00:08:53 *** ZachThibeau (~Zach@zachthibeau.broker.freenet6.net) has joined #portableapps 00:08:53 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 00:08:53 *** ZachThibeau (~Zach@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 00:08:53 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 00:09:04 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 00:09:48 hola JohnTHaller 00:10:04 hola 00:10:12 how are you doing today? 00:10:47 Not bad. Been busy catching up on the last few app updates. Even got gPodder done. And just uploaded a Geany PR. Finishing the last LibreOffice/Java bits tonight 00:11:20 cool, I need to get pr2 for PChat uploaded, been so busy with work that I've been putting it off and I shouldn't any longer 00:27:06 OliverK: When you get a chance: http://portableapps.com/node/32134 00:27:22 Everybody, we have two apps in pre-release in need of testers: http://portableapps.com/node/19705 00:27:36 For now, I must step away from the screen until this headache subsides. 00:27:41 *** JohnTHaller is now known as JohnTHaller|away 00:40:28 *** GizmoBot has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01:12:57 JohnTHaller|away: please hit me up on twitter or email me - I might miss messages in this channel 01:13:54 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 01:18:50 *** JohnTHaller|away is now known as JohnTHaller 01:19:01 OliverK: I was planning on emailing you if you hadn't responded :) 01:19:10 alright then 01:19:13 I stayed log in to be sure you did. 01:19:14 i'll take a look at it 01:19:38 since windows is now back on my primary machine it won't be such a pain in the ass to get this done 01:20:15 *** techfreak249 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01:20:42 I repacked Geany using AppCompactor from a clean install, added in the new splash, added file associations to appinfo.ini, updated the launcher to unicode and reworked the installer custom nsh. 01:24:54 I'll take a look - did you use anything from github? 01:25:10 also: I need to get ready for work 01:25:19 I grabbed your github package and then updated from there to be sure I didn't miss anything. 01:25:30 cool - so it was useful :) 01:25:32 night 01:25:38 Gnight 01:31:37 JohnTHaller: I'm in the process of adding the fixes for rev 4, and see these lines in installer.ini: Opt.dir1=App\gimp\share locale and Rem.Dir1=App\gimp\share\locale. Aren't these mutually exclusive? 01:35:07 Nope. If you're upgrading and aren't selecting the optional components, you want to ensure they are removed. Due to RemoveAppDirectory=false 01:37:25 Ok. and since OptionaSectionInstalledWhenSilent, the optional directory should be included when upgrading within the platform, right? 01:38:51 It's installed when users are installing in non-English... or English with Install all Languages selected in the platform (coming soon) 01:39:38 ah..that would be why i'm not getting that section. Looks like i need to install rev 3 external to the platform then to get everything :) 01:40:24 Yup, that's it. 02:17:07 *** vf2nsr (~Aztec@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 02:19:35 evening all 02:19:48 evening 02:20:02 hola 02:24:40 Gord you did great getting Gimp up and running love the interface miss the old splash though this one is anti-climatic lol 02:28:38 They have a really subtle/classy splash now, so I adapted our graphics to it. I think it works. 02:29:13 Sadly, my old plugin portablization code no longer works as GIMP checksums plugin paths. I was able to preserve font cache so same PC 2nd starts are nice and snappy. 02:29:33 yeah, i like it. it's subtle, like our new branding in general 02:30:40 Thanks. Our designer, DJ, and I spent some time on it to achieve a balance we were happy with. 02:31:07 I like our port of it just like d old one 02:31:31 guess I am old fashion sort of like I like the old notepad++ 02:31:37 heh 02:31:57 goal with our new graphics is to keep it subtle/professional and let the app icons/graphics stand out more. 02:32:01 In fact I hav eit customed on my local notepad to just the chameleon and pencil 02:32:19 I am impressed with the PA part 02:32:27 that was not meant as a comlaint 02:32:39 I know :) 02:32:41 not fond of their graphic tha twas all 02:33:07 They runnin ginto same fontconfig issue I did with Rednotebook? 02:33:09 btw - gPodder 3.1 was a beast to get working and slimmed down. It would have been 178MB installed. 02:33:40 vf2nsr: You mean is GIMP? Yes, but GIMP shows you what it's doing. And we can't use the same workaround as you want all your fonts available. 02:34:16 yes JohnTHaller I know wmy work around would not work just ws curious if similar issue 02:34:42 Yup, exact same slowdown. GIMP has its splash up and lets you know it's indexing fonts, though. 02:35:30 no way my work around could work because Gimp I think actually uses the fonts RNB did not 02:35:41 so basicallly a python issue it seems 02:37:35 good to see Geany up in pre release 02:37:51 Yeah. I figured I'd just carve out 20 mins and build it up. 02:38:05 *** GordCaswell is now known as GordCaswell|buil 02:38:05 awesome 02:38:16 *** GordCaswell|buil is now known as Gord|building 02:38:21 Goal is to have all outdated apps done this week 02:38:30 nice 02:38:43 Hey got a quick one for you john hopefully easy 02:39:06 Ok, Google Chrome Beta up. 02:39:11 Let me know whenever you want us to ramp up new apps after that, and we'll start cranking them out. 02:39:30 Now back to LibreOffice auto-detection of installed VC runtime and long path fix. 02:39:33 and by me, i mean me, zach, either one 02:39:34 remember on the outdated page there was a link to why we were not going with the java 7.3 02:39:44 do you still have that link per chance? 02:40:13 vf2nsr: Right, but Java 7 is now official and recommended for end users. So that link is no longer valid. I think they removed that page. 02:40:25 ah ok tyvm 02:40:37 want to read what the original issues were 02:41:45 It was partially a browser support issue. And partially that it would break OpenOffice.org. That's why they can release it now since Apache OpenOffice 3.4 was released. 02:42:02 (those were not listed as official reasons, but they are the major ones) 02:42:08 that is what I remembered 02:42:32 was just wondering as the other program I volunteer for has major web based java in it for commerce 02:42:55 so wanted to keep an eye on any issues that may pop up and compare tehm to "known" issues 02:47:45 Thanks for the info John 02:48:03 Sure thing 02:49:02 now I just need to figure why Chrome and our website do not play nice together lol (our meaning other chat program) 02:57:03 *** JWHough (~JW_Hough@ip68-107-132-176.tc.ph.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 03:11:03 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:21:30 JohnTHaller: would this be acorrect use of ${ReplaceInFile}? 04:21:31 ${ReplaceInFile} "$INSTDIR\App\DefaultData\pygimp.interp" "$4$INSTDIR" "$2$3" 04:22:04 *** vf2nsr (~Aztec@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 04:22:08 Knee deep in LibO atm 04:22:17 $4 is "P:", $2 is PAL:LastDrive, and $3 is PAL:LastDir 04:25:08 *** vf2nsr has parted #portableapps (None) 04:25:54 No way to just have PAL write the file out rather than worrying about replacing? Or just switching it to relative so we don't have to worry about it? 04:27:15 Hmm, i could try...i have it in installer custom code at the moment, if relative paths work, i could switch to that, and then not worry about it. I'll check if that works for sure. 04:27:27 Relative is easier, for sure. 04:27:56 Or do the trick we often do, which is stick a unique string on there as a seed. Have a replace of that to current. And then a 2nd replace to update the path from there on. 04:29:49 d'oh...i'm copying the file in from defaultdata for everyone, so yeah, that'd work. Gotta love when you make things harder for yourself than neccessary :) 04:30:00 *deletes copious amounts of code* 04:30:17 yay. we love doing that 04:51:20 *** JWHough has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04:52:18 Ok, I haven't seen this particular error from the installer before: "Error: could not resolve label "_LogicLib_Label_226" in install section "GIMP Portable (English) [Required]" (0) 04:52:19 Error - aborting creation process" 04:55:28 That means you have an IF, AndIf, EndIf or some other custom coding error. 04:55:45 You'll get nothing better than that in terms of an error from anything, either. 04:55:51 Ah...i know what it is, then 05:20:43 Ok, John, it'll be on it's way to you shortly. gotta reboot, then i'm uploading it 05:20:51 *** Gord|building has quit (Quit: Gord|building) 06:09:18 *** Venusaur (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 06:11:37 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 07:37:48 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 07:48:29 *** habr100 (habr100@nat/ibm/x-esbvkwiknsmyvuth) has joined #portableapps 07:51:34 *** habr100 has parted #portableapps (None) 08:02:23 *** Darwin4Ever (~Darwin4Ev@213.219.161.227.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) has joined #portableapps 08:08:54 *** bluebell_rose (~bluebell_@cg4l3001.smb.curriegrad2004.ca) has joined #portableapps 08:09:01 finally got in here 08:13:48 *** bluebell_rose has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08:13:53 *** bluebell_rose_ (~bluebell_@cg4l3001.smb.curriegrad2004.ca) has joined #portableapps 08:18:23 *** bluebell_rose_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08:22:45 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~system@gateway/tor-sasl/tpfc-system) has joined #portableapps 08:35:16 *** bluebell_rose__ (~bluebell_@cg4l3001.smb.curriegrad2004.ca) has joined #portableapps 08:35:22 hi 08:35:27 sorry about the poofing earlier 08:35:39 I seemed to have connected to a dead server lol 08:36:30 i guess I'll wait lol 09:03:12 *** Darwin4Ever has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09:32:02 *** kAlug (bb39027c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.57.2.124) has joined #portableapps 09:32:20 bluebell_rose__: Can we help you with something? 09:32:53 hi 09:33:17 hi 09:33:19 * bluebell_rose__ is trying to figure out how to make something work again on pchat 09:33:44 ZachThibeau: you there? 09:35:06 lol 09:35:28 somehow channel notices aren't showing in a notice balloon anymore 09:35:34 it used to do it but not anymore 09:35:35 bluebell_rose__: I'm don't know much about PChat, but I can try to help you anyway. Can you wait a few more minutes? 09:35:42 ok 09:37:39 good. will be back in a few minutes. 09:37:41 *** kAlug has quit () 09:44:43 *** kAlug (~kg-blade@189.64.217.255) has joined #portableapps 09:45:54 bluebell_rose__: i'm back 09:45:59 earlier I was uh trying to figure out how not to keep from getting kicked from here 09:46:00 xD 09:46:08 freenode kept disconnecting me 09:48:14 Possibly you are using a registered nickname 09:48:26 :) 09:48:38 I couldn't get a feature working so came for help here 09:49:05 Which one? 09:49:28 xD 09:49:31 pchat 09:51:06 *** kAlug has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 09:52:13 meep 09:55:56 bluebell_rose__: kAlug lives in Brazil and loses power quite often. :( 09:56:24 As for your problem, I use KVIrc Portable myself (so I'm afraid I can't help you). 09:57:00 *** kAlug (~kg-blade@189.64.217.255) has joined #portableapps 09:57:18 meep 09:57:31 I like firefox portable lol 09:57:57 used to use it at school when the school techs refused to reinstall firefox after upgrading the system 09:58:53 It was our first portable app. 10:01:13 Which was your problem with PChat anyway? 10:03:10 I couldn't figure out how to get channel notices to pop up in a balloon again 10:04:33 Isn't there any settings for it? 10:10:08 Sorry, I'll have to leave now. Is there any way for us to contact you? (In case of email, prefix the line with @@ so it doesn't show up in the logs). 10:21:48 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Bye) 10:24:13 *** techfreak249 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 11:45:09 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a5a5d.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 11:57:15 *** techfreak249 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12:15:13 *** techfreak249 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 12:20:00 *** techfreak249 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13:03:30 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:17:46 *** ronjn___ (~ronjn@p5B13C30C.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 13:18:43 *** ronjn has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14:52:33 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 15:09:10 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 15:29:33 *** keyzs (~keyzs@a85-138-188-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 15:37:41 help! 15:38:14 always get a invalid certificate on pchat on freenode 15:38:22 cant login 15:47:21 try not connecting to the ssl version 15:47:33 and post a bug report \ search on portableapps.com 15:47:49 ./server irc.freenode.net +6667 15:53:13 *** keyzs has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 15:56:56 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 15:57:55 *** techfreak249 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 16:15:12 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit () 16:26:17 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-63-240.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 16:28:39 OliverK: Did you get a chance to check out Geany? I'd like to get it released today or tomorrow so all apps are caught up. 16:33:02 brb 16:33:03 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 16:33:10 *** techfreak249 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17:09:43 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 17:23:07 .tell johnthaller I ran out of time today - goofed around on the internet to long. I'm planning to look at it tomorrow - less goofing more working 17:25:08 *** GizmoBot (~GizmoBot@dedi.gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 17:25:11 GizmoBot is the official bot of #Gizmokid2005 and #PortableApps. 17:25:46 .tell johnthaller I ran out of time today - goofed around on the internet to long. I'm planning to look at it tomorrow - less goofing more working 17:25:46 OliverK: I'll pass that on when johnthaller is around. 17:28:40 *** techfreak249 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 17:49:43 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit () 18:47:57 hi 18:50:57 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-63-240.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 18:53:26 *** kAlug (~kg-blade@189.65.183.198) has joined #portableapps 18:53:50 Hi John 18:55:16 hola 18:56:57 How you doing? 18:57:40 Hanging in. Sleepy after a late night of fixing LibreOffice Portable bugs and adding new features. 19:02:09 In PAL, For PA.cDocuments and friends, what about using DataDir as fallback? 19:03:32 I was thinking 1) see if the env var is set by platform and if it exists use that. 2) check the hardcoded version which would be 2 parents up from EXEDIR and the Documents for PA.cDocuments 19:04:09 3) Check the hardcoded version at the root of the current drive which would be X:\Documents 4) use root of current drive 19:04:32 We don't want documents in Data as a general rule. It's possible data can be reset (it's a feature in an upcoming platform) 19:05:26 SO, if we run from X:\Portables\PortableApps\ACMEPortable. We'd first check then env var, then X:\Portables\Documents, then X:\Documents. Then just X:\ 19:06:19 I'm gonna start custom coding that into apps until PAL has it anyway as RealPA.cDocuments env var. It's already in LibreOffice. 19:06:34 Okay. WIP... 19:09:30 That all make sense both logically and in terms of technically how you'd like to handle it? 19:12:14 Basically this: http://pastebin.com/wJYwGTz6 19:21:07 hi 19:23:03 hello 19:33:39 *** kAlug has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 19:34:26 *** kAlug (~kg-blade@189.65.183.198) has joined #portableapps 19:55:55 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 20:05:17 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 20:12:50 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 20:25:45 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: Bye) 20:42:54 *** ronjn___ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 20:43:34 *** ronjn (~ronjn@p5B13C30C.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 20:56:39 *** bluebell_rose__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:10:56 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit () 21:53:52 *** techfreak249 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:06:50 *** techfreak249 (~techfreak@c-68-40-88-129.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:46:28 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 22:48:46 *** JWHough (~JW_Hough@ip68-107-132-176.tc.ph.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 22:48:46 JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055 23:05:40 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit () 23:50:52 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 23:54:50 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Client Quit) 23:55:26 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-63-240.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps