IRC Log from 2009-02-16
00:00:11 <MaienM> hello kai_62656
00:00:21 <kai_62656> MaienM: HEllo
00:00:23 <kai_62656> oops
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00:00:36 <kai_62656> MaienM: I was wondering if you would...
00:00:47 <kai_62656> hi daBomb69
00:00:53 <daBomb69> hello
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00:09:44 <kai_62656> If I want to use a new icon for a Portable App, then do I haveto compile the whole program with the new icon?
00:14:35 <TimClark> I think you do kai_62656 , but i'm not 100% sure
00:14:46 <kai_62656> Oh, ok...
00:20:22 <MaienM> kai_62656: so, how does TMW Portable work for you so far? :D
00:20:55 <kai_62656> MaienM: Good, but it takes a long time to update...
00:21:18 <MaienM> it saves all updates by default tho....
00:21:45 <MaienM> and the long time to update is... well, can't do much about it:P
00:21:51 <kai_62656> oh..
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00:29:37 <TimClark> Anybody here religious ?
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00:30:41 <TimClark> Say a quick prayer for Gluxon, ZachT and me, there may be light at the end of the tunnel, we need all the help we can get
00:31:42 <MaienM> I've been sending you "good luck" thoughts for the last.... 15 minutes or so :)
00:32:12 <TimClark> Oh, and PMing any of us right now would NOT be a good idea
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00:33:27 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
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00:34:06 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
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01:03:56 <excid3> TimClark, whats going on?
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01:04:40 <MaienM> he and zach are helping gluxon with a bad malware infection
01:04:52 <excid3> ah :(
01:04:54 <JacobMastel> Sorry for the short appearance earlier. Aunt's house...
01:05:29 <KevinPorter> Hi JacobMastel. :)
01:06:11 <JacobMastel> Hi KevinPorter how's it going?
01:06:18 <JacobMastel> Did John update the Status page?
01:06:57 <KevinPorter> Eh, not too bad. Having a bit of trouble installing Ubuntu on my new external HD.
01:07:36 <JacobMastel> gluxon you have AntiVirus 2009?
01:07:51 <JacobMastel> I think I can help
01:08:34 <JacobMastel> You alive gluxon?
01:08:56 <KevinPorter> RIP gluxon. :(
01:09:15 <TimClark> do not bother gluxon right now please
01:09:36 <gluxon> Sorry
01:09:37 <gluxon> :D
01:09:40 <JacobMastel> TimClark: I've had clients with that virus I think I can fix it...
01:09:54 <gluxon> JacobMastel: No.... but it keeps prompting me to get it.
01:10:02 <gluxon> Zach says it's a scam :P
01:10:03 <TimClark> He is in deep stuff with ZachThibea-u right now
01:10:10 <JacobMastel> K
01:10:20 <TimClark> gluxon: get back to zach please
01:12:53 <TimClark> Currently ZachThibea- is remoted into gluxo- machine, so he needs to take control to talk, which can be problematic
01:13:24 <TimClark> So it would be best not to talk to them or ping their nicks
01:14:00 <MaienM> are you done now TimClark?
01:14:08 <MaienM> with helping them I mean
01:14:20 <TimClark> no, i am still with them MaienM
01:14:31 <MaienM> alright, sorry for the ping then.
01:14:48 <TimClark> np, they are deeper into than i am
01:15:19 <TimClark> we are trying to figure out how to get into the bios on gluxo- machine, any ideas
01:15:30 <JacobMastel> Allt his work for this little virus?
01:15:40 <TimClark> shush JacobMastel
01:15:50 <JacobMastel> Last 2 times I've seen it a boot time scan of Avast (free version) killed it.
01:16:24 <MaienM> there are ways (on some computers) to access the bios remotely, somehow.....
01:16:33 <TimClark> Look, it's not my idea to do it this way, ZachThibea- is in charge
01:17:12 <TimClark> but gluxo- does not know how to access it at boot time, mine is F3
01:17:35 <MaienM> F1, F10 and F12 are common ones
01:17:36 <ZachThibeau> TimClark: it's ok you can say my full name. I need a distraction really
01:18:03 <TimClark> ZachThibeau: see MaienM suggestions, but you can't test till boot time
01:18:11 <JacobMastel> MaienM: or F2 and F8 :-\
01:18:26 <TimClark> so many choices
01:18:27 <ZachThibeau> TimClark: I already suggested it
01:18:29 <MaienM> basically one of the F keys :P
01:18:45 <KevinPorter> MaienM: Nope, I have one that's ESC. :P
01:18:47 <MaienM> you can see it on boot time in 99.999% of the cases
01:18:57 <ZachThibeau> MaienM: go to #revolution and help him. I'm done with this. I'm about to crack
01:19:04 <ZachThibeau> #revolutionforum I mean
01:19:18 <MaienM> well honestly, I suck at virus fighting
01:19:20 <TimClark> no smiles right now MaienM , we have been at this for a while, not fun, you to :(
01:19:33 <MaienM> my typical solution is reinstall..
01:19:33 <TimClark> you too KevinPorter :-(
01:19:45 <TimClark> MaienM: it may come to that
01:19:49 <JacobMastel> gluxon try Avast...
01:19:54 <MaienM> using :P is kinda a automatism for me.
01:20:08 <KevinPorter> MaienM: Nowadays you can never get rid of most viruses.
01:20:13 <TimClark> sorry, i'm very tired
01:20:24 <KevinPorter> They tie themselves to OS files, so it's impossible to remove them without a new installation.
01:20:30 <MaienM> I never even bothered, reinstalled every few months
01:20:38 <ZachThibeau> later guys I really need a break
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01:20:44 <TimClark> The bigist amonnt of time was getting ZachThibea- into his machine
01:20:46 <MaienM> after a few months I got daily BSOD's
01:20:48 <gluxon> JacobMastel: I think the best way to hadle this dumb virus is to scan with ALOT of ant-viruses.
01:20:58 <gluxon> And then delete the files through Linux :P
01:21:04 <gluxon> Anyway, Linky?
01:21:26 <gluxon> ClamWin is doing pretty good but I need to get all the files.
01:21:35 <MaienM> I'd say linux is probably the way to go, if you can find a decent scanner
01:21:56 <MaienM> I wonder if there are any linux programs to scan for windows virusses....
01:26:36 <MaienM> gluxon: you could try this, to see if it works.... http://www.otree.cn/?p=303
01:27:06 <MaienM> it basically boots into a os running only a antivirus scanner, so the virusses will not be running.
01:27:58 <gluxon> Thanks.
01:28:16 <gluxon> Awww...
01:28:20 <gluxon> I have to burn it....
01:28:28 <MaienM> yup...
01:28:33 <gluxon> I don't know If I should give up my other cd... :(
01:28:44 <gluxon> I was going to save the 2 of them for an emergency... :(
01:29:02 <JacobMastel> This is an emergency you dolt :P
01:29:32 <daBomb69> Uh, what exactly is this virus doing that so damaging?
01:29:43 <MaienM> and I've seen this resque disk being mentioned multiple times now, so I guess it must be good ;)
01:36:18 <TimClark> Sorry I had to leave that, too many cooks for me to keep track of who is doing what :(
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01:38:58 <MaienM> don't worry TimClark, I'm sure you did your best :)
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01:40:01 <TimClark> They want to try things that zach has already done, now they are going down a completely new path
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01:43:26 <JacobMastel> Aren't viruses fun?
01:43:27 <JacobMastel> :p
01:44:17 * PatrickPatience slaps TimClark around a bit with a large bass
01:44:21 <PatrickPatience> Cool.
01:44:26 <PatrickPatience> New script... just testing.
01:44:28 <PatrickPatience> Other fish?
01:44:29 <JacobMastel> Hi PatrickPatience and wow that was rude :P
01:44:32 <TimClark> For how it may affect your support, just so you know, don't think it's a virus, but your avast may still help
01:44:35 * PatrickPatience slaps JacobMastel around a bit with a large bass
01:44:43 <PatrickPatience> Ahh... only bass?
01:44:56 <JacobMastel> PatrickPatience: does this work when we say your name?
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01:45:03 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now
01:45:14 <PatrickPatience> JacobMastel: No.
01:45:59 <PatrickPatience> TimClark: F-word? http://portableapps.com/node/18100
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01:46:39 <TimClark> PatrickPatience: oh yes, twice
01:46:50 <PatrickPatience> Wow.
01:46:54 <PatrickPatience> For the record, that's Pidgin.
01:47:01 <PatrickPatience> Also for the record, that's a common issue.
01:47:03 <TimClark> I thought my edit was very polite btw
01:47:09 <PatrickPatience> Also for the record, it's his fault.
01:47:28 <TimClark> I was not harsh, I just explained
01:47:47 <JacobMastel> lmao read this http://portableapps.com/node/18100#comment-111508
01:47:53 <JacobMastel> A fellow avast user :D
01:49:21 <PatrickPatience> http://portableapps.com/node/18100#comment-111513
01:49:29 <PatrickPatience> Please... ANYTHING can be cracked.
01:50:13 <JacobMastel> PatrickPatience: I just got to that :P
01:50:14 <JacobMastel> http://portableapps.com/node/18100#comment-111523
01:50:29 * DaveDixonII laughs at all 1062 windows. XD
01:51:11 <PatrickPatience> It's happened to me like 4 times.
01:52:04 <MaienM|Sleep> never happened to me :D
01:52:05 <JacobMastel> Yeah I've had it happen
01:52:13 <JacobMastel> Although it wasn't MSN it was yahoo
01:52:18 <MaienM|Sleep> and my password isn't really secure or stuff....
01:53:19 <daBomb69> Are email passwords actuall security... or just the illusion of security...
01:54:58 <JacobMastel> Dinner :D
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01:55:49 <PatrickPatience> daBomb69: Yes, yes they are. :-P
01:56:03 <PatrickPatience> But nothing is entirely secure.
01:56:05 <PatrickPatience> Ever. :-P
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01:56:18 <daBomb69> Exactly my point
02:02:06 <TimClark> JacobMastel-Away: says he's at dinner , but he is really watching Desperate Housewives I think :P
02:03:33 <gluxon> ...
02:03:44 <gluxon> (8:59:12 PM) gluxon|gone: Done
02:03:44 <gluxon> (8:59:16 PM) You are now known as gluxon
02:03:44 <gluxon> (8:59:18 PM) gluxon: I mean back :P
02:03:50 <gluxon> ...
02:04:12 <gluxon> Watching Desperate HouseWives? Who do you think I am? Kai? (no offense) :P
02:04:38 <TimClark> As I said gluxon , i have had to withdraw at this point :-(
02:04:44 <gluxon> Anyway, I'll download those files you mentioned.
02:04:51 <gluxon> Now that I know a workaround :P
02:05:19 <gluxon> Wait... I wonder if I can use regedit if I reaname it to regedit.cmd... worth a shot :P
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02:07:25 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
02:11:08 <TimClark> KevinPorter: gluxon is still looking for help if you are willing
02:11:55 <KevinPorter> I'll be there.
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02:24:06 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
02:24:29 <gluxon> What's the name of the channel?
02:24:33 <gluxon> ...
02:24:37 <gluxon> Somethingforum....
02:25:02 <TimClark> #revolutionforum
02:25:39 <gluxon> K.
02:26:48 <TimClark> I am likely to get cut off in in about 10 minutes
02:27:09 <TimClark> And boy do I have a splinting headache
02:28:25 <KevinPorter> :(
02:29:12 <TimClark> KevinPorter: Staring at the monitor all that time helping gluxo-n was murder
02:29:42 <TimClark> It was hours, really
02:30:09 <KevinPorter> Yeah, I know how it is. I get those kind of headaches far too often.
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02:33:44 <TimClark> I need new glasses on top of that
02:36:36 <ZachThibeau> yeah same here
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02:41:55 <JacobMastel> TimClark: Not funny you know I hate that show :P
02:44:34 <TimClark> sorry, i thought you would laugh :-(
02:44:42 <JacobMastel> I did
02:44:44 <JacobMastel> Hence the :P
02:44:54 <JacobMastel> No problem
02:44:56 <JacobMastel> All is good :D
02:45:10 <TimClark> And you know what a fun lovin guy I am :P
02:45:17 <JacobMastel> well...:P
02:45:32 <KevinPorter> Heh.
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02:49:30 <TimClark> I will be having Sushi in about 15 minutes :D
02:50:56 <JacobMastel> Eww raw fish :P
02:51:57 <TimClark> It really isn't that bad, you should give it a chance if the opertunity comes up
02:52:06 <JacobMastel> I don't really like fish
02:52:31 <JacobMastel> I'm pretty picky when it comes to sea food
02:52:36 <TimClark> It tastes nothing like cooked fish, just so you know
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02:52:39 <JacobMastel> But that's about it.
02:52:57 <JacobMastel> Alright Tim I'll try it sometime, but if I die I'm sueing you
02:53:02 <JacobMastel> :P
02:53:22 <TimClark> PatrickPatience: and KevinPorter I am dooped and going very soon, the floor is yours
02:53:38 <PatrickPatience> Kay.
02:53:45 <KevinPorter> TimClark: Hope your headache gets better. :)
02:53:46 <JacobMastel> HIDE!
02:53:54 <TimClark> "deopped", but dooped looks funny too
02:53:56 <JacobMastel> I second that one
02:54:07 <JacobMastel> No TimClark deopified remember? :P
02:54:21 <TimClark> JacobMastel: did you get back to gluxon with the avast thing
02:54:27 <JacobMastel> He's not in
02:54:37 <JacobMastel> He's offline :(
02:54:47 <TimClark> I meant before he left
02:55:22 <JacobMastel> No I got back after he left
02:56:12 <ZachThibeau> some bit of good news :) the forums seem clean of spam today :D
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03:12:49 <alpha1beta> hey guys
03:14:27 <ZachThibeau> howdy alpha1beta
03:14:38 <alpha1beta> hey zach, what's new?
03:14:39 <ZachThibeau> you missed out on Kevin pinging out :D
03:14:48 <alpha1beta> oh goody
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03:15:11 <ZachThibeau> 252 seconds XD
03:15:12 <alpha1beta> lmao wow....
03:15:19 <ZachThibeau> I know :D
03:15:25 <alpha1beta> EPIC FAIL
03:15:35 <ZachThibeau> lol
03:16:24 <DaveDixonII> ZachThibeau: Wrong server. :P
03:16:31 <alpha1beta> ok, well I'm just gonna lurk play some games, need to shoot something...now where's ChrisMorgan
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03:16:43 <ZachThibeau> DaveDixonII: I know but still it was epic
03:16:48 <DaveDixonII> :D LOL
03:17:13 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Everyone!
03:17:18 <alpha1beta> hey Oni!
03:17:44 <Oni-Neoxes> Whats up :3
03:18:04 <ZachThibeau> not much
03:18:46 <Oni-Neoxes> i recently got back with skulltag ;D
03:18:49 * Oni-Neoxes sniffs
03:18:58 <Oni-Neoxes> that fun it is ;D
03:19:58 <ZachThibeau> lol
03:20:01 <Oni-Neoxes> i wonder why this didn't go through" http://portableapps.com/node/15812
03:20:17 <Oni-Neoxes> I make wads all the time
03:20:24 <Oni-Neoxes> even in school XP
03:23:28 <Oni-Neoxes> for some reason I feel lonely now D:
03:23:46 <ZachThibeau> muhahahahahahaha
03:23:47 <ZachThibeau> :P
03:24:00 <Oni-Neoxes> o-o
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03:24:11 <ZachThibeau> I vant to suck your blood
03:24:15 <Oni-Neoxes> I hope she mades lotsa speghetti :D
03:24:22 <ZachThibeau> lol
03:24:54 * Oni-Neoxes pokes Zach and aslpodes
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03:25:19 * ZachThibeau bites Oni-Neoxes and turns him into undead where we continue in -ot
03:25:29 <Oni-Neoxes> rawr
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03:27:45 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
03:28:05 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
03:28:20 <JohnTHaller> hola
03:28:44 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello JohnTHaller
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03:37:53 <ZachThibeau> night everyone
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03:38:16 <JacobMastel> Hello again JohnTHaller :D
03:38:29 <JohnTHaller> hi
03:39:38 <JacobMastel> Will PeaZip be out tonight?
03:40:01 <JacobMastel> It just needs signing.
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03:41:11 <JohnTHaller> i said i would get to it today or tomorrow
03:41:34 <JacobMastel> sorry..anxious...
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03:49:12 <daBomb69> Hello
03:56:41 <JacobMastel> Hi daBomb69
03:56:49 <JacobMastel> sorry for the delayed reaction :P
03:57:53 <daBomb69> :)
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04:00:08 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
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04:07:41 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
04:08:01 <ChrisMorgan> Hey all :-)
04:08:20 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I got a response to the cutting comment... and he's talking mostly sense now :-)
04:08:43 <ChrisMorgan> Will you be putting in some of the Updater code into the Platform installer to select apps to download?
04:09:08 <JohnTHaller> what cutting comment?
04:09:49 <ChrisMorgan> that one -http://portableapps.com/node/18082#comment-111476
04:10:41 * JohnTHaller is busy coding
04:11:09 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
04:11:20 * ChrisMorgan seems to spend more time responding to comments on the forums...
04:11:24 <ChrisMorgan> palogbot: uri?
04:11:24 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-02-16#T04-11-24
04:11:34 <PatrickPatience> JohnTHaller: Those quotes look beautiful. Fantastic.
04:11:49 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: the eventual plan is to make it allow additional apps to be downloaded and added, yeah
04:12:11 <ChrisMorgan> Yup, I thought so :-)
04:12:22 <ChrisMorgan> Will the Updater be being rewritten in a more sensible language?
04:12:41 <ChrisMorgan> ... even something like AutoHotkey could do better in many respects ...
04:12:55 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. download block sizes have to be hardcoded...
04:13:20 <JohnTHaller> the updater may eventually be delphi (part of the platform to add and update apps). but the PA.c installer may provide an option to install apps as you install later
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04:13:37 <ChrisMorgan> Yay! I was right on both counts :-)
04:14:13 <PatrickPatience> He... the suite is quite, easy, and handy.
04:14:16 <PatrickPatience> *quick
04:15:17 <ChrisMorgan> *quiet
04:15:17 <ChrisMorgan> :P
04:16:15 <PatrickPatience> Why are they all complaining about the suite? So lame.
04:16:24 <PatrickPatience> The suite is great for so many users.
04:18:08 <Bensawsome> ?
04:18:44 <ChrisMorgan> Yes, it's really the best option I think for "quick" distribution
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04:18:47 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
04:19:00 <PatrickPatience> Bensawsome: Have I not mentioned about how pointless it is to post a question mark?
04:19:06 <PatrickPatience> I have NO IDEA what you're confused about
04:19:33 <Bensawsome> no you havent :/ and i was wondering who complaining about the suite >_>
04:19:51 <PatrickPatience> Well, I have, perhaps not to you. :-P
04:19:56 <PatrickPatience> That thread Chris linked.
04:19:57 <Bensawsome> :P
04:20:18 <Bensawsome> i wasnt on then >_> just restarted my client
04:20:29 <Bensawsome> and im actually gonnna do it again brb
04:20:32 <ChrisMorgan> That djanuary guy yesterday sounds interesting from reading the logs...
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04:20:37 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
04:20:39 <Bensawsome> ohaithar KevinPorter
04:20:53 <ChrisMorgan> And solanus... HTA for a desktop thing... :-(
04:20:59 * ChrisMorgan collapses in a limp heap
04:21:08 <PatrickPatience> ChrisMorgan: URI?
04:22:14 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: solanus starting at http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/?t=2009-02-15#T20-36-33
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04:22:51 <PatrickPatience> Thanks.
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04:23:09 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
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04:29:15 * JohnTHaller|code is packaging new GIMP Portable and updating the PA.c Installer to let it pre-select the "Additional Languages" option in installers when you select a language other than English
04:29:30 <ChrisMorgan> Yay!
04:29:55 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller|code: the help menu will soon have links to each app's help, or a context menu on the item, or something like that, right?
04:30:01 <ChrisMorgan> *in the platform, that is
04:30:33 <JohnTHaller|code> yes. right-click, help. in 2.0 not 1.2 which i'm finishing up
04:30:57 <ChrisMorgan> yup, got that, guessed it'd be that way :-)
04:31:06 <ChrisMorgan> thanks, I'll add that to my response...
04:31:46 <JohnTHaller|code> And got it.... additional languages will not be auto-selected when you pick something other than english
04:31:51 <JohnTHaller|code> not = now
04:31:57 <ChrisMorgan> Great :-)
04:32:18 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller|code: also an item for go to homepage?
04:33:30 <ChrisMorgan> Based on appinfo.ini [Details]:Homepage
04:36:39 <PatrickPatience> JohnTHaller|code: I didn't see one, but is there a section in there for setting the app language in the settings file depending on what language they chose in the installer?
04:36:44 <PatrickPatience> Or is it cool if we add it ourselves?
04:38:12 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: other languages have been installed is added to the INI file, but you'd need to do a ConfigRead or an ReadINIStr or something like that to get the launcher language, not sure about the language chosen by the installer though.
04:39:28 <PatrickPatience> Yeah, I know that much. But it doesn't have an option to insert some code to set the language in say Data\settings\AppName.ini after copying it from DefaultData.
04:39:33 <PatrickPatience> ... or does it? :-P
04:39:42 <ChrisMorgan> Checking...
04:40:08 <JohnTHaller|code> RELEASE: PortableApps.com Installer 0.11.2: http://portableapps.com/node/14939
04:40:27 * ChrisMorgan downloads for PAFChecker
04:41:19 <JohnTHaller|code> You need to set the language in your app youself using custom code if you want to. Every single app stores languages differently. We will not be doing this for any of the main apps as they will all auto-select language from the platform on launch. So, if you're using the platform, the installer and app will automatically be in your language.
04:45:20 <JohnTHaller|code> PatrickPatience: glad you like the quotes
04:45:48 * ChrisMorgan likes 'em too :D
04:46:23 <PatrickPatience> JohnTHaller|code: So you don't want me to add any code, or is it cool if I throw in a few lines to do it?
04:46:37 <ChrisMorgan> Some apps use an environment variable (many originally-GNU-apps)... other apps use a stored setting (e.g. BPBible)
04:46:48 <ChrisMorgan> %LANG% is popular
04:47:35 <JohnTHaller|code> PatrickPatience: what code?
04:50:13 <PatrickPatience> To set the language.
04:51:07 <JohnTHaller|code> No. We won't be doing it in the actual installer. Each app dev can do it if they want. There is no universal solution for it. But it isn't a requirement as any user launching from the menu gets the right language regardless.
04:53:28 <PatrickPatience> Yeah, that's what I meant.... if there's ay objection to me adding the code.
04:55:37 <PatrickPatience> JohnTHaller|code: I think we should set up a survey at some point addressing some common issues and questions regarding menu usage, who uses it, who doesn't. If people care about out-of-date apps by a few point versions.
04:55:58 <Scriptdaemon> To the latter, I do.
04:56:02 <Scriptdaemon> Survey done.
04:56:04 <Scriptdaemon> :)
04:56:07 <PatrickPatience> Heh.
04:57:29 * ChrisMorgan doesn't use the platform at all except when doing support with people
04:57:44 * ChrisMorgan uses Command Prompt Portable and doskey macros - which are really cool :D
04:57:50 <Scriptdaemon> I'm using it right now.
04:57:52 <Scriptdaemon> XChat.
04:57:55 <Scriptdaemon> Well, YChat.
04:57:57 <Scriptdaemon> =P
04:58:40 <JohnTHaller|code> PatrickPatience: it'd have to be added as custom code for every single app (minimum 100 lines per app for most of the big ones) and then maintained. not worth it
04:59:07 <JohnTHaller|code> if someone is tech enough not to use the menu, they're fine setting the lang themself
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04:59:51 <ChrisMorgan> A Windows shell, LiveStep - http://portableapps.com/node/18104 - why does it not sound credible as a portable app?
05:00:15 <Scriptdaemon> "shell"
05:00:15 * JohnTHaller is gonna finish GIMP in the AM... too tired to get all howevere many langs setup
05:00:37 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Read this site: http://www.litestep.net/
05:00:48 <PatrickPatience> JohnTHaller: Good point.
05:00:57 <ChrisMorgan> *LiteStep
05:01:14 <JohnTHaller> besides... many apps like GIMP and Pidgin auto-select the lang from the OS anyway... so it already covers most users
05:01:16 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: you think it works?
05:01:23 <PatrickPatience> ChrisMorgan: It does.
05:01:26 <PatrickPatience> It's awesome.
05:01:29 <JohnTHaller> it's been around for a while. i'm not a fan though
05:01:33 <ChrisMorgan> :o
05:01:39 <Scriptdaemon> I'm waiting for Cairo.
05:01:39 <ChrisMorgan> So it isn't a real shell?
05:01:46 <ChrisMorgan> Just an overlay or something like that?
05:01:54 <PatrickPatience> No... it's a shell AFAIK.
05:01:57 <ChrisMorgan> If it was a real shell it'd need restart and admin wouldn't it?
05:02:11 <Scriptdaemon> http://www.cairoshell.com/
05:02:11 <PatrickPatience> Needs a restart for one.
05:02:14 <PatrickPatience> Not sure on the admin.
05:02:31 <PatrickPatience> Heh, hasn't Cairo Shell been at it for like a year now?
05:02:32 <ChrisMorgan> I s'pose BlackBox or whatever it was worked, so...
05:03:21 <Scriptdaemon> E17 on Linux has been at it for quite a few years. What's your point?
05:04:26 <PatrickPatience> No point.
05:04:39 <PatrickPatience> Just a long time to wait. :-P
05:05:04 <Scriptdaemon> They just started the first private alpha, or are close to it.
05:05:10 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... the chap's using Google Code to host it and like so many others is putting binaries in SVN... sigh...
05:05:25 <Scriptdaemon> lol
05:05:57 <ChrisMorgan> /and/ he's not using the proper structure with trunk, branches and tags - http://code.google.com/p/litestepportable/source/browse/#svn
05:06:19 <Scriptdaemon> Blech.
05:06:43 <ChrisMorgan> Very much so.
05:06:56 <JohnTHaller> alright... bedtime
05:07:12 <Scriptdaemon> Night
05:07:26 <ChrisMorgan> Goodnight JohnTHaller :-)
05:07:44 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... in 12 hours I should be at Kolkata airport...
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05:14:42 <ChrisMorgan> Hey dzjepp
05:14:53 <ChrisMorgan> Have you been here before? I don't recognise you
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05:15:23 <pabot> Bensawesome is Bensawsome when his internet went out and he rejoins
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05:31:24 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
05:33:50 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... for some reason my Mibbit connection died... ah well :-)
05:36:46 <KevinPorter> Oh, Mibbit, how we love you...
05:37:27 <Bensawsome> use a real client then :P
05:37:33 <Bensawsome> mibbit sucks :P
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05:37:51 <pabot> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
05:38:01 <Bensawsome> ohai upnPAD ^_^
05:39:00 <upnPAD> eyo
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05:39:12 <pabot> ChrisMorgan42 is ChrisMorgan. ChrisMorgan is the Bible guy :D
05:39:20 <upnPAD> do you have python installed on the webspace you gave me?
05:39:25 <ChrisMorgan42> It hasn't died yet...
05:39:32 <ChrisMorgan42> Turns out it was the router.
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05:40:02 <KevinPorter> Welcome back Bensawsome. :P
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05:55:28 <Bensawsome> lol ty KevinPorter :P
05:57:17 <KevinPorter> That's enough IRC for tonight.
05:57:19 <KevinPorter> G'night all.
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06:00:32 <upnPAD> Bensawsome, :?
06:00:35 <upnPAD> <upnPAD> do you have python installed on the webspace you gave me?
06:02:18 <Bensawsome> ?
06:02:23 <Bensawsome> me?
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06:03:00 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
06:03:16 <upnPAD> yeah Bensawsome >_>
06:03:53 <Bensawsome> hmmm lemme check
06:06:03 <Bensawsome> upnPAD: pm
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06:14:24 <ChrisMorgan> Missed pa_5120 :-(
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06:26:03 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
06:26:18 <Bensawsome> nite guys....
06:26:32 <ChrisMorgan> Hey TimClark
06:26:35 <ChrisMorgan> bye Bensawsome
06:26:41 <TimClark> good night Bensawsome
06:26:45 <TimClark> hello ChrisMorgan
06:26:48 <Bensawsome> ^_^ cya guys
06:26:53 <ChrisMorgan> How're things going for you TimClark?
06:27:06 <TimClark> Fine thank you, and you?
06:27:58 <ChrisMorgan> Fine I think, in 12 hours the plane should have just taken off a few minutes ago to Singapore :-)
06:28:33 <TimClark> Singapore, sounds exciting
06:28:53 <TimClark> I wish you a "fruitful" trip
06:28:56 <ChrisMorgan> Only for a couple of hours on the way back to Melbourne
06:29:02 <ChrisMorgan> So only in the airport
06:29:06 <TimClark> ahh
06:47:54 <TimClark> Any ClamWinPortable users up and about right now ?
06:50:41 <ChrisMorgan> Not I, said the ChrisMorgan
06:51:15 <TimClark> Me thinks they are all asleep but us
06:51:50 <ChrisMorgan> Could be.
06:51:53 <TimClark> Oh, well, CW main.cvd is updating again, instructions in the forum
06:52:14 <ChrisMorgan> Yar, saw that.
06:54:55 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: if you are going to edit you posts you should note the changes so folks know what is different then the original
06:55:39 <TimClark> I'm pretty sure that's the basic post you made earlier, but it shows in the tracker as new
06:56:13 <ChrisMorgan> About what?
06:56:27 <ChrisMorgan> "Suite apps seriously out of date"?
06:56:42 <ChrisMorgan> All I did was put in a title, if I change the content at all then I note it as "Edit: "
06:56:48 <TimClark> yes, the one you just updated http://portableapps.com/node/18082#comment-111549
06:57:05 <ChrisMorgan> And I only just posted it about a minute before I updated it...
06:57:35 <TimClark> Oh, that is a new post? Never mind
06:57:49 <TimClark> I thought it was your one from earlier
06:58:04 <ChrisMorgan> no, it wasn't that time.
06:58:13 <ChrisMorgan> He'd responded to it so I couldn't modify it anyway...
06:58:44 <TimClark> oh, right, op, not mod, I forgot
06:58:51 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... you know there's something wrong with a Drupal module if when logged in as the super-user you get access denied for its options page...
06:58:57 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I'm a cop :-)
06:58:58 <ChrisMorgan> .def cops
06:58:59 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: cops are channel operators; #portableapps cops are ChrisMorgan, Gizmokid2005, JohnTHaller, KevinPorter, markomlm, PatrickPatience, rmccue, SteveLamerton and TimClark (in alphabetical order)
06:59:16 <ChrisMorgan> And nick highlighting shows that two are on...
06:59:21 <ChrisMorgan> The third is |Away
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07:00:07 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: explain "01:01 ChrisMorgan> Hmm... you know there's something wrong with a Drupal module i..."{
07:00:58 <TimClark> Oh, and ChrisMorgan I do not like the term "cops" for what I think are obvious reasons
07:01:03 <ChrisMorgan> #portableapps-ot stuff probably :P
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07:01:11 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
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07:01:36 <ChrisMorgan|away> TimClark: that's what they're called everywhere...
07:01:55 <TimClark> I will agree to disagree
07:02:02 <ChrisMorgan|away> Got to have a 10 rupee haircut while I'm still here, by order of mum and dad :-(
07:02:08 <TimClark> i've never heard anyone but you use it
07:02:09 <ChrisMorgan|away> back ~half hourish?
07:03:31 <TimClark> Hello markomlm
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07:06:43 <TimClark> Welcome rmccue
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07:07:53 <TimClark> Hello again rmccue
07:08:19 * rmccue mumbles something about Pidgin being buggy
07:08:44 <TimClark> Sorry to hear that rmccue , do you think your stable
07:10:05 <TimClark> Patrick is way away, ChristM should be back in a half hour rmccue
07:10:25 <rmccue> It's just because I have like 200 contacts to sync on my MSN account, because I ticked the wrong account.
07:10:51 <TimClark> So you are not really here either I take it ?
07:12:40 <rmccue> Yeah, i am.
07:12:47 <rmccue> Just got a few screens open.
07:15:25 <TimClark> Would you willing to take the floor ?
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07:16:03 <rmccue> Quite.
07:16:08 <TimClark> Would you willing to take the behave ? :P
07:16:09 <rmccue> LET'S DANCE!
07:16:31 <TimClark> Would you willing to behave ? :P *
07:16:42 <rmccue> No. :P
07:16:59 <TimClark> was afraid you would say that
07:17:19 <TimClark> Did you enjoy Human last night, I did
07:18:41 <rmccue> Quite.
07:19:08 * TimClark sees himself dancing with rmccue in a disco with that song [now playing]
07:19:52 <TimClark> And don't make a snotty remark, guys can dance this kind of stuff together
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07:20:30 <rmccue> I'm listening to this at the moment:
07:20:33 <rmccue> .o youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJrkeMQhHc
07:20:38 <pabot> <!--: spam
07:20:41 <rmccue> ...
07:20:46 <TimClark> me too , o/
07:21:18 <TimClark> Do you dance in real life rmccue ?
07:21:55 <rmccue> Not often :P
07:22:16 * TimClark would not laugh at rmccue on the dance floor, not matter how funny he looked :P
07:23:15 * TimClark would like to go to a disco in NYC and dance with all the Mods and JTH :D
07:23:57 <TimClark> Whos that DJ that JTH likes so much, I have his music but am spacing on his name ?
07:24:19 <rmccue> See the footer of PA.com.
07:24:25 <rmccue> DJ Cary, I believe his name is.
07:24:35 <TimClark> nope
07:24:41 <rmccue> I think DJ is his name though.
07:24:47 <TimClark> nope
07:25:30 <TimClark> Found it Armin VanBuuren :D
07:25:50 <rmccue> Ah, him.
07:26:20 <TimClark> All of us dancing to ArminVanBuuren in NYC on New Years Eve :D
07:26:35 <TimClark> and laughing at patrick :P
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07:27:21 <TimClark> loading Armin_Van_Buuren_ONLY_DVD.flv
07:27:27 <rmccue> Hey mrose, how can we help you today?
07:27:31 <TimClark> Hello mrose, can we help ;you
07:27:55 <mrose> hi just looking around thanks
07:28:09 <mrose> if i need something will let you know
07:28:14 <TimClark> Enjoy
07:28:16 <mrose> thanks!!
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07:28:36 <TimClark> rmccue: music convo to -ot ?
07:28:43 <TimClark> nm
07:29:10 <TimClark> I think he is a new guy in the forum, his name looks familer from today or yesterday
07:29:24 <rmccue> Nah.
07:29:32 <TimClark> Yah
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07:30:01 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM, and thats all. He has no idea what to put here, so.... hi!! Love him or hate him, it's your choice.
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07:30:30 <TimClark> wb ChrisMorgan and MaienM
07:31:27 <TimClark> rmccue: http://portableapps.com/user/106402 mark rose
07:31:40 <MaienM> good morning TimClark :)
07:31:41 <ChrisMorgan> :o you're all crazy! :P
07:31:41 <rmccue> Ah.
07:31:53 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: explain
07:32:04 <ChrisMorgan> mark rose, yeah, he was coming in for help about making launchers
07:32:09 <ChrisMorgan> dancing et al
07:32:15 <TimClark> if you read the logs, it's ok for guys to dance
07:32:25 <ChrisMorgan> I read what happened after I left
07:32:30 <ChrisMorgan> btw, why voiced?
07:32:33 <TimClark> and I said the mods, not the ops, so there :P
07:32:48 <TimClark> Op On Call when the other opped ops are /away or not Really here, if your here here I would love to give you the floor
07:33:13 <ChrisMorgan> I'm here.
07:33:25 <ChrisMorgan> Though really, I don't understand why we need an OOC
07:33:32 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: rmccue you have the floor
07:33:39 <rmccue> LET'S DANCE!
07:33:45 <ChrisMorgan> For me, my /paaway macro for mibbit unops me as well.
07:33:53 <ChrisMorgan> To show that I'm not an op at the time.
07:33:58 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: when we have 5 ops and only one is really here you will understand
07:33:59 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: kick :P
07:34:31 <rmccue> I did as I was told.
07:34:41 <TimClark> now rmccue that was not nice
07:34:50 <TimClark> you should ban him as well :P
07:34:52 <rmccue> I did as I was told.
07:35:00 <rmccue> No one asked me. :P
07:35:31 <TimClark> ops wrong command
07:36:06 <TimClark> rmccue: he has not come back
07:36:08 <rmccue> Ops wrong command? :P
07:36:18 <rmccue> Ich weiß daß.
07:36:29 <TimClark> i meant to devoice, not de opp
07:37:12 <TimClark> rmccue: he has not come back
07:37:27 <TimClark> do you think he was offended
07:37:38 <TimClark> do you care :P
07:37:40 <rmccue> I think he's away :P
07:38:08 <TimClark> well, yeah, since you sent him away
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07:40:02 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
07:40:13 <TimClark> wb ChrisMorgan
07:40:21 <ChrisMorgan> I was only away from #portableapps, waiting to see what'd happen :P
07:40:41 <TimClark> Anyway ChisMorgen most ops do not deop when they are not really here, so I like to make it clear if I am they ONLY active op, that I am in fact here and avaiable. I do not do it when the other ops are really here
07:40:43 <ChrisMorgan> TimClark: tut tut, that attitude is reprehensible! ("you should ban him as well :P") :P
07:41:13 <ChrisMorgan> No, I wasn't offended, I'd thought about what I'd typed as soon as I said it... and rmccue obeyed :-)
07:41:27 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: you know that I know that you read the logs, don't you :D
07:42:09 <MaienM> well, time for school
07:42:32 <TimClark> bye MaienM :D
07:42:33 <ChrisMorgan> I know that you know that I read the logs. You know that I know that you know that I read the logs.
07:42:36 <MaienM> shouldn't be late again, I'd be in a lot of trouble....
07:42:41 <ChrisMorgan> Bye MaienM ... escaping in time ...
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07:43:45 <TimClark> Anyway ChrisMorgan it often happens that there are 3 or 4 ops in the channel and I am the only live one
07:44:33 <ChrisMorgan> But when has an op ever been needed? Once we had a spammer in here, ok, that's one time. A couple of times we've needed to threaten but not kick. OK, that's two times.
07:44:43 <ChrisMorgan> Really though, it's rare that we use us.
07:44:57 <TimClark> Well fortunately you get to do things you way and i get to do mine :P
07:45:23 <TimClark> I agree with you though, the ops should deop when they are not really here
07:45:40 <ChrisMorgan> I don't really like it when an op leaves and voices a couple of ordinary people, as voice as *absolutely* *useless* without an op there, and it gives incorrect information about status.
07:46:12 <TimClark> that has not happened in a very long time ChrisMorgan
07:46:38 <ChrisMorgan> It has actually, only a couple of weeks ago
07:46:48 <TimClark> and i do disagree with your view stated above, btw
07:46:49 <ChrisMorgan> Actually that was when a voiced person left.
07:46:59 <ChrisMorgan> Who was it... nm
07:47:05 <TimClark> correct, but that is not what you said
07:47:24 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I corrected myself when I remembered that it wasn't an op
07:47:36 <TimClark> I know who it was, and it was pointed out to him that it was best he not do it, it's an op choice
07:47:39 <ChrisMorgan> Voice is actually entirely useless except when the channel has +m for mute
07:47:54 <TimClark> i disagree, but that's ok
07:47:56 <ChrisMorgan> ok, thanks for that.
07:48:00 <ChrisMorgan> I didn't get round to it...
07:48:07 <ChrisMorgan> Why do you disagree?
07:48:24 <ChrisMorgan> Voice only shows status and allows you to talk when the channel is silenced.
07:48:29 <ChrisMorgan> can be useful at times.
07:48:40 <TimClark> The voices should be able to take a lead in the channel if no one else is here
07:49:08 <ChrisMorgan> Could be, but that's still only a perception of power, with no power behind it at all...
07:49:10 <ChrisMorgan> that's all
07:49:22 <TimClark> but the other users should realize that they have earn a place, a place which should cause them to give good example
07:49:44 <TimClark> and it's no power at all, except respect
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07:50:46 <TimClark> If a voice, like zach, asked something to be moved to -ot, it should be respected
07:51:33 <TimClark> very few of the voices set bad examples
07:51:44 * ChrisMorgan is for some reason remembering when TimClark was a newbie to IRC... and that time when [name censored] took the nick TimCIark with a capital i instead of the L... that got messy! We did actually mute the channel that time.
07:53:03 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I think Zach does a good job. Nevertheless, it wouldn't actually matter at all whether he had voice or not... but it gives the backing of authority which is good, even if ordinary users don't realise it doesn't mean much in terms of actually restraining them ;-)
07:53:13 <TimClark> that is rare, usually the channel is not muted, and voices have nothing but a standing in the community, which should bring some respect, and the emot was not needed
07:53:16 <rmccue> I DIGRESS.
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07:53:34 <TimCIark> lol
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07:53:51 <rmccue> Which is why you should all have monospaced fonts.
07:54:00 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: :o
07:54:05 <TimClark> I think rmccue would like us to change topics
07:54:06 <ChrisMorgan> Bad boy!
07:54:12 <ChrisMorgan> Possibly...
07:54:27 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... lunch will be nice ;-)
07:54:40 <TimClark> and i respect that, not because he's founder, but because he's rmccue
07:54:51 <rmccue> No, I said, *I* digress, not you.
07:55:40 <TimClark> oh, fine, I respect that becasue you might get silly and kick me at the drop of a hat :P
07:55:50 <TimClark> keep that hat on your head ChrisMorgan :P
07:55:57 <ChrisMorgan> :P
07:56:12 <rmccue> l wouldn't do that.
07:56:20 <TimClark> ty
07:56:23 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: you did to me :P
07:56:34 * ChrisMorgan 's hat drops off
07:56:40 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: I didn't say "I", I said "l" :D
07:56:41 <TimClark> He knows I don't like playing with op ChrisMorgan
07:56:52 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: ...
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07:57:00 <pabot> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
07:57:07 <ChrisMorgan> Hola upnPAD
07:57:19 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: why exactly do you want Chris Morgan Portable?
07:57:27 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: me thinks rmccue is doing something with fonts that we can't see
07:57:31 <ChrisMorgan> Isn't it bad enough having to survive as it is?
07:57:44 <ChrisMorgan> TimClark: no, just capital i and lowercase L...
07:57:52 <ChrisMorgan> Which in the Arial font family are identical.
07:58:06 <TimClark> that's kind of what I meant
07:58:54 <rmccue> Eww, Arial.
07:59:08 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: humph
07:59:42 <ChrisMorgan> Who reckons PortableApps.com should use a WYSIWYG/WYSIWYM editor?
07:59:58 <rmccue> -1
08:00:01 <rmccue> -1
08:00:01 <rmccue> -1
08:00:02 <rmccue> -1
08:00:04 <upnPAD> er
08:00:07 <upnPAD> what for
08:00:13 <rmccue> -9^9^9^9^9^9
08:00:19 <upnPAD> i hurr'd
08:00:28 <rmccue> Err, rather, -(9^9^9^9^9^9)
08:00:34 <ChrisMorgan> I'm just curious to see what people's opinions are, I don't think it's practical in terms of bandwidth, if nothing else.
08:00:43 <TimClark> ok, i'm outta here
08:00:52 <upnPAD> is there a difference rmccue O.o
08:01:25 <rmccue> upnPAD: e.g. -2^2 = -2 * -2 = 4
08:01:37 <upnPAD> yeah...
08:01:39 <upnPAD> but
08:02:02 <upnPAD> -9 * 9 * 9 = 729
08:02:05 <upnPAD> i mean
08:02:06 <upnPAD> -729
08:02:08 <upnPAD> so negative
08:02:15 <upnPAD> and you only had 1 negative in the first one
08:02:16 <upnPAD> soooooooo
08:02:41 <rmccue> Yes, but -9^9 = -9 * -9 = 81
08:02:56 <rmccue> .calc -9^9^9^9^9^9
08:03:11 <upnPAD> oh
08:03:29 <upnPAD> er
08:03:30 <upnPAD> isnt
08:03:51 <upnPAD> -9^9 = -9*-9*-9*-9*-9*-9*-9*-9*-9
08:04:19 <rmccue> Err, yes, rather.
08:04:36 <upnPAD> so uh
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08:04:39 <upnPAD> its still negative
08:04:41 <upnPAD> GOD.
08:08:48 <pabot> -9^9^9^9^9^9 = undef
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08:09:11 <rmccue|food> lol.
08:13:31 <PatrickPatience> ChrisMorgan: Nay.
08:13:44 <PatrickPatience> > (3:03:27 AM) ChrisMorgan: I'm just curious to see what people's opinions are, I don't think it's practical in terms of bandwidth, if nothing else.
08:13:47 <PatrickPatience> Exactly the reason.
08:13:50 <PatrickPatience> Too slow.
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08:26:50 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: don't talk like that...
08:27:19 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickPatience: I think not speed but a symbol rather like a capital S with a vertical line through it...
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08:43:57 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD/upnPAD|2 trouble again...
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08:46:28 <PatrickPatience> ChrisMorgan: I think both.
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09:31:31 <ChrisMorgan> Hey TaffinFoxcroft
09:31:41 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi ChrisMorgan
09:32:10 <ChrisMorgan> Suddenly I remember before I leave here tonight for Australia that here is a machine which has never had gVim installed on it, I can try and fix up the OLE issue possibly here!
09:32:45 * TaffinFoxcroft thinks ChrisMorgan is making excuses to stay away from Australia :P
09:33:39 <ChrisMorgan> The plane doesn't leave until tonight... not really an excuse :P
09:36:48 <TaffinFoxcroft> but it is tonight in aus :D
09:36:56 <TaffinFoxcroft> ChrisMorgan is time traveling?
09:37:41 <ChrisMorgan> :P
09:47:40 <TaffinFoxcroft> brb, patching uxtheme on vista
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10:05:07 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD/upnPAD|2: once again... :P
10:05:23 <ChrisMorgan> Well goodbye everyone, see you in Australia (or maybe sooner) :-)
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10:18:11 <upnPAD|2> hey rmccue
10:18:21 <rmccue> HOLA
10:18:24 <upnPAD|2> dya know if i can make Firefox Portable my default browser?
10:18:33 <upnPAD|2> atm its IE7 :x
10:18:35 <rmccue> Yes, I made the tool to do it.
10:18:39 <rmccue> DefaultMyFFP.
10:19:00 <upnPAD|2> =O
10:19:05 <upnPAD|2> .g DefaultMyFFP
10:19:07 <pabot> upnPAD|2: http://portableapps.com/node/7693
10:19:07 <rmccue> It's unsupported though.
10:19:15 <upnPAD|2> assume it works
10:20:45 <rmccue> It should.
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10:44:08 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM, and thats all. He has no idea what to put here, so.... hi!! Love him or hate him, it's your choice.
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11:43:21 <rmccue> pabot!
11:43:22 <pabot> rmccue!
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11:44:54 <ZachThibeau> morning all
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13:19:12 <ZachThibeau> morning onestoploser
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14:08:01 <MaienM|School> mornin ZachThibeau, WastePotato
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14:08:17 <ZachThibeau> yay :D
14:08:20 <ZachThibeau> people
14:08:28 <MaienM> where? :O
14:08:34 <ZachThibeau> you :D
14:08:41 <MaienM> oh, right
14:08:44 <ZachThibeau> lol
14:10:19 * ZachThibeau is watching Transformers :D
14:10:29 * MaienM is not
14:10:48 <ZachThibeau> lol
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14:13:49 <pabot> Rewire is the ultimate slacker
14:15:26 <ZachThibeau> howdy Rewire
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14:17:18 <ZachThibeau> I guess I scared him :/
14:17:49 <MaienM> yup :(
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14:26:01 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
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14:37:04 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
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15:01:44 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
15:02:25 <ZachThibeau> howdy KevinPorter, Havvy, purple
15:02:32 <KevinPorter> Hi ZachThibeau. :)
15:03:08 <purple> yo
15:05:24 <ZachThibeau> so I'm guessing no bugs for VisualBoyAdvance-MPortable yet?
15:05:57 <ZachThibeau> come one people :P I left some obvious ones so that people can say ohh look a bug
15:06:17 <MaienM> ZachThibeau: make one for linux and I'll test it :P
15:06:25 <ZachThibeau> mainly the readme file :P
15:06:31 <ZachThibeau> MaienM: compile your self ;)
15:06:33 <ZachThibeau> it's not hard
15:06:40 <MaienM> where is the source?
15:06:46 <KevinPorter> Someone's a little lazy eh ZachThibeau. :P
15:06:50 <ZachThibeau> in the sf project
15:06:55 <MaienM> ah
15:07:04 <ZachThibeau> under svn
15:07:15 <MaienM> the download page is a mess :P
15:07:40 <ZachThibeau> if you have subversion installed use this command svn co https://vbam.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vbam vbam
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15:37:40 <Havvy> Hello all;
15:39:20 <solanus> So I put up my first app - written from scratch - in the beta forums. DeskSkin Portable, its a simple skinnable overlay that hides the desktop, and contains built-in shortcuts to key folders.
15:41:08 <ZachThibeau> I noticed
15:41:30 <ZachThibeau> VisualBoyAdvance-M Dev Test 2 released :) http://portableapps.com/node/18085
15:42:01 * Bensawsome high fives ZachThibeau :D
15:44:18 <ZachThibeau> lol
15:44:22 <Bensawsome> ^_^
15:44:28 <Bensawsome> wazzup guyses
15:46:19 <onestoploser> Halloo Bensawsome
15:46:27 <onestoploser> Amarok 2 = :(
15:46:42 <onestoploser> Disappointment FTL
15:47:12 <ZachThibeau> solanus: which language did you write the app in? C/C++ delphi?
15:48:20 <ZachThibeau> VisualBasic?
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15:49:22 <solanus> LOL - I'm not much of a programmer! It's actually an HTA
15:49:25 <onestoploser> I'm about to try out DeskSkin
15:49:31 * Bensawsome is learning visual basic >_>
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15:50:16 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
15:51:15 <ZachThibeau> ahh ok
15:51:31 <ZachThibeau> HTA for making help files
15:51:37 <ZachThibeau> interesting use for it
15:51:39 <onestoploser> lol
15:51:45 <onestoploser> It's pretty cool.
15:51:51 <onestoploser> Has a lot of potential.
15:52:16 <onestoploser> How do you switch between DeskSkin and the host desktop?
15:52:19 <PatrickPatience> What's HTA?
15:52:29 <ZachThibeau> PatrickPatience: HTA makes the windows help files
15:52:33 <solanus> As an HTA (HTML App) you can do almost anything that HTML can. It can use vbscripting or javascript.
15:52:51 <ZachThibeau> it's actually pretty neat use of it :)
15:52:52 <onestoploser> .g hta
15:52:53 <pabot> onestoploser: http://www.hta.org/
15:53:03 <onestoploser> .wik hta
15:53:05 <pabot> "This page has been deleted." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hta
15:53:13 <ZachThibeau> lol
15:53:17 <ZachThibeau> both links fail :P
15:53:21 <onestoploser> lmao
15:53:22 <ZachThibeau> .g windows hta
15:53:23 <pabot> ZachThibeau: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms536496(VS.85).aspx
15:53:23 <PatrickPatience> .g hta chm creation
15:53:25 <pabot> PatrickPatience: http://www.vclcomponents.com/HTML/Software___Editors/HtaEdit-info.html
15:53:40 <solanus> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/resources/qanda/oct05/hey1031.mspx
15:54:12 <PatrickPatience> Oh, it's a different format?
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15:55:11 <ZachThibeau> Peacout XD
15:55:11 <onestoploser> Peacout?
15:55:16 <onestoploser> hahahahahaha
15:55:19 <ZachThibeau> wow grammar fail XD
15:56:12 <solanus> It's a little diff from chms. It's not compiled, so you can see the source code by opening it in notepad++. I made an NSIS launcher to start it.
15:57:04 <ZachThibeau> cool :)
15:57:15 <ZachThibeau> but it's the same princaple though
15:57:20 <ZachThibeau> **principle
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15:57:48 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
15:58:02 <PatrickPatience> Whoa.
15:58:18 <ZachThibeau> grammar fail :P * PatrickPatience has quit ("Peacout!")
15:58:18 <PatrickPatience> It all makes sense now.
15:58:31 <PatrickPatience> Not really.
15:58:36 <PatrickPatience> 'Twas the intention.
15:58:45 <ZachThibeau> suuuuuurrrrrreee ;)
15:58:47 <PatrickPatience> Otherwise I would have written Peace Out.
15:58:49 <PatrickPatience> Haha.
15:58:52 <onestoploser> lol
15:59:03 <PatrickPatience> BRB.
15:59:03 <solanus> HTA uses the mshta.exe to run, but it behaves like old IE in some ways.
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15:59:53 <solanus> Anyhoo, I hope its useful to someone besides me! I gotta go - schlater.
16:00:17 <onestoploser> later man
16:00:26 <ZachThibeau> solanus: just some bugs. you have some unwanted files in your app ;)
16:00:29 <ZachThibeau> thumbs.db
16:00:33 <ZachThibeau> :P
16:00:35 <ZachThibeau> later dude
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16:01:28 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
16:01:41 <PatrickPatience> Perhaps I will stop disconnecting on logout now.
16:01:43 <ZachThibeau> HAH I new I hated facebook for something and this confirms it http://consumerist.com/5150175/facebooks-new-terms-of-service-we-can-do-anything-we-want-with-your-content-forever
16:01:54 <solanus> Yeah, I tried to get em all, but I missed one, and figured I'd clean it out after b testing...
16:04:08 <Havvy> Heh, good thing my account got 'suspended' there for some unknown reason. :P
16:05:00 <ZachThibeau> thats it I'm removing my facewbook account
16:05:04 <ZachThibeau> I never used it anyways
16:05:43 <onestoploser> Stupid Facebook...
16:08:43 <Havvy> I made an account last summer to try out a lame game that can only be played from Facebook. The site is slow. The TOS is a POS. I gave no info as to who I was that I wouldn't give freely, so...
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16:10:43 <onestoploser> They don't have any info I wouldn't give freely either, but I don't want them holding the rights to pictures of my family...
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16:16:24 <pabot> sar3th is working on LyX portable
16:16:35 <sar3th> hi @all
16:17:04 <onestoploser> Hallo
16:17:06 <ZachThibeau> howyd sar3th
16:17:45 <onestoploser> howyd
16:17:47 <onestoploser> XD
16:18:01 <ZachThibeau> oops
16:18:02 <ZachThibeau> :P
16:18:14 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau: wow... damn facebook.... i need to tell my brother now :/
16:18:46 <ZachThibeau> thank excid3 for bringing it up to me
16:18:54 * Bensawsome thanks excid3
16:18:58 <Bensawsome> ^_^
16:19:10 * onestoploser coffee
16:19:14 <onestoploser> brb
16:22:03 <ZachThibeau> hmmmmmmm coffee goood
16:22:15 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau, hilarious: http://oblaarggag.ytmnd.com/
16:22:31 <Havvy> Bleh! ytmnd fails.
16:22:37 <Bensawsome> Havvy: DO IT
16:22:41 <Bensawsome> look at it :P
16:22:52 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: I introduced you to oblaarggag ;)
16:22:57 <sar3th> Bensawsome: lol
16:23:02 <ZachThibeau> it was a long time ago
16:23:02 <Bensawsome> ya ^_^
16:23:03 <Bensawsome> lol
16:23:08 <Bensawsome> i remember nao
16:23:24 <ZachThibeau> lol
16:23:39 <Bensawsome> i bookmarked it 2 ^_^
16:24:51 <ZachThibeau> lol
16:25:04 <onestoploser> oblaarggag is blocked here. :(
16:25:06 <onestoploser> lol
16:25:16 * sar3th is listening to End Of You - Over And Out "Mimesis"
16:25:21 <sar3th> heya it works =)
16:25:31 <onestoploser> .o lastfm onestoploser
16:25:35 <pabot> Last played Buckaroo by Meat Puppets - http://www.last.fm/music/Meat+Puppets/_/Buckaroo
16:26:18 <Bensawsome> lol ZachThibeau and sar3th: http://mircosoftistooslow.ytmnd.com/
16:26:32 <Havvy> Meh, I'm listening to music through Pandora.
16:26:43 <sar3th> Bensawsome, do you know the epic manevers?
16:26:52 <Bensawsome> ?! no i do not! :D
16:26:59 <ZachThibeau> nice XD
16:27:06 <onestoploser> Right now I'm listening through VLC.
16:27:25 <sar3th> http://epicxp.ytmnd.com/
16:27:56 <ZachThibeau> yay http://sg1juggling.ytmnd.com/
16:28:03 <ZachThibeau> Stargate SG1
16:28:06 <ZachThibeau> FTW
16:28:36 <Bensawsome> lol nice sar3th
16:28:43 <Havvy> .twitter Havvy
16:28:44 <pabot> .twitter is deprecated. Use .o twitter instead.
16:28:47 <sar3th> original: http://epicgeordi.ytmnd.com/
16:28:50 <Havvy> .o twitter Havvy
16:28:53 <pabot> <@havvy> Webcomics I've read start to current: Sinfest (though I'm agnostic); XKCD; Dominic Deegan (which is what I just did) (http://twitter.com/havvy/statuses/1215632983)
16:29:09 <excid3> lol your welcome about the facebook crap :-\
16:31:22 <Bensawsome> sar3th: im playing that one full blast on my sp[eakers ^_^
16:31:27 <Bensawsome> sounds epic :D
16:31:48 <sar3th> (^_^)
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16:32:16 <o[{^_^}]o> sar3th: o[{^_^}]o %_%
16:32:21 <o[{^_^}]o> err ^_^
16:32:27 <sar3th> \m/
16:32:31 <o[{^_^}]o> lol
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16:32:34 <ZachThibeau> wow trippy :/ http://sweetraveparty.ytmnd.com/
16:33:04 <sar3th> xD
16:33:16 <sar3th> ytmnd <3
16:33:19 <Bensawsome> lol now i wanna dance :P
16:33:25 <Bensawsome> ytmnd <333333333333333333333333333333333
16:33:32 <sar3th> lol internet
16:33:39 <Bensawsome> internet FTW
16:34:00 <ZachThibeau> wow XD http://unleashthefurybambi.ytmnd.com/
16:34:04 <Havvy> Internet FTL
16:34:06 <sar3th> http://steamsteamlol.ytmnd.com/
16:34:50 <sar3th> xD @bambi
16:35:14 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau: NICE
16:35:14 <sar3th> http://broadbandsteamlol.ytmnd.com/
16:35:20 <sar3th> http://lolsilentfilm.ytmnd.com/
16:35:24 <sar3th> http://lolhmstitanic.ytmnd.com/
16:35:27 <sar3th> XD
16:36:53 <Bensawsome> ...
16:36:59 <Bensawsome> maybe we should do this somewherre else...
16:37:07 <sar3th> xD
16:37:21 <Bensawsome> sar3th and ZachThibeau: ##ytmnd
16:37:28 <Havvy> You know, just in case somebody comes in here wanting support.
16:37:32 <sar3th> double #?
16:37:39 <Bensawsome> sar3th: means unoffical channel
16:37:49 <Bensawsome> plus #ytmnd was already registered :/
16:37:58 <sar3th> :o
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16:45:23 <pabot> Simeon is a Developer at PortableApps.com
16:46:19 <ZachThibeau> howdy Simeon
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16:46:46 <ZachThibeau> howdy mghany
16:46:56 <Simeon> Hi Zach
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16:47:09 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
16:47:10 <mghany> hey Zach...i just made an account so im checkin it out
16:47:12 <Simeon> How is it going? Havent had any time to hang around here lately...
16:47:22 <JohnTHaller> hi
16:47:31 <Simeon> Hi John!!! :)
16:47:39 <sar3th> hi JohnTHaller Simeon and mghany !
16:48:15 <onestoploser> Hallo JohnTHaller
16:48:23 <excid3> hey JohnTHaller
16:50:16 <mghany> so anyone willing 2 help me make an object portable launcher?
16:50:44 <onestoploser> Object Portable?
16:50:55 <mghany> sry...objectdock
16:51:13 <sar3th> i'd prefer rocketdock ;)
16:51:41 <mghany> I used it but I like that OB completely replaces the tskbar
16:51:44 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
16:51:45 <onestoploser> I think Rocketdock was in the Beta Testing forum some time ago...
16:51:53 <JohnTHaller> neither will probably be around too much longer now that Apple has patented the dock
16:52:02 <sar3th> o0
16:52:21 <JohnTHaller> hi za
16:52:23 <JohnTHaller> hi ZachThibeau
16:53:10 <mghany> this is what I hav so far..its the basic structure...but I have no idea what to do with the reg entries and .nsi's and .nsh's
16:53:10 <mghany> http://www.box.net/shared/06tohoudto
16:53:22 <mghany> please check it out
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16:54:41 <sar3th> you will need to create a launcher for objectdock which writes your registry-entries and looks after documents and settings and appdata
16:54:44 <sar3th> hi OliverK!
16:54:51 <OliverK> hi sar3th!
16:55:11 <mghany> I know that part...i just don't know how...check out this post on pA..hold on
16:55:47 <mghany> http://portableapps.com/node/17829
16:56:06 <mghany> it explains what I know..and what I don't ko
16:56:09 <mghany> *know
16:57:07 <mghany> and is there any way I can change my PA.com username...i now prefer to not use my current username for certain reasons..mainly privacy
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17:05:50 <Simeon> no. You'd have to ask John T. Haller or maybe an other moderator if he could change it.
17:10:10 <Bensawsome> only john can change usernames so...
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17:57:46 <ZachThibeau> so no one found anybugs with the app itself?
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17:58:33 <mib_lqum3wdl> hi
17:59:27 <mib_lqum3wdl> is there any legal versions of portable opera?
17:59:38 <OliverK> yeah
18:00:02 <OliverK> ZachThibeau: other then it went to 100% and the computer started acting up, but I didn't text very throughly
18:00:17 <mib_lqum3wdl> i didn't find it in the PA.com
18:00:31 <onestoploser> Opera@USB
18:00:38 <onestoploser> Works like a charm.
18:00:44 <onestoploser> I use it regularly.
18:00:53 <OliverK> not its not, http://www.portablefreeware.com/download.php?dd=507
18:00:54 <sar3th> mib_lqum3wdl: http://www.opera-usb.com/
18:00:57 <ZachThibeau> mib_lqum3wdl: we only deal with Open-Source programs Opera isn't it. your best bet is to look at Opera's website and the should have a link to a portable version
18:02:10 <mib_lqum3wdl> Ooh, Thanks guys
18:02:40 <mib_lqum3wdl> got another question if you don't mind
18:02:47 <sar3th> sure, go ahead
18:03:00 <ZachThibeau> fire away
18:03:03 <onestoploser> http://www.opera-usb.com/
18:03:29 <onestoploser> It isn't supported by PortableApps.com, but it is a =n authorized portable version.
18:03:33 <onestoploser> *an
18:03:41 <ZachThibeau> onestoploser: you're a little slow ;)
18:03:46 <sar3th> =P
18:03:47 <mib_lqum3wdl> my nephew doesn't know anything about linux and i'd like to treat him from my windows addiction, what linux distro do you recommend?
18:03:50 <onestoploser> I see that, :(
18:03:51 <onestoploser> lol
18:03:53 <mib_lqum3wdl> hope this isn't offtopic
18:04:02 <Havvy> Ubuntu, and I think it is;
18:04:03 <sar3th> ubuntu or opensuse
18:04:08 <onestoploser> I use Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex
18:04:13 <ZachThibeau> mib_lqum3wdl: I suggest Ubuntu linux ;) very user friendly and best of all Debian based
18:04:22 <onestoploser> Suse is nice too though.
18:05:14 * sar3th agrees with onestoploser
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18:05:28 <onestoploser> lmao
18:05:51 <ZachThibeau> I much prefer debian based distrobutions
18:05:58 <ZachThibeau> much easier to use imho
18:06:14 <Simeon> I like and use ubuntu too :)
18:06:16 <OliverK> puppy linux for the win!
18:06:37 <OliverK> actaully, I hate puppy. Fedora or something with KDE 4 for the win
18:06:54 <ZachThibeau> Fedora isn't too bad but bad enough imho
18:07:16 <onestoploser> I don't like Fedora, but Ubuntu spoils people.
18:07:29 <ZachThibeau> onestoploser: pure debian :)
18:07:33 <onestoploser> Command line need is very minimal for most people in Ubuntu.
18:07:42 <ZachThibeau> onestoploser: only at first
18:07:50 <OliverK> command line is minimal period :p
18:08:02 <ZachThibeau> I run my desktop with ubuntu but all command line :)
18:08:31 <onestoploser> I'm still learning a lot of command line stuff.
18:08:36 <onestoploser> But I get by.
18:08:41 <ZachThibeau> took me a year
18:08:51 <ZachThibeau> to learn the majority
18:08:58 <ZachThibeau> I'm still learning though
18:09:10 <sar3th> same for me
18:09:12 <onestoploser> Just changed my forum av.
18:09:17 <ZachThibeau> cool
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18:15:36 <ZachThibeau> howdy Seth_Hikaru
18:18:46 <Mir> i hate poobuntu
18:18:57 <Mir> i will go knoppix instead
18:19:01 <Mir> or blueflopps
18:19:05 <Mir> or SUSE
18:19:09 <Mir> or puppy
18:19:14 <Mir> or DSL
18:19:24 <Mir> or...... MINIX
18:19:30 <OliverK> isn't bluefloops the floppy distro?
18:19:35 <Mir> yes
18:19:38 <Mir> ^o^
18:20:28 <onestoploser> lol
18:21:16 <Simeon> bye
18:21:31 <Mir> 2 floppies and a full GUI (dont expect compiz yo) a irc clien and a text based web browser
18:21:35 <Mir> all on a floppy
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18:21:42 <Mir> *o*
18:21:52 <Mir> omg i am seeing stars
18:23:49 * OliverK thinks he'd be lucky to have a gui at all
18:24:02 <OliverK> Mir: what stars?
18:24:29 * onestoploser says These ones and punches OliverK in the eye.
18:24:34 <onestoploser> XD
18:24:45 <OliverK> the boot is mighter then the fist
18:24:50 <onestoploser> lol
18:25:03 <OliverK> i can figure out which keys to type, even if I can't see :p
18:25:06 <Mir> yup and my steel toed doc works quite well thank you
18:25:18 <ZachThibeau> the ops in -ot is mighter than both boot and fist :P
18:25:19 <OliverK> yeah
18:25:34 <onestoploser> XD
18:25:44 <onestoploser> Steel toed Dr. Martens?
18:26:34 <onestoploser> My favorite shoes are Docs. They're beat but I'm afraid to get rid of them because I don't think I can get another pair.
18:27:27 <OliverK> hehe
18:28:03 <OliverK> i can understand that, I have trouble finding shoes (I'm not sure why). BUt the pair I had where trashed. So I got a new pair of the same thing.
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18:28:52 <onestoploser> I just looked on the Dr. Marten's website.
18:29:05 <onestoploser> Nothing even similar now. :(
18:29:32 <OliverK|Chowing> dang
18:30:34 <Mir> mine are industrial
18:30:44 <Mir> they have lasted me 3 years
18:30:55 <Mir> seeing as they cost around 200 new
18:31:01 <Mir> i'd expect as much
18:31:12 <Mir> but i got mine for 90 ^_^
18:31:15 <onestoploser> My shoes were $120 about five years ago.
18:31:48 * OliverK|Chowing wishes there were open-source shoes
18:31:55 <OliverK|Chowing> onestoploser: you need to find a cobbler
18:32:38 <onestoploser> The soles are in fine condition. They just look beat up because they're old. I'm wearing them now. lol
18:33:49 <OliverK|Chowing> heh, then shome shoe shine :D
18:33:59 <OliverK|Chowing> but, you really should find some cobbler
18:34:04 <OliverK|Chowing> and share :p
18:34:20 <onestoploser> lol
18:36:24 <ZachThibeau> later guys
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18:42:52 <Mir> the reason mine look as new now is because i actualy put shoe wax and polish on them
18:43:15 <Mir> even tho they are "GREASE" style and will never shine they look good
18:43:50 <onestoploser> These shoes have been through a lot. Numerous shows. Mosh pits. Rain, snow, sleet & shine. And I still wear them to work in the office.
18:45:52 <Mir> mine have been back east, in a logging camp, on a oil platform, climed down a sea cliff with them, kicked some boxes around in a archival storage facility and use them at work and school
18:46:32 <Mir> they have never seen snow or sleet because this is southern California
18:46:56 <Mir> such things dont happen at 100ft above sea level when you are on the coast
18:47:17 <Mir> the snow level currently is at 4689FT
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19:08:11 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
19:08:16 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
19:08:22 <OliverK|Chowing> stfu
19:08:46 <SteveLamerton> Talking to me OliverK|Chowing
19:08:53 <OliverK|Chowing> yes/no
19:08:58 <OliverK|Chowing> hello SteveLamerton
19:09:03 <OliverK|Chowing> how is your day going?
19:09:18 <SteveLamerton> Hello OliverK|Chowing, and not too bad thanks :) You?
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19:09:32 <OliverK> could be better, could be worse, hence the stfu
19:09:43 <OliverK> I'm having trouble with self control today, I think
19:09:49 <OliverK> so, sorry about that
19:10:01 <SteveLamerton> OliverK: No worries, we all have days like that :)
19:10:21 <OliverK> yeah, well, it really was uncalled for, so sorry
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19:11:00 <SteveLamerton> Ok, apology accepted :)
19:11:27 <OliverK> howdy Kyle25
19:11:36 <Kyle25> sup
19:11:38 <OliverK> need anything today?
19:11:40 <Kyle25> how do you pin a app to the launch pad?
19:11:46 <OliverK> ?
19:12:03 <Kyle25> like firefox
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19:12:26 <OliverK> just install it to the portableapps folder, the refresh the menu
19:12:53 <Kyle25> ok maybe thats what i did wrong let me try it then get back to you
19:13:10 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
19:15:07 <Kyle25> its downloading now, is there a newer version of the launchpad out
19:15:23 <OliverK> which version do you currently have?
19:15:34 <Kyle25> 1.0 i think
19:15:52 <OliverK> 1.1 is the latest available. http://portableapps.com/download
19:16:00 <OliverK> you can just download the menu and install
19:16:07 <Kyle25> 1.1 sorry
19:16:12 <Kyle25> o
19:16:29 <OliverK> 'sal right
19:17:24 <Kyle25> huh
19:17:53 <OliverK> its alright
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19:21:04 <Kyle25> ok
19:21:10 <ZachThibeau> howdy y'all
19:23:04 <Kyle25> done thanks for the help
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19:24:10 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton, TimClark, ZachThibeau :)
19:24:52 <SteveLamerton> Hello MaienM, TimClark, ZachThibeau
19:25:14 <ZachThibeau> :)
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19:27:33 <Seth_Hikaru> Hey just out of curiosity how much overhead does an NSIS Portable app have?
19:28:22 <OliverK> ?
19:28:27 <TimClark> hello SteveLamerton and MaienM , I am preoccupied at the moement , sorry
19:28:37 <SteveLamerton> Seth_Hikaru: The launcher?
19:28:40 <OliverK> you mean the RAM that it uses?
19:28:41 <Seth_Hikaru> Yes.
19:29:06 <OliverK> notepad++portable.exe 5,040K
19:29:13 <Seth_Hikaru> Actually let me think about that for a second
19:29:30 <OliverK> spicebirdportable.exe, 5,236k
19:30:43 <Seth_Hikaru> Computational overhead of the launcher.
19:31:01 <OliverK> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/pZuX8M0yzYE/article.pl
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19:31:31 <SteveLamerton> Seth_Hikaru: Very little, usually when the app is running the laucher does nothing, and sometimes is even closed when the app is launched
19:31:52 <Seth_Hikaru> So do you have an estimate of the percentage maybe?
19:32:53 <sar3th> why are the files so big actually? they basically do nothing..
19:33:03 <sar3th> i mean
19:33:09 <Seth_Hikaru> I'm pretty sure it has to be higher that VMWares ThinApp Launcher, which is less that 1%.
19:33:12 <SteveLamerton> <1% I would think, it doesnt do any active work, it simply waits for the app to finish and then cleans up
19:33:27 <sar3th> almost nothing ;)
19:33:58 <SteveLamerton> I am not really an expert though, I am not a launcher writer
19:34:07 <Seth_Hikaru> No VMWares ThinApp would be almost nothing, I would expect NSIS to have a slightly higher overhead.
19:34:44 <sar3th> how come anyway? i mean the only thing which is really big is the jpg
19:34:50 <SteveLamerton> Seth_Hikaru: Well I am afraid I dont have hard numbers, you might want to post on the forum
19:35:06 <OliverK> i think that the thinap would be larger
19:35:39 <sar3th> i don't like vmware anyways
19:35:43 <Seth_Hikaru> I'm just curious but I'm pretty sure VMWare ThinApp has done a better job then the NSIS is.
19:35:58 <Seth_Hikaru> Pfft NSIS sucks compared to VMWare.
19:36:00 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: we should get started on Lapwing once again :P
19:36:01 <OliverK> opensource FTW
19:36:15 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: Love to, fancy employing me full time to do it ;)
19:36:16 <Seth_Hikaru> Yes I beleive in opensource.
19:36:35 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: do you have the old source files?
19:36:37 <OliverK> Seth_Hikaru: take it else where. The reletive virtues and failings of VMware has been discussed ad nosium in the forums
19:36:58 <OliverK> mostly, the price tag with the large number of zeros on the end
19:37:06 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: Possibly somewhere *shrugs*
19:37:29 <sar3th> does thinstall give you the same abilities as NSIS does?
19:37:35 <Seth_Hikaru> But VMWare ThinApp is better in means of amount of files because you only have one file with everything packaged in.
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19:38:15 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: ouch :P well I'm thinking of maybe (possibly from scratch) restarting lapwing :)
19:38:18 <Seth_Hikaru> Is SandBoxie opensource?
19:38:23 <sar3th> Seth_Hikaru: we could do that with nsis as well
19:38:28 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: To -dev
19:38:34 <sar3th> sandboxie is shareware, right?
19:38:59 <Seth_Hikaru> I'm not sure I think its free.
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19:40:44 <Seth_Hikaru> Oh it is Shareware.
19:41:14 * OliverK votes for intelliluanch
19:41:17 <Seth_Hikaru> I think that we should try making NSIS package everything into one file.
19:41:44 <Seth_Hikaru> Except help files and the like.
19:41:45 <sar3th> ehy would you want to do that?
19:41:50 <Seth_Hikaru> Because.
19:42:02 <OliverK> http://portableapps.com/node/17681
19:42:02 <Seth_Hikaru> Well.
19:42:19 <Seth_Hikaru> How would you be able to add plugins to applications after you did that?
19:42:19 <sar3th> because you want to waste time extracting to some temp location and recompiling the installer afterwards?
19:42:22 <OliverK> but, honestly, its not flexiable enough for day to day developement
19:43:48 <Seth_Hikaru> Why doesn't NSIS package the .NSI files inside of the installer so you can get them if you UniExtract it?
19:44:27 <SteveLamerton> Seth_Hikaru: They should be in Other\Source
19:44:59 <Seth_Hikaru> I don't think it does.
19:45:29 <Seth_Hikaru> Becuase I always get the .iss script when I extract from an Inno.
19:45:43 <Seth_Hikaru> I can't remember about NSIS though
19:45:55 <sar3th> you cannot get the NSI file from a compilled installer
19:46:07 <Seth_Hikaru> Why not?
19:46:14 <sar3th> fortunately all portableapps have their NSI in orher\source, as oli said
19:46:39 <OliverK> becuase its messy, when it even comes out at all
19:46:50 <sar3th> because it's technically impossible, says so in the FAQ
19:47:01 <sar3th> of NSIS
19:47:41 <sar3th> Seth_Hikaru: http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Can_I_decompile_an_existing_installer
19:48:45 <Seth_Hikaru> OliverK: You screwed up IntelliLaunch, the .ini is not in the data folder.
19:49:11 <Seth_Hikaru> It's in the App\DefualtData folder.
19:49:17 <OliverK> Seth_Hikaru: i did not screw up intellilaunch. RTFM
19:49:33 <OliverK> you have to CONFIGURE IT
19:49:35 <sar3th> lol Seth_Hikaru, start it and it tells you to copy over the default data!
19:52:13 <Seth_Hikaru> I did.
19:52:18 <Seth_Hikaru> Still doesn't work
19:52:33 <sar3th> you have to edit the ini. open help.html and start reading ;P
19:52:45 <OliverK> its well written, if I do say so myself :D
19:52:47 <Seth_Hikaru> I did unless I did it wrong.
19:53:05 <Seth_Hikaru> Oh I see I put something in accidently
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19:57:30 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
19:57:48 <KevinPorter> Long time no see dragonmage. :)
19:58:20 <dragonmage> didn't have internet for a while, we've been doing pretty bad
19:58:44 <KevinPorter> :(
19:58:45 <dragonmage> good to be back though
19:59:57 <dragonmage> was still working on some skinning stuff
20:00:52 <dragonmage> slowed down some now, since I'm working again
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20:08:16 <dragonmage> been creating a completely portable Sputnik UI, skinning apps tp fit into the top and sidebars
20:09:47 <dragonmage> http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02162009151237zy5.png
20:10:12 <dragonmage> not finished yet , but showing a few apps
20:11:02 <sar3th> is this a windows toalconversion?
20:11:42 <dragonmage> I guess so
20:12:16 <dragonmage> using bblean for the window skinning and rainmeter to create the bars
20:13:01 <dragonmage> then skinning what apps I can to fit in the bars
20:14:56 <dragonmage> I'm really pleased with the skin for stickies
20:17:06 <dragonmage> they stay visible but rolled up into the sidebar
20:17:19 <sar3th> that's nice
20:17:42 <dragonmage> thanks
20:19:23 <OliverK> holy shoot, wow
20:19:25 <dragonmage> Once I get everything worked out and get full permission from the original artist of Sputnik, I plan to realease a package for people to load onto their portable device to do this
20:19:28 <OliverK> that's neat
20:20:10 <onestoploser> Yeah. It definitely looks cool. :)
20:20:22 <dragonmage> permission shouldn't be a problem, he's been giving me permission to release Sputnik stuff for years
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20:21:27 <dragonmage> lots more stuff to do with rainmeter though
20:22:14 <dragonmage> anyone think of any skinnable portable apps I could make a Sputnik skin for?
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20:23:30 <OliverK> pnotes is one
20:23:36 <OliverK> bu i think you already did that one
20:23:46 <dragonmage> already got it ;)
20:23:53 <dragonmage> check the screenshot
20:24:19 <dragonmage> not sure if that's the final version yet though
20:27:36 <dragonmage> couldn't figure out a way to work pnotes intoa bar though...
20:28:41 <OliverK> pnotes's doesn't do a roll up :( except for the "skinless"
20:29:23 <dragonmage> yeah
20:30:13 <dragonmage> oh, and I did a mod of the original Sputnik skin for Coolplayer to make it's shade mode fit in the topbar...
20:30:29 <dragonmage> http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02162009153326ie2.png
20:31:57 <OliverK> nice
20:33:10 * Bensawsome takes a looky
20:33:29 <dragonmage> thanks, I've been doing ports of Sputnik for a long time
20:35:19 <Bensawsome> wow dragonmage thats awsome
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20:36:49 <OliverK> link?
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20:47:27 <dragonmage> above
20:47:41 <sar3th> "the enemy of my enemy is my lion"
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20:48:21 <onestoploser> sar3th: lol
20:48:57 <sar3th> qc reference ftw
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20:50:44 <OliverK> no, for sputnik
20:51:00 <dragonmage> ahh
20:51:07 <onestoploser> .g sputnik
20:51:09 <pabot> onestoploser: http://history.nasa.gov/sputnik/
20:51:12 <onestoploser> lol
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20:51:55 <dragonmage> Sputnik started as a windowblinds skin
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20:52:38 <dragonmage> It has since grown into one of the largest skin suites in existence
20:58:03 <dragonmage> http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?search=Sputnik
20:58:25 <dragonmage> there's a sampling of some sputnik skins
21:05:38 <OliverK> neat
21:08:22 <dragonmage> I've done skins for non-portableapps also
21:08:48 <onestoploser> Can you skin VLC Portable for me?
21:08:51 <onestoploser> :D
21:08:59 <onestoploser> That would be sweet.
21:09:06 <dragonmage> I'm focusing only on portable skinnables at the moment though
21:09:29 <onestoploser> VLC is portable. ;)
21:09:32 <dragonmage> is VLC Portable skinnable?
21:09:41 <onestoploser> I'm pretty sure it is.
21:11:32 * OliverK hates typing erros
21:11:40 <dragonmage> ok, I'll work on that when I get some time
21:11:59 <onestoploser> Nice
21:12:03 <onestoploser> OliverK: XD
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21:13:15 <dragonmage> I was working on a Miro skin before they released 2.0
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21:15:10 <pabot> SergentSiler is awsome and is the most.... Hey, wait, OMG!!!! PIE!!!! <3
21:15:59 <dragonmage> I want to learn to skin the mozilla apps
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21:23:56 <Havvy> dragonmage: You might like irc://irc.mozilla.org then.
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21:25:09 <sar3th> well, gotta go now...see ya
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21:45:09 <OliverK|AFK> Hello, dzjepp. Is there something that the PortableApps.com community can help you with today?
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21:49:32 <_onestoploser_> Holy crap!
21:49:34 <_onestoploser_> lol
21:50:16 <Bensawsome> lol
21:50:19 <Bensawsome> ohaithar _onestoploser_!
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21:51:23 <pabot> kai_62656 is here. He's developing LMarbles, Lincity-NG, WinHTTrack Website Copier, Gourmet, and NVDA Portable.
21:51:37 <OliverK|AFK> _onestoploser_: you wants kicks givin to the clones?
21:51:44 <_onestoploser_> Yeah
21:51:48 <_onestoploser_> I can't ghost
21:51:53 <_onestoploser_> for some reason
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21:53:32 <OliverK|AFK> _onestoploser_: /msg nickserv GHOST <nick> [password]
21:53:45 <_onestoploser_> Ahhh
21:53:54 <_onestoploser_> I forgot [password]
21:53:55 <_onestoploser_> lol
21:54:16 <_onestoploser_> I'm outta here anyway, just needed to PM ZachT|AFK
21:54:22 <_onestoploser_> Later all. :)
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21:56:24 <Bensawsome> ...
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21:57:38 <OliverK|AFK> i was bored :p
21:57:43 *** OliverK|AFK is now known as OliverK
21:58:00 <OliverK> my C++ program isn't due until wednesday!
21:58:02 <OliverK> hurray!
22:02:21 <dragonmage> so what are you making?
22:02:23 <OliverK> http://www.technibble.com/computer-repair-utility-kit/
22:02:34 <OliverK> it solves the quadratic equation for you
22:02:50 <Havvy> Oh cool.
22:03:00 <OliverK> but its a pain in the but, and I think I finally got it working. I had to go talk to the teacher about it
22:03:01 <Havvy> But still, I have an equation for that.
22:03:12 <OliverK> yeah, it uses the equation
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22:04:23 <SrgSiler|sAFK> hello TimClark
22:05:29 <TimClark> Hello SrgSiler|sAFK :)
22:05:35 *** PatrickPatience is now known as PatrickP|Away
22:05:44 <OliverK> welcome back TimClark
22:05:55 <TimClark> Sure, go ahead leave PatrickP|Away , see if I care :P
22:06:01 <TimClark> Thank you OliverK
22:07:16 <dragonmage> I liked the old miro interface better
22:07:19 <Havvy> Hello TimClark.
22:07:50 <TimClark> Havvy: Long time no chat, anything new in the land of mibbit :D
22:08:02 <Havvy> Unfortunately not.
22:08:18 <Havvy> Mostly backend work to stabalise the widget
22:10:23 * TimClark and Havvy sneak into a corner to talk about mibbit :O
22:10:36 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
22:11:00 <Havvy> You mean like #mibbit ?
22:11:08 * SrgSiler|sAFK steals $20 from TimClark's wallet while he is away
22:11:17 <SrgSiler|sAFK> hehe }:D
22:11:59 <TimClark> Sorry SrgSiler|sAFK , that wasn't my walleted you grabbed :O
22:12:10 <SrgSiler|sAFK> whos then?
22:12:30 * SrgSiler|sAFK takes out TimClark's ID
22:12:39 <TimClark> ah, you did put your hand in my pants, but That is not my wallet :O
22:12:40 <dragonmage> heheh, I broke miro
22:12:49 <SrgSiler|sAFK> TimClark: ...
22:12:57 <SrgSiler|sAFK> you have a sick mind
22:13:02 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
22:13:11 <TimClark> No, just good with come backs :P
22:13:19 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
22:13:23 <dragonmage> you're the one grabbing his junk, and you call him sick?
22:13:38 <TimClark> ok, guys, enough :P
22:13:42 <SrgSiler|sAFK> dragonmage: lol
22:13:56 * SrgSiler|sAFK goes to wash off hand
22:14:13 * dragonmage goes to wash off mind
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22:25:02 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
22:26:24 <TimClark> Hello KevinPorter
22:26:35 <KevinPorter> Hi TimClark. :)
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22:29:50 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
22:29:55 <rbrt13> hello
22:31:09 <TimClark> hello rbrt13
22:32:01 <rbrt13> i found something that i think is great
22:32:42 <rbrt13> it is an online thing called AjaxAnimator, it allows you to make flash files for free
22:34:06 <Bensawsome> O_O
22:34:08 <TimClark> Will they play in the normal adobe Flash programs
22:34:14 <dragonmage> From the looks of it I may be able to do some really interesting things with the VLC skinning engine.
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22:34:45 <rbrt13> yes
22:35:01 <TimClark> rbrt13: do you have a link ?
22:35:11 <rbrt13> it works on the basis that PHP has the ability to create flash files
22:35:13 <rbrt13> h/o
22:35:38 <rbrt13> http://osflash.org/ajaxanimator
22:35:46 <rbrt13> you can get it from google code
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22:37:40 <rbrt13> it can also save the files in the MS Silverlight format, an animated GIF, or one other format
22:37:58 <rbrt13> but flash is the most supported one
22:38:00 <Havvy> MNG?
22:38:37 <rbrt13> the SVG format i beleive
22:38:49 <rbrt13> it is parsed by browsers
22:39:14 <Havvy> SVG sounds more likely
22:40:19 <rbrt13> it is labeled as processing
22:40:38 <rbrt13> pde
22:41:18 <rbrt13> i do not know what that is
22:41:48 <Bensawsome> rbrt13: who cares about silverlight :P
22:43:53 <rbrt13> not i
22:44:00 <rbrt13> but flash is better
22:44:21 <KevinPorter> Actually from a specifications standpoint Silverlight is better.
22:44:26 <TimClark> I will try it but only when the plugin is completely portable, like flash
22:45:49 <rbrt13> i just like flash more
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22:46:12 <pabot> OliverK is liking his days off
22:47:58 * rbrt13 has today off too
22:48:28 <rbrt13> so i slept in till 4 PM
22:48:39 <rbrt13> EST
22:48:48 <OliverK> sweetness
22:49:28 <rbrt13> onlt 10 hours of sleep
22:49:29 <rbrt13> only*
22:50:12 * rbrt13 thinks to make a video cd
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23:14:50 <pabot> Roamer is a linux geek cursed to use windows until he gets his own laptop.
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23:32:12 <Roamer> Hi daBomb69.
23:42:36 <daBomb69> hello
23:42:59 <Roamer> Need something?
23:43:18 <daBomb69> ya, but not quite sure if here's where i shld ask
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23:44:41 <daBomb69> Is there anyone here who knows how to edit that NSIS stuff?
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23:45:15 <Roamer> I do not, hopefully one of the others can answer your question.
23:45:26 <daBomb69> ok, thnx
23:45:30 <daBomb69> :)
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