IRC Log from 2008-11-02

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00:03:11 <thegreyspot> Hi, quick question. Is there a media center portable app?
00:03:20 <JacobMastel> No there is not
00:03:27 <thegreyspot> thanks!
00:03:29 <JacobMastel> You mean like a Windows Media Player?
00:03:37 <thegreyspot> no like xbmc
00:03:43 <thegreyspot> or elisa
00:03:51 <JacobMastel> I'm not sure what that is.
00:04:04 <JacobMastel> We have coolplayer++ which is a media player
00:04:10 <JacobMastel> or VLC media player
00:04:22 <thegreyspot> can they handle dvd's that are copy right?
00:04:23 <JacobMastel> There is also a beta version of SongBird in the beta testing forums.
00:04:27 <thegreyspot> i guess VLC can
00:04:28 <KevinPorter> Also, if you're a little more adventurous, there is a beta of Songbird: http://portableapps.com/node/15372
00:04:30 <JacobMastel> VLC can
00:04:41 <thegreyspot> Sweet I love songbird!
00:04:45 <thegreyspot> :)
00:04:46 <KevinPorter> Good. :)
00:04:49 <thegreyspot> Thanks
00:04:49 <JacobMastel> .pa SongBird
00:04:55 <pabot> JacobMastel: Songbird Portable 0.7 Development Test 1 - http://portableapps.com/node/15372
00:04:59 <KevinPorter> JacobMastel: I already got him the link. ;)
00:05:02 <JacobMastel> Oh sorry :P
00:05:04 <JacobMastel> Didn't notice
00:06:11 <thegreyspot> Do you guys know when portableapps is going to have the linux os going? like maconastick?
00:06:31 <JacobMastel> It'll come but we don't have a time table yet
00:06:48 <thegreyspot> So it is going to be like VMware?
00:07:09 <DaveDixonII> brb
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00:08:55 <JacobMastel> Is anyone here good at AHK?
00:09:04 <KevinPorter> Nope.
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00:09:22 <MaienM> ehm, somewhat
00:09:29 <MaienM> well, used it a few times.
00:09:33 <JacobMastel> could you take a look at some code MaienM?
00:09:40 <MaienM> sure
00:10:14 <JacobMastel> http://pastebin.com/m30a8f75f
00:10:30 <JacobMastel> I added in line 21 and it died
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00:11:58 <JacobMastel> Any ideas?
00:12:13 <MaienM> hmm, I think I see something....
00:12:16 <MaienM> wait a min
00:12:46 <MaienM> yep, you made a mistake (duh)
00:12:52 <JacobMastel> I did?
00:12:56 <JacobMastel> Where?
00:12:56 <MaienM> http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/commands/WinGet.htm
00:13:09 <MaienM> you skipped the CMD parameter
00:13:28 <MaienM> and thus your WinTitle is seen as CMD parameter, which is invalid
00:13:51 <JacobMastel> Oh okay
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00:13:57 <JacobMastel> which of the CMD's would best fit this?
00:14:01 <JacobMastel> ID?
00:14:10 <MaienM> hmm, I think so....
00:14:15 <JacobMastel> I want the variable to end up with the window title
00:14:18 <JacobMastel> I'll try
00:14:44 <MaienM> you want to get the title of the active window?
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00:14:54 <JacobMastel-Away> Yeah it works
00:15:02 <JacobMastel-Away> Almost
00:15:03 <MaienM> good:)
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00:15:24 <JacobMastel> I think I know the mistake though
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00:15:43 <MaienM> what exacly is the purpose of the Winget here? you need the title of the active window?
00:15:49 <JacobMastel-Away> Yes
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00:16:10 <MaienM> try WinGetActiveTitle, OutputVar
00:16:17 <MaienM> http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/commands/WinGetActiveTitle.htm
00:16:18 <JacobMastel> I want to make it so that it gets the window name and enters that into send code
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00:17:53 <MaienM> correct me if I'm wrong, but why don't you just let is send a /msg chanserv devoice, without any specific nickname? you want it to devoice you, so you do not need to enter a nickname.....
00:18:09 <JacobMastel-Away> No you need to enter a channel though
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00:18:19 <DaveDixonII> Cause we are expected to be here at all times
00:18:24 <MaienM> ah yes, ofcourse
00:18:25 <DaveDixonII> if we are not, we have to show it
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00:18:57 <MaienM> DaveDixonII: thats not what I asked, I know that;)
00:18:58 <JacobMastel-Away> Got it!
00:19:07 <MaienM> good:)
00:19:16 <JacobMastel-Away> Thanks
00:19:23 <MaienM> np;)
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00:19:31 <MaienM> so, what did it?
00:19:34 <DaveDixonII> MaienM: Yea i figured i ment to do /msg #channel but i put /msg #portableapps blah
00:20:32 <DaveDixonII> MaienM: ChanServ doesn't know what channel you are on to preform the command on unless you tell him. :/
00:20:48 <MaienM> yeah, I know.....
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00:23:12 <JacobMastel> K I'm done now :P
00:25:27 <MaienM> spamz!!!!!:P
00:25:32 <KevinPorter> Heh.
00:25:33 <JacobMastel> lol
00:25:34 <JacobMastel> Sorry
00:25:46 <MaienM> np, glad you got it working ^^
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00:28:23 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
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00:28:59 <MaienM> you chased him away Gizmokid2005 :P
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00:32:16 <DaveDixonII> Sorry about that. Had to get dinner.
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00:32:34 <DaveDixonII> and eat it at my computer like i always do. :/
00:37:06 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: Check my twitter. ;)
00:42:33 <KevinPorter> .twitter dbdii407
00:42:34 <pabot> dbdii407: Gonna give Pandora a shot....
00:42:38 <KevinPorter> :D
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00:44:27 <KevinPorter> Brb.
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00:45:07 <DaveDixonII> .twitter dbdii407
00:45:08 <pabot> dbdii407: Can you beleave the first three songs pandora played are songs i actually like?!?! :D
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00:48:06 <pabot> KevinPorter is just an all-around geek. He's usually busy with school, but he does some photography here and there and blogs at http://kevinporter.co.cc
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01:40:52 <pabot> TimClark is happy to pass on the mantle of responsibility to one better able to bear it than himself. Please give Gizmokid2005 the respect he has earned and deserves, or else ... :-p
01:41:03 <JacobMastel> Hi TimClark
01:41:27 <TimClark> jacob there are two words/subjects i never want to see discussed in this channel, even in jokes
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01:41:46 <JacobMastel> Yes Tim
01:42:12 <TimClark> so i don't have to tell you what they were right, and don't use them to show me you know ?
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01:42:18 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
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01:42:32 <JacobMastel> Yes Tim
01:42:40 <TimClark> ty
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01:43:09 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.co.cc. He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.co.cc
01:43:10 <TimClark> now, policacally JTH is an idiot :P
01:43:19 <JacobMastel> LOL
01:43:24 <JacobMastel> Can you say that to the site admin?
01:43:30 <JacobMastel> *about
01:43:55 <TimClark> a report was just released sayint that "O" has gotten much more favorable treatment than "M" :p
01:44:22 <TimClark> so while fox may lean one way, the others lean the other way
01:44:39 <TimClark> I don't see him picking on them :p
01:45:16 <TimClark> Really, politics should not be discussed in here, espically by folks in positions of influence :-(
01:45:16 <JacobMastel> Lets not get into why McCain is better than O'Bama...I mean politics :P
01:45:47 <KevinPorter|afk> :D
01:45:48 <TimClark> JacobMastel: i'm not getting into politics, i getting into why we should not discuss it
01:45:57 <TimClark> we all have our biases and they show
01:47:11 <TimClark> no matter who i support, i will not try to influence anyone in a place where people might give me more credit than i am do
01:50:02 <TimClark> JacobMastel: join me in ot please :-)
01:50:07 <JacobMastel> k
01:51:40 <Bensawsome> lol XD
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01:53:26 <DaveDixonII> Brb everyone, air bed issue...
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01:55:29 <JacobMastel> dbdii-brb: what are you doing?
01:55:32 <TimClark> Since i don't know how long he will be gone i can say this without it being taken personally by dave, devoicing if you are gone for less than 5 minutes is stupid, try to avoid it
01:55:44 <Bensawsome> JacobMastel air bed was punctured :S
01:55:51 <JacobMastel> Bensawsome: PG
01:55:58 <Bensawsome> and supposedly his mom fixed up but i guess something hapened
01:56:00 <Bensawsome> JacobMastel huh?
01:56:22 <JacobMastel> Oh never mind I thought you were making another joke.
01:56:31 <Bensawsome> lol
01:56:35 <Bensawsome> ooooo ya b4 ;)
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01:58:03 <DaveDixonII> Bensawsome: I finally made xChat do multiple commands. :D
01:58:08 <TimClark> Since i don't know how long he will be gone i can say this without it being taken personally by jacob either, devoicing if you are gone for less than 5 minutes is stupid, try to avoid it
01:58:15 <DaveDixonII> Stupid thing is, it doesn't reconize variables. :(
01:58:18 <Bensawsome> DaveDixonII finally ;)
01:58:20 <Bensawsome> :(
01:58:25 <Bensawsome> it does for me :S
01:58:39 <DaveDixonII> -ChanServ- Channel %c is not registered.
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01:58:54 <Bensawsome> DaveDixonII explain which method u used?
01:59:06 <TimClark> :-(
01:59:14 <DaveDixonII> /home/dbdii407/csbrb
01:59:17 <JacobMastel> Sorry TimClark expected to be busy longer
01:59:26 <Bensawsome> o wait you are doing it on linux DaveDixonII?
01:59:33 <DaveDixonII> Yes Ben.
01:59:41 <Bensawsome> i mean it should be the same...
01:59:51 <JacobMastel> EEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Linux :P
01:59:58 <TimClark> good night guys, you all take good care of yourselves, got to eat now
02:00:14 <TimClark> JacobMastel: set a good example please
02:00:15 <JacobMastel> TimClark: isn't it like 10 there?
02:00:16 <DaveDixonII> xUbuntu > Linux
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02:00:25 <DaveDixonII> 10:15 ;)
02:00:42 <Bensawsome> DaveDixonII so did you use the make a text file with commands on different lines and execute it or did you use the user commands dialog box?
02:00:47 <MaienM|Coding> 3.15 am here xD
02:00:55 <Bensawsome> lol
02:01:04 <JacobMastel> Thanks DaveDixonII you actually reminded me I needed to download a copy of ubuntu
02:01:11 <Bensawsome> JacobMastel lol
02:01:17 <JacobMastel> :P
02:01:24 <DaveDixonII> Np.
02:01:58 <Bensawsome> hmmm where is the open source version of xchat for linux???
02:02:00 <Bensawsome> DaveDixonII?
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02:02:14 <DaveDixonII> command /brb = load -e /home/dbdii407/csbrb
02:02:28 <Bensawsome> o ok
02:02:41 <Bensawsome> hmmmm 1 sec lemme find that website i had b4 to check it....
02:02:46 <DaveDixonII> K.
02:03:34 <Bensawsome> firefox just crasehd.....
02:03:53 <Bensawsome> damn windows
02:04:20 <DaveDixonII> Bensawsome: Open Source Version of xChat can be found in Applications -> System -> Add/Remove... -> Type 'xChat'
02:04:21 <MaienM|Coding> yay for ubuntu ^^
02:04:31 <Bensawsome> DaveDixonII o XD
02:04:38 <Bensawsome> its biult in prefect
02:04:58 <Bensawsome> im thinking about trying linux out.....
02:05:06 <MaienM|Coding> or open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install xchat"
02:05:14 <DaveDixonII> Yes that also. :)
02:05:21 <MaienM|Coding> if you like to use the terminal, like I do:P
02:05:23 <Bensawsome> the only prblm is that there isnt enuf disk space for windows and linux... :(
02:05:31 <Bensawsome> MaienM|Coding :D me too :)
02:05:33 <DaveDixonII> I use the terminal alot. :)
02:05:38 <MaienM|Coding> delete windows!!!!
02:05:38 <Bensawsome> terminal ftw!
02:05:53 <Bensawsome> MaienM|Coding i wish i could.... but 1. parents would kill me
02:06:03 <Bensawsome> and 2 i have everything on windows :(
02:06:04 <MaienM|Coding> I guess it reminds me of the pre-gui days..... dos.....
02:06:11 <Bensawsome> MaienM|Coding :)
02:06:21 <DaveDixonII> But 1: Your 18 and 2. Your an Adult. :P
02:07:00 <MaienM|Coding> 1: own pc, not a problem for me
02:07:08 <Bensawsome> but its still techincally my mom's computer even though i monopolize it ;)
02:07:28 <MaienM|Coding> 2: I backed all important stuff up, looked up new software to use and made the swich
02:07:36 <Bensawsome> be back in a few ;)
02:07:37 <DaveDixonII> My mom was like "I payed money for Windows XP on that computer! Dont change it!" guess what im using now? :P
02:07:51 <Bensawsome> MaienM|Coding i dont back up certain parts... i back up EVERYTHING
02:07:57 <Bensawsome> including os stuff :P
02:08:01 <Bensawsome> be back in a few ;)
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02:08:21 <DaveDixonII> Kevvy has finally returned from his potty break. :P
02:08:33 <KevinPorter> :P
02:10:44 <Mir> <(-.-<)
02:10:52 <Mir> (>-.-)>
02:10:54 <Mir> <(-.-<)
02:10:55 <Mir> (>-.-)>
02:11:03 <Mir> cha cha
02:11:09 * Mir lurks off
02:11:23 <DaveDixonII> Unfortunately, our music licences force us to limit the number songs you may skip each hour.
02:11:25 <DaveDixonII> LAME!
02:11:40 <KevinPorter> What? It's FREE DaveDixonII. :P
02:12:03 <DaveDixonII> Unfortunately, our music licences force us to limit the number songs you may skip each hour.
02:12:30 <KevinPorter> You aren't paying a cent for that music Dave. Pandora pays for the music.
02:12:38 <DaveDixonII> If you want to hear something else, try creating another station starting with a different song or artist.
02:13:19 <DaveDixonII> That is the error i have recieved after trying to skip a song...
02:13:24 <KevinPorter> Your point?
02:13:40 <DaveDixonII> I'm stuck on a piano SOG!!!
02:13:42 <DaveDixonII> SONG!
02:14:00 <DaveDixonII> i still cant skip!
02:14:03 <DaveDixonII> :(
02:14:07 <KevinPorter> You should stop skipping songs then. :P
02:14:27 <DaveDixonII> They should stop giving me sucky songs
02:14:30 <DaveDixonII> :P
02:14:59 <KevinPorter> It's not their problem that you're so picky. :P
02:15:05 * KevinPorter will stop now.
02:15:26 <DaveDixonII> Stupid music licences.... :|
02:15:42 <KevinPorter> Lol.
02:15:52 <DaveDixonII> How did JAZZ get into this playlist!!!????
02:17:07 <KevinPorter> Jazz is the best. That's why. :P
02:17:23 <DaveDixonII> Over my dead body. :P
02:18:09 * DaveDixonII goes back to playlist
02:21:34 <upnPAD> hey rmccue is it possible to make python apps that don't need the interpreter to run?
02:21:45 <rmccue> Yep.
02:21:53 <upnPAD> cool
02:21:54 <rmccue> You compile the interpreter into the application itself.
02:22:01 <rmccue> .g python compiler windows
02:22:03 <pabot> rmccue: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.0/
02:22:08 <rmccue> -_-
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02:22:21 <upnPAD> how much bigger does it get?
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02:22:36 <pabot> chrisroby is blah, is blah, developer of blah blah, he likes blah, and blah, but not pink blah, or blah waffles, so blah :p
02:22:37 <pa_8851> Is there an app that lets you sync folders on you computer?
02:22:44 <rmccue> upnPAD: py2exe, that's it.
02:22:46 <upnPAD> WinMerge
02:22:50 <rmccue> pa_8851: Yep, Toucan.
02:22:58 <upnPAD> wah
02:23:00 <rmccue> upnPAD: WinMerge is for comparing, not merging.
02:23:02 <upnPAD> what's winmerge for
02:23:04 <upnPAD> ugh
02:23:08 <upnPAD> well
02:23:12 <upnPAD> it does have merge in it >.>
02:23:16 <rmccue> pa_8851: http://portableapps.com/Toucan
02:23:26 <rmccue> upnPAD: Yeah, but it doesn't work very well.
02:23:31 <upnPAD> oh k
02:24:05 <pa_8851> sweet sounds good thanks rmccue
02:24:12 <rmccue> No worries.
02:24:24 <upnPAD> do you use activepython or the normal one??
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02:26:14 <upnPAD> rmccue
02:26:33 <rmccue> I use the offical Python binaries.
02:26:42 <upnPAD> cool
02:27:38 <upnPAD> python requires 3337kb :P
02:31:07 <JacobMastel-Away> We're starting to get a lot of people in here for support.
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02:31:43 <rmccue> Good.
02:31:44 <rmccue> :)
02:33:59 <upnPAD> oh hallo
02:34:05 <upnPAD> "Learn Python in 10 minutes"
02:34:22 <DaveDixonII> Which doesn't help at all. :P
02:34:30 <Bensawsome> upnPAD WHERE
02:34:42 <upnPAD> http://www.poromenos.org/tutorials/python?
02:36:00 <rmccue> http://diveintopython.org/ is much better.
02:37:12 <DaveDixonII> Both are pile of crap to me. :/
02:37:25 <DaveDixonII> I'm lucky i understood NSIS
02:37:34 <rmccue> Eww, NSIS.
02:38:15 <Bensawsome> lol
02:38:22 <upnPAD> kidding me
02:38:24 <upnPAD> 327 pages
02:38:25 <Bensawsome> rmccue ur evil if u dont like nsis
02:38:36 <Bensawsome> wait what is upnPAD? the learn in 10 minteus ONE?????
02:38:41 <DaveDixonII> PortableApps.com is non-profit, open source community based site, designed to make Open Source Applications, PortableApps. :)
02:38:53 <Bensawsome> lol
02:39:27 <DaveDixonII> - quote from dbdii407. :)
02:39:51 <Bensawsome> :(
02:40:03 <upnPAD> no
02:40:08 <upnPAD> the book rmccue linked to
02:40:11 <upnPAD> seems nice though
02:40:12 <Bensawsome> o ok
02:40:14 <Bensawsome> lol
02:40:46 <JacobMastel> rmccue: How can you see this site and hate NSIS?
02:40:57 <upnPAD> lol wth it says "You know how other books go on and on about programming fundamentals and finally work up to building a
02:40:57 <upnPAD> complete, working program? Let's skip all that."
02:41:09 <upnPAD> pretty sure books tend to give a Hello World example in the first five lines
02:42:10 <rmccue> upnPAD: Not all the ones I've read.
02:42:14 <upnPAD> k
02:42:25 <rmccue> upnPAD: C++ For Dummies had a hello world in the 5th chapter.
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02:43:03 <upnPAD> erm rmccue, it doesnt say how to run a program using the official python :/
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02:43:19 <rmccue> upnPAD: Did you use the installer?
02:43:50 <upnPAD> yeah
02:44:49 <JacobMastel> Good nght
02:44:50 <JacobMastel> *night
02:44:51 <upnPAD> rmccue o.o
02:44:51 <upnPAD> gn
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02:45:19 <rmccue> upnPAD: Just double-click it, Python registers it as an executable.
02:45:35 <upnPAD> double-click it O.o
02:45:35 <rmccue> upnPAD: Alternatively, do "python something.py" if it added it to your path.
02:45:36 <upnPAD> oh
02:45:43 <upnPAD> save it as a file and do it :/
02:48:04 <upnPAD> ugh
02:48:14 <upnPAD> guess ill have to do it from the commandline
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02:49:51 <upnPAD> woo it ran
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02:50:23 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.co.cc. He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.co.cc
02:52:21 <kai_62656> hi Bensawsome
02:54:05 <Bensawsome> hi
02:54:23 <kai_62656> ;)
02:54:47 <upnPAD> can you help me make a simple program rmccue?
02:54:55 <rmccue> Yah
02:55:01 <upnPAD> awesome
02:55:09 <rmccue> print "Hello World"
02:55:11 <rmccue> Done :P
02:55:15 <upnPAD> =_=
02:55:23 <upnPAD> No I actually have something I want it to do :P
02:55:41 <rmccue> print "Bensawsome sucks"
02:55:42 <rmccue> :P
02:56:03 <upnPAD> K, I want it to take a directory in the command line argument, retrieve a list of all files in the directory then write those files out to a .txt file
02:56:08 <upnPAD> Or that
02:59:06 <upnPAD> rmccue?
02:59:18 <rmccue> Ah.
02:59:42 <rmccue> Well, for the directory listing, you'll need the glob() command.
03:00:13 <rmccue> http://diveintopython.org/scripts_and_streams/command_line_arguments.html
03:01:03 <rmccue> Or listdir: http://diveintopython.org/file_handling/os_module.html
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03:04:31 <upnPAD> hey rmccue
03:04:35 <upnPAD> how would i get the first argument
03:05:19 <upnPAD> like i got test.py hello, how can I get the hello
03:05:34 <upnPAD> *like i enter 'text.py hello' in the commandline
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03:13:27 <upnPAD> woot
03:13:33 <upnPAD> now i just need to write it to a file
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03:15:47 <upnPAD> hey rmccue
03:16:08 <upnPAD> http://nopaste.org/p/atbLByXoab
03:16:21 <upnPAD> rmccue, I'm not sure how I should indent the print so that I print out all the files
03:17:10 <rmccue> Instead of printing, write to a file.
03:18:07 <upnPAD> rmccue, yeah I'm going to, but first I'm checking that it's doing what I want
03:18:20 <upnPAD> then I'll look up how to write to a file and replace the print with it
03:18:26 <rmccue> Should work.
03:18:42 <DaveDixonII> Good Night everyone
03:18:51 <upnPAD> rmccue, print os.path.join(dirname, f)
03:18:51 <upnPAD> ^
03:18:51 <upnPAD> IndentationError: unexpected indent
03:18:54 <upnPAD> woops
03:18:59 <upnPAD> the ^ was under the p
03:19:01 <upnPAD> gn dave
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03:19:34 <rmccue> Ah.
03:19:42 <rmccue> The ] goes on the line above it/.
03:20:08 <upnPAD> sorry?
03:20:52 <upnPAD> rmccue, I don't follow :l
03:26:34 <rmccue> http://nopaste.org/p/ae0nYaFe2
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03:27:50 <upnPAD> hm
03:27:51 <upnPAD> print os.path.join(sys.argv[1], f)
03:28:06 <upnPAD> under the t in print, there's a ^
03:28:08 <upnPAD> and it says
03:28:15 <upnPAD> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
03:29:02 <upnPAD> rmccue, :|
03:29:17 <rmccue> Oh, right.
03:29:23 <rmccue> Python 2.6?
03:29:36 <upnPAD> 2.5.2 i htink
03:29:37 <upnPAD> *think
03:29:50 <upnPAD> yeah I downloaded 2.5.2
03:29:57 <rmccue> print changes from a language construct to a function in 3.0, so they've started changing it in 2.x
03:30:09 <upnPAD> oh ok
03:30:11 <rmccue> print(os.path.join(sys.argv[1], f))
03:30:12 <upnPAD> so it's like
03:30:21 <upnPAD> print(os.path.join(sys.argv[1], f))
03:30:25 <upnPAD> yeah k
03:31:27 <upnPAD> ugh rmccue
03:31:28 <upnPAD> print(os.path.join(sys.argv[1], f))
03:31:28 <upnPAD> ^
03:31:28 <upnPAD> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
03:32:50 <rmccue> Wait a second.
03:32:53 <rmccue> I was wrong.
03:33:06 <rmccue> Make it if(...):
03:33:09 <rmccue> Remember the colon.
03:33:16 <rmccue> But leave it as print(...)
03:33:24 <rmccue> Good practice.
03:33:36 <upnPAD> ok
03:33:55 <upnPAD> far out lol
03:33:56 <upnPAD> if os.path.isfile(os.path.join(sys.argv[1], f)):
03:33:56 <upnPAD> ^
03:33:56 <upnPAD> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
03:37:20 <upnPAD> be right back
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03:38:02 <pabot> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
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03:50:39 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is the (BP)Bible guy, and an official PortableApps.com Developer, with BPBible Portable out and GVim, Subcommander etc. in the works
03:51:01 <upnPAD> hey ChrisMorgan do you know python?
03:51:11 <ChrisMorgan> Some
03:51:29 <upnPAD> could you help me
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03:51:37 <rmccue> Hey ChrisMorgan!
03:51:49 <ChrisMorgan> Hey rmccue
03:52:07 <upnPAD> well then
03:52:12 <upnPAD> i have rmccue :P
03:52:19 <Bensawsome> orly? XD
03:52:41 <upnPAD> hey ryan it didn't work
03:52:43 <ChrisMorgan> .def ChrisMorgan
03:52:43 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: ChrisMorgan is the (BP)Bible guy, and an official PortableApps.com Developer, with BPBible Portable out and Inkscape, Numpty Physics, gVim, subcommander etc. in the works
03:52:43 <ChrisMorgan> :D
03:52:51 <upnPAD> if os.path.isfile(os.path.join(sys.argv[1], f)):
03:52:51 <upnPAD> ^
03:52:51 <upnPAD> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
03:52:52 <ChrisMorgan> There, added Inkscape and Numpty Physcis.
03:53:16 <rmccue> You should also add the fact you're an op :P
03:53:19 <ChrisMorgan> Have you imported sys?
03:53:24 <upnPAD> yeah
03:53:25 <ChrisMorgan> oh yeah, I just read that
03:53:28 <upnPAD> http://nopaste.org/p/aVndBrIqs
03:53:43 <ChrisMorgan> .def ChrisMorgan
03:53:43 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: ChrisMorgan is the (BP)Bible guy, and an official PortableApps.com Developer, with BPBible Portable out and Inkscape, Numpty Physics, gVim, subcommander etc. in the works and is an IRC op
03:53:45 <upnPAD> .def rmccue
03:53:46 <pabot> upnPAD: I have no idea who or what rmccue is.
03:53:48 <ChrisMorgan> How's that?
03:54:06 <upnPAD> and has operator privileges on #portableapps?
03:54:11 <ChrisMorgan> Ooo... +vVotriRfA...
03:54:15 <upnPAD> althouh yours is epically long
03:54:19 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: type "/msg ChanServ access #portableapps list
03:54:20 <ChrisMorgan> "
03:54:41 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I should trim it a bit.
03:54:48 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway upnPAD have you imported sys?
03:54:54 <upnPAD> woah lol
03:55:00 <upnPAD> yeah
03:55:12 <ChrisMorgan> Which character is the ^ actually in line with?
03:55:13 <upnPAD> http://nopaste.org/p/aVndBrIqs
03:55:16 <ChrisMorgan> I can't tell :/
03:55:22 <upnPAD> the colon
03:55:28 <ChrisMorgan> ah
03:55:30 <upnPAD> heh, use a monospace font man :P
03:55:48 <ChrisMorgan> [f for f in os.listdir(sys.argv[1]) !?
03:55:54 <ChrisMorgan> You start with [ but don't close it.
03:56:07 <upnPAD> I dunno rmccue said to remove it :/
03:56:14 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, what does the [ mean? I'm not /that/ advanced! :P
03:56:24 <upnPAD> makes the loop work :P
03:56:35 <upnPAD> and i only started half an hour ago lol
03:57:32 <ChrisMorgan> That should just be x for y:
03:57:47 <ChrisMorgan> Or is [f something special?
03:57:55 <ChrisMorgan> for x in y:
03:57:57 <upnPAD> i copied and pasted it from some manual
03:58:07 <ChrisMorgan> :(
03:58:09 <rmccue> I didn't say to remove it.
03:58:11 * ChrisMorgan doesn't know...
03:58:11 <upnPAD> like i copied and cut and pasted everywhere lol
03:58:21 <rmccue> I said to put the ] on the end of the for...in line.
03:58:32 <ChrisMorgan> Maybe it deosn't like the nesting of [s
03:58:47 <upnPAD> then it gives unexpectedt indent for the if, rmccue
03:58:57 <ChrisMorgan> Maybe it doesn't see that you close it at the end, and takes the sys.argv[1*]* as closing it
03:59:33 <rmccue> upnPAD: You need the : on the end of the if line too.
03:59:39 <upnPAD> i do
04:00:09 <ChrisMorgan> Yes, my brother Ben agrees that it should just be for f in xyz: and be done with it, no [ about the whole thing ]
04:00:14 <upnPAD> http://nopaste.org/p/aNaXCJY5ib is how it looks at the moment
04:00:17 <ChrisMorgan> And he's experienced in Python code!
04:00:23 <upnPAD> ooh ok
04:00:35 <ChrisMorgan> no no no no no no no...
04:00:52 <ChrisMorgan> you close it at the end of the whole block, just remove both bits, and stick a : on the end of the for line
04:01:01 <ChrisMorgan> and remove the [f bit
04:01:13 <ChrisMorgan> First line becomes:
04:01:14 <ChrisMorgan> for f in os.listdir(sys.argv[1]) :
04:01:17 <ChrisMorgan> for f in os.listdir(sys.argv[1]):
04:01:22 <upnPAD> ah ok
04:01:25 <ChrisMorgan> (Sorry, no space before the colon at the end)
04:01:31 <ChrisMorgan> and the last line, drop the ] from the end
04:01:34 <ChrisMorgan> Try that.
04:02:02 <upnPAD> last line is a comment :P
04:02:12 <upnPAD> for x in os.listdir(sys.argv[1]):
04:02:12 <upnPAD> IndexError: list index out of range
04:02:17 <upnPAD> oh woops
04:02:25 <upnPAD> WOOT
04:02:28 <upnPAD> it works :D
04:02:32 <ChrisMorgan> wha... oh yeah, so it is :/
04:02:41 <ChrisMorgan> Make sure that you've been given an argument before using argv[1]!
04:02:44 <ChrisMorgan> Good :-)
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04:02:53 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: I thought for...in needed the square brackets.
04:03:11 <upnPAD> tell Ben he's awesome
04:03:18 <rmccue> upnPAD: try: ... except: IndexError, e: print "No directory specified"
04:03:23 <ChrisMorgan> awsome... :/
04:03:27 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome... :/
04:03:28 <upnPAD> lol
04:03:28 <rmccue> :/
04:03:42 <Bensawsome> :P
04:03:59 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: I didn't think so, Ben confirmed me, though he seems to think that it is/can be a valid construct, but 'orrible
04:04:26 <rmccue> Mmm, it makes it a dictionary, I think.
04:04:26 <ChrisMorgan> So, anyone here tried my Inkscape Portable?
04:04:35 <rmccue> Not yet, I'll have to though.
04:05:07 <rmccue> .def todo
04:05:07 <pabot> rmccue: todo is check out Inkscape Portable; finish reading tracker
04:05:14 <ChrisMorgan> :/
04:05:20 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue_todo?
04:05:36 <upnPAD> .def todo
04:05:36 <pabot> upnPAD: todo is check out Inkscape Portable; finish reading tracker
04:05:37 <ChrisMorgan> Interesting though... Numpty Physics and Inkscape both on 4 comments... /me wonders how many downloads each... /me checks...
04:05:55 * upnPAD tells ChrisMorgan /me only works if /me is at the start of the line
04:06:04 <ChrisMorgan> /me realises that :P
04:06:12 <upnPAD> /me thinks ChrisMorgan doesn't
04:06:27 <ChrisMorgan> /me does :D
04:06:34 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway...
04:06:36 <upnPAD> /
04:06:39 <upnPAD> :D
04:06:40 <rmccue> upnPAD only works if he is at the start of each line? :P
04:06:49 <upnPAD> =_=
04:07:05 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: great shot! kapow, straight on target :P
04:07:50 <ChrisMorgan> Impressive... Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 1223.14/100000 MB
04:08:06 * ChrisMorgan has never got that far before, and it's only the 2nd! Yikes! :P
04:08:25 <ChrisMorgan> Before it gets dangerously high, I'll mirror it to nascent-project...
04:08:42 <ChrisMorgan> Hey rmccue, how's that mirroring thing you were going on about some time ago going?
04:09:42 <rmccue> Ergh.
04:09:50 <upnPAD> bwahhaa
04:09:50 <upnPAD> except:
04:09:50 <upnPAD> print "No[n-existent] directory specified."
04:10:06 * rmccue is moving everything to padp
04:10:08 <ChrisMorgan> The really sad thing about that is that that 1223.14MB, even without any other stuff being downloaded, is only ~34 downloads...
04:10:15 <ChrisMorgan> padp?
04:10:23 <upnPAD> upnpadp
04:10:25 <upnPAD> :o
04:10:29 <ChrisMorgan> :o
04:10:40 <ChrisMorgan> Paddy Patience?
04:10:48 <rmccue> http://code.google.com/p/padp
04:11:05 <rmccue> I need to finish uploading all 198MB of that -_-
04:11:19 <ChrisMorgan> :o
04:12:42 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: have /you/ tested Inkscape Portable?
04:12:54 <upnPAD> nope :P
04:12:59 <upnPAD> i spose i will =_=
04:13:02 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: I'd especially like your opinion on how I do my AppData handling
04:13:59 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: Okay, I'll check it out this afternoon.
04:14:18 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks :-)
04:14:45 <ChrisMorgan> It's interesting... I took a leaf out of the book of some WAtomic AppData handling discussion and worked out the rest and it worked :-)
04:15:24 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/13903
04:17:22 <rmccue> Sweet: you get 100MB worth of downloads with a new project on Google Code, I asked for 250MB and they gave me a GB.
04:17:39 <upnPAD> cool
04:17:41 <upnPAD> and woot
04:17:44 <upnPAD> i got it writing to a file
04:17:54 <upnPAD> and i guessed the newline character and got it :D
04:18:01 <upnPAD> should i use \r or \n?
04:18:13 <ChrisMorgan> \n
04:18:16 <ChrisMorgan> Or \4\n
04:18:18 <ChrisMorgan> *\r\n
04:18:22 <ChrisMorgan> :/
04:18:31 <upnPAD> i used both but it left a blank line between the files
04:18:36 <rmccue> Always use \n
04:18:42 <upnPAD> ok
04:18:44 <ChrisMorgan> They seem to have stepped up... I didn't do BPBible 0.3.1 Pre-Release 3 because I was a couple of hundred KB short in the 100MB... it took weeks before they put it up :-(
04:19:01 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: yes! When writing files for Windows, though, use \r\n normally
04:19:17 <upnPAD> Why \n instead or \r?
04:19:26 <ChrisMorgan> Windows
04:19:40 <ChrisMorgan> \r without \n means nothing on Windows in terms of display.
04:20:14 <upnPAD> \n works on all platforms?
04:20:46 <ChrisMorgan> I've just discovered that that 1223.14MB must be inaccurate, as AWStats on portableapps.chrismorgan.info reports 45 downloads of Inkscape Portable on the 1st (total already 1616.4MB) as well as 35 of Numpty Physics Portable, 3 of gVim Portable, and one of each version of Subcommander...
04:21:01 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: Windows = \r\n, *nix = \n, Mac = \r
04:21:08 <upnPAD> oh
04:21:11 <ChrisMorgan> Or is Mac \n\r? I think it's \r
04:21:19 <upnPAD> well \n it is, since what im using it for will only be on nix and windows
04:21:27 <ChrisMorgan> If you're using AutoHotkey then you use `n instead of \n...
04:21:51 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. \n is the standard display choice. \r is only stuck in for dumb text editors like Notepad :P
04:22:01 <upnPAD> heh
04:22:22 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: do you have permissions to put me into the dev role on portableapps.com? I haven't been put in :-(
04:22:23 <upnPAD> Is there a way I can trim the last line (since it's blank, but there because of the \n after each filename)
04:22:34 <ChrisMorgan> Python?
04:22:39 <upnPAD> Yeah
04:23:36 <ChrisMorgan> stringname.[l/r/nothing]strip("\n")
04:25:02 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: Nope, I don't.
04:25:26 <upnPAD> hm
04:27:06 <ChrisMorgan> ok, I'll wait for JohnTHaller... should I leave him an ask here?
04:27:10 <upnPAD> ChrisMorgan, what about straight out trim
04:27:14 <rmccue> Yeah.
04:27:20 <rmccue> I'll ask him if I see him too.
04:27:25 <upnPAD> so I don't have to loop through the file
04:27:49 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: Ben recommends strip as it'll take any from the ends if they're there, or leave them be if they're not.
04:28:13 <ChrisMorgan> If you just want to remove the last character, use stringname[:-1] or something like that
04:28:24 <rmccue> strip() will do both ends, rstrip() does the right-end, lstrip() does the left-end
04:28:27 <upnPAD> So I have to read in the file as a string?
04:28:53 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: why wouldn't you just use stringname.strip? Much more sensible and Python-standard
04:29:05 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: Sorry, I'm lost.
04:29:07 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: That's what I meant.
04:29:07 <ChrisMorgan> .seen JohnTHaller
04:29:08 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: I last saw johnthaller at 2008-11-01 23:03:12 UTC on #portableapps
04:29:12 <rmccue> stringname.strip()
04:29:14 <ChrisMorgan> ok
04:29:19 <ChrisMorgan> yeah, that's what I said
04:29:24 <rmccue> I saw him this morning, disappeared just before I could talk.
04:29:27 <rmccue> Yeah.
04:30:06 <ChrisMorgan> .t UTC
04:30:06 <pabot> 2008-11-02T04:44:50Z
04:30:10 <upnPAD> ChrisMorgan, I'm writing the filenames in a folder to a file. If I still have the file open in python, do I need to close it, then read it in as a string?
04:30:37 * ChrisMorgan gives up - he will admit it: he is hopeless in Python.
04:30:45 <upnPAD> damn :P
04:30:50 <rmccue> Hmm.
04:30:55 <rmccue> I'm not sure.
04:31:08 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: language...
04:31:15 <upnPAD> I think I'll have to close it then open it in a different mode
04:31:18 <upnPAD> oh sorry >.<
04:31:32 <rmccue> There should be a mode to read and write.
04:31:50 <upnPAD> rb is what's in diveintopython
04:32:07 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: what do you think about ops getting +O here?
04:32:24 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: Patrick mentioned that in the forum topic because I told him to :P
04:32:31 <ChrisMorgan> You reckon so?
04:32:36 <rmccue> Yep.
04:32:38 <ChrisMorgan> I do.
04:32:50 <rmccue> You just wanna show off :P
04:32:51 <ChrisMorgan> So that's two of us. Shall we put comments there to that effect?
04:33:00 <rmccue> I will at some point :P
04:33:02 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: shush! I don't want them to know that! :P
04:33:14 <upnPAD> .def palogbot
04:33:14 <pabot> upnPAD: palogbot is the logging bot for #portableapps . Logs are found at http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs . If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/irc/restart
04:33:23 <rmccue> palogbot: uri
04:33:23 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs?t=2008-11-02#T04-33-23
04:34:13 <ChrisMorgan> What I think is, wouldn't it be so much better if Freenode had e.g. halfop, and then you could give developers halfop instead of voice, or something like that, to provide the distinction.
04:34:20 <rmccue> Agreed.
04:34:43 <upnPAD> i thought there was a halfop mode
04:34:52 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: not on freenode
04:34:59 <rmccue> Originally, I was going to have ops op'd (:P), DeMos halfop'd and gurus voiced.
04:34:59 <upnPAD> oh ok
04:35:05 <ChrisMorgan> What could also help is a PortableApps.com masky thingy, so that e.g. I could be ChrisMor@PortableApps.com/developer/operator/user/31426 or something like that
04:35:14 <upnPAD> So rmccue, why would you have the ops op'd?
04:35:15 <rmccue> Yeah, John's working on that.
04:35:23 <rmccue> upnPAD: To distinguish them.
04:35:34 <upnPAD> >.>
04:35:35 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, that's how I'd do it, but sadly Freenode doesn't have halfop :-(
04:35:49 <upnPAD> wait
04:35:51 <upnPAD> why dont you
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04:36:37 <ChrisMorgan> Why don't we...?
04:36:40 <ChrisMorgan> :-(
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04:37:05 <pabot> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
04:37:22 <rmccue> You were saying?
04:37:39 <upnPAD> why dont you have people that can get ops, opped
04:38:14 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: that's what the discussion is about!
04:38:20 <rmccue> Exactly :P
04:38:25 <upnPAD> o.o
04:38:34 <upnPAD> /me goes back to /me's python
04:39:29 <rmccue> You made a snake?
04:39:32 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: I'd almost suggest VO for ops, O for demos and V for gurus, but that'd have the side-effect of giving demos op... though they can't spread it. So I don't think that'll work :P
04:39:40 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: he bought one :P
04:39:50 <upnPAD> low quality
04:39:54 <upnPAD> this guy called ryan made it
04:39:59 <rmccue> And +vo looks the same as +o
04:40:31 <upnPAD> there aren't even any gurus lol
04:40:33 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, it does... you'd need a bot that could give them the additional voice
04:40:52 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: yes there are!
04:40:56 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta :D
04:40:57 <rmccue> Doesn't look different for me, does Mibbit style it differently?
04:41:09 <upnPAD> oh
04:41:11 <ChrisMorgan> Mibbit can do them combined or separate
04:41:12 <upnPAD> i thought he made an app
04:41:37 <ChrisMorgan> The default is separate, I believe, but it may have changed.
04:41:42 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: read http://portableapps.com/node/16493
04:44:05 <upnPAD> i cant see my name in the ops
04:44:42 <ChrisMorgan> Really? :o :P
04:45:19 <upnPAD> so chris
04:45:20 <upnPAD> dirfile[-1].[l/r/nothing]strip("\n")
04:45:22 <upnPAD> im thinking that
04:45:36 <upnPAD> do i need the [l/r/nothing] cause its giving me an error
04:46:07 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, I was meaning that as either l or r or nothing... :/
04:46:21 <ChrisMorgan> l for strip from left, r from right, nothing for both...
04:46:43 <upnPAD> dirfile[-1].strip("\n")
04:46:44 <upnPAD> TypeError: 'file' object is unsubscriptable
04:48:06 <ChrisMorgan> Store it in a variable first
04:48:13 <ChrisMorgan> dirfile.strip("\n")
04:48:19 <ChrisMorgan> don't do the [-1] bit
04:48:23 <ChrisMorgan> ignore the store it bit
04:48:26 <upnPAD> k
04:48:48 <upnPAD> dirfile.strip("\n")
04:48:49 <upnPAD> AttributeError: 'file' object has no attribute 'strip'
04:48:59 <upnPAD> hehe
04:49:11 <ChrisMorgan> Is dirfile a string?
04:49:25 <upnPAD> nope
04:49:27 <upnPAD> it's a file
04:49:27 <ChrisMorgan> Must be string, not char* or whatever it is in Python
04:49:35 * ChrisMorgan takes cover...
04:49:41 <upnPAD> O.o
04:49:53 <upnPAD> um
04:50:02 <upnPAD> how can i do it for a file thne :/
04:50:49 <ChrisMorgan> Get the contents as a string, do that, then write it.
04:51:50 <upnPAD> what I said in the first place =_='
04:55:28 <ChrisMorgan> Then do it! :p
04:57:05 <upnPAD> ChrisMorgan, does strip take away every instance of \n in the file, or only from the left and right sides?
04:57:20 <ChrisMorgan> .def ChrisMorgan
04:57:20 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: ChrisMorgan is an #portableapps op and a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
04:57:24 <ChrisMorgan> The latter
04:57:34 <ChrisMorgan> I trimmed my def a bit more
04:59:11 <upnPAD> ChrisMorgan is an #portableapps op and a PortableApps.com Developer, has made BPBible, and is making Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more portable.
04:59:38 * ChrisMorgan kicks upnPAD across the room
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05:00:02 * upnPAD bounces against the wal and facepalms ChrisMorgan on the way back
05:00:15 <ChrisMorgan> Hey ZachThibeau
05:00:27 <ZachThibeau> howdy guys :P
05:00:49 <upnPAD> hallo
05:01:07 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: have you tested my Inkscape Portable/are you interested in testing it?
05:01:08 <ZachThibeau> everybody reset their clocks yet :P
05:01:23 <ChrisMorgan> ?
05:01:34 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: I briefly tested it and it works but first launch was terribly slow
05:01:35 <upnPAD> ugh
05:01:44 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: Daylight savings
05:01:48 <ChrisMorgan> First launches sometimes can be
05:01:53 <upnPAD> now it adds a blank line between each filename
05:02:03 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: started several weeks ago here in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia...
05:02:12 <ZachThibeau> Ahh ok :P
05:02:16 <upnPAD> same, in NSW
05:02:19 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: I surrender, so long as you leave me alone! :P
05:02:29 <upnPAD> =_=
05:02:30 <ZachThibeau> .def logging
05:02:30 <pabot> ZachThibeau: logging is done by palogbot. palogbot's logs are at http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs/ . Statistics are generated by StatBot and are available at http://ircstats.co.cc/
05:02:32 <upnPAD> just fix it for me!
05:03:01 <upnPAD> http://nopaste.org/p/acSUgCiqw
05:03:37 <ZachThibeau> hmmm not much happened in support other than some dude wanting to know about media players :P
05:03:43 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: groooaaann...
05:03:45 * ZachThibeau loves logs
05:03:49 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: I'm doing to ask the freenode guys if we can have half-op enabled for the channel.
05:04:04 <upnPAD> *going
05:04:56 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: I asked whether they had plans to put it in, they said no
05:05:09 <rmccue> Were you the one that just asked? :P
05:05:41 <ChrisMorgan> yeah
05:05:50 <ChrisMorgan> :D
05:06:41 <ZachThibeau> rmccue: nice XD 02:55:41 <rmccue> print "Bensawsome sucks"
05:07:01 <ChrisMorgan> :/
05:07:01 <rmccue> Better than "Hello world"
05:07:05 <ZachThibeau> lol
05:07:20 <upnPAD> can you help me with a bug im getting
05:07:23 <Bensawsome> o stfu rmccue
05:07:26 <Bensawsome> :P
05:07:32 <upnPAD> :O LANGUAGE
05:07:49 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: I request that you retract http://portableapps.com/node/16490#comment-102379 - it's better than WinPenguins :P
05:08:08 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: No Can Do :P
05:08:16 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: I found both equal :)
05:08:23 <ChrisMorgan> :o
05:08:50 <upnPAD> is winpenguins the one how all the penguins are jumping over your screen
05:09:00 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: but that may change if you keep it updated :P
05:09:01 <ChrisMorgan> WinPenguins, while fun, is just dumb penguins falling off and going bang! Whereas Numpty Physics...
05:09:14 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: depends on the NP developers
05:09:28 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: I meant the launcher :P
05:09:45 <ZachThibeau> Patrick has been slack with winPenguins :(
05:10:14 <ZachThibeau> rmccue: you talked an aweful lot of python :P
05:10:23 <ZachThibeau> rmccue: I take it you like python :P
05:10:24 * rmccue <3 snakes
05:10:29 <ZachThibeau> lol
05:10:56 <upnPAD> http://nopaste.org/p/acSUgCiqw
05:11:21 <ChrisMorgan> 0.1 came out April 2, 0.2 20 days later... and nothing newer :-(
05:12:04 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: launcher? You saw my admission of the farce :P
05:12:08 <ChrisMorgan> anyway...
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05:19:08 <Bensawsome> WOW i just realized i have over 20000 songs O_O
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05:28:23 <ZachThibeau> night folks
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05:42:14 <upnPAD> YES
05:42:17 <upnPAD> I DID IT
05:42:19 <upnPAD> horrah rmccue!
05:42:23 <upnPAD> *hoorah!
05:54:37 <upnPAD> ugh rmccue can you help me :/
05:54:45 <upnPAD> I'm tyring to install py2exe
05:55:26 <upnPAD> but 'python setup.py install' in the commandline gives "'python' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
05:55:41 <rmccue> Oh, right.
05:55:49 <rmccue> Make sure Python is in your path.
05:59:02 <upnPAD> rmccue, so I put the setup.py in C:\Python25?
05:59:26 <rmccue> No.
05:59:35 <rmccue> Put C:\Python25\bin in your PATH
06:04:28 <upnPAD> ooh found it
06:05:04 <upnPAD> rmccue, there is no bin folder :/
06:05:18 <rmccue> Well, C:\Python25 then.
06:05:22 <upnPAD> yup
06:07:44 <upnPAD> running py2exe
06:07:44 <upnPAD> running build_py
06:07:44 <upnPAD> running build_ext
06:07:44 <upnPAD> error: Python was built with Visual Studio 2003;
06:07:44 <upnPAD> extensions must be built with a compiler than can generate compatible binaries.
06:07:45 <upnPAD> Visual Studio 2003 was not found on this system. If you have Cygwin installed,
06:07:47 <upnPAD> you can try compiling with MingW32, by passing "-c mingw32" to setup.py.
06:09:17 <upnPAD> ugh
06:09:32 <upnPAD> don't you hate it when installers call themselves setup.exe
06:24:26 <upnPAD> ugh
06:24:43 <upnPAD> rmccue, you can try compiling with MingW32, by passing "-c mingw32" to setup.py.
06:24:51 <upnPAD> you can try compiling with MingW32, by passing "-c mingw32" to setup.py.
06:24:53 <upnPAD> woops
06:25:01 <upnPAD> error: option -c not recognized
06:30:47 <upnPAD> o gawd
06:32:33 <upnPAD> rmccue, would you mind py2exe'ing a program for me :)
06:32:48 <upnPAD> cause I keep getting errors when trying to use py2exe
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06:52:34 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: I recommend that you look at BPBible's make_py2exe.py file if you need help
06:52:58 <ChrisMorgan> http://code.google.com/p/bpbible/source/browse/trunk/make_py2exe.py
06:52:59 <upnPAD> oh ok
06:53:39 <ChrisMorgan> Note that it sticks the required argument on itself
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07:01:59 <upnPAD> holy ChrisMorgan o.o
07:02:17 <upnPAD> that's a bit... beyond me :/
07:03:30 <ChrisMorgan> ok, you probably won't need the bit after the if(setup(, so remove the if( about the setup call and leave it at that; the rest is just to copy the graphics into the distribution.
07:04:28 <ChrisMorgan> Also note that the compressed, bundle_files and zipfile=None bits are commented out, but for a portable edition, they're in, as they help it get smaller, with fewer files.
07:05:03 <upnPAD> ah k
07:06:37 <upnPAD> ChrisMorgan, do I just remove "icon_resources":[(1, "graphics/bpbible.ico")],
07:06:47 <upnPAD> to keep the default executable icon
07:09:39 <ChrisMorgan> The default executable icon will be the python one, I imagine
07:09:40 <upnPAD> ChrisMorgan, how's this look http://paste.pocoo.org/show/89851/
07:12:36 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, you might as well get rid of the os.system lines and the #,'mainfrm.xrc','search.xrc'), comment... and if you want it small, enable the compression bundling and zipfile lines
07:31:14 <ChrisMorgan> :/ just after having fed Poedit through App Compactor, I deleted unins000.*, and Explorer reported in its status bar, instead of six hundred and something KB, -423936 bytes! :/
07:32:47 <ChrisMorgan> (meaning, the ~600KB was what was there before I deleted the files...)
07:32:50 <upnPAD> O.O
07:32:58 <ChrisMorgan> Very much!
07:33:00 <upnPAD> ugh
07:33:12 <upnPAD> i keep getting ImportError: No module named py2exe_util
07:33:38 <ChrisMorgan> Have you got a modern version of Python?
07:33:44 <upnPAD> installed today
07:34:12 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... I don't know what it is then. Which file does the traceback report it's from?
07:34:35 <upnPAD> line 930, in find_dependend_dlls
07:35:12 <ChrisMorgan> Filename?
07:36:01 <upnPAD> File "F:\Documents\Personal\Python\py2exe-0.6.8\py2exe-0.6.8\py2exe\build_exe.
07:36:01 <upnPAD> py", line 930, in find_dependend_dlls
07:36:01 <upnPAD> import py2exe_util
07:36:01 <upnPAD> ImportError: No module named py2exe_util
07:38:02 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... I've got py2exe 0.6.5...
07:40:14 <ChrisMorgan> My copy is in Python25\Lib\site-packages\py2exe-0.6.5... maybe yours should be in the same structure as the copy of python you're using?
07:55:08 <excid3> oh sweet
07:55:10 <excid3> python talk :D
07:55:18 <ChrisMorgan> :/
07:55:27 <excid3> python is my favorite language :P
07:55:34 <ChrisMorgan> English is mine :P
07:55:40 <excid3> oh you got me
07:55:46 <excid3> english, then python :P
07:56:00 <excid3> having issues i see
07:56:16 <upnPAD> sure do
07:56:21 <upnPAD> ill try what chris said i guess
07:56:30 <excid3> py2exe with a non gui app? i tried py2exe with pygtk and it was a huge failure
07:56:35 <upnPAD> ChrisMorgan, I have 0.6.8
07:56:44 <upnPAD> it is a non-gui app
07:56:49 <upnPAD> just a small one i wrote
07:56:55 <ChrisMorgan> I know; try moving it to Python25\Lib\site-packages
07:58:22 <excid3> if it wasnt 2AM, i would help
07:58:34 <excid3> but im going to bed, might be able to help tomorra
07:58:39 <ChrisMorgan> It isn't, so you can :P
07:58:44 <ChrisMorgan> .t AEDT
07:58:44 <pabot> Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:13:29 AEDT
07:58:46 <excid3> it is here
07:58:48 <excid3> :P
07:58:53 <upnPAD> same problem, chris :/
07:59:06 <ChrisMorgan> No it isn't... quarter of an hour later :P
07:59:35 <ChrisMorgan> yoopy: once again, I give up :-(
08:00:08 <upnPAD> wja
08:00:13 <ChrisMorgan> So, upnPAD, you're in #python, have they been able to help you?
08:00:14 <upnPAD> *what
08:00:23 <upnPAD> haven't asked
08:00:32 <ChrisMorgan> Why don't you?
08:00:43 <upnPAD> cause you've been helping
08:00:56 <ChrisMorgan> :/
08:00:56 <ChrisMorgan> I have?
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08:33:48 <pa_9589> hi
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08:36:44 <ChrisMorgan> ... bye ...
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09:18:12 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM, and thats that. He is fairly good at PHP, and is learning C++ atm. Oh, and he'll help you if its needed, too.
09:28:20 <ChrisMorgan> Hey MaienM
09:40:39 <MaienM> hello ChrisMorgan
09:40:55 <ChrisMorgan> How is things?
09:42:20 <MaienM> fine, fine
09:42:22 <MaienM> with you?
09:43:46 <ChrisMorgan> oh, going well... now, I've got a legit chance to tell you about Inkscape Portable and Numpty Physics Portable :P
09:44:06 <MaienM> well then, tell me;)
09:45:00 <MaienM> inkscape is graphics, right? and what is numpty about?
09:46:02 <ChrisMorgan> Read all about them... IS http://portableapps.com/node/16491 and NP http://portableapps.com/node/16490
09:47:03 <ChrisMorgan> ... and surprisingly, Numpty has actually had more downloads - 52 in the ~30 hours, with Inkscape only having had 50...
09:47:39 <MaienM> aaah. vector graphics.....
09:48:29 <MaienM> sounds like fun apps..... lemme see if I can find a linux version:P
09:48:56 <ChrisMorgan> Of the portable apps? no. Of the base apps? both.
09:49:19 <MaienM> ya, base apps it is then;)
09:49:29 <MaienM> well, for testing on this pc anyway....
09:49:53 <MaienM> if I like them, the PA version will still go on my USB, if I can find the space for it..... xD
09:50:01 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
09:50:11 <ChrisMorgan> Shouldn't have trouble with NP - under 2MB
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09:55:50 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
09:55:59 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Steve
09:56:41 <SteveLamerton> Hello ChrisMorgan
09:57:43 <SteveLamerton> So anyone fancy ansering my question here: http://portableapps.com/node/16493
09:58:00 * ChrisMorgan looks at it
09:59:10 <ChrisMorgan> No question there... but yeah, Zach is a developer, he should be a demo
09:59:30 <SteveLamerton> I meant my first post
09:59:50 <ChrisMorgan> oh that.
09:59:52 <SteveLamerton> I dont quite get the distinction
10:00:58 <ChrisMorgan> But who are the demos with op privs?
10:02:22 <SteveLamerton> Me, Tim and Marko I think (plus patrick and ryan, but they are full ops anyway), it was the moderators on the site
10:02:49 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know
10:03:39 <SteveLamerton> Surely it would be simpler if we were budged up ibto the op group, after all we all seem to use the op rights a bit *shrugs*
10:03:57 <ChrisMorgan> I think so.
10:04:29 <SteveLamerton> That way the groups would be Operators, Developers and Gurus
10:04:40 <ChrisMorgan> I think so.
10:05:29 <MaienM> but then, who would be gurus? most developers have ops...... right?
10:05:37 <SteveLamerton> So who do I ask, or should I just post it back on that topic?
10:05:50 <SteveLamerton> MaienM: I think the developers just have voice
10:06:08 <ChrisMorgan> Yes. No op privs
10:06:21 <ChrisMorgan> Though ops (such as, now, Giz and me) can get op etc.
10:07:08 <SteveLamerton> But so can I which is the confusing bit, I shall put up a post on that thrad
10:07:13 <SteveLamerton> *thread
10:11:25 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon that you shold propose that mods get moved to ops, and leave demos as just devs
10:11:39 <ChrisMorgan> btw, SteveLamerton, are you interested in my Inkscape Portable http://portableapps.com/node/16491 ?
10:13:56 <SteveLamerton> ChrisMorgan: Yes, I shall try it out when my new portable hdd arrives :)
10:14:04 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
10:14:36 <SteveLamerton> Tomorrow hopefully :D
10:14:42 <ChrisMorgan> How about ... a GAME! Numpty Physics Portable - http://portableapps.com/node/16490 ;-)
10:17:17 <SteveLamerton> Yes, I have it on my Internet Tablet ;)
10:17:48 <SteveLamerton> So does this make sense http://portableapps.com/node/16493#comment-102408
10:17:56 <ChrisMorgan> g2g2bed
10:18:00 <ChrisMorgan> sorry, read it later
10:18:06 <SteveLamerton> OK :)
10:18:21 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: You about?
10:18:36 <ChrisMorgan> this evening :P
10:18:54 <SteveLamerton> Pah ;)
10:19:03 <ChrisMorgan> looks good
10:19:03 <SteveLamerton> I was talking GMT
10:19:05 <upnPAD> hey ChrisMorgan
10:19:12 <upnPAD> could you py2exe the app for me?
10:20:00 <ChrisMorgan> sorry, no
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10:20:05 <upnPAD> lol
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11:14:02 <SteveLamerton> Hello Cassandra^
11:14:46 <Cassandra^> hello
11:15:54 <SteveLamerton> Cassandra^: Just visiting or have you go any questions?
11:16:38 <SteveLamerton> *ot
11:16:40 <SteveLamerton> *got
11:17:30 <Cassandra^> just want to be present, don't have any questions at the moment, thank you for asking :)
11:19:38 <SteveLamerton> Cassandra^: Awesome :)
11:19:54 <Cassandra^> lol
11:52:58 <SteveLamerton> Right I am off now guys, be back in an hour or so
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13:51:46 <DaveDixonII> DoEs AnYoNe EvEr TaLk On ThIs ChAnNeL?
13:53:24 <mib_frj941> no
13:53:28 <DaveDixonII> I wIlL lEaVe ThAt Up To YoU pEoPlE....
13:54:02 <DaveDixonII> StatBot: Get your owner's booty over here. I'm bored. :P
14:00:24 <Gizmokid2005> nope
14:00:28 <Gizmokid2005> wait...wtf
14:00:48 <Gizmokid2005> I should've been away...
14:02:32 <DaveDixonII> Its 9:17 not 10:17
14:02:33 <DaveDixonII> :/
14:02:53 <Gizmokid2005> I knwo, I'm fighting with my phone to change it's time because it should update automatically
14:03:16 <DaveDixonII> My moms computer and mine updated alreay
14:03:20 <DaveDixonII> So did the TV. XD
14:03:32 <Gizmokid2005> lol
14:03:36 <Gizmokid2005> I just got my phone working
14:03:45 <Gizmokid2005> alarm clock has to be updated but I don't use that anyways...
14:03:57 <DaveDixonII> Lol.
14:04:08 <DaveDixonII> Brb. I have 5 Clocks to reset
14:04:29 <Gizmokid2005> lol have fun
14:04:35 <DaveDixonII> Thanks. :P
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14:08:37 <pabot> recipro knows ancient Chinese secret: One who does not visit http://portableapps.com/support first, has indeed not read the freaking manual
14:08:38 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
14:10:03 <Gizmokid2005> YAY for netsplits...lol
14:12:02 <mib_frj941> b
14:12:02 <mib_frj941> b
14:16:45 <mib_frj941> b
14:16:46 <mib_frj941> b
14:16:49 <Gizmokid2005> mib_frj941?
14:17:00 <DaveDixonII> NetSplits are awesome. :D
14:17:06 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII I KNOW!! LOL
14:17:27 <DaveDixonII> ;)
14:18:31 <DaveDixonII> Imagion if Services NetSplit'ed (They can. :))
14:19:15 <Gizmokid2005> lol
14:22:31 <DaveDixonII> I can just see this channel in unbelievable Horrar
14:23:23 <DaveDixonII> If they split that is
14:23:23 <DaveDixonII> ;)
14:23:30 <Gizmokid2005> lol
14:23:31 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
14:24:04 * DaveDixonII would say "Well we are screwed. Neither Patrick or Gizmo can op themselfs. :|"
14:25:48 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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14:33:00 <thegreyspot> Do you guys use Iron portable?
14:35:12 <thegreyspot> im guessing not then
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14:37:16 <Gizmokid2005> thegreyspot, I've never even heard of Iron Portable
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14:41:58 <mib_frj941> b
14:41:58 <mib_frj941> b
14:44:43 <Gizmokid2005> mib_frj941, yes??
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14:44:45 <pabot> gluxon is here
14:44:50 <Gizmokid2005> hello gluxon
14:50:36 <gluxon> Hello All :P
14:52:33 <mib_frj941> b
14:52:34 <mib_frj941> b
14:52:42 <Gizmokid2005> mib_frj941.......
14:52:44 <Gizmokid2005> seriously
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15:16:22 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
15:16:36 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
15:16:46 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
15:16:53 <SteveLamerton> Heya Gizmokid2005
15:17:23 <SteveLamerton> Much happening?
15:18:28 <Gizmokid2005> nope
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15:19:17 <pabot> Oni-Neoxes has been making youtube videos about anything, but mostly about games. Check the videos out here: http://www.youtube.com/16425749 (I'm also taking request, just ask)
15:19:30 <SteveLamerton> Hello Oni-Neoxes
15:20:02 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello SteveLamerton
15:20:17 <Gizmokid2005> hello Oni-Neoxes
15:20:25 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Gizmokid2005
15:20:48 <Oni-Neoxes> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-firefox-file-transfer-is-complete.jpg
15:20:50 <Oni-Neoxes> =P
15:23:49 <Gizmokid2005> Oni-Neoxes, OLD ONE lol
15:42:15 <Mir> hmm?
15:42:57 <Oni-Neoxes> ?
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15:45:28 <Mir> oni :D
15:45:33 <Mir> :(
15:45:41 <Mir> i lag
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15:48:20 <pabot> powerjuce is happy that: THE PHILLIES WON!!!!!!!! YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:48:27 <Mir> :D
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16:14:06 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com Moderator and Developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
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16:15:23 <Gizmokid2005> hello PatrickPatience!
16:19:23 <PatrickPatience> Hi!
16:19:33 *** ZachT|away is now known as ZachThibeau
16:20:00 <Gizmokid2005> hello ZachThibeau
16:20:14 <ZachThibeau> howdy y'all
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16:24:47 <Mir> :D
16:24:52 <ZachThibeau> howdy kaeos
16:25:07 <ZachThibeau> Mir: good to see you :P
16:25:14 <Mir> hmm
16:25:29 <Mir> i dont remember having a video camera attached to my computer
16:25:32 <Mir> >__>
16:25:37 <Mir> ;>__>
16:26:01 <ZachThibeau> ... you know what I meant
16:26:08 <PatrickPatience> ZachThibeau: You're a developer, for sure. However, I left you in the 'guru' group as I wanted to give you that responsibility. A developer is a developers... there's no frills. You aren't really a guru, but I'd like you to try to act in that role, if you know what I mean...
16:26:35 <ZachThibeau> PatrickPatience: ahh I see :P
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16:31:59 <pabot> StatBot is a bot which logs what we say for statistics purposes. Opt out by private messaging Bensawsome or if he is not on then private message StatBot. The Stats pages are at http://ircstats.co.cc/
16:32:32 *** Gizmokid2005|BRB is now known as Gizmokid2005
16:32:45 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh* must fix that script
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16:34:06 <Gizmokid2005> YAY for easy scripting :D
16:34:13 <ZachThibeau> lol
16:34:22 <Gizmokid2005> I love VisualIRC's ease of making aliases
16:35:53 * PatrickPatience downloads Visual IRC... what's all the FUSS? :P
16:36:00 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience wait
16:36:01 <Gizmokid2005> don't
16:36:01 <Gizmokid2005> no
16:36:02 <Gizmokid2005> stop
16:36:04 <Gizmokid2005> seriously
16:36:05 <Gizmokid2005> stop
16:36:14 <Gizmokid2005> I've got a .7z that has it already
16:36:15 <Gizmokid2005> no install
16:36:17 <Gizmokid2005> just need to extract
16:36:24 <Gizmokid2005> I'm working on making it portable today :D
16:36:31 <PatrickPatience> Nice.
16:36:40 <Gizmokid2005> it should be uber easy
16:36:50 <PatrickPatience> I just have this fetish for GTK+ and Tango apps.
16:37:00 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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16:38:14 <ZachThibeau> PatrickPatience: you get my message from pabot about Bluefish?
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16:39:40 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: http://www.gizmokid2005.com/files/VisualIRC.7z <-- just extract
16:39:42 <Gizmokid2005> and run
16:39:43 <Gizmokid2005> :D
16:45:29 <PatrickPatience> ZachThibeau: Yes... however, the last Bluefish for Windows binary update was back in May, just for language files. :( Have you compiled it at all?
16:45:48 <ZachThibeau> PatrickPatience: not yet but will soon
16:46:16 <PatrickPatience> Cool. Good luck, it's a great program.
16:46:22 <PatrickPatience> Gizmokid2005: That's portable?
16:49:04 <PatrickPatience> Nice, Miro's using OpenCandy now.
16:49:08 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience, Yup. So far it is
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16:49:13 <Gizmokid2005> all the settings are stored in the .ini file
16:49:14 <PatrickPatience> Gizmokid2005: Howso?
16:49:15 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.co.cc. He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.co.cc
16:49:19 <PatrickPatience> Oh, okay.
16:49:22 <Gizmokid2005> I'm working on making it portable
16:49:26 <Gizmokid2005> actually truly portable
16:49:41 <Gizmokid2005> I've got no clue where to start :(
16:50:28 <PatrickPatience> Eww... too ugly for me.
16:50:33 <PatrickPatience> Ever tried X-Chat?
16:50:43 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience, yeah...I don't like X-Chat
16:50:45 <Gizmokid2005> I think that's ugly
16:50:47 <Gizmokid2005> and its bloated
16:50:50 <Gizmokid2005> and buggy
16:51:28 <Gizmokid2005> VIRC only uses 12MB of RAM after running for more than 24 hours
16:51:39 <Gizmokid2005> bye
16:51:44 <Gizmokid2005> woops...wrong window lol
16:51:56 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience, even steve is hooked on VIRC
16:52:21 <Gizmokid2005> the only reg entries that I see it actually adding are in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Classes\
16:52:22 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 virutariC%
16:52:32 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome....what?
16:52:44 <Mir> Xchat for windows is buggy
16:52:48 <Bensawsome> keyboar7d bad
16:52:52 <Mir> portable or non portable
16:52:53 <Gizmokid2005> Mir, yes, very much so
16:52:53 <PatrickPatience> You think Visual IRC is nicer than X-Chat?
16:52:54 <Bensawsome> brbb
16:52:57 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience, yes
16:52:58 <PatrickPatience> Mir: Agreed.
16:52:59 <Gizmokid2005> much
16:53:05 <PatrickPatience> Weirdo.
16:53:08 <Gizmokid2005> scripting is a lot easier, it supports all KINDS of languages
16:53:11 <Gizmokid2005> it's small
16:53:14 <Gizmokid2005> VERY small
16:53:14 <Mir> Irrsi is better
16:53:26 <Gizmokid2005> and the usability...very simple :D
16:54:21 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 virtualirc eh?
16:54:27 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome, yup :D
16:54:31 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.gizmokid2005.com/files/VisualIRC.7z
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16:54:38 <pabot> kai_62656 is here. He is developing LMarbles and Lincity-NG Portable and LOVES WAFFLES
16:54:40 <Bensawsome> where the regular download >_>
16:54:43 <Gizmokid2005> hello kai_62656
16:54:50 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome, www.visualirc.net
16:54:56 <kai_62656> hi Gizmmokid2005
16:55:02 <Bensawsome> and does it support multiple servers?
16:55:02 <Gizmokid2005> kai_62656, lol, hi
16:55:07 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome, yup :D
16:55:19 <Gizmokid2005> Multiple server connections - chat on 10 networks without having to open 10 copies of the program; the window tab bar automatically groups windows by server
16:55:35 <Gizmokid2005> ActiveX scripting - aside from ViRC's native language, you can also write script routines in VBScript, JavaScript, Perl, Python, or any other ActiveX scripting language
16:55:37 <Mir> 10 servers?
16:55:41 <Gizmokid2005> yup
16:55:43 <Mir> that will not do
16:55:45 <Gizmokid2005> lol
16:55:52 * Mir needs 100 8D
16:56:04 <Gizmokid2005> I'm never on more than 2, MAYBE 3
16:56:36 <Mir> i am on 5 at most
16:56:38 <Gizmokid2005> :P
16:56:45 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
16:56:59 <PatrickPatience> Hey guys check this out: http://patrickpatience.com/software/opencandy-cool-shiznizzle/
16:57:01 <Mir> EFnet, freenode, socery, max-evo, ashland
16:57:02 <Gizmokid2005> vIRC is actually really really nice. it's a little awkward at first, but it is easy
16:58:46 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 does it have its own SIMPLE scripting system? cause im no know any proggramming languages :(
16:59:47 <LOGAN> Virtual Volumes View: 195 downloads
16:59:57 <Bensawsome> lol
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17:00:34 <pabot> kai_626561 is when kai_62656 fails... :P
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17:03:13 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome, you can setup aliases with normal IRC commands
17:03:17 <Gizmokid2005> all kinds of fun things
17:03:27 <Gizmokid2005> plus you can use a scripting editor that comes with the package, Rumble
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17:07:21 <LOGAN> i wanna learn python
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17:07:40 <LOGAN> especially because it is used for scripting in blender
17:07:47 <Gizmokid2005> hello Zach_Hudock
17:07:53 <Zach_Hudock> hello Gizmokid2005
17:07:55 <kai_62656> hi Zach_Hudock
17:08:00 <Zach_Hudock> hi kai_62656
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17:12:43 <pabot> TimClark is happy to pass on the mantle of responsibility to one better able to bear it than himself. Please give Gizmokid2005 the respect he has earned and deserves, or else ... :-p
17:13:07 <TimClark> i don't get it, We have OPs and we have voices, what's the big deal as to weither they are mods, devs, gurus, or whatever :O
17:13:23 <TimClark> seems very silly to me
17:13:30 <gluxon> oh, Hello TimClark :D
17:13:40 <MaienM> especialy since the ranks are very unclear atm....
17:14:07 <Gizmokid2005> I'm still in the dark on how all of this discussion is coming about...
17:14:17 <TimClark> but, who cares about ranks, we have ops and voices, that's all that matters
17:14:18 <gluxon> The mind of John can never be tamed.
17:14:40 <TimClark> gluxon: it has nothing to do with john
17:17:10 <LOGAN> im working on some 3D model of a building... lo-res :)
17:17:35 <LOGAN> +O +H +V
17:17:37 <LOGAN> :P
17:19:25 <gluxon> Why doesn't it? He's owner of the channel, so his rules, right?
17:19:41 <kai_62656> whos channel?
17:19:43 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon, techinically it's not John's channel
17:19:59 <Gizmokid2005> Founder : rmccue, PatrickPatience
17:20:08 <LOGAN> technically, you guys overcomplicate matters...
17:20:13 <LOGAN> lol
17:20:14 <Gizmokid2005> lol
17:20:17 <TimClark> gluxon: john wants a little to do with the channel as possible
17:20:22 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not into complication...I just elaborate
17:21:02 <LOGAN> Give channel operators a +O the moderators a +H and the devs and gurus a +V
17:21:11 <LOGAN> and let it grow dinamically
17:21:31 <kai_62656> no +H here
17:21:36 <kai_62656> or is there?
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17:22:28 <Gizmokid2005> LOGAN, but freenode has no half-op
17:22:41 <Gizmokid2005> that's the problem
17:22:56 <MaienM> mhm, that complicates everything quite a bit.....
17:23:10 <Gizmokid2005> yup
17:23:40 <TimClark> i disagree, we have ops, and voices, lets just do our jobs as best we can :P
17:24:43 <TimClark> voices can lead when needed, ops can control when needed, it's not , or should not be, such a biggie IMO
17:25:07 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark, I agree with that too
17:25:41 <TimClark> We have Gizmokid2005 as op, which i fought for, we have a couple of spares
17:25:59 <PatrickPatience> It was all Ryan's idea, I swear.
17:26:17 <LOGAN> freenode has no halfop???
17:26:24 <PatrickPatience> Indeed.
17:26:29 <LOGAN> weird
17:26:30 <TimClark> we have voices, devs who suppoedly know what there doing, and gurus who are generally helpful anyway
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17:27:23 <PatrickPatience> I'm out, BBL.
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17:28:04 <LOGAN> I am a channel operator scince 5 years and my channel has like 6 to 8 ops and a varying number of voices (helpers)
17:28:11 <TimClark> already i've seen the sillyness among the voices as to "how to be voice" and "rights" the voices should have, it's all silly
17:28:23 <LOGAN> indeed
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17:28:40 <LOGAN> but that should not mean you have to hide the ops and voices
17:28:51 <TimClark> and putting your op status in you def is just vain :P
17:29:15 <DaveDixonII> Soungs like rubbing it in. ;)
17:29:30 <LOGAN> its not an excact sience though
17:29:38 <LOGAN> nothing to do with rubbing in
17:30:09 <LOGAN> new visitors will know the people to ask mainly because ops and voices are on top of the user list
17:30:17 <TimClark> the only thing that makes sense to me as far as "how to ve voice" is that you should devoice if you will be /away or unavailbe for an EXTENED period of time
17:30:34 <LOGAN> not really
17:30:49 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark, putting it in your def, is pretty vain
17:30:49 <TimClark> LOGAN: you do not ask anyone in partiular, you just ask
17:30:53 <LOGAN> that only gives more attention to people voicing/devoicing
17:31:25 <LOGAN> TimClark: correct, but the ops/voices are on top and easy to spot anyway
17:31:37 <LOGAN> they have the strongest channel affiliation
17:31:53 <TimClark> LOGAN: i meant that on the extreme, Don't devoice because you went to get coffee and revoice 3 minutes later :-(
17:32:07 <DaveDixonII> Please dont tell me that this is yet another pointless fighting discussion?
17:32:41 <LOGAN> TimClark: if you're online just keep voice, as the now im leaving "the channel is yours" is much weirder
17:32:45 <TimClark> no DaveDixonII , i was just asking about the sillyness that is in the fourm post
17:33:11 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: Are you discussion the stupid voice thing? *sigh*
17:33:50 <LOGAN> if there are 5 devs in the room, just let them keep being voices even if some are idle
17:34:02 <TimClark> LOGAN: weird, if you say so, i only say that to the senior in the room to let them know that i'm gone and hope they will be around to watch things
17:34:11 <DaveDixonII> Really LOGAN? I only see three
17:34:12 <DaveDixonII> :/
17:34:17 <LOGAN> that is better than one leaves and an unvoiced member suddenly gets voice
17:34:35 <DaveDixonII> Yea thats stupid right there
17:34:39 <LOGAN> that will spark the questions... how did he get voice, can i get voice etc.
17:34:54 <TimClark> you guys really pay to much attention to that stuff, THAT is the problem
17:34:58 <DaveDixonII> Thats just like saying that we need a voiced person on here at all times
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17:35:15 <LOGAN> TimClark: nah just an observation of being here regulary
17:35:30 <TimClark> DaveDixonII: that is correct , we do, and i will continue it if needs be, or do you want me to give someone op instead
17:35:35 <LOGAN> remember I gone through these questions before on my own channel for years
17:36:13 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: If they are not on the chansrev flag list. Dont give the user anything.
17:36:23 <LOGAN> lemme check current status on my channel
17:36:32 <TimClark> sorry DaveDixonII , i will do what i feel is right
17:37:07 <LOGAN> 5 ops, 3 halfops and a voice atm
17:37:07 <DaveDixonII> Last i checked, Ryan turned SECURE on. Meaning No one who is on flags with +o access CANT EVER get +o
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17:37:10 <pabot> markomlm_away is the alias of markomlm if he is away
17:37:21 <LOGAN> and only 2 users atm lol
17:37:32 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: If you where to op me right now. You couldn't anyway you try it
17:38:07 <DaveDixonII> ChanServ would not let it
17:38:41 <TimClark> hello markomlm_away how are you today
17:38:49 <DaveDixonII> mode +o DaveDixonII by KevinPorter
17:38:50 <DaveDixonII> mode -o DaveDixonII by ChanServ
17:38:55 <DaveDixonII> It just wouldnt let ya
17:39:22 <TimClark> DaveDixonII: are you talking to anyone other than yourself right now
17:39:27 <DaveDixonII> Aka. Ryan doesnt want anyone voice or op'ed who shouldn't have it. period
17:39:33 <DaveDixonII> Im talking to you.
17:39:50 <markomlm_away> hello @all. Hey TimClark:Good enough for this misty cold day ;-)
17:40:58 <TimClark> well, to tell the truth, i'm not really listining, i would not op anyone in the first place, and i will voice as the situation calls for it, that is part of the place of an op, to make decsions based on need
17:41:21 <DaveDixonII> But ryan doesn't want it.
17:41:29 <TimClark> markomlm_away: cold here to
17:42:09 <DaveDixonII> You only do that TimClark If There ISNT anyone that is voiced on the channel. +v is only for Offical Dev's and Moderators
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17:42:49 <TimClark> that is correct DaveDixonII , i only do it if there ISNT anyone voiced in the channel, so what is your problem
17:42:59 <DaveDixonII> Exceptions: Gizmokid2005 and KevinPorter :/
17:43:12 <gluxon> bye guys, I have to go :(
17:43:19 <TimClark> bye gluxon
17:43:31 <DaveDixonII> You have voiced others when there are +v's on the channel before.
17:43:50 <TimClark> dave, you are boring me with this
17:43:52 <Gizmokid2005> bye gluxon
17:44:02 <DaveDixonII> See ya gluxon
17:44:09 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: Thats my job. :P
17:45:45 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: just read you post, you really think we should be opped on entry
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17:46:26 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark, for ops, yes I do.
17:46:45 <DaveDixonII> I'm not gonna say anything. TimClark will just blow me off anyways...
17:46:48 <DaveDixonII> Brb.
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17:46:53 <TimClark> interesting, how many opps are there now
17:47:23 <Gizmokid2005> 11 total
17:47:53 <TimClark> lets see if he comes back and revoices in less than 5 minutes, you sould not devoice for a BRB really, it's just silly
17:48:50 <TimClark> 11 !!! that means if we all opped when we came in dbdii-brb would be pushed down to 12 place, hmmm, might be a good idea :p
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17:49:44 <TimClark> i need to get coffee, brb
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17:50:48 <pa_4528> CVXBNCN
17:51:07 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: care to do the honors
17:51:22 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4528 what can we help you with?
17:51:36 <pa_4528> DVF
17:51:55 <pa_4528> PIYINKEYIME ?
17:52:12 <pa_4528> ???????
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17:52:21 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4528, please state your business or be kicked
17:52:30 <maya> hi, I can't get the wallpaper thing to work and I have used a bmp pic and named it portableapps_wallpaper, but I couldn't change my wallpaper before cause the IT-people locked it, how can I get it to work???
17:52:45 <pa_4528> ?????!
17:52:47 <Gizmokid2005> maya, if your IT people have locked it down, it's not possible to have it work
17:52:50 <pa_4528> ????
17:53:08 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 HOW U KNOW HE DIDNT SPEEAK ENGLISH?????
17:53:18 <maya> do you know if I can unlock it somehow?
17:53:19 *** dbdii-brb is now known as DaveDixonII
17:53:25 <DaveDixonII> You guys are so stupid!
17:53:28 <DaveDixonII> maya: Hello
17:53:29 <TimClark> Bensawsome: don't yell and don't sas the op
17:53:47 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: Umm someone don't use translator. :(
17:53:51 <TimClark> DaveDixonII: don't call your peers stupid
17:54:03 <Gizmokid2005> when it comes through as nothing but garbage, it's useless
17:54:09 <DaveDixonII> I will ignore that. There is someone here that needs help
17:54:15 <DaveDixonII> maya: I'm sorry.
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17:54:20 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
17:54:28 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
17:54:44 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
17:54:49 <TimClark> well DaveDixonII give the support
17:55:37 <TimClark> you obviously feel you have an idea, share it with us
17:55:52 <Bensawsome> maya there probably isnt a way to unlock it and even if you did you could get seriously in trouble
17:56:22 <maya> then i can do nothing
17:56:25 <DaveDixonII> Eh. Ben beat me to it. Parents are yelling at kids.
17:56:50 <maya> is it 100 % sure this app. leaves none info. on my comp?
17:57:31 <Bensawsome> maya PortableApps.com apps do not leave anything on any computer. It stores all the data on your usb drive
17:57:51 <maya> okey, thanks :)
17:58:01 <Bensawsome> :)
17:58:04 <Bensawsome> no problem
17:58:58 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh*, must setup more aliases....op, voice, deop, devoice aren't setup as aliases...just as right-click commands in the userlist
18:00:38 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII, you need to refrain from that type of conversation.
18:01:57 <DaveDixonII> I'm sorry gizmo. *puppy eyes* :(
18:02:25 <Gizmokid2005> well, you know better. You are older, and I'd hope more mature, than that.
18:02:28 <SteveLamerton> Not to other mods, I am deleting the duplicate topic just posted.
18:02:32 <SteveLamerton> *Note
18:03:06 <Bensawsome> not to other mods? then who it to SteveLamerton ;)
18:03:15 <SteveLamerton> Too late, someone else deleted the other one
18:03:18 <Bensawsome> :P
18:04:13 <SteveLamerton> TimClark: Did you delete the duplicate topic?
18:04:30 <TimClark> nope
18:04:52 <SteveLamerton> markomlm, did you delete the duplicate topic?
18:05:42 <SteveLamerton> It is that I almost deleted the other one at the same time, completely removing all traces of what the user posted, perhaps putting a quick note in IRC at the same time is a good idea
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18:06:16 <TimClark> SteveLamerton: always delete the second one
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18:06:47 <SteveLamerton> TimClark: Do all the mods follow that one?
18:06:58 <SteveLamerton> And by second do you mean oldest?
18:08:24 <TimClark> NO, the newest, the one that was posted second, seems like common sense to me, it's the dup
18:09:33 <SteveLamerton> OK, it is just that if you go to post something, hit post and then the browser stop button to add something else and then hit post again the newer will be the correct one, I guess it is just best to read them.
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18:12:52 <DaveDixonII> Oh Snap! My dad found the hole in the wall
18:12:58 <DaveDixonII> I'm screwed
18:13:53 <Bensawsome> DaveDixonII pwned
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18:13:58 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com Moderator and Developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
18:13:58 <DaveDixonII> Lol. Brb
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18:14:04 <Bensawsome> hey PatrickPatience
18:14:07 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps
18:14:08 <pabot> KevinPorter is just an all-around geek. He's usually busy with school, but he does some photography here and there and blogs at http://kevinporter.co.cc
18:14:13 <Gizmokid2005> hello KevinPorter, PatrickPatience
18:14:23 <KevinPorter> Hello. :)
18:14:30 <TimClark> hello PatrickPatience , how are you, and you KevinPorter
18:14:41 <MaienM|Coding> hello KevinPorter, PatrickPatience
18:14:45 <KevinPorter> Hi TimClark and Gizmokid2005. I'm doing just fine. :)
18:14:53 <PatrickPatience> I is good!
18:14:56 <KevinPorter> How are you TimClark?
18:14:59 <PatrickPatience> Hi there MaienM.
18:15:16 <TimClark> KevinPorter: oh, getting annoyed with a user really
18:15:34 <KevinPorter> Oh. Whom might this user be?
18:15:47 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark, PM him ;)
18:15:51 <TimClark> oh, l'll let you guess
18:15:52 <Gizmokid2005> (him being KP)
18:15:59 <PatrickPatience> PROTECTION ID1
18:16:07 <PatrickPatience> Times 3!
18:16:17 <KevinPorter> TimClark: I'll talk to you in PM.
18:16:20 <SteveLamerton> I am cleaning that up right now
18:17:31 <PatrickPatience> Ay yai yai: http://portableapps.com/node/16510
18:20:15 <PatrickPatience> Heh, David's signature: "Computer: xUbuntu 8.10 RC1"
18:20:25 <PatrickPatience> I have a dell
18:20:41 <Gizmokid2005> and I have a windows!!
18:20:41 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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18:20:46 <KevinPorter> LOL.
18:20:48 <PatrickPatience> Lmao.
18:20:50 <PatrickPatience> Hey David.
18:20:53 <DaveDixonII> I honestly HATE this airbed!
18:21:19 <SteveLamerton> Hmm, I might just delete his request for a launcher, all the talk can happen in the spp request thread
18:21:20 <PatrickPatience> DaveDixonII: Where did you purchase your xUbuntu?
18:21:26 <PatrickPatience> In a retail outlet, or online?
18:21:35 <Gizmokid2005> LOL PatrickPatience
18:21:49 <KevinPorter> Lmao.
18:21:53 <DaveDixonII> I payed $0.00 for the computer, hardware, and software. :P
18:22:00 <PatrickPatience> Teehee. DaveDixonII: still won't take my word in believing it's Xubuntu, eh? :P
18:22:01 <Gizmokid2005> *paid
18:22:13 <PatrickPatience> Gizmokid2005: Gosh, you're such a stickler.
18:22:17 <Gizmokid2005> Yup, I am
18:22:21 <Gizmokid2005> I'm worse than even Kevin
18:22:36 <KevinPorter> Takes a lot to be worse than me. :P
18:23:10 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter, I can mange :)
18:23:39 <PatrickPatience> Did Ryan ever end up talking to freenode about halfop?
18:24:04 <DaveDixonII> I dont think they have plans on supporting it
18:24:09 <Bensawsome> wow hop????? nice XD
18:24:21 <DaveDixonII> HalfOp was made for when IRC didnt have serivces.
18:24:25 <Bensawsome> i mean you would think freenode would have that :S
18:24:28 <DaveDixonII> services*
18:27:08 <DaveDixonII> Hyperion doesnt come with +h does it? :S
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18:27:45 <DaveDixonII> hello wes.
18:27:54 <wescooldude3> hey dave
18:28:02 <wescooldude3> leme check on something real quick
18:28:04 <Gizmokid2005> hello wescooldude3
18:28:48 <TimClark> wescooldude3: hello
18:29:06 <wescooldude3> hey Gizmokid2005 and TimClark
18:29:17 <SteveLamerton> Hello wescooldude3
18:29:18 <wescooldude3> sry i was checking to see if i get payed this monday
18:29:25 <wescooldude3> howdy SteveLamerton
18:29:52 <Gizmokid2005> AHH!!! s/payed/paid
18:29:53 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh*
18:30:07 <Gizmokid2005> that one is the worst for me
18:30:12 <wescooldude3> huhm home made jet engine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNnSqmem3fs&NR=1 << *sweet*
18:30:23 <wescooldude3> lol gizmo
18:30:50 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid2005: I've learned to deal with it. :-/
18:30:57 <KevinPorter> Sometimes.
18:31:05 <wescooldude3> rofl
18:31:35 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter, me too...but sometimes it just gets under my skin...bad lol
18:31:42 <KevinPorter> Lol.
18:31:56 <PatrickPatience> Who gets payed on a Monday?
18:32:08 <Gizmokid2005> I used to get paid on monday
18:32:13 <Gizmokid2005> and once on a wednesday
18:32:18 <PatrickPatience> s/paid/payed
18:32:24 <Gizmokid2005> now I get paid every other friday...
18:32:27 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience, thanks :)
18:32:31 <PatrickPatience> Ditto.
18:32:38 <wescooldude3> we get payed on friday but i dont work friday
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18:32:51 <Gizmokid2005> Wes|IT!!!!!!
18:32:57 <Gizmokid2005> seriously...come on, please? lol for me
18:32:58 <Wes|IT> lol
18:33:06 <Wes|IT> XD
18:33:16 <Wes|IT> brb i got to take care of some pay,emts
18:33:17 <DaveDixonII> ;)
18:33:21 <Wes|IT> paytments*
18:33:27 <Wes|IT> ugh ....
18:33:36 <KevinPorter> *payments :)
18:33:39 <DaveDixonII> Brb. Doing Threw me candy. :D
18:33:45 <Mir> i payed off my depts already
18:33:49 <Mir> all 2k of them
18:33:52 <Gizmokid2005> Mir >.>
18:33:54 <Mir> <__<;
18:34:24 <Mir> *debts
18:34:27 <Wes|IT> 2000?
18:34:33 <Mir> yup
18:34:39 <Wes|IT> $2000
18:34:46 <Mir> T___T
18:34:51 <Wes|IT> u use usa money
18:35:22 <Wes|IT> well i guess you would u live in usa O.O
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18:36:39 <SteveLamerton> Hello JacobMastel
18:36:43 <JacobMastel> Hi SteveLamerton
18:36:48 <JacobMastel> How's it going?
18:36:57 <TimClark> JacobMastel: :)
18:37:05 <Mir> i live in So Cali
18:37:09 <Mir> D:
18:37:17 <Mir> that was just my rent
18:37:21 <Gizmokid2005> hello JacobMastel
18:37:26 <Gizmokid2005> Mir, ouch
18:37:33 <KevinPorter> Hi JacobMastel.
18:37:37 <Mir> doesnt include my creditcard, joose, food and internetz
18:37:38 <Gizmokid2005> my rent is....$393 plus water...and I own my mobile home :D
18:37:40 <JacobMastel> Hi Gizmokid2005 and KevinPorter and all
18:37:46 <DaveDixonII> Mir: thats one big Ouch!
18:37:57 <Mir> DONT MOVE TO CALIFORNIA
18:38:04 <Mir> D:
18:38:06 <DaveDixonII> Heck, i wont
18:38:13 * JacobMastel like Oregon
18:38:16 <JacobMastel> *likes
18:38:20 <Mir> but do come and visit us
18:38:29 <DaveDixonII> Mir: I'll visit ya. :P
18:38:30 <Gizmokid2005> cali can kiss my arse
18:38:33 <Mir> give us your tourest money
18:38:39 <Gizmokid2005> *tourist
18:38:40 <Gizmokid2005> :D
18:38:42 <Mir> we have disneylan
18:38:46 <Mir> you must come
18:38:52 <DaveDixonII> No wonder why its $1000
18:38:53 <JacobMastel> Mir: all he old people in California figure out California is crappy and then they move to my state.
18:38:55 <DaveDixonII> $2000*
18:38:56 <Mir> Disney demands it
18:39:01 * JacobMastel sings the Oregon anthem
18:39:12 * DaveDixonII finds a cork
18:39:29 * Mir hands his vodka cork to DDII
18:39:32 * JacobMastel doesn't actually know the Oregon anthem. Even wonders if there is wone.
18:39:49 <TimClark> well since things a definate -ot right now, i'll type at you later :
18:39:55 <JacobMastel> Bye TimClark
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18:39:55 * DaveDixonII puts the cork in his sisters mouth. Be quiet err.
18:40:05 <Mir> aww
18:40:06 <JacobMastel> TimClarkIsAway: You stole my line :P
18:40:20 <SteveLamerton> Bye TimClarkIsAway
18:40:54 <JacobMastel> Poll: what word processor do you guys use?
18:41:11 <JacobMastel> OOo, MS word, AbiWord, star?
18:41:28 <Gizmokid2005> MSWord usually...but only because I have it installed everywhere I'd need it
18:41:39 <Mir> Kwrite
18:41:47 <Mir> :)
18:41:54 <JacobMastel> Mir: Linux?
18:42:00 <Mir> uh huh
18:42:11 <JacobMastel> which flavor?
18:42:12 <SteveLamerton> MS Word or OOo Writer
18:42:16 * KevinPorter uses MS Word. Sometimes OOo Writer.
18:42:18 <Mir> Suse
18:42:33 <Mir> i avoid OOo
18:42:49 <Mir> it takes too long to load and looks Compiz like
18:42:58 * Mir despises Compiz
18:43:12 <JacobMastel> Personally I use OOo for most everything but uses MS word occasionally. I would probably use OOo exclusevly if they added support for .docx
18:43:31 <JacobMastel> And they need a ribbon bar like office '07
18:43:36 <MaienM|Coding> JacobMastel: OOo 3 has it;)
18:43:45 <JacobMastel> MaienM|Coding: no it doesn't
18:43:46 <KevinPorter> That's what I was going to say.
18:43:48 <MaienM|Coding> its in beta;)
18:43:51 <JacobMastel> Oh it is?
18:43:52 <MaienM|Coding> yes it has, I used it;)
18:43:54 <KevinPorter> JacobMastel: It does. OOo 3.
18:43:59 <JacobMastel> the .docx support or the ribbon?
18:44:03 <MaienM|Coding> but it a bit buggy
18:44:03 <KevinPorter> Not in beta anymore.
18:44:08 <MaienM|Coding> the .docx
18:44:17 <JacobMastel> Where can I download it?
18:44:24 <MaienM|Coding> dunno, google?
18:44:31 <KevinPorter> Pretty sure it comes standard with OOo 3, right?
18:44:36 <JacobMastel> Well what's the name of it.
18:44:37 <MaienM|Coding> yep
18:44:44 <JacobMastel> I have OOo 3 and it can't save .docx
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18:45:07 <MaienM|Coding> the beta I d/led some time ago had it.....
18:45:24 <MaienM|Coding> not sure about saving, but why would you want to do that anyway?
18:45:26 <KevinPorter> Maybe it can only open docx...
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18:45:38 <KevinPorter> MaienM|Coding: Good point. :D
18:45:47 <KevinPorter> Afternoon ZachThibeau. :)
18:46:03 <JacobMastel> MaienM|Coding: because I work with people that use .docx and I'll edit a file and send it back or to the next format and they get grumpy when I change the formats on them.
18:46:05 <SteveLamerton> Hey ZachThibeau
18:46:14 <JacobMastel> *next persn
18:46:15 <ZachThibeau> KevinPorter: Afternoon Kind gentleman :P
18:46:17 <JacobMastel> **person
18:46:47 <JacobMastel> Hi ZachThibeau
18:46:50 <KevinPorter> I just save all my stuff in rich text format so it works with everything.
18:46:52 <ZachThibeau> howdy JacobMastel
18:46:59 <GeoffShearsmith> Good evening all, hadn't realised I had logged in automatically.
18:47:07 <JacobMastel> KevinPorter: like I said they don't like it when I change the format :(
18:47:08 * Gizmokid2005 hates .rtf with a passion
18:47:11 <MaienM|Coding> why would they even notice you changin it to a .doc... works fine with everything that supports .docx
18:47:26 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid2005: What's wrong with it?
18:47:27 <MaienM|Coding> but well, at least it can open them...
18:47:29 <JacobMastel> MaienM|Coding: because they think .docx is way supperior
18:47:32 <Wes|IT> ugh bbt actomatically logs yous off, then it tells you "You are now logged off" O.o
18:47:35 <JacobMastel> Why I don't know.
18:47:36 <MaienM|Coding> FOOLS!!!
18:47:59 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter, it's BLOATED. I've gotten rtf docs that are 9MB in size...that are just a few hundred k in a .doc format
18:48:12 <KevinPorter> That's true.
18:48:24 <Gizmokid2005> not that size is an issue with all my HDD space...but it makes sending them to people a pain
18:48:26 <KevinPorter> But I'll sacrifice the file size for compatibility.
18:48:26 <MaienM|Coding> sorry about that, but I personally don't like .docx.... way too less support for it, so you HAVE to use microsoft crap.
18:48:28 <ZachThibeau> The only difference between doc and docx is just different way of handling the xml tags really nothing really new
18:48:48 <MaienM|Coding> anyway, back to coding
18:48:52 <GeoffShearsmith> Would LOGAN perhaps be LOGAN-Portable?
18:48:55 <KevinPorter> Honestly, I think the best format out there is ODF.
18:49:19 <ZachThibeau> w00t corrupt a wish on my site went to page 3 :D
18:49:24 <KevinPorter> And MS Office 2007 SP2 will have support for ODF built-in. :D
18:49:32 <Mir> i think .txt is the best
18:49:43 <ZachThibeau> Mir: amen
18:49:46 <ZachThibeau> :P
18:49:49 <Mir> also i have a corp liscense for Office Pro 2003
18:49:58 <Mir> :)
18:50:15 <Mir> it also includes Visio and Visual
18:50:19 <Mir> >:D
18:50:52 <KevinPorter> http://is.gd/5BKH
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18:50:59 <Wes|IT> MaienM|Coding: mine me asking what language
18:51:04 <Wes|IT> mind*
18:51:12 <MaienM|Coding> C++
18:51:20 <Wes|IT> kk
18:51:25 <MaienM|Coding> atm I'm playing with QT4 a bit....
18:55:00 * PatrickPatience remembers he needs to work on is.gd Pidgin plugin.
18:55:11 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience is.gd?
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18:55:29 <Gizmokid2005> I'll brb, need to switch to the mac
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18:55:55 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
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18:56:34 <PatrickPatience> I love the way in which Google decides to add people to your contacts.
18:57:05 <KevinPorter> Lol. Quite obnoxious, eh?
18:57:08 <PatrickPatience> Sent email to user@domain.com just once. Shall we put it in his suggested contacts? Nahh... we'll just add it to his contact book.
18:57:28 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: yeah...that's slightly irritating lol
18:57:31 <KevinPorter> Oh, of course.
18:57:33 <Gizmokid2005> that's why I don't use the web interface
18:57:36 <Gizmokid2005> I just use T-bird :D
18:57:49 <PatrickPatience> So do I.
18:57:57 <ZachThibeau> T-Bird FTW and T-Bird Portable Edition FTW
18:57:59 <PatrickPatience> But I can't get this GContactSync uploading the changes.
18:58:29 <Gizmokid2005> I don't try to sync my address books between the two
18:58:35 <Gizmokid2005> I just use TBP everywhere
18:58:59 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Me too, and with IMAP no less so corruption doesnt really matter
18:59:12 <Gizmokid2005> haha, I don't ever use IMAP, it's all POP3
18:59:16 <PatrickPatience> Sometime's is so much easier to use the web interface, so I like to have them synced.
18:59:49 <PatrickPatience> Instead of plugging in flash at school. Renaming executables. Starting Thunderbird. Hoping it doesn't crash on out crummy computers.
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19:00:01 <Gizmokid2005> ahh
19:00:02 <PatrickPatience> The Comm. Tech. computers are jacked though. :)
19:00:02 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
19:00:03 <Wes|IT> lol
19:00:05 <Gizmokid2005> I don't have that issue though
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19:02:22 <pabot> Wes|IT is Wesley aka windows[] || Wes irc Operator || Php Master || Suse n00b || UnrealIRCD Portable Dev || Portableapp's Support ||
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19:04:59 <Wes|IT> bbl watching some kids
19:04:59 <Gizmokid2005> hello rab040ma
19:05:03 <rab040ma> hi
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19:05:15 <Gizmokid2005> is there something we can help with?
19:05:35 <rab040ma> not this time
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19:05:41 <Gizmokid2005> alright, enjoy your stay :)
19:05:56 <JacobMastel> Gizmokid2005 = the official portableapps flight attendant :P
19:06:02 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: :P thanks
19:06:07 <rab040ma> unless you know anything about John's thoughts on portablizing Java apps
19:06:16 <JacobMastel> Not going to happen in the near future
19:06:24 <JacobMastel> More legal red tape
19:06:33 <rab040ma> got a link?
19:06:37 <SteveLamerton> I beleieve his thoughts are wait until the fully open source version is out
19:06:56 <JacobMastel> No I don't. Just search the forums. It's been discused once or twice a while ago.
19:07:04 <JacobMastel> .pa Java apps
19:07:08 <pabot> JacobMastel: Portable Java Apps - http://portableapps.com/node/137
19:07:38 <JacobMastel> That's not it
19:08:08 <JacobMastel> .pa no java apps
19:08:11 <rab040ma> I haven't seen anything lately.
19:08:12 <pabot> JacobMastel: Java For Portable Firefox - http://portableapps.com/node/439
19:08:20 <JacobMastel> rab040ma: it was quite a while ago.
19:08:21 <KevinPorter> Lol. Just give up JacobMastel. :P
19:08:26 <JacobMastel> 2 or 3 months.
19:08:34 <JacobMastel> Yes KevinPorter
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19:08:45 <pabot> markomlm_away is the alias of markomlm if he is away
19:08:56 <JacobMastel> hi markomlm_away
19:09:19 <SteveLamerton> Hello markomlm_away
19:09:45 <JacobMastel> Wait isn't OOo a java app?
19:10:13 <rab040ma> JacobMastel: yes, but it is mostly compiled to native executables, so it doesn't need a JRE to run most stuff.
19:10:22 <JacobMastel> Oh
19:10:23 <JacobMastel> Thanks
19:10:48 <rab040ma> John has a script that loads a JRE on the portable drive so OOo can use it if it needs to.
19:11:57 <rab040ma> My question, I suppose, comes down to "why are my requests to have my Freemind moved to pre-release being ignored."
19:13:01 <markomlm_away> hello @all
19:13:14 <JacobMastel> "The wheels of John grind slowly but they grind exceedingly small"
19:13:25 <SteveLamerton> rab040ma, simply because there is not a good way of doing Portable Java until it is fully open sourced
19:13:46 *** TimClarkIsAway is now known as TimClark
19:14:06 <rab040ma> my Freemind uses the same portablized java as OOo, and works quite well.
19:14:06 <SteveLamerton> Hello again TimClark
19:14:11 <TimClark> rab040ma: could you link to the latest post about freeming please
19:14:37 <JacobMastel> .pa freemind pre-release
19:14:42 <pabot> JacobMastel: OpenOffice.org Portable 2.2 Pre-Release (Testers Needed) - http://portableapps.com/node/6347
19:14:44 <KevinPorter> You around Gizmokid2005?
19:14:54 <JacobMastel> It's just not working for me :P
19:15:03 <rab040ma> http://portableapps.com/node/11772#comment-94351
19:15:34 <TimClark> JacobMastel: could you stop that please or try it in pm till you get the right answer :(
19:15:40 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter: yup
19:15:42 <TimClark> ty rab040ma
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19:16:09 <pabot> kai_62656 is here. He is developing LMarbles and Lincity-NG Portable and LOVES WAFFLES
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19:20:07 *** DaveDixonII is now known as dbdii-brb
19:20:29 <TimClark> start the clock mark 1:35
19:20:29 <PatrickPatience> rab040ma! Hi!
19:20:33 <rab040ma> hi
19:21:30 <rab040ma> PatrickPatience: How've ya been?
19:21:36 <PatrickPatience> KevinPorter: Pshh: http://portableapps.com/node/16493#comment-102443 - Your typing failures are not out issues.
19:21:44 <PatrickPatience> rab040ma: Fantastic. What've you been up to?
19:21:55 <JacobMastel> TimClark: what are you timing how long Dave's gone?
19:22:07 <TimClark> PatrickPatience: got a minute
19:22:10 <KevinPorter> PatrickPatience: Whatever. :P
19:22:12 <Bensawsome> PatrickPatience lol
19:22:17 <PatrickPatience> Yes, yes I do.
19:22:28 <PatrickPatience> Whoa, PatrickPatience, PatrickPatience, PatrickPatience.
19:22:37 <rab040ma> PatrickPatience: popular guy.
19:22:43 <PatrickPatience> I'll say.
19:24:16 <JacobMastel> TimClark: did I get the quote right?
19:24:17 <JacobMastel> http://portableapps.com/node/16510#comment-102444
19:25:01 *** TimClark is now known as TimClarkIsInPM
19:29:25 <SteveLamerton> Now those two have gone it is all quiet ;)
19:29:36 <Bensawsome> hey guys you think this comment is ok? http://portableapps.com/node/16510#comment-102447
19:29:46 <Bensawsome> o lol JacobMastel nice we commented on same thing XD
19:30:12 <JacobMastel> LOL
19:30:16 <SteveLamerton> Bensawsome: Looks fine to me
19:30:24 <JacobMastel> Well no one responded to me so I won't respond to yours :P
19:30:27 <JacobMastel> It looks fine to me
19:30:34 <Bensawsome> SteveLamerton alright..... XD
19:30:36 <Bensawsome> lol
19:31:26 <JacobMastel> I just wanted to make sure TimClark didn't get annoyed with me for using his name
19:31:43 <Bensawsome> lol
19:32:53 <TimClarkIsInPM> needless repitition Bensawsome , no need to beat the dead horse, the point was made already
19:33:47 <SteveLamerton> TimClarkIsInPM: I hate to seem disagreeable, but it was more useful that the other two posts
19:34:00 <Bensawsome> when i started it jacob hadnt posted yet and i was called off to do something
19:34:05 <Bensawsome> and thank u SteveLamerton :D
19:34:08 <Bensawsome> lol\
19:35:03 <TimClarkIsInPM> had it been the first one i would agree, but drop the "Dude", throw in a "sorry" and make it a "But welcome ..."
19:35:28 <TimClarkIsInPM> then it would seem more polite and less rude
19:35:44 <SteveLamerton> markomlm_away: Just a note, you need to make sure your OpenOffice posts arent in Full HTML, it messes up the formating, I have reset it to filtered
19:36:02 <TimClarkIsInPM> JacobMastel: i don't mind the quote , but SteveLamerton was right, it wasn't very helpful
19:36:08 <JacobMastel> noted
19:38:28 <markomlm_away> SteveLamerton:Sorry, what do mean? I don't change it to full html...
19:39:17 <SteveLamerton> markomlm_away: Hmm, not sure then, your thread post keeps ending up as Full HTML which messes up the formatting
19:40:03 <markomlm_away> funny... but thank You for the fix whatever happened.
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19:47:32 <pabot> Wes|IT is Wesley aka windows[] || Wes irc Operator || Php Master || Suse n00b || UnrealIRCD Portable Dev || Portableapp's Support ||
19:48:01 <Bensawsome> ohai wes|IT wazzup????
19:48:07 <Bensawsome> why are there 2 of u o_0
19:48:32 <Bensawsome> there are 23 people here :D
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19:48:39 <Bensawsome> lol
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19:56:28 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
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19:56:56 <pabot> powerjuce is happy that: THE PHILLIES WON!!!!!!!! YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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19:57:01 <pabot> powerjuce is happy that: THE PHILLIES WON!!!!!!!! YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:02:08 * Wes|IT|Afk liks hydrairc auto nick change
20:02:13 <Wes|IT|Afk> likes*
20:02:18 *** Wes|IT|Afk is now known as Wes|IT
20:02:24 <Wes|IT> i was never here Bensawsome
20:05:32 <Bensawsome> lol
20:06:26 *** TimClarkIsInPM is now known as TimClark
20:06:42 * TimClark is testing
20:06:49 * powerjuce smashes TimClark with a brick
20:06:51 <powerjuce> ur here!
20:06:56 <Wes|IT> HOLY ***** [15:21] MaienM|Coding is n=MaienM@5ED09C45.cable.ziggo.nl Osama Bin Laden
20:07:08 * Wes|IT hides O.O
20:07:48 <MaienM|Coding> shhh, I'm hiding for the US government!!!!
20:07:54 <Wes|IT> :-p
20:08:00 <Wes|IT> from*
20:08:00 <JacobMastel-Busy> *from :P
20:08:04 *** JacobMastel-Busy is now known as JacobMastel
20:08:11 <MaienM|Coding> *from
20:08:17 <Wes|IT> did we bother you jacob
20:08:20 <MaienM|Coding> :P
20:08:34 <JacobMastel> No
20:08:41 <JacobMastel> Not at all why?
20:08:41 <Wes|IT> kk :)
20:08:51 <MaienM|Coding> that means we have to try harder!!
20:08:53 *** powerjuce is now known as powerjuce|hackin
20:08:58 <Bensawsome> MaienM|Coding :P
20:08:59 <Wes|IT> u came on just as we were bothering MaienM|Coding
20:09:14 <JacobMastel> No I wanted to join the fun :P
20:09:28 <MaienM|Coding> powerjuce: the l33t h4x0r!!!
20:09:46 <Wes|IT> rofl
20:09:46 <JacobMastel> powerjuce|hackin: hackin' is illegal :P
20:10:05 <Bensawsome> :P
20:10:06 <Wes|IT> JacobMastel: no its not
20:10:10 <Bensawsome> Wes|IT lol
20:10:15 <JacobMastel> How is it not?
20:10:15 <MaienM|Coding> JacobMastel: that depends.... hacking your own pc to test it's security is perfectly legal;)
20:10:16 <Wes|IT> hackers made linux
20:10:21 <JacobMastel> lol
20:10:24 <Wes|IT> you ment crackers :|
20:10:27 <MaienM|Coding> and hacking is not the right term...
20:10:33 <MaienM|Coding> exacly Wes|IT;)
20:10:53 *** markomlm_away has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:10:55 <Wes|IT> aka cracking not the kind you eat ;)
20:11:08 <JacobMastel> Wes|IT: was that an insult to white people? I'M TAKING OFFENSE :P
20:11:21 <MaienM|Coding> though I eat crackers for breakfast!!!!
20:11:25 * Wes|IT turns on *HULK MODE*
20:11:36 <Wes|IT> you wanna peice of me :-D
20:11:40 <Wes|IT> piece*
20:11:41 * JacobMastel hides behind Tim
20:11:45 *** Bensawsome is now known as HULK
20:11:53 * MaienM|Coding slaps HULK
20:12:07 * HULK grabs MaienM|Coding and throws him out of the atmosphere
20:12:08 <Wes|IT> lol
20:12:08 <TimClark> guys, join us in -ot please for this
20:12:19 <JacobMastel> Ben you registered HULK?
20:12:19 *** MaienM|Coding is now known as Momma-Hulk
20:12:26 <JacobMastel> Take it to OT
20:12:26 <Wes|IT> qui runing the fun tim no won needs help :-p
20:12:27 <KevinPorter> I appreciate that Momma-Hulk. :P
20:12:28 * SteveLamerton says -ot
20:12:31 <Wes|IT> quit*
20:12:31 <HULK> JacobMastel npope :P
20:12:39 <Wes|IT> one*
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20:15:05 *** powerjuce|hackin is now known as powerjuce
20:15:19 *** Momma-Hulk is now known as MaienM
20:16:17 *** The|BIG|MAMA is now known as Wes|IT
20:16:22 *** Wes|IT is now known as The|BIG|MAMA
20:16:23 * SteveLamerton leaves -ot
20:16:39 * powerjuce slaps SteveLamerton around a bit with a large trout
20:17:04 * JacobMastel tells powerjuce to kut down a tree with a harring
20:17:16 <KevinPorter> *cut
20:17:20 <KevinPorter> *herring
20:17:32 <TimClark> SteveLamerton: you should stay there as we could give background support if it is needed in there
20:17:36 <JacobMastel> lol
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20:17:43 <TimClark> KevinPorter: and JacobMastel -ot please
20:17:50 <SteveLamerton> TimClark: When you do just ask, I shall run right on over
20:17:56 <KevinPorter> TimClark: What'd I do???
20:18:09 <TimClark> sorry, that was JacobMastel and powerjuce
20:18:19 <TimClark> how the hell did i make that mistake
20:18:21 <JacobMastel> KevinPorter: you corrected my spelling.
20:18:23 <JacobMastel> ?
20:18:27 <KevinPorter> :P
20:18:32 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Coding
20:18:46 <PatrickPatience> TimClark: You just naturally assumed it was Kevin as he's the trouble-maker... it's understandable.
20:19:10 <powerjuce> TimClark: wat the hell i did nothing
20:19:24 <JacobMastel> (12:31:35 PM) ***powerjuce slaps SteveLamerton around a bit with a large trout
20:19:29 <JacobMastel> I think he refered to that
20:19:34 <JacobMastel> And my comment right afte
20:19:36 <TimClark> wb PatrickPatience , you missed all the fun that moved to -ot :-(
20:19:42 <The|BIG|MAMA> take it to -ot kiddies :-p
20:20:11 <JacobMastel> You can't say that to ops especially when one of them is currently opped :P
20:20:13 <MaienM|Coding> SteveLamertonL -ot is safe again;)
20:20:30 *** HULK is now known as NinJew
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20:20:57 <powerjuce> Gizmokid2005: how did u like mib earlier/
20:21:02 <JacobMastel> stop playing with nicks please.
20:21:10 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce: lol what do you mean?
20:21:15 <powerjuce> the one tat did b
20:21:15 <powerjuce> b
20:21:16 <powerjuce> b
20:21:25 <Gizmokid2005> I swear to god...I almost kicked it
20:21:30 <KevinPorter> Lol.
20:21:32 <powerjuce> i looked at the log
20:21:36 <JacobMastel> Gizmokid2005: kicked what?
20:21:43 <powerjuce> it looked like it was just enough not 2 kick
20:21:46 <Gizmokid2005> the mib user from earlier
20:21:50 <Gizmokid2005> exactly
20:21:52 <Gizmokid2005> that's why I didn't
20:21:56 <JacobMastel> Got a linky?
20:21:56 <powerjuce> but after the second time u should hav kicked him/her
20:22:19 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 u mean the chinese one?
20:22:21 <Gizmokid2005> I know...I"m too nice sometimes...oh well
20:22:21 <JacobMastel> .def loggin
20:22:22 <pabot> JacobMastel: I have no idea who or what loggin is.
20:22:27 <JacobMastel> .def logging
20:22:27 <pabot> JacobMastel: logging is done by palogbot. palogbot's logs are at http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs/ . Statistics are generated by StatBot and are available at http://ircstats.co.cc/
20:22:29 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: no, that was a PA user, not a MIB user
20:22:36 <Bensawsome> o where is that....
20:23:01 <Gizmokid2005> http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/irc/logs/?t=2008-11-02#T14-12-02
20:23:04 <Gizmokid2005> that's where it started
20:24:14 <SteveLamerton> I just missed it :(
20:24:19 <Bensawsome> lol nice......
20:24:47 <TimClark> hello powerjuce , how are you today
20:25:02 <powerjuce> ANNOYED
20:25:15 <TimClark> sorry to hear that, what's up
20:25:18 <powerjuce> i spent 3 hours trying 2 get a wireless card working with a distro of linux
20:25:19 <PatrickPatience> What? Someone called me? Oh... it's just the logs... :(
20:25:23 <powerjuce> and then it did not work
20:25:27 <PatrickPatience> What a stupid domain name.
20:25:31 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: lol, you aren't important anymore, just your logs
20:25:37 <Gizmokid2005> that's ok...I did the same thing...
20:25:57 <TimClark> powerjuce: i hear *nix has lots of hardware problems
20:26:09 <PatrickPatience> http://gizmokid2005.com
20:26:12 <powerjuce> it does
20:26:13 <PatrickPatience> Muah ha ha!
20:26:38 <powerjuce> but this one is smaller than windows 98 and is pretty nice looking
20:26:38 <Gizmokid2005> see :)
20:26:39 <Gizmokid2005> lol
20:27:17 <KevinPorter> TimClark: Ubuntu has very few hardware problems.
20:27:30 <KevinPorter> From my personal experience, and others' I know.
20:27:31 <powerjuce> ubuntu does
20:27:38 <TimClark> KevinPorter: just software ones :P
20:27:38 <powerjuce> hav very few
20:27:48 <powerjuce> TimClark: not many software issues eiter
20:27:52 <KevinPorter> TimClark: I dunno what you're talking about. :P
20:27:58 <powerjuce> http://appnr.com/
20:28:04 <TimClark> oh, i yes you Whine then
20:28:32 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh* sorry guys, brb again. Moving back to the desktop
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20:28:55 <KevinPorter> I don't need Wine. Linux supports all the software I need.
20:29:05 <KevinPorter> Except PortableApps.com. :(
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20:29:08 <Bensawsome> lol
20:29:08 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
20:29:18 <TimClark> duh, KevinPorter , duh :D
20:29:23 <KevinPorter> :P
20:29:39 <Gizmokid2005> back again :)
20:29:41 <Gizmokid2005> finally home in VIRC again :D
20:30:16 <Bensawsome> lol
20:30:48 <TimClark> really Gizmokid2005 why not come to #gizmoFartsAboutVIRCagainSpam and tell us about it :p
20:31:14 <Gizmokid2005> lol TimClark
20:31:16 <Gizmokid2005> jealous?
20:31:17 <Gizmokid2005> lol
20:31:40 <TimClark> nope, it just sounded cute :d
20:31:51 <MaienM|Coding> wow, I didn't know that long names were allowed.....
20:31:51 <Gizmokid2005> lol, just checking
20:31:57 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM|Coding, they aren' ;)
20:32:00 <Gizmokid2005> *aren't
20:32:05 <MaienM|Coding> yes they are:P
20:32:17 <MaienM|Coding> at least I can join.....
20:32:21 <Gizmokid2005> lol
20:32:53 <TimClark> can i register that channel, it works :O
20:32:59 <Gizmokid2005> lol
20:35:04 <MaienM|Coding> that was mean....
20:35:14 <Gizmokid2005> yes it was
20:36:31 <TimClark> ok, that was enough sillyness for a day
20:36:49 <Gizmokid2005> yup
20:37:04 <MaienM|Coding> I am surprised none tried to ghost me after my register fail xD
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20:41:33 <Gizmokid2005> brb
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20:42:08 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
20:44:15 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh*
20:44:55 <TimClark> problem Gizmokid2005
20:45:17 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark, not really...general PC issue I had to take care of
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20:48:39 <SteveLamerton> Bye all, see you tomorrow
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20:49:26 <JacobMastel-Busy> Dave still hasn't gotten back from his brb has he?
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20:51:52 <PatrickPatience> I love Paint.NET and all, but this is ridiculous: http://blog.getpaint.net/2008/09/24/paintnet-version-40-system-requirements/
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20:52:52 <thegreyspot> Quick question, how can I get the portable app menu to auto open
20:53:42 <PatrickPatience> thegreyspot: Unfortauntely, the closest we can get it an AutoRun.
20:54:03 <PatrickPatience> The AutoRun feature in Windows is turned on by default, but can be turned off of some machines as well.
20:54:27 <PatrickPatience> We have a file so it should pop up a box asking you if you'd like to run the menu, but this will not work if the PC has AutoRun disabled.
20:55:12 <KevinPorter> Note: It won't work on Vista, either.
20:55:14 <KevinPorter> At all.
20:55:16 <Bensawsome> :(
20:55:18 <PatrickPatience> In Vista, AutoRun is disabled by default, however.
20:55:25 <PatrickPatience> Kevin FTW.
20:55:47 <PatrickPatience> I wanna install Vista kindasorta.
20:55:53 <PatrickPatience> I've just got that urge.
20:56:15 <JacobMastel-Busy> I have Vista and it works well for me.
20:56:16 <KevinPorter> :D
20:56:32 <KevinPorter> You won't be disappointed PatrickPatience. :)
20:56:44 <JacobMastel-Busy> Just disable the UAC that is so annoying.
20:56:47 <PatrickPatience> Lol, I've had it installed, and I was dissapointed.
20:56:59 <JacobMastel-Busy> But once that's gone vista's actually nice
20:57:04 <PatrickPatience> Not like it sucks like everyone makes it out to be, but there's a lot of annoying things, and not all that many upsides.
20:57:06 <KevinPorter> JacobMastel-Busy: But UAC makes it so much more secure.
20:57:09 <JacobMastel-Busy> OH and some programs need admin privs
20:57:15 <PatrickPatience> KevinPorter: For the average user.
20:57:18 <JacobMastel-Busy> Cause they save settings in Program Folders
20:57:20 <KevinPorter> Okay, given.
20:57:32 <PatrickPatience> But really, I've never had a Virus myself, and I don't understand how people get them.
20:57:56 <thegreyspot> Its a shame that you can tell it to open in wmp but you cant choose other programs
20:58:00 <thegreyspot> like the portableaps menu
20:58:01 <thegreyspot> oh well
20:58:05 <thegreyspot> thanks for your answer!
21:00:29 <thegreyspot> "But really, I've never had a Virus myself, and I don't understand how people get them." I totally agree!
21:01:00 <JacobMastel-Busy> I've only had a few but I have had to fix many people's
21:01:26 <JacobMastel-Busy> A lot comes from not having protection or downloading the wrong crap or bad sites like free tv movies stuff
21:01:38 <thegreyspot> Ya thats true
21:01:49 <thegreyspot> it really depends on your activities i guess
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21:04:27 <PatrickPatience> Once again, this WGA thing blows my mind.
21:04:40 <JacobMastel> Hey DaveDixonII your finally back
21:04:48 <JacobMastel> TimClark: you've got the stopwatch how long? :P
21:04:51 <TimClark> PatrickPatience: what you mean
21:05:28 <PatrickPatience> Windows Genuine Advantage.... it... it doesn't work that well.
21:05:33 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: How long was i gone?
21:06:23 <powerjuce> o wait why?
21:06:32 <powerjuce> ;p;
21:07:14 <thegreyspot> If you had to choose one app for you jump drive which one would you choose?
21:07:16 <thegreyspot> Im trying to find new ones
21:07:18 <thegreyspot> :)
21:07:53 <powerjuce> regfromapp
21:08:59 *** KevinPorter is now known as KevinPorter|away
21:09:01 <powerjuce> is lightscreen released?
21:09:10 <JacobMastel> Yeah I think so
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21:09:49 <Gizmokid2005> thegreyspot, either Firefox or Pidgin
21:09:55 <JacobMastel> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/lightscreen_portable
21:09:59 <powerjuce> found it
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21:11:14 <thegreyspot> regfromapp sound interesting
21:11:31 <thegreyspot> May have to use that one day lol
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21:18:30 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.co.cc. He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.co.cc
21:18:57 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 i think i gonna try virc :P
21:19:04 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome, why?
21:19:11 <Gizmokid2005> lol
21:19:20 <Bensawsome> well u been ranting so much i though i would see what the big deal is :S
21:19:24 <Gizmokid2005> lol
21:19:26 <Gizmokid2005> ask steve
21:19:28 <Gizmokid2005> he agrees :)
21:19:41 <PatrickPatience> Ask Patrick, he doesn't.
21:19:46 <PatrickPatience> He says X-Chat FTW!
21:19:46 <Bensawsome> :P
21:19:52 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience, I wasn't talking to you
21:19:54 <Gizmokid2005> you are biased
21:19:56 <Gizmokid2005> shhhh
21:19:57 <powerjuce> miranda FTW
21:20:09 <TimClark> stop the clock mark 2:35
21:20:12 <Gizmokid2005> VIRC runs in less that 15MB RAM space :)
21:20:12 <PatrickPatience> Gizmokid2005: Bias FTW!
21:20:18 <Gizmokid2005> *than
21:20:20 <PatrickPatience> TimClark: Hmm?>
21:20:28 <DaveDixonII> Timclark: Heh?
21:20:30 <PatrickPatience> Good for it Gizmokid2005. :P
21:20:36 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience yup :D
21:20:37 <TimClark> ok, guys , i had to promise ot only be on for w more hours, my time is up
21:20:45 <Gizmokid2005> lol
21:20:47 <Gizmokid2005> ttyl TimClark
21:21:01 <TimClark> i now have to do work at home
21:21:31 <TimClark> but i can prove that i did limit myself to 2hours, i have the log to back me up :D
21:21:40 <TimClark> later
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21:22:49 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 is it just me or does this program have no installer :S
21:23:03 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome, the .7z you downloaded from my site, htere isn't one
21:23:07 <Gizmokid2005> but there actually is one
21:23:08 <Gizmokid2005> *there
21:23:49 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 nither is there one for that one.....
21:23:54 <Gizmokid2005> yes there is
21:24:02 <Gizmokid2005> you didn't download the right DL
21:24:05 <Gizmokid2005> you just downloaded the update
21:24:16 <Bensawsome> not when i dled it from thier site :S
21:24:17 <Gizmokid2005> that's why I told you to use my .7z
21:24:17 <Bensawsome> o ok
21:24:20 <Gizmokid2005> BEN
21:24:21 <Bensawsome> which one then????
21:24:22 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh*
21:24:37 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.visualirc.net/download.php?name=2.0
21:24:40 <Gizmokid2005> download from there
21:24:49 <Gizmokid2005> Maintenance Update
21:24:49 <Gizmokid2005> This version is a maintenance update to 2.0, which was released 12 Jan 2004. If you don't have 2.0 already, you may need to download it first before installing the update.
21:24:54 <Bensawsome> ok found it ;)
21:25:00 <Gizmokid2005> you are one of the worst users...I swear
21:25:51 <JacobMastel> Don't swear that's mean
21:25:56 <JacobMastel> :P
21:25:58 <Gizmokid2005> oh I am
21:25:59 <Bensawsome> ya Gizmokid2005 :P
21:26:02 <Gizmokid2005> like a sailor
21:27:32 <Bensawsome> :P
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21:28:45 <DaveDixonII> Ok Ben and Gizzy where talking. About what?
21:28:51 <Gizmokid2005> visualIRC
21:28:54 <DaveDixonII> Sorry gizmo i dont feel like typing your nick
21:29:02 <Gizmokid2005> tab completion ftw DaveDixonII
21:29:10 <JacobMastel> DaveDixonII: tipe giz and the hit ta
21:29:12 <JacobMastel> *tab
21:29:25 <DaveDixonII> COOL! :D
21:29:31 <Gizmokid2005> you can just use a g because I'm the only one with a g
21:29:42 <DaveDixonII> Gizmokid2005, Test. :D
21:29:49 <Gizmokid2005> see
21:29:50 <Gizmokid2005> so much easier
21:29:52 <DaveDixonII> Thank you very much Gizmokid2005 :D
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21:29:56 <Gizmokid2005> tab completion rocks
21:30:00 <Gizmokid2005> better thank JacobMastel too
21:30:01 <DaveDixonII> pa_8411, Hello. :D
21:30:04 <JacobMastel> hi pa_
21:30:05 <pa_8411> hello
21:30:07 <JacobMastel> pa_8411:
21:30:09 <Gizmokid2005> hello pa_8411, is there something we can help with?
21:30:15 <pa_8411> i need some help with miranda
21:30:22 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter|away, You there yet?
21:30:34 * Gizmokid2005 steps down, this one is yours powerjuce
21:30:36 <JacobMastel> LOGAN: You're a miranda user aren't you?
21:30:47 <JacobMastel> pa_8411: what kinda help do you need?
21:30:54 <powerjuce> wats mine?
21:31:03 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8411's question
21:31:13 <JacobMastel> powerjuce: pa_8411 needs help with Miranda
21:31:29 <powerjuce> pa_8411: u r the best in the world!!
21:31:32 <DaveDixonII> pabot, hello
21:31:37 <DaveDixonII> hello pabot1
21:31:41 <DaveDixonII> hello pabot!
21:31:41 <pabot> Hi DaveDixonII!
21:31:47 <DaveDixonII> Awesome.
21:31:48 <powerjuce> DaveDixonII: please go somewhere lese
21:31:51 <DaveDixonII> Thanks JAcobMastel
21:31:55 <powerjuce> pa_8411: wats the problem?
21:32:00 <JacobMastel> pa_8411: what's wrong with Miranda?
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21:32:57 <pa_8411> i can get it 2 link 2 a irc channel?
21:33:12 <JacobMastel> Like as a buddy?
21:33:19 <JacobMastel> I don't think you can
21:33:46 <powerjuce> pa_8411: u hav the irc plugin active right?
21:34:26 <pa_8411> yes
21:34:36 <powerjuce> ok then go to "main menu"
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21:34:52 <powerjuce> then click irc
21:34:56 <powerjuce> then click join channel
21:35:00 <pa_8411> oh ok
21:35:01 <pa_8411> thanks
21:35:15 <pa_8411> how come u r not voiced powerjuce ?
21:35:31 <powerjuce> whoa
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21:35:34 <powerjuce> why do u care?
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21:36:04 <pa_8411> well u r the only one who helped me with miranda
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21:36:51 <powerjuce> ask anyone else who has voice
21:37:04 <pa_8411> DaveDixonII: why does powerjuce not hav voice?
21:37:10 <JacobMastel> pa_8411: I would help but I don't know anything about Miranda
21:37:13 <JacobMastel> I use pidgin
21:37:21 <DaveDixonII> pa_8411, he doesnt want it right now i guess
21:37:31 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8411, I'm in the same boat as JacobMastel, I don't use Miranda.
21:37:59 <powerjuce> pa_8411: if it makes u happy
21:38:02 <powerjuce> here
21:38:06 <powerjuce> better?
21:38:14 <pa_8411> yes
21:38:25 <powerjuce> ok...
21:38:44 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8411, is that all we can help you with?
21:38:56 <Gizmokid2005> frankly the question you just asked should not have been.
21:39:22 <pa_8411> huh?
21:39:31 <Gizmokid2005> about powerjuce's channel mode
21:39:33 <JacobMastel> pa_8411: he means voiced privs are not your business
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21:42:06 <powerjuce> pa_8411: u still here right?
21:42:08 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8411, are you still there?
21:42:10 <pa_8411> yea
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21:42:13 <DaveDixonII> Sorry about that
21:42:19 <pa_8411> powerjuce: btw ur tor host is pretty good
21:42:28 <powerjuce> pa_8411: ok thanks
21:42:30 <powerjuce> go away
21:42:49 <pa_8411> HAHAHAHA
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21:42:59 <haxor> hahahahaha
21:43:07 <DaveDixonII> c-68-32-234-161.hsd1.pa.comcast.net Ehh.
21:43:22 <haxor> DaveDixonII: that is my host
21:43:31 <powerjuce> DaveDixonII: no that is my host!!!
21:43:34 <LOGAN> JacobMastel-Away: im a miranda user, currently using Pidgin though
21:43:38 <powerjuce> he friggin stole it
21:44:13 <DaveDixonII> powerjuce: Sorry i accidently pressed cntl+v insead of cntl+z
21:44:26 <DaveDixonII> That was from ALONG time ago
21:44:31 <powerjuce> does not matter
21:44:32 <Bensawsome> lol
21:44:35 <powerjuce> but it is still my host
21:44:39 <powerjuce> and he is using it
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21:44:42 <Bensawsome> powerjuce ur from pa arent u :P
21:44:43 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com Moderator and Developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
21:44:49 <LOGAN> 3D model finished although Ill probably tweak it: http://www.albartus.com/3d/Sloep.jpg <- groundplane is a sattelite image for positioning.
21:44:49 <powerjuce> watever haxor i hav ur real host
21:44:59 <powerjuce> i am going 2 screw u over
21:45:06 <LOGAN> powerjuce: ahem
21:45:09 <DaveDixonII> powerjuce: What? woh!!
21:45:13 <PatrickPatience> LOGAN: Impressive.
21:45:14 <haxor> try!!!!
21:45:15 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce, chill please
21:45:19 <haxor> i will own u
21:45:23 <DaveDixonII> A little over board. :(
21:45:28 <Gizmokid2005> haxor, enough. Stop or leave
21:45:29 <haxor> i stole ur program
21:45:35 <Gizmokid2005> one and only warning
21:45:35 <haxor> i can beat u anyway
21:45:36 <LOGAN> thanks PatrickPatience, but many details are done with photos
21:46:20 <Bensawsome> hey Gizmokid2005 u know you can also ban what is in the "real name" field of peoples clients in freenode ;)
21:46:28 <Gizmokid2005> I know :)
21:46:34 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 isnt it awsome :D
21:46:39 <DaveDixonII> ;)
21:46:54 <Bensawsome> that means even if mibbits user try to come back they would still be banned <3
21:46:57 <Bensawsome> lol
21:47:12 <powerjuce> haxor: done real: ip host and mac
21:47:27 <DaveDixonII> powerjuce: Calm down seriously.
21:48:04 <Bensawsome> lol
21:48:43 <powerjuce> bye haxor
21:48:44 <powerjuce> in
21:48:46 <powerjuce> 3...
21:48:48 <powerjuce> 2...
21:48:49 <powerjuce> 1...
21:48:52 <powerjuce> NOW
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21:49:00 <powerjuce> HAHAHAHA
21:49:00 <LOGAN> guys dont confure username with customizable 'real name'
21:49:02 <powerjuce> it worked
21:49:15 <powerjuce> LOGAN: in mibbit the real name is the hostmask
21:49:23 <PatrickPatience> powerjuce: What just happened?
21:49:44 <Bensawsome> LOGAN we know :P
21:49:44 <powerjuce> PatrickPatience: i released a program as an alternative to tor
21:49:51 <LOGAN> Nick: haxor
21:49:51 <LOGAN> Username: i=4420eaa1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-39210568da28470e
21:49:51 <LOGAN> Real name: c-68-32-234-161.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
21:50:03 <PatrickPatience> powerjuce: Hmm?
21:50:08 <DaveDixonII> WTHeck?
21:50:10 <powerjuce> it will create a hostmask that will not include tor, basically making u the other user
21:50:13 <Bensawsome> LOGAN so u can still ban people who have that in their real name :)
21:50:36 <PatrickPatience> I see.
21:50:38 <powerjuce> PatrickPatience: however the only people that will find out and use it are hackers
21:50:40 <LOGAN> Bensawsome: you dont ban people based on name but host mask
21:50:40 <DaveDixonII> I dont see
21:50:53 <powerjuce> LOGAN: the name is the hostmask
21:50:53 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII tor, google it
21:51:04 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII http://www.torproject.org/
21:51:04 <powerjuce> DaveDixonII: however this is more effective because it is a complete switch
21:51:05 <DaveDixonII> I know what tor is but how?
21:51:15 <Gizmokid2005> it basically creates a network through other people
21:51:16 <LOGAN> ah haxor already gone
21:51:29 <powerjuce> watever i flooded his computer with every virus i own
21:51:35 <powerjuce> as well as all the trojans
21:51:42 <powerjuce> and an irc based script
21:51:48 <powerjuce> which i triggered with the countdown
21:51:56 <powerjuce> LOGAN: /whowas haxor
21:52:11 <PatrickPatience> powerjuce: :|
21:52:17 <Bensawsome> LOGAN YOU CAN ON FREENODE :P
21:52:33 <powerjuce> PatrickPatience: wat? :)
21:52:44 <PatrickPatience> What about viruses?
21:52:56 <powerjuce> wat do u mean?
21:52:58 <Bensawsome> LOGAN: see this: +d (realname ban) This mode takes one parameter, a mask which is matched against the so-called "Real Name" field each client supplies, and