00:03:42 [EnvironmentLast] sounds a bit odd for me (but I'm not a native English speaker; buffalo buffalo sounds odd too). 00:06:14 I wonder why does the chat room stays so quiet... 00:09:24 ChrisMorgan: please check the discussion I linked to. 00:09:29 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 00:10:37 *** jason404 is now known as jason404|OFF 00:24:05 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00:51:04 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 01:17:56 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Saindo) 01:21:36 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 01:38:19 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 02:05:36 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:07:00 Hey JohnTHaller! 02:07:06 hola kAlug 02:08:17 Did you get my email? The one from 3 days ago? 02:08:44 Always assume I need you to refresh my memory :) 02:09:36 Small changes to the app template v2.2. 02:10:06 1 min 02:12:19 BTW, here are the options I have for TeX Live: http://i.imgur.com/1AP56.jpg 02:12:33 How big is full scheme? 02:13:25 2756MB. I think I'll ask in the forums, maybe someone more experienced with TeX can help. 02:14:28 kAlug: I don't think we're planning on updating the Other\Source\readme.txt for individual apps because we want to be able to overwrite them with new launcher help files when/if options are added, etc. We wanted to keep it generic. 02:14:43 wow, that's huge 02:14:43 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@c-71-192-128-148.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:14:47 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Changing host) 02:14:47 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 02:14:58 (that's what she said_ 02:15:03 ... sorry... long day :) 02:15:06 lol 02:15:16 i know i mist something 02:15:26 (10:12:03 PM) JohnTHaller: wow, that's huge 02:15:39 (10:10:45 PM) kAlug: 2756MB. I think I'll ask in the forums, maybe someone more experienced with TeX can help. 02:15:43 lol 02:16:00 *** awjr has quit (Quit: awjr) 02:16:24 JohnTHaller: hey you getting ready for Irene? 02:17:31 check the possible path's. http://www.cnn.com/interactive/hurricane.tracker/ 02:17:54 Yeah. They're shutting down the subways on Saturday. We're not in a possible evacuation zone. Gonna stock up, tape the windows, etc, depending on how bad it is. 02:18:13 Tornadoes a couple months ago. Earthquake a few days ago. Now a hurricane. 02:18:33 what sucks here ist that i dont get pay till the 1st 02:18:48 and i have 15' windows 02:19:05 where are ya? 02:19:53 in Downtown area 02:19:57 Ah. It should be down to a moderate tropical storm by then, so hopefully you'll be ok. We went through Gloria in CT back in the 80s with 11 downed trees but our front bay window fine. 02:20:27 yea hopefully it will die out a bit 02:20:45 We're supposed to get a cat 1 or 2 at this point. Hoping the former. 02:21:19 Hmm. I think I saw something related... 02:21:39 From SciAm: Can Hurricanes Be Controlled? 02:21:54 yeah i hear you 02:22:12 The subways in NYC can't handle all the water, so shutting them down is a good idea. 02:22:24 Background: http://gizmodo.com/5834510/new-yorks-subway-may-not-survive-nicole-irene 02:22:25 well theoretacly you can by seeding the clouds with Ionick waves and so on 02:23:54 It involves Chaos Theory. http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2011/08/25/can-hurricanes-be-controlled/ 02:24:28 But you would need to change it on its beginning. 02:24:49 Could be possible in the future 02:25:17 it has been test in the past but it is very riscky 02:25:49 The problem is, you simply don't know where you're sending it to. 02:26:44 Unless you're in the NUMB3RS universe ;-) 02:26:53 not realy, the problem is that if you lose control to it you caould make it stronger or completely unstable, not that a storm is stable but it could make things wores 02:26:57 lol 02:27:31 It could become Hurricane Uber or something 02:28:20 thunders is getting louder and i have to take the dog out for his last walk and the rain has not stop for some time 02:28:26 I always wondered what would happen if you nuked a hurricane. 02:28:49 It would mutate. Zombie Hurricane. 02:28:59 nice 02:29:27 Maybe Hurricanezilla. 02:30:06 ok i have go thunder is getting worse 02:30:12 night all 02:30:24 Gnight. 02:30:26 gnight DannyMuniz. Good luck this weekend 02:30:32 yea you too 02:30:58 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Quit: Never Drive Faster Than What Your Guardian Angel Can Fly! (Denise Wiedeman)) 02:31:38 Back to the app template: we can 1) use NSIS' ${ReplaceInFile}. 2) Readme.txt can be changed to point the user to the value of AppInfo.ini\[Details]:AppID. 02:31:40 *** jason404|OFF has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 02:34:34 True. I could just have the installer do the find and replace as it is compiled. Or the launcher generator. 02:34:55 Launcher generator makes more sense. Let's put it there and not have the user touch it. 02:36:41 *** PlauSocks is now known as Das_Ghostie 02:37:01 *** Das_Ghostie is now known as PlauSocks 02:37:11 Yeo. Eventually the Generator will be merged in PADT, then... 02:46:49 But then I suddenly realized that it makes more sense in the Installer. After all, it's mainly a file for the user (and distribution), not the developer. 02:48:26 If done as part of the generator, though, then the dev is able to look at it and know it's been done. I was thinking of putting it in the installer for now (since I'm about to update in the next week) but we should get it into the generator too. 02:48:36 BTW JohnTHaller: I saw something about Installer 2.1 in the Outdated Apps thread a few days ago. Are you still working on it? 02:49:15 Yup 02:49:35 NSISu update, new languages and finishing up the multilingual URL handling for live FF etc installs 02:54:17 It's an one-liner in the Generator, but in the Installer... 02:54:36 One-liner as well. Maybe 3 tops 02:59:46 I see. Now I understand why does the Launcher have a ReplaceInFileWithTextReplace.nsh file. 03:01:32 And the Chrome Portable releases reminded me of updating CrPortable's homepage :-t 03:02:08 fun fun 03:05:01 One new file and we have... homepage, changelog, atom feed and PAD all updated. 03:06:43 *** awjr (~arthur@c-50-131-60-105.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:06:43 *** awjr has quit (Changing host) 03:06:43 *** awjr (~arthur@wikimedia/awjrichards) has joined #portableapps 03:12:05 Every time I look in the channel, it's always John and kAlug talking :-/ 03:12:33 AHHH. Someone else said something. *run run run( 03:14:16 .tell GordCaswell: (http://portableapps.com/node/29001#comment-182732) "I'll try to explain better on irc later.". I think I got it but please do explain. Even if I'm away/offline I'll check the logs later. 03:14:16 kAlug: I'll pass that on when GordCaswell is around. 03:14:37 JohnTHaller: You seem a bit giddy today. Anything good happen? :) 03:15:00 *** awjr has quit (Quit: awjr) 03:15:22 First day without any hint of migraine (knock on wood) in like a week. Getting apps updated. Working on a partnering thing. Prepping the fundraiser. 03:15:50 GizmoBot: You meant, when he write something (what not always happens). 03:16:57 * kAlug prefers MemoServ 03:19:48 Glad to hear. I didn't know you suffered from migraine though.. 03:20:54 i didn't use to. it started a few years ago, likely due to stress. i only get them occasionally. this one was a doozy. thought it was better on monday and went to the gym... for 2 mins and it was back. 03:23:46 JohnTHaller: do you know something about open-source licenses (excepting GPL)? 03:24:11 yeah, what are you wondering about? 03:28:51 Well, I've been working on web apps that automate the Test Releases and Beta Testing (and maybe even h3lp.html) while PADT doesn't have something like that. I'm thinking on licensing the code under the Artistic License 2.0. 03:30:06 I wanted to know what do you think about that license. 03:30:48 (I had a more objective question in mind, but I forgot it...) 03:32:33 I'm not as familiar with it as it's mostly a Perl-specific license. 2.0 did seem to add GPL compatibility, though. 03:37:57 Well, at least it's surely an improvement over zlib/libpng license :-S 03:45:42 kAlug: Just wondering. What's making you choose Artistic License 2.0 over GPL? 03:48:13 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@c-71-192-128-148.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:48:13 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Changing host) 03:48:13 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 03:48:46 well the storm here is some what gon 03:49:22 IDK, Perhaps the size (or the wording), perhaps the viral part, perhaps the fact you need to host the whole source code. I can even be infringing the GPL right now by uploading to SourceForge only the patches for Chromium Portable! 03:51:09 OT: It was incredibly hard to find a pastebin that supports CoffeeScript. I think I'm going to shutdown http://kalug.net/p/. 03:51:59 whats a coffescript 03:52:57 "CoffeeScript is a little language that compiles into JavaScript." 03:53:25 ah 03:54:41 It leads to quick (and confusing) coding: http://dumpz.org/79378/ 03:55:57 The @_ methods are for case-insensitive keys. 03:58:28 looks fun... heh 03:58:39 JohnTHaller: you should modd ListaryPortable launcher to support regitry that way people can use the pro version. example:http://kalug.net/p/1008/ 03:58:59 DannyMuniz: It appears the keys are hardware locked once registered. 