00:33:10 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 01:05:23 *** pa_4013 (57c23c0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.194.60.15) has joined #portableapps 01:07:33 Portable Apps 10 will not load onto my USB as my Sophus antivirus software keeps detecting a virus even when I turn Sophos off 01:09:08 Can anyone advise what I might try? 01:11:05 Mir 01:12:45 HELP as above 01:18:57 *** pa_4013 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 01:19:17 why the fuck do they call my name out 01:19:23 why? 01:19:29 T-T 01:25:45 :D 01:26:55 sup agdurrette 01:27:02 *** agdurrette is now known as pa_4013 01:27:08 D: 01:27:13 Mir can you help? 01:27:22 *** pa_4013 is now known as agdurrette 01:27:23 yes 01:27:33 what tentecle monstor do you want :D 01:27:42 he he he he 01:28:45 O.0 01:35:31 *** pa_2507 (474d3aa2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.77.58.162) has joined #portableapps 01:38:01 *** sar3th has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:40:10 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) has joined #portableapps 02:00:04 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a5b86.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 02:04:42 *** kAlug (bb658a0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.101.138.13) has joined #portableapps 02:05:00 pa_2507: Do you need help? 02:05:53 hi kAlug 02:06:00 keep up the good work :) 02:06:48 *** agdurrette is now known as agdurrette_znc 02:06:48 hi AlleyKat 02:06:53 Thanks 02:17:33 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away 02:37:26 *** pa_2507 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 02:37:46 *** kAlug|Away is now known as kAlug 02:41:49 hello ChrisMorgan 02:42:15 seems I'm diving into python programming now 02:45:29 wow... hello ChrisMorgan 02:45:46 Yeah, yeah... 02:45:48 I haven't noticed you. 02:45:51 I know, I know... 02:48:25 * ZachThibeau notices 02:49:39 ChrisMorgan: yeah I'm diving into python as I now working as project maintainer for keryx now since Chris Oliver doesn't have enough time for it, so I guess I'm becoming a jack of all trades, master of none 02:50:48 ZachThibeau: Remember when I said yesterday that I was going to make PuTTY truly portable? 02:50:59 kAlug: any success? 02:51:24 Well... it was a lot easier than I first thought. 02:51:30 cool 02:51:41 I suggest making a patch and sending it to the original developer 02:52:10 Yes, unlike others, I tried to make it in such a way it can be added to the original code. 02:54:55 kAlug: what do you mean by making it truly portable? 02:55:29 ChrisMorgan: making it write to an ini file instead of the windows registry 02:55:37 Thanks Zach 02:55:39 I thought that most likely. Good idea. 02:56:35 And also make the INI and the random seed file located (sic?) by environment variables. 02:56:53 kAlug: attempt that with 7-Zip next :P 02:57:44 Let me check if the code is available online... 02:58:12 I hope the environment variables are prefixed with "PuTTY" or similar? 02:58:30 hmm speaking of which code, I wonder if John Bently ever worked on Xenon 2.0 more? 02:59:14 Yep. PUTTY_CONFIG_FILE and PUTTY_RANDOM_SEED_FILE, IIRC. 03:01:01 Hmm... we have a problem: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/wishlist/config-locations.html 03:06:48 Do you folks think we should care with sysadmin's preferences with regards to portable apps? 03:09:39 ChrisMorgan: http://portableapps.com/node/29458#comment-187415 03:10:52 probably wouldn't hurt to try 03:11:11 and probably get's your patch more accepted if done that way 03:13:37 *** tripflex (~tripflex@108-199-137-149.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 03:13:41 aloha! 03:13:57 is there a way to add standalone installed apps to the portableapps menu? 03:14:11 http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps 03:15:07 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 03:15:12 GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable 03:16:01 yeah i tried that 03:16:13 portable apps is installed to x:/portableapps/ 03:16:18 hello GordCaswell 03:16:21 all the standlone ones i installed where installed under that directory 03:16:31 so x:/portableapps/app1 03:16:36 did you refresh the platform 03:16:36 but when i refresh nothing shows up 03:16:43 hi kAlug 03:16:43 interesting 03:16:44 i used the "refresh icons" 03:16:59 Where is the executable file? 03:17:13 just a for instance 03:17:14 F:\PortableApps\DiffpdfPortable 03:17:26 the .exe is in that folder 03:18:08 Hmm... odd. What version of the Platform are you using? 03:18:11 is there another way to refresh? 03:18:22 latest version just downloaded it today 03:18:27 close and restarting the paltform 03:18:31 got my new 64gb flash drive :D 03:18:32 **platform 03:20:36 http://prntscr.com/4iz2s 03:20:40 tried but didn't work 03:20:52 maybe i need to put it in the root of the flash drive? 03:22:54 ahaha durrrr 03:22:59 i think i know why 03:23:39 yeah i got it 03:23:45 tripflex: you've installed to X:\PortableApps. You should have installed to X:. 03:23:47 haha because i didn't put it under root of flash 03:23:49 yeah 03:24:03 so i put everything under f:\portableapps\portableapps\ 03:24:04 and it worked 03:24:07 :-\ 03:24:25 how can i keep this directory structure and have PA autostart? 03:26:19 autostart has been disabled by Microsoft 03:26:34 under windows vista through 7 (and with a certain update for xp) autostart yes as GordCaswell said it's disabled 03:29:42 kAlug: on the PuTTY config matter, I'd say for submitting an initial patch start with it just using disk if you tell it to. That way it won't interfere at all, leaving the field open for further improvements in line with that wishlist entry. 03:30:16 kAlug: can you join -ot or -dev? 03:32:56 *** GordCaswell is now known as GordCaswell|AFK 03:33:18 ChrisMorgan: The current patch uses a compile-time choice. I'll eventually need to work on a new abstraction layer to handle multiple config sources. I'll put this info in the patch. 03:33:29 hm that's stupid 03:33:34 just another reason for me to not like MS 03:33:55 there's gotta be a way around it 03:34:08 tripflex: it's for security. 03:39:35 ChrisMorgan: I've .NET support for PAL ready. However, I wanted to do some reorganization in the header files in Other\Source before landing it, allowing us mainly to distinguish those we maintain from those from external sources. 03:40:21 Shifting them to an Includes directory? 03:41:08 Yes. And Somehow marking them. See the link I posted before. 03:41:33 I think just having a single extra Includes directory is enough. 03:41:41 What do you reckon about ones like CheckForPlatformSplashDisable.nsh, though? 03:42:30 One sec, I'll switch to my notebook. 03:42:32 *** kAlug has quit () 03:45:16 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.101.138.13) has joined #portableapps 03:45:21 *** GordCaswell|AFK is now known as GordCaswell 03:46:01 kAlug: I'm just heading off now to get cheese and bread for lunch, should be back in under an hour. I say largely go ahead. 03:46:13 OK. 03:55:48 *** Bensawsome has quit (Quit: OBAI D:) 03:56:05 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@c-71-235-5-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:56:05 Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats 03:56:19 *** Bensawsome is now known as Guest91035 04:20:07 Did someone here get the PortableApps.com newsletter already? 04:21:10 yep 04:21:52 looks like straight plaintext 04:22:39 you haven't got it yet? 04:26:43 Nope 04:27:16 ping me with your email, and i'll forward it 04:31:53 kAlug: you are subscribed, I presume? 04:33:09 IDK. The subscriptions page was empty for me the last time I checked. 04:36:15 Ah. Finally found the newsletter. Thought it was connected with my account. 04:36:39 http://portableapps.com/user/161787/edit/newsletter - you are subscribed. 04:37:04 Just enabled it. 04:38:25 Ah. 04:39:51 It's a bit confusing... never saw that tab before, else I would have enabled it. 04:40:38 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 04:40:51 hi vf2nsr 04:41:05 HI GordCaswell 04:41:37 how's it going? 04:41:40 ltns hope all is well 04:41:44 kAlug: it's been there for several years. 04:42:00 not bad sittin ghere and in the voice chat I work/volunteer for 04:42:11 seems slow on both lol 04:43:13 dropped by oping to catch John 04:43:24 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Venusaur 04:44:31 *hoping 04:45:05 vf2nsr: sorry, he just went offline a few minutes ago (not that he'd been in the channel). 04:45:44 ok 04:46:30 I hang for a few 04:47:10 ChrisMorgan: found 14 headers in PAL which can be made reusable. I think we could create a new project for them. 04:47:29 Which ones? 04:50:16 ChrisMorgan: if you see/hear from him can you ask him to check the red notebook thread I was trying to fix an issue the he wanted done quickly but was unable to so he said he would, was just checking since I stoppped trying not sure if he wants me to keep at it? Or if he ist still going to 04:50:18 thanks 04:50:26 gtg other chat demanding me 04:50:30 vf2nsr: I would expect that he has seen it. 04:50:42 ok did not see a response but htanks 04:50:49 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:52:04 NullByte (by forum member - BFM), ProcFunc (BFM), ReplaceInFileWithTextReplace (John), RequireLatestNSIS, SetEnvironmentVariable, SetFileAttributesDirectoryNormal (origin?), TrimWhite, CallAnsiPlugin (BFM), CheckForPlatformSplashDisable (John), EmptyWorkingSet, FEIP, FEP, MyXML, NewTextReplace (BFM) 04:52:17 *** tripflex has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:53:48 SetFileAttributesDirectoryNormal.nsh is old live mode code from NSIS launchers days. 04:55:01 RequireLatestNSIS.nsh is one I did, based directly on what I wrote for Inkscape (packaging/win32/RequireLatestNSIS.nsh in its repository) 04:56:00 MyXML.nsh requires XML.nsh 04:56:07 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:56:45 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.11.100.171) has joined #portableapps 04:58:19 I should delete Other/Source/TextFunc.nsh, NSIS Portable (Unicode) includes it now. 04:59:02 And Registry.nsh. 04:59:12 Registry.nsh we need to keep, upstream doesn't have the MoveKey fix. 04:59:31 Ah, OK. 04:59:51 So, what about moving those headers to a separate project and keeping here just those we need? 05:00:22 I don't think it adds value. Separate directory is good, but separate project is a waste of time. 05:01:38 It makes working with PAL harder. And it is generally unlikely that people will need them, and even if they do, they can get them easily from the PAL repo. 05:01:56 Modularity is not an end in itself. 05:03:56 OK. I'll see that later. It can be a project of my own. 05:04:06 Now, what is PAL 2.2 status? 05:04:12 I don't want them taken out of the PAL tree. 05:04:28 I didn't say that. 05:05:40 NewTextReplace.nsh is also correct in NSIS now. 05:07:15 ... but I don't see ReplaceInFileWithTextReplace.nsh, which it depends on :-/ 05:23:05 ChrisMorgan: what is the overall status of PAL 2.2? 05:23:28 I need to get back to it. 05:26:55 *** kAlug2 (~kalug@187.57.2.109) has joined #portableapps 05:27:15 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05:27:38 *** kAlug2 is now known as kAlug 05:38:39 *** Bivor (~Bivor@58.97.220.18) has joined #portableapps 05:39:18 *** Bivor has parted #portableapps (None) 05:40:28 kAlug: it's appinfo.ini, not AppInfo.ini. 05:41:07 And "unique"? Perhaps "unique (theoretically)"! 05:44:19 I'd says it's a MUST (as per RFC 2119). The updater depends on it. 05:48:57 Anything else? 06:00:26 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: sleep time) 06:22:20 *** need_help (dfb772f7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.183.114.247) has joined #portableapps 06:22:26 Hello room\ 06:22:43 need help here.....anyone? 06:22:51 hello need_help can we help ypu? 06:23:48 *** need_help has quit (Client Quit) 06:36:17 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving) 07:13:51 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 08:09:53 *** Fangles (caa110c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.161.16.199) has joined #portableapps 09:02:40 *** AlleyKat has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 09:23:23 *** Fangles has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 11:26:44 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 12:39:57 *** pa_1264 (57c23c0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.194.60.15) has joined #portableapps 12:40:38 Help! Portable Apps 10 will not load on my USB 12:45:15 pa_1264: what do you mean? 12:46:17 oh hi i was not sure if this was working 12:47:58 I have downloaded latest binary file, just over 3meg but when I install on my memory stick there are no applications in the left hand panel and nothing has been installed 12:48:38 programme install very quickly so something is going wrong 12:49:14 pa_1264: what you installed is just the Platform. It doesn't include any apps. 12:49:20 I'm running win 7 64 bit, 12:49:46 ok chris how do I install the apps? 12:49:48 You get to choose what you want to install - click on the Apps button, Get More Apps... and you're ready to choose! 12:50:08 Or, select them from http://portableapps.com/apps 12:50:38 last time i did this it was so easy as all programmes were installed with one click at the beginning 12:51:33 thanks chris I will try again using your advice 12:51:44 We used to include some apps, but now that we've got the means of letting the user select and download what they want easily, we've left off including apps. 12:51:49 Enjoy! 12:52:48 Great Thanks This support works really well too 12:53:26 *** pa_1264 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 12:59:27 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs84248.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 13:25:32 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 14:05:07 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14:17:47 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15:51:34 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 17:03:08 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 18:50:27 *** MaienM has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:47:21 *** Venusaur is now known as Suiseiseki 20:32:57 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 21:03:39 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 21:23:15 *** Fireuser (4396087d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.150.8.125) has joined #portableapps 21:24:20 I have been on before due to a plugin for Firefox. Chrome has built in Flash plugin and i want it to work in Firefox. 21:25:32 i use this support because i have had great experiences, even though it is not necessarily a problem with a portable app. i am running FirefoxPortable though. 21:54:06 *** ptmb (~Jose@a85-139-195-133.