00:06:30 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a5b86.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 00:35:24 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 00:36:07 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:16:38 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:27:55 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:38:57 *** kAlug_ (~kalug@187.57.15.104) has joined #portableapps 02:41:48 *** pa_5149 (43a864fb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.168.100.251) has joined #portableapps 02:46:14 *** pa_5149 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 03:01:08 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: Power-idling in 59 channels on 12 networks.) 03:13:07 *** kAlug_ has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 03:49:53 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 03:49:58 GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable 04:12:51 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 04:25:49 *** MaienM has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04:53:40 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving) 05:42:04 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 07:24:38 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs84248.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 08:33:18 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 09:26:11 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 10:05:15 *** pa_6482 (c3c8462d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.200.70.45) has joined #portableapps 10:06:21 *** pa_6482 has quit (Client Quit) 10:56:50 *** MaienM (~MaienM@ip545597ca.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) has joined #portableapps 10:56:50 *** MaienM has quit (Changing host) 10:56:50 *** MaienM (~MaienM@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 11:00:07 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 11:59:54 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs84248.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 13:03:03 *** Enim (adef9422@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.148.34) has joined #portableapps 13:06:21 Just wondering if PortableApps is bootable or has the potential of being so? 13:12:11 No, it doesn't have such potential. 13:15:07 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:31:46 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@clsm-66-33-237-223-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 13:31:46 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Changing host) 13:31:46 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 13:50:39 ok, thanks for the quick response. I love this tool box though, it is truly awesome. 13:56:18 Nice to hear that. :) 13:57:17 *** pa_1644 (4d7cf9e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.124.249.233) has joined #portableapps 13:57:46 someone can help me? 13:58:20 Depends on which kind of help you need. ;) 13:58:53 i want to install another app on my portableApps 14:00:05 The instructions are here: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps 14:00:11 i can download software(not from PortableApps.com) and install it on the platform 14:00:24 ? 14:01:01 That link leads to instructions to add other (i.e. non-PA) applications to the menu. 14:02:58 thanks 14:03:05 good day 14:03:15 You're welcome. :) 14:05:57 *** pa_1644 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 14:18:06 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14:42:00 *** Enim has quit (Quit: Page closed) 15:09:19 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 15:47:12 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit () 15:53:30 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 17:04:29 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs84248.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 17:30:46 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-33-68-66.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 18:24:34 *** pa_7339 (44c9662c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.201.102.44) has joined #portableapps 18:25:08 help. how do i check my current version of portableapps? 18:25:09 pa_7339: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 18:25:54 in the platform go to apps and the check for updates 18:26:48 i see...thank you. very much appreciated..bye now.. 18:27:11 *** pa_7339 has quit (Client Quit) 19:11:50 *** kAlug_ (~kalug@187.101.137.13) has joined #portableapps 19:18:35 *** kAlug_2 (~kalug@187.101.137.13) has joined #portableapps 19:18:47 *** kAlug_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:18:47 *** kAlug_2 is now known as kAlug 19:53:59 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 20:06:42 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 20:12:31 *** Simeon1 (~simeon@dslb-094-218-254-243.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 20:12:45 hi all 20:13:52 hi Simeon1 20:14:09 Where is Simeon0? 20:14:33 lost in digital nirvana :) 20:16:38 What's up? 20:38:40 *** pa_7065 (59e50fc0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.229.15.192) has joined #portableapps 20:39:19 hello there 20:39:25 *** pa_7065 has quit (Client Quit) 20:40:57 hello... 