00:17:50 *** Sk1llSh0t has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 00:31:03 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@c-68-61-70-223.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 00:31:03 *** stickypixel has quit (Changing host) 00:31:03 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@unaffiliated/stickypixel) has joined #portableapps 01:04:28 *** stickypixel has quit (Quit: Bye, have a great time!) 01:22:13 *** gluxon|gone is now known as gluxon 01:39:21 *** zachthibeau (~zachthibe@142.167.104.194) has joined #portableapps 01:39:21 *** zachthibeau has quit (Changing host) 01:39:21 *** zachthibeau (~zachthibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:39:22 zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 01:39:29 zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 01:39:38 *** zachthibeau is now known as ZachThibeau 02:00:27 *** Htbrdd has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:03:01 *** Htbrdd (~Htbrdd2@24-181-58-207.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 02:25:34 *** gluxon is now known as gluxon|gone 02:25:46 *** gluxon|gone is now known as gluxon|dreaming 02:59:30 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@c-68-61-70-223.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:59:31 *** stickypixel has quit (Changing host) 02:59:31 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@unaffiliated/stickypixel) has joined #portableapps 03:29:09 *** stickypixel has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03:29:41 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@c-68-61-70-223.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:29:42 *** stickypixel has quit (Changing host) 03:29:42 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@unaffiliated/stickypixel) has joined #portableapps 04:01:03 *** stickypixel has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:01:28 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@c-68-61-70-223.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:01:29 *** stickypixel has quit (Changing host) 04:01:29 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@unaffiliated/stickypixel) has joined #portableapps 04:25:06 *** stickypixel has quit (Quit: Bye, have a great time!) 04:41:37 *** gluxon|dreaming has parted #portableapps (None) 04:57:03 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@c-68-61-70-223.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:57:03 *** stickypixel has quit (Changing host) 04:57:04 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@unaffiliated/stickypixel) has joined #portableapps 06:04:06 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 08:40:12 *** stickypixel has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:40:55 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@c-68-61-70-223.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 08:40:56 *** stickypixel has quit (Changing host) 08:40:56 *** stickypixel (~stickypix@unaffiliated/stickypixel) has joined #portableapps 08:44:14 *** stickypixel has quit (Client Quit) 11:29:37 *** Sk1llSh0t (~Sk1llSh0t@74.124.168.218) has joined #portableapps 13:09:30 *** ZAXO7 (~ZAXO7@60.Red-83-54-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #portableapps 13:47:45 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-24-193-154-230.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 16:37:09 *** Sk1llSh0t has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 16:59:05 *** Sk1llSh0t (~Sk1llSh0t@74.124.168.218) has joined #portableapps 17:42:00 *** ronjn has quit (Quit: Rien n'est vrai. Tout est permis.) 17:47:04 *** GordCaswell (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 17:47:05 GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer 17:52:16 *** GordCaswell_ (~GordCaswe@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 17:52:24 *** GordCaswell has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17:52:52 *** GordCaswell_ is now known as GordCaswell 17:54:39 JohnTHaller: I've got a couple more updates coming your way, both of my apps, and others i've noticed need it 17:55:06 *** ronjn (~ronjn@p5B13F096.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 17:56:04 Cool 18:08:57 *** pa_6003 (43df01f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.223.1.248) has joined #portableapps 18:08:57 Hi pa_6003! Welcome to the PortableApps.com IRC channel. Please ask your question and someone should be with you shortly. If you do not receive an answer wait a bit longer or consider posting it on the forums. 18:09:27 Anyone help with creating an app using the generator? 18:11:11 *** pa_6003 has quit (Client Quit) 18:11:56 *** bluegrass501 (43df01f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.223.1.248) has joined #portableapps 18:12:03 anyone there? 18:12:24 Need help with launcher generator 18:13:15 Is there a tutorial?? 18:13:19 Here but about to hop on a client phone call, so can't assist at the moment. Gord perhaps? 18:13:31 The manual: http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/ 18:13:56 tried the manual, keep getting error about the app.ini missing 18:13:56 The 5 links next to Getting Started are helpful 18:14:17 You need a valid appinfo.ini file just like all apps in PortableApps.com Format have. 18:14:47 correct, just don't know how to get one for my Trillian 18:15:13 It can help to start by looking at an existing app. You don't get one, you make one. It's a basic text file. Just grab one from any other app and change it to fit what you're working on. 18:15:48 do you also have to create the app\appini folder structure somewhere? 18:16:10 Most folks start with this: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/PortableApps.com_Application_Template_2.4.zip 18:16:26 It's a zipped template of the basic structure. It's all on the Development page: http://portableapps.com/development 18:17:33 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@142.167.104.194) has joined #portableapps 18:17:33 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 18:17:33 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 18:17:34 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 18:17:41 instructions too? 18:17:52 hola John 18:18:01 ZachThibeau: Handy you're here. SF wants you to upgrade PChat to the new SF system 18:18:11 bluegrass501: The instructions are the ones I linked you 18:18:56 JohnTHaller: I don't host PChat on sf.net anymore, I've been using bitbucket for about a year now, but I did get the notifications for some of the other projects I help out with that are still on sf 18:19:06 thanks, I'll mess with it some more after I grab the template 18:19:13 If you lose any of those links, they're all right in the Development section. PA.c Format, PA.c Launcher, PA.c Template, etc. 18:19:32 ZachThibeau: Ah, ok. It is still on SF, though. So what is there will be upgraded. 18:19:38 bluegrass501: If you need any more help, feel free to come back here. We're freindly folk :) 18:19:47 where do I need to create the /app/appini folder stufff...actually in the program files / Trillian area or on my jump drive? 18:19:48 Except for Zach 18:20:05 yeah I know lol, vba-m got a forced upgrade earlier 18:20:21 JohnTHaller: Are you working on the waveshop update yet? If not, I can get it. 18:20:36 Please do, Gord. I've been busy working on taxes and paying medical bills. 18:21:00 bluegrass501: I would set up a seperate folder on your computer somewhere for it. Doesn't need to be on your jump drive. 18:21:06 KK, will do. 18:22:09 I got to push a new update for PChat soon, been working on converting pixmaps to cairo surfaces for the upgrade to gtk3, PChat 2 is going slower than I liked 18:23:03 ok, thanks 18:23:10 *** bluegrass501 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 18:25:28 John: I was investigating how much work would be needed to compile the platform on lazarus. Might be a bit beyond me though, as the pngimage component apparently doesn't exist on lazarus, and compilation throws errors as a result. 18:25:50 I think they just use image, no? 18:27:34 *** Venusaur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:27:37 Don't know yet. I just got to the point of getting the error, and didn't have a chance to dig any deeper at that moment. 18:31:49 *** andreasma (~andi@pC19F1EE7.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 18:42:59 *** Venusaur (~wdwrf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 19:02:23 *** Sk1llSh0t has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 19:02:39 GordCaswell: you should speak with sar3th about it when he comes around, he and I tried to compile the platform on lazarus at one point, I think he may have some insight and maybe willing to help if not at least offer suggestions 19:03:20 K, thanks Zach. I'm just curious at the moment, not making a serious effort. That may come later :) 19:04:24 at one point someone actually made the effort and coded it in c++ but it didn't really take 19:04:42 done in pure c++ winapi iirc no toolkits 19:05:08 wow...that'd be an intense amount of time. I'm definitely not going there... 19:06:38 Ryan Mccue has it on his old google code account iirc 19:09:13 though a qt implimentation could achieve it nicely and quicker than pure winapi, as much as I'm not a fan of qt it's the best c++ toolkit for skinning support 19:12:02 it is indeed. The downside to switching languages entirely, as opposed to a semi-switch like free pascal, is that it'd be a complete rewrite, rather than only a slight rewrite 19:15:03 all depending, the current platform uses strings in an ini file right? (it's been a while since I last looked at translations for the platform) 19:16:34 Translations, yeah. all the logic though, is pure delphi 19:17:04 wxwidgets I know makes use of gettext 19:21:14 Yes, all translations and settings are in INI files. All logic is Delphi. All theme/images are PNGs or ICOs (for apps). 19:27:40 for now it is better for the pascal approach and then maybe a sub project for a c++ version 19:38:46 *** ZAXO7_ (~ZAXO7@120.Red-83-39-46.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #portableapps 19:39:43 *** ZAXO7 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19:49:06 *** Bry8Star{T2 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20:03:20 *** Bry8Star{T2 (~Bry8Star-@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star-2) has joined #portableapps 20:11:50 So iJohnTHaller: I'm updating PokerTH as well, and noted the splash screen isn't portablized. The problem We may run into in doing so, however, is there is no "PokerTH" listed on it, just a chip. Here's the current splash: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byzk8vcx4EYOY2lDcXpzMkRGbWc/edit?usp=sharing 20:12:13 err...that's odd. Wonder where So i came from... 20:12:44 JohnTHaller: I'm updating PokerTH as well, and noted the splash screen isn't portablized. The problem We may run into in doing so, however, is there is no "PokerTH" listed on it, just a chip. Here's the current splash: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byzk8vcx4EYOY2lDcXpzMkRGbWc/edit?usp=sharing 20:26:51 I think it's ok to leave, then 20:27:50 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@188-183-213-234-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net) has joined #portableapps 20:30:14 *** gluxon (~gluxon@unaffiliated/gluxon) has joined #portableapps 20:38:00 Ok, I'll leave it as it is. 20:42:11 And 6 at once is enough for me for now :) 20:43:01 JohnTHaller: Hey, quick legal question. Let's say I bundle software in a zip with GCC. Does all software in that zip have to be Open Source? 20:43:22 I've always thought "yes", but can't seem to find the line in GPL that states it. 20:44:16 Nope. Only when things are linked. So, for example, if the platform's backup utility were closed source, it could still use 7-Zip because it is calling it via command line (launching an external program, just like the Windows Start Menu does). But if we linked to the DLL from a closed source backup utility, that would be a violation. 20:44:54 Ok. Makes sense. 20:45:07 Gracias :) 20:45:39 The one tricky bit is if you package it in an installer, like an EXE. The FSF used to state that the installer had to be GPL or GPL-compatible in order to contain GPLed binaries (though it could also contain non-GPLed binaries). Later they switched it and said it did not. I'm not sure if there is a definitive answer on that. 20:45:51 It doesn't affect us as PA.c Installer is GPLed with exceptions. 20:46:57 Alrighty then. 20:47:28 JohnTHaller: On a side note, I haven't seen you here for a while. How's life? :) 20:48:19 It's ok. Been busy trying to make some money to pay some medical bills. And prepping a new flash drive for release. As well as updating apps and keeping the site up and finding cheaper bandwidth. How about you? 20:49:36 I'd be exited for that new flash drive. I've been doing good, AP's aren't a joke :( 20:50:00 Except AP Comp Sci, that one is easier than others :) 20:50:25 If you have the right brain for it, CS can be a snap. Guess you do :) 20:50:58 I'm re-reading what you wrote earlier... medical bills? :( 20:51:01 Nothing serious? 20:51:12 New flash drive is a good one. Military grade encryption. But fewer of the negatives of some of them. 20:56:03 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 21:01:53 hey gluxon 21:02:17 Hey ZachThibeau :) 21:02:29 ZachThibeau: pabot says you called for help earlier :P 21:02:40 how's things? and I did no such thing 21:03:24 Good. pabot triggers if you just say the world "help" 21:04:24 I am eating Haagen-Dazs caramel ice cream. Life can not get better.... 21:04:28 ah alright 21:04:47 heh someone forked PChat xD 21:05:26 On GitHub? 21:06:43 bitbucket 21:06:53 I use mercurial for my code repository 21:08:42 it's not the first fork, one kind of floated by but shared their changes back upstream with me which I was happy to see happen 21:09:23 I was reviewing xchat's own svn repository though, some changes involve upgrading the codebase to gtk3 21:10:12 and zed isn't the author of these changes, it's a new maintainer it seems 21:10:56 Who/what is zed? 21:11:07 the original maintainer for xchat 21:11:12 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 21:13:18 Ah. 21:33:56 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 22:05:55 *** Bry8Star{T2_ (~Bry8Star-@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star-2) has joined #portableapps 22:06:13 *** gluxon is now known as gluxon|gone 22:08:12 *** Bry8Star{T2 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23:21:25 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:40:30 *** ronjn has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23:41:13 *** ronjn (~ronjn@p5B13F0DF.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps