00:01:12 *** Bry8Star_ is now known as Bry8Star 01:13:03 *** djb29_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01:27:36 *** djb29 (~djb29@69.31.87.220) has joined #portableapps 01:57:20 *** JacobMastel has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01:58:58 *** JacobMastel (~Jacob@c-98-232-160-131.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:38:49 *** ZAX07 (~ZAXO7@196.103.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) has joined #portableapps 02:39:28 *** ZAX07 has quit (Client Quit) 02:56:44 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:38:00 *** vf2nsr (~PatrickPo@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 03:38:01 vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620 03:38:58 If any of our friendly forum moderators sees this can they modify http://portableapps.com/node/34674 to put BUG in front of it? 03:39:47 *** vf2nsr has quit (Client Quit) 03:53:11 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:20:33 *** ronjn___ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:21:11 *** ronjn (~ronjn@p579D13A3.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 04:58:57 *** JacobMastel has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:04:16 *** djb29 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:04:26 *** djb29 (~djb29@69.31.87.220) has joined #portableapps 07:22:25 *** nyannyan (5f33fe92@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.51.254.146) has joined #portableapps 07:22:31 hi 07:24:08 help! 07:24:08 nyannyan: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 07:26:02 i am at work and i can't open libreoffice because "the other instancy of this proccess already running" but it is not true. can someone help? 07:38:45 *** nyannyan has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07:41:05 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~system@gateway/tor-sasl/tpfc-system) has joined #portableapps 08:11:18 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08:52:32 *** Bry8Star has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:54:42 *** Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) has joined #portableapps 09:29:46 *** AlleyKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:26:35 If I wanted to change where programs search for the Data directory, what would I have to do? 10:32:14 where can I find the source code for the application launchers? :/ im having quite a bit of trouble 10:37:33 it would be greatif there was an ini file for specifying paths :/ 11:25:22 help! 11:25:24 pie_: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 12:09:41 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~system@gateway/tor-sasl/tpfc-system) has joined #portableapps 12:14:58 pie_: I think the Launcher is hardcoded to search the Data directory in its own directory. 12:15:17 PAL source code is at http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/launcher/ . 12:16:06 yeah, it is, im looking for the source code for the launchers so I can hard code it somewhere else. im not a good coder but if its easy i suppose i can make it get it from an ini file 12:16:44 and I dont know delphi so id be gluing stuff together from whatever i can find 12:20:22 do you know where I can find the other launchers? 12:22:14 What do you mean with "the other launchers"? PortableApps.com also uses PAL, which is configured with a per-app INI file. 12:22:25 * also -> only 13:00:52 well, for example Firefox portable 13:10:06 where can I find said ini files? 13:11:55 *** mercuureal (db89316c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.219.137.49.108) has joined #portableapps 13:13:03 App\AppInfo\Launcher\(appname).ini 13:14:06 hey can anyone give an opinion about portableapps updater? is it slow on your internet connection? Y no P2P for updating or I can even have my "Free Download Manager" done it faster... anyone agree? 13:19:41 *** mercuureal has quit (Quit: Page closed) 13:29:13 TPFC-SYSTEM, so to change the data directory location i would just have to modify the code in the PAL launcher and replace the launcher component(I have no clue how to do that) in the current application launchers? 13:29:45 You'd have to modify the code and recompile the launcher. 13:30:55 how would I do that? 13:31:06 recompile the launcher that is 13:31:29 I don't know. I'm not a Delphi developer. :( 13:31:35 well...I suppose I could figure it out if I could find the source code for the individual launchers but thats what I cant find 13:32:15 theres a nasty hack i can do with symlinks but that results in infinite recursion when i try to compress my stuff with 7zip 13:32:15 The source code (and the binary) for each launcher is exactly the same. Only the INI files are different. 13:33:55 then what about the splash screen /etc? When I try to extract the launcher with 7zip each program has some stuff embedded 13:35:16 The splash screen is at App\AppInfo\Launcher\Splash.jpg. 13:37:12 firefox portable has no Launcher directory in AppInfo 13:39:31 No idea about that. E.g. Chromium Portable ( http://crportable.sourceforge.net/ ) has that directory. 13:40:01 I'm just an user, not a PAL developer. (I already mentioned that I don't know Delphi.) 13:49:36 a'ight, well thanks anyway 13:49:56 my question still stands for anyone who canhelp 14:26:44 *** Guest71838 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:27:56 *** Guest23264 (~Bensawsom@c-50-138-199-141.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 15:27:26 *** AluisioASG (~kg-gecko@200-232-216-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 15:27:26 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 15:30:07 pie_, TPFC-SYSTEM: Most new apps use PAL ( written in NSIS, source code at http://hg.sf.net/hgweb/portableapps/launcher/ ); some older apps (like the Firefox family) use custom-written launchers (also in NSIS). 15:33:08 *** dpolivaev (5f9d34e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.157.52.226) has joined #portableapps 15:33:57 *** dpolivaev has quit (Client Quit) 15:33:58 oh, hello, theres some good stuff in Other/Source for firefox 15:52:44 hmm it seems the data directory isnt necessarily hardcoded, most programs seem to have an optional *program name*Portable.ini file that contains variables for the things contained in the data directory, now i just hope that thats everything and theres nothing thats hardcoded for the Data directory 15:58:15 pie_: 1. To which *AppName*Portable.ini you're referring to? 2. It's not going to be that easy. Grep the launcher's source code for 'Data'. 15:59:12 thats what i was guessing, the PAL launcher or the individual app launchers(these are the ones im having trouble finding)? 16:01:35 For all effects, PAL's source code *is* the launcher's source code. 16:12:19 "some older apps (like the Firefox family) use custom-written launchers" 16:15:20 the AppNamePortable.ini in the Other/Source dir 16:16:13 *** ZAX07 (~ZAXO7@196.103.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) has joined #portableapps 16:16:36 when doing the grep should I ignore results from the "Manual" folder? 16:16:59 Nope, that's just an example for the user. Read the Readme.txt for details. 16:17:26 Yes, ignore the manual; scan only for *.nsh and *.nsi files. 16:18:09 right but placing it next to the launcher does seem to do it 16:19:15 everything seems to use $DataDirectory unless i missed something 16:20:02 *** george2 has quit (Quit: bye!) 16:22:01 hmm my bad, goind grep -r . 'Data\\' does seem to retturn a few entries 16:22:21 is debug.nsh and generatorwisard.nsi of interest? 16:24:29 Nope. 16:28:37 if so many places use datadir i really dont see why these dont: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QUZwWJk1 16:29:17 a few that are DefaultData got mixed in, in this case those arent important either 16:32:41 Old code, perhaps? 16:32:52 Anyway, I have to go now. Bye. 16:33:08 well, thanks very much 16:33:21 is it safe to replace with $DataDir? 16:33:23 *** AluisioASG has quit (Quit: Heed. Obey. Serve.) 16:33:28 i have no clue what im doing 16:36:45 I suggest that you replace Data with whatever directory name you want and leave DefaultData alone. 16:37:59 i never said i wanted to touch defaultdata, its probably fine where it is, my guess is it gets copied to datadir whenever it cant find what its looking for there 16:39:49 Alright. When you asked "is it safe to replace with $DataDir?", I didn't know what you planned to replace. :) 16:41:56 ahh :) my bad 16:43:02 i really dont want to hardcode it because it would mean i have to recompile 20 times 16:45:35 Well, not knowing the codebase I don't know what $DataDir means. So I don't know if it is safe to replace. :( 16:51:31 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 17:02:14 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 17:51:27 *** JacobMastel (~Jacob@c-98-232-160-131.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 18:10:26 *** Bry8Star_ (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) has joined #portableapps 18:11:54 *** Bry8Star has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18:13:11 *** Bry8Star_ is now known as Bry8Star 18:24:32 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a5a5d.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 18:35:13 *** Peeter (bb8768ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.135.104.173) has joined #portableapps 18:35:21 Hello 18:35:32 Im have a one questions 18:35:55 First, Portable Apps is compatible with Windows 8? 18:36:51 Yes, it is. :) 18:37:30 mmm, are you shure? 18:38:43 because when running Portable Apps, showed the blue screen 18:38:55 Yes. First, the changelog mentions some fairly trivial Win8-specific issues. They wouldn't be fixing them if the Platform was completely broken. 18:38:57 http://portableapps.com/platform/changelog 18:39:06 "FIXED: Windows 8 shows as "Unknown OS" in About dialog" 18:39:30 Second, I run KVIrc Portable on Windows 8 right now. :D 18:39:46 (I don't use the Platform myself, though.) 18:40:59 ok, and Portable Apps is oopen source? 18:42:01 What PortableApps.com has developed (such as the Launcher and the Platform) are open source. 18:42:16 Some PA.c apps, however, are not open source. 18:42:31 if to if I am looking for the source code 18:44:08 Some of it can be found at http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/ . 18:44:41 thank you 18:45:22 I found the Platform source as well: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Source%20(PortableApps.com%20Plat)/PortableApps.com%20Platform%2011.0/ 18:46:52 thank you, , excellent day that passes 18:46:59 *** Peeter has quit (Quit: Page closed) 18:48:42 I cant find where datadir is defined :/ 18:49:26 :( 18:50:54 StrCpy $DataDirectory $TMP\$AppIDLive\Data 18:50:55 hmm 18:51:27 it seems portableapps likes to keep files in the temp folder, Id think ramdisk-like constructs would be used >:/ 18:52:31 StrCpy $DataDirectory $EXEDIR\Data 18:52:32 wut 18:53:14 Hmm. Sounds like $DataDirectory isn't Data after all. :/ 18:53:27 hold on 18:53:30 * pie_ rereads some things 18:53:44 ./Segments/RunLocally.nsh: StrCpy $DataDirectory $TMP\$AppIDLive\Data 18:53:51 ./Segments/Variables.nsh: StrCpy $DataDirectory $EXEDIR\Data 18:53:55 *** ZAX07 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 18:53:56 i guess i need to read the context 18:54:13 *** ZAX07 (~ZAXO7@196.103.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) has joined #portableapps 18:55:14 Ah, indeed. 18:59:04 any idea what live mode is? 18:59:25 ahh here we go http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/ref/launcher.ini/livemode.html 19:00:06 basically for livecd kinda stuff, so i dont need to worry about it 19:00:49 though it would still be cool if some kind of ramdisk-like approach were used 19:02:21 I think "a ramdisk-like approach" would need to install drivers (= require admin rights) in order to successfully fool the application that it's running from a hard drive. :( 19:04:00 oh right, i didnt think this through, i was thinking of something else 19:04:42 it could be done in user space but the program would need to be able to handle that, so itd require modifyin the program source 19:06:22 to get it to read it from an ini i think i just need to replace StrCpy $DataDirectory $EXEDIR\Data with ReadINIStr 19:06:59 Yes, I think that will work. :) 19:07:36 this means it should be easy to modify the start menu so that i dont have to use my dirty symlink hack for what im doing 19:09:01 I havent a clue how to code in nsis 19:09:25 Me neither. :/ 19:10:09 *** pie_ has quit (Disconnected by services) 19:10:09 *** pie__ (~pie@92-249-147-241.pool.digikabel.hu) has joined #portableapps 19:10:14 *** pie__ has quit (Changing host) 19:10:14 *** pie__ (~pie@unaffiliated/pie-/x-0787662) has joined #portableapps 19:14:07 *** pie__ has quit (Client Quit) 19:21:08 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 19:47:59 *** ZAX07 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 20:37:37 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@mctnnbsa51w-156034013141.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) has joined #portableapps 20:37:38 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 20:37:38 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 20:37:39 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 21:42:56 *** AluisioASG (~kg-gecko@200-232-216-41.dsl.telesp.net.br) has joined #portableapps 21:42:56 AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug. 21:45:04 Interesting discussion this afternoon. 22:05:08 *** pa_5769 (4b56c4ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.86.196.171) has joined #portableapps 22:05:22 help 22:05:23 pa_5769: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 22:05:45 pa_5769: How can we help you? 22:06:12 only question I have is how to get portable apps to auto start when I insert US stick in computer USB 22:07:08 I don't think that's possible anymore. Microsoft has disabled autostart for security reasons. 22:07:32 on usb devices 22:07:51 that makes sense 22:08:08 We have an app here, which you can use to start the Platform automatically in computers you control. 22:08:22 what is it 22:08:41 how do i get it 22:09:21 Gimme a minute, I'll find it. 22:09:26 this is my home computer som I control it it is win7 22:11:33 Here is it: http://portableapps.com/node/13770 . It's quite old, so it doesn't work automatically with our latest releases. Just rename the Start.exe in the root of your drive to StartPortableApps.exe. 22:12:26 Thanks alot will try it out 22:12:47 *** pa_5769 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:13:45 It's time for someone to update that thing. 22:20:07 *** AlleyKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:48:34 *** gluxon (~gluxon@unaffiliated/gluxon) has joined #portableapps 23:52:02 hey gluxon 23:52:14 Hey AluisioASG! :) 23:55:58 hey AluisioASG and gluxon 23:56:05 hey ZachThibeau 23:58:42 *** AluisioASG is now known as AluisioASG|Away