00:00:11 Humpf... expired paste. 00:00:11 mplayer2 is a fork of mplayer could get smplayer to use mplayer2 over the standard mplayer project http://www.mplayer2.org/ has some stuff fixed, removed the old built-in gui code that mplayer had among other things 00:13:37 I need a new router/modem unit, mine keeps crapping out on me 00:13:54 overheating more like it 00:19:54 i'd send you my spare one 00:20:31 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 00:21:56 mine is a modem/router given to me by my isp so I'll talk to them first but I'll keep you in mind :P 00:22:14 if you paid for the shipping ;) 00:22:39 lol well I can't for now :/ 00:22:43 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 00:22:45 unemployment sucks 00:23:14 so do call center work 00:26:43 Spam: http://portableapps.com/node/9909#comment-184348 00:27:02 looks like not 00:27:03 :P 00:27:08 I think Chris beat me to it 00:28:23 Ohh, this reminds me of... ChrisMorgan: What about renaming [Language]:SaveLanguage to [Language]:Save or [Language]:AutoSave? 00:29:31 * ChrisMorgan hasn't killed any spam in the past 10 hours 00:29:54 then someone did 00:30:04 because the comment seems to be gone 00:30:10 could be John 00:30:33 no, you don't look hard enough 00:30:36 it's on page 6 00:30:42 ZachThibeau: that spam *is* there, just on page 6... Drupal 6 misses the ?page=N bit in comment links 00:30:57 *** dbdii407 has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 00:31:09 that's probably why then 00:31:31 Gon' now. 00:31:35 I noticed 00:40:59 ChrisMorgan (in case you haven't got it): What about renaming [Language]:SaveLanguage to [Language]:Save or [Language]:AutoSave? 00:42:03 What's the one in [LanguageFile] called? SaveLanguage? 00:43:15 SaveAs. Good 00:45:05 I like Save. 00:45:14 For [Language]:SaveLanguage, that is, of course. 00:48:02 Ah, nice and easy to see all changes on branch 2.1.x since 2.1.1... ``hg log -r 2.1.1: -b 2.1.x`` (and add -p for diffs) 00:48:07 * ChrisMorgan likes mercurial 00:50:12 Oh, I checked PAL's source code a few days ago, and it seems that it already has multiple launcher support. So only support in the Generator is missing, correct? 00:50:22 Plus the launcher.ini logic. 00:51:03 Correct. Except, as I've said before, there are multiple ways of doing multiple launchers - and we don't cater to the most common, LibreOffice-style, where you just want to tack on a command line argument. 00:57:04 In the current language (NSIS), we could handle them independently. We would just need to check how to handle concurrent launches. I don't think launcher.ini contents' duplication is a so big issue. 00:57:59 set EnableBalloonTips 1 00:58:16 oops, sorry testing out something and I forgot the /command xD 00:59:04 kAlug: it is, actually. Most of the cases that I've had enquiries for would require common data and running two launchers at the same time. 00:59:06 Once we move to a better language (if ever), we could use a shared launcher.ini+custom.nsh+debug.nsh. The main problem with doing this currently is ReadLauncherConfig/ForEachINIPair. 00:59:48 s/use/allow/ 01:00:46 I did a small test with PuTTY+Pageant last week. 01:01:22 We had a Google tech talk three weeks ago at Uni, golang was one of the things being talked about; I asked them about it, but was told that it does require a runtime which ends up several megabytes (which even after UPX won't compress down). Most of which is Unicode tables which could be stripped out with a bit of work, but it doesn't sound to me like it's worth it. Pity, Go! is quite a nice language. 01:02:26 What about Delphi, Python+PyInstaller (seems to be standalone) or D? 01:03:07 Delphi has the problem of being a commercial product and requiring a license to develop with it 01:03:17 freepascal 01:03:19 Hey, I do have a unable-to-fly bee at my floor! 01:08:56 Python+PyInstaller is something I've planned to look into at some time, but it keeps on not happening... it could fit in quite nicely with PADT being Python, simplifying some aspects. 01:09:19 Won't do Delphi because of the licensing issue. Free Pascal is something I've considered. 01:09:45 Never even looked at D; it seems quite interesting. Possibly worth further investigation. 01:09:46 with some work it could be compiled with freepascal and delphi compilers 01:10:36 *** ronjn has quit (*.net *.split) 01:10:37 *** sar3th has quit (*.net *.split) 01:10:38 *** Zarggg has quit (*.net *.split) 01:10:39 *** Suiseiseki has quit (*.net *.split) 01:10:39 *** rcmaehl has quit (*.net *.split) 01:10:39 *** AlleyKat has quit (*.net *.split) 01:10:39 *** Bensawsome has quit (*.net *.split) 01:11:10 ChrisMorgan: What is the palogbot restart URL? 01:11:10 oh dear 01:11:10 netsplit time 01:11:18 don't bother at the moment 01:11:20 kAlug: there isn't one 01:11:22 netsplit in progress 01:11:57 Then someone needs to tell it to GizmoBot. 01:12:34 If palogbot dies, it'll be back within 20 minutes. 01:13:09 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 01:13:09 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 01:13:09 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 01:13:09 *** ronjn (ronjn@dslb-088-066-108-178.