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 21:54:06 ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic... 22:01:50 *** kAlug (bd2f3aad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.47.58.173) has joined #portableapps 22:02:20 Fireuser: What exactly do you want? 22:06:29 i wand instructions on how to take the DLL file and implement it into Firefox so that it runs on it's own adobe flash, not the one specific to each computer. 22:07:11 what do u mean, gizmobot? 22:08:18 Just ignore it. 22:08:58 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 22:09:03 kk. so what do i do with the .dll? 22:09:10 Copy the file C:\Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll to FirefoxPortable\Data\Plugins. 22:10:23 it is there now, but nothing changed. 22:10:57 Hmm... try coping it to App\Firefox\Plugins instead. 22:12:36 kk. restart, or just check the plugins section of the addons window? 22:13:44 Restart. 22:16:02 what will it be titled in the plugins window? 22:16:54 *** Zarggg has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22:17:23 Check the file path for the Adobe Flash plugin. 22:17:28 "To show the full path to the plugin instead of just the file name, type about:config in the address bar and press the Enter key. Find the preference plugin.expose_full_path and change the value to true (double-clicking the preference name will toggle the setting). Caution: Exposing the full plugin path can have security implications on some systems. It's best to reset the preference to the default "false" value when you are done 22:19:09 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) has joined #portableapps 22:23:30 kk just toggled it. now what? 22:23:58 Check if the file path for the Adobe Flash plugin matches the one it's supposed to be. 22:24:24 what do u mean by that? what is it supposed to be vs. what it is? 22:24:50 It should be ...\FirefoxPortable\App\Firefox\Plugins\NPSWF32.dll. 22:26:20 it is in that directory. 22:27:05 Then it's done. 22:27:31 in about:addons, i dont see it 22:27:56 in the plugins section, it isnt listed 22:28:32 if i restart, will this chatbox still be open? 22:29:51 No. You'll have to reopen it. 22:31:16 how? i tried that before and i had to make a completely new one. 22:32:20 Open this after you restart Firefox: http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=Fireuser&channels=portableapps 22:33:23 kk back soon 22:33:38 *** Fireuser has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:38:19 *** Fireuser (4396087d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.150.8.125) has joined #portableapps 22:38:43 still no change that i can see. 22:39:09 Hmm... open about:plugins and check if Adobe Flash is listed. 22:40:49 no not that i can see. 22:41:37 it lists a couple shockwave flash players but not adobe... do i need to rename anything? 22:42:28 Nope, just check these players. 22:42:47 Check if the path for any one of them is ...\FirefoxPortable\App\Firefox\Plugins\NPSWF32.dll. 22:44:27 File: G:\Programs\Portable\FirefoxPortable\App\firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.dll Version: 9.0.28.0 Shockwave Flash 9.0 r28 this is it. the drive is G for my flash drive so i think this is it. how do i test to see if this is it and it actually works? 22:46:53 http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ 22:48:29 kAlug, you have been extremely helpful, i may be on some other time under this nickname and channel. i have to go. thank you for all of your help. 22:49:05 You're welcome. I have to go too. 22:49:16 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:49:34 *** Fireuser has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:54:39 *** pa_4394 (3fe8d382@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.232.211.130) has joined #portableapps 22:55:13 *** pa_4394 has quit (Client Quit) 23:00:56 *** pa_3990 (3fe8d382@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.232.211.130) has joined #portableapps 23:02:03 quick question - added a pic to the upper right corner of the interface...it's throwing read errors 00680043...can you help me remove the pic...it's a privileged operation 23:15:36 *** pa_3990 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23:31:09 *** george2 (405d7e95@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.93.126.149) has joined #portableapps 23:31:26 Anybody ever heard of a company called Granite Digital? 23:32:26 *** kAlug (bb390d64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.57.13.100) has joined #portableapps 23:32:55 george2: No. Researching now. Why? 23:33:37 I'm just trying to find out about them. They have a thingy I want, but I'm not sure if its a company I should trust. 23:33:45 Seems to be mostly good reviews 23:34:12 I'm looking for a usb to sata/ide adapter that works with linux. 23:35:24 So far the only ones I can find that look halfway decent are Bytecc and Granite Digital. 23:39:12 I hate buying stuff online. I'll be going to Colo. Springs next week sometime, maybe I'll just try to find some computer store there. Best buy and radioshack don't seem to have much at all. 23:48:46 You'd think more people would have one of these. Surely there's some big brand somewhere that sells them.