00:04:42 Took some time to upload: https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6503600_7759702_084553 00:10:18 hah, nice. got a small fan? that helps, too. i had to do that with my old laptop 00:13:14 I need to check the prices. Can't spend too much ATM. 00:18:37 No, I mean like a house fan. I used to prop up my old laptop and put a fan on it when it did hard core stuff. 00:19:21 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 00:23:43 Oh, got it. I used to do it when I used Linux on my desktop (I've made a script that check the CPU's temperature and left me paranoid - I couldn't even encode an audio album). I used one the first time I built Chromium on it, too. 00:26:43 JohnTHaller: looking at the two pages of open bugs. What's the status of http://portableapps.com/node/27692 , http://portableapps.com/node/28477 (I've switched ConvertAll to PAL) , http://portableapps.com/node/29624 ? 00:29:08 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 00:31:25 None of them are critical. Just #1 needs an update to the PAF spec. 00:52:28 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 01:07:50 *** htbrdd1_ (~htbrdd@71-80-114-62.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 01:52:50 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 02:00:46 *** htbrdd1_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:17:17 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 02:35:04 *** Thasmo has quit () 02:46:23 JohnTHaller: It seems that FileClose doesn't clear the integer value on the handle variable. 02:48:03 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 03:10:45 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 03:46:11 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 03:57:41 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:58:41 hey ChrisMorgan 03:58:41 *** horusofoz2 (721e76fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.114.30.118.250) has joined #portableapps 03:58:53 Massive Spam Alert - http://portableapps.com/user/190078 03:59:26 wow 04:07:23 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 04:07:55 Any insider info up for grabs? 04:10:16 horusofoz2: What do you mean? 04:11:17 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:12:37 Any development insights? Any info on future portable associations? Updates on how close PA.com is to becoming financially self sufficient? New Apps? Just basically any news not yet published on the site. 04:16:20 I think not. You can check the IRC logs in case I've missed something: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs/?t=2011-11-04 and http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs/?t=2011-11-05 04:18:54 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: zzz... zzz... zzz...) 04:25:17 Ciao 04:25:22 *** horusofoz2 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 04:34:09 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 04:44:22 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 07:47:19 *** AlleyKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:42:14 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10:01:16 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 11:32:30 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 12:14:38 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 12:17:49 morning JohnTHaller 12:17:54 good morning 12:31:27 I find it amazing the difference in loading speed that I see on the same USB disk between XP and 7 (both on fairly recent hardware). XP will take four or five seconds and 7 will take under one second for loading the same ~25 icons (with only 19 visible). 12:31:59 Weird 12:39:57 XP was generally fairly poor with IO, but that's significantly more of a difference than I would have expected. 13:12:42 like the new site theme btw? 13:15:27 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13:48:14 *** pa_9197 (79f7fa9b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.247.250.155) has joined #portableapps 13:50:18 *** pa_9197 has quit (Client Quit) 14:45:17 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14:52:36 *** kAlug (bb653cd5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.101.60.213) has joined #portableapps 15:00:23 *** marlop (~marlop@189.114.47.103) has joined #portableapps 15:03:50 *** marlop has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:04:09 *** marlop (~marlop@189.114.47.103) has joined #portableapps 15:21:02 *** kAlug_ (bb6588b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.101.136.182) has joined #portableapps 15:21:31 JohnTHaller: For [FileWrite]:Type=ReplaceAll, do you have any objections on PathForm and Context? 15:23:39 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16:08:05 *** kAlug_ has quit (Quit: going to watch "Contagion" and "In Time") 16:34:18 *** marlop has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:53:12 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) has joined #portableapps 17:01:57 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 18:11:41 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:23:53 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 19:23:58 GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable 19:24:35 hey All 19:24:49 hola 19:25:06 How's it going? 19:25:17 Not bad. Busy busy. You? 19:26:09 Not bad. Updating a couple apps, adding to ready for release. Pretty well, a good relaxing weekend so far. 19:27:22 JohnTHaller: btw, is the release team dead (again)? 19:27:40 It's been dead since the first time it died. I tried to resurrect it and no one did anything., 19:28:25 Everyone just bickered about how was the best way to organize the team and what they should use to track progress. But almost no one actually tested anything. 19:28:49 sad. It's a good idea, just not working for whatever reason. Fortunately there's enough people checking out apps that are essentially testing everything that was supposed to be tested by the team 19:29:16 I'd be up for trying the team again, but we need someone other than me heading it and exerting some control and decision-making. 19:29:55 If you eventually decide to bring it back a third time, I'd be willing to give it a shot. I'd be willing to head it up, if needed. 