03:59:14 I tried it with the Giveaway of the day key and it failed 03:59:39 i have been using it with that one and it works properly for me 03:59:55 It failed for me on both Win7 and XP 04:00:07 i use it on xp win 7 and vista 04:00:12 weird 04:00:14 that is odd 04:00:39 I had the same thought when that key came out, but I was disappointed. Because the code to add it is very easy. 04:00:48 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 04:01:15 did you delete the original key from the computer once i got the key 04:02:05 i could send you my listary to check it 04:02:13 Well, gotta sleep now. Tomorrow I'll need to rewrite the whole JavaScript I created for that web apps to make them work with this. 04:02:13 BTW JohnTHaller: both the Beta Testing and Test Release posts require more info that's on AppInfo.ini. I'd like to know if I can put additional sections on that file (perhaps naming them e.g. [-X-*Something*]). 04:03:18 Not really. What else do you need? 04:15:33 Then maybe I should keep that extra data as comments. After all, it's only for automation. These are all the variable data used in the posts: http://dumpz.org/79381/ (if ChrisMorgan wants to put these features in PADT, he will need them too). 04:15:55 Gnight. 04:16:04 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Image of the day: http://phototrough.com/images/2s1vfkm.jpg) 04:50:29 *** PlauSocks is now known as Das_Ghostie 04:51:00 *** Das_Ghostie is now known as PlauSocks 04:51:56 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 05:05:26 *** PlauSocks is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 05:23:55 *** awjr (~arthur@wikimedia/awjrichards) has joined #portableapps 05:38:38 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 06:04:18 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (opera@cs181248068.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 06:22:57 *** awjr has quit (Quit: awjr) 07:02:18 this would be a greate program to have if was not a .Net program http://earthalerts.manyjourneys.com/ 07:10:07 *** david_pi (62a4d61b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.164.214.27) has joined #portableapps 07:10:21 so how do i become admin 07:16:31 Excuse me? Are you trolling? 07:23:51 no really, i want to be admin 07:24:25 Sorry but only trusted personel is given that right 07:32:50 *** david_pi has quit (Quit: Page closed) 08:38:28 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09:16:32 *** kAlug (bb0b666b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.11.102.107) has joined #portableapps 09:24:19 lol kAlug you have to show up when im going to bed, I guess we have to a shift at some point 09:25:22 well im off to bed now 09:25:25 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Quit: Never Drive Faster Than What Your Guardian Angel Can Fly! (Denise Wiedeman)) 09:53:21 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 09:58:59 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Page closed) 09:59:15 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 10:42:56 *** maki_33 (6d2e0bf2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.46.11.242) has joined #portableapps 10:49:52 *** maki_33 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 11:16:10 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (opera@cs181248068.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 12:25:37 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 12:40:42 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 12:58:40 *** NikYasce (5f1898cd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.24.152.205) has joined #portableapps 12:58:52 *** NikYasce is now known as NikYas 12:59:09 Can anyone help me? 13:00:32 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 13:01:14 *** NikYas has quit (Client Quit) 13:20:06 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 13:33:04 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 14:03:25 *** Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14:03:25 *** Gizmokid2005 (~Gizmokid2@vps2.gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 14:03:25 Gizmokid2005 is the developer of KVIrc Portable: http://g2k5.us/4j and Songbird Portable: http://g2k5.us/4k 14:15:26 *** pa_3637 (5918ae24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.24.174.36) has joined #portableapps 14:17:20 hello , please can I download Firefox 5 portable ? v6 is incompatible with my plugins :-( 14:21:11 *** pa_3637 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 14:36:06 *** D_D has quit (*.net *.split) 14:45:07 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@c-71-63-3-78.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 14:45:07 agdurrette is awesome! nuff said. 14:45:28 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 15:30:28 *** pa_4510 (adb2fea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.178.254.160) has joined #portableapps 15:30:49 hello, portablesapps are not upgraded with KeePass 2.x? 15:34:28 pa_4510, see http://portableapps.com/node/19705 15:36:00 I understand.. but the release of this post is dated from June 23, 2009 15:36:02 *** awjr (~arthur@c-50-131-60-105.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 15:36:02 *** awjr has quit (Changing host) 15:36:02 *** awjr (~arthur@wikimedia/awjrichards) has joined #portableapps 15:36:17 probably some work during 2 years? 15:39:25 this post is constantly updated, so I expect the information there to be up to date 15:41:19 ok thanks. 15:41:23 *** pa_4510 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 15:44:00 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 15:57:55 *** awjr has quit (Quit: awjr) 15:59:07 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 16:25:09 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 16:31:38 *** awjr (~arthur@216.38.130.162) has joined #portableapps 16:31:38 *** awjr has quit (Changing host) 16:31:38 *** awjr (~arthur@wikimedia/awjrichards) has joined #portableapps 16:38:36 *** benedikt93 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:39:17 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 17:02:35 *** MaienM has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17:59:39 *** PlauSocks is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 18:02:09 *** gluxon (~gluxon@unaffiliated/gluxon) has joined #portableapps 18:03:41 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07C5B7.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 18:04:11 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 18:06:39 *** OliverK|Away (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 18:22:31 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18:35:10 *** OliverK|Away (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 18:43:33 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 18:58:02 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-33-68-82.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 19:41:14 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@c-71-192-128-148.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:41:15 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Changing host) 19:41:15 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 19:42:49 *** awjr has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19:45:33 *** awjr (~arthur@wikimedia/awjrichards) has joined #portableapps 19:47:57 *** PlauSocks has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19:53:30 *** Thasmo has quit () 20:03:09 *** ptmb (~Jose@a81-84-158-119.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 20:03:09 ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic... 20:20:13 *** pa_0566 (a98b1387@gateway/web/freenode/ip.169.139.19.135) has joined #portableapps 20:21:41 *** pa_0566 has quit (Client Quit) 20:30:52 *** gluxon is now known as gluxon|gone 20:34:32 *** awjr has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:36:34 *** awjr (~arthur@wikimedia/awjrichards) has joined #portableapps 20:53:22 *** gluxon|gone is now known as gluxon 21:16:56 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 21:19:40 *** vf2nsr has quit (Client Quit) 21:35:01 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 21:46:42 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 21:48:31 *** kAlug (c9004169@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.0.65.105) has joined #portableapps 21:49:49 .tell JohnTHaller "We'll have our slides from OSCON 2011 up soon" - just in the case you forgot them 21:49:49 kAlug: I'll pass that on when JohnTHaller is around. 21:50:54 *** kAlug has quit (Client Quit) 22:09:36 *** JC (42358c6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.53.140.106) has joined #portableapps 22:10:58 i cannot download the apps off the website for some reason idk why 22:15:07 help 22:15:08 JC: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 22:15:36 i cannot download the apps off the website for some reason idk why 22:16:08 any one know why or how to fix it 22:17:28 ?? 22:18:19 gtg 22:22:38 *** JC has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22:56:38 Perhaps we should have Gizmobot ping active members when someone says "help" ... 22:58:18 gluxon: i agree with you 22:59:01 Gizmokid2005: Good idea, bad? ^^^ 23:07:41 *** SergentSiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 23:07:42 SergentSiler is a pony 23:08:06 *** SergentSiler is now known as PlauSocks 23:23:20 *** DannyMuniz is now known as DannyMuniz[AFK] 23:24:19 *** awjr has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 23:24:40 *** awjr (~arthur@216.38.130.162) has joined #portableapps 23:24:50 *** awjr has quit (Changing host) 23:24:50 *** awjr (~arthur@wikimedia/awjrichards) has joined #portableapps 23:50:12 *** gluxon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 23:52:33 *** gluxon (~gluxon@unaffiliated/gluxon) has joined #portableapps 23:55:20 *** AlleyKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:58:03 *** Nkembi (~nkembi@unaffiliated/superboyian) has joined #portableapps