00:30:10 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 01:13:17 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@static.186.174.47.78.clients.your-server.de) has joined #portableapps 01:13:18 agdurrette is awesome! nuff said. 01:20:57 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: Power-idling in 59 channels on 12 networks.) 02:05:37 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 02:41:53 *** sar3th has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 02:49:10 *** PlauSocks is now known as SlauPocks 02:49:16 *** SlauPocks is now known as PlauSocks 03:13:27 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:50:28 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:46:16 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.57.0.230) has joined #portableapps 06:22:55 kAlug: "... or visit update.microsoft.com ..." - should include http:// 06:23:32 It's not a link. I don't think it will make any difference. 06:23:48 And I didn't wrote that. Just copied it. 06:23:50 I think it should be included because that's what identifies it as a web reference. 06:24:39 As for Ghostscript, I note mentioning generating PDFs in your translation; why is that there? It's not what Ghostscript will always be used for. 06:25:25 Ghostscript is used for importing things as well as exporting, and not just PDF. 06:25:54 People have a notion on what Java is, but Ghostscript? I had to put a small description in there. Any suggestions? 06:26:24 I don't think it needs a description. Just an instruction. 06:26:46 It's not likely that we'll have many that *require* Ghostscript without it being fairly obvious. 06:26:57 And the Platform should manage the dependency at some time. 06:27:30 *** PlauSocks is now known as PlauSocks|AFK 06:27:35 About this last, I though on start deprecating the [Activate] session for that. See Java and .NET currently. 06:27:50 s/session/section/ 06:29:59 Good work on the manual and 2.2 -> 3.0 rebranding. 06:30:32 OBTW, I need to add |wildcards| to FileWrite:File. 06:31:52 What do you mean that ${DebugMsg} won't work in a function? I can't think of anything that should stop it. 06:32:15 IIRC, it's undefined. 06:32:38 Undefined? How so? 06:33:04 Invalid command: ${DebugMsg} 06:33:23 That sounds very strange. 06:33:42 Indeed. 06:33:46 BTW, "File 'L:\PortableApps\NSISPortable\App\NSIS\Contrib\Language files\Sundanese.nlf' has no BOM and does not validate as UTF-8." 06:34:08 Nuthin' to do wi' me ;-) 06:34:16 And something funny in the end of the log: "剅佒㩒䴠歡乥䥓⁓硥瑩摥眠瑩⁨瑳瑡獵挠摯⁥റ" 06:35:17 'ERROR: MakeNSIS exited with status code 1\r' 06:35:57 I recognised that at once as a symptom of a long-standing Windows Unicode-detection bug. Observe: u"剅佒㩒䴠歡乥䥓⁓硥瑩摥眠瑩⁨瑳瑡獵挠摯⁥റ".encode('utf-16le') 06:36:46 \x00? 06:36:59 ? 06:37:02 Wait, its ?\x00 06:37:13 Lots of them. 06:37:22 b'?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00?\x00' 06:37:43 Ah, you're trying to stuff it into an Incompetent Terminal which Can't Cope with Unicode Characters. 06:38:41 Anyway, that's what it is. For more information about the bug, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_hid_the_facts 06:40:33 When you're working on XP you hit that bug occasionally. 06:40:52 Once when I was helping the head tech support guy in the Faculty of IT 06:41:07 I pointed that to you a few months ago. And I'm you 7. But still, it's a very interesting bug. 06:41:33 Once when I was helping the head tech support guy in the Faculty of IT at my Uni we came across it when opening one of the startup bat files... 06:41:47 Hmm... I just found that Python doesn't support Windows UTF-8 (ie CP65001). 06:43:16 BTW, can you rename forum accounts? 06:43:56 Yep 06:44:24 http://portableapps.com/node/30203 06:44:42 And I found the reason DebugMsg is undefined. 06:49:52 What is it? 06:50:40 Segments.nsh is included before Debug.nsh. 06:51:27 Waal, seems to me that's easy to fix. 06:51:35 Already done. 06:51:45 Good, good :-) 06:53:20 Wait, I *really* forgot to run the Ghostscript segment? :-/ 06:54:42 I can tell I'm getting old ;-) 06:57:45 Do you mind if I change the version in appinfo.ini between releases? 06:58:52 To 2.65534.65532.0/3.0 Dev 06:59:38 You like approaching the 2**16 limit, don't you! 07:00:23 To be sure we don't waste numbers ;) 07:00:54 See, ...532 -> tip, ...3 -> alpha, 4 -> beta, 5 -> rc. 07:01:46 How about 2.8284.27124.7461 (2 * root 2)? 07:03:47 Hey, lets choose a number and approach to it, like TeX and Slack! 07:03:56 You could have hg = 64 (from reading digits upside down on a calculator) 07:05:32 I see something else... 07:05:33 A merge and a backout. 07:06:10 Let's just throw away this 3.0 business and call it 14597.62958.17429.18884! (Hoorah for good scientific techniques like '.'.join(map(str, (random.randint(0, 65535) for i in xrange(4)))).) 07:06:12 Wait, I'm reading hP, not hg. 07:06:45 Do you use Python as your system shell? 07:06:58 echo $RANDOM.$RANDOM.$RANDOM.$RANDOM 07:07:31 No. It's too cumbersome for normal commands. But I always have Python at my fingertips with Alt+F6 (Alt+F3 is Terminal, you see). 07:07:47 What is the range of $RANDOM? 07:08:13 It looks to be a 16-bit number. 07:09:29 You mean, 65535. 07:09:43 I mean what? 07:09:57 16 bit. 07:10:16 0.upto(65535) 07:10:31 I mean it looks to be a 16-bit unsigned integer, which bounds it to [0, 65536) 07:11:13 Which is 0.upto(65535) in Ruby. Not that I use Ruby currently. 07:11:17 Anyway, this is frivolity. I still want to get round to replacing the appinfo.ini:Version stuff at some time... there's no reason why it should be X.X.X.X... 07:12:06 Of course it does. It's called Windows. 07:12:44 I can't believe I just searched for "mathematical numbers" on the web... m( 07:12:48 There's no reason why it should be X.X.X.X. 07:14:24 What about 1.202056903159594285399738161511449990764986292 07:14:35 12.02056903159594285399738161511449990764986292 07:14:45 What about it? 07:15:39 Is that intended to be 10 zeta 3? 07:15:49 Apéry's constant 07:16:38 * ChrisMorgan has http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=12.02056903159594285399738161511449990764986292 to help 07:16:38 I read about Riemann hypothesis once. 07:16:54 Try 0XFFFF on W|Alpha. 07:17:02 And then 0xFFFF. 07:23:56 What about it? It doesn't surprise me in the least. It does what I would expect. 07:24:27 Supporting a capital X in hexadecimal notation is the exception, not the rule. Lowercase is the normal way to write it. 07:25:22 I know. It doesn't match anything else, either. 07:25:59 Ahh... 2.50290 07:27:01 It seems to me we're wasting our time :-) 07:27:57 I propose that you push what you've got and then I get on and release PAL 3.0 Beta 1. 07:28:22 (In a couple of hours or so, I need to go and get some ingredients for tea and then make it and eat it.) 07:28:43 Already?! 07:29:58 "Already?!" on which count? The meal, or the release? 07:30:08 If the release, was there anything else you were wanting to get into 3.0? 07:34:52 I guess not. I just want to know with John if he can add [Dependencies]:UsesGhostscript to appinfo.ini. 07:41:14 Hey Chris, can you take a look on a small email I'm writing? 07:47:10 Yep (may have a delay, though, as I'm about to go) 07:47:49 http://p.kalug.net/4 07:48:43 choosed -> chose 07:49:52 And "to do it" -> "to do so". 07:50:25 And finally, "your email" -> "your email address" 07:51:47 I don't understand why you'd go basing it on that logo, though, rather than using the current Chromium logo - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chromium_11_Logo.svg 07:54:04 Because I'm using the current one since before the new logo. 07:54:09 And I like it. 07:55:41 I suggest that you scrap the version which is slightly different to the real original anyway and use the current real one. 08:11:21 I'm going to make some changes that will require me to depart Chromium Portable's branding from vanilla Chromium. 08:45:15 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 10:47:41 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 11:30:49 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 12:17:32 *** ronjn has quit (Quit: Rien n'est vrai. Tout est permis.) 12:35:44 *** ronjn (~ronjn@p549FB82C.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 12:38:53 *** ronjn has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 12:39:36 *** ronjn (~ronjn@p549FB82C.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 13:11:08 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~TPFC-SYST@gateway/tor-sasl/tpfc-system) has joined #portableapps 13:12:36 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.101.160.83) has joined #portableapps 13:26:52 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:28:57 *** Muhis91 (~noname@muhari.net) has joined #portableapps 13:30:08 Gmer rootkit detection to portable apps 13:30:20 its freeware 13:30:25 and its awesome 13:30:44 *** Muhis91 has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 14:59:35 *** pa_0817 (4344c126@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.68.193.38) has joined #portableapps 14:59:44 hi 15:00:17 i have a question about the portable apps repository 15:00:52 could i build my own application repository 15:03:06 my private repo will be used on top of the one provided by default in the tool 15:04:06 To do that, you'd have to at least recompile PAM. 15:04:24 Maybe even implement the entrie feature yourself. :( 15:05:14 to bad 15:05:36 we should be able to provide multiple repos 15:06:23 Likely the developers didn't find that feature important. 15:07:22 the problem is that when we have a set of applcations which are portable 15:08:00 the users should be able to select few of them 15:08:36 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15:09:11 I,m lokking at th problem in the context of a small compagny where emplyees are using different applications which are not supported by portableApps.com 15:10:15 Well, a company should be able to deploy installed software without problems. 15:13:04 *** pa_0817 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 15:29:44 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 15:45:32 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 15:46:25 for the record, you'd need to recompile and replace the UPDATER, not the menu 16:22:27 *** ronjn has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:22:36 *** ronjn (~ronjn@p5483F217.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 16:25:42 *** ronjn has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 16:26:25 *** ronjn (~ronjn@p5483F217.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 18:52:17 *** gluxon (~gluxon@unaffiliated/gluxon) has joined #portableapps 19:05:13 *** PlauSocks|AFK is now known as PlauSocks 19:47:50 *** pa_0076 (1872ff53@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.114.255.83) has joined #portableapps 19:47:55 hello 19:49:52 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-33-68-66.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 19:51:00 i wanted to know how to install portable apps? 19:58:34 Have you downloaded it? 20:13:54 *** techfreak243 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:14:56 *** Zarggg has quit (Quit: Rebooting client...) 20:18:17 *** pa_0076 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 20:31:40 *** ptmb (~Jose@a85-139-195-133.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 20:31:40 ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic... 20:46:54 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 21:52:07 *** gluxon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22:05:25 *** kAlug (~kalug@201-0-67-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 22:32:37 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 22:40:27 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:03:27 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:05:20 *** kAlug (~kalug@201-0-67-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 23:56:14 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)