IRC Log from 2009-02-02

00:01:31 *** Gizmokid2005 (n=Gizmokid@75-128-116-166.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) has joined #portableapps
00:02:33 <Gizmokid2005> first off, hallo everyone :)
00:02:35 <Gizmokid2005> (yeah, I realize my other nick is still here)
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00:03:07 <TimClark> hello gizmokid2005
00:03:23 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark, PatrickPatience, DaveDixonII, MaienM, onestoploser, et al
00:04:34 <Gizmokid2005> I need some opinions/experiences....I'm half-looking at building a new machine, and I want opinions on Mobo makers
00:04:44 <Mir> Giz Wiz :D
00:04:46 <Mir> \o/
00:04:50 <Mir> ^o^
00:04:52 <MaienM> hello Gizmokid2005
00:04:56 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: lol :P
00:07:49 <Gizmokid2005> no opinions?
00:08:23 <TimClark> sorry gizmokid2005, babe in the woods here
00:08:31 <MaienM> I'd go for geforce myself
00:08:36 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: I knew you were...but there has to be some others around here lol
00:08:40 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: for the mobo maker?
00:08:47 <MaienM> yes
00:08:50 <Gizmokid2005> or are you referencing chipset?
00:09:15 <MaienM> as mobo maker (I think...)
00:09:35 <MaienM> it caries their name, so I assume they made it :P
00:09:43 <Mir> Gizmokid2005: ASUS or INTEL
00:10:00 <PatrickPatience> Heya.
00:10:06 <Mir> hello
00:10:18 <Mir> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/internetstooserious.jpg
00:10:19 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: I've got an asus board now, and I've never seen a board made by intel, the few ASUS boards I've seen arent' anything impressive
00:10:30 <Gizmokid2005> by any means...for the socket I'm looking at
00:10:46 <Mir> get one that is a full TOWER board
00:10:57 <Mir> usualy they are the best in upgrades
00:11:00 * Bensawsome thinks gizmokid2005 should get another mac :P
00:11:00 <Gizmokid2005> I always by ATX
00:11:14 * Bensawsome chuckles
00:11:16 <Mir> like 128GB ram @_@ and 4X quadcores
00:11:22 * Gizmokid2005 thinks Bensawsome should just be quiet unless ALL my games will run on Mac and I can use my current gpu/etcf
00:11:24 <Gizmokid2005> *etc
00:11:32 * Mir dies at the tought
00:11:36 *** SrgSiler|Rev3 is now known as SrgSiler|AFK
00:11:41 * Bensawsome says gizmokid2005 should use bootcamp/parellels :P
00:12:09 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: still, I can't move any of my hardware then...I need 3 sata drives, plus 2 DVD burners, plus GPU upgradeability
00:12:15 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: that would rock
00:12:23 <Bensawsome> gizmokid2005: MAC PRO :D
00:12:26 <Bensawsome> lol
00:12:26 <Gizmokid2005> I'm looking at these two CPUs - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103472
00:12:30 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103250
00:12:36 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I'm not spending over $2k on a computer
00:12:38 <Gizmokid2005> sorry
00:12:42 <Bensawsome> lol ;)
00:12:57 <Bensawsome> mac pro is probably the most customizable mac though :D
00:13:30 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yes, but still way too expensive for what I'm doing...I'll build this pc for less than $700
00:13:36 <Bensawsome> ya i know ;)
00:14:09 <Mir> Gizmokid2005: get this --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182155
00:14:11 <Mir> :D
00:14:12 <Mir> <3
00:14:15 <Mir> :D
00:14:16 <Bensawsome> gizmokid2005: then one big tip to save about 100 dollars: DONT USE WINDOWS XD
00:14:24 <excid3> my friend works at a tv station, they just got approved for a $78,000 server
00:14:27 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I'm using my current install
00:14:32 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: LMFAO, you are crazy
00:14:33 <Bensawsome> ok good ;)
00:15:00 <Bensawsome> LOL
00:15:27 <Mir> no i am not
00:15:31 <Mir> you need that
00:15:44 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: yes you are. I don't NEED a server board to play games
00:15:45 <Gizmokid2005> lol
00:15:53 <Bensawsome> ya you do :P
00:15:55 <Bensawsome> lol
00:16:19 <Mir> Why play games when you'd have the power to MAKE them and even host them once they are made :D
00:16:30 <Mir> think of it
00:16:39 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: because that defeats the purpose of gaming for fun :P
00:16:50 <Gizmokid2005> so far, the only board I've found so far that I like is this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128376
00:16:52 <Mir> you might be able to play Halo Wars at 3000FPS
00:16:54 <Gizmokid2005> and hello PatrickPatience, you are quiet
00:17:31 <Mir> if the server board up thar fits in the Dell case i am gonna get it
00:17:36 <Mir> >:D
00:17:48 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: you do that...that would be half my budget, and I'm nto blowing that on a board
00:17:52 <Gizmokid2005> I'll spend MAX $150 on a board
00:18:01 <Gizmokid2005> I have more leeway in this build because I'm keeping my GPU
00:18:41 <Bensawsome> if i went to biuld my own comp... i would pimp it out :D
00:18:49 <Bensawsome> liquid cooling system
00:18:53 <Bensawsome> awsome lights
00:18:54 <Bensawsome> etc
00:19:51 <Bensawsome> DARNIT the dang xubuntu wont boot up -_-
00:20:05 <Bensawsome> im trying to install it -_-
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00:20:26 <Mir> if i where to build my own system the only lights would be the 2X optical drives, power and internet
00:20:34 <Bensawsome> ;)
00:20:43 <Mir> if there are any lights like LED fans THEY WILL BE CUT
00:20:48 <Mir> >:|
00:20:52 <Bensawsome> :P
00:21:01 * Bensawsome eats Mir's wire cutters :P
00:21:07 <PatrickPatience> Meh.
00:21:10 <Mir> i have no use for seeing in my case either
00:21:20 <Mir> plexiglass is bull*#&!@
00:21:31 <Bensawsome> one too many symbols ;)
00:21:35 <Mir> i know
00:21:37 <Roamer> Mir: Come on... Ya got to have some neon in there... :P
00:22:09 <Bensawsome> ya!
00:22:14 <Mir> nevar
00:22:15 <Bensawsome> and liquid cooling :P
00:22:32 <Roamer> or oil submerged.
00:22:42 <Mir> Roamer: when you have a lamp in your PC you increase the tempeture by 1-6 degrees F
00:22:43 <Bensawsome> ............
00:22:54 <Roamer> Mir: I know.
00:23:30 <Roamer> Bensawsome: http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/10/24/computer-cooled-using-a-mineral-oil-filled-fish-tank/
00:23:37 <Bensawsome> o_0
00:23:41 * Mir will not have liquid unless it is liquid nitrogen because that would cool my computer real quick and allow for MASSIVE overclocking
00:23:51 <Bensawsome> WOW THATS AWSOME!
00:24:00 <Roamer> DIY mineral oil comp
00:24:09 <Bensawsome> it better not leak though Roamer :P
00:25:00 <Roamer> only downside is that once it's in the oil, the part will fry if taken out... O_o
00:25:14 <Bensawsome> o_0
00:25:16 <Bensawsome> why?
00:25:33 <Bensawsome> wait Dude there is no layer between the electronics and OIL O_O_O_O
00:25:46 <Mir> nope
00:25:58 <Mir> Mineral oil is quite safe
00:25:59 <Bensawsome> o_0 wow
00:26:14 <Bensawsome> thats...
00:26:15 <Roamer> non-conductive
00:26:16 <Bensawsome> so.........
00:26:18 <Bensawsome> coool :D
00:26:20 <Mir> you can actualy run a computer submerged in a special water you know
00:26:29 <Roamer> ya
00:26:37 <Mir> as long as the water is non conductive
00:26:41 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: it's not special, it's just distilleed
00:26:43 <Gizmokid2005> *distilled
00:26:49 <Roamer> lol
00:26:53 <Mir> actual not it isnt distilled
00:26:59 <Gizmokid2005> and after you submerg parts in oil, they can be used again if you take them out, but after you allow time to dry
00:27:06 <Mir> distilled will RUIN electronics
00:27:10 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: yes it is, same stuff you'd use in a vehicle radiator
00:27:14 <Mir> nope
00:27:35 <Mir> there is 1 more process to distilled water before you can use it in computers
00:27:39 <Mir> trust me
00:27:51 <Roamer> it's distilled water with some minerals in it, isn't it?
00:27:52 <Mir> i know several people in the idustry
00:28:02 <Gizmokid2005> sorry
00:28:02 <Mir> de ionised
00:28:06 <Gizmokid2005> destilled, de-ionized
00:28:11 <Mir> yup
00:28:25 <Mir> there you go ol' chap
00:28:29 <Mir> ^_^
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00:28:41 <Gizmokid2005> :P
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00:29:21 * Roamer thinks that's a little pointless... He'd rather have the oil... (till it short-circuited and caught on fire...)
00:29:24 <Bensawsome> wonder how you move it though :P
00:29:29 <Mir> that person probibly didnt use store bought mineral oil
00:29:43 <Roamer> true. lol
00:29:48 <Mir> store bought mineral oil is still conductive
00:30:10 * Mir knows this for a fact (@__@;)
00:31:00 <Gizmokid2005> bah, I hate deciding on motherboards
00:31:05 <Bensawsome> lol
00:31:18 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler
00:31:20 <Mir> actualy i rather have my computer be aple to cool itself using non active means of cooling rather than have TONS of noisy fans blowing dust in and out
00:31:37 <DaveDixonII> Babble?
00:31:47 <Mir> Gizmokid2005: do you need it now?
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00:31:57 <Mir> if not wait
00:32:03 <powerjuce> no pabot?
00:32:14 <Mir> i am sure you will find one perfect for you at a much better price
00:32:21 <TimClark> powerjuce: gizmobot is filling in
00:32:24 <Mir> like lets say 70 dollars :)
00:32:24 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: I'm doing research, trying to decide on whether or not to attempt to rebuild
00:32:31 <Gizmokid2005> my budget is $150 tops
00:32:49 <powerjuce> .def powerjuce is here
00:33:02 <powerjuce> no def for GizmoBot :(
00:33:03 <Bensawsome> powerjuce: GizmoBot doesnt have the function :S
00:33:05 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce: no def modules
00:33:08 <Gizmokid2005> or herald module
00:33:16 <powerjuce> :'(
00:33:24 * powerjuce hides in the corner and cries
00:33:52 <Mir> Gizmokid2005: with the server mobo you could have the power to host an official bot 24 hours a day :D
00:34:13 * Mir hands powerjucea lolipop
00:34:45 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: I already have a server and could...
00:35:13 <Gizmokid2005> that's where GizmoBot runs from
00:35:26 <powerjuce> btw giz why r u on twice?
00:35:33 <Mir> then whats up with Gizmokid2005|Zzz?
00:35:36 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce: because my mac is still signed it
00:35:36 <Gizmokid2005> *in
00:35:41 <Mir> oh
00:35:41 <powerjuce> gotcha
00:35:50 <Gizmokid2005> yeah...and I'm too lazy to walk down there and shut it down
00:35:53 <Mir> beware TimClark might make a fuss
00:35:57 <Mir> :S
00:36:01 <Gizmokid2005> Mir: doubtful
00:36:12 <Mir> he's done it in the past
00:36:20 <TimClark> you are being a bit of a pain today Mir :P
00:36:25 <Mir> :p
00:37:12 <TimClark> I would never question the ops need to have a dup
00:37:33 <Mir> :)
00:43:04 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157139
00:43:07 <Gizmokid2005> there's another one
00:44:56 <Gizmokid2005> Ok...this frustrates me a tad, I'm going afk to play some games for a few.
00:45:14 <PatrickPatience> Oh my gosh.
00:45:25 <PatrickPatience> There's a peanut butter jelly time app for the iPhone.
00:45:32 <Bensawsome> :D
00:45:35 <Bensawsome> Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:45:39 <Bensawsome> awsome!
00:45:43 <SergentSiler> :O
00:45:47 <Roamer> lol, afraid to ask, but what does it do...?
00:45:58 <Bensawsome> what the heck you think?!
00:46:09 <PatrickPatience> Haha. I was waiting for a Ben comment.
00:46:12 <Roamer> dancing banana?
00:46:52 <Bensawsome> well it does this: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/banana
00:47:20 <Bensawsome> duh :P
00:47:30 <PatrickPatience> Anyone have a VNC client installed?
00:47:36 <Roamer> Bensawsome: I thought the fact that flash and dialup don't go together...
00:47:37 <Bensawsome> lol you should see me now im dancing :P
00:47:44 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: awesome, and of course
00:47:44 <Roamer> lol
00:47:44 <Bensawsome> sry Roamer :(
00:47:47 * SergentSiler starts singing it
00:47:54 <PatrickPatience> Who wants a little PBJTime with me?
00:48:00 * Roamer backs away...
00:48:01 * Bensawsome
00:48:01 * Bensawsome
00:48:03 <Bensawsome> :D
00:48:09 <Gizmokid2005> lmfao
00:48:14 <SergentSiler> "PBJ, PBJ, PJB wit a baseball bat!"
00:48:18 <Bensawsome> :D
00:48:25 <Gizmokid2005> Ok...seriously afk now lol
00:48:27 <Gizmokid2005> well
00:48:27 <Gizmokid2005> no
00:48:29 <Gizmokid2005> afirc
00:48:31 <Gizmokid2005> not afk
00:48:32 <Bensawsome> lol :P
00:48:36 <Roamer> SergentSiler: peanut jelly butter?
00:48:38 * Bensawsome pokes gizmokid2005
00:48:42 <SergentSiler> XD
00:48:46 <PatrickPatience> Hahaha!
00:48:48 <PatrickPatience> So awesome.
00:48:50 * SergentSiler cant type right :P
00:49:04 <PatrickPatience> 10.139.203.93
00:49:10 <Bensawsome> hey Roamer: here are the lyrics
00:49:16 <Bensawsome> PatrickPatience: huh?>
00:49:19 <Bensawsome> http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/proudfamily/peanutbutterjellytime.htm
00:49:19 <Roamer> I know the song
00:49:32 <PatrickPatience> Bensawsome: VNC. :-)
00:49:39 <Bensawsome> you want me to connect PatrickPatience?
00:49:57 <PatrickPatience> You'd have to dub the PBJTime song overtop. :-P
00:50:00 <SergentSiler> Bensawsome, dont do it, u will time out XD
00:50:12 <Bensawsome> o_0
00:50:41 <SergentSiler> 0_o
00:50:48 <Roamer> lol, it's fun to crash a comp with VNC... (Me + IT Class + VNC = crashy crashy... from iPhones to comps...)
00:50:57 <Bensawsome> lol i memorized the pbjtime song XD
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00:51:32 <Roamer> It's just like 5 lines repeating over and over? How can you not Bensawsome? :P
00:51:45 <Bensawsome> no
00:52:15 <Bensawsome> lol
00:52:23 <Bensawsome> currently i have 342 tabs open XD
00:52:47 <Bensawsome> in ff
00:52:50 <Roamer> What the...? WHY? Extreme multitasking?
00:53:02 <Bensawsome> yes
00:53:07 <Roamer> lol
00:53:33 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: impress me, right-click a tab and select Reload All tabs
00:53:38 <Bensawsome> XD
00:53:50 <Bensawsome> i have done that with 932 tabs before :P
00:53:52 <Roamer> lol, crashy time?
00:53:58 <Gizmokid2005> O:-) ( I even came out of game to say that) (YAY for dual monitors)
00:54:01 <Bensawsome> didnt crash either ;)
00:54:25 <Roamer> O_o (Roamer wants Bensawsome's internet connection...)
00:54:29 <Bensawsome> :P
00:54:31 <PatrickPatience> Why is Veency not working?
00:54:32 <PatrickPatience> Outraged!
00:54:38 * Bensawsome has 30mb/s connection :P
00:54:52 <Roamer> VNC iPhone?
00:54:59 <PatrickPatience> Yeah man.
00:55:32 <Roamer> One of my friends set that up on his. There's a guide somewhere... don't know where though...
00:56:02 <Bensawsome> PatrickPatience: did you forward the right ports? ;)
00:56:03 <PatrickPatience> As a server, or client?
00:56:16 <Roamer> both
00:56:18 <PatrickPatience> There's no need to set it up as a server.
00:56:22 <Bensawsome> PatrickPatience: did you forward the right ports? ;)
00:56:26 <PatrickPatience> Install Veency, connect to the IP.
00:56:31 <Bensawsome> no
00:56:32 <PatrickPatience> Bensawsome: No port forwarding needed.
00:56:33 <PatrickPatience> Shhh!
00:56:33 * Roamer gets on his phone in class cause he did that...
00:56:35 <Bensawsome> .........
00:56:37 <Bensawsome> fail PatrickPatience
00:56:42 <Bensawsome> yes you have to forward the ports
00:56:43 <PatrickPatience> Bensawsome: WTH?
00:56:50 <PatrickPatience> No, really, I don't.
00:56:54 <PatrickPatience> Thanks for trying, bud.
00:57:00 <Bensawsome> wait how ru connecting??":?:????>
00:57:29 <PatrickPatience> Telekinesis.
00:58:23 <Roamer> lol XD ... wait a sec... PatrickPatience stop controlling my comp!!!! :P
00:58:30 <PatrickPatience> Haha.
00:59:06 <PatrickPatience> 10.139.214.172
00:59:13 <PatrickPatience> I think it's just my PC, I've connected fine in the past.
00:59:18 <PatrickPatience> Give it a shot and see if it times out.
01:01:22 <Bensawsome> aaa goood now i only have 97 tabs open :D
01:01:23 <Bensawsome> lol
01:01:36 <Bensawsome> now i wont have as big a memory leaks :D
01:02:07 <Bensawsome> hey Mir: you might like this: http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/12/26/how-to-emulate-every-nintendo-system-in-windows/
01:02:12 <TimClark> FF does not have memory leaks, it is perfect :P
01:02:17 <Roamer> yes, because 97 tabs is definitely not crazy... lol jk
01:02:28 <Bensawsome> :P
01:04:38 <powerjuce> TimClark: why do u need 2 need about +e?
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01:05:43 <TimClark> i do not chat cross channel powerjuce|away
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01:10:09 <Bensawsome> PatrickPatience: cant connect
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01:10:58 <Mir> i need some assistance
01:11:04 <Bensawsome> orly?
01:11:07 <Mir> what sould i do with this --> http://www.geocities.com/marcelino_martins/eBay/channelmixer/front.JPG
01:11:19 <Mir> i own one but have no PSU for it
01:11:27 <SergentSiler> Mir, check pm's
01:13:11 <Roamer> Mir: You could always sell it... Or get some speakers... and a proper cable... maybe a mic... and some music... (see where I'm going with this?)
01:13:37 <Mir> i need a PSU for it
01:13:42 <Mir> the rest i got
01:13:52 <excid3> rawr
01:13:55 * Mir has 2 sets of BOSE speakers
01:14:03 <Mir> @__@
01:14:10 * Roamer votes check the internets!
01:14:17 * Mir has Monstar cable
01:14:23 <Mir> i haz
01:14:27 <Mir> no PSU
01:14:29 <Mir> T___T
01:14:41 * Mir fears the worst at radioshit
01:15:12 <Mir> "uhh what are you talking about X-B
01:17:12 <Roamer> lol, I know what you mean... I went in asking for a 2.5mm male to male audio cable... ended badly... Found it with the phones...
01:18:55 <Roamer> Radioshack... knows nothing... for the most part. Once there was someone that knew something... (but then I left the store).
01:25:21 <Mir> i go in knowing what i want and with the thought that they will be unable to assist me because i am far more knowlageable than they are
01:25:51 <excid3> its so true
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01:25:58 <Roamer> lol, true. so very true.
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01:27:09 <Roamer> hello donttalktome.
01:27:13 <Roamer> lol
01:27:20 <TimClark> it is a test, not to worry
01:27:26 <Gizmokid2005> Roamer: it was me
01:27:27 <Gizmokid2005> sorry
01:27:41 <Roamer> lol, i figured it was someone in here.
01:28:06 <PatrickPatience> Oh... so the Super Bowl's on. Fancy that.
01:28:51 <TimClark> /mode Fancy that
01:28:59 <Roamer> lol
01:29:11 <Mir> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/2178/eBay/channelmixer/channelmixer.html <-- what i got
01:29:43 <PatrickPatience> Worst High Five ever: http://lifehacker.com/5143477/five-best-system-tray-applications
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01:30:24 <TimClark> hello ZachThibeau
01:30:35 <ZachThibeau> howdy TimClark
01:30:37 <ZachThibeau> whats new
01:31:08 <TimClark> wondering how many of these folks have a tv right next to their monitor right now
01:31:34 <Roamer> I do. but it's on America Dad. lol
01:31:48 <SergentSiler> TimClark, i do :D
01:31:49 <Roamer> *American
01:31:54 <ZachThibeau> TimClark: my tv is my computer :P
01:31:58 <TimClark> chat ... football...chat...chat ....AFK ... football, football ...
01:32:03 <ZachThibeau> I download my episodes from the internet
01:32:11 <ZachThibeau> and I hate football
01:32:20 <SergentSiler> just tell me when halftime is on :D
01:32:23 <ZachThibeau> actually I hate most sports period
01:32:33 <ZachThibeau> typical geek that I am :P
01:32:41 <TimClark> humm, nerd and a geek
01:32:48 <SergentSiler> a neek?
01:32:54 <SergentSiler> or a gerd?
01:33:02 <ZachThibeau> >_<
01:33:12 <SergentSiler> :P
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01:46:57 <Bensawsome> ....
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01:53:15 <Bensawsome> ..............
01:53:28 <TimClark> sorry Bensawsome need to test something
01:53:30 <Bensawsome> awww......
01:53:31 <Bensawsome> lol
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02:00:44 <PatrickPatience> Why does GizmoBot need voice?
02:01:09 <TimClark> PatrickPatience: It was done to make it clear that GizmoBot is here and pabot is not, folks can see him better
02:01:27 <TimClark> so, he does not need it , we do :P
02:01:57 <TimClark> it was hard to see him low on the list and folks ask
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02:06:27 <KevinPorter> Evenin' everyone.
02:06:50 <TimClark> hello KevinPorter :D
02:06:52 <SergentSiler> heyoo KevinPorter
02:06:58 <KevinPorter> :)
02:07:03 <KevinPorter> Anyone watching the Super Bowl?
02:07:14 <Roamer> nope
02:07:21 <TimClark> nope, is it half time yet ?
02:07:28 <SergentSiler> TimClark, FTW!!
02:07:38 <TimClark> shhh
02:07:58 <KevinPorter> TimClark: Half time's over, it's fourth quarter already.
02:08:03 <SergentSiler> D:
02:08:18 <KevinPorter> Steelers 20 - Cardinals 7. :(
02:08:21 <Bensawsome> lol
02:08:31 <TimClark> shucks, missed it, oh well, i will survive :P
02:08:57 <SergentSiler> youtube ftw
02:09:11 <Roamer> check digg, in case something happened... wardrobe malfunction. lol
02:09:17 <SergentSiler> lol
02:09:18 * TimClark thinks his scarcasim was too subtle
02:09:35 <SergentSiler> TimClark, u used sarcasm??
02:09:46 <Roamer> sarcasm in text loses all meaning
02:09:47 <ZachThibeau> SergentSiler: yeah you got a problem with that :P
02:09:51 <TimClark> i knew it was past half time
02:09:55 <SergentSiler> :P
02:10:02 <KevinPorter> TimClark: Sure... :P
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02:10:29 <SrgSiler|Sleep> g'nite all
02:10:35 <Roamer> nite
02:10:37 <KevinPorter> Night SrgSiler|Sleep.
02:10:39 <TimClark> night
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03:24:14 <PatrickPatience> Phew.
03:24:16 <PatrickPatience> Haha.
03:24:18 <PatrickPatience> Thanks Tim.
03:24:52 <TimClark> yw
03:27:42 <TimClark> PatrickPatience: the floor is yours, i'm gone
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03:37:54 <Gizmokid2005> so, I've narrowed it down: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200022%201070930149%201075707618%201073507581&StoreType=-1&CompareItemList=N82E16813135075%2cN82E16813138113%2cN82E16813157139%2cN82E16813157141&bop=And
03:39:47 <PatrickPatience> Is this the sleep IRCing Gizmokid2005?
03:39:48 <Gizmokid2005> man, this room is lively /sarcasm
03:39:55 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: nope, this is the real Gizmokid2005
03:40:03 <Gizmokid2005> the sleeping Gizmokid2005|Zzz iz sleeping still
03:40:10 <PatrickPatience> Oh, okay.
03:40:48 <Gizmokid2005> I can't believe this...I"m searching for mobos...and the only ones I've found that I like...actually have on-board video...
03:44:29 <ZachThibeau> XD
03:44:38 <ZachThibeau> I hate cross compiling
03:44:45 <ZachThibeau> it's a pain :S
03:44:47 <Gizmokid2005> I see nobody has any opinions :( I suppose I will go and sulk :(
03:44:58 <Gizmokid2005> .tell ZachThibeau to be nice
03:44:58 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: As pabot is currently down, please use MemoServ instead so no .tells are missed. (/msg MemoServ help)
03:45:03 <Gizmokid2005> =-O
03:45:05 <ZachThibeau> :P
03:45:33 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I would help you but I'm not up to date on the latest hardware really
03:45:37 <Gizmokid2005> I am going to leave nao :( go play with more computer parts...since nobody has any ideas *mumbles incoherently under breath*
03:45:54 <Gizmokid2005> I, apparently, of all the people I know, am the only one who is even remotely up to date.
03:45:55 <ZachThibeau> :(
03:46:05 <ZachThibeau> :`(
03:46:15 <Gizmokid2005> I decided this will be the CPU though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103472
03:46:47 <ZachThibeau> niiiiiccceee
03:47:17 <Gizmokid2005> oh yes...my dad wants a new computer and wants me to build him one...so I decided, why not capitalize? I'll sell him mine, which is perfectly fine, and upgrade myself :D
03:47:32 <ZachThibeau> :P
03:47:40 <ZachThibeau> it's a sound idea :)
03:47:52 <ZachThibeau> Phenom FTW :D
03:47:55 <Gizmokid2005> most definitely, so I'm coming up with a parts list to see if I can do it as a viable idea
03:47:59 <Gizmokid2005> oh most definitely, AMD FTW
03:48:04 <Gizmokid2005> especially that one
03:48:10 <Gizmokid2005> 3.0GHz on FOUR cores :D
03:48:30 * ZachThibeau drools just thinking of it
03:48:30 <Gizmokid2005> well...2.8, but OCable :D
03:48:38 * ZachThibeau quickly wipes his drool
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03:48:46 <Gizmokid2005> :d
03:48:57 <ZachThibeau> howdy powerjuce
03:49:16 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: I thought about this one, but I don't need QUITE that much, especially for $40 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
03:49:26 <Gizmokid2005> that's the actual 3GHz version
03:49:29 <powerjuce> hey ZachThibeau
03:49:35 <Gizmokid2005> basically the same CPU though
03:49:40 <Gizmokid2005> welcome back powerjuce
03:49:51 <powerjuce> thanks Gizmokid2005
03:49:55 <Gizmokid2005> yw powerjuce
03:50:01 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I say whatever floats your boat or in this case your computer :P
03:50:10 <Gizmokid2005> :)
03:50:37 <Gizmokid2005> that's why I'm being so picky about mobo, because I want to make this pc last a long time, I mean, the one I have now is perfectly fine...but i won't turn down an upgrade :)
03:51:23 <Gizmokid2005> but I figure, while I'm at it, might as well go quad-core :)
03:51:27 <ZachThibeau> :P
03:51:52 <ZachThibeau> fedora 10 is a pain :/
03:52:07 <Gizmokid2005> Pros: eggcellent Drop in upgrade from a 9950 Be,complements my Biostar 790GX well.
03:52:08 <Gizmokid2005> BETTER gaming performance than my Q6600(that's right I own a Q6600) even when the Q6600 is overclocked higher.
03:52:08 <Gizmokid2005>
03:52:08 <Gizmokid2005> Cons: My chip has a terrible VID of 1.35.
03:52:08 <Gizmokid2005> It seems like The Phenom II is immature and needs a stepping revision to Lessen the current leakage.
03:52:09 <ZachThibeau> I thought I give it a try and I don't like it
03:52:09 <Gizmokid2005>
03:52:11 <Gizmokid2005> Other Thoughts: it gets real hard to OC it above 3.5ghz,it takes a ton of voltage to make this thing not BSOD.
03:52:14 <Gizmokid2005> whatever here's what I finally got out of it-
03:52:16 <Gizmokid2005> 14 x 257(3.6ghz) 1.504vcore,HT @ 2315 x2 ,NB 2315mhz
03:52:18 <Gizmokid2005> 2 x 2gb of patriot DDR2 1066 @ 1028mhz 5-5-5-15.
03:52:20 <Gizmokid2005> I may lower the multi to 13.5 and try for higher NB clocks.
03:52:24 <Gizmokid2005> omg!!!
03:52:33 <ZachThibeau> :/
03:52:40 <Gizmokid2005> stupid copy/paste
03:52:48 <Gizmokid2005> sorry guys
03:52:52 <ZachThibeau> np :P
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03:55:02 <powerjuce> waht r we doing guys
03:55:15 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: logs FTW :P
03:55:18 * Gizmokid2005 is just looking at new PC parts
03:55:23 <ZachThibeau> talking about computer hardware
03:56:01 <powerjuce> ZachThibeau: i meant about the bans
03:56:10 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce: I set those on myself
03:56:15 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: he accidently banned himself :P
03:56:20 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: it wasn't on accident
03:56:24 <ZachThibeau> :/
03:56:25 <Gizmokid2005> I was punishing myself
03:56:27 <ZachThibeau> orly
03:56:27 <powerjuce> yea i saw that, but why were u quiting your self
03:56:39 <Gizmokid2005> huh?
03:56:51 <Gizmokid2005> I did a muteban instead of an actual ban
03:57:18 <Bensawsome> hmmmmmm
03:57:26 <Bensawsome> wow gizmokid2005 fail :P
03:57:35 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: shush, or I'll show you fail
03:57:46 <Bensawsome> :P
03:57:53 <Bensawsome> lol
03:57:54 <PatrickPatience> Oh. My. Gosh.
03:58:02 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: you live =--O
03:58:03 <Bensawsome> o. r. l. y.
03:58:09 <ZachThibeau> -_-
03:58:23 <Bensawsome> ;D hey PatrickPatience wazzup
03:58:35 <Bensawsome> another blasphemic iphone app?
03:59:39 <PatrickPatience> Gizmokid2005: http://redsn0w.com/
03:59:55 <PatrickPatience> Why is blaspheme ALWAYS used incorrectly?
04:00:00 <PatrickPatience> Always, I tell you! :-P
04:00:38 <Bensawsome> :'(
04:01:20 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: ??
04:02:55 <PatrickPatience> iPod touch 2G jailbreak.
04:03:12 <Gizmokid2005> oohhh :)
04:03:22 <Gizmokid2005> maybeh that'll have to be my chore for tomorrow
04:03:55 <Bensawsome> blasphemic PatrickPatience ;D
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04:04:13 <powerjuce> hey PatrickPatience did u give wraithdu my email?
04:05:39 <PatrickPatience> powerjuce: Yeah.
04:06:19 <PatrickPatience> Gizmokid2005: Mac only ATM, but they said people should be able to figure out their own way do it on Win + Lin.
04:07:46 <Bensawsome> PatrickPatience: and he has a mac :P
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04:10:21 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: I have a mac :)
04:10:28 <Bensawsome> :P
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04:10:59 <excid3> lol, im doing parting... /join 0 is fun :P
04:11:06 <powerjuce> Gizmokid2005: same here
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04:14:53 <PatrickPatience> Gizmokid2005: Well, there's: http://alltechrelated.wordpress.com/2009/02/01/how-to-jailbreak-ipod-touch-2nd-generation-redsn0w-for-windows/ as well.
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04:14:58 <PatrickPatience> Do you have Windows at home, or just work?
04:17:12 <Gizmokid2005> both
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04:17:17 <Gizmokid2005> I'm on windows right now
04:17:22 <Gizmokid2005> I have my macbook that's mac, that's all
04:17:29 <Gizmokid2005> but my server and desktop are both windows
04:17:32 <Gizmokid2005> and I have windows at work too
04:18:34 <Bensawsome> unfortunately :'(
04:18:36 <powerjuce> windows server
04:18:37 <powerjuce> i hate it
04:18:51 <powerjuce> use ubuntu
04:18:55 <powerjuce> server
04:19:04 <Bensawsome> ya :D
04:19:31 <powerjuce> pure bash commandline
04:19:39 <powerjuce> that is how a server is supposed to work
04:21:09 <Bensawsome> :P
04:22:35 <Gizmokid2005> not when you want to run CS:S, TMNF, Ventrilo, Cod4, and IRC bots :)
04:22:40 <Bensawsome> nite guys ;D
04:22:40 <Gizmokid2005> plus file sharing :D
04:22:41 <Gizmokid2005> :P
04:22:43 <Bensawsome> lol ya :P
04:22:51 <PatrickPatience> I'm getting my Mac soon, likely.
04:23:08 * DaveDixonII is getting an iTouch soon
04:23:33 <DaveDixonII> .g iTouch
04:23:33 <GizmoBot> DaveDixonII: http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/
04:23:52 <DaveDixonII> PatrickPatience: What were you saying about 'no such thing as iTouch?' :P
04:27:29 <PatrickPatience> It doesn't exist. Would you like to show me where on that site it says iTouch?
04:27:38 <PatrickPatience> Or I can explain how search engines work.
04:28:40 <PatrickPatience> Gosh I'm such a prick. :-P
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04:29:28 <DaveDixonII> PatrickPatience: Got that right. :P
04:29:46 <DaveDixonII> Jk
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04:49:10 <JacobMastel> hey all
04:57:19 <excid3> howdy dudes
05:00:09 <JacobMastel> What's up excid3?
05:00:21 <JacobMastel> Seems pretty dead in here to me...
05:00:40 <JacobMastel> Why does Gizmobot have voice?
05:00:47 <excid3> not much man
05:00:51 <excid3> it is pretty dead
05:00:59 <excid3> im just doing some string comparisons...it sucks
05:01:24 <JacobMastel> Gizmokid20005: Why does you bot have voice?
05:01:49 <JacobMastel> Gizmokid2005....Sorry mispelled...
05:03:57 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: because pabot is gone, and gizmobot gets buried in the list and people ask, so we voiced it to distinguish that it's here and pabot isn't
05:05:06 <JacobMastel> Ah
05:05:11 <JacobMastel> Just wondering.
05:05:23 <JacobMastel> I was wondering if the voice was/had been, muted
05:05:33 <JacobMastel> *If the room
05:05:38 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: yeah. just as a distinguinshing thing
05:05:50 <JacobMastel> Glad to hear ;)
05:06:30 <Gizmokid2005> yup
05:06:45 <excid3> lol
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05:36:03 <ChrisMorgan> I would like to know people's comments on my proposals at http://portableapps.com/development/test/status about columns and merging with dev/test
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05:39:00 *** ChrisMorgan changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com Support Channel | New Releases & Updates: http://PortableApps.com/News | Looking for support? Try saying "help!" | This channel is G-rated | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | We do not discuss or endorse any kind of illegal software (e.g. Portable Photoshop, Microsoft Office)"
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05:45:04 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: the thing is, we /do/ discuss illegal software... when they bring it up asking for support, I tell them that they should use legal software, as the illegal Photoshop Portable is buggy, and because it's not legal - I recommend GIMP and Inkscape Portable :D
05:45:07 <ChrisMorgan> Hey upnPAD
05:45:29 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: got your identifying bug sorted out?
05:46:27 <upnPAD> sup
05:46:31 <upnPAD> woot =D
05:46:35 <upnPAD> yup
05:46:38 <upnPAD> ta to Bensawsome
05:47:13 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: any opinions on my comments at http://portableapps.com/development/test/status?
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05:54:47 <PatrickPatience> ChrisMorgan: I need to look at that more perhaps tomorrow.
05:54:55 <PatrickPatience> I'm debating on the separate page thing.
05:55:00 <ChrisMorgan> OK... what's the time where you are?
05:55:06 <ChrisMorgan> .t PatrickPatience
05:55:09 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: Sorry, I don't know about the 'PatrickPatience' timezone.
05:55:12 <ChrisMorgan> :o
05:55:22 <ChrisMorgan> If it was pabot...
05:55:45 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon maintainence is going to be /loads/ easier if we just have one page.
05:56:02 <ChrisMorgan> And I don't think that there are any permissions setups which could be damaged by a merger.
05:56:14 <ChrisMorgan> {{merge}} :P
05:56:18 <ChrisMorgan> .wik WP:Merge
05:56:19 <ChrisMorgan> :D
05:56:20 <GizmoBot> "Merging and moving are two fundamental aspects of how articles are developed, structured, and reformed on Wikipedia." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merging_articles
05:56:26 <PatrickPatience> What do you mean with the script tag?
05:56:39 <ChrisMorgan> Look at the source code. There's a bit of obsolete code there
05:56:43 <ChrisMorgan> From dev/test
05:56:49 <ChrisMorgan> And it's all commented out inside anyway
05:56:52 <ChrisMorgan> /*
05:57:10 <ChrisMorgan> It was from before it went jQuery
05:58:39 <PatrickPatience> I don't see any code commented out?
05:58:49 <PatrickPatience> You're talking about the Javascript to sort the columns?
05:59:22 <ChrisMorgan> no, after the tables.
05:59:37 <ChrisMorgan> The bit with "this function is need to work around a bug in IE related to element attributes"
06:00:22 <ChrisMorgan> Well, it used to be used to stripe the columns, then we went jQuery. It's all obsolete, commented-out code.
06:01:44 <PatrickPatience> Ahh.
06:02:03 <ChrisMorgan> should I remove it, or wait for John?
06:08:16 <PatrickPatience> Just ask John when you get a chance.
06:08:51 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah
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07:42:31 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi people
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07:48:51 <ChrisMorgan> hey TaffinFoxcroft
07:49:00 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi ChrisMorgan.
07:49:12 <TaffinFoxcroft> it looks like i made patrick leave ;D
07:49:29 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
07:49:43 <ChrisMorgan> What do you think of my suggestions about table formatting, merge?
08:18:00 <TaffinFoxcroft> sorry, was afk
08:18:10 <TaffinFoxcroft> merge?
08:20:06 <ChrisMorgan> merging d/t and d/t/s
08:35:39 <TaffinFoxcroft> i think it should be sperate
08:36:36 <TaffinFoxcroft> it may be convenient but we would have to go through and edit every single one
08:42:07 <TaffinFoxcroft> also it means that the d/t maintainers don't have to put up with our comments and such
08:43:10 <TaffinFoxcroft> and more people use d/t (like the non-techie type) to it would be best to keep that clean so that people can use it as a reference instead the RT middle grounds
08:46:09 <ChrisMorgan> d/t maintainers - that's us.
08:46:30 <ChrisMorgan> why would we have to go through and edit every single one? wouldn't it be more work having to /copy/ every item?
08:46:49 <ChrisMorgan> d/t could also then be used to indicate quality of a program.
08:47:03 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, but I disagree with every single point that you've made... :-)
08:47:22 <upnPAD> same
08:47:52 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
08:49:57 <TaffinFoxcroft> d/t is used by people to find apps and d/t/s is more of a mess at the moment. if you moved that mess to d/t it would not only look unprofessional, it would hinder the functionality of the page
08:51:08 <TaffinFoxcroft> if we just added another column with something like "Tested" and link to d/t/s from there i'm fine with that just as long most of the comments and clutter is kept away
08:51:27 <ChrisMorgan> Nah, I disagree.
08:51:53 <ChrisMorgan> It doesn't need to be a mess. Do it the way I'm suggesting, and it just ends up three or so columns stuck on the end.
08:53:11 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: back me up :P
08:53:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> d/t tables are set out fairly good at the moment. one more column I wouldn't mind, but 3...
08:53:29 <TaffinFoxcroft> nope.
08:53:48 <upnPAD> but chris is right
08:53:55 <upnPAD> and you're wrong
08:54:00 <TaffinFoxcroft> explain how.
08:54:07 <upnPAD> pm me what to say chris
08:54:13 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
08:54:16 * TaffinFoxcroft puts on debating music
08:54:23 <ChrisMorgan> TaffinFoxcroft: which music?
08:54:41 <TaffinFoxcroft> no idea. i think its pink floyd at the momeny
08:54:46 <TaffinFoxcroft> *moment
08:54:46 <ChrisMorgan> Beethoven's 5th Symphony or something like that?
08:54:53 <ChrisMorgan> money?
08:54:54 <ChrisMorgan> :P
08:55:04 <TaffinFoxcroft> interstellar overdrive
08:55:05 <ChrisMorgan> Why not put on 3 more columns?
08:55:09 <ChrisMorgan> :/
08:56:00 <TaffinFoxcroft> it would squash up the other columns and make them partly unreadable
08:56:24 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think so.
08:56:29 <upnPAD> no it wont
08:56:39 <TaffinFoxcroft> like i said, one column with something like "Tested by Release Team" as the header is fine by me
08:56:49 <TaffinFoxcroft> but 3 columns :/
08:57:14 <ChrisMorgan> Already the PR table has "Awaiting", and that fits in fine.
08:57:19 <ChrisMorgan> 2 more won't matter
08:57:27 <ChrisMorgan> (Awaiting would be replaced)
08:57:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> by the way, theres 5 more columns to add
08:57:33 <upnPAD> yeah they wont matter
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08:57:48 <ChrisMorgan|away> I'll continue the fight when Ben's done...
08:57:55 <TaffinFoxcroft> Testers, PAD, Registry, appdata and pre-releade
08:58:02 <upnPAD> did i hear PAD
08:58:17 <TaffinFoxcroft> ben as in BPBible Ben?
08:58:56 <upnPAD> yes and no
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08:59:01 <upnPAD> depending on what chris says
09:00:18 <TaffinFoxcroft> by the way chris, the Awaiting column is what i'm talking about. look at the PR table, then the DT table.
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09:32:49 <TaffinFoxcroft> hunh? 404? http://portableapps.com/node/17441
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11:40:15 <ChrisMorgan> TaffinFoxcroft: yes, one header has a bit too much in it. So what?
11:41:52 <TaffinFoxcroft> if you added something like the Awaiting column to the dev test table it would be acceptable to me, but adding 5 more columns seems a little overkill.
11:42:35 <ChrisMorgan> Who said 5 more? oh yeah, you did :P
11:42:48 <ChrisMorgan> Really though I don't think that a
11:42:52 <TaffinFoxcroft> prehaps linking the text in the Awaiting Column to d/t/s if/when there is something there regarding the app, i.e. PAF compliance
11:42:56 <ChrisMorgan> pre-release column is needed
11:43:07 <ChrisMorgan> Too hard to implement properly.
11:43:42 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: Aussies are not the only Nation that use Colour :P in Canada that is how we use it :P
11:43:46 <ChrisMorgan> I've wondered before whether it'd be easier if all projects just used the Drupal "Projects" module (as is used for drupal.org's project management...)
11:43:49 <ZachThibeau> back btw
11:43:59 <ChrisMorgan> :o you surprise me :P
11:44:03 <ChrisMorgan> the latter thing that is
11:44:09 <TaffinFoxcroft> even if you didn't use anchors, still just a link to d/t/s in the Awaiting box to notify people that there is this problem and that problem to be fixed before it can go official
11:44:20 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: more to the point, americans are the people that use colo(shudder)r
11:44:30 * ZachThibeau shudders too
11:44:35 <ChrisMorgan> :D
11:44:48 <TaffinFoxcroft> the colour idea i'm fine on
11:44:49 <ZachThibeau> there is also my favourite word ;)
11:44:55 <ZachThibeau> :P
11:45:16 <TaffinFoxcroft> :P
11:45:29 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: you mean, "there" is also your favourite word, or what?
11:45:35 <Bensawsome> orly?
11:45:39 <ZachThibeau> mehbe :P
11:45:48 <Bensawsome> lol nice word ZachThibeau :P
11:46:10 <ZachThibeau> I try to be funny with a misspelled word every now and then ;)
11:46:18 <Bensawsome> ;D
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11:47:02 <Bensawsome> anywho im off to... school *shiver*
11:47:04 <Bensawsome> lol
11:47:08 <ChrisMorgan> I like the description of the English (Australian) dictionary add-on for FF: "I'm sick of all my favoUrite coloUrful language being marked incorrect."
11:47:21 <ChrisMorgan> *shudder*, that should be :P
11:47:22 <Bensawsome> lol
11:47:24 <ZachThibeau> XD nice
11:47:46 <ChrisMorgan> jqGrid looks nice :-)
11:47:47 <ZachThibeau> man I have more Aussie friends that I could ever imagine :O
11:48:04 * ChrisMorgan may use it for mass editing
11:48:07 <ZachThibeau> I work with 2 Aussies on VBA-M
11:48:20 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: who? (Innocent look) :P
11:48:23 <ChrisMorgan> VBA-M?
11:48:35 <ZachThibeau> VisualBoyAdvance-M gba emulator :P
11:48:55 <ZachThibeau> and the names are mudlord and squall leonhart (I don't know their real names sorry)
11:50:21 <ZachThibeau> but I work with them on vba-m and I have some friends (real friend that is :P who I used to live by in Nova Scotia before they moved back to Australia named Chris Blanchard)
11:51:30 <ZachThibeau> I see that I'm talking to myself :S
11:51:40 * ZachThibeau sulks in the corner
11:52:16 <ChrisMorgan> "HP Health Check" on this machine... all it shows me is that HP's software development team needs a health check. Invariably it crashes.
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12:00:20 <ZachThibeau> :P
12:01:55 <ZachThibeau> brb
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12:13:16 <ChrisMorgan> SergentSiler, SergentSiler_, SilerX: having trouble?
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12:16:40 <Bensawsome> ok back :D
12:16:41 <Bensawsome> lol
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12:42:09 <Bazzz> i'm looking for John
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12:42:56 <Bazzz> Anyboy by the name of John
12:42:57 <Bazzz> ?
12:43:03 <Bazzz> *body..
12:43:39 <Bazzz> anybody at all?
12:44:28 <BrianALL> Bazzz: He's not on right now but he might be back later in the afternoon
12:44:41 <BrianALL> can we help you with anything?
12:45:45 <Bensawsome> and Bazzz: he isn't on very often so... but ya we can help most likely :D
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12:48:26 <Bazzz> i want to rename my account name
12:48:39 <Bazzz> stupid as i am i used my full name
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12:50:18 <Bazzz> the account name used is "basbleijendaal"
12:50:27 <Bazzz> would any of you be so kind?
12:51:30 <Bazzz> the portable apps pages make up a large result in google searching my name....
12:51:47 <Bensawsome> we cant only john can...
12:51:53 <Bensawsome> but wait why you wanna change it?
12:52:18 <Bensawsome> oh if you do change your name the google results wont be up[dated instantly it may take a bit :S
12:52:19 <Bazzz> i'd like my full name to be clean on google results, any other name is fine by me
12:52:32 <BrianALL> I was the one who replied to your forum post, an I'm sorry, I believe John is the only one with admin priveledges.
12:52:37 <Bazzz> i know... that's no problem
12:52:57 <Bensawsome> and also you need to tell him a new username ;) he wont just change it randomly
12:53:01 <Bazzz> i already contacted wikipedia and such to clean other hits
12:53:36 <Bazzz> i'd like basbleijendaal to change in Bazzz(added z's to make unique)
12:53:46 <BrianALL> if you just hang out around here you'd probably catch him sometime today
12:54:16 <Bensawsome> no sometime eventually :S
12:54:21 <Bazzz> that could be a problem as i'm at work right now... my boss won't like me to be on IRC the whole day...
12:54:37 <Bazzz> could any of you be so kind the relay the request...
12:55:05 <BrianALL> then just check the logs every few hours or so to see if he's on:http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs
12:55:21 <Bazzz> ok, I will
12:55:23 <BrianALL> It would probably be best for you to ask him personally.
12:55:24 <Bazzz> thanks !
12:55:34 <BrianALL> no prob.
12:56:39 <Bazzz> Isn't there any other way to contact him, PM or email
12:57:01 <Bazzz> I will be carefull with the information you're providing to me...
12:57:45 <Bazzz> nevermind... i'll just be patient...
12:59:02 <ChrisMorgan> Bazzz: I have his email address, but a) he doesn't check it awfully much (or at least act on it) and b) I don't have permission to give it to anyone. So sorry, I can't help you.
12:59:17 <ChrisMorgan> If you do catch JohnTHaller in here, things can move very fast :-)
13:00:14 <Bazzz> ok, thank you anyway!
13:00:23 <Bazzz> I'll just wait...
13:01:32 <ChrisMorgan> He may or may not come in any time soon. I think he's unlikely to come in today, as he'd have come in say at least an hour ago if he's going to come in about when he normally does.
13:01:41 <ChrisMorgan> .seen JohnTHaller
13:01:41 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen johnthaller around.
13:01:51 <ChrisMorgan> Oh yeah, GizmoBot rather than pabot...
13:02:01 <Bensawsome> yep :S so we dont know when he was last on :S
13:02:03 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller last came in on the 30th.
13:02:13 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: looogggssss...
13:02:14 <ChrisMorgan> :D
13:02:32 * Bensawsome slaps ChrisMorgan
13:02:33 <Bensawsome> evil logs =_=
13:02:37 <Bensawsome> ;)
13:03:00 <BrianALL> lol
13:03:07 <ChrisMorgan> Correction: the 31st.
13:04:08 <Bensawsome> :P
13:04:58 <Bazzz> i't seems like it could take some time to get to John.
13:05:15 * Seth_Hikaru is away: I'm doing stuff.
13:05:17 <Bazzz> Maybe one of you guys could mail him for me
13:05:32 <Bazzz> if it's not to much trouble
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13:08:14 <BrianALL> I don't think so, the quickest way to contact him would be from either here or the forums, and I'm not sure how he (or anyone for that matter) would react to someone asking to change another user's login.
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13:14:37 <Bazzz> kj
13:14:39 <Bazzz> merci
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13:29:16 <Gizmokid2005> hello BrianALL, ChrisMorgan
13:29:33 <BrianALL> hi Gizmokid2005
13:30:02 <Gizmokid2005> [sarcasm]Happy monday!!![/sarcasm[
13:30:04 <Gizmokid2005> *]
13:30:34 <BrianALL> ha, lol, I'm off school today! :p
13:30:44 * Gizmokid2005 glares
13:31:24 <BrianALL> there was a snow day during the exams last week and the teacher assessment day got bumped to today.
13:31:30 <BrianALL> :D
13:31:55 <BrianALL> plus, I have the afternoon off tomorrow as well
13:32:09 <BrianALL> so it's like an early march break. :)
13:32:16 <Gizmokid2005> must be nice :P
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13:32:23 <Gizmokid2005> I had most of last week off....sick of course
13:32:47 <BrianALL> that sucks,( being sick)
13:33:16 <Bensawsome> :S
13:33:16 <Gizmokid2005> BrianALL: what sucks more, is even though I was sick all last week, I worked 4 hours wednesday, 9 thursday and friday, 10 saturday and 8 sunday...
13:33:24 <Bensawsome> :SSSSS
13:33:29 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yeah...
13:33:36 <BrianALL> D:
13:35:31 <Bensawsome> oh anyone have any older computers they dont need anymore >_> what im doing is taking donated computers, refurbishing them, putting some linux distro on them along with oo.org and donating them to less fortunate people :D
13:36:39 <BrianALL> nice initiative.
13:36:49 <Bensawsome> ty ^_^
13:39:35 <BrianALL> I had a workstation from the mid 90s that had been running NT, and I put DSL on it and it worked ok, but was still a bit slow running firefox and a few other mid-size apps in that distro.
13:40:56 <Bensawsome> currently i only have one computer and im trying to figure out what distro to put on it... i want it to be easy to use.... but ubuntu or xubuntu wont run on it :'(
13:41:09 <BrianALL> It obviously depends on how old they are, I would never be able to run a *buntu distro off that one without upgrading the hardware.
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13:41:18 <Bensawsome> MaienM :D
13:41:19 <Bensawsome> lol
13:41:25 <MaienM> hello all :)
13:41:27 <Bensawsome> now i forgot what iw anted to ask you -_-
13:41:36 <BrianALL> DSL is... um... not exactly easy to use for an average user
13:41:43 <Bensawsome> ya :S exactly ;D
13:41:51 <BrianALL> hi MaienM
13:42:07 <Bensawsome> i need a really easy to use distro :'(
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13:42:52 <BrianALL> how old is the comp you want to install it on?
13:43:01 <Gizmokid2005> hello MaienM
13:43:05 <Bensawsome> hmmm
13:43:16 <BrianALL> have you looked at puppy linux?
13:43:16 <Bensawsome> i can tell you the specs >_>
13:43:38 <Bensawsome> 1.11 ghz 128mb of ram... cant remember the hd size thogh >_>
13:44:00 <Bensawsome> is it REALLY easy to use?
13:45:14 <BrianALL> I haven't personally tried it, but it looks like it. Comes with most software preinstalled, and it looks way better than DSL but lighter than ubuntu.
13:45:28 <BrianALL> .g Puppy Linux
13:45:30 <GizmoBot> BrianALL: http://www.puppylinux.org/
13:45:56 <Bensawsome> well i have the livecd for it >_>
13:46:06 <Bensawsome> i wish i could go even with an older version of ubuntu though :(
13:46:16 <Bensawsome> i dunno what version supports that comp though :
13:46:19 <Bensawsome> :'(
13:46:35 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: try 7.10
13:46:41 <Gizmokid2005> or even 6.10 for that matter
13:47:37 <Bensawsome> hmmmmm
13:49:31 <BrianALL> http://puppylinux.org/wiki/hardware/general/minreq
13:49:46 <BrianALL> 128 megs ram minimum
13:50:02 <Bensawsome> lol see they will all barely run on 128 mb :'(
13:50:12 <Bensawsome> hmm if i could only upgrade the ram slightly...
13:50:52 <Gizmokid2005> gah
13:51:00 <Bensawsome> gah?
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13:51:25 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I've narrowed it down to these three boards: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200022%201070930149%201075707618%201073507581&StoreType=-1&CompareItemList=N82E16813135075%2cN82E16813138113%2cN82E16813157139&bop=And
13:51:29 <Bensawsome> hello matborden. Need anything?
13:51:32 <Gizmokid2005> hello matborden, is there anything we can help you with?
13:53:37 <Bazzz> nice
13:53:40 <Bazzz> .g CNN
13:53:41 <GizmoBot> Bazzz: http://www.cnn.com/
13:53:48 <Bazzz> cool
13:53:49 <Bazzz> :P
13:54:06 <matborden> im making a launcher, and the program leaves files in appdata, and i cant seem to delete them.
13:55:35 <matborden> RMDir $APPDATA\IMVU2 shuld do it, but it isnt
13:56:41 <Bensawsome> hmm im not sure about this :S im not that good with nsis :S
13:57:28 <Bensawsome> hmm i think ChrisMorgan may be able to help if he is here
14:05:30 <ChrisMorgan> ah! I am here now :-)
14:05:47 <ChrisMorgan> matborden: what's the app?
14:05:56 <ChrisMorgan> What does it leave in APPDATA?
14:06:28 <ChrisMorgan> to remove a directory which is *not* empty, you need to do "RMDir /r $APPDATA\IMVU2"
14:06:41 <ChrisMorgan> However, most apps don't put things in APPDATA unless they need them...
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14:11:14 <matborden> srry i was afk, the app is IMVU, its a 3D insatnt mesenger
14:11:34 <ChrisMorgan> .g IMVU
14:11:35 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: http://www.imvu.com/
14:11:41 <ChrisMorgan> But yeah, stick in the /r and it should work.
14:11:45 <ChrisMorgan> Use with caution though
14:11:50 <ChrisMorgan> What does it put in there?
14:12:26 <ChrisMorgan> If it is application data, try my APPDATA redirect script
14:12:28 <ChrisMorgan> .pa APPDATA Redirect for PortableApps.com Applications
14:12:36 <ChrisMorgan> .g site:portableapps.com APPDATA Redirect for PortableApps.com Applications
14:12:37 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: http://portableapps.com/node/17637
14:12:46 <ChrisMorgan> GizmoBot... grr
14:12:50 <Bensawsome> or .pa ;)
14:13:04 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: GizmoBot. It says it all.
14:13:16 <Bensawsome> .pa appdata redirect for portableapps.com applications
14:13:17 <matborden> thnx
14:13:24 <Bensawsome> ooh duh >< my bad :P
14:13:40 <ChrisMorgan> .title http://portableapps.com/node/17637
14:13:41 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: APPDATA Redirect for PortableApps.com Applications, version 0.2 | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
14:13:53 * ChrisMorgan needs to finish off 0.3 and publish it
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14:23:40 <ChrisMorgan> markomlm: got a bit of time to provide some German translations for a few minor strings in BPBible?
14:24:37 <Gizmokid2005> flashdrive anyone?? http://www.buy.com/prod/kingston-64gb-datatraveler-150-flash-drive/q/loc/101/210199009.html?adid=17070&dcaid=17070
14:24:47 <ChrisMorgan> "Case sensitive" has been translated as "Klein-/Großschreibung beruecksichtigen" which doesn't seem quite right - comment?
14:25:25 <ChrisMorgan> and "Match only if case the same" was translated as "Beruecksichtigt Klein-/Großschreibung"
14:26:15 <ChrisMorgan> It's the -/ which doesn't really seem right, and Google Translate hasn't really helped.
14:26:54 <markomlm> ChrisMorgan:ChrisMorgan: First should be better "Groß-/Kleinschreibung beachten"
14:27:03 <ChrisMorgan> Ubiquity reports that Google Translate translates the first as "Beruecksichtigt Klein-/Großschreibung"
14:27:14 <ChrisMorgan> it's all a mess, however you look at it ;-)
14:27:16 <markomlm> For the second one I need the context
14:27:18 <ChrisMorgan> So why the -/?
14:27:38 <ChrisMorgan> It's in the search box I think, just the opposite of case sensitive, that's all
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14:28:16 <ChrisMorgan> sorry, "Match only if case is same"
14:30:44 <markomlm> In German there is no equivalent to the English expression. You have to use Upper-/Lower case ...
14:32:21 <markomlm> Second String: Groß-/Kleinschreibung <-Shorter and the same You'll get in the seachbox of German notepad
14:32:24 <ChrisMorgan> ok. So why is it -/, or is that just the way it is?
14:33:51 <ChrisMorgan> Google Translate on the original second phrase provides "Match nur dann, wenn der gleiche Fall" which I presume isn't entirely accurate :P
14:35:02 <markomlm> ChrisMorgan: The Groß- is the Short of Großschreibung the / is the Short of 'and' You have to write 'Großschreibung und Kleinschreibung beachten' or shorter 'Groß-/Kleinschreibung beachten'
14:36:23 <markomlm> with - You are able to cut double parts of words in list with the same content in list and so on
14:37:49 <markomlm> For example: Englischsprachig, Deutschsprachig, Russischsprachig is ugly Englisch-, Deutsch-, Russischsprachig is better
14:37:58 <markomlm> ... and shorter ;-)
14:38:09 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
14:38:18 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks for explaining it to me :-)
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14:38:51 <ZachThibeau> back y'all
14:39:34 <markomlm> ChrisMorgan:Your welcome. :-)
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14:45:45 <ZachThibeau> howdy powerjuce
14:47:43 <powerjuce> hey guys
14:48:09 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: so, I hear that you wish to claim "dibs" on CodeLite?
14:48:18 <ZachThibeau> I already have :P
14:48:27 <ZachThibeau> I'm still working out some kinks in my launcher
14:48:39 <ZachThibeau> and once I do I'm posting a dev test
14:48:42 <ZachThibeau> :P
14:48:56 <ZachThibeau> Steve Lamerton suggested it for me
14:48:57 <ChrisMorgan> (foiled!)
14:49:03 * ChrisMorgan was going to do it :-(
14:49:12 <ChrisMorgan> Then Steve told me that you were :-(
14:49:39 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: how bout I work on it and then you help with bugs :P like a collaborative effort :)
14:50:04 <ZachThibeau> maybe your effort not so much on just bugs but it's an idea
14:50:29 <ChrisMorgan> how big is it?
14:50:56 <ChrisMorgan> SF is slowwww....
14:50:59 <ZachThibeau> just the ide alone it's about 12 megs upx'd already
14:51:11 <Bensawsome> sf is slowwww :P
14:51:17 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: I've migrated vba-m to google code XD
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14:51:36 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: statbot fail :P
14:51:38 <ChrisMorgan> 13MB download...
14:51:40 <ChrisMorgan> :D
14:51:44 <ZachThibeau> nice
14:51:47 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau: no regenerating :P
14:52:14 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: so you like my proposal? this way we both can have dibs on it and we can ensure it's quality
14:52:28 <ZachThibeau> maybe get it in pr sooner that way too :)
14:52:32 <ChrisMorgan> I'll have to see what it is that you've got, need, etc.
14:52:48 <ZachThibeau> ok after I do some stuff to it I'll post my launcher source for you
14:52:49 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: do you have a Gmail account?
14:53:01 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: do I? psshhh Of course :P
14:53:07 <ZachThibeau> thibeaz@gmail.com
14:53:09 * Bensawsome has a google apps email acount :D
14:53:10 <Bensawsome> lol
14:53:22 <Bensawsome> wow ZachThibeau fail :P logs are publicly accesible ;D
14:53:46 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: I don't care :P I've been getting spam in my mail box since I created it XD
14:53:52 <Bensawsome> :P
14:53:58 <ZachThibeau> I get maybe like nearly 200 a day :P
14:54:10 <Bensawsome> XD
14:54:14 <ZachThibeau> all caught by the spam filter :P
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14:54:20 <Bensawsome> lol
14:54:28 <ChrisMorgan|away> back in maybe 15 minutes
14:54:47 <ChrisMorgan|away> I find that the spam filter has started catching some group mailing list things as phishing now
14:54:49 <ZachThibeau> kk
14:55:06 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan|away: really :/ thats new as I haven't had that
14:55:08 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.gizmokid2005.com/images/server_uptime.png <-- and people ask why I run a windows (XP) server?? :D
14:55:11 <Bensawsome> lol see it sometimes catches email;s you dont want :P
14:55:27 <ChrisMorgan|away> ZachThibeau: started a few weeks ago.
14:55:33 <ChrisMorgan|away> It's filtered 3 or 4 from me
14:55:34 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan|away: your brother makes some interesting questions and point in the sword project mailing list :P
14:55:41 <ZachThibeau> *points
14:55:45 <ChrisMorgan|away> yeah, of course he does :-)
14:55:48 <ChrisMorgan|away> bbs
14:55:52 <ZachThibeau> kk
14:56:11 <ChrisMorgan|away> ZachThibeau: check your gmail chat pane, I should be begging for an invitation ;-)
14:56:28 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan|away: you know you don't need invites for gmail now right?
14:56:33 <Bensawsome> lol XD
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14:58:56 <ZachThibeau> :P
14:59:01 <Bensawsome> :P
14:59:10 <ZachThibeau> checking now
14:59:24 <ZachThibeau> and I don't use the gmail chat pane :P
14:59:34 <ZachThibeau> google talk FTW
15:00:09 <Gizmokid2005> pidgin ftw :P
15:00:09 <Gizmokid2005> brb
15:01:22 <ZachThibeau> pidgin FTL for me D:
15:01:29 <ZachThibeau> too buggy for me to use
15:02:16 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan|away: I don't see your begging invite yet :/
15:02:24 <ZachThibeau> neither in the gmail chat or google talk
15:03:21 <Bensawsome> lol
15:04:42 <Bensawsome> hey ZachThibeau: do you have a comp that runs a linux os 24/7?
15:05:00 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: I do indeed :P
15:05:04 <Bensawsome> ccool :D
15:05:10 <Bensawsome> hmmm what distro?
15:05:20 <ZachThibeau> my parents computer is what linux is running on and it's Linux Mint
15:05:37 <Bensawsome> oh >_>
15:06:06 <ZachThibeau> modified to work for me though ;)
15:06:15 <ZachThibeau> parents don't know that yet though :P
15:06:26 <Bensawsome> XD
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15:16:05 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: look again now
15:16:22 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:16:27 <ZachThibeau> got it
15:16:37 <Bensawsome> no your supposed to say you didnt get it ZachThibeau :P
15:17:13 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: don't make me virtually slap you :P
15:17:20 <ZachThibeau> silly that is :P
15:17:21 <Bensawsome> :P
15:17:29 * Bensawsome eats ZachThibeau's virtual hands
15:17:33 <Bensawsome> no slapping for you :P
15:17:45 * ZachThibeau slaps Bensawsome silly with his feet
15:17:47 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:17:47 <ChrisMorgan> So, which package are you working with? CodeLite by itself, with MinGW, or with MinGW+wx, or the first, with the second and third as plugin installers?
15:17:52 <ZachThibeau> you forgot my feet
15:18:09 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: codelite IDE and then mingw and possibly wxWidgets as an addon
15:18:22 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: that's called kicking. Back to serious stuff :P
15:18:24 * Bensawsome eats all of ZachThibeau's extremities
15:18:31 <Bensawsome> legs arms head :P
15:18:37 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: my feet are flat they can slap
15:18:53 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: I wear a size 13 shoe size
15:18:54 <ChrisMorgan> Personally I reckon it should be CodeLite, and then MinGW and wxWidgets as plugin installers.
15:19:05 <ChrisMorgan> So?
15:19:07 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: exactly when I said as addons :P
15:19:24 <ZachThibeau> I call the plugin installer addons XD
15:19:44 <ChrisMorgan> oh, I was thinking CodeLite IDE and mingw, and possibly wx...
15:19:48 <Bensawsome> :P
15:19:51 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:19:54 <Bensawsome> :P
15:20:02 <ChrisMorgan> :(
15:20:06 <Bensawsome> :)
15:20:09 <Bensawsome> lol im done ;)
15:20:14 <ChrisMorgan> :
15:20:19 <Bensawsome> LOL
15:20:20 <ZachThibeau> I would like to actually make a custom mingw package for it though
15:20:38 <ZachThibeau> something to enhance but yet remain slim :)
15:21:17 <ChrisMorgan> So have two MinGW packs, slim and full?
15:21:28 <ChrisMorgan> Personally I've been wondering about where MinGW should go.
15:22:14 <ChrisMorgan> CodeLitePortable\App\CodeLite\mingw (or whatever it does) is not a good idea, I think. MinGW is used by other apps as well. You should be able to configure the path to where it is, so I wonder whether you should have:
15:22:33 <ChrisMorgan> a) CommonFiles\MinGW (CommonFiles being a sibling of the directory to which CodeLitePortable is installed)
15:23:00 <ZachThibeau> I would say probably mingw should be in either Documents/mingw or in PortableApps/CommonFiles
15:23:03 <ChrisMorgan> b) MinGWPortable\App\MinGW, and use MSYS
15:23:09 <ChrisMorgan> DOCUMENTS!?
15:23:16 <ChrisMorgan> It's /binaries/
15:23:28 <ZachThibeau> whatever :P
15:23:28 <ChrisMorgan> CommonFiles or MinGWPortable (or MSYSPortable?)
15:23:46 <ZachThibeau> msys tends to break things
15:24:00 <ZachThibeau> especially compiling toucan
15:24:14 <ChrisMorgan> It'd need a fair bit of work with the launcher.
15:24:24 <ChrisMorgan> Handling all the /whatnot paths
15:25:06 <ZachThibeau> hmm
15:25:31 * ChrisMorgan dibs, /me dibs :P
15:26:41 * Bensawsome disb all open source apps >_>
15:26:41 <ChrisMorgan> MSYS is good and bad. It provides an rxvt shell. It sets up the paths so that *nix apps may work where they don't with win32 paths. It may confuse compiled apps into thinking they need *nix-type paths.
15:26:46 <Bensawsome> *dibs
15:26:48 <Bensawsome> :P
15:26:53 <ChrisMorgan> You failed...
15:27:09 <Bensawsome> your face failed :P
15:27:10 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: yes and no
15:27:22 <ChrisMorgan> DIB * WHERE OpenSource = 'yes'
15:27:27 <ChrisMorgan> ./dib *.opensource
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15:27:36 <ZachThibeau> at least according to mingw.org
15:27:39 <ChrisMorgan> yes and no what?
15:27:39 <Bensawsome> /dib *.opensource
15:27:41 <Bensawsome> :P
15:27:56 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: A common misunderstanding is MSYS is "UNIX on Windows", MSYS by itself does not contain a compiler or a C library, therefore does not give the ability to magically port UNIX programs over to Windows nor does it provide any UNIX specific functionality like case-sensitive filenames. Users looking for such functionality should look to Cygwin or Microsoft's Interix instead.
15:28:11 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:28:23 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: I know that :-)
15:28:30 <ZachThibeau> just making sure :P
15:28:32 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau: can andlinux c ompile???
15:28:35 * ChrisMorgan is an omnipotent bunny... or something like that. Remember those SF ads?
15:28:39 <Bensawsome> i wanna try to coimpile znc on it :P
15:28:49 <ChrisMorgan> :/
15:28:56 * Bensawsome eats the bunny
15:29:02 <Bensawsome> mmmmm
15:29:10 <ChrisMorgan> Ah... Drupal, Drupal, everywhere...
15:29:23 <Bensawsome> evil drupal =_=
15:30:23 * ChrisMorgan eats the Bensawsome
15:30:23 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: afaik it might be able too
15:30:29 * Bensawsome eats all traces of drupal anywhere in the universe =_=
15:30:32 * ZachThibeau eats ChrisMorgan and fails
15:30:38 <Bensawsome> i tried once but i think its missing binaries ZachThibeau :(
15:30:38 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: so, what problems are you having with CodeLite Portable?
15:30:39 <Bensawsome> err
15:30:41 <Bensawsome> packages
15:30:52 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: what, me? :P
15:30:55 <ChrisMorgan> Or Drupal? :P
15:31:04 <Bensawsome> i ate all traces of drupal :P
15:31:18 <Bensawsome> and i was telling ZachThibeau i think andlinux is missing some packages
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15:31:31 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: erhmm maybe not problems but I'm looking for problems :P making sure it's skin tight so nothing is left behind period
15:31:33 <ZachThibeau> brb
15:31:34 <Bensawsome> hey ZachThibeau: how you rename a folder in bash? :P
15:31:40 <Bensawsome> i cant remember =_=
15:31:41 <Bensawsome> lol
15:31:58 * Bensawsome pokes ZachThibeau
15:32:03 <Bensawsome> nooo come back XD
15:32:11 <ChrisMorgan> /BENSAWSOME/!?
15:32:24 <Bensawsome> /CHRISMORGAN/
15:32:31 <Bensawsome> lol
15:32:34 <Bensawsome> what :P
15:32:53 <ChrisMorgan> You don't know how to rename a folder in bash!?
15:32:59 <ChrisMorgan> he he he... try:
15:32:59 <Bensawsome> no :P
15:33:03 <ChrisMorgan> .g rename folder bash
15:33:04 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
15:33:11 <Bensawsome> >_>
15:33:31 <ChrisMorgan> Funny that... it agrees with me: mv
15:33:40 <ChrisMorgan> Windows: ren. *nix: mv.
15:34:05 <Bensawsome> WOW
15:34:10 <ZachThibeau> back
15:34:10 <Bensawsome> i think iu got it ZachThibeau :D
15:34:16 <Bensawsome> lol
15:34:16 <ZachThibeau> just making some food
15:34:29 <Bensawsome> anywho ZachThibeau it says it needs the c++ compoiling stuff i think :(
15:35:02 * ChrisMorgan needs a >-1-extra-component installer for doing MinGW Portable properly
15:35:05 <ZachThibeau> if you have andLinux installed you can actually use synaptic package manager to install it
15:35:11 <Bensawsome> ?
15:35:19 * Bensawsome wonders how you do that and where to get it >_>
15:35:40 <ZachThibeau> it's in the tray icon at the system tray :P
15:35:51 <ZachThibeau> right click it and it should be an option
15:35:55 * Bensawsome has no trayu icon for andlinux >_>
15:35:59 <Bensawsome> *tray
15:36:01 * ZachThibeau does
15:36:15 <ChrisMorgan> .g andLinux synaptic
15:36:15 <ChrisMorgan> *snore*
15:36:15 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: if in danger, .g
15:36:16 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: http://onlineapps.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/30/1523267-andlinux-a-great-way-to-virtualize-linux-inside-of-windows
15:36:23 <Bensawsome> .....
15:36:25 <Bensawsome> wow fail
15:36:26 <Bensawsome> lol
15:36:31 <Bensawsome> lag
15:36:47 <Bensawsome> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
15:36:51 <Bensawsome> lol that what i got ;)
15:36:57 <ZachThibeau> :/
15:37:21 <ZachThibeau> you need to install stuff through synaptic Doode :P
15:37:24 <Bensawsome> lol
15:37:27 * Bensawsome cries T_T
15:37:48 * Bensawsome wantsx his dang icon back T_T_T_T
15:38:06 <ZachThibeau> :|
15:38:20 <Bensawsome> GROWL
15:38:21 <Bensawsome> lol
15:38:35 * Bensawsome is going to have to restart he thinks :'(
15:38:43 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: do you mind stopping Bensawsome from crying with maybe like a /mode +q Bensawsome
15:38:50 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:38:54 <Bensawsome> :'(
15:39:27 <onestoploser> So you're enjoying andLinux ZachThibeau?
15:39:29 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: what icon?
15:39:43 <ZachThibeau> onestoploser: I don't have it anymore :P
15:39:56 <onestoploser> :P
15:40:01 <onestoploser> Who's running it?
15:40:07 <onestoploser> Bensawsome?
15:40:07 <ZachThibeau> reformated to use with Fedora 10 which fails beyond belief and am now back with Vista
15:40:12 <onestoploser> lol
15:40:17 <onestoploser> Is Fedora that bad?
15:40:20 <ChrisMorgan> /mode +q ZachThibeau
15:40:24 <ChrisMorgan> whoops, wrong person :P
15:40:24 <onestoploser> What's so bad about it?
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15:40:51 <ZachThibeau> onestoploser: everything
15:41:01 <onestoploser> lol
15:41:13 <ZachThibeau> it's not as customizable as debian and everything including basic apps needed are not included
15:41:19 <ChrisMorgan> onestoploser: obviously you haven't used it (conspiratorial ;-) to ZachThibeau :P)
15:41:28 <ChrisMorgan> (smug look)
15:41:41 <onestoploser> I upgraded Ubuntu over the weekend. Ibex is waaay better.
15:41:53 * onestoploser hates smug looks...
15:41:55 <onestoploser> lol
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15:42:15 <onestoploser> Hi powerjuce
15:42:37 <ZachThibeau> onestoploser: jaunty is better :P
15:42:50 <onestoploser> It's beta though right?
15:43:11 <Bensawsome> aaaa my computer isfreezing ZachThibeau T_T
15:43:25 <onestoploser> There were programs I couldn't get to work with Heron that work now with Ibex.
15:43:55 <ZachThibeau> onestoploser: alpha :P
15:44:00 <ZachThibeau> and it rocks so far :D
15:44:14 <ZachThibeau> ohh got to reboot now
15:44:18 <ZachThibeau> update finished installing
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15:44:38 <Bensawsome> .....
15:44:56 <onestoploser> I'll stick with Ibex for now. I don't need to mess with alpha releases yet...
15:45:24 <Bensawsome> hmmm now what do i installl >_>
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15:48:37 <onestoploser> powerjuce has issues. lol\
15:49:18 <ChrisMorgan> http://www.tdragon.net/tdminst/net-manifest.txt - can see the various components of the MinGW "download-what-you-need-when-you-need-it" installer
15:51:08 * Bensawsome needs to know what packages to download for andlinux to compile znc >_>
15:51:22 <onestoploser> Google
15:51:24 <onestoploser> :D
15:52:10 <Bensawsome> -_-
15:52:14 * Bensawsome slaps onestoploser :P
15:52:22 <onestoploser> lol
15:52:25 <Bensawsome> its some of the basic c++ ones but i cant find which ones :(
15:52:46 <onestoploser> And you can't use Synaptic?
15:52:56 <Bensawsome> i am! but i dont know which ones to get :(
15:52:57 <Bensawsome> hmmm
15:53:04 <Bensawsome> maybe i should just get all of them >_>
15:53:10 <onestoploser> see if you can get znc.
15:53:15 <Bensawsome> lol
15:53:19 <Bensawsome> apt-get install znc?
15:53:32 <onestoploser> It will automatically dl the ones you need. Searh znc in Synaptic.
15:53:34 <Bensawsome> omg...
15:53:37 <Bensawsome> you c an...
15:53:38 <Bensawsome> wtf
15:53:51 <onestoploser> lmao
15:53:59 <ChrisMorgan> oy.
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15:54:02 <Bensawsome> ok now im pissed =_=
15:54:03 <Bensawsome> lol
15:54:08 <ChrisMorgan> oy.
15:54:19 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau: you can get znc directly from the synaptic thing XD
15:54:30 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:54:31 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: that's what ZachThibeau said...
15:54:35 <Bensawsome> .....
15:54:38 <ZachThibeau> I should of said that to you :P
15:54:44 * Bensawsome cires T_T
15:54:45 <Bensawsome> now..
15:54:51 <Bensawsome> how i execute it >_>
15:54:52 <Bensawsome> oh lunch
15:55:04 <MaienM> just type "znc" in bash :P
15:55:05 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: I said the tools he needs to compile is there I didn't say znc was there :P
15:55:18 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: http://www.tdragon.net/tdminst/net-manifest.txt - can see the various components of the MinGW "download-what-you-need-when-you-need-it" installer :-) Browsing their installer code in CVS...
15:55:18 <ZachThibeau> MaienM: correct :D you get a gold star
15:55:27 <MaienM> :)
15:56:09 <ZachThibeau> hmm interesting ChrisMorgan
15:56:55 <onestoploser> Bensawsome: lol
15:57:25 <ChrisMorgan> http://mingw.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/mingw/MinGW/ - start in setup_webdl.nsi and setup_full.nsi, it all makes sense :-)
15:57:33 <ChrisMorgan> "dibbed"
15:57:51 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:58:11 <ChrisMorgan> So then, I think probably MinGWPortable\App\MinGW\bin\gcc.exe will end up the gcc path, not CommonFiles.
15:58:23 <ChrisMorgan> And just use MSYS as the MinGWPortable app.
15:58:33 <ZachThibeau> I like the new table setup in http://portableapps.com/development/test/status In fact I was going to suggest it but it seems someone beat me to it
15:59:35 <ZachThibeau> anyways I need to work on QtWebPortable and NSISPortable
15:59:43 <ZachThibeau> get those released asap
16:01:09 <ZachThibeau> John needs to make the PR style for NSISPortable :P
16:01:21 <ZachThibeau> or it's stuck at Dev Test until he does it :P
16:02:17 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: you mean the splash screen?
16:02:28 <ChrisMorgan> Put in another comment in the DT page, that's how John finally did the inkscape one
16:02:32 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
16:02:57 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon though that the d/t/s tables need cell borders and backgrounds.
16:03:07 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: he wants to use a new splash for the nsis.exe file and remove the external splash as far as I understood him
16:04:57 <ChrisMorgan> ah, in the pesky launch panel which doesn't pass on command line parameters>
16:04:58 <ChrisMorgan> ?
16:05:20 <ZachThibeau> yes
16:05:28 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: I reckon that if you get passed a command line parameter which ends in ".nsh", you should run makensisw.exe instead of the launch panel.
16:05:35 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, ".nsi"
16:06:06 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: John wants the launch panel and I agree with him there
16:06:16 <ZachThibeau> it gives front access to all the tools users need
16:07:00 <Bensawsome> lol MaienM :P
16:07:18 <Bensawsome> WIN
16:07:21 <Bensawsome> IT WORKS :D
16:07:35 <ZachThibeau> O_o
16:07:37 <ZachThibeau> :P
16:07:37 <MaienM> ofcourse it does :P
16:07:47 <onestoploser> IT'S ALIVE!!!
16:07:49 <onestoploser> lol
16:07:51 * Bensawsome slaps onestoploser
16:07:55 <Bensawsome> snap out of it :P
16:08:02 <ZachThibeau> onestoploser: prepare the shock panels Igor :P
16:08:03 * onestoploser blocks and counters.
16:08:11 <onestoploser> XD
16:08:57 <Bensawsome> O_O
16:09:03 <Bensawsome> it doesnt have all the modules :'(
16:09:44 <Bensawsome> YES i think it will work >_>
16:09:44 <MaienM> then download them :P
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16:10:00 <MaienM> wb ZachT|AFK ;)
16:10:01 <ZachT|AFK> D:
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16:10:23 <ZachT|AFK> stupid update for my wifi adapter kicked me off the net without telling me :(
16:10:33 <ZachT|AFK> I got to restart now D:
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16:10:42 <ZachT|AFK> brb
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16:11:23 <Bensawsome> grrr its not connecting :'(
16:11:26 <Bensawsome> i hate windows =_=
16:11:36 <WastePotato> ?
16:11:44 <MaienM> have you set up everything right Bensawsome? :P
16:11:50 <MaienM> (guess not :P)
16:12:13 <Bensawsome> yes i have -_-
16:12:37 <MaienM> well if its not working you haven't :P
16:16:27 <ChrisMorgan> .tell ZachThibeau I think that if the launcher gets given a file with the nsi extension, it should go straight to makensisw.exe, with command-line arguments intact, rather than the launch panel. In all other cases use the launch panel, by all means. It's easy enough to use a StrCmp on the arguments to see if the last four characters are .nsi or the last five .nsi". How about it?
16:16:28 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: As pabot is currently down, please use MemoServ instead so no .tells are missed. (/msg MemoServ help)
16:16:47 <ChrisMorgan> :o
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16:16:49 <ChrisMorgan> goodnight all
16:17:21 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: I think that if the launcher gets given a file with the nsi extension, it should go straight to makensisw.exe, with command-line arguments intact, rather than the launch panel. In all other cases use the launch panel, by all means. It's easy enough to use a StrCmp on the arguments to see if the last four characters are .nsi or the last five .nsi". How about it? (Heard that before?)
16:17:35 <ChrisMorgan> pabot is down, so you don't get a tell :P
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16:39:49 <Gizmokid2005> lunchtime!!!
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16:42:50 <WastePotato> omnomnom
16:43:05 <Mir> ahh
16:43:11 <Mir> breakfast time
16:43:30 * Mir goes to make waffles
16:44:47 <onestoploser> I ate a Hot Pocket for breakfast.
16:44:53 <onestoploser> Mmmm....
16:44:54 <onestoploser> lol
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16:57:12 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
16:57:22 <BrianALL> hi OliverK, SteveLamerton
16:57:24 <OliverK> howdy SteveLamerton
16:57:33 <OliverK> Bensawsome: available for PM?
16:57:38 <SteveLamerton> Hi BrianALL, OliverK
16:58:34 *** rcmaehl (n=user@96-28-92-129.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps
16:58:48 <rcmaehl> hi
16:59:02 <OliverK> howdy rcmaehl
16:59:04 <BrianALL> hi rcmaehl
16:59:37 <rcmaehl> you guys know i have a channel no right?
16:59:57 * onestoploser spams rcmaehl's channel.
17:00:12 <onestoploser> lol jk
17:00:22 <rcmaehl> it's: #computofix
17:01:22 <OliverK> rcmaehl: /whois rcmaehl
17:01:30 <OliverK> noted
17:01:35 <rcmaehl> any way can you guys make me a bot for my channel
17:01:39 <OliverK> rc
17:01:41 <OliverK> crap
17:01:56 <OliverK> rcmaehl: no, but, you could download the phenny base that our bot is from
17:01:59 <OliverK> .g phenny
17:02:00 <GizmoBot> OliverK: http://inamidst.com/phenny/
17:02:05 <OliverK> hi gizmo
17:02:48 <rcmaehl> phenny doesn't work
17:03:29 <ZachThibeau> rcmaehl: you need to run it with python installed
17:04:03 <rcmaehl> i tried
17:04:36 <OliverK> you then need to con to app data and configure it
17:05:50 <OliverK> C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\.phenny\
17:06:03 <OliverK> and rename phenny to phenny.py
17:06:47 <rcmaehl> tried
17:06:58 <rcmaehl> did not show up in IRC
17:07:14 <OliverK> did you configure the file in app data
17:07:21 <OliverK> if not, then it fails
17:08:00 <rcmaehl> yes i tried
17:09:48 * OliverK can't help
17:09:58 <OliverK> try #swhack
17:10:17 <OliverK> nope
17:11:17 <OliverK> #swhack
17:11:19 <OliverK> try that
17:11:25 <rcmaehl> ok
17:13:46 <rcmaehl> haha... very funny
17:14:38 <OliverK> what?
17:14:47 <OliverK> i thought you might get some help
17:14:50 <rcmaehl> no help at all
17:14:55 <OliverK> btw sbp is the writer of the bot
17:15:05 <OliverK> i got help the last time i went there
17:15:25 <Bensawsome> rcmaehl: i can put my bot in ur channel >_>
17:15:54 <OliverK> Bensawsome!
17:15:58 <Bensawsome> OliverK!
17:16:02 <OliverK> heh
17:16:06 <rcmaehl> ME!
17:16:11 <Bensawsome> rcmaehl!
17:16:21 <BrianALL> O.o
17:16:22 <rcmaehl> Bensawsome: ?
17:16:26 <OliverK> ./kick rcmaehl
17:16:28 <OliverK> oops
17:16:29 <OliverK> :p
17:23:31 <excid3> sudo /kick :P
17:23:42 <OliverK> excid3: lol
17:23:47 <OliverK> that'd be awesome
17:24:07 <Bensawsome> kick/rejoin spam him :P
17:24:13 * excid3 thinks sudo is a good command that should be added to our bot :D
17:24:34 <MaienM> like .sudo kick someone :P
17:24:51 <Bensawsome> it doesnt even have a kick command :(
17:25:02 <MaienM> xD
17:25:07 <Bensawsome> MaienM: dude you should totally make a module with a kick/ban/mute command :P
17:25:09 <excid3> it needs to get one
17:25:10 <excid3> haha
17:25:11 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005
17:25:13 <excid3> time for class
17:25:16 <excid3> take care guys :P
17:25:16 <Bensawsome> cya excid3 ;)
17:25:19 *** excid3 is now known as excid3|class
17:25:26 <MaienM> Bensawsome: would be easy enough :P
17:25:27 <Bensawsome> hey Gizmokid2005 :)
17:25:30 <Gizmokid2005> hello Bensawsome
17:25:34 <Bensawsome> MaienM :D cool! XD
17:25:47 <MaienM> not saying I am going to xD
17:25:50 <Bensawsome> :'(
17:25:51 <Bensawsome> lol
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17:26:32 <Bensawsome> wow he must have used /part 0, ;D
17:26:48 <excid3|class> /join 0
17:26:53 <Bensawsome> oh ya :P
17:26:55 <excid3|class> im leaving for reals this time
17:27:01 <excid3|class> :P
17:27:02 * Bensawsome kick excid3|class out
17:27:05 <Bensawsome> gtfo noob :P
17:27:12 <excid3|class> haha
17:27:17 <excid3|class> peace in the east
17:28:31 <OliverK> that'll never happen
17:28:39 <Bensawsome> lol
17:31:01 *** OliverK changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com Support Channel | New Releases & Updates: http://PortableApps.com/News | Looking for support? Try saying "help!" | This channel is G-rated | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | We do not discuss, endorse, or support any kind of illegal software (e.g. Portable Photoshop, Microsoft Office)"
17:31:03 <rcmaehl> 127.0.0.1
17:31:19 <OliverK> rcmaehl: there's no place like 127.0.0.1 :D
17:31:30 <rcmaehl> that is Bensawsome's ip
17:32:15 <rcmaehl> statbot
17:32:26 <Bensawsome> lol :P
17:32:36 <rcmaehl> palogbot
17:32:37 <OliverK> rcmaehl: yours is 96-28-92-129
17:32:41 <Bensawsome> OliverK: i gots me a bumper sticker that says that :P
17:32:48 <OliverK> sweet
17:33:01 <Bensawsome> wait where do you guys see my ip as 127.0.0.1? :P
17:33:02 <rcmaehl> dude
17:33:06 <rcmaehl> sweet
17:33:09 <rcmaehl> dude
17:33:13 <rcmaehl> sweet
17:33:18 <rcmaehl> Dude!
17:33:22 <rcmaehl> Sweet!
17:33:24 <rcmaehl> DUDE!
17:33:28 <rcmaehl> SWEET!
17:33:43 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: enough of the "Dude, Where's my car?" lines
17:33:43 <rcmaehl> (it's form dude where's my car)
17:33:44 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: my bumber sticker is going to say "there's no place like 127.0.0.1"
17:35:28 <ZachThibeau> D: no one is commenting on my bumber sticker idea
17:36:10 <OliverK> ZachThibeau: there's a shirt that says
17:36:12 <OliverK> that
17:36:19 <OliverK> and Bensawsome has a sticker that says that :p
17:36:20 <BrianALL> ZachThibeau: lol :D
17:36:38 <ZachThibeau> :P
17:36:54 <ZachThibeau> BrianALL: so it seems that storm is only ammounting to 5cm now :P
17:37:08 <ZachThibeau> the other day it said 30/40cm :O
17:37:14 <BrianALL> :P
17:37:27 <BrianALL> pft, they change it around too much.
17:37:31 <Gizmokid2005> we aren't supposed to get any snow for a while around here :(
17:37:33 <Gizmokid2005> makes me sad
17:37:35 <Gizmokid2005> I love my snow
17:37:42 <ZachThibeau> BrianALL: this was from environment cananda I seen this XD
17:37:52 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: come to cananda and take all our snow please
17:37:56 <Bensawsome> hey ZachThibeau someone already had that idea :P
17:37:58 <OliverK> i like snow
17:38:01 <OliverK> i do not like -16
17:38:04 * Bensawsome loves snow :D
17:38:06 <OliverK> 20-30 is good
17:38:10 <OliverK> so long as there is no wind
17:38:10 * Bensawsome loves -16 :D
17:38:17 * ZachThibeau likes snow when it's melted and it becomes summer
17:38:22 <BrianALL> lol
17:38:24 <OliverK> then I hide inside, by the fire, with the laptop
17:38:25 * Bensawsome slaps ZachThibeau
17:38:29 <Bensawsome> dont say that :P
17:38:33 <OliverK> i'm wishing for some summer weather
17:38:34 <ZachThibeau> I can and I have
17:38:51 <BrianALL> i'll sell anyone the snowbank in my front yard if they want it.
17:38:52 <rcmaehl> join #computofix
17:39:07 <OliverK> i have my own thankyou
17:39:09 <OliverK> and some ice
17:39:11 <Gizmokid2005> BrianALL: you won't get much
17:39:17 <Gizmokid2005> I have a lot of snow in my yard
17:39:24 <BrianALL> :P
17:39:26 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I'll give my snow to you for free
17:39:29 <ZachThibeau> please take it
17:39:30 <Gizmokid2005> BrianALL: http://gallery.gizmokid2005.com/main.php?g2_itemId=5981 <-- see
17:39:32 <ZachThibeau> I hate it
17:39:59 <ZachThibeau> pshh Gizmokid2005 I have more :P
17:40:10 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: so do I, that was 3 weeks ago
17:40:11 <ZachThibeau> I'll have to show you my yard
17:40:26 <BrianALL> Gizmokid2005: nice.
17:40:30 <rcmaehl> hey you guys want the sno ball in my freezer (bidding starts at .25 cents)
17:40:51 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: that picture you showed was my yard first snowfall of the year in Miramichi XD
17:41:01 <Gizmokid2005> lol
17:41:11 <ZachThibeau> hold on
17:41:53 <BrianALL> id show pictures but i dont have them on hand or uploaded
17:42:50 <ZachThibeau> hold on I just took a picture of my yard now
17:42:52 <rcmaehl> my awesomebot eather is: Cloudy, 10℃, 993mb, Light breeze 4kt (↑) - LFBM 18:00, 1700Z
17:43:18 <BrianALL> you should have seen the snowfall we got 5 years ago,the snowbank was almost over my garage door.
17:43:24 <Gizmokid2005> .weather GRR
17:43:27 <GizmoBot> Overcast ☁, 30.2℉ (-1℃), 29.95in (1011mb), Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - KGRR 11:53, 1653Z
17:43:34 <ZachThibeau> BrianALL: I know thats was something
17:43:41 <ZachThibeau> BrianALL: wasn't that white jaun?
17:43:42 <OliverK> .weather RFD
17:43:43 <GizmoBot> No ICAO code found, sorry
17:43:47 <OliverK> phail
17:43:48 <BrianALL> yup
17:44:06 <ZachThibeau> BrianALL: I had to crawl out of the top window from my house XD
17:44:06 <rcmaehl> lol
17:44:19 <rcmaehl> awesome bot does defititions
17:44:26 <rcmaehl> (12:44:23 PM) Awsomebot: computer - 1. electronic data processor, 2. somebody who computes
17:44:36 <OliverK> .def beavis
17:44:40 <OliverK> crap
17:44:43 <BrianALL> lol, i was in grade five and had no school for a week, it was awesome.
17:44:44 <OliverK> .wiki beavis
17:44:50 <rcmaehl> .weather 40258
17:44:52 <GizmoBot> Cloudy, 10℃, 993mb, Light breeze 4kt (↑) - LFBM 18:00, 1700Z
17:45:05 <OliverK> .weather 61006
17:45:07 <GizmoBot> LFAO: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
17:45:11 <BrianALL> we could actually climb onto the roof of the school from the snobanks.
17:45:12 <rcmaehl> .dict computer
17:45:12 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: so does GizmoBot
17:45:13 <GizmoBot> computer - 1. electronic data processor, 2. somebody who computes
17:45:28 <Gizmokid2005> they are using the same bot
17:45:30 <rcmaehl> .dict IRC
17:45:31 <Gizmokid2005> basically
17:45:31 <GizmoBot> IRC - 1. utility for online group discussions
17:45:32 <Gizmokid2005> the phenny bot
17:45:37 <Gizmokid2005> .dict bot
17:45:38 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: Sorry, no definition found.
17:45:42 <Gizmokid2005> .tock
17:45:43 <GizmoBot> "Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:46:04 GMT" - tycho.usno.navy.mil
17:45:53 <rcmaehl> .dict Chat
17:45:54 <GizmoBot> Chat - 1. talk informally, 2. exchange messages by computer
17:46:14 <rcmaehl> .dict words
17:46:15 <GizmoBot> words - 1. meaningful unit of language sounds, 2. brief utterance
17:46:18 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: enough playing now :P
17:46:22 <ZachThibeau> .dict roflmao
17:46:23 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau: Sorry, no definition found.
17:46:24 <Gizmokid2005> take it to -ot if you want ;)
17:46:27 <rcmaehl> .dict play
17:46:29 <GizmoBot> play - 1. engage in enjoyable activities, 2. take part in game or sport
17:46:29 <BrianALL> Gizmokid2005: 10C, light breeze? your lucky. :D
17:46:45 <Gizmokid2005> BrianALL: that wasn't me
17:46:48 <rcmaehl> .weather F 40258
17:46:49 <GizmoBot> No ICAO code found, sorry
17:46:50 <Gizmokid2005> that was rcmaehl
17:46:59 <BrianALL> rcmael: Do that in PM with Gizmobot
17:47:02 <rcmaehl> how do you change to farenhiegt
17:47:09 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: convert it
17:47:10 <Gizmokid2005> lol
17:47:20 <rcmaehl> .commands
17:47:28 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: pm gizmobot
17:47:30 <MaienM> rcmaehl: go to pm, or -ot please
17:47:34 <Gizmokid2005> /msg GizmoBot .commands
17:47:37 <Gizmokid2005> use that rcmaehl
17:47:41 <BrianALL> PM!!! O.o
17:48:04 <ZachThibeau> image upload phail XD
17:48:14 <ZachThibeau> I need to modify the extention :P
17:48:21 <BrianALL> you're interrupting our extremely important weather conversation! :P
17:48:38 <ZachThibeau> BrianALL: it's related :P
17:48:50 <rcmaehl> .t GMT -5
17:48:51 <ZachThibeau> it's a picture of my yard all snowed in
17:48:51 <GizmoBot> rcmaehl: Sorry, I don't know about the 'GMT -5' timezone.
17:48:59 <rcmaehl> .t -5
17:49:00 <GizmoBot> Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:47:26 -5
17:49:13 <OliverK> rcmaehl: stop
17:49:15 <OliverK> now
17:49:17 <BrianALL> i was tlking about rcmaehl
17:49:21 <MaienM> rcmaehl: stop spamming this channel, PM GizmoBot or go to #portableapps-ot
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17:49:45 <ZachThibeau> O_O
17:49:55 <Gizmokid2005> O.o
17:50:00 <BrianALL> o.o
17:50:04 <BrianALL> o.0
17:50:07 <MaienM> ah, the sweet sound of silence (I know silence does not make a sound....)
17:50:16 <MaienM> :P
17:50:26 <BrianALL> MaienM: it pulses.
17:50:27 <ZachThibeau> MaienM: thats a fail :P
17:50:41 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: it does, the absense of sound
17:51:09 <MaienM> the absence of something is not the same as that thing :/
17:51:20 <MaienM> like, the absence of money is not the same as having money :P
17:52:02 <Gizmokid2005> :P
17:53:03 <ZachThibeau> orly?
17:54:53 * ZachThibeau saw that it was quiet tooo quiet and he didn't like it
17:55:04 <ZachThibeau> <_>
17:55:06 <OliverK> ZachThibeau is kicked
17:55:15 <ZachThibeau> <_>
17:55:21 <OliverK> whatever, that jokes no fun when I'm opped
17:55:43 <Gizmokid2005> that was YOU ZachThibeau?!?
17:55:46 <Gizmokid2005> /kick ZachThibeau
17:55:50 <ZachThibeau> O_o
17:55:52 <ZachThibeau> o_O
17:55:58 <ZachThibeau> no really
17:56:07 <ZachThibeau> my damn sister did that :S
17:56:33 * ZachThibeau hopes it passes
17:56:40 <OliverK> nope
17:56:43 <OliverK> phail
17:56:48 <OliverK> gizmo, the boot please :D
17:56:58 <ZachThibeau> no my unemployment check
17:57:00 <Gizmokid2005> /kick ZachThibeau
17:57:01 <ZachThibeau> :(
17:57:49 <ZachThibeau> I'm stil waiting for it :(
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18:00:01 <rcmaehl> ben!
18:00:17 <BrianALL> lols
18:01:14 <OliverK> run to the hills :D
18:01:20 <OliverK> rcmaehl: joking
18:01:59 <rcmaehl> how do you put a bot on your channel after it's created
18:02:09 <OliverK> its in the config
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18:02:23 <OliverK> look, we're not really a support group for phenny
18:02:33 <OliverK> we'll give you pointers if we can
18:02:33 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005 and BrianALL http://zachthibeau.com/image/image/P1000644.png
18:02:43 <Gizmokid2005> SLOOOOWWW hosting ZachThibeau
18:02:53 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: thats your server dumy
18:02:54 <OliverK> .png Gizmokid2005
18:02:56 <Gizmokid2005> nice yard btw
18:02:59 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK: so?
18:03:07 <ZachThibeau> ty Gizmokid2005
18:03:11 <Gizmokid2005> yw ZachThibeau
18:03:17 <OliverK> 3072x2305
18:03:19 <ZachThibeau> and yeah Gizmokid2005 thats your server :P
18:03:24 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: I know...
18:03:26 <ZachThibeau> :P
18:03:27 <Gizmokid2005> it's depressing
18:03:29 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK: yeah.
18:03:32 <OliverK> ZachThibeau: nice
18:03:32 <BrianALL> nice
18:03:45 <Gizmokid2005> of course...EIGHT MB...
18:03:47 <OliverK> i had stnow that was up the the windows of my care
18:03:58 <ZachThibeau> where I live is it's in between 2 snow lines D:
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18:04:05 <Gizmokid2005> that's not so bad I suppose...i was expecting like 3M MAYBE...
18:04:15 <OliverK> course, I dirve a little buick so its not hard
18:04:40 <ZachThibeau> you dirve :P
18:04:47 <OliverK> ZachThibeau: yup :D
18:04:49 <ZachThibeau> normally people drive
18:04:50 <ZachThibeau> :P
18:04:51 <OliverK> clear the roads
18:05:20 <ZachThibeau> yeah but people drive not dirve :P
18:05:53 <OliverK> ZachThibeau: point taken
18:05:56 <ZachThibeau> :P
18:06:04 <ZachThibeau> sorry felt like pulling your leg there :P
18:06:11 <OliverK> no worries
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18:19:13 <BrianALL> i g2g, might be back on later.
18:19:17 <BrianALL> cya
18:19:29 <WastePotato> Bai.
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18:29:32 <Gizmokid2005> [13:29:37] <christel> [>> $*] [Global Notice] Hi all, It would appear one of our client servers just dropped off the face of the planet. We're looking into the issue and should hopefully have it back soon. Affected users just over 2,000. Apologies for the inconvenience and have a good day.
18:29:33 <Gizmokid2005> uh-oh
18:29:49 <OliverK> calvin0.freenode,net no doubt
18:30:01 <OliverK> couple just dropped from #swhack]
18:34:52 <OliverK> http://intellilaunch.co.cc/
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18:39:55 <ZachThibeau> later all
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19:17:49 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005
19:22:13 <Gizmokid2005> so I've pretty much built my computer
19:22:28 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166006
19:22:28 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135075
19:22:28 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103472
19:22:28 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227181
19:22:28 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152035
19:23:35 <OliverK> same processor?
19:23:52 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK: as I was showing this weekend?
19:24:00 <OliverK> ?
19:24:07 <OliverK> keeping the old one or getting a new one
19:24:11 <Gizmokid2005> getting a new one
19:24:12 <OliverK> I wasn't here over the weekend
19:24:15 <Gizmokid2005> going quad core phenom
19:24:21 <OliverK> nice :D
19:24:27 <Gizmokid2005> :D
19:24:33 <Gizmokid2005> upgrading from dual-core opteron
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19:29:32 <JohnTHaller> hi
19:30:08 <OliverK> JohnTHaller!
19:31:57 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
19:32:03 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
19:32:59 <MaienM> pretty good, with you?
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19:33:06 <OliverK> when are we releasing PNotes?
19:33:30 <JohnTHaller> soon as i can. sorry i've been laid up
19:33:57 <OliverK> that's alright
19:34:08 <OliverK> should I worry about those things that Taffin posted?
19:34:54 <JohnTHaller> what things?
19:35:02 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/node/16738#comment-110295
19:35:10 <OliverK> updating the installer and some capitlization stuff
19:35:36 <JohnTHaller> i'll take care of it, oliver
19:35:47 <OliverK> I'm working on the capitalization now, i think he wants the installer updated to the latest, which I rather not do for this release
19:35:51 <OliverK> thanks
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19:40:21 <ZachThibeau> back y'all
19:40:23 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
19:40:28 <JohnTHaller> hi
19:40:50 <ZachThibeau> whats new
19:41:32 <onestoploser> wb ZachThibeau
19:41:39 <ZachThibeau> ty onestoploser
19:41:45 <JohnTHaller> working on pnotes and miranda atm
19:41:51 <OliverK> sweet
19:41:58 * OliverK waits for miranda update :D
19:42:00 <onestoploser> I stayed up way too late last night watching the Super Bowl.
19:42:21 <onestoploser> I keep getting the head-bob at my desk. lol
19:45:39 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: what about NSISPortable, did you get the splash/html page finished?
19:46:39 <JohnTHaller> not yet
19:47:15 <ZachThibeau> ok
19:49:39 <ZachThibeau> brb
19:51:57 <Gizmokid2005> btw - hello JohnTHaller (sorry, looking at computer parts/cases while working lol)
19:57:04 <ZachThibeau> back
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19:58:17 <excid3> back as well :P
19:59:50 <ZachThibeau> howdy excid3
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19:59:55 <rcmaehl> hi
20:00:00 <ZachThibeau> howdy rcmaehl
20:00:11 <rcmaehl> guys im my bot i made!
20:00:43 <rcmaehl> It's name is: ComputoFix_BOt
20:00:53 <OliverK> rcmaehl: great
20:01:01 <rcmaehl> IM it
20:01:06 <rcmaehl> OR PM
20:01:15 <excid3> hey
20:01:21 <OliverK> please fon't bring is here as it's considered poor behavior and the bot will be booted
20:01:42 <rcmaehl> i on't
20:01:48 <rcmaehl> won't*
20:02:24 <OliverK> thankyou
20:04:06 <ZachThibeau> rcmaehl: and please don't use all caps it makes people think that you are yelling at them
20:05:15 <rcmaehl> isn't my bot great?
20:06:06 <onestoploser> Or that Caps Lock is cruise-control for cool, which it isn't.
20:06:08 <onestoploser> XD
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20:13:34 <rcmaehl> OliverK: isn't my bot great?
20:13:47 <OliverK> do I have to pass judgement?
20:15:04 <rcmaehl> not really just say if you like it
20:17:28 <ZachThibeau> rcmaehl: how can we tell if we haven't seen your bot
20:18:33 <rcmaehl> #computofix
20:19:25 <JohnTHaller> rcmaehl: what, if anything, does this have to do with #portableapps?
20:19:33 <rcmaehl> just /msg him
20:19:49 <rcmaehl> his name is: ComputoFix_BOt
20:19:58 <ZachThibeau> rcmaehl: we are trying to tell you enough is enough
20:20:08 <ZachThibeau> please
20:20:48 <rcmaehl> what's that one room
20:21:07 <rcmaehl> something -ot?
20:21:14 <OliverK> #-ot
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20:23:55 <ZachThibeau> howdy DaveDixonII
20:24:04 <DaveDixonII> hi
20:24:05 <OliverK> DaveDixonII!
20:24:13 <DaveDixonII> OliverK!
20:24:31 <Gizmokid2005> hello DaveDixonII
20:24:32 <OliverK> wes around anymore?
20:24:44 * DaveDixonII checks
20:24:54 <DaveDixonII> He's idle
20:24:59 <DaveDixonII> 1h38m
20:25:21 <DaveDixonII> Work is taking him over. Won't be avaliable alot until summer.
20:25:33 <OliverK> wow, ouch
20:25:45 <OliverK> oh well, i was just wondering where he was, his site and studff went kerplunk
20:26:06 <DaveDixonII> Expect that. ;)
20:26:21 <OliverK> heh
20:29:37 <OliverK> a user can access the HKLM branch, just not manipulate it?
20:30:09 <ZachThibeau> DaveDixonII: you going to continue TightVNC Portable?
20:30:45 <DaveDixonII> That depends.
20:31:11 <ZachThibeau> I think OliverK wants you to continue it :P
20:31:22 <OliverK> nah, i don't really need it
20:31:32 <OliverK> but I will use it if i ever get my network setup
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20:41:15 <OliverK> Hello, t405. Is there something that the PortableApps.com community can help you with today?
20:43:13 <t405> I'm trying to install other portable apps into my menu, these are not paf.exe
20:43:38 <OliverK> k
20:43:45 <OliverK> just install them to X:\PortableApps
20:43:47 <ZachThibeau> t405: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
20:43:52 <OliverK> x being the letter of your drive
20:46:43 <t405> yes, but to get them to show up in the menu, the help file says to put them in the portable apps menu folder, but idon't think i'mputting them in the right one
20:47:16 <OliverK> do you have it set X:\PortableApps\NewFolderfortheApp\app.exe?
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20:52:00 <t405> what do you mean have it set? do I create a new folder for each new app in the portable apps folder
20:52:55 <OliverK> set= a folder system similiar to that
20:53:03 <JohnTHaller> t405: it's best to keep each app in its own directory for organizational reasons. but if you have multiple single EXE apps, you can put them all in one folder
20:53:42 <JohnTHaller> so, say you have app1.exe and app2.exe you want in the menu, you can create a folder called X:\PortableApps\SmallApps\ and place both in there. when you refresh the icons (Options - Refresh App Icons) they'll both show up
20:56:23 <t405> ok let me try that, I thought the help page was telling me to put them \portableapps\portableappsmenu
20:58:25 <t405> that worked thanks
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20:59:51 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Everyone
20:59:56 <Oni-Neoxes> Support or no?
21:00:15 <Oni-Neoxes> guess not, JohnTHaller, you there?
21:00:19 <OliverK> Oni-Neoxes: sorta, try kibitzing in -ot
21:00:28 <OliverK> we're goofing off in there anyway
21:00:40 <OliverK> oops, no, support is over
21:00:44 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
21:01:03 <Oni-Neoxes> http://portableapps.com/node/17872 <-- Might want to delete that...
21:02:22 <JohnTHaller> support is done
21:02:43 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller :)
21:03:10 <JohnTHaller> Oni-Neoxes: ditched it thanks
21:03:11 <JohnTHaller> hi
21:03:27 <JohnTHaller> updated wording, think it's clearer: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
21:03:30 <Oni-Neoxes> No Problem :P
21:04:41 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: definitely clearer
21:04:58 <OliverK> what's the best way to read/write XML with NSIS?
21:05:38 <JohnTHaller> OliverK: it ain't easy. we usually try and avoid it. what's it for?
21:05:47 <OliverK> VirtualBox
21:06:02 <JohnTHaller> I usually try to use configread on it if possible
21:07:20 <OliverK> i'll see
21:07:32 <OliverK> i think I have a functioning launcher for it
21:07:50 <JohnTHaller> cool
21:08:23 <OliverK> http://oliverkrystal.pastebin.com/m1f161d3a
21:08:46 <OliverK> it checks if the server is there, if it is, it luanches, if not it check to see if you can install install it
21:08:53 <OliverK> i got help from the virtual box people
21:10:37 <JohnTHaller> nice
21:10:42 <JohnTHaller> they keen on having it be official?
21:10:49 <JohnTHaller> I could probably get the right contact in Sun
21:10:49 <OliverK> i haven't asked yet
21:10:57 <JohnTHaller> inquire with them first.
21:11:07 <OliverK> me or you?
21:11:10 <JohnTHaller> did you want to do it the OSS version or the freeware one?
21:11:27 <JohnTHaller> you inquire with the guys you've been working with. always best to work with the people we already know
21:11:41 <OliverK> theirs USB drivers, etc for the freeware
21:11:49 <JohnTHaller> ok
21:11:57 <JohnTHaller> OliverK: which value are you trying to read/write?
21:11:59 <OliverK> it barfs at those, I haven't uncovered how to install, unistall those
21:12:11 <OliverK> <ExtraDataItem name="GUI/LanguageID" value="es"/>
21:12:20 <JohnTHaller> portably, I don't think most people will need the usb drivers
21:12:20 <OliverK> line 17
21:12:35 <JohnTHaller> Ok, yeah, you can do that with ConfigRead/ConfigWrite... lemme find you the code...
21:12:40 <OliverK> thanks
21:15:38 <JohnTHaller> ${ConfigRead} $SETTINGSFILENAME ` <ExtraDataItem name="GUI/LanguageID" value="` $0
21:16:04 <OliverK> thanks, I'll stick that in now, and it will take care of the language switch
21:16:20 <JohnTHaller> Then lop off the last 3 chars using StrCpy: "/>
21:16:59 <JohnTHaller> Use a -3 with StrCpy to lop off the last 3 chars
21:16:59 <OliverK> ?
21:17:04 <OliverK> oh, okay
21:17:14 <JohnTHaller> It'll give you: es"/>
21:17:47 <JohnTHaller> You can do that by: StrCpy $1 $0 -3
21:17:58 <JohnTHaller> which would give you es (or en-us or whatever it is)
21:18:13 <JohnTHaller> then to write it back, use ConfigWrite and add those 3 chars to the end of your lang code :-)
21:18:50 <JohnTHaller> I should code that up as a function since we've used it before and it's also handy for mozilla settings files
21:19:58 <JohnTHaller> make sense?
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21:21:42 <OliverK> sorta, I'm gonna play with it and make sure I got it
21:22:38 <OliverK> couldn't you just stick the $applanuage in side the <>?
21:23:00 <OliverK> i.e. <ExtraDataItem name="GUI/LanguageID" value="$APPLANGUAGE?"/>
21:23:54 <OliverK> nvrmind
21:23:55 <JohnTHaller> You mean in the file itself? No, that has no value outside the launcher. There may be a way to use an environment variable within there, but you'd have to ask the VirtualBox folks
21:24:49 <OliverK> i got it now
21:25:05 <OliverK> you mind if I post a copy of the conversation and the code\explanation on my blog?
21:25:15 <JohnTHaller> sure, feel free
21:26:43 <OliverK> k, i get the feeling some other might benefit
21:26:55 <OliverK> I looked around but couldn't find any good way to play with XML
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21:27:42 <JohnTHaller> yeah, there are a couple XML things for NSIS, but they are difficult to use
21:27:49 <OliverK> should it also be handling this from AppNamePortable.ini?
21:28:11 <JohnTHaller> what do you mean?
21:28:14 <OliverK> yeah, and quite a few of the XML plugins require files to be on the host directory, no good way to do it from where we stand
21:28:59 <OliverK> should it read and set the language for the program based on a entry in appnameportable.ini
21:29:09 <OliverK> similiar to how pidgin handles things
21:29:26 <OliverK> or is that (I'm guessing) just for apps that use enviromental variables?
21:29:41 <JohnTHaller> no, only for env var apps
21:29:45 <OliverK> k
21:29:56 <JohnTHaller> it should check for the PA lang env var, though and adjust if needed
21:30:01 <OliverK> right
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21:53:11 <OliverK> xml not working, keeps adding it at the end, I'm gonna lie and tell its and ini
21:54:21 <MaienM> tsk OliverK, you shouldn't lie!!! :P
21:54:26 <onestoploser> lol
21:54:33 <onestoploser> Home time. Later all
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21:54:45 <OliverK> MaienM: heh
21:54:48 <JohnTHaller> OliverK: make sure you get the string and the number of spaces correct for ConfigRead/Write
21:55:24 <OliverK> its adds a new line to the end
21:56:14 <JohnTHaller> it'll do that if it isn't exactly char for char what's already in the file
21:56:42 <Gizmokid2005> well I'm out guys, take care
21:56:51 <Gizmokid2005> bye OliverK, JohnTHaller, PatrickPatience, Bensawsome, DaveDixonII
21:56:53 <Gizmokid2005> et al
21:57:08 <OliverK> bye Gizmokid2005
21:57:26 <PatrickPatience> Peace.
21:57:59 <PatrickPatience> Gizmokid2005: Catch Philly D today?
21:58:11 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: I am very behind...I'll catch up lpater
21:58:14 <Gizmokid2005> *later
21:58:20 <Bensawsome> by Gizmokid2005 >_>
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21:59:47 <OliverK> gotta switch comps
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22:00:18 <Bensawsome> hey markomlm :)
22:00:55 <markomlm> Hello @all :-) Any native russian or polish speakers her ? ;-)
22:01:51 <Bensawsome> hmmm dont think so >_>
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22:03:12 <OliverK> back
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22:04:22 <markomlm> JohnTHaller:ru and pl launcher an installer needs some more strings ... Should I publish PR2 with english strings for the missing ones in order to get the translators motivied for the final?
22:04:37 <JohnTHaller> yea
22:04:47 <JohnTHaller> i'm posting PNotes with some english strings for catalan and other langs
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22:05:20 <OliverK> Hello, Jdogg_007. Is there something that the PortableApps.com community can help you with today?
22:05:49 <Jdogg_007> Ya... Can you add an app to your menu that is not from portable apps?
22:06:01 <dbdii407> Yes
22:06:14 <JohnTHaller> Jdogg_007: Yes. Read the 2nd paragraph here: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
22:06:26 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
22:06:35 <Jdogg_007> Ok, thanks.
22:07:16 <Jdogg_007> That is just what I needed
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22:09:09 <markomlm> OK. Portuguese, Russian and Dutch are the last task, 8 finished for upload 3 to do ;-)
22:09:23 <JohnTHaller> go marko
22:19:34 <OliverK> got the virtual box switching working, but turns out en is acceptable
22:19:58 <OliverK> oh well, I'm gonna finish up with the taks I have here, and then I think I'm going home
22:20:10 <OliverK> last shout out if anybody need me
22:20:28 <JohnTHaller> wait a sec
22:21:09 <PatrickPatience> OliverK, wait!
22:21:14 <PatrickPatience> Goodbye. :-)
22:21:16 <PatrickPatience> Heh.
22:21:22 <OliverK> goodbye PatrickPatience
22:22:14 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: PNotes Portable 4.5: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-02-02_-_pnotes_portable_4.5
22:22:49 <JohnTHaller> Ok, now you can go :-)
22:23:04 <OliverK> sweetness
22:23:06 <OliverK> thankyou
22:23:16 <OliverK> I'm glad to finally get that out the door :D
22:25:09 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: any comments so far on the twitter module I made?
22:25:21 <JohnTHaller> And for others, this release is based on the new multilingual installer 0.11.1 (which fixes a typo in "ukranian" in 0.11)
22:25:34 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: It's on my desktop waiting to be tried out still
22:25:54 <MaienM> ah, alright :P
22:26:00 <JohnTHaller> soon though
22:26:51 <MaienM> :)
22:27:12 <MaienM> take your time, its not like its gonna walk away ;) (I hope)
22:28:14 <Bensawsome> lol
22:28:33 <Bensawsome> like your perl script you made for me randomly said stuff :P
22:29:05 <OliverK> i made a perl translation script
22:29:29 <MaienM> orly Bensawsome? :P
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22:29:42 <MaienM> that was fixed prety soon though ;)
22:29:45 <MaienM> hello TimClark :)
22:29:46 <Bensawsome> yarly MaienM ;)
22:29:47 <OliverK> http://oliverkrystal.pastebin.com/m1efad428
22:29:49 <Bensawsome> yes it was :P
22:29:53 <TimClark> Hello All :D
22:29:54 <OliverK> later guys
22:30:00 <OliverK> hi TimClark bye TimClark
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22:31:38 <TimClark> hello gluxon
22:31:46 <gluxon> Hello TimClark :D
22:50:51 <dbdii407> Next thing we notice is that chanserv will keep doing that wether you have it or not. O_o
22:51:34 <TimClark> dbdii407: it was me in -ot, the script was hard coded with this channel name, my bad
22:53:12 <Bensawsome> ... thats why TimClark :S
22:53:36 <dbdii407> Replace #portableapps in that command to #
22:53:41 <dbdii407> TimClark: ;)
22:54:33 <dbdii407> That way, Mibbit will replace # with the current channel your looking at
22:55:11 <TimClark> I am aware dbdii407 , but it is not the script that is the problem, it is something else in -ot
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22:55:18 <Bensawsome> hello Gizmokid2005 :)
22:55:29 <TimClark> wb Gizmokid2005
22:56:25 <Gizmokid2005> hello Bensawsome, TimClark
22:58:28 <dbdii407> TimClark: What exactly would that be?
22:59:02 <TimClark> dbdii407: -ot for this convo please
22:59:20 <dbdii407> Already there. ;)
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22:59:56 <ptmb> Hi everybody!
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23:09:08 <TimClark> PatrickPatience: come to -ot please
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23:09:44 <pa_1158> hi is there anyone in this support room knows how to create a portable app.?
23:10:07 <pa_1158> bc I'm really having a diffcuilt time getting to work
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23:10:22 <pa_1158> hello????
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23:10:44 <TimClark> pa_1158: one moment please
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23:11:56 <TimClark> ZachThibeau: can you help pa_1158 ?
23:12:12 <ZachThibeau> busy TimClark.
23:12:48 <pa_1158> busy
23:12:56 <TimClark> pa_1158: it appears that none of the developers are active for the moment
23:13:01 <pa_1158> what are u guys busy about?
23:13:08 <pa_1158> so u can't help me
23:13:08 <pa_1158> right?
23:13:17 <TimClark> pa_1158: ZachThibeau is saying he is not available right now
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23:13:45 <TimClark> if you can hang around for a while pa_1158 someone may be in that can help you
23:13:54 <pa_1158> then what in the world show I do now?
23:14:15 <DaveDixonII> *sigh* Hello pa_1158
23:14:15 <TimClark> DaveDixonII: can you help pa_1158 with a dev question
23:15:20 <TimClark> pa_1158: tell DaveDixonII what you need please
23:15:31 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: It's fine
23:15:37 <DaveDixonII> pa_1158: Just give me one second here. ;)
23:16:47 <pa_1158> okay
23:18:27 <pa_1158> please let me know when u are going to be done
23:18:49 <DaveDixonII> pa_1158: There is this: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
23:20:13 <pa_1158> well could u please tell me if this will the work the same way
23:20:21 <pa_1158> http://84productions.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-to-make-create-portable.html
23:20:51 <ZachThibeau> pa_1158: no it doesn't
23:20:58 <DaveDixonII> No it will not. Sorry
23:21:08 <ZachThibeau> it only accounts for the app on the stick not the data that is left behind on the pc after each use
23:21:09 <DaveDixonII> At least, not our way.
23:21:25 <Bensawsome> no not period :S it wont even save your settings :S
23:21:37 <TimClark> .
23:22:19 <ptmb> What they both mean is that the original tutorial you used doesn't save settings, so it isn't a true portable app. the one they provided wont work the same way, but will do a portable app
23:22:36 <ptmb> at least it will try to
23:22:46 <Bensawsome> but it will fail miserably
23:22:48 <ptmb> I think
23:22:51 <ptmb> :P
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23:25:34 <TimClark> sorry guys, had a bad reconnect
23:26:17 <TimClark> i see he is gone, thanks DaveDixonII for trying
23:33:43 <ZachThibeau> yes thanks DaveDixonII
23:36:02 <TimClark> Is it agree that this topic "eSpeak Portable Development Test 1 - Your Portable Voice Synthiziser" should be moved to the Beta Testing forum : http://portableapps.com/node/17756
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23:36:53 <ZachThibeau> I think it should if it's ever going to get proper attention
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23:37:19 <TimClark> ZachThibeau: you asked me to move it, i know You think it should :P
23:37:25 <ZachThibeau> :P
23:37:31 <MaienM> I agree
23:37:43 <ZachThibeau> I'm saying it in case people didn't see what I said in -ot :P
23:37:56 <MaienM> imo, its not even worth the name beta, since it is not even a actual portable app.
23:38:18 <Bensawsome> ya :S
23:38:26 <TimClark> not being a dev myself that's why i want other opinions, i don't like to wantonly move topics :D
23:39:07 <TimClark> PatrickPatience: what do you think ?
23:39:16 <Bensawsome> lol he is away
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23:39:35 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler: ur using mibbit =_=
23:39:38 <ZachThibeau> Well like I said if he is going to learn about portableapps.com it should be moved there to get the attention it needs so that other users can point out this
23:39:45 <SergentSiler> Bensawsome: yah
23:40:07 <TimClark> so Bensawsome , ZachThibeau , ZachThibeau all agree to the move, anyone else, DaveDixonII ?...
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23:40:21 <DaveDixonII> What?
23:40:36 <Bensawsome> well we all over ride him anyways :P
23:40:37 <TimClark> Is it agreed that this topic "eSpeak Portable Development Test 1 - Your Portable Voice Synthiziser" should be moved to the Beta Testing forum : http://portableapps.com/node/17756
23:40:41 * DaveDixonII was not even paying attention. He is busy with his IRC Server
23:40:42 <SergentSiler> TimClark: pm
23:40:53 <TimClark> SergentSiler: in a bit ok
23:40:58 <SergentSiler> k
23:41:13 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: Idc. :P It's your privs. You do what you want. ;)
23:41:36 <TimClark> no DaveDixonII i rarely do what i want ...:P
23:42:19 <DaveDixonII> TimClark: It's your privs. You do what is needed. ;P *correction*
23:42:22 <ZachThibeau> what about John
23:42:31 <ZachThibeau> he's here. lets hear what he says
23:43:04 <TimClark> ZachThibeau: he is not really here, not replying to pms
23:43:13 <TimClark> topic moved and noted
23:43:20 <ZachThibeau> well his status is showing as here :/
23:43:25 <ZachThibeau> hmm must be one of those times :P
23:43:37 <ZachThibeau> and ok about the topic move
23:43:47 <TimClark> I always get confused by the Dev/Beta forums, that's why i asked for opinions
23:44:16 <ZachThibeau> it happens
23:44:36 <TimClark> I noted that no one comment on it needing moving since it was first posted on Jan 25th
23:46:44 <ZachThibeau> TimClark: I only noticed it now
23:47:01 <TimClark> and hello SergentSiler :D
23:47:17 <ZachThibeau> yes howdy SergentSiler
23:47:24 <SergentSiler> hi TimClark and ZachThibeau :P
23:47:57 <MaienM> hello SergentSiler
23:48:02 <SergentSiler> hi MaienM
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23:59:33 <stormsh> hi
23:59:42 <stormsh> anyone still awake?
23:59:57 <TimClark> hello stormsh