19:30:15 I tried to restart it at one point but lack of interest from people wasn't doing so good 19:30:40 You're welcome to. If you want to try coming it with an organization plan and a process to follow. We can do a mailing list via SF, a public wiki page on the site, a private wiki page on the site, give folks badges on their accounts, etc. 19:31:02 There may be more interest in the coming weeks with the new releases and such. 19:31:52 like in #portableapps-dev in the topic title I had some plans setup and stuff but it just didn't get much attention, but we did talk, but that's just it it was all talk :/ 19:32:52 Maybe you two could chat about ideas and structure. If you're both interested, you guys could spear-head it. I'm willing to try just about anything you guys think could work. And we may be able to have some incentives for participation come January. 19:33:24 I think the site badge idea is a pretty good incentive 19:33:32 Agreed 19:34:44 but I think a standard should be set and I'm not talking about testing standards, more like a work like environment get so many tested or you're off the team so to speak, kind of harsh but may also get people a little more active 19:35:01 maybe more like a 3 strike rule 19:35:26 Yeah, a minimum level of participation. But maybe on a rolling monthly basis, so if people have a busy week or two, they're not kicked. 19:35:26 what do you think GordCaswell 3 times you fail to meet a quota? 19:36:08 as long as people notify if they are gonna be busy 19:36:16 I prefer JohnTHaller's idea of a monthly quota - we all know how real life can get in the way 19:36:45 true 19:39:38 FYI, i'm moving over to -dev, to free up the channel 19:40:12 You're fine here. Nothing going on. 19:40:52 K, since you're not there, I'll repost what i wrote: something like 2 apps tested a week, -if- there's enough in the pipeline at the time. Starting with the "ready for release" apps, and going from there through the Dev Test page. 19:42:22 I just noticed there is like 3 pages of comments in the dev test page too just going through them now 19:42:31 JohnTHaller: can a flag get set on the dev test page to allow comments to be deleted by developers? There's currently 3 pages of comments, and all have been added, AFAIK 19:42:44 I can easily delete them 19:43:07 Oh, right, you're a mod 19:43:20 I'm going through them now to make sure which ones are good and what aren't and once everything checks out I'll remove them but yeah if Gord can have permissions on that page that can help some too 19:43:54 Not at the moment. Drupal's permissions aren't that fine grained. There is a module I'm looking at that will allow it but I don't want to implement it until the Drupal 7 upgrade. 19:44:24 ZachThibeau: re: a better submission process: What about a webform-type setup for submissions? 19:45:03 We'd need someone to code it. As a Drupal add-on 19:45:10 sounds like an idea, maybe one that can notify of a new submission via email 19:45:24 (someone = not me) 19:45:53 So right now, the only way to get further permissions on that page is moderator status, correct? 19:46:04 I would try but my php is next to zero, 19:47:40 Not full mod. But full comment mod, as in sitewide comment add/edit/delete, yes 19:48:35 hmm I just thought of an idea for the test page, John, the comment module can they be adjusted by page or are they global settings only? 19:48:42 global 19:48:49 everything in Drupal is global 19:48:53 that shoots my idea then 19:49:33 You can define different page types and give those nodes specfic rights. Like I created a wiki type and gave all devs edit access and added on the revision module to track revision. But that has no affect on comment rights. 19:50:21 I was thinking of setting the comments on the dev test page as approval required that way one has to check the que and add the apps that way but that has some draw backs I suppose thinking more on it 19:53:43 hmmm time to search drupals site for some ideas 19:54:12 Yeah, I'm searching it now, The best I've come up with so far is using webform in some way 19:54:47 I may take another stab at Drupal 7 tomorrow. We'll see where we are. 19:54:57 the only way would to embedd html into the page and that's not always the best way 19:56:02 Using Issue tracker may make sense after the D7 upgrade 19:56:25 that's sounds pretty good 19:56:50 can be used for commenting to the user what needs to be changed in their application and could be used for the release team page too 19:57:57 We can do custom views to show stuff, too. A queue of apps. What's in progress. And I think Issues allows more fine-grained rights access. 19:58:12 We're gonna be switching to it for bug tracking, too. 19:58:19 yeah that sounds like exactly what we need 19:58:33 Yeah, sounds perfect 19:59:13 really gotta get that upgrade done then 20:00:10 which drupal module is it JohnTHaller? I see a few issue trackers on drupal.org, Just want to check it out a little 20:04:19 the one drup[al.org uses 20:05:46 oh, ok. in that case, I believe drupal.org is still on 6.x, because the project module isn't updated yet, or the issue tracker module 20:10:17 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-4d06a82f.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 20:13:51 brb 20:14:09 eating some supper 20:14:21 I've gotta go, guys, gotta watch my kids for a while. Be back later. Looks like -dev isn't logging anymore after all, so if either of you have any further thoughts, I'll be checking the logs. ZachThibeau: I'm writing a draft "release team" guidelines - I'll ping you later with it 20:17:19 *** GordCaswell is now known as GordCaswell|AFK 20:23:13 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 20:36:58 *** GordCaswell|AFK has quit (Quit: Leaving) 20:42:42 back 22:24:29 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 22:34:58 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 23:01:12 *** Bensawsome has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 23:02:50 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@c-71-235-5-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 23:02:50 Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats 23:02:53 *** Bensawsome is now known as Guest91834 23:46:51 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK