00:20:27 *** AluisioASG has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00:26:28 *** DJRWolf (~Root@c-67-162-45-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 00:59:49 *** AluisioASG (~kg-gecko@200-207-31-57.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 00:59:49 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 01:00:13 ty GizmoBot 01:00:14 Yw AluisioASG! 01:05:49 Heh, I never knew GizmoBot could do that :P 01:09:33 I'm guessing GizoBot is a automated program that does administrative functions in the channel? 01:10:54 DJRWolf: That's about right. 01:23:37 *** GordCaswell (GordCaswel@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 01:23:39 GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer 01:23:45 *** GordCaswell has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:23:59 *** GordCaswell (GordCaswel@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 01:24:02 GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer 01:25:39 hey GordCaswell! 01:26:00 hey AluisioASG 01:26:28 Hey GordCaswell :) 01:28:18 hey gluxon 01:29:41 Hey Gord, I was thinking on making a PAL repository clone on Bitbucket. What do you think? 01:31:20 AluisioASG: Have you ever tried github.com? How does it compare to Bitbucket? 01:32:44 1. I do have an account on GitHub, but I don't actually use any of my accounts on both sites in order to compare them. 2. GitHub is Git-only. Our repos are all Mercurial-based. 01:33:20 Okay, how does git compare to mercurial? :D 01:33:56 AluisioASG, Sounds good to me. Would you make it as a team repo? 01:34:28 gluxon: http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Git_vs_Mercurial 01:34:49 I still think the PortableApps.com Launcher shouldn't be written in NSIS. 01:35:15 gluxon: Can you propose a better language? 01:35:49 (And yes, we've already thought of it; a few months ago, though). 01:36:14 Just not NSIS. There's a lot of stuff we're doing in the Launcher that could be implemented much better in another language. 01:36:35 C++ for one. 01:36:48 Also, I have a question for a PAL designer. 01:37:00 Why doesn't PAL follow the INI in an order? 01:37:02 msvcrt. That thing doesn't ship with Windows 2000. 01:37:17 AluisioASG: MFC 01:37:40 Can we do a static build? 01:38:05 The order is determined in PAL's source code. 01:38:30 Yeah. 01:38:49 I have a bias for C++ and MinGW (which can compile MFC statically) 01:39:08 I haven't touched NSIS for one or two years now. 01:39:44 AluisioASG: Right. Why can't the programmer determine the order PAL should execute jobs? (ex: FileWrite, FilesMove) 01:40:06 I'm assuming the answer is limitations in NSIS? 01:41:38 Nope. It's just (AFAICT) because it has been designed that way. Chris would be able to answer better, but I haven't seen him around for quite some time now. 01:43:53 Is there a real desire to swap languages in PAL though? 01:44:05 I would strongly support it, but I"m not working on PAL. 01:44:15 (at the moment) 01:44:40 AluisioASG, RE: the environmental substitution patch i made: I think I made it against 2.2, not tip. 01:44:43 PAL's development is basically stalled. 01:48:05 Is there a reason for that? 01:52:21 We're waiting for PAL 3.0, I believe. 01:52:24 Hold on, I'll switch my network connection. BRB. 01:52:31 *** AluisioASG has quit (Quit: network switch) 02:02:55 *** DJRWolf has parted #portableapps (None) 02:17:40 *** habr100 (~habr100@bband-dyn182.95-103-142.t-com.sk) has joined #portableapps 02:19:33 *** habr100 has parted #portableapps (None) 02:21:24 *** AluisioASG (~kg-gecko@187.11.98.236) has joined #portableapps 02:21:25 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 02:22:50 welcome back AluisioASG 02:23:15 ty GordCaswell 02:23:20 yw 02:45:32 gluxon: What do you think of switching PAL to Lua? 02:48:38 AluisioASG: I've never tried Lua. 02:49:40 I'd have to disagree though, since it doesn't seem to have a very polished OOP -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_%28programming_language%29#Object-oriented_programming 02:49:43 I've realized that the problem with a compilable language is that we'll need to ship a compiler with it. 02:50:12 A compiler for the INI? 02:50:30 Custom code. 02:50:49 AluisioASG: Once I made the switch to OOP, I've wanted to literally turn all my code into Classes. 02:50:49 And I don't think we need OOP. 02:51:06 I see you don't program in JavaScript. 02:51:14 OOP isn't something you need. It's boosted organization. 02:51:43 * gluxon does not program in JavaScript 02:51:53 I want to though. Never found a big purpose though. 02:52:08 I always try to smudge my way through with some CSS magic in the end. 02:55:24 AluisioASG: What are you thinking of swapping to now? 02:57:44 What do you mean? 02:58:40 Programming languages for PAL. 03:01:43 Oh. Just a thought for now. I currently don't have time for such a work. 03:20:07 *** AluisioASG has quit (Quit: system reboot) 04:00:48 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:02:28 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:32:20 *** Venusaur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:33:00 *** Venusaur (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 07:16:17 *** habr100 (~habr100@bband-dyn182.95-103-142.t-com.sk) has joined #portableapps 07:24:42 *** habr100 has parted #portableapps (None) 08:49:30 *** CruelC (~1@46.173.3.68) has joined #portableapps 08:49:36 0hai 08:50:04 Windows 8 is suckage 08:52:49 *** CruelC has parted #portableapps (None) 09:26:01 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a5a5d.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 11:48:11 *** AluisioASG (~kg-gecko@2001:0:53aa:64c:18a7:13dc:44b5:f729) has joined #portableapps 11:48:11 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 12:29:41 *** AlleyKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:42:15 *** OliverK|away is now known as OliverK 14:09:53 *** AluisioASG is now known as AluisioASG|Away 14:28:56 *** ZAX07 (~ZAXO7@109.220.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) has joined #portableapps 14:28:56 *** ZAX07 has quit (Client Quit) 14:41:29 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|away 14:42:16 *** AluisioASG|Away is now known as AluisioASG 15:16:27 *** AluisioASG has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16:05:25 *** pa_8551 (1f357375@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.53.115.117) has joined #portableapps 16:05:59 *** pa_8551 is now known as [holygamer] 16:06:33 <[holygamer]> I have joined and created a post. Someone replied to that post and I got an email notification. I clicked on it to see the post. 16:07:08 <[holygamer]> Now I try to login today and it says my details are not recognized. I changed my password using the pass reset but it still says my details aren't recognized! 16:08:21 *** [holygamer] has quit (Client Quit) 16:13:01 *** holygamer (1f357375@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.53.115.117) has joined #portableapps 16:14:18 Can someone help me? I have joined and created a post. Someone replied to that post and I got an email notification. I clicked on it to see the post. Now I try to login today and it says my details are not recognized. I changed my password using the pass reset but it still says my details aren't recognized when I logout then login again. 16:17:02 *** holygamer has parted #portableapps (None) 16:18:02 *** holygamer (1f357375@gateway/web/freenode/ip.31.53.115.117) has joined #portableapps 16:18:09 Can someone help me? I have joined and created a post. Someone replied to that post and I got an email notification. I clicked on it to see the post. Now I try to login today and it says my details are not recognized. I changed my password using the pass reset but it still says my details aren't recognized when I logout then login again. 16:35:24 *** OliverK|away is now known as OliverK 16:36:20 You don't have email support so that's why I'm doing a live chat. 16:41:43 "help!" 16:42:14 help! 16:42:14 holygamer: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 16:42:35 Can someone help me? I have joined and created a post. Someone replied to that post and I got an email notification. I clicked on it to see the post. Now I try to login today and it says my details are not recognized. I changed my password using the pass reset but it still says my details aren't recognized when I logout then login again. 17:08:20 *** holygamer has quit (Quit: Page closed) 17:14:59 *** habr100 (~habr100@bband-dyn182.95-103-142.t-com.sk) has joined #portableapps 17:15:10 *** habr100 has parted #portableapps (None) 17:20:36 *** Venusaur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:21:20 *** Venusaur (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 17:59:30 *** jm2 (~quassel@unaffiliated/jm2) has joined #portableapps 17:59:54 i think there may be a problem with the portable apps installers and launchers 18:00:34 they prohibit installations to "C:\Program Files" and, in some cases, launching apps stored in "C:\Program Files" 18:01:10 i don't know why that restriction is in place, but that is obviously by design 18:01:56 however, the installers and some launchers detect folders beginning with "C:\Program Files " as being "C:\Program Files" 18:04:51 i assume the developers don't care what you name your apps or where you store them (other than for some reason preventing you from installing to C:\Program Files) so i guess this is a bug 18:05:06 what you name your folders* 18:08:41 *** ronjn___ (~ronjn@p5B13E59C.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 18:12:24 *** ronjn has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:16:05 jm2: we don't prohibit installation to Program Files 18:16:10 that's a windows permission, not an installer. 18:18:50 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|away 18:20:59 Gizmokid2005: oh, okay, i've never tried installing to Program Files 18:21:30 jm2: Yep, it's definitely not an installer setup, it's a machine setup. I'm willing to bet if you tried you could make no changes to Program files. 18:21:38 when i install to Program Files (Portable), i get an error message that Program Files is a prohibited directory 18:21:42 *** OliverK|away is now known as OliverK 18:21:54 yes, because we recognize the lack of permissions to prompt that error. 18:22:20 I can create directories in Program Files 18:22:38 and delete them with a UAC privilege escalation or whatever 18:23:19 Right, then you need to run the installers with elevated privileges. 18:23:42 also, i have full access to C:\Program Files Portable, so the installer must be messed up when it tells me that C:\Program Files is a prohibited directory - that is an irrelevant error message 18:24:07 Gizmokid2005: even if i did that, for some launchers, launching the app fails if the app is stored in C:\Program Files Portable 18:24:14 jm2: if you're not going to install to Program files, you should just install to C:\PortableApps 18:24:27 Gizmokid2005: sorry, i haven't been clear 18:24:59 i install to a directory called "C:\ Program Files Portable". The installer and some launchers detect this directory as "C:\Program Files" 18:25:53 the installer should dtreat "C:\Program Files Portable" just as i treats "C:\PortableApps" 18:26:44 so should the launcher 18:26:53 launchers* 18:26:57 does that make sense? 18:33:08 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|away 19:19:37 *** rewallac (43af879a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.175.135.154) has joined #portableapps 19:20:24 can anyone help me install a program that is not design as portable on PortableApps?? 19:36:07 *** gluxon (~gluxon@unaffiliated/gluxon) has joined #portableapps 19:40:11 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 19:44:10 *** rewallac has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19:50:55 *** AluisioASG (~kg-gecko@187.57.9.141) has joined #portableapps 19:50:56 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 19:52:11 jm2: That's a known bug. 19:53:41 Gizmokid2005: We *do* prohibit installs to Program Files. We don't care if the user has rights to do that. 20:01:27 AluisioASG: is there any workaround for launchers that don't allow launching from dirs in C:\ that start with "Program Files" ? 20:02:14 jm2: Yes. I'll PM you with the details. 20:28:17 many thanks 20:29:13 You're welcome. 21:11:02 *** Venusaur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:11:51 *** Venusaur (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 21:26:05 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 21:31:27 *** pa_5339 (c1fb4df3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.251.77.243) has joined #portableapps 21:31:33 Hello Every One ;-) 21:31:37 I'm installing the platforme right now and the process is freesing since 15 min. 21:31:52 Should I reset every thuing or wait a little bit? 21:32:14 Thanks in advance for your help ^_^ 21:33:20 pa_5339: It shouldn't take that long. 1 minute is already too much. 21:34:29 Really so I have to start over ? 21:36:56 Something is obviously wrong. I'll reset it. 21:37:58 Thanks for your prompt reply Aluisio ;-) Bisous 21:38:50 You're welcome. 21:40:38 *** pa_5339 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 21:42:40 *** AluisioASG has quit (Quit: Bonanza!)