00:00:10 As I've said before, it's a different launcher. The launcher prebuilt into the PAF uses PAL. 00:00:22 Oh ok. Sorry, I missed that bit. 00:00:43 So you're maintaining a second launcher just for one user? 00:02:08 Nope. I use it too daily. It's on my desktop. Don't ask why I do it; I also don't know. 00:02:21 lol 00:02:48 Kiriko: Are you sure you've sent me the right file? 00:03:38 yea 00:07:15 Where does the settings file comes from? %USERPROFILE% or %APPDATA%? 00:07:24 %LOCALAPPDATA%? 00:08:11 Back to the splash screen: I just wanted to know if it looks nice. 00:08:30 Yea, it works :) 00:10:22 Great. I think it's a lot lighter than the previous one. 00:10:53 I should add an "Inspired by PortableApps.com splash screens" somewhere :) 00:11:06 heh 00:18:16 Arkhmud: ok i removed the directory move section to see where it would send the folder after closing the app and only found it to create this folder (C:\Users\Kiriko\Synfig) 00:20:59 with that one empty folder in "VirtualStore" 00:29:11 Kiriko: try this: http://p.kalug.net/5u 00:31:19 Cool. Has been using Chrome Portable's Portable Passwords all this time and didn't know it. 00:36:54 Arkhmud: that works like a charm! 00:37:03 Thank You!! ^_^ 00:37:11 You're welcome. 00:37:28 ill be posting this on PA.c soon 00:43:48 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:44:46 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-63-240.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 00:58:42 *** km86 (6031ef18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.49.239.24) has joined #portableapps 00:59:27 Does anyone know if there's a way to resize the launcher? I'm using a netbook 01:00:29 There isn't, km86. It's only 573px high, so it should fit on an 800x600 screen with the taskbar set to autohide. 01:00:58 (you can also hide/show the menu with CTRL-ALT-Space so you don't have to go to the taskbar) 01:03:25 *** Arkhmud has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01:06:42 Thank you 01:06:53 You're welcome, km86 01:07:40 We may debut a netbook friendly theme at some point in the near future as well for folks who don't want to use autohide 01:10:51 *** km86 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01:12:09 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.101.136.8) has joined #portableapps 01:14:23 that would be cool, cause i only use a netbook for the time bein 01:15:10 Essentially we'll lop off the top of the platform, stick a smaller logo on, and disable the personal picture 01:15:41 You could also remove some space from the app list. 01:16:08 ill be onest, that platform works on my netbook just as it dose on any other computer 01:16:11 I don't think I'll worry about shifting all that and making it dyanmic to save a few pixels. 01:17:09 since i use my taskbar in small mode the platform fits just fine 01:17:39 There's no need to make ir dynamic. The list itself is scrollable, and there's lots of free space on the right. 01:17:58 I mean dyanically removing some items from it. 01:18:31 Ah. 01:18:38 That's not a single widget doing that app list. It's 106 including the scrollbar and scroll buttons. 01:18:58 wow that's a lot!! 01:19:31 Only way to get it working the way we want and make it themable 01:19:51 Now I noticed a problem: a ghost scrollbar! 01:20:05 At the moment, I really don't care :-P 01:20:48 No problem; it's barely noticeable (indeed, i was staring at the Platform when I noticed it). 01:21:34 What happened? 01:23:09 Nothing... I just realized it was something else... 01:24:02 http://p.kalug.net/data/images/7/7a.png 01:24:44 It looks perfectly placed. 01:25:03 oh heh, I see 01:26:01 For some seconds, I thought the scrollbar was from the Platform. 01:28:17 JohnTHaller: Have you seen this? http://portableapps.com/node/32091#comment-195840 01:30:39 Think it's revision worthy? 01:34:55 I don't think so. It's a somewhat advanced app anyway. Just put it in your TODO list. 01:35:26 It is :) I have a list of outstanding stuff pinned in with each app as necessary 01:35:57 Oh, on a related note. When an app has only one of PortugueseBR or Portuguese... you think it's a good idea to use it for both platform-app-switching wise? 01:35:59 Cool. How do you do that. 01:36:00 ? 01:36:32 Oh, just locally, all in folders for each app. I keep records of every release of every app with notes and bugs and things. 01:37:14 It should take a lot of space... 01:38:12 i need a portable anti mosquito reppeler :) 01:38:12 Less than 1TB 01:38:54 So, kAlug, what do you think of P vs P-BR in terms of language switching? I know at least one app only had P-BR in it, so I set it to use it for both P and P-BR from the platform. 01:38:56 WRT the language, it depends. More technical users may know that File = Arquivo = Ficheiro and Screen = Tela = Ecrã. Simple users, OTOH... 01:39:27 I've been wondering the same for Spanish vs SpanishInternational. 01:39:30 JohnTHaller love your portable apps 01:39:45 OTOH, it's a choice between giving a Portuguese user PortugueseBR or English. 01:39:48 Thanks keyzs :) 01:40:34 On a interesting note, for Google Portuguese means PortugueseBR; maybe they somehow know where I do live and select the right variant automagically... 01:40:55 if you could make one portable anti mosquito repeller would save my day 01:40:58 I'd wager they do. They do a lot of stuff based on geo-ip 01:41:23 I could make an app with a picture of a mosquito with a circle and a line through it :) 01:41:44 i have serious doubts on these ones on the net 01:42:00 that do a audio pitch 01:42:20 I'm pretty sure you can't repell a mosquito with sound. 01:42:46 so why do they make so many iphone apps lol 01:42:58 Money. 01:42:59 Well, there's a solar powered Android app... it's done as a joke. 01:43:23 Joke with ads, I suppose. 01:43:26 they win money on the free ones? 01:43:37 They do ads and such. 01:43:45 hmmm 01:44:43 Ok, KiTTY Portable is built and ready to go as this week's new app. 01:44:58 portuguese and portugueseBR are totally diferent 01:45:01 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@mctnnbsa51W-156034092227.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) has joined #portableapps 01:45:04 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 01:45:19 i use pchat 01:45:47 keyzs: They are. But is it better to present a portuguese speaker with portugueseBR or English is the question. Same with Spanish vs SpanishInternational. 01:46:35 sir how do you do those software translations 01:46:41 is it by users? 01:47:28 It varies. Most are by the publishers and their paid translators (some) or volunteer translators (more). For our own apps, we have LOTS of volunteers: http://portableapps.com/about/team 01:47:28 usually by user submission 01:48:01 i need to do translations for this project www.thevenusproject.com so i asked 01:49:05 When you do stuff for free/non-profit, especially under an open license, you can often get people to volunteer 01:49:07 keyzs: Are you from TPFC? 01:49:20 whats that? 01:49:43 Portable Freeware Collection site 01:50:06 no 01:50:10 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 01:50:11 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:50:13 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 01:50:45 but i like that site a lot too 01:52:40 I'm sure I've already saw that site in someone's signature. 01:52:41 JohnTHaller wich payed translators you find the best? 01:52:43 I took a break from TPFC last Fri. May pop back in eventually. 01:53:54 JohnTHaller: In the PAL 2.2 blockers, you mention "Manual references a few unimplemented things like PAL:DrivePath and PAL:LastDrivePath". It seems to be another packaging error. 01:53:54 " 01:54:18 Meaning they are implemented and not working... or that shouldn't be in the manual? 01:55:05 I haven't used any paid translation services myself 01:55:29 neither have I 01:55:44 It's not on the manual sources for my checkout. I suppose Chris didn't rebuild the included manual for 3.0. Can you check if 3.0 is mentioned in the Releases? 01:56:09 eventually PChat will need brand new translations since 2.0 is going to be a complete rewrite and will be using new translation strings 01:56:34 kAlug: Check what for 3.0? 01:56:46 I have access to the same things you do. 01:57:16 The manual included in 2.2 RC2. The releases notes in it. 01:57:50 I haven't looked at the bundled one. Assumed it was the same as the one he links from the topic. http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/releases/2.2/ 01:58:22 Oh no. That's always built from the tip (i.e. currently 3.0). 01:59:25 So it's all right. Now I just need to make sure the graphics work fine in the Manual. 02:05:06 Ok cool. The new ones you mean? 02:05:39 The new graphics are the exact dimensions of the old ones from the help file's graphics. And I think the PAL manual uses them unaltered as well. 02:08:12 they seem to work well 02:08:49 Well, let's find it out. 02:09:46 I plugged em into the manual in 2.2rc2. works fine 02:12:16 I see. Just pushed it to the main repo. 02:12:51 So, I think PAL 2.2 is ready. 02:13:55 Did you figure out "Headers are blank during generation of the launcher when launched from the command line" 02:15:31 *** Kiriko is now known as Kiriko|Away 02:17:50 Yep. Just had to move one line. 02:17:56 cool 02:20:56 *** kAlug has quit (Quit: be right back) 02:23:05 *** Venusaur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:23:07 *** Sui_Dorimu (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 02:23:38 *** Sui_Dorimu is now known as Venusaur 02:28:42 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.11.99.113) has joined #portableapps 02:30:12 JohnTHaller: Do you know something about how USB Sudoku works? 02:30:52 I need help with some strings to translate. 02:31:17 Alright, I am off to grab a bite. 02:31:24 Everything we know about it is contained within it 02:32:11 Hm. Let me play a bit more with it then. 02:33:47 I read it needs a new dev? 02:43:56 *** keyzs has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 02:45:08 night all 02:45:13 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:45:34 *** Kiriko|Away has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]) 03:12:40 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 03:12:43 GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer 03:18:47 hi GordCaswell 03:19:01 hi kAlug 03:20:48 How are you Gord? 03:22:19 not too bad. looking forward to clearing up most of the bugs remaining on the bug tracker 03:22:22 you? 03:23:27 Waiting for something important to happen (so am I an event-based system?). Watching X-Files in the meantime. 03:24:05 haha. Nice. I haven't watched X-files in ages 03:31:02 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:04:23 *** Venusaur has quit (*.net *.split) 04:04:48 kAlug: Yes, USB Sudoku needs a new dev (was abandoned a while back). 04:04:56 I am off to bed. Exhausted. Gnight all. 04:05:18 Good night. And morning. And whatever comes next. 04:05:22 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 04:09:29 *** Venusaur (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 04:37:05 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@mctnnbsa51W-156034092227.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) has joined #portableapps 04:37:05 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 04:37:05 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 04:37:08 ... 04:37:51 wb ZachThibeau 04:37:59 ty 04:38:07 couldn't sleep properly 04:38:56 been thinking of starting my own studio setup but for programing 04:39:42 Studio? Like an artist's studio? 04:40:02 * ZachThibeau points to what he said before 04:40:09 but for programing is they key word 04:40:38 Sorry. Intertranslation issue. 04:40:52 kind of thinking of names for my little project 04:41:42 also setting a budget to obtain some extra computers like a customer pc for hackintosh (sad I can build a hackintosh pc more easlily and more affordable than a real mac) 04:41:48 **custom 04:44:10 but this new little startup idea will be housing all my projects under one name 04:53:06 a name that's been sticking in my mind is eliastech but eh still thinking of others that actually has meaning 04:54:42 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:55:09 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05:26:45 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs84248.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 06:09:25 *** Kiriko|Away (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 06:09:50 *** Kiriko|Away is now known as Kiriko 07:24:11 well im off to bed now latter guys 07:24:17 *** Kiriko has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]) 07:32:23 *** Darwin4Ever (~Darwin4Ev@77.109.122.111) has joined #portableapps 08:17:09 *** habr100 (~habr100@bband-dyn53.178-40-83.t-com.sk) has joined #portableapps 08:18:34 *** habr100 has parted #portableapps (None) 12:12:31 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@mctnnbsa51W-156034092227.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) has joined #portableapps 12:12:31 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 12:12:31 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 12:47:25 *** pa_7280 (d5214621@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.33.70.33) has joined #portableapps 12:47:33 hello 12:47:58 i wanted to aks is there any way to install the Platform Client in silent mode? 13:07:48 *** pa_7280 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 13:24:00 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13:31:19 *** z3uS has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:37:15 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@mctnnbsa51W-156034092227.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) has joined #portableapps 13:37:15 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 13:37:15 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 13:37:18 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 13:37:19 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 13:38:40 *** z3uS (z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 13:57:16 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 14:40:32 *** Marlus (~marlop@177.97.54.137) has joined #portableapps 14:48:26 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 15:03:11 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 15:12:40 *** Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15:16:02 *** Gizmokid2005 (~Gizmokid2@dedi.gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 16:02:33 *** Marlus has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16:07:37 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs84248.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 16:42:51 *** ZAX07 (~ZAXO7@141.223.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) has joined #portableapps 16:54:57 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.74.5.221) has joined #portableapps 16:55:48 *** kAlug is now known as Arkhmud 17:00:59 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-4d068d40.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 17:36:42 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@d54C35985.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 17:48:24 *** ZAX07 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:48:32 *** ZAX07_ (~ZAXO7@141.223.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) has joined #portableapps 17:51:38 *** ZAX07_ has quit (Client Quit) 18:14:50 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 18:25:03 *** Arkhmud has quit (Quit: bbl) 18:29:10 *** Kiriko (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 18:36:18 *** rainroom69 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:58:50 *** Kiriko has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]) 19:06:12 *** ronjn (~ronjn@p5B13E65A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:06:31 *** ronjn___ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19:30:23 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 19:44:28 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 20:16:25 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 20:50:26 *** gluxon (~gluxon@unaffiliated/gluxon) has joined #portableapps 20:53:22 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 20:53:24 GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer 20:59:50 *** GordCaswell_ (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 21:00:27 *** GordCaswell has quit (Disconnected by services) 21:00:33 *** GordCaswell_ is now known as GordCaswell 21:07:44 *** Kiriko (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps 21:30:56 *** Arkhmud (~kalug@187.74.5.221) has joined #portableapps 21:41:20 hey Arkhmud! 21:42:11 *** Kiriko is now known as Kiriko|Away 21:47:36 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:11:06 *** z3uS has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22:13:10 *** z3uS (z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 22:17:42 *** ElderP (ElderP@24.231.19.167) has joined #portableapps 22:17:54 good evening folks 22:19:59 question: if PortableApps.comLauncherGenerator.exe or the installer gets an error, will it return a non-zero return code? I am calling it from a python script and it appears it is always returning a 0 22:30:48 ElderP: gimme a second. 22:34:59 ElderP: Yeah, it seems you're right. 22:35:32 I'd suggest checking if the output file is present. IIRC, it's deleted before trying to do anything. 23:00:05 *** Darwin4Ever has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)