:10:47 and night John 04:11:17 gnight all 04:11:25 gnight John 04:11:30 Please test: http://portableapps.com/node/28780 04:11:35 sure 04:12:05 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Kyra's shutdown in progress...) 04:12:08 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 04:26:55 .tell JohnTHaller: I just tested it with MS Narrator 64bit, and other than the left/right bug you mention in the thread, it works well 04:26:55 GordCaswell: I'll pass that on when JohnTHaller is around. 05:00:11 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:06:41 *** PlauSocks is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 05:18:26 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 05:28:45 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Quit: Never Drive Faster Than What Your Guardian Angel Can Fly! 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Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 15:55:26 KIKE: they should be reported to the appropriate forum and topic. 15:55:36 if one already exists, assuming you're talking about the platform. 15:56:15 I installed MP3Gain portable and got this message when tried to execute it: "Component 'MSCOMCTL.OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid" 15:56:29 where did you download MP3Gain from? 15:56:38 I'd like you file it and solve it 15:56:52 from your page portableapps.com 15:57:07 KIKE: report this in this forum: http://portableapps.com/forums/support/other_apps 15:57:23 ok 15:57:36 thanks 15:58:57 don't have an user account, could you do it for me? don't feel like filling forms right now 15:59:05 :-) 15:59:18 no. I don't have the information that you do on the issue. 15:59:29 when you get time, setup an account and post in there. 16:00:47 all the information is there, ok, if no one else is interested, it ain't my business 16:01:02 bye 16:01:08 No it's not KIKE 16:01:20 such as version of windows, where you have the app installed, etc. 16:01:42 oh I get it 16:02:02 Just like a normal bug report 16:02:14 if you don't give the developers enough information to duplicate the problem, you can't expect them to fix it. 16:02:15 well I'll do it later, thanx 16:03:01 *** KIKE has quit (Quit: Page closed) 16:03:34 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~chatzilla@cs181248068.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 16:12:22 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16:14:56 *** OliverK|Away (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 16:36:39 *** zachthibeau (~zachthibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 16:36:39 zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 16:36:46 *** zachthibeau is now known as ZachThibeau 16:36:48 ... 17:18:35 *** Venusaur (~desu@cpe-76-184-83-188.tx.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 17:18:55 *** Venusaur is now known as Guest1574 17:27:26 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:27:27 *** LTxda has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17:28:36 *** LTxda (~anon@c-98-194-107-10.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 17:30:59 *** Guest1574 has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) 17:31:21 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 17:43:53 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-33-68-82.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 18:19:05 *** dhrasmus (~dhrasmus@216.99.208.34) has joined #portableapps 18:35:38 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 18:43:18 Anyone here using pa.c SkypePortable? 19:13:37 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: .) 19:26:43 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 20:07:55 *** vf2nsr has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:22:11 *** sar3th has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:32:25 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 20:49:12 *** dhrasmus has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:02:47 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 21:06:10 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 21:06:10 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 21:06:15 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 21:32:33 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 21:50:57 *** kAlug (~kalug@201-0-57-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 22:07:06 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 22:27:40 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauCarrotSocks 22:28:14 *** PlauCarrotSocks is now known as PlauSocks 23:05:05 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 23:38:33 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 23:46:32 *** Thasmo has quit ()