IRC Log from 2009-02-15

00:03:25 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=Oni-Neox@clsm-74-47-114-2-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps
00:03:30 <upnPAD> rmccue, thar?
00:03:40 <rmccue> Ya.
00:03:47 <upnPAD> well
00:03:50 <upnPAD> i downloaded phenny again
00:03:55 <upnPAD> but when i try to extract it
00:03:58 <upnPAD> it give me the error
00:04:13 <rmccue> "upnPAD is stupid"?
00:04:13 <upnPAD> Header CRC error
00:04:16 <upnPAD> hurrhurr
00:04:31 <rmccue> Sounds like a corrupted package.
00:05:30 <upnPAD> i redownloaded
00:05:44 <upnPAD> woah weird
00:05:50 <upnPAD> on the site its phenny.tar.bz2
00:05:53 <upnPAD> but when i download
00:05:56 <upnPAD> its phenny.tar.tar
00:06:19 <upnPAD> lol i just renamed it and it worked
00:06:56 <upnPAD> Python 3.0.1 released
00:06:57 <upnPAD> Python 3.0.1 is now available.
00:06:57 <upnPAD> Published: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:21 -0500
00:07:30 <rmccue> Makes sense.
00:07:38 <upnPAD> rmccue, do you have python3 or python2 running with phenny?
00:07:51 <rmccue> 2.
00:08:07 <upnPAD> k
00:08:30 <upnPAD> ill try with 3 then
00:08:50 <SergentSiler> upnPAD: phenny doesnt like 3 at all
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00:09:14 * DaveDixonII is eating a potato
00:10:05 <upnPAD> oh damn
00:10:09 <SergentSiler> i was setting up a phenny with gluxon today and it didnt work till we downgraded to version 2.6
00:10:10 <upnPAD> ty for telling me SergentSiler :P
00:10:19 <SergentSiler> np
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00:12:28 <DaveDixonII> No!!!
00:12:34 <excid3> Yes!!
00:12:38 <DaveDixonII> Dang firefox..
00:12:43 <excid3> Awesome firefox..
00:12:48 <Oni-Neoxes> Maybe!
00:12:52 <excid3> Meh!
00:14:19 <DaveDixonII> Cool firefox..
00:16:29 <upnPAD> hrm
00:16:38 <upnPAD> SergentSiler, how do i run phenny (the file)?
00:16:42 <upnPAD> through cmd line?
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00:17:12 <DaveDixonII> Threw python. :P
00:17:18 <upnPAD> yeah how :P
00:17:28 <DaveDixonII> Right click the file?
00:17:39 <SergentSiler> no
00:17:44 <SergentSiler> DaveDixonII: STFU :P
00:17:47 * DaveDixonII forgot. He uses linux
00:17:57 <SergentSiler> upnPAD: windows right?
00:18:00 <upnPAD> yeah
00:18:00 <Oni-Neoxes> see what Linux does XD
00:18:04 <upnPAD> WinXP SP3
00:18:23 <SergentSiler> upnPAD: in the phenny folder, rename the file phenny to phenny.py
00:18:26 <SergentSiler> double click
00:18:40 <SergentSiler> then go to C:\documents and settings\user\.phenny
00:18:42 <upnPAD> :p
00:18:47 <SergentSiler> and edit the default.py file
00:18:52 <upnPAD> hrm
00:18:56 <SergentSiler> then double click phenny.py again
00:18:59 <upnPAD> if i were to then upload this to a linux box
00:19:08 <upnPAD> where would i put the config :S
00:19:14 <SergentSiler> donno :/
00:19:38 <DaveDixonII> Do do whatever SergentSiler again! :D
00:19:49 <SergentSiler> ?
00:20:04 <DaveDixonII> Do do whatever SergentSiler again! :D :/
00:20:22 <SergentSiler> ??
00:20:33 <DaveDixonII> The instruction. :/
00:20:47 <DaveDixonII> s/instruction/instructions
00:21:25 <SergentSiler> :?
00:21:47 <SergentSiler> upnPAD: if u are running on windows, just do what i said and it will run fine
00:21:59 <upnPAD> yeah
00:22:25 <upnPAD> how would i make it join a channel with a password
00:22:29 <upnPAD> from startup :S
00:22:46 <SergentSiler> add the line password= passwordhere
00:22:52 <SergentSiler> to default.py
00:23:02 <SergentSiler> without the space
00:23:14 <upnPAD> so
00:23:19 <upnPAD> password='chanpw'
00:23:24 <SergentSiler> yep
00:23:34 <SergentSiler> or you can bug DaveDixonII for his id script
00:23:49 * upnPAD bugs DaveDixonII
00:23:58 <SergentSiler> it wont auto do it thogh
00:24:11 <SergentSiler> you have to yell at ur bot to id :P
00:24:38 <Oni-Neoxes> http://portableapps.com/node/18088 new release?
00:24:47 <DaveDixonII> <upnPAD> Oh bummer
00:25:01 <upnPAD> Oo?
00:26:25 <SergentSiler> <(O-o)>
00:26:40 * Oni-Neoxes is listening to Avenged Sevenfold now
00:26:51 * SergentSiler is listening to Andre Tanneberger
00:27:03 <upnPAD> ugh
00:27:07 * DaveDixonII is listening to Flo Rida
00:27:12 <TimClark> Oni-Neoxes: not quite a relase yet, but hopefully someday :D
00:27:15 <upnPAD> how long after connecting to quakenet does it take to joina channel =_=
00:27:16 <SergentSiler> upnPAD: ?
00:27:25 <SergentSiler> :P
00:27:31 <SergentSiler> give it at least 15 seconds
00:27:33 <Oni-Neoxes> Im ganna have to google Delphi
00:27:36 <Oni-Neoxes> see what it is
00:28:28 <upnPAD> Warning: 'module' object has no attribute 'fork' (in __init__.py)
00:28:30 <upnPAD> oh
00:28:31 <upnPAD> odd
00:28:39 <upnPAD> about half a minute after connecting
00:28:41 <upnPAD> maybe a minute
00:28:43 <upnPAD> it said Closed
00:28:45 <SergentSiler> hmmm
00:28:54 <SergentSiler> answer ur pm upnPAD
00:28:56 <SergentSiler> :D
00:28:57 <Oni-Neoxes> brb
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00:40:52 <TimClark> Hello Havvy , long time no see LD
00:43:12 *** Sancas (n=Sancas@190.87.243.40) has joined #portableapps
00:43:51 <Sancas> happy day!!
00:44:17 <TimClark> Hello Sancas
00:50:56 <Oni-Neoxes> http://portableapps.com/node/11627
00:51:02 <Oni-Neoxes> I still can't find out what that is
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00:53:30 <TimClark> Oni-Neoxes: Lazarus is an emulation of Delphi.
00:53:46 <Oni-Neoxes> What is Delphi
00:53:56 <TimClark> http://portableapps.com/node/11627 Lazarus Portable
00:54:10 <TimClark> Oni-Neoxes: no idea, i just did a search
00:54:14 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
00:54:20 <rmccue> I should have bought my USB, I'm stuck in IE now :/
00:54:22 <TimClark> Welcome back rmccue :D
00:54:38 <ZachThibeau> welcome back rmccue
00:54:49 <rmccue> We can dance if we want to.
00:54:56 <rmccue> We can leave your friends behind.
00:55:04 <rmccue> Because your friends don't dance.
00:55:08 <rmccue> And if they don't dance.
00:55:14 <rmccue> Well, they're no friends of mine.
00:55:25 <rmccue> We can dance.
00:55:27 <rmccue> We can dance.
00:55:39 <Oni-Neoxes> Safety Dance!
00:55:48 * Oni-Neoxes dances
00:56:01 <rmccue> We can dance if we want to.
00:56:06 <rmccue> If we don't, nobody will.
00:56:48 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
00:56:50 <Oni-Neoxes> Good song
00:57:00 * Oni-Neoxes open WMP and palys it
00:57:34 <rmccue> No speakers on this computer D:
00:58:01 <TimClark> rmccue: we have speakers in -ot :D [hint :P ]
00:58:15 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
00:58:18 <rmccue> Won't change the fact that this computer doesn't. :P
00:59:06 <Oni-Neoxes> hmm
00:59:16 <Oni-Neoxes> ganna download Lazarus and try it out
00:59:21 <rmccue> I think the screen res is like 800 x 600, this sucks.
00:59:58 <Oni-Neoxes> Emulator of Delphi
01:00:07 <Oni-Neoxes> I think thats the GameCube Emulator
01:00:11 <Oni-Neoxes> or was that Dolphin
01:00:27 <rmccue> Wow, 1024 x 768, looks heaps smaller than that.
01:00:40 <rmccue> Well, then again.
01:00:46 <rmccue> We can go where we want to.
01:01:02 <rmccue> The night is young and so am I
01:01:07 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
01:01:28 <rmccue> And we can dress real neat from our hats to our feet
01:01:42 <rmccue> And surprise 'em with a victory cry
01:01:53 <rmccue> We can act if we want to.
01:01:55 <upnPAD> hey rmccue how do i reload modules
01:02:00 <upnPAD> should i get a confirmation message?
01:02:03 <rmccue> If we don't, nobody will.
01:02:09 <upnPAD> im trying to reload one in the opt directory
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01:02:17 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
01:02:26 <rmccue> And you can act real rude and totally removed
01:02:28 <upnPAD> which i specified in default.py with
01:02:29 <upnPAD> extra = ['comrades.py']
01:02:37 <TimClark> PatrickPatience: thank thank thank you :P
01:02:37 <rmccue> And I can act like an imbecile!
01:02:45 <rmccue> pabot: reload portableapps
01:02:46 <pabot> rmccue: <module 'modules.portableapps' from 'C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\phenny\modules\portableapps.pyc'> (version: 2009-01-20 03:30:22)
01:02:52 <rmccue> upnPAD: See above.
01:02:56 <upnPAD> oh ta
01:03:04 <upnPAD> :)
01:03:16 <rmccue> Woo, changed screen res, thank god.
01:03:18 <SergentSiler> upnPAD: u could have asked me too :P
01:03:26 * SergentSiler isnt that stupid
01:03:26 <upnPAD> ><!
01:03:39 <rmccue> 1280 x 1024
01:03:41 <upnPAD> im just used to asking rmccue :>
01:03:47 <rmccue> I feel free!
01:03:48 <SergentSiler> np :P
01:03:49 <upnPAD> ^ is what i use
01:03:55 <rmccue> Cause I'm free...
01:03:58 <SergentSiler> w00t rmccue
01:04:03 <rmccue> Free fallin'...
01:04:12 <upnPAD> ugh...
01:04:18 <upnPAD> how do i specify opt modules
01:04:28 <upnPAD> <upnPAD> Comrade, reload comrades
01:04:28 <upnPAD> <Comrade> ImportError: No module named opt.comrades (source unknown)
01:04:36 <upnPAD> extra = ['comrades.py']
01:04:40 <upnPAD> should be loading :(
01:04:58 <rmccue> Comrade, attack ze Germans!
01:05:11 <rmccue> Comrade, ve Russians must stand strong!
01:05:20 <rmccue> Something like that, I think.
01:05:22 <TimClark> rmccue: upnPAD would like some help please
01:05:28 <rmccue> :P
01:05:31 <SergentSiler> lol
01:05:47 <SergentSiler> upnPAD: is that file in the modules folder?
01:05:55 <upnPAD> opt folder
01:06:01 <rmccue> upnPAD: I've personally got no idea.
01:06:02 <rmccue> Hmm.
01:06:08 <rmccue> pabot: reload freenode
01:06:09 <pabot> rmccue: <module 'opt.freenode' from 'C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\phenny\opt\freenode.pyc'> (version: 2009-02-15 01:08:56)
01:06:10 <SergentSiler> upnPAD: move it to modules
01:06:14 <upnPAD> k
01:06:17 <rmccue> Working for me.
01:06:17 <SergentSiler> then reload
01:07:02 <upnPAD> yay working
01:07:05 <upnPAD> ta SergentSiler
01:07:10 <SergentSiler> np
01:07:48 <SergentSiler> also
01:08:01 <SergentSiler> you will want to remove comrades.py from your extras
01:08:27 <upnPAD> yeah i did
01:08:51 <upnPAD> ugh
01:08:55 <SergentSiler> ?
01:08:58 <upnPAD> still wont let me reload
01:09:09 <SergentSiler> what is the channel?
01:09:11 <PatrickPatience> Thank me thank me?
01:09:20 <upnPAD> its on quakenet
01:09:25 <upnPAD> #upnPAD and #Cr
01:09:29 <SergentSiler> address
01:09:34 * DaveDixonII read that as 'QuackNet'
01:09:36 <upnPAD> irc.quakenet.org
01:09:38 <DaveDixonII> O_o
01:09:40 <SergentSiler> kk
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01:09:45 <TimClark> Thank you for being here PatrickPatience , we might need you rmccue is being, well ... rmccue
01:09:52 <upnPAD> lol
01:09:53 <TimClark> opps :O
01:10:00 * TimClark hides in the corner
01:10:15 <DaveDixonII> Haha. Nice. ;)
01:10:24 <Oni-Neoxes> Lazarus portable is 500MB installed O_o
01:10:59 * TimClark thinks , again, a comment
01:11:31 <rmccue> YES!
01:11:46 <rmccue> iPod earphones + sound card = win
01:12:25 <TimClark> rmccue: has sound now , Yah [does that mean he did not hear what I said before :O ]
01:12:50 <Oni-Neoxes> Found it!
01:12:55 <Oni-Neoxes> www.freepascal.org <--Lazarus is there
01:14:13 <rmccue> SAFETY DANCE TIME!
01:14:18 <Oni-Neoxes> :D
01:15:22 <rmccue> We can dance.
01:15:25 <rmccue> We can dance
01:15:32 <Oni-Neoxes> :D
01:15:34 * Oni-Neoxes dances
01:15:50 <rmccue> Everybody look at your hands.
01:15:53 <rmccue> We can dance.
01:15:56 <rmccue> We can dance.
01:16:03 <rmccue> IT'S THE SAFETY DANCE!
01:17:26 <rmccue> Scrubs ftw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-bIhCBSrzU
01:19:26 <rmccue> Any suggestions on music for what I should listen to now?
01:20:28 <TimClark> I just gave you a suggestion in -ot :P
01:20:58 <rmccue> I have no room left to join another channel without having to scroll, which is too hard.
01:21:49 <TimClark> You could leave this one :P
01:22:01 * TimClark hides again :O
01:22:03 <rmccue> Or, I could *not* :P
01:22:16 <TimClark> or *not*
01:22:21 <ZachThibeau> you could leave -dev
01:23:14 <ZachThibeau> :P
01:23:20 <rmccue> But I don't *want* to :P
01:23:44 <ZachThibeau> rmccue: sometimes there is a line between *want* and a *need* ;)
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01:25:34 <TimClark> Hello GGD
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01:26:22 <rmccue> TimClark: You like scaring people off, don'
01:26:26 <rmccue> * don't you?
01:26:27 <TimClark> and Good bye :O
01:26:40 <TimClark> rmccue: so it seems :P
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01:50:30 <JacobMastel> Honey I'm home
01:50:35 <JacobMastel> Hi bogdan can we help you?
01:50:42 <bogdan> hello
01:50:51 <bogdan> I use
01:51:00 <bogdan> WinXP MiniPE edition
01:51:07 <bogdan> from CD
01:51:12 <bogdan> on my notebook
01:51:17 <JacobMastel> MiniPE?
01:51:20 <bogdan> because I don't have HDD
01:51:22 <JacobMastel> Is this legal?
01:51:31 <bogdan> it's free
01:51:33 <bogdan> from a site
01:51:45 <JacobMastel> Wait a copy of Windows being free?
01:52:02 <JacobMastel> I'm sorry but I can't help you with anything that's not legal.
01:52:20 <bogdan> well my question
01:52:23 <bogdan> is not about windows
01:52:25 <bogdan> anyway
01:52:45 <bogdan> my question is if I can install a sound driver
01:52:53 <bogdan> a PE sound driver
01:53:28 <JacobMastel> Give me a sec let me do some reading
01:53:37 <bogdan> ok
01:54:45 <bogdan> www.minipe.org
01:54:52 <bogdan> I guess it's legal
01:54:58 <bogdan> so you don't have to worry about
01:55:33 <TimClark> not sure you have come to the right forum for this, how does this relate to a portable app
01:55:50 <ZachThibeau> bogdan: you do realize this is for stuff related to PortableApps.com and not anything else
01:55:53 <JacobMastel> I have no clue about this stuff so I can't really help you.
01:56:26 <JacobMastel> I do know however that if you do a live CD all drivers and such must be installed to the origional ISO
01:56:56 <bogdan> but there's no pack of drivers that I can download ?
01:57:08 <JacobMastel> I don't know
01:57:32 <ZachThibeau> bogdan: I'm not trying to be harsh but it's only the fact that we don't support anything else but applications from PortableApps.com
01:57:32 <TimClark> bogdan: I don't think we are qualified to help you with this question, it's really not our thing
01:57:34 <JacobMastel> Honestly the only thing I can think of is google
01:57:57 <bogdan> oke
01:58:02 <bogdan> sorry for disturbing you
01:58:06 <ZachThibeau> no worries
01:58:10 <ZachThibeau> come again :)
01:58:14 <JacobMastel> No problem.
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01:58:59 <TimClark> Wow, wonder what brought him here ?
01:59:21 <ZachThibeau> probably because of Portable in our channel
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01:59:40 <JacobMastel> I don't know...We're usually really good with supporting everything from our own apps to windows problems to other random apps
01:59:48 <SrgSiler|sAFK> rmccue: u idle?
02:00:17 <TimClark> rmccue: is listening to Human by The Killers :D
02:00:26 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
02:00:32 <JacobMastel> TimClark: LMAO :P
02:00:36 <SrgSiler|sAFK> tell him that i request his presence in #silerspot
02:00:39 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :D
02:01:03 <SrgSiler|sAFK> "Are we human?.... Or are we Dancer?...."
02:01:05 <TimClark> JacobMastel: what, it's true, he wanted a music suggestiion and that was mine :O
02:01:21 <JacobMastel> ....
02:01:30 <TimClark> Anyway, back to support
02:01:39 <JacobMastel> All I see is SrgSiler|sAFK's question if he's idle to your random music suggestion
02:01:44 <JacobMastel> And the supportie left :P
02:01:44 <TimClark> If we can't help, we reallly should try to be nice about it
02:01:53 <JacobMastel> TimClark: I was nice :(
02:02:07 <JacobMastel> Come on please tell me that didn't sound illegal at first.
02:02:07 <TimClark> JacobMastel: I did not say you were'nt
02:02:15 <TimClark> JacobMastel: I did not say you were'nt
02:02:34 <TimClark> and i gave rmccue the music suggestion in pm :P
02:03:00 <JacobMastel> Then why'd you put it in here :P That belongs in -ot ya know ;)
02:03:13 <JacobMastel> Jeez give the ops a millimeter and they take a kilometer :P
02:03:26 <SrgSiler|sAFK> XD
02:03:33 <TimClark> JacobMastel: read back the last few lines please, your off point :(
02:04:09 <TimClark> I just mention, yes after the support ended, that we should try to be nice, that's all, even when we can't help
02:06:27 <JacobMastel> brb
02:06:31 <JacobMastel> I gotta go make ma dinner
02:07:22 <TimClark> later dude :)
02:07:37 <ZachThibeau> later
02:12:05 * rmccue is off to lunch
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02:12:26 <SrgSiler|sAFK> forgot he is in aussieland :P
02:12:36 <SrgSiler|sAFK> seemed odd he was having lunch now
02:15:27 <JacobMastel> Anyone see the new online code editor Mozilla is working on?
02:15:30 <ZachThibeau> yup
02:15:35 <JacobMastel> It looks like it could be of use for this site. :D
02:15:55 <JacobMastel> It'd be nice for us devs to be able to edit code at the same time together wouldn't it?
02:16:13 <JacobMastel> Make life so much easier then edit, pastebin, edit pastebin, and so forth :P
02:17:03 * TimClark nods his head and pretends he understands this stuff :O
02:17:08 <TimClark> :P
02:17:58 <JacobMastel> TimClark: lol
02:18:23 <JacobMastel> Pleeezzz tell me you know what pastebin is right?:P
02:18:33 <TimClark> yes :p
02:18:38 <JacobMastel> *cough*pastebin.com*cough* :P
02:18:48 * SrgSiler|sAFK forces TimClark to know geek stuff
02:19:01 <TimClark> but many people editing at once is beyond me
02:19:07 <JacobMastel> SrgSiler|sAFK: you can't your away from your keyboard :P
02:19:12 <SrgSiler|sAFK> D:
02:19:13 <SrgSiler|sAFK> no
02:19:20 <SrgSiler|sAFK> im sAFK
02:19:25 <JacobMastel> THOUGH SHALT CHANGE YOUR NICK :P
02:19:28 <SrgSiler|sAFK> semi AFK
02:19:33 <JacobMastel> lol
02:19:44 <TimClark> JacobMastel: caps please
02:19:57 <SrgSiler|sAFK> or though shalt be banned
02:20:04 <JacobMastel> brb ovens beeping :D
02:20:20 * SrgSiler|sAFK is makin french bread pizza
02:20:38 <SrgSiler|sAFK> anyone in here good with phenny?
02:21:02 <TimClark> It would take a lot for me to ban/mute JacobMastel :D
02:21:07 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
02:22:02 <JacobMastel> Yeah Mike's not here very often anymore who else is gonna do support...TimClark and SrgSiler|sAFK would have to do it all :P
02:22:38 <TimClark> :O
02:22:51 <TimClark> a fate worse then death
02:23:03 * JacobMastel is safe
02:23:09 * JacobMastel hides under his desk :P
02:23:18 * SrgSiler|sAFK usually does support anyway
02:23:26 <TimClark> Well not really, I can give some basic support and in fact have been told i'm pretty good at it :P
02:23:42 <JacobMastel> IRC is the only place you can talk in the 3rd person isn't it great :D
02:23:50 <TimClark> But I don't talk about things I dont know :P
02:24:05 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
02:24:38 <TimClark> A lesson some of our members could learn from :P
02:24:50 * SrgSiler|sAFK not included
02:24:51 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :D
02:25:09 <JacobMastel> TimClark: What would the ops thing about loggin -dev?
02:25:30 <JacobMastel> It'd make it easier ot use as a developer chat
02:25:46 <TimClark> I am not a good person to ask, as I don't use it, but I can see it having value
02:25:49 <JacobMastel> I've moved people there and been asked not to do that in the future because other people complained they couldn't keep up
02:26:07 <JacobMastel> I'll post in the forums.
02:26:30 <TimClark> JacobMastel: i would think talking to ryan and pat would be a better idea
02:26:43 <TimClark> really
02:27:01 <JacobMastel> hm alright I'll send an email to them both as it's hard to hit them at the same time
02:27:22 <JacobMastel> I wish the developer email system was up :- :-/
02:27:52 <TimClark> but as i said, i would see no problem with logging that channel, I don't know about the "moving people there" part
02:28:35 <JacobMastel> Well when people start talking about needing help with the nerdy stuff I like to move them there cause it's quieter and easier to deal with them
02:28:55 <TimClark> makes sense to me :D
02:28:56 <JacobMastel> Does Ryan use his Gtalk as his Email?
02:29:34 <TimClark> no idea, really, i catch ryan here as catch can, which is pretty poor :-(
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02:30:31 <pabot> kai_62656 is here. He's developing LMarbles, Lincity-NG, WinHTTrack Website Copier, Gourmet, and NVDA Portable.
02:30:52 <SrgSiler|sAFK> ohai kai_62656
02:31:04 <kai_62656> hi SrgSiler|sAFK !
02:31:06 <kai_62656> :P
02:31:56 <TimClark> hello kai_62656
02:32:09 <kai_62656> hi TimClark
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02:34:09 <SrgSiler|sAFK> ohai purple
02:34:18 <SrgSiler|sAFK> dere are 2 of u
02:34:19 <TimClark> hello purple
02:34:25 * JacobMastel notes that SrgSiler|sAFK is become ben
02:34:29 <kai_62656> ?
02:34:33 <SrgSiler|sAFK> JacobMastel: :P
02:34:34 <DaveDixonII> kai_62656: PM
02:34:41 <kai_62656> DaveDixonII, I saw
02:34:50 <SrgSiler|sAFK> JacobMastel: nah, ive always been this way :P
02:35:14 <JacobMastel> Must be a regional thing :- :-/ :P
02:35:27 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
02:35:36 <SrgSiler|sAFK> NewEngland FTW
02:35:56 <JacobMastel> Oregon FTW!!!
02:36:57 <kai_62656> California FTW!!!
02:37:13 <JacobMastel> Cali nah :P
02:37:30 <JacobMastel> That's where are our old people come from :P
02:37:53 <SrgSiler|sAFK> Conneticut to be more specific
02:37:59 <SrgSiler|sAFK> for me
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02:40:12 <TimClark> KevinPorter: :D
02:40:12 <JacobMastel> hi KevinPorter
02:40:24 <KevinPorter> Evenin' TimClark, JacobMastel. :)
02:41:02 <TimClark> KevinPorter: you have the floor, and no, i'm not giving you a choice :P
02:41:16 <TimClark> :D
02:41:20 <JacobMastel> lol
02:41:36 <TimClark> Free at last, free at last
02:41:47 <JacobMastel> We'll miss you
02:41:55 <KevinPorter> TimClark: Hehe. :P
02:42:22 <JacobMastel> KevinPorter: You know if you don't want op ness you could always give it to me :P
02:43:25 <TimClark> "opness" a new word, I think i like it :P
02:43:38 <JacobMastel> TimClark: Trade mark it!
02:43:55 <TimClark> Opability FTW
02:44:08 <JacobMastel> lol
02:45:00 <KevinPorter> JacobMastel: Close, but no cigar. :P
02:45:11 <JacobMastel> :P
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02:46:58 <kai_62656> hello Scriptdaemon
02:47:05 <Scriptdaemon> Hello.
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03:08:14 <TimClark> Good Night guys, enjoy the rest of your [insert timezone here] :P
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03:40:14 <DaveDixonII> Ubuntu Eee?
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03:41:51 <JacobMastel> Does anyone know of a GOOD virtual desktop manager? One that's not a dead product and actually supports Vista?
03:44:04 * DaveDixonII doesn't know any.
03:44:05 <DaveDixonII> Sorry. :(
03:44:41 <JacobMastel> Bummer
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04:04:07 <JacobMastel> It's slow in here tonight :(
04:04:21 <KevinPorter> Been slow all week it seems.
04:04:30 <KevinPorter> Or maybe I'm just in here at all the wrong times. :P
04:04:43 <JacobMastel> No It's been pretty slow
04:05:14 <JacobMastel> I've got an idea I'll finish PeaZip!! :s
04:05:22 <JacobMastel> Opps I meant :D
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04:17:11 <JacobMastel> I'll have PeaZip PR 3 out tonight if anyone here cares
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04:22:05 <DaveDixonII> excid3|eee: Ubuntu Eee?
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04:23:19 <excid3|eee> CrunchEee
04:23:26 <excid3|eee> im downloading Fedora for it right now
04:24:08 <JacobMastel> You know I wish I could make Dreamweaver do NSIS and AHK :P
04:26:23 <JacobMastel> PeaZip Portable 2.5 Pre-Release 3 is out http://portableapps.com/node/17838
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04:31:02 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now
04:31:20 <JacobMastel> Hi ZachThibeau
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04:31:29 <JacobMastel> PeaZip PR3 is out :D
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04:37:52 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
04:37:57 <rbrt13> hello
04:38:00 <DaveDixonII> hi
04:38:11 <rbrt13> guess where i am
04:38:28 <DaveDixonII> Somewhere i'm guessing.
04:38:43 <rbrt13> i am in my dad's basement on my laptop
04:38:48 <rbrt13> it rocks
04:38:54 <rbrt13> there is a webcam
04:39:03 <rbrt13> and i am on high speed internet
04:39:15 <DaveDixonII> Oh yea. Your went over there this weekend. Did he got *answered my question just now*
04:40:20 <KevinPorter> High-speed interwebs. O_o
04:40:23 <KevinPorter> :P
04:40:27 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: Your still here?
04:40:33 * DaveDixonII needs your email in PM
04:41:04 <KevinPorter> Via the wonderful technology I like to call VNC.
04:41:09 <rbrt13> i am also on windows vista SP1
04:41:18 <DaveDixonII> Eww. Vista
04:41:26 * JacobMastel liks Vista :D
04:41:35 <DaveDixonII> liks?
04:41:40 * rbrt13 likes the aero part
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04:42:09 * KevinPorter likes Vista too.
04:42:13 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: PM?
04:42:50 <KevinPorter> No need to PM it. kevinmichaelporter@gmail.com
04:43:05 <DaveDixonII> You said it not me. :P
04:43:11 <DaveDixonII> Is that your wordpress one?
04:43:41 <KevinPorter> I believe so.
04:43:48 <DaveDixonII> Ty.
04:44:37 <DaveDixonII> That email address does not belong to any user here. Would you like to invite that person to use WordPress.com?
04:44:54 <KevinPorter> All of my addresses forward to a single private address, so I really don't know. :P
04:45:08 <DaveDixonII> XD. Nice
04:45:18 <DaveDixonII> Can you figure out for me. :D
04:45:21 <rbrt13> i have my web server configured to be able to compile Java applets
04:45:26 <rbrt13> yay java server
04:46:02 <KevinPorter> I think I'll have to PM you this one Dave. :P
04:46:13 <DaveDixonII> You do that.
04:47:48 <JacobMastel> Anyone here decent with PS?
04:47:53 <DaveDixonII> KevinPorter: Added. :)
04:48:08 <KevinPorter> Awesome.
04:48:13 <JacobMastel> I need to convert an image to RGB...
04:48:48 <KevinPorter> JacobMastel: Never touched Photoshop once in my life.
04:49:39 <JacobMastel> Got it
04:49:42 <JacobMastel> Yay for google!
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05:12:45 <JacobMastel> ugh...I'm making a low quality logo a nice logo :P
05:12:47 <JacobMastel> So much work
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05:13:17 <rmccue> Boo.
05:14:17 <JacobMastel> Hi rmccue
05:14:20 <DaveDixonII> .ooB
05:17:15 <rmccue> .reverse .ooB
05:17:15 <pabot> rmccue: Boo.
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06:16:41 <TimClark> rmccue slacker :P
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06:27:32 <TimClark> TaffinFoxcroft: Hello, long time no see
06:27:37 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi.
06:27:54 <TaffinFoxcroft> my laptop was confiscated, so i couldn't do much :(
06:28:03 <TimClark> All is quiet in here
06:28:23 <TaffinFoxcroft> as usual :P
06:29:45 <TimClark> Anything happening with you ?
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06:31:42 <TaffinFoxcroft> nope.
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06:53:11 <TimClark> Hi upnPAD pad, nothing happening
06:53:19 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi upnPAD
06:53:21 <upnPAD> ?
06:53:22 <upnPAD> wah
06:53:40 <upnPAD> ive been here for ages :s
06:53:42 <upnPAD> hi
06:54:57 <TimClark> yes, but you just spoke / switched nicks upnPAD :P
06:55:04 <upnPAD> >_>
06:57:22 <TimClark> And we are busy talking about folks we don't like in -ot
07:27:39 <TimClark> .
07:27:43 <TimClark> .
07:27:45 <TimClark> Just a joke, no one was talked about in the -ot :D or were they ;)
07:27:46 <TimClark> .
07:29:00 <TimClark> .
07:29:47 <excid3|eee> .?
07:29:51 <TimClark> Join the -ot for our next exciting adventure of ....
07:30:11 <TimClark> excid3|eee: i was making a funny
07:30:17 <excid3|eee> :D
07:30:30 * excid3|eee had nothing creative to end the last comment with :(
07:31:08 <TimClark> excid3|eee: sometimes a smile is worth a thousand words :D
07:31:36 <excid3|eee> good thing its no longer valentines day :P
07:31:47 <TimClark> ok, maybe 27 words, but that's good enough
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07:45:11 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
07:48:20 <PatrickPatience> .o twitter PatrickPatience
07:48:22 <pabot> <@PatrickPatience> @KevinPorter Thank you... thank you! And @rmccue Lol, WTF... that one's just weird. Uh-bun-toe? (http://twitter.com/PatrickPatience/statuses/1211849953)
07:48:27 <PatrickPatience> Keep that in mind. It's disturbing.
07:48:32 <PatrickPatience> Oops.
07:48:42 <PatrickPatience> "As a combination of Dakota Fanning upskirt and "Bleeders" that scream so loud they make your ears bleed, Push equals one big what the fuck."
07:48:47 <PatrickPatience> Ouu, I swore.
07:48:50 <PatrickPatience> My bad.
07:49:36 <TaffinFoxcroft> /kick PatrickPatience no cussing
07:50:14 <TaffinFoxcroft> TimClark left 10 minutes ago, so the channel has gone that long without an op! :O
07:51:31 <PatrickPatience> Oh noes!
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09:59:19 <TaffinFoxcroft> bye peoples.
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10:35:32 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM, and thats all. He has no idea what to put here, so.... hi!! Love him or hate him, it's your choice.
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10:40:19 <pa_5800> Hi, can i ask how to install an individual application from portable apps suite please?
10:40:58 <pa_5800> I need a version that is greater that the one in portable apps to make it work
10:41:28 <pa_5800> help!
10:41:28 <pabot> pa_5800: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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10:57:47 <Snowy> hey :3
10:58:07 <Snowy> i have a weird error i got after editing the config script/during build
10:59:41 <Snowy> Error in script "K:\VAC\PortableApps.comInstaller.nsi" on line 950 -- aborting creation process
10:59:53 <Snowy> and i haven't been able to figure it out.
11:00:09 <MaienM> it should be giving a bit more information about the error.... can you pastebin that?
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11:01:16 <Snowy> kk
11:06:45 <Snowy> http://pastebin.com/m5a7ca224
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11:17:57 <Snowy> find anything MaienM?
11:18:18 <MaienM> ah sorry, hadn't noticed you message yet... I'll take a look
11:19:08 <MaienM> you don't seem to have any files in the map Other, is that right?
11:19:24 <Snowy> i dont even have a folder listed a Other
11:19:27 <Snowy> -a*
11:20:05 <MaienM> well then you should read this: http://portableapps.com/node/12851
11:20:16 <MaienM> thats the format all applications should be in.
11:22:18 <Snowy> thanks ill give it a read :D
11:22:24 <MaienM> you're welcome
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11:36:51 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
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13:26:20 <ZachThibeau> morning everyone
13:53:35 <ZachThibeau> well I am off to church bbl
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14:37:40 <pabot> sergentsiler is awsome and is the most.... Hey, wait, OMG!!!! PIE!!!! <3
14:37:47 <sergentsiler> ohai
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14:49:28 <sergentsiler> apparently ben is still having problems :/
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15:24:14 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
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16:08:12 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
16:09:14 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: am I cutting enough? :-( http://portableapps.com/node/18082#comment-111476
16:09:22 <ChrisMorgan> Doesn't it just sicken you...
16:09:42 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks for bearing up even under such ridiculous and depressing complaints...
16:09:51 <ChrisMorgan> SpeedCrunch Portable and gVim Portable ftw :D
16:10:40 <ChrisMorgan> npr(59;1)+npr(59;2)+npr(59;3)+npr(59;4)+npr(59;5)+npr(59;6)+npr(59;7)+npr(59;8)+npr(59;9)+npr(59;10)+npr(59;11)+npr(59;12)+npr(59;13)+npr(59;14)+npr(59;15)+npr(59;16)+npr(59;17)+npr(59;18)+npr(59;19)+npr(59;20)+npr(59;21)+npr(59;22)+npr(59;23)+npr(59;24)+npr(59;25)+npr(59;26)+npr(59;27)+npr(59;28)+npr(59;29)+npr(59;30)+npr(59;31)+npr(59;32)+npr(59;33)+npr(59;34)+npr(59;35)+npr(59;36)+npr(59;37)+npr(59;38)+npr(59;
16:11:17 <JohnTHaller> having more issues dealing with Bart.S and his DiaShapes thing
16:11:43 <DaveDixonII> ChrisMorgan: Couldn't you just use a pastebin for that?
16:11:50 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, noticed that, has he been in here?
16:12:01 <JohnTHaller> No
16:12:03 <ChrisMorgan> DaveDixonII: why? Just a simple mathematical expression :D
16:12:20 <DaveDixonII> It flooded my window. :P
16:12:27 <JohnTHaller> And I'm so sick of arguing with him saying that he HAS to change the installer. Everything else is wrong but him. I'm just doing it myself.
16:12:58 <ChrisMorgan> I like the maths though to show that with even only 11 options, you have 108,505,111 possible permutations :D
16:13:16 <ChrisMorgan> DaveDixonII: for Mibbit, it just overflows over the edge and is hidden :D
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16:14:06 <JacobMastel> Good morning all
16:14:09 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: can I be spokesperson for PortableApps.com? Somehow though I think I'd prefer to do more coding :P
16:14:11 <ChrisMorgan> Hey JacobMastel
16:14:42 <ChrisMorgan> Some of their requests are pretty depressing though. One of the hazards of running a "community" site.
16:14:49 <ChrisMorgan> s/requests/demands/
16:14:52 <DaveDixonII> QuakeNet is s retarded when it comes to registering channels.
16:14:56 <DaveDixonII> so*
16:15:49 <ChrisMorgan> palogbot: uri?
16:15:49 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-02-15#T16-15-49
16:16:10 <JacobMastel> What's going on?
16:16:14 <ChrisMorgan> DaveDixonII: never mind, the HTML view just overflows to the right :P
16:16:18 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: read the logs! :D
16:16:24 <JacobMastel> grrr
16:16:30 <JacobMastel> That's against my religion :P
16:16:30 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
16:16:44 <ChrisMorgan> Nothing much, just complaining about the complaining of complainers
16:16:58 <ChrisMorgan> And I practiced being as cutting as JohnTHaller - http://portableapps.com/node/18082#comment-111476
16:17:00 <DaveDixonII> ChrisMorgan: /me uses browser and notices it goes on forever and ever. :P
16:17:13 <ChrisMorgan> For ever and a day
16:17:17 <MaienM> you're doing a pretty good job at that ChrisMorgan :P
16:17:23 <ChrisMorgan> YAY!
16:17:58 <DaveDixonII> .o twitter KevinPorter
16:18:01 <pabot> <@KevinPorter> Time yet again to head off to churh. (http://twitter.com/KevinPorter/statuses/1212532605)
16:18:03 <DaveDixonII> .o twitter dbdii407
16:18:04 <pabot> <@dbdii407> @KevinPorter Oh do i remember 'churh' (Physc) (http://twitter.com/dbdii407/statuses/1212579701)
16:18:08 <DaveDixonII> :/
16:19:31 <ChrisMorgan> Well, I'm glad I fixed this laptop up... it wasn't booting up at all, hardware issue with the Compaq Presario V3000 - http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01087277&lc=en&cc=us - and when after about 100 attempts to start it had failed (with battery, without, AC too), I tried battery out for ~12 hours and then it worked 3rd time :-) So I installed the new BIOS while I could! Whew...
16:19:40 <ChrisMorgan> That's why I wasn't on yesterday...
16:19:59 <ChrisMorgan> And tomorrow night we leave for Australia once more :-)
16:20:04 <DaveDixonII> ChrisMorgan: Since when did you get on daily? ;)
16:20:26 <ChrisMorgan> When I've been in Kolkata it's been pretty much that.
16:20:40 <MaienM> I really should get some precision tools and fix my laptop....
16:20:49 <MaienM> busted power connector :P
16:21:24 <JohnTHaller> Sick of arguing with Bart.S so I did it my damn self: http://portableapps.com/node/14939#comment-111478
16:22:19 * DaveDixonII is afraid to click the link
16:22:27 <ChrisMorgan> Well done :-)
16:22:34 <ChrisMorgan> You may actually win, that way...
16:22:55 <JacobMastel> Wow go ChrisMorgan
16:22:58 <JohnTHaller> I'm just sick of him saying its impossible without altering the installer (which would screw up the platform and updater)
16:23:18 <JohnTHaller> He was sulking and gonna pull Diashapes for 'legal reasons'
16:23:57 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: Thanks :-)
16:24:13 <DaveDixonII> JohnTHaller: I'm sorry for you bro. :(
16:24:45 <JohnTHaller> Meh. Took 25 minutes of my time. It's done. Now others can use the method if we run across any other app addons that need their own launchers.
16:25:03 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, that could be convenient.
16:25:30 * DaveDixonII has been slacking on the forums latly.
16:25:49 <ChrisMorgan> DaveDixonII: you need something to do!
16:26:15 <DaveDixonII> ChrisMorgan: Does it involve talking to you? ;)
16:26:33 <ChrisMorgan> You just need to find something to do, that's all. It may or it may not.
16:26:36 <ChrisMorgan> Up to you.
16:26:52 <DaveDixonII> Hmm. I shouldn't bug you. That would be horrid.
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16:26:58 <ChrisMorgan> :P
16:27:14 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: do you think that Sun will ever get back to you about Java Portable?
16:27:25 <ChrisMorgan> Or Freenode about a PortableApps.com group on their IRC network?
16:27:41 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: He si being a pain in the ass with PeaZip too :P
16:27:45 <JohnTHaller> we'll never hear from freenoder
16:27:51 <DaveDixonII> That segundo ideal i would like to know. :)
16:27:53 <JohnTHaller> i'm gonna bing sun again this week
16:28:04 <JacobMastel> But Ryan and Patrick don't agree with him so I'm not gonna do what he says
16:28:09 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: What?
16:28:10 <ChrisMorgan> yay!
16:28:28 <JohnTHaller> JacobMastel: what does he want you to do
16:28:30 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: call Sun once more about Java Portable
16:29:06 <JacobMastel> A couple changes to the code
16:29:11 <JacobMastel> How it looks up Find:Proc
16:29:21 <JacobMastel> Opps sorry didn't mean to have a smiley there.
16:29:24 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: what's happinging about Nathan with Celestia and that ... illegal portable applications site ...?
16:29:25 <ChrisMorgan> :P
16:29:37 <JacobMastel> How it stores its data
16:30:02 <JacobMastel> I put PR 3 out last night and it's working well
16:30:12 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: what about celestia?
16:30:16 <ChrisMorgan> Bart.S often does things like that, normally it's helpful, but when it gets to FindProc he's often wrong as are most people at first, as it's for checking a /local/ copy, not the portable copy which has already been caught by a Mutex normal
16:30:26 <JacobMastel> So I think it's ready when you are. Just sign it :P
16:30:30 <JacobMastel> ChrisMorgan: Correct :D
16:30:38 <JohnTHaller> JacobMastel: what's ready?
16:30:39 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: just wondering what's going to happen to his app, and what's happening to him on this community in view of that...
16:30:46 <JacobMastel> PeaZip
16:30:46 <ChrisMorgan> PZ PR3
16:30:49 <DaveDixonII> Thank gosh i'm not into deep PortableApps
16:30:56 <ChrisMorgan> DaveDixonII: :D
16:30:58 * DaveDixonII is doing lightscreen and thats it
16:31:07 <JacobMastel> DaveDixonII: Random comments like that aren't needed when we're working take that to -ot :P
16:31:43 * ChrisMorgan is doing only BPBible Portable atm, but Inkscape Portable should go official once he's got round to fixing up AppDataRedirect.nsh v0.3
16:31:49 <DaveDixonII> JacobMastel: FindProc and PortableApps is part of PortableApps.com?
16:31:53 <ChrisMorgan> And now the release team :-)
16:32:03 <ChrisMorgan> FindProcDLL is an NSIS plugin
16:32:11 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: http://portableapps.com/node/17838
16:32:12 <JohnTHaller> i think nathan pulled the site. it seems down
16:32:17 <ChrisMorgan> PortableApps is nothing - PortableApps*.com* :P
16:32:20 <DaveDixonII> ChrisMorgan: You get the point. :P
16:33:16 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: Any chance that could get out today or tomorrow?
16:33:33 <JohnTHaller> JacobMastel: sure
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16:33:41 <JacobMastel> Awesome! :D
16:33:42 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
16:33:54 <ChrisMorgan> I've been wondering about redoing PAFChecker as an HTA thingy with jQuery and jQuery UI or Ext JS...
16:34:04 <ChrisMorgan> For the moment though I think it's fine as it is :P
16:34:40 <JohnTHaller> I'd like to stay away from HTA
16:34:47 <JacobMastel> HTA?
16:34:52 <ChrisMorgan> HTA would mean: a) no security model to worry about (free read/write of disk), b) no Linux support, c) much easier working with things like version numebrs and strings
16:34:54 <ChrisMorgan> HyperText Application
16:35:13 <ChrisMorgan> HTML with a bit of extra tagging, IE only but exempt from the security model
16:35:14 <JacobMastel> Never heard of it :_\
16:35:18 <JohnTHaller> We can already work with strings and version numbers pretty easy with the NSIS logic library and stuff.
16:35:30 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, depending on a local install of IE = bad
16:35:32 <ChrisMorgan> Not really with checking a 4-part one
16:35:50 <JacobMastel> Agreed never depend on the host machine.
16:35:57 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: consiered delphi / lazarus?
16:36:00 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I just see it as RAD... something like Prism or AIR would be better
16:36:04 <ChrisMorgan> No, not yet
16:36:06 <JohnTHaller> Everyone notice our less spam?
16:36:10 <JacobMastel> Yes
16:36:21 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't really noticed much of the spam at all, I never visit the OT forums
16:36:29 <JohnTHaller> I implemented reCaptcha. a couple days ago and it seems to have dropped off since.
16:36:55 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't ever used Delphi, I'd like to get into it a bit at some time - what's Lazarus like?
16:37:06 <JacobMastel> What's the point in spamming...just some retard needing somehting to do?
16:37:09 <ChrisMorgan> I know that the author has been somewhat spamming our forums with new threads... but ah well :P
16:37:41 <ChrisMorgan> Say, JohnTHaller, could you use Lazarus for PortableApps.com Platform development?
16:37:52 <JacobMastel> Oh and JohnTHaller if you made a separate Address book app for TB portable I'd be way happy :D
16:38:34 <JohnTHaller> lazarus is kinda delphi 7 but open source and a few things added. both are visual pascal
16:38:56 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Nope. It's too out of date and doesn't support a bunch of the stuff in Delphi I use.
16:39:14 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... Delphi 7 was from when?
16:39:33 <ChrisMorgan> So is there any free way of developing for the Platform, including compiling it?
16:40:24 <ChrisMorgan> My dad has had Delphi/Pascal experience... he converted the US government's public domain EPANET tool to Visual Basic by hand for his WaterSums software... quite a task!
16:40:31 <ChrisMorgan> However I've never done any
16:40:56 <JacobMastel> :-0
16:40:59 <ChrisMorgan> I just don't really like wxWidgets as a solution for "small" things, it's too big I reckon.
16:42:55 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: do you reckon MinGW should (for compilers for IDEs) go in [CommonFiles or App\MinGW], or go in a sibling directory MinGWPortable and have a launcher which either sets the path to include App\MinGW\bin and runs command prompt, or runs MSYS?
16:43:03 <ChrisMorgan> I'm currently leaning towards the sibling
16:44:00 <ChrisMorgan> People who can use e.g. Code::Blocks or wxDev-C++ or CodeLite are the sorts of people who should have enough sense to make sure that they've got MinGW...
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16:45:08 <ChrisMorgan> I should start up commercially offering quick making of portable apps :D
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16:47:17 <JacobMastel> Something tells me that would go against are OSS licenses..
16:47:22 <JacobMastel> *our
16:47:28 <ChrisMorgan> why?
16:47:39 <JacobMastel> Profit?
16:47:44 <ChrisMorgan> no
16:48:11 <ChrisMorgan> If it wasn't GPL software, I'd need to wait for the installer to be permitted to be used for such, unless I could publish it to PortableApps.com with my client's agreement :D
16:48:15 <JacobMastel> You'd be selling an app that someone else made...I'd think they'd have a problem with that.
16:48:19 <ChrisMorgan> Or write my own installer
16:48:23 <ChrisMorgan> No, that's fine.
16:48:29 <ChrisMorgan> I'd be charging for making the wrapper.
16:48:34 <JacobMastel> Oh okay
16:48:37 <ChrisMorgan> Not selling the app.
16:48:49 <ChrisMorgan> I've thought of it before, could actually work...
16:48:56 <ChrisMorgan> But I think not yet :P
16:49:33 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/18091 - at least he's polite...
16:49:42 <ChrisMorgan> I'll invite him to come in here
16:50:03 <purple__> http://purpler.deviantart.com/art/Sunshine-112979635
16:50:29 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: You can write and look at the code using NSIS (set language to Pascal). But you can't test and compile without delphi
16:50:51 <ChrisMorgan> Using NSIS?
16:50:53 <ChrisMorgan> You mean Notepad++?
16:50:58 <DaveDixonII> I don't know how i understood NSIS.
16:51:04 <DaveDixonII> I think i just got it. O_o
16:51:06 <JohnTHaller> chris yeah, I meant N++
16:51:42 <JohnTHaller> You'll be able to charge folks for a few things. I've had some commercial devs ask about assistance.
16:51:44 <ChrisMorgan> I'd use my own gVim Portable :D
16:52:01 <ChrisMorgan> Support, will that go commercial?
16:52:48 <JohnTHaller> No, I mean publishers of commercial software who are willing to pay a dev to help make it a PAF
16:53:20 <ChrisMorgan> ok
16:53:35 <JohnTHaller> ok, brunch time. back on tonight
16:53:44 <JohnTHaller> later all
16:53:52 <ChrisMorgan> I've thought about it recently, looking at VNC clients and such, I quite like http://crossloop.com/ approach
16:53:55 <ChrisMorgan> Bye
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16:53:59 <ChrisMorgan> I'll go to bed now too
16:54:09 <DaveDixonII> Gn ChrisMorgan. :)
16:54:24 <ChrisMorgan> Has anyone here used Crossloop?
16:54:57 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't but PC User of Australia recommended it a couple of years ago I think, I recognise the screenshots :P
16:54:59 <excid3> i have not heard of it
16:55:07 * DaveDixonII remembers it
16:55:09 <ChrisMorgan> It's really quite a nifty approach for support
16:55:25 <excid3> thats an interesting idea
16:55:46 <ChrisMorgan> Problem is that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software marks it as GPL, but it's not, it's just based on TightVNC which is GPL. Their bits are not GPL.
16:56:04 <ChrisMorgan> But no, they do it in a way which doesn't violate the GPL, they've been careful about that.
16:56:16 <DaveDixonII> Yup. I've used it before
16:56:19 <DaveDixonII> Didn't get it. :/
16:57:08 <ChrisMorgan> No?
16:57:22 <ChrisMorgan> It looks like a great idea to me, so long as you've got suckers for it
16:57:28 <ChrisMorgan> *people who are willing to pay
16:57:35 * DaveDixonII didn't understand how it works
16:58:33 <ChrisMorgan> You have a problem. You search for someone who might be able to fix it. You ask them about it. They say "$100,000 per hour". You say OK. They take 10 minutes to fix it as you watch. You cough up :P
17:02:45 * ChrisMorgan is SICK of that Lazarus guy, he keeps on posting everywhere about it... his old thread, a new thread, bumping a 2-year-old and utterly irrelevant thread, ...
17:02:59 <DaveDixonII> Link?
17:03:09 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/5633
17:03:20 <JacobMastel> ChrisMorgan: The whole being resurected thing must have gone to his head :P
17:03:28 <ChrisMorgan> :P
17:04:38 <DaveDixonII> Haha! 2 year old thread
17:04:49 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... yeuch.
17:14:33 * ChrisMorgan abuses the new quoting techniques put in... http://portableapps.com/node/16775#comment-111482
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17:18:34 <ZachThibeau> back y'all
17:20:50 <excid3> me too! me too!
17:21:07 <DaveDixonII> Howdy ZachThibeau!
17:21:12 <ZachThibeau> :)
17:21:53 <JacobMastel> Hi Zach
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17:28:42 <Bensawsome> >_>
17:28:43 <Bensawsome> <_<
17:28:49 <ZachThibeau> howdy Bensawsome
17:29:58 <excid3> ^_^
17:30:06 <excid3> v_v
17:30:11 <Bensawsome> lol ^_^
17:30:17 <Bensawsome> hey guys
17:30:27 <excid3> ohai
17:30:58 <Bensawsome> ohaithar excid3!
17:31:01 <Bensawsome> ;)
17:31:06 <excid3> :D
17:44:59 <excid3> assembly coding is no fun
17:45:38 * ZachThibeau is working on a web style
17:45:56 <Mir> <.<
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18:01:00 <ZachThibeau> howdy JacobMastel
18:01:14 <JacobMastel> Hi ZachThibeau
18:01:16 <JacobMastel> How's it going?
18:01:24 <ZachThibeau> not much
18:01:48 <ZachThibeau> working on my weblayout
18:01:51 <ZachThibeau> http://zachthibeau.com/image/image/weblayout.png
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18:04:21 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
18:04:23 <excid3> not bad, will look better with content ;)
18:04:55 <gluxon> Guys I need some help right now...
18:05:07 <excid3> whatcha need?
18:05:16 <gluxon> Mcafee is DELETING ALL OF MY NSIS LAUNCHERS!!!
18:05:54 <gluxon> I can barely even open a portable app!
18:06:03 <excid3> wow
18:06:13 <excid3> is there anything keeping you with Mcafee?
18:06:14 <MaienM> delete mcafee?
18:06:30 <gluxon> ... Whenever I kill it from the taskmanager... it opens up again...
18:06:44 <excid3> thats what it should do though, its an antivirus :P
18:06:49 <excid3> uninstall it
18:06:57 <gluxon> I just want to disable it until Mcafee or However you spell it updates it's dumb database.
18:07:09 <excid3> ah
18:07:12 <excid3> idk how to do that
18:07:15 <MaienM> it can probably be disabled from the menu
18:07:35 <MaienM> or you can boot in safe mode and rename the exe, so it cannot run
18:07:49 <gluxon> Great, now it's deleting ClamWin...
18:07:50 <MaienM> or you can try to somehow add NSIS to the whitelist
18:07:57 <gluxon> But how do I do that?
18:08:00 <MaienM> idk
18:08:16 <MaienM> I'd go with either uninstalling it, or renaming the exe so you can disable it
18:09:36 <gluxon> Okay... I think Disabling scan of "computer files" fixed it...
18:09:44 <gluxon> Now I have to recompile everything... :(
18:11:33 <excid3> :(
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18:12:25 <gluxon> This could be bad news for portable users...
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18:31:03 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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18:59:24 <ZachThibeau> wb JacobMastel
19:00:30 <JacobMastel> THank you ZachThibeau
19:00:35 <JacobMastel> Did i miss anything?
19:00:45 <ZachThibeau> <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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19:00:46 <ZachThibeau> <ZachThibeau> wb JacobMastel
19:00:48 <ZachThibeau> <JacobMastel> THank you ZachThibeau
19:00:50 <ZachThibeau> <JacobMastel> Did i miss anything?
19:00:52 <ZachThibeau> nope
19:00:54 <ZachThibeau> guess not :P
19:00:58 <gluxon> :D
19:01:09 <ZachThibeau> lol btw howdy gluxon
19:01:17 <gluxon> Hey :D
19:05:53 <JacobMastel> I wonder if PeaZip will be out today...
19:07:00 <JacobMastel> ZachThibeau: So what exactly is Lazarus?
19:07:08 <JacobMastel> And please don't tell me to read my Bible :P
19:07:20 <ZachThibeau> Lazarus is an IDE for freepascal
19:07:34 <JacobMastel> Ah
19:07:36 <ZachThibeau> it provides an interface like delphi 7
19:07:41 <JacobMastel> So in otherword nothing I care about :P
19:07:42 <Mir> also its a spinnoff of limewire
19:07:48 <Mir> ~_0
19:08:29 <ZachThibeau> Mir: don't confuse the poor guy :P
19:09:05 <Mir> but confusion is fun to watch
19:09:14 <Mir> 8D
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19:11:03 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller3
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19:13:45 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
19:14:08 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller wb
19:14:58 <DaveDixonII> We will know its JohnTHaller when he id's. :)
19:15:23 <JacobMastel> Hi JohnTHaller
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19:17:19 <DaveDixonII> That cannot be him.
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19:17:39 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
19:17:43 <JohnTHaller> There we go
19:17:44 <DaveDixonII> There we go. :D
19:17:47 <JacobMastel> Hello JohnTHaller having issues?
19:17:48 <ZachThibeau> awesome :)
19:17:53 <JohnTHaller> stupid internet connection.
19:17:57 <JacobMastel> :P
19:17:57 <JohnTHaller> yes, Time Warner sucks
19:18:08 <JacobMastel> How was brunch?
19:18:10 <ZachThibeau> yeah I kind of figured something was wrong
19:18:25 <JohnTHaller> you'd think paying them $1800 a year they'd get my internet and cable right... but no
19:18:25 <DaveDixonII> JohnTHaller: I take that back. You are you. :)
19:18:37 <JacobMastel> :O
19:18:44 <JacobMastel> That's a lot!
19:18:58 <DaveDixonII> Get Vonage!! :D
19:19:16 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: Do we have the RT newsletter up yet?
19:19:54 <JohnTHaller> Nope... not yet. Gimme a minute
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19:20:13 <pabot> sar3th is working on LyX portable
19:20:23 <sar3th> hi all
19:20:24 <gluxon> Hey sar3th!
19:22:11 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: sure just wondering
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19:38:40 <gluxon> Alright... I know this seems really, really REALLY, dumb... but I think I've got this virus... http://portableapps.com/node/17385
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19:38:44 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
19:39:03 <gluxon> My computer's got all of the things he's listed... and McAfee is acting weird...
19:39:20 <DrRoetger> can anyone tell me wether its possible or not to get my usb flasdrive protected with a password?
19:39:40 <markomlm> hello @all
19:39:59 <sar3th> hi markomlm
19:40:00 <gluxon> DrRoetger: Yes, but it's messy and requires admin privs to unlock it.
19:40:07 <sar3th> heya gluxon that's pretty bad =(
19:40:14 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: Thanks email received
19:40:14 <gluxon> I know...
19:40:54 <gluxon> for Every web site I open with Google Chrome I get the "something went wrong with displaying this website" message.
19:40:59 <gluxon> And I can't download anything...
19:41:01 <DrRoetger> ok, thanks gluxon, weird though, since it's portable, I would excpect something to be available
19:41:18 <gluxon> Well, If you want I can tell you more about it.
19:41:35 <DrRoetger> if you are willing to, please!
19:41:56 <gluxon> There's a program called TrueCrypt.. which has the abilitie to password protect a partition. But it requires administrative priviliges to run.
19:42:38 <gluxon> So you won't be able to use your usb drive on computers with no administrative priviliges, macs, and linux.
19:42:53 <gluxon> I recommend staying with u3 if it's a SanDisk Cruzer...
19:43:13 <gluxon> Let me find a link to TrueCrypt Portable.
19:43:29 <gluxon> If you want it that is...
19:43:35 <DrRoetger> so, generally every computer in an internetcafe wont work with it?
19:43:38 <sar3th> gluxon, doesn't tc offer you to install to a usb-drive?
19:43:42 <gluxon> Here it is...
19:44:00 <gluxon> sar3th: I don't know. I've never tried it, but a lot of the people on the forums like it a lot :D
19:44:03 <gluxon> Anyway...
19:44:03 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/node/14374
19:44:22 <JohnTHaller> Release Team Mailing List Setup: http://portableapps.com/node/17721#comment-111492
19:45:02 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: can I help with the status page?
19:45:04 <DrRoetger> ok! Ill go see if it works for me! thank a lot anyway!
19:45:12 <gluxon> :D
19:45:18 <gluxon> Glad to help.
19:45:18 <JacobMastel> And there's support so we should move to -dev
19:45:45 <gluxon> You mean -ot right?
19:45:51 <JacobMastel> No I mean -dev
19:45:56 <JacobMastel> -ot = off topic
19:46:01 <JacobMastel> -dev = developer talk
19:47:36 <Mir> developers..... you gotta love em because without them nothing would get done
19:47:49 <JacobMastel> That's rigth ;)
19:48:05 * Mir now aviods doing the bathroom and leaves that work for a developer
19:48:09 <Mir> :p
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20:11:38 <djanuary> is anyone from the portable apps business team in here?
20:12:02 <sar3th> define business team ;)
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20:12:29 <pabot> SergentSiler is awsome and is the most.... Hey, wait, OMG!!!! PIE!!!! <3
20:12:43 <djanuary> I want to distribute their software.
20:12:54 <djanuary> so I need to know who to talk to
20:13:05 <sar3th> JohnTHaller is best i think
20:13:07 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller is the founder. you should speak to him
20:13:12 <ZachThibeau> though he seems to be away atm
20:13:28 <djanuary> excellent thank you.
20:13:48 <djanuary> since this is the first time I have used this chat, is there a way to send a message directly to him whil he is AFK?
20:14:58 <ZachThibeau> use /privmsg JohnTHaller and enter your message here I suggest also leaving your email in that message as well in case he doesn't get back to you today
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20:15:30 <JacobMastel> ZachThibeau: Actually just /msg JohTHaller
20:15:51 <djanuary1> Thank you.
20:16:24 <djanuary1> the command and message in same line? or press enter after command?
20:16:33 <SergentSiler> on the same line
20:16:41 <JacobMastel> Same line
20:16:46 <djanuary1> great thank you.
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20:16:54 <JacobMastel> No prob
20:17:07 <SergentSiler> Timing FTW
20:18:17 <ZachThibeau> later guys
20:18:21 <JacobMastel> Bye Zach
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20:19:20 <JacobMastel> Having trouble djanuary?
20:19:26 <djanuary> yeah
20:19:40 <djanuary> my internet connection is SAT and keeps dropping
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20:21:30 <djanuary> the first time it droped it wouldn't let me come back as djanuary so I added the one.
20:21:39 <djanuary> then it droped came back and added me back as djanuary. lol
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20:22:02 <SrgSiler|sAFK> XD
20:22:41 <djanuary> what does the star by the name mean?
20:22:55 <JacobMastel> It means there an op
20:23:03 <djanuary> ah okay.
20:23:05 <JacobMastel> They have the right to mute the room kick and ban users.
20:23:15 <djanuary> ah room gods
20:23:24 <JacobMastel> Basically ;)
20:23:53 <JacobMastel> The sound icon by my name gives me the right to talk when the room is muted and show's an official developer
20:24:26 <djanuary> and as an official dev do you write apps or support them with PA?
20:25:22 <JacobMastel> A portable apps is just a normal app with a launher written for it. The launcher moves files to the HDD before running the actual app, once that is done it monitors to see when the original app is finished. When it is the launcher puts the files back on the Flash Drive
20:25:39 <JacobMastel> My apps are PeaZip, Stickies, and Jooleem
20:25:48 <JacobMastel> And Tick5
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20:26:33 <djanuary> will have to check those others out. I know what jooleem is. great app
20:27:07 <djanuary> I have only been dealing with PA for about 2 weeks
20:27:28 <JacobMastel> Well feel free to lurk in here ya may learn a lot....or have permanent brain damage one of the two :P
20:27:32 <djanuary> I am an applications packager and in the last two weeks in dealing with my many systems I use daily I don't know how I lived without PA. lol
20:27:40 <djanuary> never thought of setting aps up that way.
20:28:27 <JacobMastel> It's fairly easy once you get the hang of NSIS ( the language we use to create the launchers )
20:28:46 <JacobMastel> nsis.sourceforge.net
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20:28:54 <djanuary> I have not used NSIS I primarily deal with install shield and Wise
20:29:09 <djanuary> functionally how diffrent is it?
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20:29:20 <JacobMastel> I've never used the others so I couldn't tell you sorry
20:29:57 <djanuary> lol, thats alright I am heading to the link you sent. After I figure out NSIS I will let you know.
20:30:30 <sar3th> it's quite different
20:30:39 <sar3th> NSIS=nullsoft scriptable install system
20:30:49 <sar3th> =scripting language
20:31:15 <solanus> I just started playing with NSIS - it's not too hard. I'm used to INNO and while the syntax is different, a lot of the concepts are the same
20:31:36 <djanuary> WISe and installshield are also scripted.
20:32:06 <sar3th> yeah but iirc their tools to build installers keep you far away from scripting yourself
20:32:11 <djanuary> is NSIS designed for .msi installs (before compiling into .exe) or is it completely seprate
20:32:18 <djanuary> in otherwords does it use the same rules.
20:32:27 <sar3th> completely seperate
20:32:49 <djanuary> so it will be a new set of standards. might take me a little while. lol
20:32:54 <JacobMastel> It compiles directly to .exe
20:32:58 <solanus> PA provides a bunch of templates that walk you thru NSIS for PA
20:33:14 <JacobMastel> Look at some of the source codes for the launchers.
20:33:24 <JacobMastel> They are the .nsi files and can be opened with notepad.
20:33:35 <JacobMastel> Although i prefer Notepad++ for it's syntax highlighting :D
20:33:38 <sar3th> learning nsis is not too simple but there are many people who can help you and the documentation is quite good as well
20:34:35 <djanuary> great.
20:34:52 <djanuary> be back in a minute. going to check out a .nsi see what it looks like
20:36:33 <solanus> Hey, I'm going to post my first app in a day or two (waiting on SF). Its pretty simple, and I'm not really a programmer, but I hope it's worth something to some people...
20:36:43 <JacobMastel> What app?
20:37:42 <solanus> I wrote it myself as an HTML app. It is an overlay of the desktop that you can configure with your own links.
20:38:14 <sar3th> sounds interesting, when will it be released?
20:38:31 <JacobMastel> In a day or two he's waiting on SF :P
20:38:41 <JacobMastel> (12:39:29 PM) solanus: Hey, I'm going to post my first app in a day or two (waiting on SF)
20:38:42 <djanuary> oh yeah totaly diffrent from .msi scripting lol
20:39:02 <sar3th> djanuary: told you so ;)
20:39:15 <sar3th> JacobMastel: sry forgot that again
20:39:16 <solanus> I call it DeskSkin, and it uses CSS, HTML, and scripting to set it up. Be kind to a noob!:P
20:39:22 <djanuary> look forward to seeing you ass
20:39:28 <JacobMastel> :O
20:39:33 <djanuary> app
20:39:34 <djanuary> sorry
20:39:37 <JacobMastel> :P
20:39:42 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
20:39:47 <JacobMastel> lmafo
20:40:03 <SrgSiler|sAFK> Typos FTW
20:40:06 <JacobMastel> Well time for me to go :P
20:40:11 <JacobMastel> Be back later.
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20:40:16 <solanus> Well, I could use that as the BG for the app, but I don't think you'd like it
20:40:20 <djanuary> talk to you later
20:40:42 <djanuary> lol
20:40:50 <djanuary> prob not a good idea
20:41:46 <djanuary> so what is the funtionality of the app or is it just for customizing the DT environment?
20:41:57 <solanus> My face would not be too much better!
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20:44:42 <solanus> It was a response to a lot of people asking for a portable desktop BG, with links to places on their PA drive - and because I didn't like to PA menu way, since it permanently switched desktop pix on me a couple of times.
20:45:11 <djanuary> ah okay
20:45:45 <djanuary> so far the only complaint I have about PA menu is it only likes .exe or am I doing something wrong?
20:45:45 <solanus> Then I found out how to link to the Special folders on the host, too, so I added links to My Computer, My Documents, Control Panel, Printers...
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20:46:12 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
20:46:14 <djanuary> handy
20:46:23 <solanus> Nope, only likes exe. I made an NSIS launcher to launch my HTA
20:47:09 <djanuary> okay, I discovered a work around to enable other application types. but didn't know if I missed something in PA or not. good to know my time finding a work around wasn't wasted.
20:47:24 <djanuary> it is another portable app launcher called pstart
20:48:28 <solanus> Anyway, gotta go. Schlater.
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20:48:39 <djanuary> C-ya
20:48:57 <sar3th> bye solanus
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20:49:51 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now
20:50:21 <ZachThibeau> back all
20:50:31 <djanuary> wb
20:50:33 <sar3th> wb ZachThibeau
20:50:43 <ZachThibeau> ty
20:51:33 <ZachThibeau> I suppose I should get to releasing some updates I've been neglecting XD
20:51:43 <ZachThibeau> I have the time now :P
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20:54:24 <ZachThibeau> afternoon TimClark
20:54:26 <TimClark> Hi Guys :(
20:54:34 <sar3th> hi TimClark
20:54:35 <ZachThibeau> whats wrong?
20:54:43 <TimClark> I'm trying to help gluxon with his infection
20:54:43 <ZachThibeau> why the sad smiley
20:54:50 <ZachThibeau> ahh ok
20:55:05 <ZachThibeau> the problem with macaffee right?
20:55:17 <TimClark> It is very hard, I could do it if i was infront of the machine, but doing it in irc sucks
20:55:34 <TimClark> ZachThibeau: no, the infection has messed with mcafee !!!
20:55:41 <ZachThibeau> ouch :(
20:55:53 <ZachThibeau> thats not good period
20:56:03 <TimClark> I have delt with some thing like this before, but I need to be in front of the machine
20:56:09 <ZachThibeau> hmm
20:56:24 <TimClark> I need to look at things, kill things, read things,
20:56:39 <TimClark> follow startup entries, and the like
20:56:42 <ZachThibeau> I wonder if another Antivirus scanner would help. something like avg but the risk would be to that too
20:57:09 <TimClark> AND it appears that it has disabled his System Restore Points :(
20:57:14 <ZachThibeau> ouch D:
20:57:27 <ZachThibeau> not cool
20:57:45 <TimClark> Yes, System Restore can solve a world of problems when things get too bad
20:57:51 <ZachThibeau> yeah I know
20:58:02 <TimClark> Some folks hate it, But I would never work without it
20:58:33 <TimClark> Anyway, so now gluxons mother has called him to lunch :O
20:58:36 <ZachThibeau> hmm... if he had a windows disk he could force a system restore I think
20:58:45 <ZachThibeau> I don't remember though
20:59:03 <TimClark> ZachThibeau: there are no System Restore Points, they have been wiped out
20:59:12 <ZachThibeau> damn D:
20:59:20 <ZachThibeau> this is a problem
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20:59:44 <ZachThibeau> howdy pa_0209 how may we assist you today
20:59:49 <TimClark> I got him to disable a couple of things in the startup, that might help
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21:02:48 <ZachThibeau> pa_0209: do you have any need of assistance?
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21:20:11 <ZachThibeau> brb guys
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21:22:07 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
21:22:40 <TimClark> Anybody here have experience with cleaning a system from infection manually [and more importantly remotely]
21:23:02 <sar3th> depends on how messed up it is
21:23:30 <TimClark> pretty messed up i think
21:25:19 <sar3th> i would upload a image of some (german) linux with 3 virusscanners based on knoppix by a well-known german magazine (c't) and tell him to download, burn and "purify" his system using that disc
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21:26:25 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
21:26:33 <rbrt13> hello
21:27:09 <sar3th> hi rbrt13
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21:40:56 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
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21:48:32 <pabot> ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/
21:48:39 <ptmb> Hi everybody
21:48:51 <MaienM> hello ptmb
21:48:55 <ptmb> Hi MaienM
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21:51:46 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
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22:01:37 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
22:02:06 <TimClark> Well, gluxon has left my pm, and I don't know where things stand :-(
22:02:45 <sar3th> we can ask him tomorrow i guess
22:03:49 <TimClark> Even if what we did worked, and i don't know cause he did not say, there is still tidying up to do
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22:05:10 <TimClark> He said he is going to run a full scan with clamwin, and i'm worried about that :-(
22:05:42 <sar3th> clamwin ist too good afaik
22:05:50 <sar3th> maby try avira
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22:05:52 <TimClark> CW is a file checker, NOT a system Cleaner !
22:05:53 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
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22:06:18 <KevinPorter> Greetings. :)
22:06:26 <TimClark> If he deletes something he does not understand he may crash his system completely
22:07:14 <TimClark> sar3th: Actually CW is very good if used as intended
22:07:39 <TimClark> But is not intended to repair a hosed system :-(
22:07:42 <sar3th> pretty sure it is, i never used it so i can't really tell you
22:09:18 <TimClark> I am the CWP guru so to speak in the fourms so I know it pretty well, but most folks don't understand it is intended to check files before they are run, not clean up damage after the fact
22:10:02 <sar3th> k
22:10:07 <TimClark> I use it in Report Only mode, and then make a choice based on what I see
22:10:49 <sar3th> knoppicillin has a report only mode as well :)
22:11:34 <TimClark> Spyware/Adware infection is more than just files, it's settings as well
22:12:19 <sar3th> use sysinternals for that ;)
22:12:45 <TimClark> And , infact, ClamWin can't clean a file, it can delete or quarantine but that's about it
22:13:18 <sar3th> =(
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22:13:48 <TimClark> That is why it should always be used as a Secondary scanner
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22:14:37 <TimClark> But as a second opinion, or to check a new file, it's great
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22:19:16 <sar3th> well, gotta go now
22:19:21 <sar3th> bye guys
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22:31:19 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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22:44:18 <KevinPorter> Gosh it takes forever to format a 1TB partition.
22:44:37 <TimClark> Poor baby :-(
22:44:51 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> KevinPorter: i think it takes too long for 40Gb
22:45:02 <TimClark> What do you expect, it's ...... A TERABYTE :p
22:45:10 <KevinPorter> TimClark: Who asked you? :P
22:45:21 <TimClark> love you M.O.M
22:45:29 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> XD
22:45:39 * KevinPorter loves his new 1TB external drive. :D
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22:46:02 <TimClark> How can you love it, it's not formated :P
22:46:23 <KevinPorter> It's not his fault.
22:47:27 <KevinPorter> Hmm, I wonder if a quick format would take less than 4 hours...
22:47:36 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> KevinPorter: uh, yah
22:47:45 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> thing is thogh
22:47:55 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> it has to be formatted before you can quick format
22:48:04 <TimClark> correct SrgSiler|Phoodz
22:48:26 <KevinPorter> It was already formatted, but I just repartitioned the drive so I could have half a TB for Ubuntu and the other half for backups.
22:48:32 <ptmb> so you're doomed to wait 4 hours KevinPorter!!!! MHAUHAUHAHUAUAHAU!!!!!!
22:48:35 <ptmb> oh :P
22:48:37 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> XD
22:48:45 <KevinPorter> Heh.
22:51:14 <KevinPorter> I am really that stupid. I could format this thing on Ubuntu in one eighth the time Windows takes.
22:51:39 <ptmb> :P I would use parted magic :D
22:51:53 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> ptmb: almost the same thing
22:52:30 <ptmb> I know, the only difference is that partedmagic already comes with all stuff to format into almost anything, even to format a partittion into a horse :D
22:52:39 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> rofl
22:52:45 * SrgSiler|Phoodz goes to format horse
22:53:12 <ptmb> yeah, horse is much more efficient that ext3 or ntfs :D
22:53:18 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> yes
22:53:25 * SrgSiler|Phoodz loves horseFS
22:53:53 <KevinPorter> It's as existent as WinFS, eh?
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22:54:07 <ptmb> Exactly KevinPorter
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22:54:10 <ptmb> Hi JacobMastel
22:54:16 <ptmb> Hi App_Guy
22:54:17 <JacobMastel> Hello all
22:54:18 <KevinPorter> Hi JacobMastel, App_Guy.
22:54:28 <App_Guy> Hello
22:54:46 <JacobMastel> It's busy in here again :D
22:56:32 <ptmb> Anyway, we were talking about the horseFS, and it is way more efficient than any other filesystem, it doesn't even need electricity to record things into a disk, only horse food :D
22:59:01 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> lol
22:59:02 <JacobMastel> ptmb: The men in white coats have been looking for you for a while havn 't they?
22:59:09 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> roflmao
22:59:25 <ptmb> ... mayyyyyyybe :D
22:59:30 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> my fave is imagineFS
22:59:37 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> runs on hopes and dreams :D
22:59:38 <JacobMastel> /kick ptmp :P
22:59:44 <JacobMastel> No psychos :P
22:59:46 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> JacobMastel: Pail
22:59:50 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> XD
22:59:52 <KevinPorter> At least WinFS makes sense guys. :P
22:59:53 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> Phail*
23:00:29 <App_Guy> *cough* phail *cough*
23:00:30 <JacobMastel> Anyways....TimClark hows that sould backup thing comming? :P
23:00:43 <JacobMastel> *soul
23:00:56 <TimClark> ?
23:01:10 <ptmb> what? that seems nice, will it use brainFS? :D
23:01:18 <TimClark> Oh, you mean SalvationPortable :P
23:01:24 <JacobMastel> Yes! :D
23:01:46 <ptmb> oh, I am preety positive it will use cryogenicFS :D
23:01:55 <ptmb> am I right? :D
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23:01:59 <TimClark> Jesus sued me for copyright infringement :O
23:02:31 <ptmb> that bastard, I can get you the best layers hell has to win :D
23:03:21 <ptmb> (is it layers or lawyers btw? I know, spelling phail :P )
23:03:22 <TimClark> Nope, when HE says stop, you stop, he was nice about it though, just sent me a warning Vision
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23:04:23 <ptmb> lucky you, also, I am trying to make a deal with God to steal your idea with permission, but he isn't answering my phone calls :D
23:04:40 <TimClark> I just saw him hold a Flash drive and wagging his finger at me :P
23:05:18 <ptmb> 0.
23:05:24 <TimClark> ptmb: did you try routing the call thru the Vatican Hot line ?
23:05:29 <ptmb> 0.0
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23:05:56 <ptmb> sorry, some keyb smashing to kill a bug
23:05:57 <ptmb> :P
23:06:04 <ptmb> and no, I'll try that
23:06:27 <ptmb> but people told me it takes a month to be answered
23:06:51 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> Orly?
23:06:59 <TimClark> Did you try a NICE donation first :O
23:07:00 <ptmb> donno, that is what people said to me :D
23:07:46 <ptmb> I'll try your idea TimClark :D maybe I can get salvation portable available before the summer
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23:08:09 <ptmb> also, I just sent an email to god, I hope he answers it
23:08:25 <App_Guy> good luck with that
23:08:26 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> ptmb: you can chat with god now if you want :P
23:08:39 * SrgSiler|Phoodz knows how :D
23:08:40 <ptmb> oh yeah, I remember, the god chat room
23:08:45 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> .g igod
23:08:47 <pabot> SrgSiler|Phoodz: http://www.titane.ca/concordia/dfar251/igod/main.html
23:09:19 <SrgSiler|Phoodz> das da one
23:09:22 <App_Guy> Is this really a support chat
23:09:22 <App_Guy> ????
23:09:42 <TimClark> sorry App_Guy , can we help you ?
23:11:27 <App_Guy> Just wondering if anyone know of someone taking over Assaultcube Portable
23:11:53 <TimClark> can you link to the last post about it please App_Guy
23:12:39 <App_Guy> http://portableapps.com/node/14195#comment-110708
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23:13:06 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM, and thats all. He has no idea what to put here, so.... hi!! Love him or hate him, it's your choice.
23:13:07 <TimClark> ty, checking
23:14:04 <TimClark> it appears not yet App_Guy
23:14:21 <TimClark> I've heard no mention of it here
23:14:25 <App_Guy> thank you
23:16:24 <ptmb> I have to go now, bye
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23:59:57 <pabot> kai_62656 is here. He's developing LMarbles, Lincity-NG, WinHTTrack Website Copier, Gourmet, and NVDA Portable.