20:45:36 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 20:50:56 *** pa_8868 (59e50fc0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.229.15.192) has joined #portableapps 20:51:20 help! 20:51:20 pa_8868: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 20:51:39 is there anyone who can respond me officially 20:51:44 hello by the way ;) 20:52:28 can I have legally two instances of an application in use (by 1 person) I mean eg.g. 20:52:57 Mozailla Firefox stationary on my PC *AND* portable on my USB whateer 20:53:05 *device 20:54:17 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 20:54:24 or (in this case) LibraOffice on my PC *AND* LibraOffice Portable 3.4.4. on my USB at the same time 20:55:25 I mean, two instances, two "packages" o the same program (is it really the same?) when it comes to LibraOffice and Libra Office Prtable 20:55:43 summarizing: 20:56:06 Mozilla cant do that portably. 20:56:30 Question: Can I use (have) e.g. Libra Office on my PC and Libra Office Portable on my USB (or other device) simulateously, at the same time? 20:56:48 Simeon1: Alright. You mean that Mozilla doesn't allow that 20:57:17 I mean you can have only one 'instance' of Mozilla Firefox, so to speak, like 'in use' 20:57:24 ? 20:57:36 Normally, Mozilla can only do one instance. there is a setting for firefox to do more but some things can be left behind. 20:58:01 I dont know it offhand, you'd have to check the forums. 20:58:05 So you can have only Mozilla on your PC *OR* Mozilla Portable which you take with you on USB 20:58:06 aha 20:58:15 that's what I thought ;) 20:58:55 yes. 20:59:04 What I mean is if it's justifiable by the particular Licences to do that 20:59:48 maybe that's pretty obvious 20:59:51 what I meant: there are ways if you desperately want to but normally there is no need. 21:00:14 if it's Open Sorce it would be obvious that possibly you can 21:00:17 there are no licenses preventing you from doing that - its more the way Firefox is coded. 21:00:37 mhm 21:00:50 umm. interesting. could you explain this? 21:01:45 I mean with the way that Firefox is coded 21:02:30 if you desperately want to Simeon1 that made my day 21:02:58 no. unfortunately I cant explain as I have no idea about coding. 21:03:06 ok. 21:03:53 so you... I get it, you're talking about a stituation in which yu have installed Mozilla Firefox on your PC 21:04:13 and simulateously you are trying to run a Portable Firefox on that PC 21:04:21 that wouldn't work yes? 21:04:57 there would be some kind of conflict 21:06:11 yes. 21:06:33 the portable verions launcher is set to warn you if you start it while another instance is running. 21:06:48 it just doesnt let you start the second instance. 21:07:13 Oh right. 21:07:41 Thanks you very much Simeon1. 21:08:16 Now the thing is this: is it legally justfied (if it's not forbidden by the Licence - I think it's not) to 21:08:47 have two installments of e.g. Libra Office and Libra Office Portable in use by one person 21:09:06 i mean one person (like me) using two ... umm, programs 21:09:11 is that right? 21:09:27 simultaniously? 21:09:47 let me put it this way 21:10:39 Situation: I download Libra Office (stationary) and Libra Office Portable and I want to use both "versions": one when I work at home (stationary) and one when I travel (Libra Office Portable) 21:10:44 is thata right? 21:10:48 yes. 21:11:02 and as long as you use them separately, everything will be clean. 21:11:04 Maybe it's just a stupid question, and an answer comes just yes 21:11:16 heh:) 21:11:22 separately 21:11:47 separately= one after the other. 21:12:10 I think if one is started and you try to open a document, it uses the running instance. 21:12:36 so legally I'm an owner hmm of two programs, is it legally right to use them both (like one edition wouldn't be satisfactory to me) that's the problem for me 21:12:45 ah ok I get it 21:13:05 they are open source. noone stops you from installing 55 copies :) 21:13:10 so when it comes to instances running, they may be conflicting. 21:13:24 That's what I thought initially 21:13:35 you know, maybe 21:14:07 it's the thing that I can hardly believe it that such software az this is comes for free 21:14:16 that's wonderful if it's true 21:14:29 it is true. 21:14:40 thats one of the advantzages of open source software. 21:14:57 I mean, Open Source, after all that commercial stuff (not saying names) would be completely topping the day off 21:15:14 I'm new to this stuff. so I ask questions. 21:15:18 and if you check out the wealth of different open source software that exists. 21:15:22 ;) 21:15:41 wow 21:15:44 yeah sure 21:15:47 I didnt know you were new to tis... 21:16:00 I mean, so far I have used Mozilla Firefox and Open Office 21:16:21 yes I am 21:16:36 freeware is free too but open source has the advantage that you can change/see the sourcecode of the programs if you want. 21:16:40 talking about this campaign on browser choosing 21:16:47 europe? 21:16:50 I think it's allabout consciousness right 21:17:07 people probably sometimes don't even know that Open Source exists 21:17:12 yes. 21:17:21 yup. how'd you guess 21:17:36 I even have a full free operating system (Ubuntu) :) 21:17:48 yeah Im considering that one 21:18:07 it looks like Mitsubishi GT 3000 :) 21:18:13 ? 21:18:15 or sth like that xD 21:18:41 hmm? 21:18:53 there are a lot more open source programs other than Open office or mozilla apps but those are 2 of the most well known ones. 21:19:07 ah I see :) 21:19:20 nice ones, should I say... 21:19:36 for a small list you can check the one at portableapps.com/apps :) 21:19:52 we have a lot of some popular open source apps available 21:19:59 so this new Libra Office, just downloaded, looking forward to try it 21:20:04 hmm 21:20:15 its basically open office. 21:20:27 yeah, but suppose it looks better. 21:20:49 and what about the Word conversion format, i think they've upgraded it no? 21:21:16 I mean all this stuff with fonts and all 21:21:23 yes. Word 2010 (maybe 2008 too) uses docx as a format. 21:21:34 esp. Word 2007 21:21:36 and later 21:21:39 yea 21:21:57 but openoffice can open it too. (more or less) 21:22:12 some not-so-normal formatting may be screwed up a bit 21:22:13 I was hoping to work on a Word document today 21:22:32 and I opened it in Open Office 3.x 21:22:42 did it work? 21:22:44 well that wasn't really thesame exact document :) 21:23:08 the fonts were changed, the layout wasn't exactly the same 21:23:14 lists sometimes get scrambled.. 21:23:24 and some trouble with tables I guess 21:23:36 yes, thism lists. 21:23:52 *lists got scrambled. 21:23:55 :) 21:24:26 I'm hoping Libra Office will get over this prob 21:24:42 well Microsoft is kinda smart aren't they 21:24:44 it might be better. 21:25:11 even the fonts are somewhat licensed are they? 21:25:42 and they changed them around the 2007 version of Word, and now again? 21:25:46 but microsofts format (how they save what) is proprietary, meaning they dont publish it so its hard for people like the open office guys to figure it out. 21:26:09 that's what i'm saying 21:26:11 yes 21:26:18 very smart . 21:26:19 I dont know about the fonts. 21:26:28 check wikipedia for that :) 21:26:43 hmm I was digging up the OpenOffice Ninja blog ot sth like this 21:27:18 and they said like the font package is too somehow a part of the Microsoft Word product 21:27:32 and sice it is, it cannot be copied 21:27:51 so the guys from Fedora were inventing these new fonts 21:28:17 yes. I think you can copy them from your systems font folder but I dont know if its legal to reuse them. 21:28:21 to fit shapes, dimensions, spaces etc. like in Microsoft 21:28:31 in order to fix the conversion problem 21:28:38 sounds resonable 21:28:54 yea. check this out:: 21:29:00 [quote]: 21:29:57 it's about some project named Liberation Fonts by RedHat 21:30:28 quote: "In May of 2007, Red Hat announced its Liberation Fonts in response to "proprietary fonts present[ing] a barrier to truly open documents in that Microsoft will not license others to redistribute [their popular] fonts." These fonts are metric equivalents: "the fonts assume the identical horizontal spacing as the Microsoft fonts such that, when substituted for the Microsoft fonts, a line of text is identically displayed."" 21:30:49 the whole article is very interesting 21:30:57 got a link? 21:31:23 yep 21:31:27 just a sec 21:32:03 link: [http://www.oooninja.com/2008/02/metrical-equivalent-fonts-and-font.html] 21:32:16 that's kinda funny 21:32:39 they're trying to overcome Microft in all possible manners I think 21:32:51 *Microsoft 21:33:05 and the guy's quotation is just about right 21:33:56 quote: "Microsoft will not license others to redistribute" so that's a part of a business 21:35:14 yes. 21:35:15 so fonts are part of Microsoft's distribute package 21:35:22 gotta go now. Bye 21:35:23 and you cannot take them away 21:36:03 necause they would be likely to sue you 21:36:16 *** Simeon1 has parted #portableapps (None) 21:36:17 yea thanks for the healp. thanks! 21:36:18 bye 21:36:45 *** pa_8868 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:10:14 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:18:28 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit () 22:37:34 *** agdurrette_znc is now known as agdurrette 22:55:55 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 23:12:47 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:20:08 *** agdurrette has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:21:57 *** Raccoonnookkeepe (43acbd96@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.172.189.150) has joined #portableapps 23:23:29 *** Guest91035 is now known as Bensawsome 23:23:29 *** Bensawsome has quit (Changing host) 23:23:29 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 23:23:32 Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats 23:27:02 * Raccoonnookkeepe Upon starting the new (10.0.1) platform, the auto-updater started and during the update of several apps gave error messages. After the first few, of which I took screen shots, I stopped the process. I am looking for the place to post my report and screen shots of the error messages I received. 23:31:47 Bensawsome: Hello. 23:32:34 *** agdurrette_znc (~agdurrett@static.186.174.47.78.clients.your-server.de) has joined #portableapps 23:32:55 *** agdurrette_znc is now known as agdurrette 23:33:20 agdurrette_znc: Hello. 23:33:50 agdurrette: Hello. 23:35:11 *** Raccoonnookkeepe has quit (Quit: Page closed) 23:40:45 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.57.15.20) has joined #portableapps 23:50:14 *** AlleyKat has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23:50:57 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps