00:07:44 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 00:31:58 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 00:53:09 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 01:58:30 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 02:04:51 Hey 02:05:00 Did you all hear about Fedora 17? 02:06:39 *** techfreak245 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02:13:05 *** MaienM has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02:19:19 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 02:25:28 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02:27:17 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: print "This is python, go learn it :P") 03:20:48 *** AlleyKat has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 03:22:49 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 03:40:35 *** sar3th has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04:03:41 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: TheCyberShocker, ZNC http://thecybershocker.com/) 05:07:25 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 05:21:20 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@12.204.103.109) has joined #portableapps 05:21:21 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 05:21:31 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Guest64370 05:26:28 *** Guest64370 has quit (Quit: TheCyberShocker, ZNC http://thecybershocker.com/) 05:28:14 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@12.204.103.109) has joined #portableapps 05:28:15 ... 05:28:25 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Guest6152 05:42:30 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 05:50:07 *** Zarggg has quit (Quit: Rebooting client...) 05:57:04 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) has joined #portableapps 06:34:22 ChrisMorgan: Not sure if it makes sense, but check this out: http://p.kalug.net/5 06:36:03 kAlug: the problem I see with it is still just that it gets the settings in A; what would you plan to happen next time B is started first? 06:38:13 B just uses A's settings (after asking the user, of course); it doesn't save them, thus keeping its own settings intact. 06:38:46 But B has some of its own settings, too. 06:39:18 And B writes registry values, replaces things and does assorted other different things to what A does, just to cause trouble. 06:40:30 1. The registry handling is per-key. 2. At least we've warned the user. 06:49:10 Once A is set up, some of the values set in this shared registry key require another registry key to have such-and-such values, but B's standard values in this key don't require the extra key, so things break. 06:49:25 There is plenty of scope for failure with this way of doing it. 06:52:46 OK. Forget the locking. But warn the user we can mess with A's settings. 06:53:53 But it's certainly more straightforward than what I had been thinking of, which was basically having apps register what they'll do with us so that they all do the same thing, and store data in a CommonData folder. 06:55:35 Nevertheless, I can still see problems in the implementation; in particular, when we *do* have things like a FileWriteN section on the reg file, how should we do it? I'm thinking it'd probably be easiest to detect and update the filename in [FileWriteN] and [LanguageFile] sections. Sound right? 06:58:54 Yes, I guess.. 07:03:24 Have you thought about applying an approximation of this technique in other sections, such as files/folders? 07:08:05 No. I was thinking one step per time. 07:09:16 I'm going to add .NET version check support. It's going to be a bit complex. 07:09:43 ...maybe not. 07:12:00 Then, personally I'm inclined to tackle shared [DirectoriesMove] first, for SVN's benefit. What do you think? What existing cases are there where shared [RegistryKey] support would be helpful? 07:15:17 Hmm... how are we going to handle crashes? 07:21:10 Same as we do at present. It's just that the directory/file/key lives is in a different location to the app's own Data directory. 07:22:02 Tea time now, should be back later 07:22:16 Well, in this case, start with [DirectoriesMove]. 07:23:27 Existing cases? None, AFAIK. Coming? I know a few. 07:46:34 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: dream is collapsing) 08:19:57 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08:47:47 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 08:56:16 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 09:36:14 *** techfreak245 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 10:55:57 *** sar3th (~sar3th@krlh-5f71381e.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 10:55:57 *** sar3th has quit (Changing host) 10:55:57 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 11:46:07 *** Guest6152 has quit (Quit: TheCyberShocker, ZNC http://thecybershocker.com/) 11:47:07 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@12.204.103.109) has joined #portableapps 11:47:18 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Guest80602 12:46:39 *** techfreak245 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13:15:05 *** pa_0940 (c4027eaf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.2.126.175) has joined #portableapps 13:15:27 how do i unstall 13:16:14 *** pa_0940 has quit (Client Quit) 13:49:46 *** Guest80602 is now known as ZachThibeau 13:49:55 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 13:49:55 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 13:54:59 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs94231.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 15:20:42 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 16:31:40 *** kosto (~michal@chello089173144020.chello.sk) has joined #portableapps 17:50:00 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@p5B0C7C50.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 17:50:07 *** benedikt93 has quit (Changing host) 17:50:07 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 17:59:34 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@87.58.88.183) has joined #portableapps 18:08:34 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-32-70-74.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 18:25:03 *** pa_6808 (62f8cae7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.248.202.231) has joined #portableapps 18:25:52 help 18:25:52 pa_6808: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 18:26:17 ok i type slow 18:26:40 hi thank you for helping 18:30:26 i have a workbook in calc and montly i make a new tab and rename for the current month but i made a mistake and deleted the info from the prior month and renamed that tab i would like to recover that sheet if it's possible, i have not used the flash drive since. 18:39:03 *** Thasmo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:45:18 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-32-70-74.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 18:45:39 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.57.15.123) has joined #portableapps 18:46:11 pa_6808: I don't think that's possible. 18:47:14 pa_6808: But maybe... hold on. 18:49:37 let me rephrase that 18:49:56 I have a workbook with spreadsheets, each month I copy the previous months tab and rename the new tab with the current month and deleting most of the info in it to start the new month. My problem is I did not make a new tab, and deleted the info I needed. I saved and closed my PApps and have not used it since Is there any way to go back and recover that sheet? 18:50:16 At file level, no. 18:50:36 I'm sorry? 18:51:22 kalug what does that mean 18:51:27 File recovery tools won't work, so doesn't matter if you haven't used the drive. 18:52:02 But I think LibreOffice does have a way to do it. Open the file and click File->Versions... 18:52:16 I see because i tried to use recova 18:53:00 Recuva would work if the file hasn't been modified. 18:53:35 i see thanks for the explanation 18:53:52 about libreoffice 18:54:26 OpenOffice does have that too, I don't know which one you're using... 18:54:43 openoffice calc 18:55:21 Ah. It's the same menu item. 18:55:57 I'm not sure what to do 18:57:41 Does it shows something like this? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:CG3Ch11F15a.png 18:57:49 Is there any existing versions? 19:00:06 wow where did you find that? 19:00:25 I can put in my flash drive now and see 19:00:38 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Calc_Guide/Saving_versions 19:02:26 ok i will look on my flash drive right now, kalug thank you 19:03:16 You're welcome. 19:04:01 In the end of that link it shows how to restore previous versions. 19:06:35 ok please dont go away 19:07:25 OK. 19:08:38 i put in my flash-drive and started calc untitled doc came up and versions is grayed out should i open my saved spreadsheet now? 19:08:54 Yes. 19:09:43 Let's hope it's saving new versions when the spreadsheet is saved. 19:16:02 ohh my friend, I see the check box for always save a version on closing,unfortunately I do not have any saved, but because of you I will now save previous versions on exit. :) 19:20:25 i believe this would have saved the day, well live and learn, guess i can start using this flash drive again as there seems to be no hope other than to restore a prior saved version. 19:22:20 That's a pity. But yes, I don't think there is other way. 19:22:40 I hope everything goes well for you from today. 19:25:17 kAlug it will because of you, thanks again 19:26:18 signing off in one minute 19:28:54 pa_6808: was a pleasure to help you. 19:30:25 *** pa_6808 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 19:41:36 *** ronjn___ has quit (Quit: Rien n'est vrai. 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