00:00:09 Does D produce a standalone executable that doesn't depend on any MSVCR? 00:01:00 Haven't checked it, hold on. But Hello World is 136KB UPX'ed. 00:03:02 Dependency Walker (depends.exe) is one nice easy way to check DLL dependencies. If you haven't heard of it before, you have now. 00:03:22 I do have it. 00:04:38 OK. MSVCRT (IIRC included by default since Windows XP) and MSVCP60 (used in Google Chrome, so I believe it's included with XP too). 00:04:53 * kAlug goes find usage statistics for Windows 2000 00:07:22 MSVCP60 is 216KB in CornicePortable\App\Cornice\support. Too big. 00:07:59 Wait, I'll check if it's in XP... 00:08:18 Net Market Share/August 2011: Windows 2000: 0.18%; Windows NT 4.0: 0.18% :) 00:08:50 Chrome runs on a clean XP SP2 VM, and it uses MSVCP60. 00:09:06 Yes, it is. Not sure if it's in 2000, though, and we're not going to drop 2000 support. 00:09:43 And I don't have a fresh 2000 VM at present. 00:14:05 May I ask why do we still support Windows 2000? 00:14:13 Because. 00:15:06 Grr. BizSpark doesn't offer 2000... which means that I'll need to get a license from elsewhere, which means waiting till Dad gets back next week... 00:15:45 Hmm... MSDNAA also doesn't offer it. 00:15:52 ChrisMorgan: kAlug of course they don't 00:15:58 Win2K was EOL'd already 00:16:01 Yeah, I recall MSDNAA not offering it. 00:16:03 thus it's not a supported product. 00:16:11 and we shouldn't be stopping anything to provide support for it. 00:16:30 Gizmokid2005: MS-DOS 6? Windows 3.1? 00:16:42 what about them ChrisMorgan? 00:16:51 I fancy they've reached EOL. 00:17:03 yes, and we don't provide apps for them. 00:17:07 MS-DOS 6 is still available. 00:17:49 Gizmokid2005: the question is of whether BizSpark and MSDNAA offer it! 00:17:54 they won't! 00:17:57 because they're past EOL 00:18:11 They /do/ 00:18:12 even for enterprise deployments they're past EOL. 00:18:25 And things like Office 95, Visual Basic 2. 00:18:26 obviously they don't 00:18:35 if you just said that bizspark doesn't offer Win2k 00:19:12 we shouldn't be promoting support for an OS that is susceptible to unpatched security flaws. 00:19:18 Gizmokid2005: it *does* offer all these things I'm saying, but not Windows 95, 98, Me, NT or 2000. 00:19:19 Wikipedia says: "Unsupported as of 13 July 2010" for 2000. 00:19:34 kAlug: ChrisMorgan - yes, and windows says the same: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/enterprise/products/windows-7/end-of-support.aspx 00:19:41 scroll all the way down. 00:19:58 vista SP1 was EOL'd before XP will be. 00:20:53 The security flaws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2000#Unpatched_critical_flaws 00:21:21 Gizmokid2005: you're missing the point. I'm merely commenting on the availability of these things on MSDN via BizSpark or MSDNAA (or DreamSpark). They have many obsolete products, but they don't have Windows 2000. 00:21:43 there's a difference in offering EOL OS versus just general software 00:21:49 you're not open to the same vulnerabilities. 00:22:46 Gizmokid2005: Windows 3.1? 3.11? 3.2? MS-DOS? 00:22:56 again ChrisMorgan, what about them? 00:23:03 They offer them. 00:23:11 Research, maybe? 00:23:14 yes, they're unable to be connected outside of a local installation. 00:23:22 thus they require physical access to be exploited 00:23:24 Not true of 3.11 or 3.2. 00:23:40 there's no opportunity for error. 00:23:58 ChrisMorgan: 3.11 and 3.2 do not have proper TCP/IP support to connect to any networks 00:24:03 same of win95 00:24:28 True. 00:38:16 Anyway, this discussion has finally prompted me to get round to installing Windows 7 x86 and x64 VMs. 00:40:01 * kAlug wonders what Windows XP Setup means by "Saving settings" 00:45:38 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 01:38:23 *** techfreak244 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01:40:31 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 01:44:29 hey kAlug 01:45:13 Hallo ZachThibeau 01:46:04 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 02:07:10 *** MaienM|Sleep has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02:23:20 *** kAlug is now known as Aerok 02:24:42 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 02:42:25 *** AlleyKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:45:26 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 03:42:35 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 04:01:12 *** ronjn (ronjn@dslb-088-067-070-178.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 04:01:13 *** ronjn___ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05:26:31 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05:37:50 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 06:25:33 *** kiriko (~Bluerorbi@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 07:06:22 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 07:11:22 *** kiriko has parted #portableapps (None) 07:34:35 *** pa_0048 (3c33f98b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.51.249.139) has joined #portableapps 07:34:42 help 07:34:42 pa_0048: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 07:35:13 help 07:35:14 pa_0048: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 07:36:21 need help with "Hide Desktop Icons - You can have the platform hide the PC's desktop icons when running clicking options and checking off Hide Desktop Icons." 07:36:51 I can't hide my desktop icons 07:37:22 anyone can help? 07:47:55 seems all busy... bye... 07:48:08 *** pa_0048 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 09:34:36 *** Aerok has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 10:14:45 *** techfreak244 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 10:39:13 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a58b7.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 11:20:45 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 12:00:25 *** Bivor (~Bivor@180.149.7.80) has joined #portableapps 13:29:46 *** Bivor has quit (Quit: See ya later) 13:40:04 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 13:44:14 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 14:00:20 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 15:03:07 *** AlleyKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:50:16 *** kosto (~michal@bband-dyn241.95-103-119.t-com.sk) has joined #portableapps 16:07:47 *** pa_6515 (4f7192c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.113.146.193) has joined #portableapps 16:08:01 hi anyone there? 16:08:48 quick question: just installed google chrome portable, won't even start. any thoughts? 16:27:58 try to reinstall it, whichever version you got 16:29:23 got the newest from this site, reinstalled it twice. did google search with this issue, no solved problems. 16:29:27 tuff for me 16:30:15 hmm......it works fine on my flash drive. i dont know. do you have any other versions installed besides the stable version? 16:31:59 yes, I was thinking of installing it on my flash drive too. no other versions installed, portable or otherwise. I have no idea either 16:32:29 do you have the normal version installed on your computer? 16:34:07 no, absolutely no chrome on the computer. thought of trying the portable version, in summer 2010 had a bad experience with chrome 16:34:36 repositioning tabs would pop out in new windows, wouldn't pop in the first window, stopped there 16:35:18 and since im getting fed up with new firefox thought of giving chrome a new go 16:36:33 installing now onto flash drive. 16:37:20 (disclaimer: I'm only a user, too, so don't give too much on what I say:)) If I understood correctly, you installed it to your windows drive? If yes, to which path exactly? 16:38:39 yes, installed on laptop, I use xp dont laugh, installed to the c:/ partitioning, the classic program files 16:38:56 GoogleChromePortable as installer sets it 16:39:42 amazingly it starts from the flash drive. so me = flabbergasted 16:42:57 *** Bivor (~Bivor@58.97.155.112) has joined #portableapps 16:44:13 This might well be related to the path you chose. There're restrictions for that folder on Windows (although I'm npt sure there are any on XP). Additionally, this may lead to too long paths. This is why installation to the drive's root is recommended for the apps from PA.c. 16:44:28 *** identifier (~identifie@cm-84.212.106.247.getinternet.no) has joined #portableapps 16:46:30 restrictions? amazing. didnt think of that. maybe ill install somewhere closer to c:\ 16:47:06 thanks for your answers, and input. 16:47:14 As I said I'm only sure of this since Vista (UAC and stuff) 16:47:19 np 16:49:00 yes, vista. heard of that. lol. so far so good, chrome tabs arent popping out all over the place when i reposition them, ill just need a couple of addons. 16:49:08 firefox is getting slower by the day 16:49:27 thanks techfreak244, thanks benedikt93 16:49:49 * benedikt93 still is at FF 3.6 16:52:49 why 16:53:30 *** identifier has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:53:48 for a long time the addons, and atm being too lazy for the upgrade and ensuring all addons (quite a bunch...) work 17:00:39 okay. im going now. take care all 17:00:51 *** pa_6515 has parted #portableapps (None) 17:05:05 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 17:37:10 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 17:37:38 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-32-70-74.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 18:42:45 *** Bivor has quit (Quit: See ya later) 18:53:29 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 20:08:05 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 20:19:36 quick note, i read somewhere that installation into C:\Program Files is officially unsupported 20:56:07 *** kosto has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:21:23 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 22:10:45 *** Thasmo has quit () 23:11:36 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 23:54:40 *** PlauSocks has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23:57:04 *** SergentSiler (~Kyle@69.177.200.21) has joined #portableapps 23:57:04 *** SergentSiler has quit (Changing host) 23:57:04 *** SergentSiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 23:57:08 SergentSiler is a pony 23:57:09 ... 23:57:48 *** SergentSiler is now known as PlauSocks