00:06:33 *** JacobMastel (~Jacob@c-98-232-160-131.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 00:18:14 *** AluisioASG|Away is now known as AluisioASG 00:23:15 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@mctnnbsa51w-156034013141.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) has joined #portableapps 00:23:16 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 00:23:16 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 00:23:17 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 00:23:24 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 00:41:41 hey ZachThibeau 00:41:51 hello AluisioASG 00:42:53 how you doing? 00:44:59 pretty good 00:46:12 just working with a friend in creating a networked news site related to gaming and other stuff 01:08:17 *** george2 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01:09:38 Ok, Platform 11.0 is away! 01:09:55 JohnTHaller: I noticed 01:10:08 and I must say nice article on the personal appeal 01:11:36 You like it? It's based on wikipedia's campaign which I like and spoke to them about. I was a bit worried people would think it cheesy. 01:13:39 actually I thought I detected a hint of wikipedia's style campaign in there 01:13:51 *** george2 (~42@wl-dhcp201-61.Mines.EDU) has joined #portableapps 01:14:05 It's shamelessly based on it. Because I liked the honesty of it. And it worked for them. I met the guys who ran it at OSCON last year. 01:15:21 I don't think it would do any harm and I think in the end it could help 01:16:05 That's what I'm hoping. The loans are an issue that I worry will force me to take more time away from PA.c in the near future unless we raise some funds. 01:17:04 if I land my new job I'd be able to do more 01:20:14 like I want to be able to contribute more not only through what I'm already doing but being able to do more finacially 01:20:42 I hear you, man. But remember, what you're already doing is invaluable as well. 01:21:07 *** george2 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01:21:38 this is just my way of saying I can do more 01:25:29 Thanks :) 01:28:42 I'm slowly moving up in life :) 01:31:38 anyways yeah a friend of mine and myself are working on a small project dedicated to gaming and geeky goodness in general so PortableApps.com will get some props there for sure 01:31:47 Yes, you are, sir :) 01:31:56 Cool 01:34:31 Hm. 11b3 updater simply closes when I ask it to update. 01:34:41 *** george2 (~42@wl-dhcp178-185.Mines.EDU) has joined #portableapps 01:37:44 Odd. It fires right up here when I test it. 01:38:44 "Manage Apps" -> "Check for updates" -> "Next" -> "WTF?" 01:39:55 I think I managed to see a "installation completed successfully" right before the updater window closes. Let's hope it's an isolated case. 01:41:09 landed a new job where I'm being paid $14.79 plus commission and where I can work on my own coding in between call work as long as it doesn't interfere with the actual job they say 01:42:59 Oh, that's a nice arrangement. It's not job-related, so there's no worry of copyright issues right? 01:43:24 no worries of copyright issues 01:46:17 so works out in my favour 01:46:28 yeah. nice. 02:02:37 *** GordCaswell (GordCaswel@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 02:02:40 GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer 02:02:54 hi all 02:02:59 hola Gord 02:03:21 Like Zach, I too, am in the process of getting a new job, and once that occours, I will also be making a financial contribution :) 02:03:32 Why thank you, Gord :) 02:03:54 I'm hoping the appeal and all the new releases will help a bit, too 02:06:06 I mean, I know what I'm doing already is appreciated, but I still feel we, the "active" contributors, should try to take some of the burden of you; Set an example, so to speak 02:06:57 I'm not sure if you guys realize how much your help is appreciated, to be honest. It is. 02:07:50 In that case, where's my complimentary PortableApps.com Companion :P LOL 02:07:59 Had to have some sort of comeback 02:08:01 * GordCaswell grins 02:08:06 I'll buy you one once my rent is paid 02:08:14 :-P 02:08:31 ouch... 02:08:37 JohnTHaller: which is the minimum donation in order to appear as supporter/sponsor? 02:08:49 Hehe, I'm just teasing you Gord 02:09:13 yeah, i know, i was ouching in regards to paying your rent...i feel the pain 02:09:15 There are specific levels here: http://portableapps.com/donate/sponsor 02:10:52 If I donate $25 now and $75 in the future, do I get promoted? 02:10:56 I was hoping the platform sponsorship would be more successful when I introduced it earlier. 02:11:54 If you ask nicely, yes :) You'd need to do a regular donation and make a note in the comment field so I don't miss it. It says 3+ months now, but it's basically indefinite at the moment. 02:15:06 Is there a way to have some kind of target for donors to aim for? For example, a running tally of donations, aiming for, say, $5,000 (or whatever arbitrary number is needed at the moment?) That way, donors are able to see progress with the campaign as it runs, and hopefully, as dollar amounts get higher, feel more incentive to donate at all 02:15:22 Ideally something posted on the site 02:15:26 I'd have to put it together manually. 02:15:39 hmm, k 02:15:57 Have we "asked" for donations from any big sponsors? 02:16:22 Nope 02:16:53 Well, typically, companies don't sponsor unless asked to.. 02:17:03 Not quite sure who to ask, to be honest 02:17:55 My Robotics team has like 5 sponsors, and not all of them are technology related. Another team had "JCPenny", that surprised me. 02:18:31 None of the sponsors we have came to us, we had to come to them. 02:19:15 So, just saying why the PortableApps.com sponsor launch could have been more successful.. 02:20:03 Yeah, good point. Thing is we're not a non-profit. (the idea is for it to be self-supporting and be a fulltime job for me and some others) So, I figured typical companies may not be interested. 02:22:13 From what I've seen, the term non-profit is very *very* loose. Take College Board for example -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Board 02:22:55 Their higher ups make a lot of money, yet they are still classified as a non-profit. 02:24:36 And it seems the definition of a nonprofit organization permits some of revenue to go to you. -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_organization 02:24:39 Here's one organization I've come across that may be able to help: linuxfund.org 02:24:57 I wonder if Google would fund us.. :-/ 02:25:33 I wonder if Google would buy us and then do things right? 02:25:42 it wouldn't hrut to try. The worst that could happen is they say no... 02:25:55 GordCaswell: Exactly, ask as many companies as we can :D 02:26:02 HA! Buy us, I could see. Maybe. Do things right....... 02:26:37 I would buy us :D 02:28:33 heh 02:28:56 I think Google would buy us and then dismiss PortableApps.com. And then prebundle WBFD with Chrome OS Portable. 02:29:31 Nah, Google wouldn't *buy* us, but I think there's a good chance they would see the usefulness in PortableApps. 02:30:53 Oh, that reminds me: John, how do you mark fast-tracked apps? 02:31:55 Hey, applying for this would be good idea -> http://www.google.com.ua/edu/rise/ 02:32:20 We need some sort of system. At the moment, we don't. Maybe a subject tag? 02:32:46 We won "most likely to change the way you do everything" award on SourceForge.net once, right? And we also have many kids learning programming for the first time. 02:33:02 We swept the SF awards that year 02:33:24 Except we don't work directly with schools 02:34:26 Oh wait, I missed that -.- 02:37:28 *** george2 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02:41:06 *** JWHough (446b8039@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.107.128.57) has joined #portableapps 02:41:07 JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055 02:41:25 hey JWHough!!! 02:42:09 hey AlusioASG 02:42:12 your a developer 02:42:27 JWHough! :) 02:42:34 :D 02:42:45 Wow, this is the longest list of voiced develpers I've ever seen in this chat together.. 02:43:00 wait does AluisioASG go by something else? 02:43:03 Maybe it's because of the platform release :) It's nice seeing everybody in here 02:43:17 GizmoBot: def AluisioASG 02:43:17 formerly kAlug 02:43:26 ah 02:43:29 argh... didn't worked 02:43:34 AluisioASG, it's .def 02:43:36 I don't think I've ever seen Jacob Mastel here.. 02:43:38 .def 02:43:38 GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer 02:43:41 .def gluxon 02:43:42 gluxon: Sorry, but I don't know you. 02:43:47 .def gluxon is fun 02:43:47 .def 02:43:47 gluxon: Def manipulation is only allowed in #gizmokid2005, #gizmokid2005-def 02:43:48 .def AluisioASG 02:43:49 JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055 02:43:50 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 02:44:04 Oo, this is a good time to show off papingbot. 02:44:22 Okay, C#-like, not Java-like setter. 02:44:30 Just type in !add and it'll add to the list of pings whenever pa_**** joins :D 02:45:05 I'm debating following up 11.0 with an 11.1 on Tues or Wed and adding in .NET and Java app support to the app store. Thoughts? 02:45:52 Well I know I'd appreciate Java support. 02:46:11 I think we could add .NET 4.5 support to the Launcher before. IIRC, it drops that Client/Full Profile thing. 02:46:26 Just need to build in the ability for the updater to download jPortable directly when an app needs it (after asking the user) and the appropriate translations. 02:46:33 haha of course you do gluxon :P 02:47:02 :) 02:47:14 Go for it! That way we can push out that list of java apps that are languishing in the "ready for release" thread 02:48:18 Yeah, I know. I feel bad about those. Especially since some of them will be very worthy additions. 