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 01:13:09 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) has joined #portableapps 01:13:09 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 01:13:09 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 01:13:09 Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats 01:13:34 In any case, what we have now for PAL does work. Switching language will be significant effort, so I want significant gain before we switch to something else. 01:16:39 Vital: ANSI, UTF-8 and UTF-16LE support, Win32 API access, no external dependencies (such as MSVCR). Built executable should be below 200KB. Preferable: already-existing INI parser (but I can write one if necessary). 01:18:24 INI parser is easy; I wrote one in <120 lines (I used most of them to implement case-insensitive JavaScript properties). 01:20:07 ouch 01:20:28 I've been missing some stuff in xchat svn, new stuff has been added and I've been falling behind some 01:20:56 Depends a little on how efficient you want to make it. Was yours saving it all or doing a full pass each time? 01:22:27 I converted everything to dictionaries/objects. I was even considering on implementing a launcher.ini validator. 01:22:53 BTW, what about normalizing yes/no/ok/* to true/false? 01:25:37 I've actually been thinking of doing it the other way... 01:26:31 Sometimes we need a tri-state variable (or even quad-state), using "true" and "false" in those cases would give the indication that it was only boolean, even if other values are valid, which would be incorrect. That's why there are some which aren't true/false. 01:27:02 Uploaded PAL 2.1.2, now waiting for signing and release by John. 01:34:23 Good. Now can you merge it with default? 01:47:05 *** z3uS (~z3us@66.7.214.196) has joined #portableapps 01:47:27 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 01:47:29 GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable 01:56:58 *** rcmaehl has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02:07:19 *** Farfar (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 02:10:22 *** BjornH has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02:11:22 OK, merged. 02:11:37 And I think that that's the last commit that should be going in the 2.1.x branch. 02:13:35 Keep it open 'till 2.2 final. 02:14:02 Do you want the yes/no changes for 2.2 too? 02:30:24 Not yet, I'd like to review them all manually. And not for 2.2, I think. Not until PADT has taken over and can do full validation of things when compiling. 02:30:43 Sure, I don't intend to close the branch till 2.2 is tagged. 02:31:34 Bye, I'm off to Uni now. Back in a couple of hours. 02:31:43 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 02:39:52 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:43:36 *** Farfar has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:49:08 *** kAlug is now known as Aerok 02:57:12 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 03:08:59 *** SergentSiler (~Kyle@69.177.200.109) has joined #portableapps 03:08:59 *** SergentSiler has quit (Changing host) 03:08:59 *** SergentSiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 03:09:01 SergentSiler is a pony 03:09:03 SergentSiler is a pony 03:09:32 *** PlauSocks has quit (Disconnected by services) 03:09:36 *** SergentSiler is now known as PlauSocks 03:45:30 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 03:52:59 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 04:03:39 *** PlauSocks is now known as Das_Ghostie 04:04:07 *** Das_Ghostie is now known as PlauSocks 04:14:32 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407-@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 04:14:33 dbdii407 is Dave, Co-owner of the ext3 IRC Network. 04:59:12 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 05:01:43 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 05:10:35 *** jbs has quit (Quit: Page closed) 06:44:26 *** kosto (~michal@bband-dyn241.95-103-119.t-com.sk) has joined #portableapps 07:24:09 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09:30:08 *** AlleyKat has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09:39:22 *** kosto has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:47:40 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 11:37:24 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 13:22:44 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 14:20:36 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 15:09:49 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07D512.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 15:37:06 is there a problem with app updating? 15:37:46 jason404: in what respect? 15:38:07 I have a load of errors in the update dialogue box 15:38:35 I just checked, and the apps that are in it have not even had any recent updates 15:39:21 anyway, I'll look into that later. I have to go out now 15:39:23 cheers 15:40:46 jason404: no errors here. Just updated TaskCoach and TBird w/o issue. 15:41:00 ok, thanks 15:45:46 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 16:21:14 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-32-70-74.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 16:25:50 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 16:32:52 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 18:11:14 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 20:32:56 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 20:40:54 *** Aerok has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 20:49:43 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:50:13 when is the next release of PA.c menu 2 gonna be out 21:02:49 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 21:02:49 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Client Quit) 21:03:24 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 21:04:04 *** Marlin (4fd16822@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.209.104.34) has joined #portableapps 21:04:17 hey guys 21:04:36 just a litle question ... 21:05:51 just installed portableapps on my new USB-Stick (until now I allways used the old Release) but after I installed it my USB seems to be locked ... 21:06:14 frankly I cant put anything on it 21:10:11 noone? 21:11:14 how big is the flash drive 21:11:24 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 21:13:12 marlin? 21:13:53 ja? 21:14:00 16GB 21:14:35 you just put the menu on it and nothing else? 21:15:37 I had an old Version installed and just installed the new Version over that 21:16:11 and now when you try to put like a document on the drive it wont allow you? 21:17:14 yep 21:17:37 what brand is the drive? 21:17:37 In German it say's "Schreibgeschützt" I don't know the englisch word ... 21:17:40 like locked 21:17:49 but it has no switch or anything 21:18:07 Spaceloop ... i think its Cn Memory 21:18:22 are you using a windows computer? 21:18:27 Win7 21:18:35 32Bit 21:18:41 Professional 21:19:13 have you tried formatting it and trying it all over again? 21:19:35 not by now ... I thougt I could aviod that ... 21:19:50 do not do a quick format, i have had trouble with quick format 21:21:04 stil have data on that Device, which i cant copy from there either ... that could be a problem ... 21:21:35 data besides the PA.c stuff that you need? 21:22:12 would be nice if i could save id ... yes 21:22:16 *it 21:22:28 is it big files or just documents? 21:22:40 some photos 21:23:18 you can try to email them to yoursrelf 21:24:03 u think that would work if i cant even copy them from the device? 21:24:39 wait, have you done a virus scan recently? 21:24:50 and i think so, wont hurt to try 21:25:48 it's not a virus, checked that ... 21:27:17 *** kosto (~michal@chello089173144020.chello.sk) has joined #portableapps 21:27:31 ok, odd. did you try the email yet? 21:27:53 nope, will try it now ... 21:28:06 do it online 21:28:11 on a browser 21:28:42 sure 21:29:06 could act differently 21:30:09 Marlin, did you try a checkdisk? 21:30:18 no 21:30:18 whats that= 21:32:03 completed successfully, no difference 21:32:15 oh yeah, go to the start menu, type in cmd, right click and run as administrator, thern type in the drive letter followed by a : then hit enter then type in chkdsk then enter 21:35:36 doesn't work cause its locked ... wiches circle 21:36:11 did you try the drive on a different computer 21:36:28 will try afterwards 21:38:23 if that works, transfer the pictures to the other computer and do a normal format 21:40:25 but if it doesnt, then i have no other help for you 21:40:56 well ... let's see what linux can do for me ... 21:41:18 i say try a whole different computer 21:41:25 not a new OS 21:41:37 on the same computer 21:41:44 linux is on a different computer 21:41:52 then ok\ 21:52:22 seems to work un linux :-) 22:00:29 then if it can, format it after you get the pictures transfered to work on windows 22:00:42 which is i think fat32 22:02:46 *** Aerok (~kalug@200-232-220-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 22:03:12 anybody confirm 22:03:17 *** Aerok is now known as kAlug 22:03:39 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 22:07:02 techfreak243: The next release of PAP is scheduled for release this week. 22:07:57 yay, will it have the win7 jumplist customization on it 22:08:51 I don't know. It's wait to see :) 22:09:40 because the win7 jumplist maker will be awesome 22:10:00 marlin are u formatting? 22:11:00 kalug, marlin's problem seems kinda weird 22:11:44 Can you summarize it to me? 22:15:17 he got the PAM on and then his flash drive just locked up on him on his windows 7 professional 32 bit computer but luckily he had a different computer with linux that the drive worked just fine on. so he is gonna transfer the pictures he has on the drive and format the drive to work on windows which is i think fat32 22:17:19 Yep. FAT32. A question: was it NTFS? 22:21:53 *** Thasmo has quit () 22:28:27 a different type of storage\ 22:28:56 i have no idea what the hell it means but would like to know 22:29:53 *** kosto has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:30:02 NTFS is the filesystem used by Windows 2000 and newer on fixed hard drives. 22:35:05 *** Marlin has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:43:05 *** AlleyKat has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 22:50:04 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks