IRC Log from 2009-01-07
00:00:06 <Roamer> lulz!
00:00:32 <gluxon> Alright, Now I'm going to try from XChat
00:00:36 <Bensawsome> gluxon dont try and send files over irc it almost NEVER work
00:00:43 <Bensawsome> gluxon NO I DONT EXCEPT THEMN OVER IRC XD
00:00:51 <Bensawsome> it doesnt work for one thing
00:01:00 <gluxon> Then I'll email it..
00:01:09 <gluxon> PortableApps at Gmail.com right?
00:01:16 <Bensawsome> and another thing i have it disabled because people on other networks kept freaking dcc spamming me :S
00:01:21 <Bensawsome> gluxon: ya
00:01:34 <gluxon> ?
00:01:43 <Bensawsome> im actually going to create a portableapps@bensawsome.com one soon :S
00:01:50 <gluxon> Oka PortableApps not PortableApps.com (at) gmail.com? Correct?
00:01:52 <Bensawsome> dcc=irc file sending
00:01:55 <Bensawsome> NO
00:02:02 <Bensawsome> portableapps.com@gmail.com
00:02:03 <Bensawsome> :P:
00:02:08 <Bensawsome> lol sry didnt mean to yell gluxon :S
00:02:17 <Bensawsome> stupid caps lock =_=
00:02:19 <gluxon> Okay Thanks.
00:02:30 <gluxon> Bensawsome: I appriciate this... a LOT!
00:02:35 <Bensawsome> np ^_^
00:03:30 <gluxon> I have to do this for Homework.... can you believe it? My camera shoots AFS instead of AVI :(
00:03:43 <Bensawsome> o_0
00:03:48 <Bensawsome> thats... retarted...
00:04:01 <Bensawsome> now just need to make sure mediacoder can do afs....
00:04:16 <excid3> im pretty sure media coder can do it
00:04:22 <Bensawsome> sent yet gluxon?
00:04:31 <gluxon> Yep.
00:04:34 <Bensawsome> kk
00:04:43 <Bensawsome> oh ya i have to pull it from that email address ><
00:05:42 <Roamer> lol, i had that prob for a video project. my cam said it was avi but it was a proprietary format named .avi... needed special codecs for it... rggg... >:(
00:06:07 <Bensawsome> grr it not working -_-
00:06:11 <gluxon> ???
00:06:18 <Bensawsome> gluxon im gonna pm you my private email send it to that one -_-
00:06:28 <gluxon> You mean it wasn't sent?
00:06:40 <Bensawsome> gluxon no im sure it was but its not copperating
00:06:53 <gluxon> Anothe Gmail bug?
00:06:56 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps
00:06:58 <Bensawsome> not sure :S
00:07:00 <Bensawsome> hey KevinPorter :)
00:07:05 <gluxon> Hello KevinPorter.
00:07:12 <Bensawsome> OH!
00:07:15 <Bensawsome> got it gluxon :D
00:07:16 <KevinPorter> Evenin' Bensawsome, gluxon. :)
00:07:23 <gluxon> Bensawsome: Thanks.
00:07:25 <excid3> KevinPorter: we were just alking about how you need to finish Media Coder portable
00:07:30 <excid3> *talking
00:07:39 <KevinPorter> I can't legally, unfortunately.
00:07:50 <gluxon> ???
00:07:55 <excid3> :(
00:07:55 <gluxon> Can't legally?
00:08:04 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter RLY?! T_T
00:08:05 <Bensawsome> why?
00:08:45 <KevinPorter> MediaCoder by default comes with proprietary codecs that are illegal to distribute.
00:08:49 <Bensawsome> gluxon: what format and quality you want it in?
00:08:54 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter DANG :'(
00:09:02 <gluxon> AVI
00:09:07 <Bensawsome> kk gluxon
00:09:13 <gluxon> Normal quality is okay :P
00:09:29 <KevinPorter> But it should work with the latest versions.
00:09:41 <KevinPorter> Just download the .7z package from the MediaCoder website and it should work just fine.
00:10:13 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter sweet :)
00:10:30 <excid3> KevinPorter: ah yeah thats understandable, what about removing them for release?
00:10:30 <Bensawsome> hey KevinPorter you use mediacoder alot?
00:10:49 <KevinPorter> I used to use it more Bensawsome, but not as much as I used to.
00:10:58 <Bensawsome> what the name it uses for avi?
00:11:29 <KevinPorter> excid3: I could. I was thinking about doing that, but John said to wait a while. I might just go ahead and remove the codecs.
00:11:33 <Bensawsome> xvid?
00:11:36 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: Hmm.
00:11:51 <Bensawsome> hmm indeed :S
00:12:34 <excid3> what was the reasoning for wainting? i dont think anything will change that would allow you to release it in its entirety
00:13:00 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: Is there some reason you have to use AVI? H.264 is the *best* video codec right now.
00:13:20 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter: gluxon wants it :S
00:13:24 <Bensawsome> im converting it for him >_>
00:13:27 <Bensawsome> gluxon: ping
00:13:30 <gluxon> I need avi.
00:13:35 <gluxon> Well the format.
00:13:40 <Bensawsome> lol
00:13:42 <KevinPorter> gluxon: You can't use WMA or H.264?
00:13:47 <Bensawsome> gluxon what you useing to play it?
00:13:59 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: A better question. ;)
00:14:03 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps
00:14:04 <Bensawsome> yep ^_^
00:14:07 <Bensawsome> hey rmccue :)
00:14:12 <gluxon> Hm... an MPEG file would work too.
00:14:16 <KevinPorter> Morning rmccue. ;)
00:14:22 <KevinPorter> For like 20 more minutes, right?
00:14:22 <Bensawsome> gluxon what are you using to play it! XD
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00:14:42 <gluxon> Bensawsome: I need a video in PowerPoint.
00:14:47 <Bensawsome> hmmmmm
00:14:53 * Bensawsome opens poerwpoint....
00:15:05 <rmccue> KevinPorter: Correct.
00:15:13 <gluxon> You can insert an ASF file but the sound isn't played.
00:15:17 * KevinPorter gets Aussie time now. :P
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00:15:31 <Bensawsome> gluxon.... powerpoint can use asf....
00:15:34 <Bensawsome> oh gluxon ok XD
00:15:35 <JacobMastel> Hi all
00:15:45 <gluxon> The 2003 edition.
00:15:47 <gluxon> Can't.
00:15:56 * purple cheers
00:16:07 <Bensawsome> mpeg is prbly better >_>
00:16:09 <KevinPorter> gluxon: Can PowerPoint 2003 use .mpg files or anything like that?
00:16:24 * KevinPorter has 2007.
00:16:30 <Bensawsome> EVIl
00:16:30 <gluxon> <gluxon> Hm... an MPEG file would work too.
00:16:42 <Bensawsome> and also do i want mpeg1,2,or 3
00:16:44 <Bensawsome> err 4
00:17:03 <gluxon> ?
00:17:14 <gluxon> I need the video format...
00:17:16 * Roamer thinks KevinPorter has joined the Jedis... He takes KevinPorter's cookie away from him.
00:17:26 * Bensawsome eats Roamer =_=
00:17:29 <gluxon> Bensawsome: what do you mean by 1 2 3 and 4?
00:17:35 <Roamer> Ak!
00:17:36 <Bensawsome> lol nvrmnd gluxon :P
00:17:36 <KevinPorter> Roamer: You want to give me my cookie.
00:17:43 <JacobMastel> mp4 vs mp3.....
00:17:45 <Bensawsome> me will backup KevinPorter =_=
00:17:47 <JacobMastel> ?
00:17:56 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: Do H.264.
00:18:02 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter kk
00:18:08 <Bensawsome> what audio i wonder =_=
00:18:17 <KevinPorter> Hmm.
00:18:18 <JacobMastel> Audio for what?
00:19:00 <Bensawsome> JacobMastel powerpoint presdentation
00:19:06 <Bensawsome> gluxon needs a file converted
00:19:10 <Bensawsome> video file
00:19:14 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: MP4 container, leave the audio at defaults.
00:19:19 <Bensawsome> kk
00:20:31 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter hmmm so just leave the audio on male mp3?
00:20:36 <KevinPorter> Sure.
00:20:36 <gluxon> Bensawsome: Mind pinging me when you're done?
00:20:37 <Bensawsome> that what it defaulkted as >_>
00:20:39 <Bensawsome> ok
00:20:43 * Bensawsome ping gluxon ;D
00:20:46 <Bensawsome> lol jk :P
00:20:49 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: Crap. Don't do that MP4 container.
00:20:53 <Bensawsome> .....
00:21:09 <KevinPorter> Use the Mpeg2 container.
00:21:11 <Bensawsome> ok
00:21:14 <KevinPorter> And I'm positive that will work. :P
00:21:16 <gluxon> ???
00:21:28 <gluxon> Bensawsome: Are you done or pulling my leg?
00:21:31 <Bensawsome> wait for thje audio
00:21:36 <Bensawsome> gluxon: no ;D (yes)
00:21:40 <gluxon> What?
00:21:43 <gluxon> No and Yes?
00:21:46 <Bensawsome> yes
00:21:49 <gluxon> What kind of answer is that?
00:21:51 <Bensawsome> i mean yes im done XD
00:21:59 <gluxon> Bensawsome: Send it back :D
00:22:03 <gluxon> Thanks.
00:22:08 <Bensawsome> anyways KevinPorter: i dont see mpeg2 >_>
00:22:13 <Bensawsome> you mean for video?
00:22:18 <KevinPorter> Yes.
00:22:21 <KevinPorter> For video.
00:22:34 <Bensawsome> kk
00:22:44 <Bensawsome> hmmm and still lamemp3 for audio KevinPorter?
00:22:57 <KevinPorter> I bet that's all PowerPoint supports. :P
00:23:02 <KevinPorter> Yes, go ahead and do that.
00:23:02 <Bensawsome> lol ya ---
00:23:15 * Bensawsome wonders if he has the lamemp3.dll :O
00:23:36 <Bensawsome> shoot so format=mpeg2
00:23:39 <Bensawsome> container=mpeg2
00:23:42 <Bensawsome> right KevinPorter?
00:23:49 <KevinPorter> Yep.
00:23:57 <Bensawsome> kk sounds good ^_^
00:24:00 <gluxon> Bensawsome: Are you done or what? I can't tell :P :D
00:24:05 <Bensawsome> no gluxon :P
00:24:09 <gluxon> Okay ;)
00:24:25 <excid3> dinner time
00:24:39 <KevinPorter> excid3: Do not speak of food. I am now hungry again. :P
00:25:39 <Roamer> Oh great... Quick excid3! Hide the children! Kevin is hungry!!!
00:25:43 <Bensawsome> hmmmm i dont think it worked KevinPorter :'(
00:25:59 <Bensawsome> it not playing T_T
00:26:03 <gluxon> The file? :(
00:26:07 <Bensawsome> OH! I know the perfect thing for gluxon :D
00:26:18 <gluxon> REALLY? :P
00:26:20 <Bensawsome> no extra software requried :D
00:26:22 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: Typical MediaCoder fail.
00:26:26 * gluxon jumps up in the air.
00:26:46 <Bensawsome> gluxon use this: http://media-convert.com/
00:26:56 <Bensawsome> its simple so even you can understand it ;D
00:26:57 <Bensawsome> lol
00:27:20 <gluxon> Bensawsome: Can understand it what? :(
00:27:34 <Bensawsome> lol im jking around gluxon dont worry ;)
00:27:41 * gluxon feels like he's being treated like a dumbo :P
00:27:42 <Bensawsome> i was just teasing you ;)
00:27:47 <JohnTHaller> alright... chat with you guys later
00:27:47 <Bensawsome> lol
00:27:51 <Bensawsome> cya JohnTHaller :)
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00:28:15 <Bensawsome> so gluxon your best bet would bew .mp4 format
00:28:18 *** BrianALL-Away is now known as BrianALL
00:28:24 <gluxon> Okay.
00:28:24 <Bensawsome> hello TBird need anything?
00:29:12 <rmccue> My ninja powers sense that you have a problem with Thunderbird Portable.
00:29:35 <Bensawsome> lol nice powers rmccue ;)
00:29:43 <rmccue> HWAAAA!
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00:29:58 * Roamer scoffs at rmccue's powers!
00:30:01 <KevinPorter> rmccue: Thank you, captain obvious.
00:30:05 <gluxon> and we store your file for approximatively 24 hours from the time we send the email. Thank you.
00:30:14 <TBird> We updated Thunderbird on a U3 SanDisk Micro it required uninstall, then reinstall, now ALL IS Lost - HELLLLLLP
00:30:32 <gluxon> Does that mean I'll get it in 24 hours?
00:30:44 <KevinPorter> gluxon: Ssh. Support. ;)
00:30:59 <Bensawsome> TBird are you using the portableapps.com version or the u3 version?
00:31:23 <purple> ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
00:31:33 <TBird> U3, but will change to PortableApp once email are recovered
00:31:58 * DaveDixonII is back
00:32:01 <Bensawsome> TBird well if its gone its gone :(
00:32:07 <Bensawsome> DaveDixonII and purple shhh support
00:32:27 <Bensawsome> if you uninstalled it you really cant do anything about it :(
00:32:38 <TBird> Is there an automatic backup or archive I can look for?
00:33:02 <Bensawsome> not im sorry....if you uninstalled it you really cant do anything about it :(
00:33:14 <rmccue> TBird: Because it's the U3 version, it's not actually ours, which means it doesn't support keeping your data.
00:33:51 <rmccue> TBird: You may be able to use a disk recovery software, but other than that, we have no idea sorry.
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00:34:07 <TBird> Where can I get U3 help? Their site says go to Mozille, Mozilla says go to PortableApps!
00:34:36 <Bensawsome> they were wrong then :S TBird they prbly didnt know you were talking about u3
00:34:48 <Bensawsome> and also TBird there is nothing you can do... you said you reinstalled it right?
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00:34:59 <Bensawsome> then it has already written over your data....
00:35:06 <Bensawsome> you cant recover even now :(
00:35:11 <rmccue> TBird: I don't believe U3 is supported at all. Mozilla believes it is ours, because we are the only ones with permission to distribute it.
00:35:11 <TBird> I did try the PC Inspector File recovery but no luck
00:35:28 <Bensawsome> ya so there is nothing you can do about it....
00:36:03 <rmccue> TBird: Let me just check something,
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00:36:49 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
00:37:16 <rmccue> TBird: Where X represents your drive letter, can you please open X:\System\Apps ?
00:37:24 <rmccue> It's a hidden folder.
00:37:38 <TBird> Yes, I'm there
00:37:55 <rmccue> Do you have hidden files viewable?
00:38:41 <TBird> Yes
00:39:01 <rmccue> OK, browse through the folders and see if you can find any trace of Thunderbird.
00:39:34 <TBird> I found the NEW Thunderbird
00:39:58 <Bensawsome> ya your probably over writed the data already :(
00:40:11 <rmccue> OK, keep searching, hopefully you might be able to find the old one.
00:41:26 <TBird> That's the only Thunderbird folder I can find
00:41:29 <Bensawsome> :(
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00:44:07 <TBird> We're in tears! Thanks for the help. Special thanks to rmccue - good job! Happy New Year everyone!
00:44:22 <Bensawsome> ok cya >_>
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00:48:33 <rmccue> No worries TBird, and happy new year to you too.
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00:54:24 * KevinPorter cries at Mibbit spam.
00:54:39 * Gizmokid2005 consoles KevinPorter, it's ok
00:55:14 * excid3 doesnt care :P
00:56:24 <purple> anyone uses xchat?
00:56:44 <KevinPorter> I do.
00:57:01 <excid3> purple: i do too
00:57:18 <purple> KevinPorter, do you have a color config other than default one which you could share?
00:57:21 * Bensawsome doesn't care either :S
00:57:29 <Bensawsome> hmmm color config?
00:57:29 <purple> excid3, you too
00:57:36 <KevinPorter> purple: I just use the default.
00:57:37 <Bensawsome> you mean in the settings?
00:57:40 <Bensawsome> hmmmmmm
00:57:46 <purple> Bensawsome, yeah
00:57:58 <purple> its stored in one file in AppData
00:58:12 <excid3> purple: i use the standard config
00:58:18 <purple> or just Data, depending wether you use portable one or regulary installed :)
00:58:22 <Bensawsome> hmmmmm ya its better to use the standard
00:58:31 <purple> Bensawsome, no its not
00:58:41 * KevinPorter doesn't really care about the colors.
00:58:51 * Bensawsome loves colors :D
00:59:06 * Bensawsome wishes #portableApps showed colors v_v
00:59:16 <Bensawsome> /mode #portableApps -c
00:59:17 <Bensawsome> >_>
00:59:47 <Bensawsome> v_v
01:01:04 <purple> this is how mine looks
01:01:05 <purple> http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8004/sshot1nd8.png
01:01:31 <Bensawsome> witno! NICE
01:01:59 <purple> :)
01:03:16 <Bensawsome> purple also people who might be more helpful would be the people on #xchat :)
01:05:52 <Bensawsome> .twitter Bensawsome
01:05:54 <pabot> Bensawsome: wow the new 17" MacBook Pros have up to 8 HOURS or battery life :D impressive ^_^
01:06:00 <Bensawsome> ^_^
01:06:18 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yeah, I saw that
01:06:20 <Gizmokid2005> I want one :(
01:06:24 <Gizmokid2005> but they are $2800
01:07:05 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 not with student discount :D
01:07:13 <KevinPorter> I personally would rather have a nice PC notebook.
01:07:13 <Bensawsome> lol
01:07:16 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I know...but it doesn't take off a whole lot...
01:07:27 <KevinPorter> But I'm recommending to my parents that they get an iMac.
01:07:29 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter does it have 8 hours of battery life :P
01:07:47 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: I'm not too worried about battery life usually.
01:07:51 <Bensawsome> lol i am :S
01:07:57 <KevinPorter> If it has 3-4 hours, it's fine for me.
01:08:07 <Bensawsome> i need a battery that can last me all day without a recharge :S
01:08:30 <Bensawsome> in the college im going to most of the classrooms have only a few plugs :S
01:08:31 * KevinPorter just plugs his notebook in the wall. :P
01:08:38 <Bensawsome> :P
01:08:41 <KevinPorter> Then it might be of use to you. :P
01:08:54 <Bensawsome> yep ^_^
01:09:08 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: Though I have relinquished my Apple hate to recommend that my parents get an iMac.
01:09:33 <purple> http://t0x.in/xchatthemes.html
01:09:36 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter even though they help gay rights people :P
01:09:37 <purple> found it :)
01:09:42 <Bensawsome> oh wait no politics >_>
01:09:45 <Bensawsome> sry
01:09:52 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: We're talking tech here. :P
01:10:05 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter yes :P but i still remember you saying that on twitter ;D
01:10:17 <KevinPorter> I did, but I changed my mind later on. :P
01:10:19 <Bensawsome> but ya the imac is great.....
01:10:21 <Bensawsome> lol
01:10:38 <KevinPorter> I think my mom will really like OSX, and my dad I think will enjoy its simplicity.
01:10:41 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter i really dont see why everyone worries about what orginaizations any company goes for :S
01:11:06 <Bensawsome> i could care less if they helped a certain orginiazation or cause...
01:11:16 <Bensawsome> iuf they have good products... i buy them... period...
01:11:47 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter yes plus they can still have windows :S
01:11:52 <Bensawsome> if they really need to >_>
01:11:54 <KevinPorter> Yeah, I know.
01:12:11 <KevinPorter> I have an XP disc around here somewhere, so I can play games on the iMac. :D
01:12:26 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter name the game you have for windows to me
01:12:36 <Bensawsome> *games
01:13:07 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I have a few that I have to run in windows too :( but on top of that, the mac doesn't have enough power to run them
01:13:12 <KevinPorter> I might buy CoD (4+World at War), and I have Battlefront II (which is still an awesome game).
01:14:08 <Bensawsome> hey KevinPorter guess what :P they have both those cod's for mac :P
01:14:19 <Bensawsome> bfII they dont but....
01:14:31 <Bensawsome> the mac games list is every growing KevinPorter ;)
01:14:32 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: here's a list for you
01:14:41 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 hmm?
01:14:50 <Bensawsome> oh ok >_>
01:14:57 <excid3> Bensawsome: yeah, solitaire, chess, checkers...
01:15:02 <Bensawsome> excid3 what?
01:15:05 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: They do? I didn't realize I was living in such a huge hole here. :P
01:15:07 <excid3> the mac games :P
01:15:10 <KevinPorter> Lol.
01:15:10 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter :P fail
01:15:30 <Bensawsome> excid3 trust me they have alot of games for the mac ;)
01:15:31 <Bensawsome> halo
01:15:44 <Bensawsome> my favorite by a long haul ;)
01:15:46 <excid3> oh i will :P
01:15:55 <Bensawsome> i think all the battlefields
01:16:00 <excid3> anyone care to help me learn some IRC op stuff?
01:16:04 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: Test Drive Unlimited, Audiosurf, CS:S, COD4, Need For Speed:MW, NFS:Carbon, NFS:Undercover, Grid, GTA:SA, TMNF, TMN, etc...
01:16:09 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: whatche need?
01:16:10 <excid3> i dont know a darn thing about IRC really... :(
01:16:14 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 those the ones you have?
01:16:18 <Bensawsome> excid3 i can hlpe ^_^
01:16:19 <excid3> Gizmokid2005: come to #keryx
01:16:21 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yes, and I play
01:16:29 <Bensawsome> freaking awesome Gizmokid2005 :)
01:16:38 <Bensawsome> see KevinPorter? there are PLENTY of mac games :D
01:16:39 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I know :) I don't have undercover yet, but it's in the workin
01:16:43 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: those are for PC
01:16:44 <Gizmokid2005> not mac
01:16:48 <Bensawsome> .....
01:16:53 <Bensawsome> thanks Gizmokid2005.........
01:16:54 <Gizmokid2005> I was giving you a list of games that I have for PC that keep me from going all mac ;)
01:16:56 <Gizmokid2005> :D
01:16:58 <Bensawsome> -_-
01:16:58 <Gizmokid2005> :P
01:17:02 <Bensawsome> thanks......
01:17:10 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: They probably use OpenGL for graphics right?
01:17:21 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter hmmm not sure anymore
01:17:31 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter most of the new ones have nvidia cards i know that.....
01:17:48 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Macintosh_games
01:17:48 <KevinPorter> The iMacs have the ATI cards.
01:17:59 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter: the ones that don't have built-in lol
01:17:59 <Bensawsome> KevinPorter you know what i mean =_=
01:18:00 <Bensawsome> lol
01:18:13 <Bensawsome> lol
01:18:16 * KevinPorter plays dumb.
01:18:18 <Bensawsome> anywho....
01:18:19 <Bensawsome> lol
01:18:21 <KevinPorter> I have no idea what you mean Bensawsome.
01:18:22 <KevinPorter> :P
01:18:23 * Bensawsome eats KevinPorter's dumb
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01:29:22 <ZachThibeau> KevinPorter: your smart now :D Bensawsome ate your dumb :P
01:29:45 <KevinPorter> Lol.
01:30:42 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: don't you agree Michael :D
01:31:15 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: what am I agreeing to?
01:31:35 <ZachThibeau> <ZachThibeau> KevinPorter: your smart now :D Bensawsome ate your dumb :P
01:31:45 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: ahh, sure :)
01:32:11 <ZachThibeau> :P
01:32:53 <KevinPorter> Heh.
01:33:32 <KevinPorter> .o twitter kevinporter 3
01:33:35 <pabot> <@KevinPorter> @alpha1beta Hehe. Is the voice quality very good? I *need* the best voice quality for the money. ;-) (http://twitter.com/KevinPorter/statuses/1100824199)
01:33:44 <KevinPorter> .o twitter KevinPorter 4
01:33:46 <pabot> <@KevinPorter> This is so much fun. I'm converting my media library over to 256Kpbs VBR AAC. I figured I should do it now before I get too much more music (http://twitter.com/KevinPorter/statuses/1100816088)
01:33:50 <KevinPorter> There we go.
01:34:05 <ZachThibeau> .o twitter
01:34:06 <pabot> <@ZachThibeau> Published a new post: Vista Fail http://cli.gs/PL9vmp (http://twitter.com/ZachThibeau/statuses/1100172029)
01:34:12 <ZachThibeau> :P
01:34:12 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: You might find this interesting? http://www.lifehacker.com.au/tips/2008/10/21/veency_offers_remote_control_of_your_jailbroken_iphone-2.html
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01:39:49 <KevinPorter> .o twitter
01:39:51 <pabot> <@KevinPorter> OMG! iTunes just found all the metadata for an album (ripped and burned to a new disc) from a local artist (Danny Voris). This is amazing! (http://twitter.com/KevinPorter/statuses/1100888197)
01:43:13 <ZachThibeau> .o twitter
01:43:15 <pabot> <@ZachThibeau> @KevinPorter Itunes is teh sucks (http://twitter.com/ZachThibeau/statuses/1100895019)
01:43:23 <ZachThibeau> Songbird FTW :D
01:43:28 <KevinPorter> Oh, I agree.
01:43:34 <KevinPorter> But still, that's a nice accomplishment.
01:43:49 <DaveDixonII> Songbird doesn't like the iTouch. :/
01:43:53 <DaveDixonII> My sister loves Ubuntu. :D
01:44:17 <excid3> itunes is for noobs
01:44:19 <KevinPorter> DaveDixonII: Your sister is an anomoly. :-/
01:44:30 <KevinPorter> excid3: I have to use it because of my iPod touch.
01:44:35 <DaveDixonII> .wik anomoly
01:44:38 <pabot> "An anomaly is any occurrence or object that is strange, unusual, or unique." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomoly
01:44:46 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: Wtf?
01:44:54 <excid3> KevinPorter: yeah that sucks, you cant transfer with other programs though?
01:44:58 <KevinPorter> Oops. s/anomoly/anomaly
01:45:05 <excid3> i use winamp to transfer to my nano 3g
01:45:22 <KevinPorter> DaveDixonII: Meaning, she is odd in that way. Most non-geeks I find don't like Ubuntu that much.
01:45:35 <DaveDixonII> She likes it because its faster. xD
01:45:44 <DaveDixonII> She can actually listen to her music without it skipping.
01:48:28 <rmccue> .ety anomoly
01:48:30 <pabot> Can't find the etymology for "anomoly". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=anomoly
01:48:50 <rmccue> I'm pretty sure it stems from the same root as "normal"
01:49:32 <KevinPorter> .ety anomaly
01:49:34 <pabot> "1571, from L. anomalia, from Gk. anomalia, noun of quality from anomalos 'uneven, irregular,' from an- 'not' + homalos 'even,' from homos 'same' (see same)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=anomaly
01:49:38 <KevinPorter> rmccue: ;)
01:50:07 <rmccue> .def stfu
01:50:08 <pabot> rmccue: stfu is http://www.gizmokid2005.com/images/stfu.png
01:50:18 * KevinPorter didn't talk. He just winked.
01:50:28 <rmccue> ".ety anomaly"
01:50:31 <rmccue> That's talking.
01:50:37 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter: techinically, it's typing
01:50:37 <rmccue> So was "KevinPorter didn't talk. He just winked."
01:50:38 <Gizmokid2005> so...
01:50:49 <KevinPorter> Hehe.
01:51:07 <KevinPorter> rmccue: Whatever.
01:51:24 <rmccue> KevinPorter: Stop typing and emoting. :P
01:51:28 <rmccue> Ha! Foiled!
01:51:29 <ZachThibeau> :/
01:51:56 * DaveDixonII got vnc running! :D
01:52:06 <KevinPorter> rmccue: Not exactly.
01:52:09 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII: that's not that complicated...
01:52:20 <DaveDixonII> Gizmokid2005: It's a pain for me in Ubuntu
01:52:21 <DaveDixonII> :/
01:52:27 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII: jeez :p
01:52:30 <Gizmokid2005> j/k
01:52:34 <Gizmokid2005> I can't stand VNC
01:52:43 * DaveDixonII uses it at school. xD
01:52:47 <Gizmokid2005> LMI ftw :)
01:52:50 <DaveDixonII> Starting tomarrow
01:52:50 <ZachThibeau> VNC I love only on occassions :/
01:53:09 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: yeah...I hate the slow refreshes...honestly, if it wasn't for that..I'd be ok
01:53:20 <rmccue> KevinPorter: You just typed, therefore, you disobeyed me!
01:53:24 <ZachThibeau> I use it for small things :P
01:53:27 <Gizmokid2005> rmccue: shush
01:53:27 <KevinPorter> rmccue: Your point? :P
01:53:35 <ZachThibeau> DaveDixonII: it works :D
01:53:43 <DaveDixonII> ZachThibeau: Yea......... I know. :P
01:53:57 <rmccue> KevinPorter: That being my point :P
01:54:00 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter!!!!
01:54:06 * DaveDixonII goes to corner
01:54:13 * Gizmokid2005 rolls eyes @ rmccue
01:54:19 * rmccue runs
01:54:22 <rmccue> DO-MO
01:54:24 <ZachThibeau> :/
01:54:36 * ZachThibeau bows down to rmccue's power
01:54:42 <DaveDixonII> :D
01:54:46 <KevinPorter> This is my point, eh?
01:54:47 * rmccue waits
01:54:56 <KevinPorter> Didn't have to wait. :P
01:54:57 <DaveDixonII> for what?
01:55:12 * KevinPorter knew rmccue would do that for him.
01:55:36 <DaveDixonII> /msg chanserv unban #portableapps
01:55:37 <DaveDixonII> xD
01:55:43 <DaveDixonII> @KevinPorter
01:55:53 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII: that's the best command ever :)
01:55:58 <Gizmokid2005> I've used it a few times
01:56:21 <DaveDixonII> Gizmokid2005: Yup. If your IRC staff. Thats a different story. ;)
01:56:25 <KevinPorter> DaveDixonII: I didn't need to do that. It was only a mute. :P
01:56:31 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII: lol yeah
01:56:50 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: +q = +b %
01:56:52 <DaveDixonII> ;)
01:57:12 <excid3> Apple going to a DRM-free iTunes is like the prison warden deciding the foot shackles are no longer required
01:57:29 <KevinPorter> DaveDixonII: I know, but all I had to do was op and unban. But whatever.
01:57:41 <KevinPorter> excid3: Heh.
01:57:45 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: No fun. :P
01:59:41 <DaveDixonII> If you ever need to create a .htaccess/.htpasswd and you use apache, use this site. :D http://www.htaccesstools.com/htpasswd-generator/
02:00:01 <rmccue> DaveDixonII: Plus, if you're opped or voiced, quieting doesn't apply.
02:00:10 <rmccue> DaveDixonII: Also, there's more to it than that.
02:00:18 <DaveDixonII> rmccue: I have an irc server. :P
02:00:50 <rmccue> DaveDixonII: And what IRCd are you running?
02:00:59 <DaveDixonII> .wik ShadowIRCd
02:01:05 <pabot> "The following tables compare general and technical information including the differences in feature sets between popular IRC daemons." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_IRC_daemons
02:01:15 <DaveDixonII> Fail. :/
02:01:52 <rmccue> Hyperion is different.
02:01:57 <KevinPorter> Eh, I'm going to get going.
02:02:00 <KevinPorter> G'night everyone.
02:02:02 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: Adios
02:02:05 <Gizmokid2005> night KevinPorter
02:02:06 <rmccue> Night.
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02:02:15 <DaveDixonII> rmccue: It has most of the same modes. ;)
02:02:23 <DaveDixonII> i use same services
02:02:29 <rmccue> For example, on most servers, a quiet is actually a quiet, while in Hyperion, it's a fake quiet.
02:02:32 <BrianALL> Bye everyone, i'm off for now
02:02:39 <Gizmokid2005> bye BrianALL
02:02:41 <BrianALL> l8r
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02:03:32 <DaveDixonII> rmccue: You still get the same result. ;)
02:04:16 <rmccue> DaveDixonII: Not always.
02:04:52 <DaveDixonII> A mutes a mute. Does the same thing. Okay? :P
02:04:54 <DaveDixonII> Sheesh
02:05:14 <rmccue> Like I said, not always.
02:05:28 * DaveDixonII ended it. :P
02:05:32 <rmccue> There are bugs with the way it's implemented in Hyperion, from memory.
02:09:14 * DaveDixonII will brb.
02:09:24 <Gizmokid2005> ladies, take that to #argue
02:09:27 <Gizmokid2005> :P
02:09:54 <rmccue> Wow, imagine if Junior Senior joined with MGMT.
02:10:00 <rmccue> Senior Management :
02:10:02 <rmccue> * :P
02:10:12 <Gizmokid2005> lol
02:10:29 <ZachThibeau> :P
02:11:13 <ZachThibeau> Heroes FTW :D
02:32:45 * DaveDixonII was enjoying the sweet sound of hearing nothing negative coming out of my sister's mouth about the computer. :)
02:33:50 <DaveDixonII> Ubuntu FTW. :D
02:36:45 <ZachThibeau> :D Ubuntu FTW indeed
02:40:05 <rmccue> DO-MO
02:40:13 <rmccue> BTW, Domonation is back up.
02:42:22 <ZachThibeau> :/
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02:43:38 <ZachThibeau> howdy TaffinFoxcroft
02:43:52 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi
02:44:00 <DaveDixonII> hola
02:44:09 <Gizmokid2005> hello TaffinFoxcroft
02:44:19 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi gizmo
02:44:31 <DaveDixonII> no hi for me? :(]
02:44:31 <TaffinFoxcroft> and dave
02:44:34 <DaveDixonII> :
02:44:47 <DaveDixonII> :D (damn keyboard)
02:45:12 <ZachThibeau> :P
02:45:48 <purple> laters, g'night
02:46:13 <Gizmokid2005> night purple
02:47:31 <Bensawsome> >_>
02:48:02 * DaveDixonII is messing with straightner. O.o and hes watching
02:51:31 <Sancas> DaveDixonII,
02:51:34 <Sancas> DaveDixonII, ping!
02:51:41 <DaveDixonII> Si?
02:51:46 <Sancas> mp
02:51:52 <DaveDixonII> ok
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03:05:48 <pabot> TimClark wants you to know that as part of an experiment Pabot has been put on his Ignore list and as such can not be used to show him stuff [wik,g,o, twits, etc]
03:05:56 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark
03:06:03 <TimClark> hello all :D
03:06:27 <TimClark> Bensawsome: , Windows does not use a Recycle/trash bin for flash drives or floppy disk, let the Windows folks answer those questions :P
03:07:03 <Bensawsome> i never noticed tthat :S
03:07:07 <TimClark> And Bensawsome, about that "word", I never said a thing about it, it's the subject, not the word :P
03:07:23 <Bensawsome> TimClark what? (i seriously dont know what you mean :S)
03:07:37 <Bensawsome> TimClark! oh that!
03:07:38 <Bensawsome> lol
03:07:39 <Bensawsome> ok
03:16:37 <TimClark> Obama's twit account was hacked :O
03:17:31 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: big surprise
03:18:03 <TimClark> i guess you are being sarcastic ?
03:18:08 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: yes.
03:18:27 <TimClark> i take it twitts are not secure ?
03:18:28 <Gizmokid2005> hacking happens ALL the time...people just seem surprised when it's a high-profile person, as if they were immune to begin with...
03:19:26 <TimClark> i was not really surprised, but as folks here are into that i thought it might be useful information
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03:19:37 <Gizmokid2005> hello JacobMastel
03:19:38 <Gizmokid2005> and ok TimClark
03:19:47 <JacobMastel> Hi Gizmokid2005
03:19:55 <JacobMastel> and everyone else
03:19:59 <TimClark> hello
03:20:07 <JacobMastel> HOw's it going?
03:20:31 <Gizmokid2005> it's going
03:20:38 <JacobMastel> Where? :P
03:20:50 <TimClark> Bensawsome: gave windows information earlier , Phail :P
03:21:02 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: to hell if I don't change my ways
03:21:02 <Gizmokid2005> lol
03:21:19 <Bensawsome> what :P i always had the experience that it goes to the recycle bin by default...
03:21:41 <Bensawsome> and 99.999999% of the time i go shift delete which deletes it then and their anyways!
03:21:43 <TimClark> Bensawsome thinks I don't like "porn" , the "word", not the subject :O
03:22:28 * TimClark loves Bensawsome , his is so silly :D
03:22:33 <JacobMastel> Gizmokid2005: It's okay you'll be in good company...
03:22:41 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: thanks
03:23:00 <JacobMastel> Every read the Adventures of Huckelberry Fin
03:23:04 <JacobMastel> *ever
03:23:12 <Gizmokid2005> I think I did, years ago
03:23:14 <Gizmokid2005> but I don't remember it now
03:23:16 <Bensawsome> ...
03:23:40 <JacobMastel> "I don't think I'll want to go to the good place if you'll be there....I'll go to the bad place with Tom"...something like that
03:24:51 <TimClark> speaking of going.. i shall, night all
03:24:57 <JacobMastel> By TimClark
03:25:03 <JacobMastel> *bye
03:25:13 <Gizmokid2005> bye TimClark
03:25:17 * JacobMastel sings a bad immitations of "Bye bye bye"
03:25:20 <JacobMastel> :P
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03:26:10 <Bensawsome> JacobMastel LOL I use to love that song
03:26:26 <JacobMastel> ?really?
03:26:34 <Bensawsome> by nsync right?
03:26:36 <Bensawsome> errr
03:26:39 <Bensawsome> backstreet boys
03:26:42 <JacobMastel> No Backstreet boys I thinnk..
03:26:45 <Bensawsome> no it was nsync
03:26:48 <Bensawsome> 'bye bye bye?
03:26:55 <Bensawsome> .o youtube bye bye bye
03:26:58 <pabot> <!DOCTYPE html> <!-- Try using the full URI as an arg -->
03:27:02 <Bensawsome> .... nvrmnd
03:27:09 <JacobMastel> .g bye bye bye
03:27:09 <Gizmokid2005> ben lol fail
03:27:11 <pabot> JacobMastel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JoJqID-wJY
03:27:21 <Bensawsome> lol Gizmokid2005 ;D
03:27:27 <JacobMastel> I WIN!
03:27:47 <JacobMastel> Oh darn I lost too...
03:27:49 <Bensawsome> ya it was nsync
03:27:52 <JacobMastel> It was Nsync
03:27:54 <Bensawsome> JacobMastel i said nsync....
03:28:06 <JacobMastel> Bensawsome: That's why I said I lost too.....
03:28:15 <JacobMastel> (7:53:04 PM) JacobMastel: I WIN!
03:28:15 <JacobMastel> (7:53:25 PM) JacobMastel: Oh darn I lost too...
03:28:16 <Bensawsome> :P
03:28:49 <Bensawsome> pwnt
03:28:59 <Bensawsome> it aint no lie baby bye bye bye!!!!
03:29:19 * JacobMastel doesn't know any part besides the bye bye bye part
03:29:21 <Bensawsome> omg... i still like the tune! SOMEONE SLAP ME!!!
03:29:29 * JacobMastel SMACKS benjamin
03:29:36 <Bensawsome> ......................
03:29:40 <Bensawsome> fail.
03:29:53 <JacobMastel> How do I fail?
03:29:59 <Bensawsome> benjamin
03:30:01 <rmccue> Quite easily.
03:30:06 <Bensawsome> no one calls me that except my parents
03:30:10 <JacobMastel> lol :P
03:30:20 <rmccue> Bensawsome: You should change your nick to Bensjammin :P
03:30:27 <Bensawsome> im doing this tonite! prbly gonna start a fight!~
03:30:35 <JacobMastel> What???
03:30:36 *** Bensawsome is now known as BensJammin
03:30:38 <BensJammin> ^_^
03:30:46 <JacobMastel> Kill the s
03:30:48 <rmccue> Hehe.
03:30:51 *** JacobMastel is now known as Benjamin1
03:31:02 <BensJammin> i wanna see you out that door! baby bye bye bye!
03:31:08 <Benjamin1> KICK HIM
03:31:09 <rmccue> Benjamin1: It's a pun.
03:31:14 *** Benjamin1 is now known as JacobMastel
03:31:18 <BensJammin> lol
03:31:22 <BensJammin> i know that :P
03:31:39 <rmccue> BensJammin: But JacobMastel didn't, notice who it was addressed to :P
03:32:01 <BensJammin> lol yep aparently ;D
03:32:46 <rmccue> Enough is enough, is enough, is enough.
03:32:50 <rmccue> I want you out!
03:32:55 <rmccue> I want you OUT THAT DOOR NOW!
03:32:57 <JacobMastel> Oh my GOD
03:33:01 <rmccue> Oh my god, it really is you!
03:33:10 <rmccue> So, what's the future like?
03:33:31 <JacobMastel> Benjamin Kuaffman *in a parental voice* WHAT DID YOU DO?? You got the frosh stuck on a stupid boyband ;P
03:33:31 <rmccue> </family_guy_reference>
03:34:00 <JacobMastel> *Kauffman
03:35:29 <JacobMastel> It's so quiet in hear I hear the voices in side my head.......
03:36:17 <JacobMastel> While I was traveling through Arkensaw I saw a saw that could out saw any saw that you ever saw, but if you come across a saw that could out-saw the saw I saw I want to see the saw that you saw saw.
03:37:16 * JacobMastel pokes BensJammin & rmccue
03:37:51 * BensJammin eats JacobMastel
03:37:56 <BensJammin> NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NO
03:38:08 <BensJammin> JacobMastel actualy Ben KauFman
03:38:29 <JacobMastel> That's not what it says in Pidgin :P
03:39:06 *** BensJammin is now known as Bensawsome
03:39:09 <rmccue> A sailor went to sea, sea, sea, to see what he could see, see, see. But all that he could see, see, see, is the bottom of the deep blue sea, sea, sea.
03:39:18 <Bensawsome> orly rmccue?
03:39:26 <JacobMastel> rmccue: that wasn't as good as mine :P
03:39:45 <JacobMastel> Mine had a purpose behind the multiple saw's
03:40:07 <Bensawsome> .def orly?
03:40:08 <pabot> Bensawsome: I have no idea who or what orly? is.
03:40:12 <Bensawsome> .def orly
03:40:13 <pabot> Bensawsome: orly is Oh, really?
03:40:14 <Bensawsome> .def yarly
03:40:15 <pabot> Bensawsome: yarly is yes, really!
03:40:23 <Bensawsome> lol
03:40:31 <rmccue> Have you ever, ever, ever in your long legged life, seen a long legged sailor with a long legged wife?
03:40:38 * Bensawsome eats rmccue's legs
03:40:40 <rmccue> 1
03:40:41 <rmccue> 121
03:40:43 <rmccue> 12321
03:40:46 <rmccue> 1234321
03:40:52 <rmccue> 123454321
03:40:56 <rmccue> 12345654321
03:40:58 <JacobMastel> .def orly
03:40:59 <pabot> JacobMastel: I have no idea who or what orly is.
03:41:01 <rmccue> 1234567654321
03:41:07 <rmccue> 123456787654321
03:41:08 <JacobMastel> rmccue: DIE
03:41:20 <rmccue> And then we usually pass about before we can reach 9. :/
03:41:30 <rmccue> Much too high to sing.
03:41:42 <Bensawsome> JacobMastel what the heck though i like that :(
03:41:52 <JacobMastel> I will put it back :D :P
03:41:58 <Bensawsome> .def orly
03:41:59 <pabot> Bensawsome: I have no idea who or what orly is.
03:42:02 <Bensawsome> ......
03:42:03 <Bensawsome> fail
03:42:08 <DaveDixonII> Wow talk about lame. :P
03:42:13 <JacobMastel> .def Orly
03:42:14 <pabot> JacobMastel: Orly is Oh, really?
03:42:21 <JacobMastel> happy?
03:42:28 <rmccue> .def yarly
03:42:29 <pabot> rmccue: yarly is yes, really!
03:42:29 <rmccue> LD
03:42:39 <rmccue> s/LD/:D/
03:42:43 <Bensawsome> lol\
03:43:09 <Gizmokid2005> wow guys, read this: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Curiosity,-Ignorance,-Malice.aspx
03:43:14 <Gizmokid2005> it really makes you wonder
03:43:14 <Bensawsome> nite guys >_>
03:43:20 <rmccue> Bye.
03:43:20 <Gizmokid2005> g'night Bensawsome
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03:46:12 <JacobMastel> Hello Willy
03:46:15 <JacobMastel> Can we help you?
03:46:33 <Willy> Great to see someone online. Yes you can.
03:46:49 <JacobMastel> How can we help you?
03:47:25 <Willy> I have a USB stick and want to be able to use Portable Apps. I want to ensure that the data on the stick remains confidential.
03:47:32 <JacobMastel> Yes it will not be touched
03:47:40 <JacobMastel> No information is sent anywhere
03:47:42 <Willy> Does the PA suite offer security or do I need to use something else?
03:47:50 <Willy> Is there a recommendation.
03:47:57 <JacobMastel> You need something else. If you're not bothered about admin rights go for true crypt
03:48:12 <Willy> Thanks for the answer - but I was referring to the files and email etc. that I save on the USB.
03:48:27 <JacobMastel> Oh okay. Thunderbird can be set to use a master password
03:49:03 <JacobMastel> Also Toucan found on the app page can encrypt individual files.
03:49:16 <Willy> ... but Thunderbird is only the email.... so I still need True Crypt for the other files (e.g., Word processing and spreadsheets) that may be on the memory stick.
03:49:23 <JacobMastel> Correct
03:49:37 <JacobMastel> Or I've used Keepass before
03:49:39 <Willy> Don't want to go down the individual file route - too much work.
03:49:47 <rmccue> Or a similar solution, like FreeOTFE
03:50:07 <JacobMastel> The password mangaer.. I just attached the files in the password diagog then delted them off the stick
03:50:12 <JacobMastel> *dialog
03:50:24 <JacobMastel> .g Freeotfe
03:50:26 <pabot> JacobMastel: http://www.freeotfe.org/
03:50:37 <Willy> Haven't heard of Keepass before... or FreeOTFE. Will need to look into these more.
03:50:58 <JacobMastel> .pa keepass
03:51:01 <pabot> JacobMastel: KeePass Password Safe Portable - http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/keepass_portable
03:51:03 <JacobMastel> There's the keepass link
03:51:09 <JacobMastel> And the freeotfe is aboce
03:51:22 <JacobMastel> I would recommend truecrypt though.
03:51:27 <JacobMastel> truecrypt.org
03:52:01 <Willy> Sorry - what is your comment ".g Freeotfe"
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03:52:10 <pabot> excid3 is lead dev of Keryx, computer security phreak and hosts a blog at http://excid3.betaserver.org
03:52:30 <rmccue> Willy: That tells pabot to do a Google search for it, which you see the result for on the line after.
03:52:51 <Willy> Oh... I understand.
03:53:07 <JacobMastel> The .pa command I used searches only the PortableApps site
03:53:08 <Willy> Thanks for your help! You have been great!
03:53:12 <JacobMastel> No prob
03:53:23 <JacobMastel> anything else?
03:54:03 <Willy> Not right now - I have some checking out to do. I feel really comfortable coming back. Thanks!!
03:54:49 <JacobMastel> Feel free to come back if you have more questions. Also feel free to hang out you could probably learn stuff and help other users :)
03:55:40 <Willy> Good point.... If lurking is acceptable...
03:55:47 <rmccue> Of course it is :)
03:55:58 * excid3 lurks
03:56:01 <JacobMastel> Willy: Definately
03:56:05 <JacobMastel> Mir is our official lurker
03:56:10 <rmccue> About 40% of the people here lurk.
03:56:29 <Gizmokid2005> oh come on guys, I lurk/idle quite a bit too :)
03:56:34 <Gizmokid2005> but yeah, Mir is the official lurker
03:56:35 <JacobMastel> lol
03:56:49 * JacobMastel was affraid to piss of the op :P
03:57:03 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: meh, I don't get pissed about stuff like that :P
03:57:39 <JacobMastel> Better safe than sorry :D
03:58:35 <JacobMastel> Willy if you plan on using IRC you should register your nick
03:58:45 <rmccue> OMG THEY SAID PISS OMG CHRIS WILL KILL YOU LOL
03:59:31 <JacobMastel> */msg NickServ register <password> <email-address>
03:59:37 <JacobMastel> No asterick
04:00:30 <rmccue> * asterisk
04:00:36 <JacobMastel> Thanks mother :P
04:00:57 <JacobMastel> Also type this to protect it */msg NickServ set enforce on
04:01:12 <rmccue> No worries daughter. :P
04:01:34 <JacobMastel> rmccue: I will eat your soul! :O
04:01:38 <DaveDixonII> Wow....
04:01:46 * DaveDixonII got vnc working. :D
04:01:50 <DaveDixonII> brb
04:01:54 <JacobMastel> lol
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04:02:02 <pabot> recipro knows ancient Chinese secret: One who does not visit http://portableapps.com/support first, has indeed not read the freaking manual
04:02:08 <JacobMastel> recipro!! :D
04:02:16 <recipro> hi
04:02:19 <JacobMastel> How's it going Brian?
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04:05:29 <JacobMastel> SWEET!!!
04:06:11 <recipro> going okay
04:06:41 <JacobMastel> #32770
04:06:45 <JacobMastel> Eh wrong window sorry ;P
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04:09:02 <JacobMastel> Yell my name and click your heels if you need me :P
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04:15:50 <JacobMastel-Away> Good night all
04:15:54 <JacobMastel-Away> I'm off for tonight.
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04:16:03 <Gizmokid2005> bye
04:16:04 <Gizmokid2005> lol
04:16:51 <Willy> I come back and Jacobmastel is gone....
04:17:20 <Willy> Anyway, I looked at TrueCrypt and the comment that "You need administrator privileges in order to able to run TrueCrypt in 'traveler' mode. " is pretty restrictive...
04:17:30 <rmccue> Yep.
04:17:35 <rmccue> They pretty much all are.
04:17:45 <Willy> ... especially if you try to use the USB in a cyber cafe or on someone else's computer....
04:17:46 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, the have to load device drivers typically
04:17:52 <Gizmokid2005> so the security can't get messed with
04:17:57 <Gizmokid2005> I use truecrypt on my drive
04:18:01 <rmccue> It needs to install a driver to be able to handle the decrypting.
04:18:03 <Gizmokid2005> it works beautifully, so long as you have admin rights
04:18:15 <Willy> I can see how it could be useful on a full drive!!
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04:20:13 <Willy> I guess maybe I need to look again at the Cruzer drives again. The U3 option might provide some basic security. Any comments on it?
04:20:15 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
04:20:40 <Gizmokid2005> Willy: other than U3 is due to be discontinued, and the platform itself isn't as user-friendly as it could be...not really
04:20:50 <rmccue> I have a Cruzer in front of me.
04:21:11 <rmccue> I use my Lexar Lightning more often though, which also has encryption.
04:21:29 <rmccue> And yeah, U3 isn't really secure at all, it just appears to be.
04:21:49 <Gizmokid2005> Willy: your best bet would be to find a drive with hardware encryption in it, they are more expensive, but the security is much better
04:22:07 <rmccue> Especially the ones with the biometric scanners.
04:22:10 <PatrickPatience> Whoa. It's true.
04:22:14 <PatrickPatience> iTunes when DRM free.
04:22:37 <Willy> Hadn't heard about the Lexar option... I am actually wanting it for a USB, not a drive.
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04:24:02 <rmccue> Willy: I use mine as a USB drive between home and school and it works fine.
04:24:12 <rmccue> I don't use the encryption that often.
04:25:24 <Willy> I don't want to risk having anything on the USB finding its way into the hands of anyone!!
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04:25:55 <rmccue> Yeah, well, I'd advise a drive with a built in biometric scanner.
04:26:39 <Willy> The Lexar JumpDrive Lightning has a very sleek look ... and a very sleek price (at their online store anyway).
04:27:06 <recipro> rmccue: maybe one that pricks your finger for DNA too
04:27:10 <Willy> Does the encryption capabilities come on other than their Lightning series... I can also research it on my own..
04:27:58 <rmccue> It's software, so I'd say so.
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04:28:13 <rmccue> The Lightning is mainly built for speed though, rather than security.
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04:33:46 <recipro> bah
04:34:09 <recipro> I have a set TrueCrypt container on my drive when I need it
04:34:15 <recipro> works fine for me
04:34:15 <rmccue> No, Baaa.
04:34:35 <recipro> if I need to get to material often, I carry my laptop around a lot anyways
04:35:25 <recipro> I mean if you have sensitive material you need to get to often in many places
04:35:34 <recipro> you mise well just keep it on your laptop
04:36:15 <recipro> or bitch at TrueCrypt devs to try and come up with another way of an interface to open a container
04:37:38 <recipro> the way laptops are getting these days
04:37:45 <recipro> just wait 4-6 years
04:37:58 <recipro> they'll be lighter, smaller, and still pack a major punch
04:38:02 <Gizmokid2005> well, the iphone and itouch are close as is
04:38:06 <Gizmokid2005> and the EEE pc
04:38:07 <Gizmokid2005> etc
04:38:25 <recipro> eventually you won't need to even worry about the USB drive
04:38:37 <recipro> I would be willing to bet that within 10 years
04:38:45 <recipro> flash drives will bite the dust
04:38:57 <recipro> maybe quicker then that
04:39:12 <recipro> I mean you have a laptop or like Giz said a phone
04:39:18 <recipro> that can do everything and more you need
04:39:21 <recipro> as it's your "PC"
04:39:25 <recipro> who needs the flash drive?
04:39:47 <recipro> a laptop that's small and all I mean, not just "a laptop"
04:40:38 <ZachT|ZzZz> recipro: one line at a time bud :P
04:40:43 <recipro> the nice covenience (and PA has done a super job with it) of the flash drive now is the ability to do a lot of things you need without carrying your PC with you
04:41:28 <recipro> it makes it a nice device to have that works on a lot of PCs
04:41:36 <Gizmokid2005> I'm off to bed
04:41:38 <Gizmokid2005> g'night guys
04:41:39 <recipro> later
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04:42:29 <recipro> but that's starting to change as we are able to shrink the "main" device if you want to call it that down enough to where it's just as mobile
04:42:45 <Gizmokid2005|Zzz> see ya recipro, PatrickPatience, rmccue, DaveDixonII, ZachT|ZzZz
04:42:52 <ZachT|ZzZz> night Gizmokid2005|Zzz
04:43:04 <DaveDixonII> I have been poked!
04:43:07 <recipro> hah
04:43:12 <DaveDixonII> Gizmokid2005|Zzz: Buenos noches
04:43:26 <recipro> I think the future is in smaller mobile laptops and phones and micro flash memory
04:43:29 <rmccue> Gizmokid2005|Zzz: Auf Wiedersprechen.
04:51:52 <recipro> English only channel
04:51:56 <recipro> :)
04:56:24 <DaveDixonII> recipro: Rmccue es founder. :P
04:58:43 <recipro> then he should know better
04:58:45 <recipro> ;)
04:59:22 <DaveDixonII> Sorry. He can't do such a thing. :P Waving candles and singing songs real loud kinda screwed that up.
04:59:48 * rmccue sways
04:59:58 <rmccue> I heard there was a secret chord
05:00:06 <rmccue> That David played and it pleased the Lord
05:00:14 <rmccue> But you don't really care for music, do ya?
05:00:29 <DaveDixonII> I can't consintrate without it.
05:06:00 <DaveDixonII> http://pastebin.com/d34b6ad5b xD
05:13:54 <DaveDixonII> Good night everyone.
05:25:02 <PatrickPatience> Lol, imagine if this page were one massive image: http://www.tribalsoftware.ca/applications/thestar/
05:34:41 <Mir> LIES
05:34:56 <Mir> \>:|
05:36:12 <PatrickPatience> Night.
05:40:32 <Mir> night
05:58:18 <rmccue> PatrickPatience: roflol
06:13:57 <Guest79893> PatrickPatience, it is one massive image.
06:26:48 <rmccue> Guest79893: Ever heard of sarcasm?
06:47:09 <Guest79893> rmccue, maybe you should ask yourself that.
06:47:29 <rmccue> That makes no sense.
06:47:33 <rmccue> No dollars either.
06:47:39 <Guest79893> <Guest79893> PatrickPatience, it is one massive image.
06:47:43 <Guest79893> ^ That was sarcastic.
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08:52:59 <rmccue|tv> Hey Taf bro.
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09:24:43 <darko> good morming all
09:25:51 <darko> I have a question about how can I set protableapp up that it start when i start my usb stick
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11:03:02 <gambit007> hiya everyone...
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11:04:01 <gambit007> i heard about and installed portable app on my flash today with the hope of installing a program and its license onto my flash drive...
11:04:13 <gambit007> but its not working that way i assumed...
11:04:17 <gambit007> can someone guide me...
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11:23:55 <DaveDixonII> Well that backfired.
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11:42:00 <purple> btw, morning all :)
11:42:13 <rmccue> lol, hai
11:43:06 <Sancas> hello!
12:07:45 <purple> hey dudes
12:07:54 <rmccue> Hola senorita.
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13:49:57 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
13:59:22 <Gizmokid2005> YAY for silence!?
14:01:31 <sancas> look this http://rapidshare.com/files/180711026/NeverballPortable_by_Sancas.exe its my new portable
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15:02:29 <Gizmokid2005> hello purple_
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15:05:10 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
15:05:18 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
15:05:30 <SteveLamerton> Hello Gizmokid2005 :)
15:09:58 <SteveLamerton> Nice and quiet I see!
15:10:11 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: of course
15:15:18 <Gizmokid2005> YAY for qemu? When you get bored at work boot up linux! lol
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15:17:03 <SteveLamerton> Sounds good to me :)
15:18:33 <Bensawsome> w00t! no school :D
15:18:43 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: lol
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15:21:22 <ashup> hi
15:21:30 <Gizmokid2005> hello ashup
15:21:35 <Gizmokid2005> is there something we can help you wtih?
15:21:38 <Gizmokid2005> *with
15:22:40 <ashup> may someone know why after adding new apps its shown on the menu, but can execute it,? more than it, after reinsert the flash drive the new apps dose not apear anymore...
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15:26:48 <SteveLamerton> ashup: Not quite sure what you are asking, are your apps vanishing from the menu?
15:28:30 <ashup> yes
15:30:02 <SteveLamerton> Hmmmm, are they still in their folders in the PortableApps folder of your drive?
15:30:31 <ashup> no thay are not, is that the issue?
15:31:09 <SteveLamerton> YEs, did you install them to another path?
15:32:22 <ashup> i had instal tham from my PC to the root dir on my flash drive, but the pacage file stay on my PC
15:36:09 <SteveLamerton> The folders have to be in a certain order for the menu to work, see here for some more info http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
15:37:24 <ashup> Tnx, will try it!!
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15:43:11 <DaveDixonII> How is everyone?
15:43:13 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: can you get to pidgin's developers page?
15:43:18 <Gizmokid2005> hello DaveDixonII, alive
15:43:30 <SteveLamerton> Heya DaveDixonII, snuffly
15:43:42 <DaveDixonII> Lol. I love VNC. :)
15:43:53 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Looks to be down again :)
15:43:59 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh* figures
15:44:10 <Gizmokid2005> I was tryign to see if there was a way to get the musictracker plugin to work with VLC
15:44:17 <Gizmokid2005> since songbird is just major fail lately...:(
15:47:57 <DaveDixonII> sorry for not talking. This lady is ajusting the damn tv like right next to me
15:48:00 <DaveDixonII> O.o
15:48:56 <DaveDixonII> this is awesome. :D
15:49:19 <Gizmokid2005> anybody know how to get the global hotkeys for VLC to work?
15:50:16 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: No idea I am afriad :(
15:50:30 <Gizmokid2005> there used to be a plugin for it...but now I cant find anything :(
15:54:20 <DaveDixonII> gonna go. bbl
15:54:22 <DaveDixonII> ;)
15:55:02 <Gizmokid2005> bye DaveDixonII
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16:07:56 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: if you go the plugins page it works...*shrugs*
16:08:09 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Very odd!
16:08:14 <Gizmokid2005> I know!!
16:08:24 <Gizmokid2005> I think its a coding error with the developer page possibly
16:08:29 <Gizmokid2005> because the output isn't standard
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16:20:30 <Gizmokid2005> well, I didn't get the global hotkeys working yet, but the music tracker is working now :)
16:20:32 <Gizmokid2005> Now Playing: Led Zeppelin - Going To California
16:20:37 <Gizmokid2005> .o lastfm Gizmokid2005
16:20:40 <pabot> Last played All Or Nothing by Theory of a Deadman from the album Scars & Souvenirs - http://www.last.fm/music/Theory+of+a+Deadman/_/All+Or+Nothing
16:20:45 <Gizmokid2005> boo @ lastfm though
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16:30:54 <pabot> SergentSiler is awsome and is the most.... Hey, wait, OMG!!!! PIE!!!! <3
16:31:10 <SergentSiler> yes!!! my net is working at my house again :D
16:31:18 <Gizmokid2005> hello SergentSiler
16:31:22 <SergentSiler> hi Gizmokid2005
16:31:24 <Gizmokid2005> congrats
16:31:43 <SergentSiler> doubt it will hold up if i disconnect for a restart or anything
16:31:57 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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16:35:22 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
16:35:29 <SergentSiler> sup gluxon
16:35:30 <Gizmokid2005> hello gluxon
16:35:40 <gluxon> Hello guys :P
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17:04:27 <Bensawsome> .o lastfm Bensawsome
17:04:30 <pabot> Now playing I Stand Alone by Godsmack from the album Faceless - http://www.last.fm/music/Godsmack/_/I+Stand+Alone
17:04:36 <Gizmokid2005> Now Playing: Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama
17:04:49 <Bensawsome> nice Gizmokid2005 :D
17:05:00 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: musictracker pidgin plugin ftw :)
17:05:04 <Bensawsome> ^_^
17:17:28 <SteveLamerton> Toucan 2.0.4 Pre-Release 1 now out http://portableapps.com/node/17487
17:17:44 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: YAY!1 ;D
17:17:47 <Gizmokid2005> *YAY!! :D
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17:18:38 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
17:18:38 <SteveLamerton> :D Yes, loads of code changes in this version so I figured it would need the testing!
17:18:45 <SteveLamerton> Hello JohnTHaller
17:18:48 <JohnTHaller> hola all
17:18:58 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
17:19:09 <JohnTHaller> TEST RELEASE: Notepad++ Portable 5.1.2 PR1: http://portableapps.com/node/17490
17:19:24 <Gizmokid2005> Wow...two prereleases within minutes :)
17:20:28 <JohnTHaller> steve, if it's that big a rewrite... why not Toucan 2.1?
17:21:11 <SteveLamerton> Because from the users perspective there are virtually none, but it does pave the way for them in 2.1
17:21:34 <SteveLamerton> Changes that is
17:21:39 <JohnTHaller> I could use some testers of N++. It's a big change to the Ansi+Unicode. And it's a new PortableApps.com Installer that adds the ability to use VersionCompare in CustomCode and disables silent installs since they don't currently work right (they miss our drive space checks, options and license page).
17:22:42 <SteveLamerton> Well it just installed and ran the correct version in Vista
17:22:53 * Gizmokid2005 is downloading/installing now JohnTHaller
17:24:08 <JohnTHaller> Good. Oh and the code for handling the Tidy config is all sorts of convoluted now as Notepad++ screwed up in the current release and has binary files in its config directory.
17:24:45 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, looks ok to me, it has renames the old one to ansi fine. And nasty, I can see how that would be very annoying!
17:25:56 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: the installer ran w/o issues as did launching
17:31:00 <SteveLamerton> Time to go guys, I shall be back later or tomorrow
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17:32:22 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I have a question about VLC, got a second?
17:32:26 <JohnTHaller> sure
17:33:06 <Gizmokid2005> the guys at #videolan aren't being very helpful, and I know I've done it before, but I'm tryign to get global hotkeys to work...and they seem to not want to..have you tried/successfully accomplished it, or know of a way?
17:34:03 <JohnTHaller> global hotkeys? i don't use em
17:34:36 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, vlc has the built-in hotkeys for when it has focus, but as soon as it loses focus the hotkeys don't work...
17:38:00 <JohnTHaller> they'
17:38:18 <JohnTHaller> they're in-app hotkeys... not global ones. hardly any apps support global hotkeys and most users don't want em.
17:38:49 <JohnTHaller> it's a very different thing, one extra thing to support and you have to code it per-platform since each OS treats them entirely differently.
17:39:07 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: i know those are in-app hotkeys, but for instance, songbird has global hotkeys for player control, and I figured VLC would as it's also a music player, it's more of a pain to have to switch to the app or move to the mouse, etc to change the song
17:39:17 <Gizmokid2005> I understand it's a lot of coding work...
17:39:43 <JohnTHaller> A lot of coding for for very little result for very few users... so they're probably just not interested.
17:40:11 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, I asked they said someone was working on a merge of a module into it...but I wasn't sure if there was a way to do it...I know it used to work.
17:40:16 <Gizmokid2005> just thought I'd see if you knew how
17:42:59 <JohnTHaller> It's not a matter of knowing how, they have to code it. And then support it ongoing. Why would you need a global hotkey for it anyway?
17:43:59 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: when I'm listening to music I'm usually doing something else, either IMing, gaming, working with databases...and for instance, in full-screen games, it doesn't make sense to have to pause the game to go back to the app to change the song if you want...whereas a global hotkey, just use the combo (alt+n for instance) and the song changes
17:45:03 <JohnTHaller> Ah. Yeah, you're better off using an actual music app since those work with the media keys on windows keyboards. Remember, VLC is primarily a video player.
17:46:16 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: yeah, I understand. I've been using songbird, but I have had some issues with it as of late, stuff that they know about, but isn't fixed yet...and it has been randomly locking up after using 300+MB ram.
17:48:21 <JohnTHaller> Songbird is a bit of a dog. I don't use it locally. And it may be too slow for us to release a portable version.
17:48:47 <JohnTHaller> musikCube is decent and mostly open source (closed source audio converter)
17:48:59 <JohnTHaller> foobar works but is closed
17:49:05 <JohnTHaller> and there's always iTunes, winamp, etc
17:49:36 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, songbird is a bit heavy, it wouldn't be bad if they didn't have to include the browser...it just uses a lot of memory, but I have memory to spare wherever I am, so it's not a huge issue...I just used the test release that was done a while ago, rmccue maybe? from .7 and upgraded to 1.0.
17:49:53 <Gizmokid2005> I want something that's portable and just works.
17:50:04 <Gizmokid2005> songbird has some really nice features, it's got a great UI, and I like how it feels
17:50:27 <JohnTHaller> yeah, the portable one is at 1.0. but it takes like a minute to start up from a very fast flash drive even with an empty database. way longer than GnuCash or OpenOffice.org, etc.
17:51:02 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: yeah, I dont' notice it, because I do use and ext. hdd. it still takes a while, there's no question, plus I have a 7500 song db
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17:52:43 <Gizmokid2005> hello OliverK
17:53:12 <JohnTHaller> Ok, updated to Notepad++ 5.1.3: http://portableapps.com/node/17490
17:54:20 * Gizmokid2005 downloads and installs
17:54:22 <Gizmokid2005> the installer went fine
17:55:07 <Gizmokid2005> as does the launch and exit :)
17:55:29 <Gizmokid2005> so JohnTHaller, any portable suggestions to playing music with global hotkeys, or no ideas?
17:55:39 <OliverK> hello Gizmokid2005 JohnTHaller
17:59:26 <OliverK> guess what I saw on the mentalist last nigh
17:59:28 <OliverK> night*
18:00:33 <JohnTHaller> wha
18:01:17 <OliverK> they were logged into to there super -high tech system, and they were using a IRC Chat system
18:01:34 <Bensawsome> :D
18:01:45 <OliverK> and the program was XChat :D! I think it was in a linux as well, but I'm not sure which one it was
18:02:09 <OliverK> small world I guess :D
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18:03:59 <Gizmokid2005> hello pa_9390, is there something we can help you with?
18:04:27 <pa_9390> hello
18:05:53 <pa_9390> yes i am having major problems with a trojan that is in my work computer. My brother in law suggested portableapps.com to get an anti spyware not anti software downloaded. i looked through your choices and don;t see an antispyware. do you have one i can download?
18:06:17 <Gizmokid2005> pa_9390: the only thing we have even remotely close, is clamwin portable, which is a virus scanner
18:06:25 <Gizmokid2005> we don't have any anti-spyware applications
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18:06:30 <pabot> TimClark wants you to know that as part of an experiment Pabot has been put on his Ignore list and as such can not be used to show him stuff [wik,g,o, twits, etc]
18:07:00 <pa_9390> ok any other ideas?
18:07:09 <JohnTHaller> CCleaner has a portable version on their site you can also use. It works with PortableApps.com Platform.
18:07:16 <Gizmokid2005> I dont' have any, not from our standpoint. TimClark should though
18:07:28 <TimClark> clamwin might be able to tell you what you have , but i would not use it to do the actual cleaning
18:08:02 <pa_9390> thank you john i will see what ccleaner has. thank you everyone
18:08:22 <Gizmokid2005> no problem pa_9390, anything else we can help you with?
18:08:34 <pa_9390> no thanks bye
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18:08:41 <TimClark> ccleaner really is intended to clean out old "crap", not really infections
18:08:56 <JohnTHaller> ack... I meant spybot
18:11:43 <TimClark> i was just checking the logs and saw the question, and thought i might help, i'm at work and in the midst so am really not available right now
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18:19:43 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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18:23:52 <OliverK> alright, i'm stuffing off and going home, later guys
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18:23:56 <pabot> SergentSiler is awsome and is the most.... Hey, wait, OMG!!!! PIE!!!! <3
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18:24:13 <SergentSiler> yay! my net is working again
18:24:26 <Gizmokid2005> SergentSiler: yay?
18:24:29 <Gizmokid2005> comcast! :D
18:24:40 <SergentSiler> my net cut out before
18:24:50 <SergentSiler> and i am on my lappie now and it is working
18:25:48 <SergentSiler> .tell ptmb my net is iffy today but i will be on as it allows
18:25:49 <pabot> SergentSiler: I'll pass that on when I next see ptmb.
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18:27:52 <TimClarkIsAway> SergentSiler: you do know that unless you Really want all of us to see your .tells you can send them privately in PM with pabot
18:28:11 <SergentSiler> yes
18:28:17 <SergentSiler> i know TimClarkIsAway
18:29:01 <SergentSiler> just like i can do the .seen 's and the .t and all of that
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18:34:27 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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18:41:02 <SergentSiler> JTH was here?
18:41:06 <Gizmokid2005> SergentSiler: yup
18:41:20 <SergentSiler> and i missed him :/
18:41:31 <Gizmokid2005> SergentSiler: yup
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19:18:45 <Bensawsome> hey guys you think it is ok to defragment a portabnle hard drive >_>
19:19:46 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: you don't have to
19:19:48 <Gizmokid2005> well wait
19:19:54 <Gizmokid2005> is it flash or actual disk?
19:19:59 <Bensawsome> disk
19:20:08 <Gizmokid2005> THEN IT'S FINE
19:20:09 <Bensawsome> its jusxt like a regular hard drive...
19:20:11 <Bensawsome> lol ok
19:20:12 <Gizmokid2005> sorry about the caps
19:20:16 <Gizmokid2005> as long as it's not flash
19:20:21 <Bensawsome> ok >_>
19:20:34 <Bensawsome> gawsh your so mean Gizmokid2005 T_T yelling at me T_T ;)
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19:20:51 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.co.cc. He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.co.cc
19:20:52 <Bensawsome> woops >_>
19:21:01 <Bensawsome> wrong button >_>
19:21:21 <Bensawsome> well defragging now.... >_>
19:21:29 <Bensawsome> not the portable 0one
19:21:32 <Bensawsome> the nromal one
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19:26:46 <pabot> excid3 is lead dev of Keryx, computer security phreak and hosts a blog at http://excid3.betaserver.org
19:34:36 <Bensawsome> hey excid3 :)
19:34:54 <excid3> afternoon Bensawsome
19:35:10 <Bensawsome> hmmmmm anyone know of like a survey info compiler >_>
19:35:26 <Bensawsome> i have my senior project and part of it was a survey....
19:35:43 <SergentSiler> :P
19:35:45 <Bensawsome> i think im gonna just use Numbers.... but it would be awesome if there was a dedicated survey program >_>
19:35:58 <excid3> Bensawsome: pen and paper
19:36:04 <Bensawsome> excid3 :P
19:36:04 <SergentSiler> well i am sure there is something like that
19:36:16 <Bensawsome> ya prbly... but i dont have the time to findi t now :'(
19:36:26 <SergentSiler> Bensawsome: u can probably use OOo to do it as long as u have numbers
19:36:52 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler lol nope :S i mean I use the PROGRAM Numbers.... part of the iWork suite ^_^
19:36:57 <DaveDixonII> SergentSiler: You left. :P
19:37:03 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: numbers = fun :D
19:37:08 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 YES ^_^
19:37:14 <Gizmokid2005> :D
19:37:16 <SergentSiler> DaveDixonII: ?
19:37:31 <DaveDixonII> SergentSiler: <SergentSiler> sup all
19:37:31 <DaveDixonII> ;)
19:37:42 <SergentSiler> that was like 2 hours ago
19:37:55 <DaveDixonII> I noticed. ;)
19:37:56 <Bensawsome> lol.... i have 5 remote desktop sessions open and they all computers in my house XD
19:38:08 <DaveDixonII> :/
19:38:10 <SergentSiler> DaveDixonII: my net cut a few mins after that
19:39:29 <DaveDixonII> Ah
19:39:57 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I need a mac app that handles .7z files
19:39:58 <Gizmokid2005> name?
19:40:30 <SergentSiler> i got one
19:40:32 <SergentSiler> windows :D
19:40:48 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 ummmmmmm stuffit?
19:40:54 <Bensawsome> hmmmm wait not sure though >_>
19:41:15 * Bensawsome punches SergentSiler for suggesting that
19:41:23 <SergentSiler> :P
19:41:26 <DaveDixonII> Bensawsome: be nice
19:41:39 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/19139
19:41:40 <Bensawsome> ^_^
19:41:45 <Bensawsome> ez7z
19:42:03 <Bensawsome> i remember that... i tried it a while ago its pretty good ^_^
19:45:02 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 OMG i love numbers! you can sort the columns :D
19:45:09 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: lol yeah
19:45:18 <SergentSiler> DaveDixonII: reconnected
19:45:18 <Bensawsome> this is my first time using it so.....
19:53:00 <DaveDixonII> I was the only one who tweeted in 9 hrs
19:53:02 <DaveDixonII> :/
19:53:50 <SergentSiler> lol
19:55:03 <Sancas_> jey DaveDixonII look the neverball portable in mi blog is 100% legal
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19:55:05 <Sancas_> yeah!
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19:57:56 <DaveDixonII> Gizmokid2005: You there?
19:58:08 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII: yeah, whatcha need?
19:58:10 <DaveDixonII> PM?
19:58:14 <Gizmokid2005> sure
19:58:44 <DaveDixonII> msg Gizmokid2005 If someone makes an open source app portable they have to provide their source? and if the app is freeware they dont have to?
19:59:03 <DaveDixonII> My pm isn't working. xChat for that matter
19:59:09 <DaveDixonII> Figured that out at school
19:59:11 <DaveDixonII> Oh well
19:59:35 <DaveDixonII> I though i erased the msg crap. :/
19:59:44 <Gizmokid2005> I'm actually not 100% sure on that...john would be a better person to ask, but I believe that's how it goes
19:59:59 <DaveDixonII> Okay
20:02:00 <DaveDixonII> Sancas_: ¿Tienes el source de la autoid en la descarga?
20:02:18 <Sancas_> si
20:03:21 <Sancas_> its the rules for accept the license GPL
20:03:32 <DaveDixonII> Soy okay con que descarga. ;)
20:03:55 <DaveDixonII> Brb
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20:06:15 <Gizmokid2005> hello KevinPorter
20:06:46 <KevinPorter> Afternoon Gizmokid2005. :)
20:06:55 <Gizmokid2005> how are you today/
20:06:57 <Gizmokid2005> *?
20:07:16 <KevinPorter> Eh, a little miffed at this point.
20:07:26 <DaveDixonII> ?
20:07:32 <KevinPorter> .dict miffed
20:07:34 <pabot> miffed - 1. in a snit
20:07:41 <DaveDixonII> ?
20:07:41 <KevinPorter> i.e. I'm pissed. :P
20:07:47 <excid3> .dict snit
20:07:49 <pabot> snit - 1. fit of temper
20:07:56 <excid3> :P
20:07:57 <DaveDixonII> Why not just say that sheesh. :P
20:07:59 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter: why?
20:08:00 <Bensawsome> poor KevinPorter :(
20:08:07 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII: because it doesn't sound good
20:08:10 <Gizmokid2005> miffed sounds intelligent :)
20:08:12 <Bensawsome> what wrong KevinPorter?
20:08:14 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 lol yep
20:08:25 <KevinPorter> Heh. There's just this obnoxious little kid at my school.
20:08:33 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter: gotta love 'em....NOT
20:08:37 <Bensawsome> hey Gizmokid2005 you know how numbers has the header column and row >_>
20:08:43 <DaveDixonII> Gizmokid2005: Sounding intelligent and pissed and the same time is normal? :P
20:08:51 <Gizmokid2005> DaveDixonII: for KevinPorter and I? yes
20:08:53 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid2005: Oh, yeah. And I think this guy is about 10 years behind in maturity.
20:08:54 <Bensawsome> i wanna get rid of the header column because it not needed in this case >_>
20:08:54 <DaveDixonII> Ok
20:08:56 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yeah
20:09:03 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I'm not sure how, I don't use it...:(
20:09:11 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter: LMAO...those are the most irritating
20:09:31 <KevinPorter> Yep.
20:10:01 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 dang :(
20:10:13 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: sorry :(
20:10:27 <Bensawsome> eh its ok ;)
20:10:55 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 i wanna get iwork 09 now :D it would be nice to use the could thing with that :D
20:11:15 <KevinPorter> Pssh. iWork.
20:11:58 <Gizmokid2005> lol
20:12:03 <Gizmokid2005> I'm reinstalling my mac tomorrow probably
20:12:13 <Gizmokid2005> I can get all the setups I need from work, since i have keys for everythign
20:12:15 <Gizmokid2005> *everything
20:15:38 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 :)
20:15:49 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: :) yup
20:15:53 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 so did you ever find that article i mentioned?
20:16:02 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: didn't look that hard
20:16:07 <Bensawsome> :( ok
20:16:25 <Gizmokid2005> my only problem that I had was backing up MS office and Parallels
20:16:31 <Gizmokid2005> everything else I can get setups for, or it's free
20:19:08 <Bensawsome> oh oh Gizmokid2005! i think i found it :D
20:19:14 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: ?
20:19:16 <Bensawsome> omgomgomgomghomg :D
20:19:19 <Bensawsome> the article :D
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20:19:33 <Gizmokid2005> lol
20:20:40 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2324613,00.asp
20:20:45 <Bensawsome> maybe it wasnt on lifehacker :S
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20:20:53 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
20:20:54 <Bensawsome> hey PatrickPatience
20:21:12 <ptmb> Hi PatrickPatience!
20:21:20 <PatrickPatience> Hi?
20:21:21 <Gizmokid2005> thanks Bensawsome
20:21:24 <Gizmokid2005> hello PatrickPatience
20:21:26 <Bensawsome> ty Gizmokid2005 ^_^
20:21:31 <Bensawsome> err np
20:21:32 <Bensawsome> lol
20:23:25 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: a decent article I suppose...easy enough though
20:23:28 <Gizmokid2005> :D
20:23:40 <Gizmokid2005> macs are so much easier to reformat than pc...at least the restore process
20:24:19 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 yep ^_^
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20:24:34 <Gizmokid2005> boo@fat32 :(
20:24:34 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
20:24:37 <Gizmokid2005> hello markomlm
20:24:43 <Bensawsome> hey markomlm :)
20:24:47 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 ya true dat :S
20:25:19 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yeah...my ext. hdd is formatted as such so my mac can use my ext hdd....but I just created a 5GB Qemu image file...not realizing that it wouldn't fit on my hdd...:( *sigh*
20:26:56 <Bensawsome> :S
20:27:01 <Bensawsome> sucks......
20:27:16 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 there are third party things which allow you to use ntfs with the mac :D
20:27:51 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 you know how im gonna set up my stuff? i do boot camp, then make 2 60 gb partitions and whatever is left into a third ntfs partition
20:28:20 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yes there are, but they aren't reliable
20:28:26 <Gizmokid2005> must be nice
20:28:27 <Bensawsome> and then setup firefox, songbird, and anything else that supports custom profile locations onto that 3 partition
20:28:32 <Gizmokid2005> I only have 80GB on my laptop :(
20:28:33 <PatrickPatience> Oh boy: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/01/steve-jobs-disc.html
20:28:35 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 :(
20:28:48 <Bensawsome> i getting the 320 gb 7200 rpm hard drive :D
20:29:45 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I need a bigger one
20:30:02 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 dont we all....
20:30:06 <Gizmokid2005> LMFAO
20:30:09 <Bensawsome> oh! Gizmokid2005 i figurded out the column thing :D
20:30:10 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I meant HDD :P
20:30:14 <Bensawsome> LOL
20:30:17 <Gizmokid2005> and I have plenty of space on my desktop and server
20:30:19 <Bensawsome> yes i know!!!!
20:30:20 <Gizmokid2005> just not my laptop
20:30:31 <KevinPorter> PatrickPatience: That really tells me nothing. We've known about Jobs' health problems, we know he's a vegan, and we know Apple is transitioning to a post-Jobs era.
20:30:34 <Gizmokid2005> if only I could put my 400GB I have in it...but a 3.5" hdd won't really fit
20:31:24 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 that would be kewl ^)^
20:31:33 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I know
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20:32:02 <KevinPorter> Hi froussil. Can we help you?
20:32:03 <Bensawsome> hellp froussil need anything?
20:32:33 <PatrickPatience> KevinPorter: Uhu... I just feel bad for the guy. The fact that he may he will likely be gone from the company soon is besides the point.
20:33:45 <KevinPorter> PatrickPatience: Oh, I'm not saying that I don't care about his health. Actually, I was kind of worried when I read that his hormone problems are symptoms of reoccurance of the cancer.
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20:35:20 <Bensawsome> oh nice guys... dont help him ;D
20:35:23 <Bensawsome> lol jk :P
20:35:38 <KevinPorter> :P
20:35:46 <KevinPorter> I blame it on Bensawsome.
20:35:55 * Bensawsome eats KevinPorter
20:35:58 <Bensawsome> NOM NOM NOM NOM
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20:36:02 <DOMO> NOM!
20:36:13 <KevinPorter> Oh, no. Oh, please no.
20:36:18 <DOMO> XD
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20:36:31 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
20:36:46 <Gizmokid2005> welcome back JohnTHaller
20:36:49 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: VirtualDub Portable 1.8.8: http://portableapps.com/news/2008-01-07_-_virtualdub_portable_1.8.8
20:36:51 <JohnTHaller> hi again
20:37:09 * KevinPorter updates VirtualDub.
20:37:27 <ptmb> Hi JohnTHaller! And I'm going to din now, I'll be back later
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20:39:32 <DOMO> nice JohnTHaller :D
20:39:39 * DOMO high fives JohnTHaller ^_^
20:39:53 * DOMO also updates virtualdub
20:39:55 <DOMO> :D
20:40:46 <KevinPorter> DOMO should switch his nick back too. :P
20:41:22 <DOMO> oh fine :(
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20:41:29 <Bensawsome> :'(
20:41:38 <KevinPorter> Heh.
20:41:51 * Gizmokid2005 will brb
20:44:36 <PatrickPatience> Oh boy: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/professed-twitt.html
20:44:44 <PatrickPatience> "Cracking the site was easy, because Twitter allowed an unlimited number of rapid-fire log-in attempts. "
20:45:20 <KevinPorter> I'm surprised their servers didn't crash after the first ten tries.
20:45:37 <Bensawsome> wow.... fail....
20:46:04 <KevinPorter> I guess you guys weren't around during the dark days of Twitter.
20:46:08 <Bensawsome> all you need is 200 playstion 3s......
20:46:12 <Bensawsome> XD
20:46:36 <KevinPorter> Lol.
20:50:30 <ptmb> I'm back
20:52:07 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: PortableApps.com Installer 0.10.5: http://portableapps.com/node/14939
20:53:19 <Mir> hey JohnTHaller
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20:53:31 <JohnTHaller> CHANGELOG: http://portableapps.com/node/14939#comment-108337
20:53:33 <JohnTHaller> Hi Mir
20:54:12 <Sancas_> JohnTHaller, are you the John that he invet portableapps??????
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20:54:28 <Bensawsome> nice :D
20:54:32 <sancas> O.o
20:54:40 <sancas> :O
20:54:40 <sancas> OMG
20:54:40 <sancas> jajajaajaj
20:55:15 <sancas> jey DaveDixonII DaveDixonII DaveDixonII DaveDixonII da
20:55:23 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, why?
20:55:28 <sancas> DaveDixonII DaveDixonII DaveDixonII DaveDixonII john is this this this
20:55:31 <sancas> john this
20:55:32 <sancas> omg
20:55:40 * Mir smells a troll
20:55:45 <Mir> <.<
20:55:55 * PatrickPatience smells a kick?
20:56:02 * KevinPorter does too.
20:56:03 <Mir> ;)
20:56:03 <PatrickPatience> JohnTHaller: VersionCompare should be handy, thanks.
20:56:07 <KevinPorter> Rather an odiferious smell, eh?
20:57:03 <JohnTHaller> PatrickPatience: Yeah, I used it in Notepad++ to handle the split into Ansi vs Unicode within the App directory. Makes it very easy to check.
20:57:15 <PatrickPatience> Nice.
20:57:45 <JohnTHaller> surprised no one asked for it earlier
20:57:53 <sancas> JohnTHaller, I do not speak English I speak Spanish so my English is bad so my apologies JohnTHaller can i talk you john??
20:58:30 <JohnTHaller> What can I do for you?
20:59:41 <sancas> maybe it sounds a little selfish and annoying so I apologize if so
21:00:02 <Mir> JohnTHaller: remeber the nordic saying written in Dutch "voed niet de sleeplijnen"
21:00:03 <sancas> i need edit you apps menu application
21:00:14 <JohnTHaller> Edit it how?
21:01:12 <sancas> I have a menu for my web john
21:01:24 <sancas> I also do just that with portable AutoIt, not NSIS like your whole company
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21:01:30 <pabot> excid3 is lead dev of Keryx, computer security phreak and hosts a blog at http://excid3.betaserver.org
21:01:50 <JohnTHaller> for your website you mean? what's the website?
21:02:14 <sancas> www.prograsancas.com
21:03:00 <sancas> I've been studying your portable, I think for the moment nothing else can edit it, but ... I do not want it
21:03:21 <sancas> Also, my intention is not to steal your company, and although I could not
21:04:01 <sancas> now I'm learning a little if you have delphi achieving edit menu
21:04:36 <JohnTHaller> well, you are free to use the code under the GPL. but as you're essentially doing a competing site and I noticed at least one illegally packaged app (Skype), we wouldn't be interested in assisting.
21:04:37 <Mir> JohnTHaller: do you know spanish?
21:04:39 <Bensawsome> sancas: some of your portableapps on your site are illegal i think :S
21:04:53 <Bensawsome> like this one: http://www.prograsancas.com/2008/11/counter-strike-16-vsancas-portable.html
21:05:03 <sancas> Bensawsome, yeah yeah
21:05:03 <sancas> but
21:05:14 <sancas> i am in process for all posted are legals
21:05:21 <sancas> look the neverball please
21:05:22 <Mir> bitcomet is GPL'd?
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21:05:55 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
21:05:57 <Bensawsome> well either way sancas you have illegal apps up their :S
21:06:20 <sancas> comon man i am in process dont attack me
21:06:24 <sancas> :(
21:06:27 <Mir> we arnt
21:06:42 <sancas> i am only have 15 years old mi life that start
21:07:05 <JohnTHaller> sancas, we
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21:07:13 <Bensawsome> ya im not trying to im just telling you so you canremove them.........
21:07:20 <Bensawsome> *can remove
21:07:20 <JohnTHaller> we're not attacking you. We're just pointing out that you are, in fact, breaking the law. And you should stop.
21:08:33 <sancas> JohnTHaller, yeah yeah yeah as I'm in the process of legalization
21:08:34 <Mir> El software en PortableApps.com están todo libre y OpenSource debajo del GNU GLP. <-- sorry is this is bad. i use babble fish instead of taking a calss
21:08:44 <Mir> class
21:09:08 <Bensawsome> too bad DaveDixonII isnt here.....
21:09:12 <JohnTHaller> Process of? Just remove all the illegal stuff. It'll take 2 minutes.
21:09:38 <sancas> i am not remove i am repare for has been legal
21:10:12 <Bensawsome> you can't make them legal.......
21:10:12 <ptmb> sancas, please, go to the blogger settings and post them as drafts instead so people wont see the illegal apps until they are legal
21:10:42 <sancas> ok
21:10:43 <ptmb> when they are legal, just publish them instead of saving them asd drafts
21:10:54 <Bensawsome> well any paid apps arent legal......
21:11:27 <ptmb> if he has specific authorization in written from the software company it is :P
21:12:10 <Bensawsome> well yes but i highly doubt you are gonna get one from the counter strike company :S
21:12:17 <sancas> ok ok i am edit the blog
21:13:01 <excid3> Bensawsome: you mean Valve
21:13:07 <excid3> :)
21:13:30 <Bensawsome> excid3 yes :P
21:13:36 <Bensawsome> i couldnt remember their name :S
21:14:10 <sancas> can they help me?
21:14:34 <Gizmokid2005> sancas: they would be the ones to give you permission to make CS1.6 portable
21:14:50 <sancas> no no no
21:14:50 <excid3> I'm sure that they would be completely against it, but you can try contacting them. http://steampowered.com
21:14:57 <sancas> good yes yes
21:15:00 <sancas> but wait wait
21:15:14 <Bensawsome> wait doesnt cs use steam?
21:15:24 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yes, but steam's parent company is valve
21:15:31 <excid3> it used to not require it
21:15:32 <sancas> I want to know if the process I am doing with this portable for legalization well, someone can help me?
21:15:49 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 no i mean the program.....
21:15:51 <Bensawsome> Steam
21:15:57 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yes
21:16:02 <JohnTHaller> Not really. And I can pretty much guarantee that all of those compies like Valve and Skype will say no.
21:16:03 <sancas> in my people not are money and we used no steam
21:16:05 <Gizmokid2005> for online play
21:16:07 <Bensawsome> and in order for cs not to use steam it would have to be changed :S
21:16:09 <sancas> no steam = not buy nothing
21:16:49 <sancas> comon mans
21:17:06 <Bensawsome> sancas you still have to use steam to buy coutyner strike.....
21:18:32 <sancas> anyone can download the program that is portable Neverball on my website and answer the following questions:
21:19:00 <sancas> 1. its legal?
21:19:11 <sancas> 2. if not legal what missing?
21:19:38 <Bensawsome> sancas: anything that you have to pay for which you do not have specific permission from the company to make is illegal
21:19:50 <Bensawsome> and in order to make it not legal you have to ask the compnaies if you can
21:20:05 <Bensawsome> which it is almost guarenteed that they wopnt give you permission
21:20:09 <Bensawsome> *wont
21:20:28 <JohnTHaller> anything that you don't have permission for is illegal, free or paid. most open source software gives you that permission in the license provided you distribute the source and other conditions.
21:20:49 <Bensawsome> what john said ><
21:21:05 <sancas> JohnTHaller, i am add the source in never ball
21:21:17 <sancas> but i dont know that this portable is legal
21:21:18 <sancas> comon mans please
21:21:33 <sancas> download this program and help me
21:21:57 <Bensawsome> sancas: if it is open source and you include the source of the app it is legal
21:22:10 <Bensawsome> but closed source apps like counter strike are illegal
21:22:11 <sancas> i am never but never are legalize that program
21:22:32 <sancas> i O.o
21:22:58 <sancas> i am add the source and the licence GPL in neverball portable, is this legal???
21:23:08 <Bensawsome> yes it is
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21:23:43 <sancas> O.o
21:24:39 <sancas> in other words i am use that example for legalize at VLCPortable that apps
21:25:05 <sancas> so okay?
21:25:16 <Bensawsome> that app is okay
21:25:25 <JohnTHaller> Is there some reason you're reinventing the wheel and redoing all the work we've already done?
21:26:09 <sancas> dont understand jphn
21:26:09 <sancas> john
21:26:23 <sancas>
21:26:23 <sancas> as well?
21:26:27 <sancas> hay se jue
21:26:35 <JohnTHaller> why do what we have already finished?
21:27:39 <sancas> have already finished??
21:27:50 <Bensawsome> sancas why are you redoing all the apps which portableapps.com has already done
21:27:52 <sancas> you talk about vlc?
21:28:01 <ptmb> Yes, the PortableApps.com site already has VLC Portable a long time ago
21:28:15 <sancas> no no no
21:28:26 <sancas> i am not create that vlc
21:28:27 <sancas> oh man
21:28:31 <sancas> they dont understand
21:29:19 <sancas> but legalize my's portables i am not understand the proccess for this
21:29:33 <Bensawsome> First: they must be open source
21:29:35 <sancas> and for this i am using your vlc for legalize mi portables dont understand?
21:29:51 <sancas> Bensawsome, GPL license?
21:29:59 <Bensawsome> yes
21:30:03 <sancas> ok
21:30:06 <sancas> what more?
21:30:21 <Bensawsome> and you must include the source of that app with the portableapp
21:31:38 <sancas> ok ok
21:31:43 <Gizmokid2005> I'm off everyone, take care!
21:31:44 <sancas> and i need incluite the copy that gpl licence??
21:31:53 <sancas> see you later
21:32:03 <Gizmokid2005> bye JohnTHaller, KevinPorter, PatrickPatience, DaveDixonII, Bensawsome, Mir, sancas
21:32:13 <ptmb> bye Gizmokid2005
21:32:23 <Bensawsome> cya Gizmokid2005 >_>
21:33:25 <ptmb> JohnTHaller, I'd like to talk about the allowed tags on forum posts on the site. The <u> tag is deprecated from what I know of, and isn't very widelly used, so I think we should remove it
21:34:08 <sancas> jey Bensawsome i need incluite copy that GPL license?
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21:34:34 <ptmb> Yes sancas, you need to include a copy of the GPL license with the app
21:34:38 <Bensawsome> ty ptmb :S
21:34:45 <sancas> ok
21:34:55 <sancas> only this??
21:34:57 <sancas> no more?
21:35:05 <Bensawsome> yes
21:35:10 <sancas> the source code and gpl license copy
21:35:15 <sancas> and no more?
21:35:15 <ptmb> the the original application's source too (or at least a link to it)
21:35:30 <ptmb> I meant "and the original..."
21:35:55 <JohnTHaller> if you link to it, you have to be hosting it youself... you can't link to our or another company's copy of the source
21:36:44 <sancas> as well JohnTHaller ????
21:36:54 <sancas> i cant use rapidshare?
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21:37:23 <Bensawsome> no you cant
21:37:28 <DaveDixonII> for half an hr
21:37:29 <sancas> O.o
21:37:31 <Bensawsome> sancas also people hate rapidshare, it would be better to host it yourself
21:37:47 <DaveDixonII> Whats going on?
21:37:49 <ptmb> there are cheap, or even free hosts available online
21:37:50 <Bensawsome> i myself loath when people give me a link to rapidshare......
21:38:19 <sancas> oh man
21:38:19 <JohnTHaller> I think you can use RapidShare. But you must ensure that the source code is available for the entire time that the app is and then 3 years after the app is taken down. And you must host every version of the source in the same way.
21:38:58 <ptmb> It is easier to just provide the source with the app sancas, at least for simple stuff like your's
21:38:59 <Bensawsome> which cant really be ensured with rapidshare because they delete your file if no one has used it in 90 days :S
21:39:10 <DaveDixonII> sigh
21:39:19 <JohnTHaller> so if you release Acme 1.2 today. you need to host the source for Acme 1.2 today. If next year you take down Acme 1.2 and put up Acme 1.3, you need to also host the source for 1.3 and continue to host the source of 1.2 for a period of 3 years after you take 1.2 down.
21:39:59 <sancas> Bensawsome, the days not import mi application always download dont worry for the time
21:40:13 <Bensawsome> sancas huh?
21:40:19 <DaveDixonII> Hello?
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21:40:34 <sancas> hi DaveDixonII
21:40:41 <ptmb> Hi DaveDixonII, we are helping sancas to package GPL apps correctly
21:40:48 <sancas> jajajaja
21:40:49 <DaveDixonII> hi.
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21:41:25 <DaveDixonII> JohnTHaller: Whats the issue with freeware? Is that allowed just with the source code of your launcher or not?
21:41:34 <TimClark> DaveDixonII: http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/?t=2009-01-07#T20-54-12
21:41:58 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: Support is happening.
21:42:19 <TimClark> yes, and i'm trying to get you caught up dave without too many questions
21:42:42 <DaveDixonII> I've been scrolling up. But please not here.
21:42:43 <ptmb> DaveDixonII, TimClark is giving you a link to the logs so you can see what happened before you logged in, as he said
21:42:44 <sancas> O.o
21:42:47 <JohnTHaller> DaveDixonII: We don't want to host launchers-only right now as it's an inconvenience to end users. We'll be doing freeware with permission once we have hosting.
21:43:24 <DaveDixonII> JohnTHaller: But is it legal though to just post the launcher for a freeware app?
21:43:43 <JohnTHaller> It's legal. We just won't release them as official atm
21:43:52 <DaveDixonII> Okay.
21:45:36 <sancas> i am legal?? :)
21:46:08 <DaveDixonII> No. Just your recent app i think
21:46:35 <sancas> :(
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21:49:06 <DaveDixonII> sancas: Necesitas eliminar sus otros aplicaciones, pero no NeverBall.
21:49:22 <sancas> DaveDixonII, ahorita estoy solo posteando las q ya he hecho legales
21:49:45 <sancas> todas las que ves por el momento en www.prograsancas.com ya tienen agregado el codigo fuente y la licencia GPL
21:50:53 <DaveDixonII> todos las aplicaciones son OSS?
21:51:24 <ptmb> muy bueno sancas, se todas las applicaciones en tu site son OSS, enton tu no estas quebrando nignunas regras
21:51:40 <sancas> DaveDixonII, por el momento si
21:51:44 <DaveDixonII> sancas: ok
21:52:03 <sancas> ahorita estoy viendo cuales no son software libres para ver q puedo hacer
21:52:15 <sancas> por ejemplo el aimp ya pedi permiso para distribuirlo estoy esperando respues
21:52:22 <sancas> aaaaaaa
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21:52:54 <sancas> oh man
21:53:01 <sancas> le queria dar las gracias x el cool player
21:53:02 <sancas> se jue
21:53:33 <DaveDixonII> Lol
21:54:32 <DaveDixonII> He should be good now that everything is open source and he is including his source code.
21:55:12 <KevinPorter> I have no idea what was said, but okay.
21:56:25 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: el traductor es allí por tú. :P
21:56:37 <DaveDixonII> Anywho. I'll bbl
21:57:44 <DaveDixonII> Wait a second
21:57:49 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: You take spanish! :P
21:58:04 <KevinPorter> Not anymore. It was only during the first quarter.
21:58:11 <KevinPorter> I don't really know what you'd call that.
21:59:23 <DaveDixonII> Maybe i should scan my whole book for you. :P Jk
22:00:24 <KevinPorter> Heh.
22:00:29 <DaveDixonII> bbl
22:02:45 <sancas> oh man
22:02:52
22:03:00 <sancas> ya me imagino cuanto me llevara terminar los 30
22:04:08 <Bensawsome> well that is the sacrifice you have to make if you dont wanna get arrested........
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22:07:16 <Bensawsome> hey rmccue :)
22:07:19 <KevinPorter> Morning rmccue. ;)
22:07:31 <rmccue> Morn'.
22:07:31 <ptmb> Hi rmccue!
22:07:40 <Bensawsome> hey rmccue you know how to run multiple instances of phenny on one computer?
22:07:49 <rmccue> Bensawsome: Yes, just do it :P
22:07:52 <Bensawsome> .....
22:08:11 <Bensawsome> didnt work....
22:08:28 <rmccue> Bensawsome: Run them as different users, or I believe you can pass a command line parameter to point to the config file.
22:08:29 <Bensawsome> all you would really have to do is change the folder it used to store its settings >_>
22:08:36 <Bensawsome> :D
22:08:48 <Bensawsome> rmccue would you happen to know that command line parameter >_>
22:08:55 <rmccue> -config? :P
22:08:58 <Bensawsome> rmccue orly?
22:08:59 <Bensawsome> lol
22:09:04 <Bensawsome> DOH!
22:09:07 <Bensawsome> ty :)
22:09:21 <rmccue> Tehe.
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22:27:33 <ptmb> bye, gonna go
22:27:39 <Bensawsome> cya ptmb >_>
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