02:48:29 And it'd be nice to get Paint.NET and the others out on the .NET side as well. 02:49:11 Paint.net is slick 02:52:15 Night time for me. Adios! 02:52:17 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 03:00:02 AluisioASG: I think you may have been affected by this earlier: http://portableapps.com/node/32986 03:01:42 I don't think so. It don't even downloaded it. 03:01:54 *** djb29_ (~djb29@69.31.87.220) has joined #portableapps 03:02:00 Anyway, I've downloaded and installed it manually. 03:04:36 Weird. 03:06:25 Quick 11.0.1 update, and everyone gets to instantly try out platform incremental updates: http://portableapps.com/news/2012-09-27--portableapps.com-platform-11.0-released#comment-199202 03:07:15 *** djb29 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:07:44 Got the same bug. I assume it has something to do with my current setup. 03:08:09 You have one of the non-GUI options like StartMinimized or WIn7 taskbar disabled? 03:10:55 Not as far as I know. The funny thing is, it was working fine 'till 11b3->11.0. 03:11:10 odd install path? 03:12:03 keyboard navigation on? 03:12:10 Nope; but I'm running it on Windows 7 from Windows 8's drive. 03:12:16 Yes, it's on. 03:12:30 You need to manually highlight it. It's not pre-selected. 03:13:14 JTH: Something like this in the header is what I was thinking of WRT a "target": http://imgur.com/lvpQn 03:13:23 Ah, now it worked. Guess I got used with all-selected-by-default on updates. 03:13:39 BTW, what is the NewApp.ini file for? 03:13:41 Yeah, we can't with the alternate selection method. It's listed as a known issue. 03:13:58 It's really only intended for screen reader users as a stop-gap. 03:15:35 I've it enabled because I'm more of a keyboard guy. 03:15:53 I'd recommend against it. It's kludgey right now. 03:17:02 As long as it doesn't break the entire Platform... 03:17:14 * AluisioASG is using Firefox's beta channel 03:22:30 *** JWHough has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03:24:56 *** AluisioASG has quit (Quit: Good night for everyone!) 03:50:35 *** JWHough (446b8039@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.107.128.57) has joined #portableapps 03:50:36 JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055 03:53:02 JohnTHaller: you said we got nearly 600 apps and test. I have 60+. Which means I account for over 10% of the database. hahaha 03:53:15 Heh 03:53:32 I'm gonna add an advanced option at some point for people who want everything. That'll make it easier. 03:54:48 Here's a thought that might bring in some more cash: At the Bronze level, including an 8GB WBFD. I know this would cut into the amount of cash being received in the short-term, but I think it might entice a few more users to donate at that level, boosting income in the long run. Or, adding some in-between levels that have that advantage, with sizes increasing based on the amount. Something like: $150 - same as bronze, plus 8GB WBFD, $200 03:54:49 - 16GB, $250 - 32GB 03:55:09 JWHough, are you counting your dead projects towards that total ;) 03:56:05 *** Aman_ (b6485fcb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.72.95.203) has joined #portableapps 03:56:23 help 03:56:34 help! 03:56:38 Note, John: I plan on buying a WBFD for my own personal use, I'm just waiting for the 64GB version to come out 03:56:44 Aman_, how can we help you? 03:57:12 is there any way in windows 7 so that I can minimize the portable apps icon to system tray 03:57:14 ? 03:57:51 you bet: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#disablewin7taskbar 03:59:09 Aman_: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 03:59:09 Aman_: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 03:59:12 The ability to do that by checkbox in the options for the platform is coming, but for now, it's a manual tweak as listed. 04:01:03 I want it to minimize to system tray... after clicking on close button application get closed. Rather I want it to make minimize.. any luck?? 04:01:52 Aman_: Ah ok. Configurable buttons (you can set each to Exit, Eject or minimize) are coming this month in 12.0 04:02:16 Ohh thats nice... 04:02:30 Aman_: For now, just click anywhere outside the platform to minimize. It minimizes when it loses focus. 04:02:31 Thank you very much for your nice help 04:02:45 sure... thanks 04:02:53 You're welcome 04:02:54 *** Aman_ has quit (Quit: Page closed) 04:12:17 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:17:29 Alright, very much need sleep. Gotta release more apps n such tomorrow. Gnight all :) 04:17:44 night 04:17:46 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 04:59:20 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving) 05:02:23 *** Bry8Star has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 05:49:10 *** JWHough has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06:28:37 *** george2 (~42@wl-dhcp178-87.Mines.EDU) has joined #portableapps 07:18:55 *** pa_6772 (58c81a58@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.200.26.88) has joined #portableapps 07:19:32 *** pa_6772 is now known as vince 07:19:50 *** vince is now known as vince999 07:20:57 hi there, I wondered if I can get any useful hints here: I have the problem with downloading the updates for portable applications with the official updater 07:21:21 I get the SendRequest download error every time for every application 07:21:48 the link that is given in the error message window works just fine when re-typed in the browser 07:22:49 I searched for any solutions and found that others (but apparently not many) have encountered the same problem - but I could find no solution 07:23:43 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs84248.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 07:25:13 the problem has been there for ... well, almost the beginning - the update worked only for a short some time when it was still new in the beta version of the platform 07:25:45 any suggestions? 07:26:48 vince999: Does it work when you type the URL into Internet Explorer? 07:27:03 (the updater uses IE's proxy settings) 07:31:01 yes, it works fine 07:31:22 the download starts after a few seconds of waiting 07:34:22 oh, no, wait - actually I have to confirm that the file is safe to download, I forgot about that 07:34:45 (i tested it before, but as I never use IE forgot about it) 07:34:53 could that be the reason? 07:35:30 I don't think so. The updater only uses IE's proxy settings, not its engine. 07:36:25 I suggest that you post to the forums about the problem. 07:36:53 ok, thanks 07:37:06 I'll try to do that :) 07:37:09 cheers 07:37:27 Cheers! :) 07:57:55 *** vince999 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09:10:56 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 09:12:55 *** Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) has joined #portableapps 09:55:43 *** kazmirz (c200b580@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.0.181.128) has joined #portableapps 09:55:49 hello 09:56:06 I have a question 09:57:21 in older version of Portable App Platform, there was a gread function, when I started Typin any fraze, the list of apps was filtered by this fraze 09:57:49 how can i do that now i newer version?? 11:11:20 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs84248.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 11:12:34 kazmirz: IIRC, you need to press / or F3 first. 11:18:46 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 12:25:03 *** Sk1llSh0t (~Instantbi@74.124.168.218) has joined #portableapps 12:27:50 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@d54C35985.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 12:37:55 *** rainroom69 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:46:35 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has parted #portableapps (None) 12:51:09 *** pa_3915 (63efe235@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.239.226.53) has joined #portableapps 12:51:31 help 12:51:32 pa_3915: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 12:52:11 can you udate the platform over the old one or is it a new install? 12:58:22 *** Sk1llSh0t has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12:59:17 Got it. Its automatic. Cool! 12:59:20 you update just as usual,the apps and settings will stay in place 12:59:58 *** pa_3915 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 13:06:32 *** kazmirz has quit (Quit: Page closed) 13:07:29 *** Sk1llSh0t (~Instantbi@74.124.168.218) has joined #portableapps 13:16:45 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-68-173-237-124.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 13:20:40 *** Sk1llSh0t has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:33:43 *** Sk1llSh0t (~Instantbi@74.124.168.218) has joined #portableapps 14:05:25 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@d54C35985.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 14:14:43 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 15:06:43 *** ronjn___ (~ronjn@p5B13ED80.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 15:06:48 *** ronjn has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15:47:32 *** AluisioASG (~kg-gecko@201-43-2-254.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 15:47:32 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 16:05:58 *** AluisioASG has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 16:32:13 *** Muhari (Muhari@bnc.excellent-servers.se) has joined #portableapps 16:35:42 Great work hope too see mumble client as portable apps someday 16:35:56 portable app 16:36:01 Correction 16:36:08 *** Muhari has parted #portableapps ("Lähdössä") 16:39:32 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 17:03:43 *** Blaine1431 (ce15eab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.21.234.182) has joined #portableapps 17:04:37 * Blaine1431 waves at everyone 17:05:08 Hey does anyone know how to create a theme for the portableapps launcher? 17:06:37 Is it as simple as dropping in an image? 17:06:49 or can it be more complex than that? 17:24:10 *** dpolivaev (5f9d34e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.157.52.226) has joined #portableapps 17:24:39 *** dpolivaev has quit (Client Quit) 17:24:44 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a5a5d.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 17:26:02 *** rainroom69 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:28:50 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@d54C35985.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 17:37:32 *** Blaine1431 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 17:43:19 *** rainroom69 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:27:50 *** pie_ (~pie@unaffiliated/pie-/x-0787662) has joined #portableapps 19:28:02 What language is the portableapps start menu written in? 19:47:30 *** AluisioASG (~kg-gecko@201-43-2-254.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 19:47:31 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 19:47:42 pie_: Still there? 19:48:14 yup 19:49:08 The menu is written in Delphi (the latest version). 19:55:08 *** Bry8Star has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 19:57:37 *** Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) has joined #portableapps 20:07:04 *** AluisioASG has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 20:47:10 *** Sk1llSh0t has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 21:59:56 *** gluxon (~gluxon@unaffiliated/gluxon) has joined #portableapps 22:22:43 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@mctnnbsa51w-156034013141.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) has joined #portableapps 22:22:44 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 22:22:44 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 22:22:45 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 22:23:26 hey JacobMastel long time since I seen your around 22:25:27 Yeah it's been a while. 22:26:22 Huh, a message from Gizmodo bot that was sent from 2010... weird flashback to an ancient conversation :P 22:26:28 *GizmoBot 22:26:34 lol wow 22:26:44 so what have you been up to lately? 22:26:55 Well, I just got married in June :) 22:27:22 College has been incredibly busy, but I suppose that's to be expected for a junior in an engineering program... 22:28:25 congrats then for the marriage :) 22:28:37 and I can imagine for college 22:29:35 I keep telling myself it'll be over and then I'll be less busy... but I know it's a lie. I don't think I've ever been in a position where my life wasn't busy : 22:29:40 :P 22:29:51 I guess I just like life being crazy! 22:30:03 well my time table just fried up till november unless otherwise 22:30:09 I just quit my job 22:31:09 work was getting to be intolerable and ethics, what's ethics? anyways one thing led to another so at this moment I'm searching in between until I go for training for my new job I've already been accepted for but again in november 22:34:57 What kind of issues? 22:43:24 just overall issues where I was being removed from certain call cues where I was actually doing well various other things where it's just bad management 22:44:21 Oh. Those kind of jobs are always fun. Hopefully you'll have better luck with the next job. 22:46:36 and I mean I was being removed from the call cue where I was trained in and they removed me saying that I was doing poorly even though stats say other wise 22:48:24 Ha, yeah I've definitely had one of those kind of jobs. 22:48:33 At least you found a better place to work. 22:50:21 *** AluisioASG (~kg-blade@187.46.164.232) has joined #portableapps 22:50:22 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 22:50:33 *** AluisioASG has quit (Client Quit) 22:51:53 *** AluisioASG (~kg-blade@187.46.164.232) has joined #portableapps 22:51:53 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 22:53:34 hmm for sure 22:54:23 Anything else interesting going on with you? I see PA.c has jumped several updates since i've been gone :P 22:57:08 well been working on PChat 2.1 (skipping 2.0), giving up the old xchat engine for something else but keeping the plugin functionality. finally living on my own as the last time I saw you I was still living with my parents so that's a bonus for me 23:04:06 *** AluisioASG has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:06:22 Yeah I think that's a pretty big deal for everyone really. 23:06:41 I was pretty happy to get out of my parent's place even though I had/have a really good relationship with them. 23:14:58 well I have a pretty good relationship with them too but yeah finally to be on my own was great especially since I was 23 at the time lol 23:58:29 *** Bry8Star_ (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) has joined #portableapps 23:59:54 *** Bry8Star has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)