00:17:46 *** PatrickPowell (~PatrickPo@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 00:51:26 *** agdurrette|AFK is now known as agdurrette 00:55:53 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-63-240.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:00:16 *** agdurrette is now known as agdurrette|AFK 01:03:30 hola JohnTHaller 01:05:39 hola 01:06:32 lots of New releases seems you been busy 01:07:18 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.57.8.54) has joined #portableapps 01:08:15 hey folks 01:08:40 indeed. wanted to be all caught up 01:09:00 Hi kAlug 01:09:17 Looks like you made your goal then JohnTHaller 01:09:19 hi vf2nsr 01:12:44 kAlug: did you see my scripting post 01:12:51 Hmm... no. 01:13:49 well looks like I might have figured out how to get things done in Rednotebook 01:21:57 JohnTHaller: did you get a chance to review the latest revision I emailed you about? 01:22:04 Does anyone here follows @sourceforge or @sfnet_ops on Twitter? 01:23:01 I do 01:23:12 ? 01:24:46 which particular tweet? 01:25:12 One mentioning Chromium Portable, or why their site is (was?) hald-down. 01:25:26 just the blog seems to be having issues at the moment 01:26:16 Last hour, download stats were down too. 01:26:33 yup I reported it to them 01:26:49 I had issues downloading from PA through them 01:26:51 as well 01:34:22 *** techfreak243 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01:35:05 JohnTHaller: did you see my earlier question? 01:35:54 coding atm, can't really get into anything deep 01:36:09 ok np 01:36:10 PatrickPowell: Would you say your last build of RedNotebook is done done? 01:36:55 JohnTHaller: Complete until 1.4 gets released 01:37:09 what did you change within RN itself? 01:37:36 Nothing I had it all changed in the launcher as noted in the last 2 emails 01:37:52 RN itself won't change till 1.4 01:37:56 Ok. and this won't interfere with a local install or leave anything behind right? 01:38:36 As stated in email local install it will not bother as any file it may write is same for loacl as for Portable 01:38:47 And if no local install nothing is left behind 01:38:55 what is portable is a different version than local 01:38:57 if 01:39:03 Last revision I sent early this am also cleasn clutter 01:39:44 Makes no difference onlt hing it changes are recently used xbel and a few other minor files 01:39:55 ok 01:39:56 I tested thouroughly and it did not affect local 01:40:33 the latest one I sent out today to you has custom launcher code to keep portable data floder clutter free 01:40:51 portable will now l aunch in <2 sec 01:40:51 Ok. I'll push that out tonight then 01:41:11 ok you di did get the file today? 01:41:25 2am 01:41:50 ok let me double check th etime 01:42:34 We are on NY time? 01:42:47 then yes that was it 01:42:48 yea 01:43:00 ok well we a little slower in Maine lol 01:43:19 Awesome and tyvm 01:43:33 .time GMT 01:43:51 .now GMT 01:43:59 .t GMT 01:43:59 Tue, 28 Feb 2012 01:43:59 GMT 01:44:47 .t GMT -4 01:44:47 PatrickPowell: Sorry, I don't know about the 'GMT -4' timezone. 01:44:58 I tried lol 01:45:37 .t GMT-4 01:45:37 kAlug: Sorry, I don't know about the 'GMT-4' timezone. 01:45:45 .t gmt -5 01:45:45 PatrickPowell: Sorry, I don't know about the 'gmt -5' timezone. 01:45:54 .wa GMT-4 01:45:58 Couldn't grab results from json stringified precioussss. 01:46:02 .t gmt (-5) 01:46:02 PatrickPowell: Sorry, I don't know about the 'gmt (-5)' timezone. 01:46:15 .t UTC-4 01:46:15 kAlug: Sorry, I don't know about the 'UTC-4' timezone. 01:46:34 .t edt 01:46:34 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:46:34 EDT 01:46:45 .t est 01:46:45 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:46:45 EST 01:46:54 that the one lol 01:48:30 kAlug: I knew I could figure it out 01:48:57 I knew of that. 01:48:59 .t BRST 01:48:59 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:48:59 BRST 01:49:28 But I wanted to see if it supported UTF-relative timezones. 01:49:40 .t America/Sao_Paulo 01:49:40 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:49:40 BRT 01:49:58 GizmoBot: you have a list of all your commands? 01:50:23 GizmoBot: .commands 01:50:45 .t UTC-04 01:50:45 kAlug: Sorry, I don't know about the 'UTC-04' timezone. 01:52:37 GizmoBot: help? 01:52:37 kAlug: Hi, I'm a bot. Say ".commands" to me in private for a list of my commands, or see http://inamidst.com/phenny/ for more general details. My owner is Gizmokid2005. 01:52:54 PatrickPowell: ^ 01:53:46 yup just asked him lol 01:57:06 *** PatrickPowell is now known as PatPowell|Away 01:58:03 *** PatPowell|Away has parted #portableapps (None) 01:58:09 *** PatPowell|Away (~PatrickPo@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 01:58:09 PatPowell|Away is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620 03:00:47 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 03:00:53 GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399 03:02:37 hi GordCaswell 03:02:47 hi kAlug. 03:03:05 i'm badgering gizmobot...i've often wodered what all it had for commands 03:03:17 and by wodered, i mean wondered 03:04:49 How you doing Gord? 03:05:56 not too bad. trying to figure out why MichaelDW is having issues with the xnview upgrade, can't see where the issue would be 03:09:13 *** AlleyKat has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 03:10:02 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a5b86.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 03:11:09 kAlug: you? 03:12:24 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 03:19:03 I'm fine. Pluzzed to see 4x more downloads than usual from Chromium Portable yesterday. Where came all those people from? 03:20:20 maybe from people subscribed to your topic? they may have seen your update... 03:21:32 Possibly. The official RSS feed has only 21 subscribers. 03:21:57 Or maybe because I finally decided to write a release notes post. 03:22:15 yeah, maybe 03:22:31 Anyway, they haven't visited the site. They downloaded it directly. 03:24:29 so maybe people watching the tracker? your new post would've shown up there 03:24:53 *** agdurrette|AFK is now known as agdurrette 03:26:07 Yeah... what makes me think: what if SourceForge sent John a bill for bandwidth and storage costs? 03:27:09 Geez, if they started doing that, we'd be in trouble...need some MAJOR fundraising then to keep the site going 03:28:11 Maybe if we ask the folks which donated to CyanogenMod... ;) 03:31:02 They needed two new servers, then they asked for donations... they got enough money to buy them in <24hrs. 03:32:08 nice...hopefully, once John's ready to do a fundraising drive, we're able to get one together, and most users are willing to put funds forward 03:34:22 Wow... that was fast. 03:34:38 ? 03:35:08 *Possible* spam attack. Removed after 1 post. 03:39:14 I'm now becoming scared of Chromium's dev team... 03:39:34 http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/password-generation (see last phrase in the page) 03:40:54 and yet again, we users are too stupid to do anything for ourselves...it has to be done for us. 03:48:40 You didn't got it, Gord. For them to change your passwords, they need to know the current one... 03:48:47 s/got/get/ 03:49:04 ah...good point..that's disturbing 03:52:04 For some reason, I don't have the same trust problem with LastPass. Specially after their last security issue and audit. 03:54:52 The point that's being made is that you won't know your own password...Google will store them for you. 03:58:18 I don't know most of mine either (not even the one for the forums or my emails). They're all 16-byte alphanumeric+special passwords (to the extent allowed by the site) protected by one of 5 mnemonic passwords of same security level. 03:59:02 And I only remember those 5 because of my keyboard. My online life will ruin if I need to switch to a Dvorak keyboard. 04:00:41 Well, I think I spoke too much here... 04:00:48 Personally, i store everything in keepass...some are really strong...my google one, for example, is alphanumeric/special, 84bit. I have an sd card that I use as the key to get into keepass. 04:01:11 heh. not really, just normal security measures 04:06:07 Well, at least no one of uses has a SD card used as key to another SD card which contains the key for the database... stored in yet another SD card. #ParanoiaUpToEleven 04:06:26 *** agdurrette is now known as agdurrette|AFK 04:06:41 haha...that is indeed paranoid 04:12:11 AHH!!! Wikipedia error! 04:12:27 The world is going to end! 04:13:29 Alright, being serious... 04:14:12 "The Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organisation which hosts some of the most popular sites on the Internet, including Wikipedia. It has a constant need to purchase new hardware. If you would like to help, please donate." 04:14:38 These guys don't miss a chance, uh? 04:19:52 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: NOW I spoke too much. Time to 'shutdown -h now' myself.) 04:29:18 *** PatPowell|Away is now known as PatrickPowell 04:30:06 *** PatrickPowell has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:30:36 *** PatrickPowell (~PatrickPo@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 04:30:36 PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620 04:40:42 GordCaswell: Still trying to figure out what is up with XNview? 04:41:40 yup. I can't duplicate the problem the user is indicating, and neither the installer nor the launcher re-write the ini file, so i'm not sure what's going on 04:44:43 so th eporgram itself is creating the ini 04:45:37 quite possibly, although it shouldn't - the file already exists. I'm trying to get more information to find out what's going on 04:52:10 So I see 04:53:34 looks like spammers on loose on forum 04:54:12 indeed...yet again, i wish i could take care of it, but alas. 04:55:14 I see one thing maybe? 04:55:19 ? 04:56:37 maybe no tlet me look some more Unfortuantely I can not get at my old driv eright now so can not view the old version 04:57:08 Why is settings in default folder....Doesnt new launcher make it automatically? 04:58:26 it does, but there's default LastDrive and LastPackagePartialDir within the xnview.ini, so they need to be dealt with. It's normal, and neccessary 05:00:33 ah ok 05:03:45 can I ask one more stupid question? 05:03:53 giv'r 05:04:42 ok I see files move from appdir for the xnview ini but appdur does not have it the data does? 05:06:25 if it was there in old version and no tmoved to data properly then it would have been erased on new build 05:06:40 any link to old build? 05:06:45 You've got it backwards. It moves from DataDir to PAL:AppDir\XnView 05:07:33 right but if the old one was not actually saving it in data then it got replaced by the new one? 05:07:37 just a thought? 05:08:17 follow what I mean? 05:08:25 It was saving it in data...it started by copying the file to appdir, and on closing, copied it back. it didn't rename, which is a mistake of the original developer. 05:08:56 ok so you can confirm that was actually occuring on old build? 05:09:12 indeed i can. i checked on my copy of it 05:09:20 ok 05:09:23 hmmmm 05:10:01 in thtat case I weould love to see his whole program wonde rif it was "customized?" 05:10:31 yeah, that's the only thing i can think of at this time. Waiting for a reply from him, though 05:11:30 also curious where he installs it to? 05:12:00 shouldn't matter, but by looking at his pastebins, it looks like to a default location 05:12:41 perusing those now 05:14:26 I see one in the old ini that looks odd? Given that the rest are in accepatable places 05:14:55 line 198 of old ini 05:16:24 That's on line 191 of the new one 05:17:10 ok? 05:17:52 it's a directory listing, i don't see why it would be an issue 05:18:18 I just mean that ws an odd directory on the PA format drive desktop? 05:18:48 IDK guess best th ing is to leave it between you two and wait till you mor einfo 05:19:43 Yeah, odd setup, but all that would have happened is the drive letter would have been updated...there's nothing that would change entries 05:25:19 I should learn not to step in on topics I know little about 05:25:39 heh. It never hurts to ask questions 05:25:51 *** PatrickPowell has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:26:22 *** PatrickPowell (~PatrickPo@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 05:26:22 PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. 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He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats 21:22:22 *** vf2nsr (~PatrickPo@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 21:22:22 vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620 21:22:42 JohnTHaller: I want to appologize 21:24:27 JohnTHaller: I apparently gave you th ewrong link to the final update to TNB 21:24:31 RNB 21:28:56 will get the right link to you directly 21:29:43 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.74.13.127) has joined #portableapps 21:30:21 *** vf2nsr is now known as vf2nsr|away 21:41:01 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21:45:49 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.74.7.3) has joined #portableapps 21:55:59 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 22:00:07 JohnTHaller: you got mail 22:03:06 *** agdurrette|AFK is now known as agdurrette 22:06:40 *** vf2nsr|away is now known as PatPowell|Away 22:20:45 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 22:23:35 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a5b86.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 22:30:02 *** PatPowell|Away is now known as PatrickPowell 22:45:47 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 23:03:45 *** agdurrette is now known as agdurrette|AFK 23:04:50 *** PatrickPowell has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 23:59:52 *** AlleyKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)