IRC Log from 2008-11-03

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00:02:58 <pabot> chrisroby is blah, is blah, developer of blah blah, he likes blah, and blah, but not pink blah, or blah waffles, so blah :p
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00:13:27 <DaveDixonII> Errr. Hi
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00:14:42 <chrisroby> DaveDixonII?
00:14:51 <DaveDixonII> chrisroby?
00:15:58 <chrisroby> what was the errrr hi thing about?
00:16:46 <DaveDixonII> No one is talking?
00:17:02 <chrisroby> it happens to often in here :(
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00:23:14 <pabot> kai_62656 is here. He is developing LMarbles and Lincity-NG Portable and LOVES WAFFLES
00:23:22 <LOGAN> why is it when someone doesnt continue support for an portable app they remove any download links?
00:29:56 *** PatrickPatience is now known as PatrickPatienceT
00:30:28 <LOGAN> anyone know the place where one could find the complete PortableApps menu source code, including changes scince the last official version?
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00:34:36 <LOGAN> PatrickPatienceT: would'nt you agree that every test, beta and outdate portable app should be uploaded to Sourceforge for archiving purposes?
00:36:03 <DaveDixonII> ZachThibeau: Are you there?!?!
00:36:30 <LOGAN> meh on sourceforge only toucan and the PA Updater sourcecode is available
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00:37:01 <LOGAN> This seems the only open source application where corrent developement is keps hush hush
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00:39:02 <PatrickPatience> LOGAN: What do you mean?
00:39:15 <PatrickPatience> If someone wants to mirror them, sure. It's a great idea.
00:39:21 <PatrickPatience> But having everyone use SourceForge is lame.
00:39:32 <PatrickPatience> Their upload and file release system is long and horrible.
00:40:12 <PatrickPatience> My server is a good call... it's not going anywhere. We have a large majority of users on my server.
00:40:17 <PatrickPatience> 15-20, infact.
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00:43:04 <ZachThibeau> DaveDixonII: Busy atm
00:43:20 <DaveDixonII> ZachThibeau: But your getting Staff on my server. ;)
00:45:36 <LOGAN> PatrickPatience: last time I uploaded 8 apps ranging from a few MB to 70MB in one evening
00:46:26 <PatrickPatience> It's not the upload speed.
00:46:30 <LOGAN> there are many beta apps all over the net, your server, public file hosters, peoples own webspace etc
00:46:41 <PatrickPatience> It's the fact you have to upload, create release, attach, etc.
00:46:50 <LOGAN> and history already shows apps dissapearing
00:46:51 <PatrickPatience> And SourceForge's server can be slow slow slow.
00:47:03 <LOGAN> yeh the making a release is a bit stif
00:47:15 <PatrickPatience> Mine won't, and that's a guarantee! Or you get your money back.
00:47:22 <PatrickPatience> I spoke to John about this.
00:47:23 <LOGAN> I did it like this, forst I uploaded all apps, then made the releases etc.
00:47:56 <LOGAN> I dont mean to be rude, but having a historically proven server is a good thing
00:48:20 <PatrickPatience> Historicially proven?
00:48:22 <LOGAN> not for your serer, but for all those betas..
00:48:50 <LOGAN> PatrickPatience: well sourceforge will be online in 5 years from now unless the world stops turning
00:49:16 <PatrickPatience> Yeah. But their release system sucks and and it long and slow. You can't really argue that.
00:49:24 <PatrickPatience> If people wanna use SourceForge, I totally encourage that.
00:49:27 <PatrickPatience> I won't myself.
00:49:40 <PatrickPatience> But if they don't, my server is the next best central place.
00:49:54 <LOGAN> I agree the release system is akward, it takes 2 minutes per uploaded file to link it to a realease
00:50:38 <PatrickPatience> Not on my internet.
00:50:42 <PatrickPatience> That's why I got my own hosting.
00:50:49 <PatrickPatience> Their system was (and my still be) messed up
00:50:55 <LOGAN> I uploaded the 'lost' apps to the portable apps orphaned sourceforge
00:50:56 <PatrickPatience> It would keep constantly logging me out.
00:50:59 <PatrickPatience> I just gave up.
00:51:33 <LOGAN> well you aint gonna host 100MB+ projects Im sure
00:51:40 <PatrickPatience> Sure I am.
00:51:48 <PatrickPatience> 1000 gigs bandwidth monthly.
00:51:51 <PatrickPatience> 25 gigs disk space.
00:51:58 <LOGAN> haha I heard you cry when I announced my 600MB files
00:52:08 <PatrickPatience> Heh/.
00:52:28 <PatrickPatience> I'd suggest SourceForge for large files, as they have the bandwidth.
00:52:36 <LOGAN> yeh
00:52:50 <PatrickPatience> http://portableapps.com/node/16510#comment-102465
00:52:53 <PatrickPatience> Heh... what rumors?
00:53:22 <LOGAN> I picked up on a snippet of a post by John claiming Monday a first alpha
00:53:41 <PatrickPatience> *milk shoots out nose*
00:53:56 <LOGAN> but I didnt say "John said he gonna publish an alpha on monday" as you know how he works
00:54:00 <PatrickPatience> Heh... I'll believe other stuff he says... but never the menu. :P
00:54:03 <LOGAN> so I called it a rumor
00:54:09 <LOGAN> indeed
00:54:11 <LOGAN> lol
00:54:43 <LOGAN> one year ago he replied in a post of mine: after the weekend.. im still waiting :P
00:55:31 <LOGAN> it was like to make a launcher aware which apps are installed on portable device to link to other apps if needed
00:55:38 <PatrickPatience> Heh.
00:55:51 <LOGAN> alas, I waited and grew a beard to make santa proud
00:56:01 <PatrickPatience> That last I saw of the menu was a preview (screenshot) back in like June with a couple extra features.
00:56:24 <PatrickPatience> The themers and I think Ryan got a binary. :(
00:56:34 <LOGAN> I wonder if the other 3 developers are allowed to go wild or if its the bottleneck issue all over again
00:57:18 <LOGAN> making the MODders official developers killed the progress on all menus lol
00:57:34 <LOGAN> very Microsoft-ish
00:57:37 <LOGAN> :P
00:58:44 <PatrickPatience> What?
00:58:50 <PatrickPatience> How did it kill the progress?
00:59:00 <LOGAN> i just hope the developement of the menu becomes public open source and releases more frequent
00:59:14 <LOGAN> well remember all the Menu mods?
00:59:25 <LOGAN> they were quite active in adding functionality
00:59:45 <LOGAN> then the mod developers were made official menu developers
01:00:00 <PatrickPatience> Ahh.
01:00:00 <LOGAN> scince then there was only one update to MenuMOD
01:00:03 <PatrickPatience> Yes, yes it did.
01:00:22 <PatrickPatience> I find it hard to believe there's other developers working on the menu.
01:00:29 <PatrickPatience> I honestly believe it's just John.
01:00:34 <PatrickPatience> Like, there's nothing in SVN.
01:00:40 <LOGAN> I think they got a branch
01:00:42 <PatrickPatience> I haven't seen the other developers around.
01:00:45 <PatrickPatience> Yeah?
01:00:50 <LOGAN> thats weird
01:01:17 <LOGAN> at least if there was a repository
01:01:40 <PatrickPatience> Lol... http://portableapps.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/portableapps/
01:01:42 <PatrickPatience> Of course.
01:02:02 <LOGAN> yeh
01:02:05 <LOGAN> no menu
01:02:27 <LOGAN> bad bad bad for an Open Source (OSI approved) biassed project
01:03:13 <PatrickPatience> Yeeeeep.
01:03:34 <PatrickPatience> Been sayin' it forever.
01:03:47 <LOGAN> I dunno whats the idea behind that decision.... perfectionist and control I guess
01:04:48 <LOGAN> even the version themers got... I think there were functions stripped from that lol
01:05:39 <DaveDixonII> Election day is tuesday?
01:05:42 <LOGAN> I would say make SVN repo, let the programmers go wild and when theres a stable version, release it.
01:05:54 <LOGAN> Hossein for president
01:06:01 <LOGAN> erm
01:06:03 <LOGAN> lol
01:06:09 <DaveDixonII> Is it?
01:06:15 <LOGAN> idk
01:06:19 <LOGAN> you should know
01:06:29 <DaveDixonII> i would ask kevin, but he isnt here when you need him. :P
01:07:34 <LOGAN> google it
01:07:52 <LOGAN> no Palin for president I hope
01:07:59 <PatrickPatience> David, you're American, you should know thi.
01:08:00 <PatrickPatience> *this
01:08:04 <PatrickPatience> Goodness. :P
01:08:08 <DaveDixonII> I honestly dont.
01:08:11 <PatrickPatience> Yes, it's Tueday, FTR.
01:08:11 <LOGAN> McKain is like.... 119 years old
01:08:25 <LOGAN> oh thats the fries
01:08:29 <DaveDixonII> I really dont care whoses President. :/
01:08:29 <PatrickPatience> LOGAN: Did you hear the Palin Prank Call?
01:08:31 <LOGAN> McCain?
01:08:35 <PatrickPatience> DaveDixonII: :|
01:08:43 <PatrickPatience> Have views, my friend.
01:08:46 <LOGAN> PatrickPatience: no, but have you seen Obama Girl?
01:08:51 <PatrickPatience> Lol, no.
01:09:07 <Havvy> I don't care who is president: Obama or McCain; They both will do terribly.
01:09:12 <DaveDixonII> PatrickPatience: what do you want me to view?
01:09:14 <LOGAN> search Obama Girl on Youtube :)
01:09:28 <PatrickPatience> You should care who runs your country. :P
01:09:31 <LOGAN> Havvy: if you look it at that, choose McCain as hes 100
01:09:34 <PatrickPatience> You certainly will when you're older.
01:09:58 <LOGAN> does he have a cain, btw?
01:10:23 <LOGAN> you guys need a president that can be respected by other countries
01:10:35 <LOGAN> and also one that is smart
01:10:36 <Havvy> LOGAN: He doesn't.
01:10:56 <LOGAN> no cain for McHammer... erm... Cain?
01:11:16 <LOGAN> MC Cain lol
01:11:21 <DaveDixonII> Is this it??!!??!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU
01:11:25 <LOGAN> I can't touch this
01:11:51 <LOGAN> DaveDixonII: yes and she made much more
01:12:12 <DaveDixonII> She does look a little hott . :)
01:12:12 <DaveDixonII> oh thats off topic
01:12:13 <LOGAN> better that the McCain Girls "It's raining McCain
01:12:41 <LOGAN> yes, nerds like us don't like hot girls :P
01:13:05 <DaveDixonII> Oh so im suppose to like you? :P
01:13:40 <LOGAN> eh... dude..
01:13:52 <DaveDixonII> It was a joke. ;)
01:13:57 * DaveDixonII has a gf
01:14:25 <LOGAN> having a blue eye... gf (good fight)
01:14:30 <LOGAN> lol
01:15:05 <DaveDixonII> gf = girl friend. :P
01:17:04 <LOGAN> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekSxxlj6rGE Obama Girl vs. Juliani Girl
01:19:48 <DaveDixonII> Im watching that now. :D
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01:20:10 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
01:20:13 <rbrt13> hello
01:21:58 <PatrickPatience> Hey Robert.
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01:22:19 <pabot> kai_62656 is here. He is developing LMarbles and Lincity-NG Portable and LOVES WAFFLES
01:22:45 <Havvy> kai_62656: How far are you on those two games?
01:22:57 <rbrt13> PatrickPatience: DaveDixonII says hi
01:23:12 <DaveDixonII> I love phones. :D
01:23:13 <PatrickPatience> Oh... kay.
01:23:29 <rbrt13> yes, i got a new cell phone
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01:30:36 <KevinPorter> PatrickPatience: Are you alive?
01:32:20 <rbrt13> no
01:32:42 <KevinPorter> Crap.
01:36:44 <PatrickPatience> Yes, of course.
01:36:56 <Havvy> No you aren't!
01:37:05 * Havvy hits you with a large blunt object.
01:37:56 <MaienM|Coding> ouch!!
01:37:57 <DaveDixonII> Dang. Master (Patrick)! Where'd you go?
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01:39:15 * rbrt13 pokes my eye
01:39:16 <rbrt13> OW
01:39:31 <KevinPorter> Genius. :P
01:40:48 <PatrickPatience> Watchin' last weeks Boston Legal.
01:41:50 <DaveDixonII> Desperate Housewifes in 5 MINNUTES!!!
01:41:51 <DaveDixonII> AHHH
01:41:57 <PatrickPatience> freak.
01:42:02 <Havvy> Bleh, bad show.
01:42:09 <DaveDixonII> rbrt13: Nevermind about the phone call unless you are still gonna be up still @ 10
01:43:20 <DaveDixonII> I LOVE DESPERATE HOUSEWIFES! :D
01:43:39 <KevinPorter> Not enough to know how to actually spell it... :P
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01:43:53 <dbdii-gone> BB:
01:43:55 <dbdii-gone> BBL*
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02:02:49 <pa_7552> Hola
02:03:40 <pa_7552> dbdii-gone: desperate housewives really? Yuck
02:03:56 <pa_7552> ZachThibeau: Did you get your program figured out?
02:04:17 <ZachThibeau> pa_7552: huh?
02:04:24 <pa_7552> Oops sorry
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02:04:32 <JacobMastel> Better?
02:04:35 <MaienM|Coding> xD
02:04:45 <JacobMastel> I identified but forgot to change the nick :P
02:04:50 <ZachThibeau> JacobMastel: haven't started yet
02:05:18 <ZachThibeau> JacobMastel: been but trying to fix my friends laptop
02:05:25 <JacobMastel> What's wrong with it?
02:05:55 <ZachThibeau> os error and cdrom beiing shot to kingdom come :S
02:06:09 <ZachThibeau> almost fixed
02:06:20 <Havvy> Ouch.
02:06:21 <ZachThibeau> Jut replaced cdrom drive
02:06:36 <ZachThibeau> and now reinstalling winxp for him
02:06:37 <Havvy> Does the USB drive still work?
02:06:42 <ZachThibeau> yup
02:06:44 <Havvy> Install Linux...
02:06:56 <ZachThibeau> he doesn't want linux
02:07:12 <Havvy> Install it anyways. :P
02:07:16 <JacobMastel> Havvy: Most people don't link linux
02:07:30 <ZachThibeau> nope i respect my clients wishes :P
02:07:45 <JacobMastel> I only use it for file recovery the majority of the time
02:08:09 <LOGAN> breaking news: Microsoft stops with Windows 3.11
02:08:18 <ZachThibeau> lol
02:08:53 <LOGAN> actually while the OS sint available anymore for years and years some copy machines, car dashboards and other things still were using Windows 3.11
02:09:16 <ZachThibeau> :O
02:09:20 <ZachThibeau> really
02:11:02 <PatrickPatience> Don't restart him.
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02:12:13 <PatrickPatience> Hmm.
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02:21:19 <JacobMastel> Bensawsome: just gussing by the quality of the site.
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02:40:17 <pabot> chrisroby is blah, is blah, developer of blah blah, he likes blah, and blah, but not pink blah, or blah waffles, so blah :p
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02:42:51 <pabot> powerjuce is happy that: THE PHILLIES WON!!!!!!!! YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:43:26 <Havvy> .defpowerjuce needs to grow up
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02:48:07 <Havvy> PatrickPatience: Try bookmarking the link.
02:48:22 <PatrickPatience> I know the link. I'm just lazy.
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02:55:02 <DaveDixonII> I practically felt like i lived in my basement
02:56:24 <ZachThibeau> been there done that
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02:56:29 <ZachThibeau> literally
02:56:30 <rbrt13> my dad lives in a basement
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03:08:05 <dbdii407> KevinPorter! Where did u go?!!?
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03:11:19 <Havvy> Who has the ability to edit pa.com? The Mibbit widget needs to be disabled temp. as one of the machines died.
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03:12:01 <PatrickPatience> I can edit PortableApps.com/Support/Chat
03:12:09 <DaveDixonII> Awesome
03:12:14 <DaveDixonII> And i care why?
03:12:39 <PatrickPatience> (23:26:15) Havvy: Who has the ability to edit pa.com? The Mibbit widget needs to be disabled temp. as one of the machines died.
03:13:24 <Havvy> PatrickPatience: Disable the page for now. It's causing IE folks to crash their browser due to one of the servers being hung.
03:13:37 <PatrickPatience> Just trying to connect at all?
03:13:58 <PatrickPatience> I can't disable /Live, I'll have to try to let John now.
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03:15:55 <PatrickPatience> Oh wow, it does.
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03:16:22 <alpha1beta> hello...
03:16:30 <PatrickPatience> Back up Havvy.
03:16:30 <rbrt13> hello
03:16:35 <alpha1beta> squibbleSquile would be dave?
03:16:45 <rbrt13> yes
03:16:45 <alpha1beta> yep.
03:17:05 <SquibbleSquile> I got bored with DaveDixonII. I decieded to be interesting for about 15 minutes
03:17:11 <alpha1beta> lol
03:17:21 <PatrickPatience> I just named one of my bots QuintonQuallock, cheers! :P
03:17:34 <alpha1beta> :D Patrick, silly...
03:17:40 <SquibbleSquile> Yahoooaooo!
03:18:03 <alpha1beta> Yahooolagins!! .com!
03:18:09 <PatrickPatience> yahooserious.com
03:18:23 * SquibbleSquile got ran over by a car. Please try your call again at 8:15:23am :)
03:18:56 <Havvy> PatrickPatience: Seems to be....
03:19:16 <SquibbleSquile> Just dont def me. :/
03:19:17 <Havvy> Or not...
03:19:31 <SquibbleSquile> .def SquibbleSquile
03:19:31 <pabot> SquibbleSquile: SquibbleSquile is your one best friend. :D
03:19:38 <Havvy> lol
03:20:13 <SquibbleSquile> Ok, now dont def me. :/
03:21:37 <SquibbleSquile> Is my 15 minutes over?
03:23:50 <alpha1beta> yes
03:23:51 <SquibbleSquile> .twitter dbdii407
03:23:52 <pabot> dbdii407: @KevinPorter SquibbleSquile says hi on irc. ;)
03:23:56 <SquibbleSquile> XD
03:24:03 <SquibbleSquile> .twitter kevinporter
03:24:04 <pabot> kevinporter: @dbdii407 Umm, right... I guess I say &quot;hi&quot; back.
03:24:24 <SquibbleSquile> Someone tell him he does not wanta know
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03:25:25 <PatrickPatience> I'll kill you Twitter function.
03:25:37 <alpha1beta> :d
03:25:47 <alpha1beta> I thought you wanted to burn my live twitter
03:25:47 <rbrt13> yay ampersand ( & )
03:25:49 <DaveDixonII> PatrickPatience: Be my guest. I hate it so much i use it to much.
03:26:14 <PatrickPatience> I'm sure he only added it to use the Twitter API.
03:26:32 <DaveDixonII> That IS what pabot does. :P
03:28:00 <PatrickPatience> What?
03:28:08 <DaveDixonII> Nevermind.
03:28:24 <PatrickPatience> I mean, to prove he can create something that uses the Twitter API. :P
03:28:37 <DaveDixonII> When ever i talk to patrick i feel like im talking to a brick wall. Anyone else have that odd feeling?
03:32:38 <DaveDixonII> Gosh i was just kidding
03:32:39 <DaveDixonII> :P
03:32:53 <DaveDixonII> This time thing screwed me up. Im tired at 11!
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03:33:30 <PatrickPatience> Lol: http://makeuseof-temporary.blogspot.com/
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03:50:57 <Gizmokid2005> I am back
03:50:59 <Gizmokid2005> yay lol
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04:07:37 <Gizmokid2005> hello zac
04:07:44 <Gizmokid2005> ....wow, fail
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04:24:11 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is an #portableapps op and a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
04:24:42 <ChrisMorgan> .seen JohnTHaller
04:24:42 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: I last saw johnthaller at 2008-11-01 23:03:12 UTC on #portableapps
04:24:43 <ChrisMorgan> .t UTC
04:24:43 <pabot> 2008-11-03T04:39:35Z
04:24:49 <Gizmokid2005> hello ChrisMorgan
04:24:59 <ChrisMorgan> Not been in. Ah well.
04:25:02 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Gizmokid2005
04:30:07 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: you were going to test my Inkscape Portable, weren't you? Have you?
04:30:44 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: so, we have some votes for +O for ops, and a "caution" from Kevin. What do you think, are we ready to do it?
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05:04:43 <pabot> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
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06:09:53 <upnPAD|3> oh
06:09:57 <upnPAD|3> wth
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06:17:44 <pabot> excid3 is lead dev of Keryx, computer security phreak and hosts a blog at http://excid3.betaserver.org
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07:31:12 <upnPAD> hey rmccue
07:31:32 <upnPAD> if you have time, or when you do, could you try making my python script into a windows executable
07:31:50 <rmccue> Just run py2exe
07:32:50 <excid3> py2exe is awesome :D
07:34:54 <TaffinFoxcroft> as in py2exe from site i forget?
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07:35:01 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM, and thats that. He is fairly good at PHP, and is learning C++ atm. Oh, and he'll help you if its needed, too.
07:35:02 <TaffinFoxcroft> .g py2exe
07:35:04 <pabot> TaffinFoxcroft: http://www.py2exe.org/
07:35:20 <rmccue> py2exe should be included with python, I think.
07:35:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> may have to put it in python portable 2.6
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07:35:33 <rmccue> Mebbe not.
07:35:38 <excid3> rmccue: no its not
07:35:45 <rmccue> lol, someone didn't identify in time
07:35:51 <rmccue> excid3: Ah, okay.
07:35:59 <TaffinFoxcroft> its not, but i'll include it in python portable
07:36:14 <excid3> TaffinFoxcroft: you should :)
07:36:33 <excid3> im learning to use wxWidgets with python right now
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07:41:41 <rmccue> wxPython ftw.
07:41:47 <rmccue> I need to learn how to use that.
07:44:29 <upnPAD> hey rmccue, I tried, but failed, kept saying something couldnt be found
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08:14:31 <TaffinFoxcroft> .news
08:24:25 <rmccue> .news
08:24:29 <rmccue> :/
08:24:33 <rmccue> pabot: reload news
08:24:34 <pabot> rmccue: <module 'modules.news' from 'C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\phenny\modules\news.pyc'> (version: 2008-09-26 11:08:15)
08:24:36 <rmccue> .news
08:24:47 <rmccue> Oops :P
08:26:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> .news
08:26:45 <TaffinFoxcroft> whats the diff?
08:26:58 <upnPAD> so could you try py2exe'ing it for me rmccue :>
08:27:02 <upnPAD> it's only a small script
08:36:20 <upnPAD> or
08:36:27 <upnPAD> tell me how to do it :/
08:41:24 <TaffinFoxcroft> upnPAD: http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/Tutorial
08:41:58 <upnPAD> i tried
08:42:01 <upnPAD> i just fail :/
08:42:18 <TaffinFoxcroft> all hail, the king of fail! :D
09:04:42 <upnPAD> hey rmccue is \n #10 or #13?
09:04:55 <rmccue> I don't know.
09:04:56 <upnPAD> line feed or carriage return?
09:05:01 <rmccue> .wik ASCII character codes
09:05:07
09:08:24 * TaffinFoxcroft wonders what upnPAD is doing
09:09:07 <upnPAD> #10
09:09:11 <upnPAD> ta ryan
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10:29:46 <DaveDixonII> rmccue: are you there?
10:29:56 <rmccue> Mhm.
10:30:00 <DaveDixonII> PM?
10:30:06 <rmccue> Sure.
10:30:09 <DaveDixonII> Thanks
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11:08:26 <pabot> KevinPorter is just an all-around geek. He's usually busy with school, but he does some photography here and there and blogs at http://kevinporter.co.cc
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11:37:24 <rmccue> Stupid internets.
11:37:26 <rmccue> Clogged again.
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11:37:47 <rab040ma> Need drano?
11:38:18 <rmccue> .wik Drano
11:38:30 <rmccue> Ergh, 'course, pabot will be dead.
11:38:39 <rab040ma> drain cleaner
11:38:50 <rab040ma> unclogger
11:39:08 <rab040ma> for clogged pipes
11:39:19 <rab040ma> sorry, attempt at humor
11:39:19 <rmccue> Ah.
11:39:28 <rmccue> I figured that what it'd be.
11:39:35 <rmccue> * that's
11:40:06 <rmccue> .twitter dbdii407
11:40:11 <rmccue> Gah.
11:40:13 <rmccue> Meh.
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11:40:29 <rmccue> Bye.
11:40:42 <rmccue> Better than leaving an illusion.
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11:42:27 <PatrickPatience> Ryan...
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12:09:57 <Bensawsome> :O no PABOT :(
12:09:58 <Bensawsome> lol
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12:15:49 <ZachThibeau> howdy folks
12:16:02 <ZachThibeau> The Zach is Bach :P
12:16:09 <ZachThibeau> oops I mean Back XD
12:16:16 <ZachThibeau> Stupid music class
12:18:14 <Bensawsome> hi
12:18:16 <Bensawsome> lol
12:18:22 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau no pabot :(
12:18:29 <ZachThibeau> :D
12:18:34 <Bensawsome> -_-
12:18:51 <ZachThibeau> No people trying to play with defs :D
12:18:59 <Bensawsome> lol
12:19:00 <Bensawsome> true
12:19:08 <Bensawsome> but then that means no defs period :(
12:21:55 <Wes|IT> lol
12:22:04 * Wes|IT dont care about def
12:25:46 <Wes|IT> ZachThibeau: what instrument
12:26:30 <ZachThibeau> Wes|IT: no instument atm (I play over 20) our music class is all theory
12:26:36 <ZachThibeau> Advanced Theory
12:26:48 * ZachThibeau misses playing the instruments though
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12:48:19 <MaienM> whoa... clones,,,
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13:28:41 <Gizmokid2005> hello OliverK
13:28:48 <OliverK> hello Gizmokid2005
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13:29:14 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
13:29:34 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
13:29:46 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: My Passport drive has arrived :D
13:29:53 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton :D
13:30:00 <Gizmokid2005> YAY!
13:30:17 <SteveLamerton> Just copying the contents of my USB drive to it, taking ages, the usb is very slow
13:30:57 <Gizmokid2005> I bet
13:31:01 <rab040ma> got some comparative HDtune numbers?
13:31:12 <SteveLamerton> rab040ma: I can get some
13:32:04 <SteveLamerton> You will only get read numbers though, I am not going to buy the pro version ;)
13:32:51 <SteveLamerton> Better wait until the file copying is done too
13:33:07 <rab040ma> you could also copy a longish file to each and give times
13:34:39 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, will do, I plan on running a backup of it from Toucan to and giving comparitive numbers, I will put it all up in a blog post I think
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13:36:05 <SteveLamerton> Hello ZachThibeau
13:36:15 <Gizmokid2005> hello ZachThibeau
13:36:16 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
13:36:30 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: howdy Michael
13:37:39 <OliverK> Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning
13:38:54 <ZachThibeau> OliverK: I know already, When Forgotten mad VBA, He took shortcuts making the emu and the core is a huge mess and the vba-m team is trying to clean it up , so far we think the best solution is a total core rewrite :S
13:39:12 <ZachThibeau> oops I meant made
13:39:34 <OliverK> possible
13:39:50 <OliverK> i would hate to do a total rewrite on some thing though :(
13:39:53 <OliverK> is a pain
13:40:15 <ZachThibeau> Thats the reason mudlord quit (he's back though)
13:42:20 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html
13:43:04 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: not all rewrites are bad :)
13:43:41 <SteveLamerton> No, but they out to be a last resort I think
13:43:42 <OliverK> Gizmokid2005: http://portableapps.com/node/16493
13:43:45 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: They are keeping the original alive until the rewrite is complete and has the level of emulation is at the same level as the original
13:44:53 <OliverK> still, seems like a huge pain :(
13:45:03 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: and not to forget with the rewrite they are going to impliment a QT Interface for a universal look for all os platforms :)
13:45:42 <SteveLamerton> Ahh, now that is a good reason :)
13:45:47 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK, I saw...I actually agree....Make it more of an OP choice whether or not its +O
13:46:08 <OliverK> k, just wanted to make sure
13:46:31 <Gizmokid2005> yup
13:46:37 <Gizmokid2005> my post is up towards the top
13:46:42 <ZachThibeau> I'm going to have to agree with that too :P
13:46:43 <Bensawsome> hey guyses
13:46:50 <Gizmokid2005> hello Bensawsome
13:46:54 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau, good :P
13:46:55 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: guyses?
13:46:58 <Bensawsome> lol
13:47:14 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: is that even a real word in the english dictionary
13:47:23 <Bensawsome> no prbly not
13:47:30 <ZachThibeau> :P
13:47:36 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+guyses&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
13:47:38 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome = fail
13:47:42 <Bensawsome> :P
13:48:13 <Bensawsome> lol no definition XD
13:48:27 <ZachThibeau> lol
13:48:34 <ZachThibeau> .wik guyses
13:48:40 <ZachThibeau> crap
13:48:43 <ZachThibeau> no pabot I forgot
13:48:45 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau fail :P
13:48:46 <ZachThibeau> XD
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13:49:03 <Bensawsome> kind of like..... XD
13:49:12 * SteveLamerton thinks HDTune doesnt work well in vista
13:49:25 * Bensawsome pokes SteveLamerton
13:49:28 <SteveLamerton> It gives me the same numbers for the USB and HDD
13:49:31 <SteveLamerton> Hello Bensawsome
13:49:32 <Bensawsome> lol
13:49:36 <Bensawsome> hey SteveLamerton ;)
13:49:41 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton, I agree, they are NOT the same
13:50:04 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I am doing a Toucan backup now instead
13:50:14 <Bensawsome> what r we talking about >_>
13:50:23 <ZachThibeau> it's funny how PatrickPatience's Signature changed only slightly :P http://portableapps.com/node/8124#comment-42406
13:50:29 <SteveLamerton> My new hard disk :)
13:50:35 <Bensawsome> o nice :)
13:50:43 <Bensawsome> o i gtg for a few cya guyses
13:50:57 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: fail
13:51:23 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau, patrick fail lol
13:51:57 <ZachThibeau> :P
13:52:06 <ZachThibeau> it only changed by 1 word
13:53:16 <Gizmokid2005> yup
13:53:33 <ZachThibeau> :P
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13:58:39 <ZachThibeau_> <_< I hate switching from wifi to ethernet
13:58:47 <ZachThibeau_> especially when I am on IRC
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13:59:09 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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13:59:18 <Gizmokid2005> that's why you disconnect first
13:59:22 <Gizmokid2005> then switch :P
13:59:28 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I tried
13:59:33 <Gizmokid2005> no no
13:59:37 <Gizmokid2005> closing you IRC client first
13:59:38 <Gizmokid2005> jeez
13:59:38 <Gizmokid2005> :P
13:59:55 <ZachThibeau> I tried
13:59:57 <ZachThibeau> honestly
14:00:02 <Gizmokid2005> lies
14:00:23 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I clicked the x just as ai turned off my wifi :(
14:00:34 <Gizmokid2005> you need to click the x first
14:00:35 <Gizmokid2005> :P
14:00:44 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I did
14:00:51 <Gizmokid2005> and make sure it closes....because if you don't actually disconnect before you kill your internet, then you won't disconnect from the services :P
14:01:03 <ZachThibeau> *sigh*
14:01:04 <SteveLamerton> Hmm, in backuping up the new drive is 15% faster
14:01:12 <Bensawsome> :)
14:01:23 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton, it should be much faster...unless your actual USB bus is just slow on that computer
14:01:47 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: great I'm no disconnected from xfire now XD
14:01:48 <ZachThibeau> http://www.kailiu.com/notepad2/
14:01:57 <ZachThibeau> it's a nice modification of Notepad2 :D
14:02:13 <ZachThibeau> it has code folding and other extensions
14:02:36 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Not to my knowledge, I shall just boot the other pc and se
14:02:38 <SteveLamerton> *see
14:03:58 <Gizmokid2005> hmmm
14:04:09 <Gizmokid2005> because it was a tremendous difference between my flash drive and passport
14:04:16 <Gizmokid2005> and I was upping from a flashvoyager GT
14:04:27 <ZachThibeau> frig Firefox is taking a large memory dump XD
14:04:37 <ZachThibeau> I thought they fixed that
14:04:44 <SteveLamerton> Be right back!
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14:06:14 <ZachThibeau> Stupid Memory leak :S
14:06:59 <ZachThibeau> It's probably the eraser instance I'm running :(
14:07:01 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau, it's one of your extensions!
14:07:21 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I only use 1 and it's called Adblock Plus
14:07:27 <Gizmokid2005> hmmm
14:07:28 <Gizmokid2005> I use that
14:07:31 <Gizmokid2005> plus a slew of others
14:07:31 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I like to keep firefox light ;)
14:07:38 <Gizmokid2005> and I don't have memory issues
14:07:56 <ZachThibeau> like I said it's probably a combination of eraser running and me running foobar 2000
14:07:59 <Gizmokid2005> the only time I have memory issues is when I'm running Chatzilla too
14:08:19 <ZachThibeau> I got eraser deleting 4 gigs :S
14:08:30 <Gizmokid2005> lol
14:08:31 <ZachThibeau> (I need the space)
14:08:41 <Gizmokid2005> I'm glad I don't have that issue
14:08:43 <Gizmokid2005> lol
14:08:45 <ZachThibeau> Just old os files
14:08:46 <Gizmokid2005> :D
14:08:56 <ZachThibeau> Old windows XP files :P
14:09:02 <Gizmokid2005> lol
14:09:06 <Gizmokid2005> so why not just delete them?
14:09:10 <Gizmokid2005> instead of eraser them
14:09:32 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: because eraser is actually deleting them without giving me a fuss
14:09:49 <ZachThibeau> I tried doing it with the delete key but it keeps giving me permission errors
14:09:49 <Gizmokid2005> lol
14:10:03 <Gizmokid2005> deltree ftw :)
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14:11:20 <Bensawsome> orly?
14:12:44 <excid3> no rly
14:13:05 <excid3> :)
14:13:15 <ZachThibeau> man I felt like opening up a new server tab and logging in as pabot just for the fun of it but... It wouldn't work :P I don't know peoples def to repeat back in time and also I'm not a fast typer
14:13:38 <excid3> :P
14:13:43 <excid3> you fail
14:13:52 <Bensawsome> lol
14:13:58 <ZachThibeau> exceedingly :(
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14:14:59 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: you just missed Gizmokid2005 :P
14:15:11 <SteveLamerton> Bummer
14:16:32 <excid3> this looks very helpful...the wxPython online docs are straight copies of the C++ ones...
14:16:44 <ZachThibeau> pretty much :P
14:16:52 <ZachThibeau> to a nth degree that is :P
14:16:57 <excid3> haha
14:17:12 <excid3> this is much more like visual basic than GTK
14:18:03 <ZachThibeau> nice :)
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14:18:18 <ZachThibeau> howdy ByronT
14:18:24 <ByronT> hello
14:18:25 <excid3> ZachThibeau: i didnt say that was a good thing :P
14:18:41 <ByronT> just doing some searching before asking a question....
14:18:42 <ZachThibeau> excid3: but then again you didn't say it was bad either
14:18:51 <excid3> nope :)
14:18:52 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: take your time :)
14:19:02 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: when you are ready give me a ping
14:19:04 <excid3> i dont know if its good or bad, we shall see
14:19:16 <excid3> well im off to class, peace out girlscouts :P
14:19:18 <ByronT> icons not showing in vista....
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14:19:36 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: sounds like you need to clear your icon cache
14:19:56 <Gizmokid2005> I'm back btw :)
14:20:07 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: there was a forum topic on the main site that i am going to try and find for you
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14:21:03 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: I found it but it was for xp :/
14:21:09 <SteveLamerton> I think it is a crap drive
14:21:10 <ByronT> :)
14:21:17 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: you know how to clear the cache in Vista
14:21:34 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton, why?
14:21:36 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau, I do not
14:21:36 <SteveLamerton> Sure, start -> then search for system cleanup, it is there
14:22:04 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: It has stopped showing up in my computer
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14:22:49 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton...hmmmm
14:23:11 <SteveLamerton> Ahh and back, hmm, random
14:23:28 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: try following these instructions for Icon cache clearing restart and report what happens after
14:23:29 <ZachThibeau> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/73720-thumbnail-cache.html
14:24:06 <ByronT> already there... and was doing that....
14:24:14 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: oops I meant this link http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/117229-icon-cache-rebuild.html
14:24:26 <ByronT> right...
14:24:36 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Would you mind running HDTune on your drive if you have it handy?
14:24:47 <Gizmokid2005> I don't have the app, but I always have the drive :)
14:24:57 <SteveLamerton> It is a free download
14:25:03 <Gizmokid2005> k
14:25:22 <SteveLamerton> Thanks :)
14:25:27 <ZachThibeau> guys Please move chat to -ot until support is done
14:25:42 <ZachThibeau> ty
14:26:29 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: This is support
14:27:09 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: Let me know when you done all that ok
14:27:20 <ByronT> did it... no change
14:27:29 <ByronT> trying something else though
14:27:30 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: you need a restart
14:27:38 <ByronT> two computers here
14:27:45 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: ahh nice :)
14:27:55 <ZachThibeau> got to love 2 computers :P
14:28:34 <ZachThibeau> more importantly is 3 computers which I have in my dorm room :P
14:28:45 <ZachThibeau> anyways...
14:28:46 <ByronT> laptop and desktop side by side - linked to use same mouse / keyboard with Stardock's Multiplicity
14:29:09 <SteveLamerton> Time to restart I think, I shall be right back guys
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14:29:34 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: another thing you could do though is reinstall the PortableApps.com Platform
14:30:15 <ByronT> I was trying the reinstall of one of the apps first
14:30:49 <ByronT> but that had no effect... I'll do that later, I need a larger flash drive to setup ReadyBoost anyways... :)
14:30:51 <ZachThibeau> ByronT: not the apps the actual Menu
14:30:59 <ByronT> right
14:32:12 <ZachThibeau> guys someone has to take over, I got class now
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14:36:47 <SteveLamerton> And back, I think it is this pc
14:37:30 <ByronT> yeah, I'm not sure what's causing the blank icons on the vista machine... but then I'm not going to let it bother me either...
14:37:45 <ByronT> was hoping it was a known issue, with a quick fix. :)
14:38:02 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton - using FFP, TBP, PP, SBP, VIRC, and playing a song in SBP, I get 28.6MB/s avg
14:38:08 <ByronT> Tell Zach "Thanks" later for me!
14:38:24 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, on this pc it flatlines at 22.5, on the other I go 30+
14:38:33 <SteveLamerton> ByronT: Will do
14:38:39 <Gizmokid2005> I know I'd get more, 1, without running so many apps, and 2, on a better PC
14:38:54 <SteveLamerton> Hmm, I think it must be this pc, how annoying!
14:39:22 <Gizmokid2005> let me try the other drive that I have here, that nothing is running on, hold on SteveLamerton
14:39:28 <SteveLamerton> Thanks :)
14:40:04 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Is yours NTFS or FAT32?
14:40:15 <Gizmokid2005> the one I just did was FAT32
14:40:31 <SteveLamerton> OK, the same, just checking :)
14:40:33 <Gizmokid2005> yup
14:40:37 <Gizmokid2005> I had it NTFS originally
14:40:44 <Gizmokid2005> and had a 20GB truecrypt file for PA
14:40:50 <Gizmokid2005> but my mac won't write to NTFS
14:41:00 <Gizmokid2005> so I had to reformat to FAT32 and downsize my PA tc file to 4GB
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14:42:24 <SteveLamerton> How annoying!
14:42:30 <Gizmokid2005> That is was
14:43:11 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton, 29MB/s on the other drive
14:43:16 <Gizmokid2005> so not much difference
14:43:23 <SteveLamerton> OK, and was the line you got completely flat?
14:43:33 <Gizmokid2005> I would expect a little variation on my home PC
14:43:35 <Gizmokid2005> absolutely not
14:43:36 <Gizmokid2005> not even close
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14:44:41 <mib_3gsjlz> hi
14:44:42 <mib_3gsjlz> hi
14:45:05 <OliverK> Hello, mib_3gsjlz. Is there something that the PortableApps.com community can help you with today?
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14:45:15 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: I think it is these ports doing some throttling then as it is dead flat at 23.5 mbs
14:46:16 <OliverK> i've had that happen
14:46:21 <OliverK> its depressing :(
14:47:00 <SteveLamerton> OliverK: What throttling?
14:47:15 <mib_3gsjlz> is it possible to get aircrack to be portable?
14:47:16 <OliverK> usb 1.1
14:47:29 <OliverK> dead locked at .9 read, .6 wirte
14:47:44 <OliverK> mib_3gsjlz: is there a windows port of it? I think its all source code
14:47:57 <mib_3gsjlz> i think so
14:48:04 <mib_3gsjlz> never mind
14:48:29 <OliverK> theoretically, yes. However, the complexity of the app may just make it worth booting BackTrack3 live
14:54:22 <mib_3gsjlz> hi
14:54:23 <mib_3gsjlz> hi
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14:56:38 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, looks like I have hit the limits of AMD'S SB600 chipset
14:58:43 <OliverK> oh, that sucks :(
14:59:41 <SteveLamerton> Still browsing in Firefox is now smooth :)
15:01:01 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/node/15471
15:01:12 <OliverK> 3.1 beta or the 3.0?
15:01:43 <OliverK> I'm using 3.0 and as long as stay away from certain sites (not to name any names, walmart) it doesn't hang
15:03:04 <SteveLamerton> 3.1 beta, on the old usb drive it would hang quite often
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15:04:36 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton, that is weird...
15:05:38 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Yeah, reading reviews of the chipset on this mobo no-one seems to get more than ~25mbs out of it, so I think the drive is fine, still browsing it lovely on it anyway :)
15:10:21 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton, yeah that would cause it
15:10:27 <Gizmokid2005> the drive is awesome :D
15:10:38 <SteveLamerton> Yes, Firefox is soooo smooooth :D
15:10:39 <Gizmokid2005> its the write that are the huge issue anyways
15:11:00 <Gizmokid2005> i know :)
15:11:11 <Gizmokid2005> and ext hdd is the way to go :D
15:11:32 <SteveLamerton> Yes, I realise the error in my ways ;)
15:12:05 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton, it is ok. You have redeemed yourself. Welcome to the good life :)
15:12:31 <SteveLamerton> Yes, I am loving it :D
15:12:43 <Bensawsome> hey guys WITNO???? http://portableapps.com/node/16505#comment-102526
15:12:46 <OliverK> Gizmokid2005: laptop :D
15:12:55 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK??
15:13:05 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005??
15:13:10 <OliverK> k, MMT needs a gentle nudge
15:13:14 * Wes|IT yawns *BIG*
15:13:21 <OliverK> Gizmokid2005: laptop, better then ext hdd :D
15:13:22 <Wes|IT> sry guys i fell asleep
15:13:32 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK :P not when you can't use the laptop
15:13:33 <Bensawsome> OliverK gentle hmmmm i will give him a GENTLE nudge.... right off a cliff
15:13:52 <SteveLamerton> I am swapping to the other pc, be right back!
15:13:59 <Wes|IT> feel better now, i did not get a goods night sleep.
15:14:03 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton ok
15:14:05 <Bensawsome> :(
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15:14:46 <Wes|IT> anyways l8r i heas to work in 30 mins, i got to hand out WUkela for Mayor signs, which i dont want him to be mayor :-/
15:14:55 <Bensawsome> cya Wes|IT
15:14:58 <Wes|IT> but i work for his dad...
15:15:05 <Wes|IT> bye all be on l8r
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15:20:03 <OliverK> NO FREAKING WAY?! IS IT THAT FRIGGIN" EASY WELL THEN WHY HECK HAVE I SPENT OVER 12 HOURS ON INTELLILUANCH???????!!!!!
15:20:05 <OliverK> Is your capslock key stuck? Is your shift key stuck? No? I don't believe you.
15:20:07 <OliverK> Mix Master Trixz, 3 weeks ago, you made <a href=http://portableapps.com/node/16111>This Post</a>. At first, you did well. Again, you have relapsed.
15:20:12 <OliverK> Extracting a file doesn't mean its portable. It means you cheated the installer.
15:20:14 <Gizmokid2005> welcome back SteveLamerton
15:20:14 <OliverK> Please, refrain from such nonsense. If you don't know the answer, don't post. If you don't have something involving software, don't post. If you can't say something nice, don't post.
15:20:50 <Gizmokid2005> I'll give him a nudge...right down the ban tubes
15:21:00 <OliverK> think I should post it?
15:21:08 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Thanks :) So are we banning MMT?
15:21:18 <Gizmokid2005> I don't see any reason to give him another chance
15:21:24 <SteveLamerton> Awesome :D
15:21:27 <Gizmokid2005> if it was up to me...he'd be gone
15:21:28 <Gizmokid2005> but I'm not a mod
15:21:30 <Gizmokid2005> so don't ask me ;)
15:21:40 <OliverK> k, I posted, and I'm gone
15:21:42 <OliverK> later guys
15:21:46 <Gizmokid2005> bye ol
15:21:49 <Gizmokid2005> *OliverK
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15:22:40 <SteveLamerton> Not even I can ban! Has to be John, Ryan might be able to do it, but I dont think so
15:23:56 <SteveLamerton> I can put in a request for ban though
15:24:05 <Gizmokid2005> imho, he should be
15:24:09 <Gizmokid2005> he's done nothing but be a pest
15:24:16 <Gizmokid2005> he was warned how many times?
15:24:25 <Gizmokid2005> how many more times does he have to be warned?
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15:24:59 <Gizmokid2005> bahhumbug...
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15:26:55 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: so I take it you would like be to email John then
15:27:37 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton, how you handle it is completely up to you. If someone was to ask my opinion, that would be it. He should be banned. He has been warned too many times
15:28:37 <SteveLamerton> Did oliver have to post this: http://portableapps.com/node/16505#comment-102539
15:30:55 <Bensawsome> SteveLamerton yes......
15:31:01 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton, I think it was a little unnecessary...but maybe it will give MMT a kick in the arse
15:32:40 <SteveLamerton> Perhaps over the top, we shall see what MMT does next before I email John
15:32:48 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
15:36:24 <Bensawsome> mmmhhmmm
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15:46:30 * SteveLamerton cant get over this new drive :D
15:47:42 <Gizmokid2005> :)
15:47:46 <Gizmokid2005> it's a big step SteveLamerton, I know the feeling
15:48:03 <Gizmokid2005> I'm hoping to come up with a nice chunk of overtime on my next check so I can get a case for mine
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15:48:45 <SteveLamerton> Nice :) I guess it is just the way that firefox doesnt hang when opening multiple tabs that imporves things the most at the moment
15:48:52 <Gizmokid2005> yup
15:49:02 <Gizmokid2005> wait until you try to run multiple apps at once
15:49:04 <Gizmokid2005> that's a DREAM
15:49:30 <Gizmokid2005> right now I'm running FF, TB, Pidgin, Songbird, VIRC, and I'm not lagging at all :D
15:49:37 <Gizmokid2005> and songbird is playing music from the same drive
15:50:47 <SteveLamerton> Neat, currently I am doing firefox and pidgin, but I am about to try compiling Toucan on it ;)
15:50:56 <Gizmokid2005> :)
15:51:18 <SteveLamerton> Should stress it quite a lot I think!
15:51:22 <Gizmokid2005> I'd imagine
15:51:26 <Gizmokid2005> but remember, it's a hard drive :D
15:53:13 <SteveLamerton> Hmm, seems to be doing it just fine :)
15:53:15 <Gizmokid2005> :D
15:53:32 <Gizmokid2005> I don't toot my horn about my drive needlessly. It really deserves the praise it gets :)
15:53:59 <SteveLamerton> Well I am very impressed, thannks for the recommendation :)
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15:54:11 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton anytime :)
15:54:17 <SteveLamerton> Hello rab040ma
15:54:21 <rab040ma> hi
15:54:26 <Gizmokid2005> hello again rab040ma
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16:02:08 <SteveLamerton> Ahh, I thought it was quiet, the pabot is gone :D
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16:08:08 <SteveLamerton> Hello ZachThibeau
16:08:24 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
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16:08:44 <Gizmokid2005> hello ZachThibeau, TimClark
16:08:57 <TimClark> hello all :D
16:08:58 <SteveLamerton> Hello TimClark
16:09:08 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: howdy Michael
16:09:08 <TimClark> mark 10:22
16:09:18 <TimClark> SteveLamerton: oliver was over the top
16:09:40 <TimClark> not a whole lot, but it was a bit much
16:10:24 <SteveLamerton> TimClark: Yeah, he does need sorting though
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16:10:32 <SteveLamerton> Oh and how to we set statbot marks?
16:10:44 <TimClark> how is Gizmokid2005 today and ZachThibeau
16:11:06 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark, not too bad actually....I got to finally catch up on sleep this weekend
16:11:18 <TimClark> SteveLamerton: just use any word you want to use as as search word in the logs :D
16:11:25 <Gizmokid2005> it's the start of a new week, and the winds of change are blowing in my favor.
16:11:30 <ZachThibeau> TimClark: mighty fine with me :) did my term paper on sleep deprivation (used my self as a case study from the past 2 days trying to get it done) how are you TimClark?
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16:11:44 <Gizmokid2005> and you TimClark?
16:11:51 <SteveLamerton> TimClark: Ahh I see ;)
16:12:15 <Bensawsome> awww.... my home computer being mean again :( maybe my power went out :S
16:12:30 <TimClark> the reason i use the time is that patricks server time is off from my time, in the minutes as well as the hours
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16:13:21 <SteveLamerton> Ahh ok
16:13:28 <TimClark> from the log 16:12:30 <TimClark> the reason i use
16:13:44 <TimClark> from my view 10:27 TimClark> the reason i use
16:14:17 <SteveLamerton> Wow, that is rather off
16:14:35 <Bensawsome> palogbot: help
16:14:35 <palogbot> I'm a Python IRC logging bot. Source: http://inamidst.com/code/loggy.py Logging to: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs?t=
16:15:02 <TimClark> i have brought it to his attention, it's not a biggie, but kind of annoying , i can adjust for GMT, but the minutes drive me crazy
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16:17:29 <ZachThibeau> Ben was using CGI:IRC :D Finally someone using it other than me sometimes
16:17:30 <Gizmokid2005> I'm off to grab some food guys, be back soon
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16:17:39 <ZachThibeau> later Gizmokid2005|BRB
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16:19:10 <SteveLamerton> Bye Gizmokid2005|BRB
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16:43:59 <TimClark> gotta go guys, later, with a graceful mibbit part mark 10:58
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16:47:37 <ZachThibeau> yay for sudo Windows XP Look on Vista :D
16:47:45 <ZachThibeau> oops too much linux there
16:47:49 <ZachThibeau> I meant pseudo
16:50:01 * SteveLamerton chuckles
16:51:03 <ZachThibeau> I just wish there was a full luna theme for Vista :(
16:51:53 <ZachThibeau> the one I have sure looks like luna especially the start menu but the window manager and stuff like that isn't lunu enough for me
16:52:37 <SteveLamerton> You like luna???
16:52:45 <ZachThibeau> *sigh* yes
16:52:47 <ZachThibeau> :P
16:53:42 * Gizmokid2005|BRB is back
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16:53:44 <Gizmokid2005> all
16:53:45 <SteveLamerton> Freak ;)
16:53:46 <excid3|class> why hello again
16:53:48 <SteveLamerton> Hello Gizmokid2005
16:53:49 <Gizmokid2005> if you want to see what I did this weekend
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16:53:50 <Gizmokid2005> http://gallery.gizmokid2005.com/main.php?g2_itemId=4986
16:53:52 <Gizmokid2005> ;)
16:54:38 <SteveLamerton> Ooooh, fire!
16:55:17 <Gizmokid2005> yup :)
16:55:25 <Gizmokid2005> that's what I did at 7:30AM saturday morning
16:55:28 <Gizmokid2005> (this was scheduled though)
16:55:49 <ZachThibeau> :( reminds me of my next door neighbors house that burned down
16:56:00 <ZachThibeau> which was very close to burning our house too
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16:57:43 <kubrick.freenode.net> Users on #portableapps: palogbot iBog +ZachThibeau rab040ma recipro +SteveLamerton ZerFEr +Gizmokid2005 MaienM excid3 dbdii-gone Zarggg Mir tarbo wingot
16:57:46 <ZachThibeau> logs help
16:57:48 <ZachThibeau> :P
16:57:52 <Gizmokid2005> :)
16:57:52 <Gizmokid2005> yup
16:58:42 <ZachThibeau> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-fashion-sense-cat-springs-into-action.jpg
16:59:02 <ZachThibeau> I love this one n_n http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-polar-bear-slips-on-ice.jpg
17:01:22 <Gizmokid2005> saw them both ZachThibeau :P
17:01:42 <ZachThibeau> I wasn't really asking if you saw them or not now was I :P
17:01:45 <Gizmokid2005> :P
17:01:49 <Gizmokid2005> I was giving you a hard time
17:02:35 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: :O this is funny http://failblog.org/2008/11/03/wrestling-fail-2/
17:03:14 <ZachThibeau> that is an utter failure
17:09:00 <Gizmokid2005> LMFAO
17:12:41 <Gizmokid2005> brb
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17:20:00 <TimClark> Hello All :D mark 11:34
17:20:43 <Gizmokid2005|BRB> back
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17:20:46 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark
17:20:48 <excid3> hey TimClark
17:21:11 <TimClark> excid3: hello and Gizmokid2005 of course
17:21:14 <Gizmokid2005> :D
17:21:18 <SteveLamerton> Hello TimClark
17:21:36 <ZachThibeau> howdy TimClark
17:21:44 <excid3> o.o wxpython isnt documented hardly at all
17:21:52 <ZachThibeau> rofl
17:21:52 <TimClark> SteveLamerton: ZachThibeau :D
17:22:21 <ZachThibeau> I wish MAC OSX would finish downloading :P
17:22:38 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau, if you'd quit pirating...:P
17:22:46 <excid3> thats an unspeakable act
17:22:58 <excid3> how dare you twart the authorities?
17:23:02 <excid3> *thwart
17:23:04 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: not pirating :P I got my inside guy at Mac
17:23:09 <ZachThibeau> Apple
17:23:10 <ZachThibeau> :P
17:23:10 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau, riiiight :P
17:23:16 <excid3> ZachThibeau: oh steve
17:23:21 <excid3> yeah i know him personally too
17:23:21 <TimClark> i realize pabot is gone, does anyone know for how long, i'm wondering if someone got a message
17:23:26 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
17:23:29 <Gizmokid2005> rmccue knows
17:23:32 <Gizmokid2005> it was in my logs this morning
17:23:35 <Gizmokid2005> happened sometime last night
17:23:40 <Gizmokid2005> he's having interwebz issues
17:23:53 <TimClark> stop flooding Gizmokid2005 :P
17:24:01 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, sorry :( I really am
17:24:36 <TimClark> nothing happening in here i guess
17:24:37 <ZachThibeau> :O
17:25:10 <TimClark> i'm off for a cigarette bbs
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17:28:20 <ZachThibeau> hmm I wonder whats new at phpbb.com
17:31:37 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: http://zachthibeau.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4&p=55#p55
17:31:46 <Gizmokid2005> looking ZachThibeau
17:31:54 <Gizmokid2005> LOL
17:31:56 <Gizmokid2005> thanks :P
17:32:18 <ZachThibeau> np
17:34:09 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: You cant quote yourself!
17:34:22 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: I just did :P
17:34:35 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau, I know there's a way to do it...how do you modify the number of posts shown per page?
17:34:41 <Gizmokid2005> or did you disable changing that on your board?
17:34:46 <Gizmokid2005> because I'm fairly certain it can be done
17:34:47 <ZachThibeau> hmm I don't know
17:34:48 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: I cant deny that ;)
17:35:10 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I'll take a look at the acp
17:35:14 <Gizmokid2005> k
17:35:46 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: its set to 10 per page
17:35:51 <ZachThibeau> default value
17:36:01 <Gizmokid2005> there should be a way to allow users to change it
17:36:07 <excid3> hahaha im listening to a freestyle rapper who can do it in sign language...and some guy is translating it
17:36:09 <Gizmokid2005> based on a setting in their profile
17:36:29 <ZachThibeau> hmmm I think there maybe a mod for that
17:36:42 <ZachThibeau> I'll have to cruise around phpbb.com for that
17:36:46 <Gizmokid2005> no no
17:36:47 <Gizmokid2005> hang on
17:40:01 <Gizmokid2005> hmmm
17:40:06 <Gizmokid2005> I guess I'm just thinking of VB
17:40:10 <Gizmokid2005> ahh well
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17:40:53 <Buckbrush> How do I password protect my thumbdrive?
17:42:30 <Buckbrush> anybody?
17:43:46 <excid3> use truecrypt
17:44:02 <ZachThibeau> a possible way is throught truecrypt as suggested but that requires admin rights
17:44:38 <Buckbrush> Do you install it directly onto the drive itself?
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17:59:16 <JohnTHaller> hola
17:59:48 <excid3> hello
18:01:08 <JohnTHaller> Hi. I pop in and everybody's away...
18:01:25 <excid3> pretty much, not a whole lot going on today
18:01:37 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
18:01:43 <JohnTHaller> hi ZachThibeau
18:02:03 <ZachThibeau> whats new with you today?
18:03:55 <JohnTHaller> tired. too much work. so about the usual
18:04:59 <ZachThibeau> I know :( I got 5 more pages to work on my project in General Psychology :S
18:06:09 <JohnTHaller> Did have a fun weekend at least.
18:07:24 <ZachThibeau> nope crunch time on other duties :(
18:07:39 <ZachThibeau> after tomorrow I sleep
18:07:40 <excid3> JohnTHaller: at least you had a good weekend
18:07:54 <excid3> i did too, except the car almost broke down in downtown st louis...
18:08:02 <JohnTHaller> yeah. dressed up. couple parties with friends.
18:08:35 <ZachThibeau> nice
18:12:33 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller (delayed I know)
18:13:01 <JohnTHaller> hi Gizmokid2005
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18:23:53 <mib_l7nzc0> b
18:23:54 <mib_l7nzc0> b
18:24:04 <ZachThibeau> mib_l7nzc0: howdy welcome and how can we help you
18:24:21 <mib_l7nzc0> b
18:24:22 <mib_l7nzc0> b
18:24:41 <ZachThibeau> mib_l7nzc0: having keyboard issues?
18:25:26 <Gizmokid2005> ....are you serious?
18:25:33 <Gizmokid2005> I think this is the same one from yesterday
18:25:43 <ZachThibeau> I wasn't around for that
18:25:46 <Gizmokid2005> I was
18:25:47 <Gizmokid2005> h/o
18:25:56 <ZachThibeau> but still it's proper to check
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18:26:20 <Gizmokid2005> I know
18:26:22 <Gizmokid2005> that's what i"m working on
18:27:27 <mib_l7nzc0> b
18:27:28 <mib_l7nzc0> b
18:28:54 <Gizmokid2005> mib_l7nzc0, do you have any business here?
18:29:25 <mib_l7nzc0> ibnbebebdbhbeblbpb
18:29:32 <ZachThibeau> I guess not
18:30:05 <mib_l7nzc0> mbybkbebybbbobabrbdbwbobnbtbwbobrbkb
18:30:21 <Gizmokid2005> mib_l7nzc0, please refrain from spamming in the future
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18:30:47 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark??
18:30:54 <ZachThibeau> TimClark: we got a spammer :S
18:30:58 <TimClark> mib is typing
18:30:58 <mib_l7nzc0> ibabmbnbobtbsbpbabmbmbibnbgb
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18:31:14 <TimClark> ban time
18:31:21 <ZachThibeau> :P
18:31:31 <excid3> this happen often?
18:31:33 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: liking VisualIRC much :P
18:31:33 <Gizmokid2005> nope
18:31:38 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau, yup :D
18:31:47 <excid3> his sentences make sense...minus the b's
18:31:55 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: keep the op for a while
18:31:56 <ZachThibeau> I recognized that zok part :P
18:32:03 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark, I planned on it this time
18:32:49 <ZachThibeau> so tomorrow election day for the US I hear
18:33:01 <rab040ma> yup ... finally
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18:33:18 <excid3> yeah imgoing to be glad its over
18:33:20 <ZachThibeau> rab040ma: howdy I didn't see you there :P
18:33:34 <rab040ma> hi
18:33:39 <_TimClark> bbs guys, call if you need me
18:33:55 <ZachThibeau> kk
18:35:58 <Gizmokid2005> bah humbug...brb, gotta restart the app, this PC fails
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18:37:01 <ZachThibeau> howdy PatrickPatience
18:37:12 <PatrickPatience> HkiiI.
18:37:19 <PatrickPatience> *hi
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18:39:14 <TimClark> ok, guys here's what he said:
18:39:15 <TimClark> ineedhelp mykeyoardwontwork iamnotspamming
18:40:01 <TimClark> anybody know of a key board problem that insert b's between letters 2 days in a row, that would have anything to do with us ?
18:40:02 <excid3> yeah
18:40:08 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark, if so, there isn't much we can do. And I call BS on that. If his keyboard wasn't working the random single letter 'b' messages wouldn't have exsisted as they did
18:40:17 <excid3> he shouldnt be here if he has a problem like that
18:40:23 <excid3> he should be on another computer
18:40:28 <TimClark> i concur Gizmokid2005
18:40:30 <Gizmokid2005> exactly
18:40:34 <Gizmokid2005> next time I won't even hesistate
18:40:36 <Gizmokid2005> *hesitate
18:40:42 <Gizmokid2005> I've got a few thoughts on that
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18:41:47 <TimClark> sorry
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18:42:37 <ZachThibeau> lol
18:42:42 <ZachThibeau> np
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18:53:09 <ZachThibeau> later guys I got to roll
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18:59:58 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
19:02:11 <SteveLamerton> Wow, it is quiet here!
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19:06:05 <SteveLamerton> Hello ameo
19:06:16 <ameo> hey SteveLamerton
19:06:38 <excid3> hey SteveLamerton ameo
19:06:53 <SteveLamerton> Hello excid3
19:07:04 <excid3> wxwidgets for python is soooo outdated :(
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19:07:53 <SteveLamerton> excid3: Really? The last version I heard of was 2.8.8.1 which is very close to the c++ version
19:07:58 <SteveLamerton> Hello Gizmokid2005
19:08:11 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
19:08:24 <excid3> well its not outdated itself, i meant to say the documentation
19:09:05 <SteveLamerton> excid3: Ahh, cant help you there, I only use the c++ version
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19:09:21 <SteveLamerton> Hello PatrickPatience, JohnTHaller
19:09:42 <excid3> yeah, i just would much rather use python so im using wxPython
19:09:55 <excid3> python is much more RAD than c++ :P
19:10:25 <SteveLamerton> excid3: Depends what you are used to
19:10:49 <excid3> yeah true, im not exceedingly good at any
19:11:08 <excid3> alot of my knowledge is c++ but python is so much quicker
19:11:10 <excid3> no compiling :D
19:11:24 <excid3> and its builtin libs for doing almost anything i want is just awesome
19:11:56 <SteveLamerton> excid3: Yeah, I am currently having to look at boost for some stuff in c++
19:12:12 <ameo> guys, got time for offtopic issue?
19:12:19 <excid3> yep and tahts not what i wanted for Keryx, as few dependencies as possible
19:12:22 <excid3> sure ameo
19:12:34 <ameo> thanks
19:12:36 <ameo> http://www.drugs.com/pro/images/4c3bf7cf-a62f-4b92-c5b8-cbfc79cc97e9/xen-1261-1.jpg
19:12:47 <ameo> how can I create these on windows?
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19:12:58 <ameo> I searched google with no result
19:13:31 <excid3> http://www.umass.edu/microbio/rasmol/othersof.htm
19:14:32 <ameo> wow, what was your search keywords?
19:14:50 <excid3> molecule maker software or something :P
19:15:17 <ameo> anyway, thanks.. that was what I'm looking for
19:15:20 <ameo> :)
19:15:28 <excid3> awesome, no prob
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19:23:45 <SteveLamerton> Hello PatrickPatience
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19:30:12 <Gizmokid2005> hello PatrickPatience
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19:32:02 <Zach_Hudock> looks like Circuit City is just about dead
19:32:14 <SteveLamerton> Hello Zach_Hudock, yeah it does
19:32:57 <Zach_Hudock> closing 155 stores between today and December, Sony told ALL of their delivery trucks to turn around one day last week, and CC got removed from the NYSE cause their stocks are selling too low
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19:33:56 <Zach_Hudock> not a good situation
19:35:14 <SteveLamerton> Indeed not
19:35:45 <Zach_Hudock> in other news....Windows 7 looks pretty sweet
19:36:03 <Zach_Hudock> Steve Ballmer said in an interview that it will be "Vista without the suck..."
19:36:16 <excid3> i think it looks nice
19:36:21 <SteveLamerton> Yes, I am very impressed so far, hopefully they will manage a consistant gui this time around
19:36:27 <Zach_Hudock> right
19:36:38 <Zach_Hudock> the new taskbar looks pretty cool
19:36:59 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, the peek feature looks handy too
19:37:03 <Zach_Hudock> yup
19:37:07 <PatrickPatience> The Source going down as well? Sounds like a dumb question, but maybe they were bought out?
19:37:25 <Zach_Hudock> PatrickPatience....huh?
19:38:35 <PatrickPatience> You guys don't have The Source in the US?
19:38:41 <excid3> nope
19:38:54 <PatrickPatience> Hmm.
19:39:11 <PatrickPatience> Came about a couple years ago (or at least started buying up all the RadioShacks).
19:39:23 <Zach_Hudock> we still have RadioShack here
19:39:59 <PatrickPatience> MakeUseOf.com is still down.
19:40:05 <Zach_Hudock> in the US, TheSource is a monthly magazine about rap/hip hop music
19:40:06 <PatrickPatience> Somebody hijacked there domain last night.
19:40:19 <Zach_Hudock> i saw it was down last nite.....that sux
19:41:32 <PatrickPatience> Mhm.
19:41:36 <PatrickPatience> Gotta go. TTYL.
19:41:39 <Zach_Hudock> ttyl
19:41:43 <SteveLamerton> Bye
19:41:44 <PatrickPatience> They're on blogger for the time being.
19:41:49 <SteveLamerton> Ouch
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19:42:11 <SteveLamerton> And then there were 15
19:42:17 <Zach_Hudock> lol
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20:02:53 <Bensawsome> hey Gizmokid2005 why u opped?
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20:03:59 <kispat1994> hi does anyone here know how to uninstall PortableApps?
20:04:51 <Gizmokid2005> kispat1994, just delete the folders
20:05:09 <Gizmokid2005> of the apps you want to uninstall
20:05:28 <Bensawsome> kispat1994: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#uninstalling
20:05:47 <Bensawsome> o wait kispat1994 wrong link
20:05:53 <Bensawsome> kispat1994 http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#removingapps
20:05:57 <Bensawsome> thats the right link :D
20:06:14 <Gizmokid2005> kispat1994, both links that Bensawsome showed you are relevant
20:06:15 <kispat1994> k thanks everyone lol
20:06:19 <kispat1994> :-)
20:06:23 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome
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20:06:25 <Gizmokid2005> sorry about the delay
20:06:37 <Gizmokid2005> most of us are busy with other things, so it may time some time to reply
20:06:56 <kispat1994> lol its okay as long as u helped
20:07:03 <Gizmokid2005> glad we could
20:07:08 <Gizmokid2005> anything else we can do for you?
20:07:53 <kispat1994> actually....will deleting the files remove it completely from my hard disk or will there be some kind of side effect?
20:08:21 <kispat1994> flash disk* sorry
20:08:30 <Gizmokid2005> kispat1994, side effect as in?
20:10:09 <kispat1994> some files remaining on my flash disk...because i want to remove the WHOLE PortableApp startup and files and other stuff that came with it....
20:10:58 <Gizmokid2005> did you have anything else on your flashdrive?
20:11:38 <kispat1994> nope
20:11:44 <kispat1994> just those PortableApp files
20:11:52 <Gizmokid2005> the only files/folders that the suite adds, are the Documents folder, the PortableApps folder, autorun.ini, and StartPortableApps.exe
20:11:55 <Gizmokid2005> if that's the case
20:11:57 <kispat1994> which dont have any of my personal or private files
20:12:00 <Gizmokid2005> you can just cformat the drive
20:12:03 <Gizmokid2005> *format
20:12:06 <Gizmokid2005> and it will remove everything also.
20:12:17 <kispat1994> oh ya lol i forgot i feel so dumb
20:13:07 <kispat1994> thanks gizmo kid
20:13:14 <kispat1994> iam off now bye
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20:17:19 <boykid1994> hello
20:18:05 <boykid1994> does anyone here know how to install a game on to PortableApps so that you can run it as a game file as if it was on the computer? (hehe i need to be sneaky)
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20:19:08 <Gizmokid2005> boykid1994, please elaborate a little more
20:19:57 <Suiseiseki> do you mean a non-portableapp
20:21:33 <boykid1994> ya
20:22:18 <boykid1994> like when you install a game on your computer and play it...i would like it to be like i install it on my flash drive and run it from my flash drive (so i dont use my computers space)
20:23:03 <Gizmokid2005> boykid1994, you can't just make a game portable by installing it on the drive
20:23:17 <Gizmokid2005> there are registry entries and other associations and files that are required on the pc
20:23:24 <boykid1994> so there is no way i can?
20:23:31 <Suiseiseki> you can still run it
20:23:45 <boykid1994> how? i need to know...
20:23:55 <Suiseiseki> I know what you mean about sneaky
20:23:56 <Gizmokid2005> plus, the transfer rate between the flash drive and the PC is not going to be really slow, so your loading times and whatnot will be much longer
20:24:05 <Suiseiseki> like from school or a work place
20:24:32 <boykid1994> please explain suiseiseki
20:24:57 <Suiseiseki> I mean why do you want to be sneaky :P
20:25:27 <Suiseiseki> and what gane are you trying to hide
20:26:31 <boykid1994> well....the thing is i kinda crushed my computer when i was small(er) so i was banned to play games on the computer but iam smarter now but my parents dont understand so i need a way to play games on the PC such as SImCity 4 (i love business games)
20:26:48 <Suiseiseki> oh
20:27:13 <boykid1994> ya so can u help me?
20:27:23 <Suiseiseki> why not just install the game like normal
20:27:30 <Suiseiseki> in you flash drive
20:27:41 <Suiseiseki> but either way you can't hide the files
20:27:51 <Suiseiseki> *all
20:27:55 <boykid1994> ya i tried that but something went wrong
20:28:01 <boykid1994> what do u mean?
20:28:01 <Suiseiseki> those games tend to be huge
20:28:31 <Suiseiseki> the save files tend to end up on the Documents and settings folders
20:28:44 <Suiseiseki> and some files are installed on the windows folder
20:29:08 <boykid1994> lol ya i figured but i found a game thats only 300 mb and liked it so i wanted to play it secretly on my PC
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20:32:23 <Gizmokid2005> hello pa_3619, is there something we can help you with?
20:33:04 <boykid1994> not not amore thanks suiseiskei bye
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20:39:22 <pa_3619> hi, my problem: i downloaded and installed thunderbird as described and imported old emails (3-4k) from outlook. I installed and managed to use sunbird and firefox portable before and had no problems. I had no problems using thunderbird at my home pcs at all (3x Windows XP). But when I try to open thunderbird on work I are not able to start it. No problems with sunbird / firefox portable on work. when i try to open t
20:39:58 <DaveDixonII> Are you sure it is not blocked?
20:40:04 <Gizmokid2005> and do you get any errors?
20:40:14 <pa_3619> a, and i tried to download and install a fresh thunderbird in another folder again, same problem.
20:40:22 <pa_3619> no, no errors. you mean blocked by firewall?
20:40:48 <DaveDixonII> Can you run any other programs?
20:40:56 <pa_3619> i dont know exactly which firewall tools are running at work...
20:41:14 <pa_3619> yes at work I can run all other programs without problems
20:41:34 <pa_3619> including sunbird and firefox portable from the same usb stick
20:41:47 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3619, do you even get the splash for it?
20:42:10 <pa_3619> ah yes the splash is shown shortly, but then it disappears and nothing more happens
20:42:10 <DaveDixonII> Freenode will go down soon for temps
20:42:11 <DaveDixonII> !!!
20:42:17 <DaveDixonII> Just noting. ;)
20:42:26 <pa_3619> dont know freenode`?
20:42:31 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3619, can you see if thunderbirdportable.exe is still running?
20:42:41 <DaveDixonII> [Global Notice] Hi all, In about five (5) minutes two of our client servers will be going down for maintenance, the downtime window is set to one hour, but in reality it should be significantly less. Affected users ~1200. Thank you for using freenode and have a great day!
20:43:05 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII, you really didn't need to repeat it...
20:43:14 <pa_3619> yes its shown as process...
20:43:58 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3619, but a fresh install doesn't even work, correct?
20:44:03 <pa_3619> i think if this is a firewall problem, someone else would have reported it previously
20:44:29 <pa_3619> correct, all the same, nothing happened. the same fresh install opened without errors at my home pc.
20:45:04 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3619, chances are the actual application is blocked. I would check with your IT department and see if they block it
20:45:23 <Gizmokid2005> another thing you might want to try if it's possible, is install thunderbird locally and see if it launches
20:46:13 <pa_3619> the thing is i just changed my work from one city to another, the problem persists (another IT department)...
20:46:31 <pa_3619> i dont have the rights to install software locally
20:46:34 <Gizmokid2005> same company though right?
20:46:51 <pa_3619> no two independent university network pcs.
20:46:59 <Gizmokid2005> right, but the same university?
20:47:08 <pa_3619> no
20:47:37 <pa_3619> absolutely independent systems, to citys, to universities
20:48:00 <Gizmokid2005> I would check wtih them though. If a fresh install of t-bird doesn't launch, then there has to be something blocking the app
20:48:09 <Gizmokid2005> is it an XP machine?
20:48:12 <pa_3619> i think the idea is to be able to use portable apps on (almost) every pc... so its disappointing
20:48:32 <pa_3619> i tried it on several XP machines and a win2k system
20:48:34 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3619, that is the idea, but there are ways for IT departments to not allow certain software from running....and we can't circumvent that
20:48:43 <Gizmokid2005> those policies are in place for a reason.
20:49:00 <Gizmokid2005> the actual idea, though, is to be able to use these apps without leaving a trace.
20:49:05 <pa_3619> so what could block thunderbird and not firefox / sunbird?
20:49:40 <Gizmokid2005> thunderbird is a mail app, they probably don't want you using some third party apps for mail, other than their own systems. A web browser, FF, is very standard, as would be a calendaring app such as sunbird
20:50:13 <pa_3619> of couse I can check with the IT department, but I think they are not really interested in solving such a special problem for a student
20:50:29 <pa_3619> ok
20:50:45 <Gizmokid2005> they might have a list of disallowed apps, and that might be on it.
20:52:29 <pa_3619> hmm, but i think it would have been reported somehow when 2 big german universities block thunderbird portable, dont you think? there is no log or other possibility to find out more about the problem, isnt it?
20:52:50 <Gizmokid2005> not really
20:53:04 <Gizmokid2005> and you never know. Some universities are pretty heavy handed about those things.
20:53:13 <Gizmokid2005> it's confirmed that the app and your install of it actually works
20:54:08 <pa_3619> ok, thanks for the help so far, i will try to check out with the it department... thanks
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20:59:37 <Gizmokid2005> hello pa_9402, is there something we can help you with today?
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21:07:03 <Simeon> Hi all
21:09:01 <DaveDixonII> Hola.
21:16:23 <Simeon> pretty dead here...
21:16:30 <Gizmokid2005> hello Simeon
21:16:33 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, it was busy for a minute
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21:17:04 <Simeon> seems like John dove off for a couple of days...
21:17:17 <Simeon> Hi pa_6597
21:17:20 <Gizmokid2005> he was on earlier
21:17:27 <Gizmokid2005> hello pa_6597, is there something we can do for you?
21:17:49 <Simeon> darn - so I missed him!
21:17:54 <Gizmokid2005> Simeon yup
21:18:15 <pa_6597> we just discussed my problem before half an hour ago.
21:18:23 <Gizmokid2005> which problem?
21:18:44 <pa_6597> 2 universities, freeze at startup ....
21:18:46 <Gizmokid2005> ok
21:19:24 <pa_6597> i just tried my stick at another pc and on startup, after shortly viewing the splash screen (thunderbird), i got an error message from windows
21:19:32 <Gizmokid2005> which was?
21:19:33 <pa_6597> i try to translate
21:19:37 <Gizmokid2005> ok
21:19:40 <pa_6597> thunderbird.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close
21:20:00 <Gizmokid2005> it's a generic crash message...nothing really useful...
21:20:30 <Simeon> did you try reinstalling it?
21:20:46 <DaveDixonII> pa_6597, what os is it?
21:20:56 <pa_6597> yes, i reinstalled it over it and a clean install in another folder
21:21:04 <pa_6597> all win xp
21:21:11 <DaveDixonII> Hmm.
21:21:20 <pa_6597> problem signature EventType : InPageError P1 : c000009c P2 : 00000002
21:22:39 <Simeon> i guess that tells me as much as it tells you - nothing :)
21:22:40 <pa_6597> i just had the idea that maybe on the pcs thunderb. doesnt work there is something missing as a driver or .net or something. on my xp pc it works, on some pcs it freezes at startup, no i get this windows error repeatedly
21:23:02 <Simeon> $thunderbird doesnt need .NET
21:23:26 <DaveDixonII> So that eliminates that theory
21:23:27 <pa_6597> yes it was just an example...
21:24:02 <Simeon> could it be that there is some kind of limitation (anti virus etc.) that only allows specific exes?
21:24:37 <pa_6597> on the pc it works and on the pc i now got the error msg both avire free-av is running, nothing else
21:24:46 <pa_6597> no win firewall
21:25:03 <Simeon> sometimes Pcs are so locked down that only a couple specified programms are allowed.
21:25:59 <pa_6597> actually i have admin rights and every other program tested works
21:26:38 <Simeon> ok. that eliminates another theory.
21:26:50 <rab040ma> pa_6597: is there anything in the event log that may relate to this error?
21:27:07 <pa_6597> where can i find the event log
21:27:44 <rab040ma> In English it is "right click on My Computer and choose Manage"
21:28:22 <rab040ma> There should also be an event viewer in the Administrative folder of the control panel
21:29:07 <pa_6597> ok i have some messages under system there
21:29:30 <pa_6597> time fits
21:29:40 <pa_6597> i try to translate
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21:30:18 <pa_6597> type: error, source: disk, category: none; event: 7
21:30:57 <rab040ma> I would run chkdsk /f against the drive
21:31:14 <pa_6597> ah and there is something at applications
21:31:48 <rab040ma> it might be the computer's c: drive as well as the portable drive, not sure
21:31:53 <pa_6597> type error, source application error, category (100), event 1000
21:32:13 <pa_6597> what does /f mean?
21:32:14 <rab040ma> is that before or after the disk error?
21:32:21 <pa_6597> mom
21:32:38 <pa_6597> 7 secs after the disk error
21:32:38 <Simeon> whats your native language?
21:32:42 <rab040ma> the /f means "fix" in English
21:32:52 <Simeon> german?
21:32:56 <pa_6597> ja
21:33:06 <Simeon> dacht ich mir.
21:33:12 <rab040ma> take it away Simeon, my German is terrible ;-)
21:33:43 <pa_6597> warum?
21:33:52 <Simeon> einfach so
21:34:21 <pa_6597> ok. hast du noch ne idee?
21:34:29
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21:34:57 <Simeon> sometimes its better/easier to say someting in ones native tongue.
21:35:05 <Simeon> nee. leider nicht
21:35:34 <Simeon> Do you have thunderbird on you usb drive?
21:35:46 <pa_6597> yes
21:37:51 <pa_6597> windows hat probleme im dateisystem behoben
21:38:05 <rab040ma> Simeon: I found some info on that Event type at http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Computer-Freezes-t127962.html
21:38:45 <Simeon> did you checkdisk c: or the usb drive?
21:38:50 <rab040ma> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884070
21:39:48 <pa_6597> i chkdskd the usb drive
21:39:57 <Simeon> does it work now?
21:40:00 <pa_6597> problem persists
21:40:11
21:40:51 <Simeon> accordinf to the 2 pages/links, it looks like your drive is fried and need to be replaced :(
21:42:48 <pa_6597> hmm. can i just copy the thunderbird folder to another usb stick? btw the first try would be to install a fresh thunderbird on another usb stick and try to start it on a pc it didnt work before?
21:43:14 <rab040ma> pa_6597: sounds like a plan to me
21:43:41 <pa_6597> ok i will try :) thanks so far
21:43:43 <rab040ma> it may be the USB connection is flakey on some PCs, which is why the error only shows up on some PCs
21:44:29 <Simeon> yes. good plan
21:44:39 <Simeon> and try another usb drive in another slot.
21:44:49 <Simeon> and then in the same slot.
21:45:05 <Gizmokid2005> I'm off guys, good luck Simeon, rab040ma, pa_6597
21:45:10 <Simeon> bye
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21:45:26 <pa_6597> ok. i will try. bye
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21:47:14 <DaveDixonII> Was war das Problem? (did i get that right?)
21:49:18 <Simeon> yep you did. Thunderbird closed with an error
21:50:01 <DaveDixonII> Ahh..
21:52:23 <DaveDixonII> Sounds so close to english.
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21:54:10 <Simeon> gotta go and get some sleep. I hope pa_6597 you'll figure it out.
21:54:33 <OliverK> ?
21:54:51 <Simeon> hi Oliver :)
21:55:02 <OliverK> hey Simeon
21:55:10 <OliverK> insight just crashed :(
21:55:17 <Simeon> he's having trouble with thunderbird and its probably his drive.
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21:56:04 <OliverK> Bien
21:56:27 <OliverK> ah, I think that means good
21:56:49
21:57:16 <OliverK> Donde es el bano
21:57:27 <OliverK> I'm a little rusty, but hopefully the pipes aren't
21:58:43 <DaveDixonII> What do you mean where is the bathroom? :P
21:59:44
22:00:33 <OliverK> si
22:00:35 <DaveDixonII> Al lado de la cocina :/
22:00:51 <OliverK> uh, I'm not that good
22:01:02 <OliverK> I remember how to ask where the bathroom is, that's about it
22:01:25 <DaveDixonII> Al (To the) lado (side) de (of) la (the) cocina (kitchen)
22:01:29 <DaveDixonII> :)
22:02:13 <OliverK> ah
22:02:15
22:02:21 <OliverK> mines south side of my kitchen
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22:19:49 <OliverK> hey what happened earlier that gizmo had to op? I searched the logs but couldn't find anyhthing
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22:26:25 <JohnTHaller> hi all
22:27:18 <OliverK> hey John!
22:27:37 <OliverK> I had a very important question to ask you, but I totally forgot
22:27:39 <Bensawsome> hello :)
22:27:50 <OliverK> I think it had something to do with ATPad though
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22:28:46 <JohnTHaller> what's an atpad
22:29:20 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/node/15471
22:29:31 <OliverK> ATPad is another app developed by the one and only lamer
22:29:49 <OliverK> Its a full featured notepad replacement that has tabs and many other things
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22:31:02 <OliverK> oh, PNotes Revision 1- what's the system for that
22:31:08 <OliverK> that was my real question :D
22:32:02 <OliverK> what's the system for releasing a revision, as I've got a language switching sytem in place. Its demonstrated in ATPad Portable
22:33:22 <OliverK> JohnTHaller?
22:34:26 <JohnTHaller> it basically looks like the same set as Notepad++
22:34:50 <JohnTHaller> We call the first fix Revision 2.
22:34:57 <OliverK> okay
22:35:27 <OliverK> so I would make a post in the forums on it, right?
22:35:40 <JohnTHaller> Yeah
22:35:45 <JohnTHaller> Same as any other relase
22:36:43 <OliverK> alright, thanks- that should be the end of the week then, just so I can triple check and make sure I don't seriously fail on that one as well
22:37:06 <JohnTHaller> heh
22:37:21 <JohnTHaller> Is there anything that woluld justify ATPad alongside Notepad++?
22:37:38 <OliverK> yeah, at pad is about the same as NotePad++, just without the syntax highlighting. I might not scare off normal users like notepad++ might
22:37:51 <OliverK> i opens up a little faster, and I think its smaller
22:38:11 <JohnTHaller> normal users?
22:38:21 <excid3> no one is normal :P
22:38:30 <JohnTHaller> normal users don't use text editors... they use a word processor
22:38:35 <OliverK> true
22:38:54 <OliverK> well, its 630kb as opposed to 5 mb
22:39:38 <OliverK> so it'd be nice for someone looking for a smallish text editor on a tiny drive ( I say a 64 mb the other day :D)
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22:42:35 <OliverK> its nice to have around, I'd rather set cafe (or expresso) to open my txt files throught ATPad rather then Notepad++ as NotePAd++ usually has about fifty things to open
22:42:38 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... well, continue work on it and we'll see if people like it
22:43:14 <JohnTHaller> it'll be easier once the app directory supports popularity as a listing option, but that's a little way off so I don't want to duplicate too much yet
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22:44:03 <OliverK> que es?
22:44:13 <OliverK> alright, I'll keep working on it :D
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22:58:03 <rbrt13> hello
22:58:25 <OliverK|Chowing> hey rbrt13
23:03:40 <OliverK|Chowing> anybody want a extra brownie and some corn?
23:03:54 <rbrt13> maybe
23:03:55 <excid3> man im hungry
23:03:55 <Bensawsome> me :D
23:03:59 <Bensawsome> brownie plz
23:04:11 * OliverK|Chowing hurls food threw IRC connection :D
23:04:14 <excid3> stuff the corn in the brownie but dont tell him
23:04:42 <rbrt13> that is the reason for IRC flood
23:04:53 <rbrt13> people keep puting food through it
23:05:14 * OliverK|Chowing gives banquet pepperoni pizza meal two thumbs ups
23:05:27 <OliverK|Chowing> nah, that's why the tubes are blocked
23:05:28 <rbrt13> im hungry
23:05:29 <rbrt13> bbl
23:05:39 <OliverK|Chowing> the flood is from the spare can of dr.pepper I got
23:05:44 <OliverK|Chowing> rbrt13: enjoy
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23:17:26 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller!
23:17:29 <OliverK|Chowing> hey chris
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23:17:35 <ChrisMorgan> Hey OliverK
23:17:56 <OliverK> i'm glad another op is here :D I has welding to go to soon
23:18:30 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: Have you seen my Inkscape Portable http://portableapps.com/node/16491 ? What do you think of it, tried it at all?
23:18:53 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: not that we need another op in, really... I haven't ever had much trouble, really
23:19:06 <ChrisMorgan> I can't even think of one time when it would have /quite/ got to kicking
23:19:11 <OliverK> me neither, but they are GOOD to have around
23:19:16 <OliverK> I can :D
23:19:18 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah.
23:19:26 <ChrisMorgan> I'm conservative :P
23:19:40 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I'm back
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23:19:50 <JohnTHaller> Sorry
23:19:52 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: also, could I please be added to the developers group, as I am one, mainly so that I can update development/test ?
23:20:01 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Nope, I haven't seen your InkScape yet
23:20:18 <JohnTHaller> I mean tested.
23:20:25 <JohnTHaller> DLing now
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23:20:32 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Do you have an app released yet?
23:20:33 <rbrt14> hello
23:20:36 <JohnTHaller> hi rmccue
23:20:37 <rbrt14> grr
23:20:41 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: BPBible
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23:20:53 <JohnTHaller> You should already be a dev
23:20:54 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah
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23:21:15 <ChrisMorgan> I'd be about to upload DT2, with the i18n share stuff put in the right place (I missed it) but I think I'll wait till I can nab Dad's computer and compile it in ~2 minutes rather than ~2 hours :/
23:21:17 <JohnTHaller> Huh, you're not. Weird.
23:21:30 <JohnTHaller> Well you're a dev now
23:21:43 <ChrisMorgan> Thaks :-)
23:21:44 <ChrisMorgan> *Thanks
23:22:08 <ChrisMorgan> (Minor thing: I'm still not in the list at http://portableapps.com/about )
23:22:23 <JohnTHaller> I just did that, too
23:22:28 <ChrisMorgan> thanks!
23:22:28 <JohnTHaller> It was updating
23:22:37 <ChrisMorgan> ah
23:22:39 <JohnTHaller> I usually do bothy at the same time. Somehow missed it with you. Sorry, man
23:23:17 <OliverK> hey ryan :D
23:23:25 <ChrisMorgan> What do you think, should I remove the old Inkscape from the d/t list, the 0.45 one by John Bentley and MarkMLM? It's also done in AutoIt, and not properly; mine is complete.
23:23:46 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: Composing memo in ATPAd right now, as I don't want to load sunbird or open office or notepad++
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23:25:10 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: I think it'd be ok. Especially since they don't have the time (and we prefer not to use AutoIT). Leave it for now til we talk to them
23:25:36 <ChrisMorgan> Mark it as obsolete?
23:26:04 <ChrisMorgan> I'd especially like your opinion (and rmccue's, and probably any other well established developers) on how I do the AppData handling.
23:26:27 <JohnTHaller> Leave it for now
23:26:39 <JohnTHaller> AppData handling? Inkscape doesn't have a param to redirect?
23:26:49 <ChrisMorgan> Should I put mine in just above/below it?
23:26:55 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: it seems not.
23:27:01 <ChrisMorgan> I couldn't find any.
23:27:47 <OliverK> at least yours redirect :(
23:28:36 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah - nothing should go onto the system drive at all.
23:28:56 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: How were John and Marko handling it/
23:29:26 <ChrisMorgan> Backup-Rename, Move, Use, Move, Rename-Backup
23:30:40 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. That may be the best option. Redirecting USERPROFILE would probably work but have unintended side effects. Did you try setting a HOME env var and see if that works? It sometimes does with Linux-originating apps.
23:31:27 <ChrisMorgan> I didn't try it, but my research indicates that it does just change the method for Windows machines.
23:31:39 <JohnTHaller> huh?
23:31:53 <ChrisMorgan> Linux it should use HOME. Windows it doesn't.
23:32:21 <JohnTHaller> Did you either try it or analyze the source?
23:32:25 <ChrisMorgan> The only side-effect I've found is that it stores gtk-2.0 in the correct place as well, thus also removing the need for the messy code in the GIMP launcher
23:32:28 <ChrisMorgan> Try it mainly.
23:32:38 <JohnTHaller> Ok. That's what I was asking.
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23:32:53 <JohnTHaller> You just said you didn't try it
23:32:58 <JacobMastel> Hi all
23:33:10 <JohnTHaller> hi JacobMastel
23:33:17 <JacobMastel> How's it going JohnTHaller?
23:33:24 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: side effect with moving the USERPROFILE/APPDATA stuff.
23:33:41 <ChrisMorgan> I'll try Google Code Search...
23:33:57 <JohnTHaller> The only question I asked was whether you tried HOME
23:34:02 * OliverK is signing of for the night. GoodNight, and God Bless
23:34:15 <ChrisMorgan> Goodnight OliverK :-)
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23:34:56 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Try setting the HOME env var to the settings directory. It sometimes works with Linux-originating apps.
23:36:16 <ChrisMorgan> Actually, I can say that it doesn't do it - most times I've run it it's been on this machine, where HOME is set to C:\
23:36:29 <ChrisMorgan> Correction: c:\ (lowercase c :P)
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23:37:06 <ChrisMorgan> Hey ZachThibeau
23:37:19 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
23:37:31 <ZachThibeau> Just taking a small break from my Gen Psych Paper :S
23:38:05 <ZachThibeau> it's ironic I'm doing sleep deprivation as my topic and I'm losing sleep over it XD
23:38:22 <KevinPorter> Lol.
23:38:39 <ZachThibeau> and it's due tomorrow
23:38:42 <ZachThibeau> 10 pages
23:38:46 <Bensawsome> O_O
23:39:00 <ZachThibeau> 4 net sources and 4 book sources O_o
23:39:19 <ZachThibeau> I got them all it's more or less getting them down on paper :P
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23:39:37 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau i had a project due that was about 100 pages :S
23:39:45 <ZachThibeau> ouch
23:39:51 <Bensawsome> 2morow XD but luckily i got done :D
23:40:12 <JacobMastel-Away> Hey JohnTHaller is Control+a tied to PAM in any way?
23:40:15 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: so, what do you think of Inkscape Portable? Change the AppData method?
23:42:22 <JohnTHaller> I'm not really happy about replacing valid stuff in APPDATA. The only thing it'd hurt with USERPROFILE is saving/loading desktop since InkScape doesn't launch other apps.
23:43:05 <ChrisMorgan> Yes, I forgot that - the favourites bar thing then shows "settings" as the home location - not very good
23:43:23 <ChrisMorgan> But other than that, I think it's lots better
23:43:51 <ChrisMorgan> Another thing with my launcher over the old one is that it updates drive letters in the config file.
23:45:35 <JohnTHaller> Ok guys... gotta run for a bit
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23:48:58 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue/PatrickPatience: could you please delete all the comments in http://portableapps.com/development/test ? I've done them all, but can't delete them
23:50:49 <ChrisMorgan> How would people take John's second last comment - "I'm not really happy about replacing valid stuff in APPDATA"? I think I'd take it as, redirect it, don't let it mess stuff up locally, meaning I'm doing it right
23:52:20 <ChrisMorgan> He he... I'm trying to use Inkscape as my IRC client :P
23:52:29 <Bensawsome> ... nice ChrisMorgan nice....
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23:56:40 <ChrisMorgan> Fail :-( it keeps on saying it can't write to the port :-(
23:56:56 <Bensawsome> -_-
23:57:26 <ChrisMorgan> ... and someone on #inkscape said that if I got it working, could I show how... never seen it working... very buggy... security issues... :/...