IRC Log from 2009-02-23
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00:01:16 <daBomb69> and, MGhany: VMWare Player is freeware. The catch is that you can't make any files to run on it. VMWare Workstation is what can turn the .iso's into VM playable files
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00:04:35 <MGhany> sry bout that...I had to leave 4 a while
00:04:35 <MGhany> so where were we?
00:04:39 <MGhany> oh yes
00:04:58 <MGhany> i got the portable version from the german site
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00:05:14 <MGhany> and installed ubuntu
00:05:14 <daBomb69> that quickly? Wow
00:05:27 * daBomb69 cheers for Ubuntu
00:06:01 <MGhany> my first time ever seeing it or doing anything with it
00:06:01 <MGhany> but I heard a lot about it so i wanted to c 4 myself
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00:06:34 <MGhany> but what do u all recommend if I want to develop apps for windows?
00:06:55 <MGhany> I can't seem to find an iso of XP or Vista anywhere
00:06:55 <daBomb69> Windows
00:07:11 <powerjuce> MGhany: there are none, you need to buy them
00:07:11 <Roamer> MGhany: Ubuntu is alot of fun. I use it, i would be right now but my dialup modem will not work in Ubuntu.. (yet).
00:07:26 * Roamer coughs...
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00:07:38 <MGhany> so I was thinking of installing wine on the ubuntu on VB
00:07:50 <daBomb69> hello Guest77986, how can we help you today?
00:07:56 <Roamer> hello benawsome, lose your connection?
00:07:57 <TimClark> Hello Guest77986 can we help you
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00:08:13 <powerjuce> hello pa_0402 how can we help u
00:08:27 <daBomb69> hello pa_0402, how can we help you today?
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00:08:40 <Guest77986> lol its bensawsome :P
00:08:42 <Guest77986> thanks though ;)
00:08:52 <MGhany> so would installing wine on ubuntu be as good as getting windows?
00:09:00 * powerjuce slaps Guest77986 around a bit with a large trout
00:09:12 <powerjuce> MGhany: it depends on what you want
00:09:15 <daBomb69> MGhany: not really, but preaty close
00:09:19 <MaienM> MGhany: no it would be better since you're not using windows :D
00:09:26 <powerjuce> if you want to develop apps for windows then no
00:09:29 * Guest77986 eats the trout
00:09:33 <Guest77986> thanks powerjuce ^_^
00:09:36 <MGhany> hey...go to the off topic!
00:09:48 <MGhany> Im trying to get some info here!!!
00:09:51 * daBomb69 steals Guest77986's trout
00:09:53 <powerjuce> but if u want to just use the some apps then wine will work as well as windows
00:09:56 * Guest77986 points at powerjuce
00:10:03 <powerjuce> daBomb69 and Guest77986 please go to -ot
00:10:20 <MGhany> how much resources do u recommend for the VM?
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00:10:34 <daBomb69> depends on wat OS ur trying to VM
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00:10:39 <powerjuce> meaning in terms of ram or size?
00:10:54 <Roamer> MGhany: 8 gb vhd minimum.
00:11:28 <Roamer> for ram...: umm...
00:11:37 <powerjuce> MGhany: btw r u using the server or the workstation/
00:11:40 <powerjuce> ?*
00:12:06 <MGhany> I had 128MB RAM (i kno thats stupid) and 2GB space....and it was SLOW!!!!
00:12:06 <MGhany> but that was on my uncle's laptop and it only had 1 GB ram and it was using 70% of it at the time
00:12:31 <MGhany> i cant run it on my dads comp. due to admin rights
00:12:33 <powerjuce> no u will need at least 256 ram
00:12:41 <powerjuce> for ubuntu that is
00:13:02 <daBomb69> Windows 7 has aero, right?
00:13:06 <powerjuce> and about 10 gigs for space
00:13:06 <MGhany> i dont think Ill bother with the portable version once I get my admin right back
00:13:09 <powerjuce> daBomb69: yes
00:13:11 <MGhany> ya
00:13:34 <MGhany> then I can use like 512 ram and 20GBs space
00:13:40 <daBomb69> kk, then at lease 1 1/2+ gb ram for W7
00:13:56 <daBomb69> aero often takes up 1gb of ram by itself
00:14:02 <Roamer> daBomb69: not really. tell ya in the ot
00:14:23 <MGhany> im talking about Ubuntu!!!! running on Vista Ultimate
00:14:32 <powerjuce> MGhany: i kno
00:14:49 <powerjuce> MGhany: and those number look good
00:14:55 <daBomb69> srry, thought we were still talking bout W7
00:15:13 <MGhany> but Ill have to wait till I get admin right...which can be a while
00:15:13 <powerjuce> daBomb69: please go to #portableapps-ot
00:15:29 <powerjuce> MGhany: btw what portable version r u using/
00:15:31 <powerjuce> ?*
00:16:12 <MGhany> Sun Virtual Box Portable from the German Site
00:16:19 <MGhany> there's only one
00:17:13 <MGhany> but this was my first experience with Ubuntu and a Virtual Machine....and they look promising
00:17:22 <powerjuce> o your using vitual box not vmware
00:17:25 <MGhany> I love the GUI of Ubuntu!
00:17:41 <powerjuce> u like gnome huh/
00:17:42 <powerjuce> ?*
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00:17:53 <MGhany> ya...I dont think VMW Player fits what I would want
00:18:04 <Roamer> powerjuce: just wait till he finds out about compiz-fuzion...
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00:18:49 <MGhany> ya...but I dont really know much about it...I LOVE what I saw though
00:19:09 <MGhany> I wish I could be OSS all the way!!!
00:19:21 <Roamer> I have it going on my ubuntu install. basically... it's a fancy nerd toy. lol
00:19:54 <MGhany> so Gnome is an app u can install on Ubuntu?...I'm gonna do that 2!!!!!!!!!!!
00:20:04 <Roamer> MGhany: I do only use free and open software. It
00:20:16 <Roamer> it is a challenge but can be done.
00:20:30 <powerjuce> MGhany: no gnome is the interface that you use
00:20:41 <powerjuce> Roamer: same here except for windows
00:21:24 <MGhany> it a shame I have no control over the computer I'm using...its really my dad's
00:21:30 <Roamer> well, i am using windows too, atm. it is the only closed thing i use. mostly it
00:21:42 <Roamer> *its ubuntu
00:21:48 <MGhany> I can;t wait till I get my own tho...then its OSS
00:22:08 <MGhany> but will WINE allow all windows software to run?
00:22:20 <Roamer> MGhany: keep a windows install on there too, just in case. not all software can run in wine.
00:22:42 <Roamer> some can. but not all.
00:23:08 * MGhany is going away for a while
00:23:13 <powerjuce> MGhany: yea there are a lot that work but not all
00:23:32 <powerjuce> Roamer: have u heard of crossover?
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00:23:44 <Roamer> the band?
00:24:11 <powerjuce> the program
00:24:36 <Roamer> then no.
00:24:37 <Roamer> lol
00:24:45 <powerjuce> it is like wine
00:24:49 <powerjuce> but it is commercial
00:24:51 <Roamer> got a link
00:25:30 <powerjuce> http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxlinux/
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00:25:56 <powerjuce> the only reason i got it was because it was being given a way for free for a while
00:26:00 <RoamerIsGone> brb phone
00:26:03 <powerjuce> ok i g2g for a while
00:26:04 <powerjuce> dinner
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00:49:13 <daBomb69> hello sp_02111, how can we help you today?
00:49:38 <sp_02111> might i ask a stupid newbe question re portable app suite or open office 3
00:50:04 <daBomb69> there is a portable app suite, and there is OO.o 3
00:50:10 <sp_02111> I am new to portable apps
00:50:42 <daBomb69> have you ywt been to portableapps.com?
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00:50:51 <daBomb69> *yet
00:50:58 <sp_02111> would like to install open office 3.0 on my scandisk U3 drive but cant find simple getting started instructiosn... sorry
00:52:24 <TimClark> sp_02111: have you just tried starting the installer and letting it pick the default location on you flash drive
00:52:31 <MGhany> sorry for this comment but I can't help it
00:52:31 <MGhany> U3!!!!!!!!!!!
00:52:35 <daBomb69> 1.do u have the PA Menu?
00:52:35 <daBomb69> 2. If oyu dont, download the OO.o exe from the portableapps.com website, and double click it. Have it install in X:\Open Office Portable, or X:\ , or whereever u want it to, X being ur drive
00:52:37 * MGhany feels nausious
00:52:51 <TimClark> MGhany: stop
00:52:56 <MGhany> sorry
00:53:17 <sp_02111> I download a small .exe but clicking it goes nowehere
00:53:34 <daBomb69> was it the OO.o exe from the PA website?
00:53:38 <TimClark> how small sp_02111
00:53:40 <sp_02111> yes
00:53:55 <daBomb69> how small, r u sure u DL'ed the whole thing?
00:54:12 <sp_02111> 277KB
00:54:18 <TimClark> something is wrong with your download, OO.o is very big
00:54:32 <MGhany> wow..something went wrong
00:54:33 <sp_02111> ok
00:54:36 <TimClark> try downloading it again
00:54:38 <daBomb69> ya, thats WAAAAAAAy 2 small, check to see if it's finished DLing
00:54:44 <TimClark> MGhany: stop
00:54:48 <sp_02111> i will try to redownload and open
00:54:49 <daBomb69> if it is, DL it again
00:54:50 <sp_02111> thanks
00:54:58 <MGhany> i was gonna help:(
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00:55:21 <MGhany> i just didnt get it in in time
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00:55:32 <TimClark> help in the background in -ot if you don't have something really helpful to say
00:55:32 <pabot> TimClark: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
00:55:44 <daBomb69> hello dbdii407
00:56:25 <Roamer> daBomb69: it's davedixonii
00:56:37 <daBomb69> oh, kk
00:56:41 <Bensawsome> no either...
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00:57:20 <DaveDixonII> Hurray for actually checking my vHost. :P
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01:26:21 <SergentSiler> peer clams another D:
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01:27:06 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
01:34:43 <MGhany> daBomb69: I actually downloaded the TypeTutor and the 1st lesson was great...but im much more terrible than I thought at leson
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01:43:53 <Bensawsome> ohaithar KevinMPorter and KevinPorter! you has a clone?
01:43:54 <Bensawsome> lol
01:43:59 <Bensawsome> which one is teh real one :O
01:44:00 <Bensawsome> lol
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01:48:01 <powerjuce|away> can anyone download the the iso from here: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd ?
01:49:07 <daBomb69> powerjuice|away: what is the iso for?
01:50:00 <powerjuce|away> it is one used to help fix comps
01:50:23 <daBomb69> oh, kk
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01:53:29 <TimClark> powerjuce|away: how big is the iso ?
01:53:43 <powerjuce|away> i dont kno, but i am looking for a download link
01:53:46 <powerjuce|away> i cant find any
01:54:01 <daBomb69> nor can i find the link
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01:54:26 <Bensawsome> powerjuce: you mean find the download link?
01:54:31 <powerjuce> yea
01:54:36 <Bensawsome> i couldnt either :/
01:54:48 <Bensawsome> its very strange :/
01:54:55 <Bensawsome> just google it and you can find it powerjuce :)
01:55:09 <daBomb69> i'm just contacting him nd asking 4 the Dl link
01:55:23 <SergentSiler> only gotz 35 minutes left on my battery :P
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01:56:07 <Bensawsome> lol SergentSiler :P
01:56:21 <Bensawsome> havent you ever hearrd of an ac adapter SergentSiler :P
01:56:25 <SergentSiler> i have one
01:56:26 <Bensawsome> and i brb
01:56:30 <SergentSiler> but its upstairs :P
01:56:33 <SergentSiler> and i am lazy
01:56:50 * SergentSiler + Lazyness = NO Adapter for YOU!
01:56:58 <TimClark> Hey, guys, I found us a portableapps theme song :
01:57:00 <TimClark> We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian :D
01:57:10 <SergentSiler> yes!
01:57:24 <SergentSiler> TimClark, FTW x1234567890
01:57:56 <TimClark> based on "We are Australian" so our founder will love it :D
01:58:01 <SergentSiler> :P
01:58:07 <daBomb69> Who's austalian?
01:58:16 <SergentSiler> ryan mccue :P
01:58:21 <Roamer> rmmcue
01:58:22 <daBomb69> oh
01:58:23 <TimClark> ryan mccue, founder of the channel
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01:58:58 * MaienM likes it :D
01:59:09 <TimClark> look for the song, We are Australian/I am Australian on Youtube, it's really nice
01:59:19 <TimClark> but get the version by the Seekers
01:59:30 <daBomb69> TimClark: Who/What would sing the PA song?
01:59:35 <TimClark> The_Seekers_-_I_am_Australian_1993_.flv
01:59:46 <Roamer> who's got the mp3 of it? (the we are pappsian) someone should make it!
01:59:58 <TimClark> ALL of us, We Are One :D
01:59:59 <daBomb69> I'll make it!
02:00:03 <daBomb69> :-D
02:00:29 * daBomb69 <3 Audacity
02:00:34 <Roamer> lol, i might acctually, try to. with a midi editor... and some other stuffs...
02:00:52 <TimClark> http://users.bigpond.net.au/aussieconnection/chorus.htm
02:01:03 <TimClark> The lyrics above
02:01:14 <daBomb69> Roamer: Extract the audio from the utube video, and use audacity to make them say the PA theme song
02:01:54 <TimClark> remember: it shoud be "P" "Apps" "I" "an"
02:02:08 <Roamer> daBomb69: easier to redo the song. cutting lyrics out of audio tracks never sounds good.
02:02:15 <TimClark> the I = e
02:02:20 <daBomb69> true
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02:03:41 <Roamer> TimClark: so is the next part "John came from the dream time, from the dusty red soil plains..."
02:03:46 <Roamer> ? lol
02:04:06 <daBomb69> somehow, insert the word Firefox, or Mozilla into this song
02:04:15 <daBomb69> helping out w/ the orgins of PA
02:04:16 <pabot> daBomb69: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
02:04:28 <daBomb69> y did pabot just do that?
02:04:36 <MaienM> you said help :P
02:04:42 <daBomb69> help
02:04:42 <pabot> daBomb69: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
02:04:47 <daBomb69> oh, weird
02:05:03 <TimClark> Stop, it's just a bug, let it go
02:05:09 <daBomb69> MaiemM: y didn't it do that when u said help?
02:05:10 <Roamer> "John came upon the Firefox, bowed down by iron chains."? daBomb69 like that? :P
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02:05:28 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
02:05:33 <daBomb69> That is great
02:05:51 <MaienM> daBomb69: it only does it when the first 4 letters are "help", as in "help!!" or "help??" or, unfortunately, "helping"
02:05:53 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: we have a new theme song :D
02:06:01 <daBomb69> oh, kk
02:06:03 <Roamer> lol, i'm doing the lyrics now for the full we are PAppsian...
02:06:11 <TimClark> We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian :D
02:06:11 <MaienM> :D
02:06:16 <ChrisMorgan> TimClark: *ARGH*
02:06:51 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: it's from We Are Australian" I thought you would like it :-(
02:07:14 <Bensawsome> ?
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02:08:33 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now
02:08:42 <TimClark> Hello ZachThibeau :D
02:09:19 <ZachThibeau> howdy TimClark
02:09:32 <Bensawsome> hey ^_^
02:09:33 <ZachThibeau> everything been quiet?
02:09:42 <ChrisMorgan> Hey ZachThibeau :-)
02:10:02 <Bensawsome> ya
02:10:07 <Bensawsome> too quiet =_=
02:10:08 <Bensawsome> lol
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02:10:19 <Gizmokid2005> anybody here use audiograbber?
02:10:20 <Bensawsome> hey Gizmokid2005 ^_^
02:10:29 <Gizmokid2005> hello Bensawsome, ZachThibeau, TimClark, et al
02:10:33 <daBomb69> audiograbber?
02:11:05 <Bensawsome> hmm ive heard of it >_>
02:11:44 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
02:11:49 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/
02:12:11 <Bensawsome> lol nice domain :/
02:12:36 <daBomb69> uhh, so it's basicaly a CD-Ripper
02:13:09 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: yes
02:13:14 <Gizmokid2005> and Bensawsome I know
02:13:35 <daBomb69> so, wats the difference between this and other audio rippers?
02:13:36 <Gizmokid2005> it's really easy to use, but I'm having an issue with it..
02:14:40 <Gizmokid2005> for some reason, it looks like it's query to freedb isn't pulling the genre
02:15:28 <daBomb69> freedb isn't down, is it?
02:15:32 <Gizmokid2005> nope
02:15:36 <Gizmokid2005> it pulls all the other data
02:15:41 <Gizmokid2005> just doesn't update the genre
02:15:41 <daBomb69> weird
02:15:50 <Gizmokid2005> and I don't know of a quick easy way to find the correct genre
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02:16:34 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
02:17:56 <Bensawsome> hmmm hey guys im confused is visual basic and vb.net the same thing :/
02:18:04 <ChrisMorgan> No
02:18:06 <ChrisMorgan> Not at all
02:18:10 <ChrisMorgan> VB is gone.
02:18:14 <Bensawsome> ok thanks....
02:18:15 <Bensawsome> hmm
02:18:18 <Bensawsome> wait gone?
02:18:20 <Roamer> no, Bensawsome. for the love of all that is pure. No.
02:18:46 <Bensawsome> oh F***
02:18:52 <ZachThibeau> man I love this node :P http://portableapps.com/node/18207 I got them to "rum" properly :P
02:19:02 <Bensawsome> well im learning a programming language thats dead.... darnit.....
02:19:40 <daBomb69> Bensawesome: If ur gonna learn a programing language, learn NSIS
02:20:02 <Bensawsome> but my virtual high school doesnt offer a class in that >_>
02:20:05 <powerjuce> noo learn C
02:20:05 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: what VB are you learning?
02:20:13 <Gizmokid2005> do you have a link to class/book/etc?
02:20:20 <ZachThibeau> nsis isn't a programming language but a scripting language daBomb69
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02:20:28 <daBomb69> oh
02:20:30 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005: vb6
02:20:34 * daBomb69 cries in corner
02:20:46 <Bensawsome> *sigh* damnit
02:20:48 <Gizmokid2005> VB and VB.net are a LOT alike
02:20:57 <Bensawsome> why the hell are they teaching a dead language >:(
02:21:02 <ChrisMorgan> Not really true.
02:21:04 <Gizmokid2005> they aren't, it's not dead
02:21:11 <Bensawsome> :/
02:21:12 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: please don't swear
02:21:12 <ChrisMorgan> VB.Net has /many/ new things
02:21:16 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: yes it is!
02:21:23 <Bensawsome> sry :S i was just kinda pissed
02:21:24 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: no, it's not
02:21:38 <Gizmokid2005> everything you learn in VB6 will translate to vb.NET
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02:21:44 <ChrisMorgan> It is unsupported by Microsoft. Not developed. Being dropped out of things like AutoCAD 2010
02:21:44 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: Might not be a very powerful language, but it's going to teach you the fundamentals of other programming languages. Hopefully.
02:21:47 <Ras> harro
02:21:55 <Bensawsome> and the reason i been wondering is cause im trying to find a open source dev evnorimonet for vb :/
02:21:59 <Bensawsome> hello Ras. Can we help you with something?
02:22:10 <daBomb69> hello Ras, how can we help you today?
02:22:19 <Ras> No just having a chat
02:22:23 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: don't bother - he's opposite me in our computer room... :/
02:22:24 <ChrisMorgan> And impressed that I'm an op here ;-)
02:22:31 <ZachThibeau> :P
02:22:35 <Bensawsome> oh... lol
02:23:11 <ChrisMorgan> Never mind about him - ignore him. Our lunch time finishes in a few minutes, he'll go then.
02:23:18 <Bensawsome> but ya thats one of the main reason i took this class
02:23:19 <ChrisMorgan> Whereas I get a double free :-)
02:23:25 <Ras> uhh
02:23:31 <Ras> nou
02:23:47 <Ras> ~rules
02:23:48 <Bensawsome> lol ChrisMorgan :P
02:23:50 <Ras> !ryules
02:23:51 <Ras> omg
02:23:53 <Ras> !rules
02:23:56 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: , KevinPorter is dead on. That's why they teach it...it's an easy language to learn to learn the fudnamentals of programmet
02:23:56 <Bensawsome> help
02:23:57 <pabot> Bensawsome: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
02:23:58 <Gizmokid2005> *programming
02:24:02 <Gizmokid2005> I learned VB.NET in HS
02:24:08 <Gizmokid2005> and had it again in college
02:24:13 <rbrt13> does anyone here use Inkscape
02:24:15 <Gizmokid2005> with vb.net 2007
02:24:18 <Bensawsome> thats what we use Ras ;)
02:24:22 <ChrisMorgan> Whereas now they don't teach IT beyond Y10 here, and no programming or anything like that
02:24:27 <ChrisMorgan> rbrt13: I do!
02:24:33 <rbrt13> i like it
02:24:38 <rbrt13> i just got it today
02:24:40 <ChrisMorgan> I'm the Inkscape Portable developer, and it follows... ;-)
02:24:45 <Bensawsome> anywho anyone know an open source dev envirenment for vb6 i could attempt to make into a portableapp? :D
02:25:00 <Bensawsome> i thought i remember one beingv mentioned before./....
02:25:02 <daBomb69> CrisMorgan: Inkscape portable ROX!
02:25:09 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: you are talking MS and OSS...
02:25:11 <Bensawsome> on the site i mean
02:25:12 <ChrisMorgan> Of /course/ it does! :P
02:25:15 <Ras> what is inkscape
02:25:19 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005: i know :/
02:25:25 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: you are pretty much SOL
02:25:37 <Bensawsome> damn >_>
02:25:44 <rbrt13> i have VB.net 2008 EE
02:25:47 <Bensawsome> eh whatedver ill just remote into my home comp wherever i am ^_^
02:25:50 <ChrisMorgan> Any questions Ras asks in here, pretty much ignore him - I'll cope with him :P
02:25:50 <rbrt13> i think
02:25:57 <Bensawsome> lol
02:26:00 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: /please/ don't swear...
02:26:19 <Ras> GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE
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02:26:30 <ChrisMorgan> :/
02:26:36 <ChrisMorgan> Ah well, I'm going too now.
02:26:38 <Bensawsome> ....
02:26:39 <ChrisMorgan> Bye!
02:26:40 <MaienM> indeed :S
02:26:40 <Bensawsome> lol
02:26:43 <Bensawsome> cya ChrisMorgan
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02:26:56 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005: well i found one for...vb.net :D
02:26:57 <Bensawsome> lol
02:27:01 <Bensawsome> http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx
02:27:02 <Bensawsome> damn
02:27:10 <Bensawsome> it requires .net fr
02:27:18 <Bensawsome> that sucks :/
02:27:28 <Roamer> Bensawsome: hang one. I have a .net thing for ya... getting link...
02:27:33 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yes, and any app you create in VB or VB.NET requires the .net framework to run
02:27:34 <Bensawsome> no
02:27:34 <Bensawsome> lol
02:27:46 <Bensawsome> Roamer: i dont want a vb.net i want a vb6 one ;)
02:27:48 <Bensawsome> lol
02:27:53 <Bensawsome> sry to be picky..
02:27:54 <Bensawsome> XD
02:28:01 <Bensawsome> wait a sec...
02:28:15 <Bensawsome> i have learned a .net lanugage in the past...
02:28:18 <Bensawsome> waht was it..............
02:28:22 <Roamer> Bensawsome: http://lolcode.com/ either way look at this.
02:28:37 <Bensawsome> lolcode..
02:28:38 <Bensawsome> nice
02:28:52 <Roamer> yes.
02:29:06 <Roamer> when geeks get bored... lol
02:29:12 <daBomb69> lolcode, wtf
02:29:42 <Bensawsome> wow....
02:29:48 <Bensawsome> holy shiitacki mushrooms
02:29:50 <Bensawsome> thats....
02:29:54 <Bensawsome> awsome....
02:29:56 <Bensawsome> wow
02:30:00 <Roamer> exactly.
02:30:02 <Bensawsome> i totally wanna learn that now...
02:30:02 <daBomb69> :P
02:30:17 <Bensawsome> and its open source Roamer?
02:30:46 <Roamer> maybe... not sure.
02:31:11 <Bensawsome> wow either way thats awesome ^_^
02:31:40 <MaienM> thats epic Roamer :D
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02:32:09 <Roamer> :D
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02:32:25 * Roamer can haz awesomez pointage?
02:33:08 * Bensawsome givez teh awsomez pointage ^_^
02:33:24 <Roamer> Yay!!!
02:33:57 <Bensawsome> ^_^
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02:36:39 <Bensawsome> hmmm Gizmokid2005: http://classicvb.sourceforge.net/
02:36:42 <Bensawsome> interesting
02:37:04 <Gizmokid2005> definitely
02:37:06 <ZachThibeau> hmm seems John is finally taking my idea of using reCaptcha http://portableapps.com/node/17954#comment-112206
02:37:16 <Bensawsome> :D
02:37:46 <Bensawsome> hmm ill dl and see what its like Gizmokid2005
02:37:58 <Bensawsome> but it hasnt been updated since may 2006 unfortunately Gizmokid2005 :/
02:38:07 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickP|Away: lol
02:38:08 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
02:38:17 <KevinPorter> ZachThibeau: You was right. ;)
02:38:18 <Gizmokid2005> wow..fail, that wasn't even supposed to be there..
02:38:20 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yeah...
02:38:27 <Bensawsome> :/
02:38:59 <ZachThibeau> KevinPorter: right about what...
02:39:29 <KevinPorter> Sorry, nevermind. :P
02:39:50 * ZachThibeau is confused
02:40:02 <KevinPorter> I was being stupid, just forget it. :P
02:40:24 * ZachThibeau is now even more confused :S
02:40:35 * ZachThibeau goes to get something to eat now
02:40:56 * daBomb69 is confusededer
02:41:13 <Roamer> So now we know. Zach eats when confused.
02:42:30 <KevinPorter> If I ate when I was confused... I'd weigh much more than I do now.
02:42:54 <daBomb69> unlease u ate lots of celery
02:43:12 <KevinPorter> Then I'd just... nevermind, I won't say it. :P
02:43:21 <daBomb69> :P
02:44:07 <Roamer> KevinPorter would be on the toilet alot... XD
02:47:31 <KevinPorter> You could say that.
02:47:41 <Roamer> I did. :P
02:47:48 <daBomb69> :P
02:47:55 <daBomb69> :P
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03:06:28 <daBomb69> hello Sancas
03:06:54 <Sancas> hi
03:09:56 <daBomb69> how are you today?
03:10:10 <Sancas> fine
03:10:14 <Sancas> and you?
03:10:21 <daBomb69> good
03:16:36 <TimClark> Good night all :D
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03:30:04 <pa_3046> hello
03:30:22 <daBomb69> hello pa_3046, how can we help you?
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03:31:29 <PatrickPatience> Good book: http://portableapps.com/node/18209
03:31:39 <PatrickPatience> Poor guy, that's a strange bug.
03:31:43 <PatrickPatience> And signs do seem to point to Xenon.
03:32:30 <pa_3046> is there any way to get other portable apps (like from oprtable freeware) to show up right in the menu
03:32:44 <DaveDixonII> pa_3046: Yup.
03:32:51 <pa_3046> yay
03:33:04 <DaveDixonII> pa_3046: Create a folder in X:\PortableApps
03:33:07 <daBomb69> yes, just put the app in a file so that its like : X:\Portable Apps\My Program\App
03:33:12 <daBomb69> app being the exe
03:33:20 <daBomb69> x being the drive name
03:33:33 <daBomb69> and My program being the name of the program
03:33:56 <pa_3046> what about porgrams that contain multiple exes
03:34:00 <pa_3046> ?
03:34:08 <DaveDixonII> pa_3046: Then they will all show on the menu
03:34:17 <daBomb69> like, different programs, or uninstaller, program?
03:34:27 <daBomb69> they'll all show up
03:34:52 <pa_3046> well sometimes its like idk like mplayer and then mplayerw32 (just an example, i know mplayer isn't like that)
03:35:29 <pa_3046> is there someway to hide it
03:35:37 <pa_3046> cuase i wouldnt want to delete them
03:35:40 <daBomb69> well, they'll all show up, u could try moving the exe that u dont want to a diff folder, but then the main exe might not work
03:36:28 <DaveDixonII> pa_3046: There is an /unsupported/ menu that looks just like the PortableApps menu. With Extra features.
03:36:45 <pa_3046> oh cool which one
03:36:57 <DaveDixonII> It will allow you to remove those un-needed exe's from the menu. :)
03:37:09 <pa_3046> wheres the likn
03:37:14 <pa_3046> *link
03:37:16 <pa_3046> :D
03:37:24 <DaveDixonII> http://portableapps.com/node/8569
03:37:51 <DaveDixonII> Just note it's unsupported. So you won't get help with it.
03:38:23 <daBomb69> DaveDixonII: geek.menu is better
03:38:29 <pa_3046> its ok but i cant see the download link
03:38:56 <DaveDixonII> pa_3046: http://portableapps.xrx.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/portableappsmenur30.zip
03:40:03 <daBomb69> pa_3046, in my opinion, this unsupported menu is better: geek.menu http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=209346
03:40:06 * DaveDixonII holds his ground as an official dev. :P
03:40:26 * daBomb69 didn't know DaveDixonII was a dev
03:40:52 <DaveDixonII> pa_3046: Will that be all for you today? :)
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03:41:02 <DaveDixonII> Guess so.
03:41:05 <daBomb69> mhmm
03:41:14 <DaveDixonII> .pa Lightscreen Portable
03:41:17 <pabot> DaveDixonII: Lightscreen Portable - http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/lightscreen_portable
03:41:27 <DaveDixonII> daBomb69: Feel free to look. :P
03:41:28 <daBomb69> thats a great app
03:41:33 <daBomb69> i have that one
03:41:52 <daBomb69> u made that?
03:41:59 <DaveDixonII> Yup.
03:42:03 <daBomb69> cool!!!
03:42:09 <DaveDixonII> Made it portable. Not really the app itself.
03:42:18 <daBomb69> of course
03:43:40 <DaveDixonII> Pain in the arse
03:43:40 <DaveDixonII> :P
03:43:48 <daBomb69> :-D
03:43:58 <DaveDixonII> It took heck if i can remember correctly
03:44:00 <DaveDixonII> O_o
03:44:30 <daBomb69> Still, it was worth it for that app (it rox!)
03:44:38 <DaveDixonII> Ty. :P
03:45:06 * DaveDixonII is cold
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03:45:46 * daBomb69 is wishing he lived in New Zealand
03:46:01 <DaveDixonII> If i remember correctly. Geek.Menu just kept refreshing itself like every 2 minutes and murdered my flash drive. O_o
03:46:23 <daBomb69> oh, so thats y it keeps disapering for like 2 sec.
03:46:33 <DaveDixonII> Lol
03:46:33 * daBomb69 screams when the realization hits him!
03:46:56 <daBomb69> So, does it write to the drive when it refreashes?
03:47:07 <DaveDixonII> Hey! Command Prompt came out. :)
03:47:18 <daBomb69> ya!! YAY!
03:47:52 <daBomb69> Unfortunatly, at my school, the admin has banned Command promps from even being used. :-(
03:48:08 <DaveDixonII> Don't most schools? Lol
03:48:20 <Bensawsome> i would hope all school do :/
03:48:32 <DaveDixonII> My school recently blocked Twitter from being used cause I kept logging into it. xD
03:48:40 <daBomb69> What could one even do with a command promt that would be bad?
03:48:50 <daBomb69> and, i can't beleave they blocked twitter
03:48:58 <daBomb69> thats just mean
03:49:04 <Bensawsome> daBomb69: bad things..
03:49:12 <daBomb69> Well, thats specific
03:49:17 <Bensawsome> seriously what CANT you do that can be bad with command prompt
03:49:22 <Bensawsome> oh!
03:49:25 <Bensawsome> you want specific?
03:49:28 <daBomb69> sure
03:49:32 <Bensawsome> lemme show you this bat file i made ;)
03:49:34 <DaveDixonII> And thanks to Bensawsome's idea to add a password thing to my SECRET pages (AKA VNC) They don't know crap! :D
03:49:43 <Bensawsome> it basically destroys ur computer
03:49:53 <Bensawsome> one sec
03:49:58 <Bensawsome> shoot nvrmnd...
03:50:04 <Bensawsome> its on my external hdd :/
03:50:22 <daBomb69> u didn't put it on a file hosting site?
03:52:13 <daBomb69> Bensawesome: could u upload this bat file to something at some point it time?
03:52:24 <Bensawsome> eh :/
03:52:28 <Bensawsome> now that i think of it...
03:52:35 <Bensawsome> its prbly better i keep it to myself :/
03:52:49 <Bensawsome> heres some funny things it does
03:52:57 <Bensawsome> it places itself in the startup folder
03:53:04 <Bensawsome> it disables the keyboard
03:53:05 <Bensawsome> and mouse
03:53:09 <DaveDixonII> LOL
03:53:11 <daBomb69> well, how could the rest of us know that u actually made this?
03:53:15 <Bensawsome> ummm lets see....
03:53:17 <Bensawsome> lol
03:53:27 <DaveDixonII> (C) Benjamin Button
03:53:28 <DaveDixonII> :)
03:53:34 <Bensawsome> daBomb69: i can tell you there are several on youtube :/
03:53:40 <Bensawsome> they arent mine
03:53:48 <Bensawsome> but they do very similiar things
03:53:49 <daBomb69> do they do the same thing?
03:53:52 <Bensawsome> but they do very similiar things
03:54:00 <Bensawsome> i just combined the most devious things ^_^
03:54:06 <Bensawsome> it was fun
03:54:14 * daBomb69 laughs evily
03:54:19 <Bensawsome> yes ^_^
03:54:28 <Bensawsome> so i thinks its better i keep it to myself :/
03:54:34 <DaveDixonII> Heh
03:54:43 * DaveDixonII goes back to his IRC Server
03:54:58 <daBomb69> U shld just make everyone agree to play nicely with it and let us DL it...
03:55:33 <Bensawsome> oh and i also figured out this nice little trick to make it disable where if you hold the power button it shuts down. so you have to puilll the power plug out ^_^
03:55:41 <Bensawsome> lol
03:55:44 <Bensawsome> anywho im off to bed
03:55:55 <DaveDixonII> Bensawsome: Buenas noches. :)
03:55:56 <daBomb69> good night
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03:56:11 <daBomb69> good bye everyone i g2g also
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03:56:21 <DaveDixonII> Is he gone?
04:04:17 <DaveDixonII> Darn
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06:12:03 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :D
06:13:02 <rmccue> ..
06:13:06 <rmccue> ......
06:13:11 <rmccue> .........
06:13:17 <rmccue> ......
06:13:19 <rmccue> ...
06:13:48 <TimClark> What do you thing rmccue :D
06:14:39 <rmccue> I refuse to comment.
06:14:50 <TimClark> I found that song tonight, it's beautiful
06:15:29 <TimClark> It made me cry [the original version of course ]
06:16:19 <rmccue> It *was* a good song, until you butchered it :P
06:16:41 <TimClark> i am sorry, i only changed one word :-(
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06:17:08 <alpha1beta> hello
06:17:20 <TimClark> consider the song dropped rmccue
06:17:28 <rmccue> :P
06:17:42 <rmccue> I actually thought it was funny :P
06:18:07 <TimClark> are you sure, i'm ready to kill the def ?
06:18:15 <rmccue> No, leave it.
06:18:20 <TimClark> ok
06:18:50 <TimClark> That is such a beautiful sone, it should be your national anthem
06:19:12 <TimClark> I am listening to it right now
06:19:35 <alpha1beta> ok, I'm not gonna ask what you guys are up to atm, but besides this topic at hand, how's it going?
06:20:04 <TimClark> fine thank you alpha1beta
06:20:53 <TimClark> I found a beautiful Austrailian song that I thought was good for papps theme, that's what we were talking about
06:21:08 <rmccue> .def TimClark
06:21:09 <pabot> rmccue: TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :D
06:21:19 <alpha1beta> ahh, and ryan is attempting to sing it?
06:21:32 <rmccue> ...
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06:25:42 <TimClark> alpha1beta: , you should try to find the song, it's really nice, it's called I am/We are Austrailian
06:26:41 <TimClark> youtube [yes, "I" said youtube :P ] has a couple of versions I think
06:27:47 <alpha1beta> maybe, watching spiderman atm, if you want another good song, check http://myspace.com/u2 it had their entire new album, most of which sucks, but get on your boots is good
06:28:31 <TimClark> will check it tommorow
06:29:11 <alpha1beta> whatever you do, do not buy the album when it comes out, not worth it
06:29:19 <TimClark> gotcha
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06:34:41 <alpha1beta> .tell KevinPorter, hey I finally found a gnome distro I like, opensolaris, never thought it would happen didja?
06:34:42 <pabot> alpha1beta: I'll pass that on when I next see KevinPorter.
06:34:46 <alpha1beta> thanks pabot
06:36:23 <alpha1beta> the bot is my b****
06:39:01 <excid3> orly
06:39:06 <alpha1beta> yessir
06:39:27 <excid3> i ordered open solaris cuz i didnt realize it was free till i saw ur tweet
06:39:34 <excid3> :)
06:39:45 <alpha1beta> :D
06:40:31 <alpha1beta> I'm liking it, decent theme to start with unlike a lot of stuff, and seems that it'll work with ubuntu's repos
06:41:17 <TimClark> repos=repositories ?
06:41:57 <excid3> TimClark, yessir
06:42:19 <TimClark> ty
06:42:26 <excid3> might have to make a plugin for solaris for Keryx if thats true
06:42:48 <alpha1beta> it should work without a plugin, or at least that would be my bet
06:43:14 <excid3> well right now it checks the distro name and ubuntu will return that its based on debian
06:43:24 <excid3> so if it doesnt return 'debian' then it wont lol
06:43:34 <alpha1beta> well opensolaris seems to be a .deb based too
06:43:49 <excid3> interesting
06:44:00 <excid3> im becoming a big fan of Fedora
06:44:24 <alpha1beta> I need to try a new fedora, haven't tryied it since fedora 6?
06:44:26 <alpha1beta> maybe 7
06:44:33 <excid3> lol same here
06:44:41 <excid3> running F10 on my eee...man is it great
06:45:00 <excid3> all you have to do is add the rpm fusion repository and you are set
06:45:15 <alpha1beta> hmm alrighty, time to download that I guess
06:45:49 <excid3> i strongly suggest it
06:46:05 <excid3> looking like any of my production machines, minus my server shall be moving to fedora
06:46:06 <excid3> :D
06:47:00 <alpha1beta> I use mainly opensuse
06:47:06 <alpha1beta> which is close to fedora
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06:47:50 <Rascal> Aww
06:48:00 <Rascal> I was looking forward to talking to Chris
06:48:32 <TimClark> Rascal: were you his friend who was here earlier
06:48:45 <Rascal> Could be
06:49:15 <alpha1beta> that's a yes or no question, yes or no?
06:49:30 <Rascal> lol, yes
06:49:52 <alpha1beta> ok, good, next was a samuel L jackson line, and you don't want that :P
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06:50:12 <TimClark> you were a little ... in appropriate , Rascal
06:50:14 <Rascal> Guess not ^^
06:50:27 <Rascal> It was all in good humor
06:50:35 <Rascal> just as he kicked me in the shins later...
06:50:37 <Rascal> in good humor
06:50:41 <TimClark> ok, just keep it in check
06:50:55 <rmccue> Chris? Kick?
06:50:57 <rmccue> :O
06:51:09 <Rascal> he's a violent one irl
06:51:10 <alpha1beta> which chris...
06:51:17 <TimClark> morgan
06:51:29 <alpha1beta> violent? NEVER
06:51:30 <TimClark> yes, hard to believe alpha1beta
06:51:53 <alpha1beta> I called him a meany and all he could say was "that's not nice"
06:52:22 <Rascal> Well, I knew he was into portableapps and all
06:52:31 <Rascal> but I never knew he was op :o
06:52:47 <alpha1beta> lol nice job!
06:52:51 <TimClark> Rascal: op is not all it's cracked up to be
06:52:55 <alpha1beta> he's a new addition
06:53:15 <Rascal> I see
06:53:29 <alpha1beta> well like 3 months ago
06:54:15 <Rascal> Well yeah he's been into this for what like 2, 3 years now?
06:55:53 <alpha1beta> good while
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06:58:23 <pabot> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
06:58:45 <alpha1beta> yo upnPAD, what's going on?
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07:01:05 <rmccue> Woo, netsplit.
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07:03:11 <upnPAD> hey alpha1beta
07:03:13 <upnPAD> nm, you?
07:03:30 <alpha1beta> not a heck of a lot, wasting time here mostly
07:06:01 <upnPAD> mm same
07:11:40 <TimClark> Good night guys, time to sleep
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07:12:51 <alpha1beta> night...
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07:15:06 <excid3> assembly coding is the suck
07:18:43 <alpha1beta> creative writing aka poetry at 2 am is the worse *stuff* possible
07:26:58 <excid3> ugh, samba is awful slow
07:27:07 <excid3> to top it off, transferring over wireless
07:27:12 <excid3> this is full of fail
07:28:36 <alpha1beta> eww
07:28:59 <alpha1beta> I moed 13.5 gigs of photos on wireless today, why? cause I'm stupid and had a lan cord 3 feet away
07:29:21 <alpha1beta> at least it was an N chip/router
07:32:27 <excid3> nice, i dont have wireless n or a router with more than 1 lan port
07:32:30 <excid3> fon+ fails
07:32:42 <alpha1beta> :P
07:33:15 <alpha1beta> I got a netgear N router and a Broadcom N chip, if I were using the G network to move those files, I would have killed myself
07:33:31 <excid3> broadcom is fail too
07:33:43 <alpha1beta> I rather like them
07:33:51 * excid3 hugs his intel 3945 card and his atheros one
07:33:57 <excid3> easy packet injection ftw
07:34:00 <alpha1beta> *smack*
07:34:05 <alpha1beta> intel is a fail
07:34:09 <alpha1beta> atheros rules
07:34:27 <excid3> intel 3945 has worked out of the box since when i first started using linux back when ubuntu feisty was out
07:34:49 <alpha1beta> yea, same with broadcom
07:35:47 <excid3> idk about that...ive seen so many issues with broadcom wireless on ubuntu its not even funny
07:36:38 <alpha1beta> mine worked for quite a while right out of the box, I'm running kubuntu 8.10 with it, only cause it worked out of the box
07:37:28 <alpha1beta> i had issues with suse with it, but the tablet stuff worked, where as kubuntu the tablet stuff hasn't worked yet
07:37:49 <excid3> meh @ kde
07:37:59 <alpha1beta> KDE rulez
07:38:09 <alpha1beta> the only gnome I like is now solaris
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07:38:21 <alpha1beta> ohh fun...NOT
07:38:27 <excid3> we can argue this out later :P
07:38:29 <alpha1beta> hey scriptdaemon
07:38:39 <Scriptdaemon> Hello alpha1beta.
07:38:45 <alpha1beta> assuming I live past tomorrow, we will :P
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07:38:51 <alpha1beta> what's going on?
07:38:55 <excid3|ZzZz> haha, good luck with that alpha1beta ;-)
07:39:05 <Scriptdaemon> Nothing at all.
07:39:09 <alpha1beta> right back at ya, c yas excid3
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07:49:12 <alpha1beta> time to go, night gents!
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07:56:31 <JM> hello
07:56:50 <Rascal> Hello Matthew
07:57:20 <JM> hello ras
07:57:22 <JM> whats up
07:57:42 <Rascal> nothing much
07:57:45 <JM> mk
07:57:52 <JM> weres the elite hackzorS
07:57:53 <JM> ?
07:59:31 <Rascal> there's no elite hackzors
07:59:43 <JM> excuse me guys but since when was microsoft office illegal software?
08:00:41 <Rascal> pirated microsoft office :p
08:00:52 <JM> GF n00b
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08:01:18 <Rascal> yey
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08:17:30 <Rascal> Alright, tell Chris I was here ^^
08:17:33 <Rascal> c'ya
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08:39:36 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
08:39:58 <ChrisMorgan> ARGH! Cody has been slandering me!
08:40:09 * ChrisMorgan reads logs... he he he, I forgot to tell him it was logged ;-)
08:41:39 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta thinks I'm a new addition? I've been involved a fair bit for about a year now, very seriously for the last >6 months
08:43:01 <ChrisMorgan> Don't bother telling me he was here... I know - and I'll get him back tomorrow ;-)
08:43:07 <upnPAD|2> same
08:43:30 <ChrisMorgan> Think "friend" is stretching it a bit - he likes me because I'm a geek, and I mostly tolerate him.
08:43:35 <ChrisMorgan> He's in Y10
08:43:52 <upnPAD|2> im in y10
08:44:03 <upnPAD|2> sif geek
08:44:12 <ChrisMorgan> Well I'm the school geek.
08:44:13 <ChrisMorgan> :D
08:44:16 <upnPAD|2> o lol
08:44:17 <upnPAD|2> how
08:44:22 <ChrisMorgan> Can any of the rest of you boast anything like that?
08:44:47 <ChrisMorgan> ... I'm completely serious, I am. No one else gets even /close/ to me in geekiness :-)
08:45:04 <upnPAD|2> maybe they're a geek
08:45:06 <upnPAD|2> and dont tell anyone
08:45:30 <upnPAD|2> but yeaqh i could boast that
08:45:32 <upnPAD|2> *yeah
08:45:34 <ChrisMorgan> btw, upnPAD, upnPAD|2?
08:45:48 <ChrisMorgan> *sob*
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08:46:19 * ChrisMorgan is recognised throughout the as such, though (insert smug look)
08:46:23 <ChrisMorgan> *throughout the school
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11:41:02 <DaveDixonII> Hey all. :)
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12:50:52 <MaienM|Sleep> hello DaveDixonII
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12:54:10 <pabot> Rewire is the ultimate slacker
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13:03:38 <pabot> Rewire is the ultimate slacker
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13:22:16 <Mir> KABOOOM
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13:28:55 <pabot> Rewire is the ultimate slacker
13:29:19 <Rewire> is anyone in here familiar with Pidgin Portable?
13:30:03 <Rewire> put it this way... is anyone in here... we'll start off with that :-P
13:30:12 <MaienM> I'm in here ;)
13:30:23 <Rewire> lol hi
13:30:55 <MaienM> hello there slacker. ehm, I mean, hello there Rewire
13:31:24 <Rewire> yeah, yeah. :-D
13:31:44 <Rewire> You use Pidgin?
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13:35:26 <Rewire> I am tired of that fucking chair business. Will you please call the office and see if there's some way we can arrange to get that bed frame?
13:35:52 <Rewire> Oh, and I bought a treat for you last night, but forgot to give it to you. Look in the cupboard above the toaster, in the white meijer bag.
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13:36:54 <Rewire> arg..wrong window
13:36:59 <Rewire> sorry guys
13:37:01 <ZachThibeau> morning all
13:37:09 <ZachThibeau> no worries
13:37:11 <ZachThibeau> :P
13:37:23 <MaienM> gmornin ZachThibeau
13:37:37 <ZachThibeau> I'll probably be off an on today guys, Huge Blizzard warning in my area and power may cut out
13:37:40 <Rewire> All stems back to the frackin pidgin issue that I need help with.
13:40:58 <Bensawsome> palogbot: help
13:40:58 <palogbot> I'm a Python IRC logging bot. Source: http://inamidst.com/code/loggy.py Logging to: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=
13:43:11 <MaienM> is it giving any errors?
13:43:23 <MaienM> try to run it from terminal to see if it does :P
13:43:55 <ZachThibeau> MaienM: I'm giving up Ubuntu, and going HARDCORE DEBIAN :D
13:44:31 <MaienM> :P
13:44:44 <MaienM> I like ubuntu myself, no need to go hardcore debian :P
13:44:52 <ZachThibeau> I figured I should go use it now :)
13:46:24 <ZachThibeau> I'm also interested in a making a foobar2000 alternative for linux and windows :D
13:46:54 <ZachThibeau> because my music I compress and foobar2000 lets me play them while they are still zipped archieved
13:50:04 <Rewire> I've got pidgin portable running in XP. I have duplicate contact lists. Not just duplicate contacts, but whole goups. Like a group "work" twice. Both groups have about 20 contacts that are exactly the same, but there are 1 or 2 that arean't in both lists. Is there anyway to delete the files that pidgin has the contact list stored in and force it to get the latest correct contact list from the server? It's across multiple account types too, some ar
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14:01:01 <onestoploser> foobar2000 ftw
14:01:12 <onestoploser> I'm pretty sure it runs with wine
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14:24:22 <chrischu> HI.every one
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14:54:34 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
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14:57:21 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
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14:59:42 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
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15:10:16 <dragonmage> testing this simple irc client Dana, and everytime I attempt to change themes it crashes
15:14:16 <dragonmage> brb
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15:15:34 <dragonmage> can't explain it
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15:53:19 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
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15:54:20 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
15:55:20 <ZachThibeau> howdy dragonmage
15:55:23 <dragonmage> on Miranda now, I think freenode got tired of me reconnecting after crashing dana
15:55:26 <SergentSiler> sup dragonmage
15:55:32 <dragonmage> hey guys
15:56:47 <dragonmage> what's new here?
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15:58:32 <Kyle25> anyone know how to get the icon back if you acidently removed it?
15:59:51 <dragonmage> umm
16:00:12 <dragonmage> the icon?
16:00:28 <ZachThibeau> how did you remove it?
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16:01:19 <Kyle25> when i was trying to pin the flashdrive to the start menu
16:01:42 <ZachThibeau> hmm I don't know :/
16:01:52 <ZachThibeau> what os? Vista or xp
16:02:02 <Kyle25> well that bites
16:02:14 <Kyle25> xp
16:02:20 <ZachThibeau> hmmm...
16:02:29 <ZachThibeau> is the flash drive plugged in?
16:03:44 <Kyle25> yes its just if I go to my computer in to look for something the icon now looks like a unknown file
16:04:19 <ZachThibeau> hmm
16:04:30 <ZachThibeau> go into the flash drive root and look for autorun.inf
16:04:53 <Kyle25> for what the launch pad?
16:05:48 <ZachThibeau> yes and no. that file also provides information for the icon
16:06:24 <Kyle25> i'm trying to get a screen shot so i can show you but it's not letingme
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16:08:24 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
16:09:05 <Kyle25> well I'll try to figure out something then
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16:44:04 <JohnTHaller> hopla
16:44:06 <JohnTHaller> hola
16:44:17 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: FileZilla Portable 3.2.2.1: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-02-23_-_filezilla_portable_3.2.2.1
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16:46:31 <JacobMastel> Morning
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16:46:48 <purple> http://quakelive.com/
16:47:18 <JacobMastel> What is quake?
16:47:41 <purple> :\
16:48:03 <purple> a old 3d FPS ?
16:48:09 <dragonmage> hey jacob
16:48:25 <dragonmage> hey JTH
16:48:32 <JacobMastel> Hi Jeremy how's it going?
16:49:14 <JacobMastel> How's the stickies skins comming?
16:49:33 <dragonmage> http://portableapps.com/node/18203
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16:50:37 <dragonmage> looks a little different now from what is shown in the wink
16:50:47 <JacobMastel> :O
16:50:49 <ZachThibeau> dragonmage: just a question :P do you port forum styles too or just app styles
16:50:59 <Liam> can you add applications not made by portable apps to the portable apps menu
16:51:05 <JacobMastel> Yes
16:51:16 <JacobMastel> Just put the .exe in the right directory
16:51:25 <JacobMastel> Although that doesn't garantee that the app will be portable
16:51:26 <Liam> k cheers
16:51:32 <ZachThibeau> Liam: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
16:51:35 <dragonmage> Haven't learned that yet zach
16:51:37 <Liam> yeah
16:51:43 <Liam> cheerss
16:51:58 <ZachThibeau> Liam: there also on that page should be more information too about the menu :)
16:53:04 <dragonmage> http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02232009114948.png
16:53:29 <dragonmage> here's what the Stickies sidebbar looks like atm
16:53:47 <dragonmage> I may do both versions though
16:53:54 <ZachThibeau> dragonmage: blackbox shell?
16:54:07 <dragonmage> yes
16:54:13 <ZachThibeau> bblean or xoblite?
16:54:14 <ZachThibeau> :P
16:54:21 <ZachThibeau> just out of curiosity sakes
16:54:21 <dragonmage> only thing I can find to portably skin windows
16:54:57 <dragonmage> the bars are made in rainmeter
16:55:37 <dragonmage> eventually it will be completely customizable for end users
16:56:03 <ZachThibeau> but what blackbox port are you using :P bblean, xoblite, name your poison :)
16:56:19 <dragonmage> also skinning other portable apps to fit in the bars
16:56:28 <dragonmage> bblean currently
16:56:31 <ZachThibeau> ahh ok
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16:56:58 <ZachThibeau> I have my prefs for xoblite for stability but I like the bblean skinning capabilities better though
16:57:45 <dragonmage> I have done some Sputnik themed stuff for bbinterface already
16:58:12 <ZachThibeau> cool
16:58:41 <ZachThibeau> I'm almost done my portableapps theme for stylish :)
16:59:17 <ZachThibeau> some css tags I'm having issues trying to modify to use a different color :)
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17:00:50 <pabot> OliverK is liking his days off
17:07:52 <dragonmage> portableapps theme as in a site theme or firefox theme?
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17:17:31 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
17:17:36 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
17:17:40 <JohnTHaller> hi steve
17:17:46 <OliverK> hail steve!
17:19:56 <SteveLamerton> Hi JohnTHaller, OliverK
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17:33:50 <OliverK> gosh are floppies slow . . .
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17:37:56 <SergentSiler> OliverK, you just figuring that out? :P
17:38:33 <OliverK> heh :p, no I knew that, but I have to use one right now :(
17:38:46 <SergentSiler> D:
17:39:05 <SergentSiler> teh sux
17:41:49 <OliverK> boot discs . . .
17:41:53 <OliverK> fun
17:42:04 <SergentSiler> lol
17:43:14 * ZachThibeau is excited that a fellow Thibeau is in power at openid :D
17:43:15 <OliverK> is for the upgradings of nt 3.51 to nt 4.0 to (hopefully) win 98
17:43:35 <SergentSiler> lol
17:48:10 <ZachThibeau> anybody here use stylish?
17:48:16 <ZachThibeau> for firefox?
17:48:18 <OliverK> nope :p
17:48:27 <OliverK> never heard of it . . .
17:48:30 <ZachThibeau> :P
17:48:40 <OliverK> freaking windows meadia player, acting like a puppy dog
17:48:48 <OliverK> can I sync can I sync?
17:48:51 <SergentSiler> ZachThibeau, on occasion i use it :P
17:49:03 <OliverK> if no, pee on person, if yes, poop on them
17:49:04 <SergentSiler> whenever ptmb forces me to test something
17:49:07 * OliverK googles
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17:49:37 <sar3th|linux> hi all
17:50:00 <dragonmage> time to go to work
17:50:19 <dragonmage> later all
17:50:27 <OliverK> by dragonmage
17:50:30 <OliverK> bye*
17:50:30 <SergentSiler> late dragonmage
17:50:34 <SergentSiler> later*
17:50:36 <SergentSiler> XD
17:50:39 <ZachThibeau> SergentSiler: try this :D http://userstyles.org/styles/15301
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17:50:42 <OliverK> SergentSiler: that looks like a neat extension
17:50:48 <SergentSiler> ZachThibeau, kk :P
17:50:54 <ZachThibeau> it's my modified PortableApps.com theme :)
17:50:57 <SergentSiler> OliverK, XD
17:51:03 <ZachThibeau> it's not yet finished though
17:51:08 * SergentSiler has to install stylish on lappie tho
17:51:15 * OliverK likes carbon themes
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17:51:59 <SergentSiler> testing teh theme
17:52:40 <sar3th|linux> does someone in here have knowledge about data recovery?
17:52:51 <SergentSiler> ZachThibeau, whats it supposed to do? :P
17:53:00 <SergentSiler> it looks exactly the same
17:53:27 <onestopyarly> sar3th|linux: The only dr process I use is Ubuntu Live cd to get data from systems that won't boot on their own.
17:54:09 <sar3th|linux> onestopyarly: it's not as simple as that =(
17:54:22 <SergentSiler> sar3th|linux, how so?
17:54:23 <onestopyarly> What's wrong?
17:54:45 <sar3th|linux> long version or short version? ;)
17:54:47 <onestopyarly> Did you delete something important?
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17:54:51 <onestopyarly> Long version
17:54:55 <onestopyarly> Wait
17:54:57 <sar3th|linux> -> ot
17:55:01 <onestopyarly> Cool
17:55:33 <sar3th|linux> hi pa_5889, how can we help you?
17:56:09 <pa_5889> Hello, I'm a simple user of Thundebird portanble. I'm very happy with the function, but now it does not open anymor. The iccon opens, but not mroe
17:57:12 <sar3th|linux> have you tried reinstalling thunderbird portable?
17:57:24 <pa_5889> yes I did
17:57:44 <sar3th|linux> it did not work at all?
17:58:12 <pa_5889> yes it worked very well since yesterday
17:58:37 <pa_5889> makes it a difference when I installed it on a usd HDD??
17:58:53 <sar3th|linux> not really
17:59:15 <pa_5889> in the wondows task-manager it shows that thunderbird is running
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17:59:59 <sar3th|linux> have you tried to reinstall thunderbird again? i mean after it stopped working
18:00:27 <pa_5889> and it uses about 590 000 kb but I can not see it on the screen
18:00:36 <pa_5889> yes
18:00:49 <sar3th|linux> and it still does not work, right?
18:00:54 <pa_5889> yes
18:00:58 <sar3th|linux> okay
18:01:11 <sar3th|linux> did you delete your profile and other data before reinstalling?
18:01:33 <pa_5889> no how do this?
18:01:50 <JohnTHaller> don't delete your profile!
18:01:59 <pa_5889> But I need my data, it is allmy email
18:02:08 <sar3th|linux> yes, i don't want you to delete it
18:02:30 <sar3th|linux> probably something is wrong with it but you should not delete it
18:02:50 <sar3th|linux> 'have you reinstalled tb to another directory?
18:03:10 <pa_5889> is it possible to store my data and then play a little?!?!!?
18:03:22 <sar3th|linux> yes
18:03:26 <pa_5889> no in the sampe directory
18:03:46 <pa_5889> which directory i shall save??
18:03:54 <sar3th|linux> data directory
18:04:07 <sar3th|linux> it contains the data the portableapp stores
18:04:12 <pa_5889> the whole data-directory?
18:04:46 <OliverK> you should copy the data directory to some other location
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18:06:42 <pa_5889> it is 776 mb It copies at the moment
18:07:24 <pa_5889> After this, make a new directory and install to this location??
18:09:03 <sar3th|linux> yes, you should try that
18:09:37 <pa_5889> copy is ready now. I will install to a new location
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18:18:57 <pa_5889> Hello I installed new and copied the data directory ..... and the same fault
18:19:38 <JohnTHaller> did you try running it with the default data directory (no yours) just to be sure it would run?
18:19:45 <pa_5889> one file wass not copied the file thunderbird.... sttings.ini
18:20:26 <pa_5889> I copied the old data directory to the new location
18:21:38 <pa_5889> I have to delete it and try it with the default data directory
18:25:11 <pa_5889> you are right - it runs with the default data-directory
18:25:21 <pa_5889> what shall i do
18:25:51 <JohnTHaller> something in your profile is corrupt and causing the issue. do you have any extensions or other add-ons?
18:26:32 <pa_5889> I think fox-reminder is the only one
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18:27:39 <pa_5889> but it causes such difficities, without any change from one day to the other
18:28:53 <pa_5889> sorry i have the Germany language inserted but it runs in german
18:29:52 <JohnTHaller> are you using the german version of thunderbird portable downloaded from portableapps.com?
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18:30:57 <pa_5889> now at the very beginning it was english and then I found the add on for German and I inserted this acc. the instructions
18:32:41 <pa_5889> ./help
18:33:14 <JohnTHaller> hmm
18:33:42 <JohnTHaller> try starting it in safe mode. to do this, you can copy the ThunderbirdPortable.ini from the ThunderbirdPortable\Other\Source directory to the ThunderbirdPortable directory
18:34:01 <JohnTHaller> Edit it and change the AdditionalSettings line to read AdditionalSettings=-safe-mode
18:37:13 <pa_5889> ther is only a line "additional parameters = ...."
18:38:25 <pa_5889> I will start the old version?!?!?
18:38:53 <JohnTHaller> yeh, sorry, that line. after the =, add: -safe-mode
18:39:09 <JohnTHaller> this will cause thunderbird to start with all your extensions and extra stuff disabled
18:40:14 <pa_5889> I did, but it is the same situation
18:41:23 <JohnTHaller> ok, have you also checked your drive for errors?
18:41:37 <JohnTHaller> and did you have ThunderbirdPortable.ini within the same directory as ThunderbirdPortable.exe?
18:42:38 <pa_5889> no it is in the directory ... other exactly were You described
18:42:48 <JohnTHaller> ok, delete the INI file
18:42:54 <pa_5889> but I will copy it to the this place
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18:42:57 <pabot> Simeon is a Developer at PortableApps.com
18:43:05 <Simeon> Hi all
18:43:27 <JohnTHaller> pa_5889: ok, do what I said and copy the INI from the Other\Source to the ThunderbirdPortable directory
18:44:29 <pa_5889> Yes I did, but now improvement
18:44:55 <pa_5889> hi simon
18:45:48 <JohnTHaller> Ok
18:45:53 <JohnTHaller> It would seem the profile is corrupt
18:46:02 <JohnTHaller> you have a backup of the profile correct?
18:46:26 <pa_5889> yes I have on a unpluged USD
18:46:31 <pa_5889> USB
18:47:27 <JohnTHaller> Ok, as long as you have a backup. Go into your ThunderbirdPortable\Data\profile directory and rename the file prefs.js to prefs.old
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18:48:56 <pa_5889> done
18:49:24 <JohnTHaller> ok, one more thing, did you check task manager to be sure no copies of thunderbird.exe are running?
18:50:53 <pa_5889> Yes I did, now the old version is running, but without any data
18:51:39 <JohnTHaller> where did you store your mail... in the global inbox or in each acct?
18:52:04 <pa_5889> I did not do any change, it stays as it was installed
18:52:30 <pa_5889> in the global acct
18:52:34 <JohnTHaller> it asks you when you set it up
18:52:55 <JohnTHaller> ok, you need to browse into thunderbirdportable\data\profile\mail. what folders do you see
18:53:24 <Simeon> John: One question in between: Do you know that the App compatability page is out of date?
18:53:34 <JohnTHaller> yeah, we're ditching it
18:53:41 <pa_5889> there are my various mail accounts
18:53:56 <pa_5889> what means ditching?
18:53:59 <Simeon> ok
18:54:04 <JohnTHaller> i was answering simeon.
18:54:31 <JohnTHaller> pa_5889: browse into local folders
18:54:53 <JohnTHaller> Simeon: it's pretty pointless. not updated. and not linked from anywhere anymore and hasn't been for a while. not sure why people keep referring to it
18:55:46 <pa_5889> in the mail folder there are only my mail folders for my mail accounts no local
18:55:47 <Simeon> I found it a neat page to get an overview for Wine-compatability for example...
18:56:18 <JohnTHaller> pa_5889: Ok, guess you didn't have a universal inbox then
18:56:34 <pa_5889> yes i think so
18:57:40 <pa_5889> but in the folder mail, there is a file inbox
18:57:47 <JohnTHaller> pa_5889: you'll need to rebuild your profile by manually recreating all your mail accounts within the thunderbird interface. your mail files are still in your old profile, so you can move them into a new profile you setup. mail folders are actual folders within windows and the mail is text-based files.
18:58:01 <JohnTHaller> pa_5889: that may be your inbox then.. open it up and see
18:58:28 <JohnTHaller> pa_5889: am I correct in assuming you have no backups of anything before this issue started... even ones that are a few weeks or months old?
18:59:29 <pa_5889> I was searching for a information to the path were are the mails. I coud not find this information so I did no backup
19:00:02 <pa_5889> for the future I know to store the data directory
19:00:21 <JohnTHaller> no no, I mean before any of this happened. any backups of your portable device (you should always make backups of everything, it's why we bundle a simple backup utility with the portableapps.com platform)
19:01:17 <pa_5889> no I haven't, which tool I shall download
19:01:32 <JohnTHaller> it's a part of the portableapps.com platform (our start menu, etc)
19:01:57 <JohnTHaller> if you had a backup, you could just copy your prefs.js from the backup into your profile and it'd work again
19:02:25 <JohnTHaller> since you don't, you'll need to recreate your accounts, which won't take too long. you can then move your email in from the old profile to the new one
19:02:58 <JohnTHaller> complete details are on a webpage. ignore stuff about the profilemanager and profiles.ini since that applies to the local version. your old profile will be your backup and your new profile will be the new one you create. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recovering_a_profile_that_suddenly_disappeared#Corrupt_or_empty_prefs.js
19:03:09 <JohnTHaller> actually, this link, sorry: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recovering_a_profile_that_suddenly_disappeared
19:03:29 <pa_5889> But now I have to create the account new, I think that's only a problem of time. but how to get the mails back
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19:04:16 <JohnTHaller> read the page. the emails are still there. thunderbird stores all email in text files. that's why your profile is huge, they're all in there. if you used the universal inbox, they're probably in data\profiles\mail\
19:04:18 <JohnTHaller> inbox
19:04:25 <JohnTHaller> if not, they'
19:04:57 <JohnTHaller> if not, they're in data\profile\mail\mail.server.name for each account
19:05:49 <JohnTHaller> the file names without extentsions are the actual emails. the file names that have a .msf extension are indexing files used by thunderbird. you should be able to keep them both (which will avoid deleted emails showing up again)
19:10:00 <pa_5889> Ok John, many thnaks for your help. I will do it according the instructions. If there are more problems now I know were to got
19:10:30 <JohnTHaller> You're welcome. I've had it happen before on my local install. Not fun, but you don't lose much other than time. Now I do backups :-)
19:11:24 <pa_5889> I think at the moment I' guest, how to come from guest to "member" pa_5889??
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19:12:24 <JohnTHaller> You can set your nickname yourself. If you plan to be on IRC more often, you can register a nickname at freenode
19:13:06 <pa_5889> ok thank you, were are you from?
19:13:19 <pa_5889> I'm from the south of Germyna
19:13:20 <JohnTHaller> new york city
19:13:34 <JohnTHaller> i have extended family in germany somewhere
19:13:51 <pa_5889> also in the south
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19:14:24 <Simeon> wo genau in Deutschland? :)
19:14:37 <pa_5889> Kennen Sie Stuttgart
19:14:44 <Simeon> da wohn ich :)
19:15:15 <Simeon> is ja witzig...
19:15:26 <pa_5889> Ich wohne auf der Schwäbischen Alb südlich von Aalen nördlich von Ulm
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19:15:58 <pa_5889> John once more thank you for your help, have a nice day!!!
19:17:41 <pa_5889> Ich habe noch einen Termin, ich muss gehen, Kennen Sie Aalen
19:17:55 <JohnTHaller> sure thing. have a good one
19:18:43 <pa_5889> bye bye all together
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19:28:24 <OliverK> JohnTHaller, I'm trying to get this driver installation working. Do you hve any advice on the plugin? http://nsis.sourceforge.net/InstDrv_plug-in
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19:28:54 <OliverK> I need to figure out devClass drvHWID
19:28:54 <OliverK> for the plugin, I haven't found anything via google
19:31:04 <JohnTHaller> the vbox service driver doesn't have a hwid
19:31:38 <JohnTHaller> class is this i think: http://www.usb.org/developers/defined_class
19:32:20 <Simeon> Bye all& have a nice Day!
19:32:29 <JohnTHaller> see ya simeon
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19:33:07 <OliverK> we generally support 64 bit, correct?
19:33:11 <sar3th|linux> simeon is german? :D nice
19:35:38 <Bensawsome> lol 64 bit XD
19:35:41 <JohnTHaller> i don't think nsis can install 64bit drivers
19:35:44 <OliverK> i sorta sprechen Deutsch (courtsey Google) (i sorta speak german (courtsey google))
19:36:41 <OliverK> so, now i need to check if its 64 bit. actually, I should probably be checking if its 64 bit anyway
19:36:59 <JohnTHaller> yea
19:37:56 <OliverK> this is gonna git long and comglomerated :(
19:37:57
19:37:57 <OliverK> oh well
19:38:09 <OliverK> say it again :p
19:38:12 <sar3th|linux> hilarious that some people in here do speak german
19:38:44 <OliverK> ah
19:38:56 <SergentSiler> i need to learn german :/
19:38:57 <ZachThibeau> sprachen sie Deutch nien sprachen sie Englich
19:38:57 <OliverK> i have translation script for xchat that I wrote.
19:39:12 <OliverK> no sprechan anything but english
19:39:43 <onestoploser> I need to learn Spanish.
19:39:51 <onestoploser> I know some, but not enough.
19:40:02 <OliverK> i can find the bathroom, that's all I need
19:40:09 <onestoploser> lmao
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19:40:38 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :D
19:40:52 * SergentSiler nein sprachen sie Deutch :P
19:40:58 <SergentSiler> hi TimClark
19:40:59 <TimClark> Hello All :D
19:41:13 <SergentSiler> PAppsian FTW
19:41:22 <sar3th|linux> hi TimClark
19:41:23 <onestoploser> Hi TimClark
19:41:41 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: you were not mistaken, Ed_P was just being an ass, he was just able to recover nicely :-(
19:41:47 <TimClark> http://portableapps.com/node/17954#comment-112212
19:42:16 <TimClark> SergentSiler: sar3th|linux onestoploser , ty
19:42:22 <OliverK> howdy TimClark
19:42:51 <ZachThibeau> howdy TimClark
19:43:13 <TimClark> OliverK: and ZachThibeau , :D
19:43:26 <ZachThibeau> :)
19:44:15 <onestoploser> Get Debian running ZachThibeau?
19:44:27 <ZachThibeau> not yet
19:44:37 <ZachThibeau> seems my 250gig hard drive is malfunction
19:44:41 <ZachThibeau> ing
19:44:46 <onestoploser> D:
19:44:52 <SergentSiler> im watching Stephen Colbert and let me tell you i just lost my appetite
19:44:55 <TimClark> So has anyone actually gone and listened to the "PAppsian/Australian" song, it's very beautiful ? :D
19:44:56 <ZachThibeau> I'm using my 80gig hard drive now that I used to have it in
19:45:09 <onestoploser> TimClark: What?
19:45:48 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: is there a standard message to use saying that the architecture isn't supported? I wanht to avoid making up strings to translate
19:46:07 <JohnTHaller> OliverK: Nope, not right now
19:46:22 <JohnTHaller> OliverK: Actually, it seems you can do some 64bit stuff in NSIS. I don't know about driver installs, though.
19:46:32 <TimClark> onestoploser: sorry, you were not here, My .def is a quote from the song I Am/We are Australian by the seekers
19:47:12 <OliverK> most 32 will run on 64 bit. The driver plugin doesn't support 64 bit architecture. Also, there is a seperate package for 64 bit machines.
19:47:24 <OliverK> 64 bit machines also seem pretty rare in "the wild"
19:48:15 <JohnTHaller> they are. if you want to get creative later, you can package a short 64bit installer/uninstaller within the 32bit launcher
19:48:16 <sar3th|linux> having a x64 processor running with x32 windows is not rare ;)
19:48:27 <SergentSiler> true dat
19:48:58 <OliverK> sar3th|linux: i have one of those, but it still counts as a 32 bit machine.
19:49:06 <OliverK> I have it running 64 bit linux though :D
19:49:15 <sar3th|linux> me too xD
19:49:29 <OliverK> amd turion :D
19:49:35 <OliverK> tis laptops my bab :D
19:49:45 <ZachThibeau> bab? you mean babe?
19:49:55 <SergentSiler> XD
19:49:56 <OliverK> nope, baby :D
19:50:26 <OliverK> .o twitter oliverkrystal
19:50:30 <pabot> <@oliverkrystal> i want another brownie! (http://twitter.com/oliverkrystal/statuses/1242031397)
19:50:46 * SergentSiler gives OliverK a brownie
19:51:12 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: I'll have to work on the 64 bit support later. I think it will get extremely messy. I'll also have to have different method of dealing with the driver
19:51:17 <OliverK> SergentSiler: thanks
19:51:21 <SergentSiler> :)
19:52:41 <JohnTHaller> yeah, leave it til later
20:01:49 <OliverK> sweetness, i just found something that should work :D http://www.dashken.net/index.php?/archives/244-Install-INF-Drivers-From-Command-Line-or-Script.html
20:02:55 <JohnTHaller> OliverK: what about removal?
20:03:12 <sar3th|linux> it's funny, my gf had a new pc (quadcore) last year
20:03:19 <sar3th|linux> it came with vista home premium
20:03:22 <sar3th|linux> x32!!
20:03:29 <JohnTHaller> yeah, and?
20:03:44 <JohnTHaller> my new qudcore had vista 64 on it. i uninstalled it and installed vista 32
20:03:49 <sar3th|linux> why?
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20:03:50 <Bensawsome> :/
20:04:09 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: shoot :(
20:04:12 <JohnTHaller> 32bit apps run slower on 64bit than on 32bit. everything i run is 32bit with the exception of photoshop which i don't use much
20:04:32 <JohnTHaller> and i have a few unsigned drivers i like to use (can't use em in vista 64)
20:05:15 <OliverK> oh, I should be able to use the unreg switch, I think . . .
20:05:16 <sar3th|linux> but if you have a complete pc from hp with 4gb ram, you'd expect it to have 64bit os
20:05:18 * OliverK tries
20:05:50 <JohnTHaller> maybe they were still using 32bit due to 64bit issues
20:06:15 <sar3th|linux> could be
20:06:27 <sar3th|linux> they put a 64bit dvd in, just in case
20:06:44 <JohnTHaller> makes sense
20:07:01 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: 10 releases in 2 weeks, Way to go Man!!! :D
20:08:04 <JohnTHaller> been busy
20:08:27 <TimClark> Yes, i see :)
20:09:06 <JohnTHaller> working on the 1.2 platform at the moment
20:09:26 <TimClark> shussshhh ;)
20:09:35 <OliverK> hooray!
20:09:48 <Bensawsome> nice JohnTHaller :D
20:10:08 <TimClark> Don't Jinx it :O
20:10:33 <onestoploser> I hear that.
20:10:51 <onestoploser> Everyone's been waiting patiently for it to be released.
20:10:59 <onestoploser> DEFINITELY don't jinx it.
20:11:03 <onestoploser> ;)
20:11:07 <TimClark> oh, yeah , right :(
20:12:09 <JohnTHaller> it's not everything everyone is waiting for (no categories/uninstaller/truecrypt integration/etc) but it's a definite step up (rename/hide/autostart/portable fonts/better simple themes/etc)
20:12:32 <ZachThibeau> :)
20:12:33 <OliverK> cached icons?
20:12:39 <OliverK> and hooray for the fonts
20:12:59 <JohnTHaller> no cache neceesary for PAF apps (it uses appicon.ico). cached for others
20:14:51 <OliverK> sweetness :D
20:15:00 <ZachThibeau> awesome
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20:19:30 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: do you think this post needs a reply from you, given the comments ? "PaGoDump" http://portableapps.com/node/18211
20:20:51 <JohnTHaller> nah. it's up in the air which freeware we'll be actually listing at the moment. probably only the more poular stuff first
20:21:03 <sb-2009> i need to download the apps for thunderbird. does anyone know if i show load it to my computer or thumbdrive directly?
20:21:23 <JohnTHaller> sb-2009: download to your desktop first. it's faster than flash
20:21:36 <JohnTHaller> then run the installer and install to your drive
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20:22:16 <sb-2009> thanks, can i then get all of my information onto my thumbdrive with security cerst as well?
20:23:21 <JohnTHaller> security certs?
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20:24:21 <Bensawsome> hmmm maybe he meant security certificates?
20:24:30 <Bensawsome> well its too late now :/
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20:27:00 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
20:28:13 <Bensawsome> why hello KevinPorter ^_^
20:28:20 <KevinPorter> Afternoon Bensawsome. :)
20:28:54 <TimClark> HI KevinPorter :D
20:28:58 <OliverK> howdy KevinPorter
20:29:19 <KevinPorter> Hi TimClark, OliverK. :)
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20:29:57 <pa_4082> anyone there
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20:30:20 <PatrickPatience> Yessir.
20:30:36 <TimClark> welcome pa_4082 , ask your question :)
20:30:41 <pa_3064> help!
20:30:41 <pabot> pa_3064: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
20:31:29 <pa_3064> hi to all some one can help me please?
20:31:43 <pa_4082> i got cut off last time. I need to find how i can get my thunderbird onto a thumbdrive and then transfer all of the apps from my computer to my thumbdrive
20:31:57 <PatrickPatience> pa_3064: Go ahead with your question.
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20:32:27 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: You mean using Thunderbird Portable?
20:33:05 <pa_4082> how can i get thunderbid from my computer onto a thumbderive with all of my settings including my security certs.
20:33:30 <pa_4082> yes by using the thunderbird portable
20:33:48 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Happen to know if your computer is set to show hidden files?
20:33:59 <pa_4082> i think so
20:34:11 <PatrickPatience> Alright, open Windows Explorer.
20:34:27 <PatrickPatience> Go to C:\Documents and Settings\[Your Username]\Application Data\Thunderbird
20:34:34 <pa_4082> do i install thunderbird portable onto my thumbdrive?
20:34:46 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Yes.
20:35:31 <pa_3064> I configure my Thunderbird Portable to get my gmail e-mails and I check the box to stay the mail server's copy on the server but when I dowload mail the server's mail are clear ...sigh!
20:36:02 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Happen to know if you're using POP or IMAP?
20:36:16 <PatrickPatience> Oops.
20:36:16 <pa_4082> don't know
20:36:19 <PatrickPatience> I mean pa_3064, sorry.
20:36:31 <pa_3064> POP
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20:37:26 <PatrickPatience> pa_3064: And within Thunderbird it's configured to leave a copy on the server?
20:37:38 <pa_3064> sure ... :(
20:38:02 <pa_4082> sorry idont get it
20:38:28 <pa_4082> i think i have to pull the info from firefox right?
20:38:51 <PatrickPatience> Sorry guys, could I get you to both type "/nick MyNewNickName" without the quotes, using a nicknam of your choice.
20:38:56 <PatrickPatience> Just to make it easier to address you.
20:39:50 <PatrickPatience> pa_3064: From within Thundebird, go to Tools -> Account Settings from the menubar.
20:40:01 <pa_4082> ok
20:40:03 <PatrickPatience> Under the account you have set up, go to "Server Settings"
20:40:38 <PatrickPatience> pa_3064: And then under the "Server Settings" area, make sure "Leave messages on server" is checked.
20:41:25 <pa_3064> I'm sure ... try and try more time
20:41:34 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Let me know when Thunderbird Portable is installed.
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20:42:02 <pa_4082> onto my computer or my thumbdrive?
20:42:14 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Onto your flash drive.
20:42:21 <pa_4082> ok
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20:43:44 <pa_4082> ok it is on
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20:44:07 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Okay, so open Windows Explorer (My Computer).
20:44:11 <TimClark> pa_4082: could you please change your name, type this /nick yournewname
20:44:32 <pa_4082> ok
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20:45:24 <Marco11111> ok change nick ...sorry
20:45:35 <PatrickPatience> Marco11111: Thanks.
20:45:44 <PatrickPatience> Marco11111: So you checked that setting?
20:45:58 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Let me know when you've got Windows Explorer open.
20:46:06 <Marco11111> I'm sure ... try and try more time : sure "Leave messages on server" is checked
20:46:11 <pa_4082> it is open
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20:47:07 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: So first off, just run Thunderbird Portable once, cancel any account setup bozes and such.
20:47:22 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Then close Thunderbird Portable.
20:47:53 <PatrickPatience> Marco11111: Alright, there might be a Gmail setting, give me a second.
20:48:09 <Marco11111> thanx a lot
20:48:44 <pa_4082> ok give me a minute this is an old computer
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20:49:24 <pa_4082> it is asking for my account settings. Should i close now?
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20:49:57 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Close that window, then close Thunderbird compltely.
20:50:44 <pa_4082> ok done
20:50:55 <PatrickPatience> Marco11111: Sorry man, give me a minute. Gmail is running slow for me.
20:51:05 <pa_4082> no prob
20:51:18 <Marco11111> I must go to home and close chat ... but I return in 15-20 minute ... are you still here?
20:51:26 <PatrickPatience> Marco11111: Yep.
20:51:37 <PatrickPatience> Sorry, I hope to have the answer when you return. :-)
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20:51:45 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Okay, so in Windows Explorer navigate to C:\Documents and Settings\[Your Username]\Application Data\Thunderbird
20:51:55 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Let me know if you can't see any of those folders.
20:52:15 <Marco11111> thanx Patrick ..see you later bye ^_^
20:52:38 <pa_4082> how do i find that
20:53:03 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Through Windows Explorer (my computer).
20:53:06 <PatrickPatience> Those are all just folder nae.
20:53:08 <PatrickPatience> *names
20:53:13 <PatrickPatience> So start by going to the C: drive.
20:53:19 <Marco11111> ok Patrik? seeyou later?
20:53:33 <PatrickPatience> Marco11111: I found the setting, if you wanna check now.
20:53:39 <PatrickPatience> If you have to run, I should be here.
20:53:52 <pa_4082> i see thunderbird folder
20:54:04 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Okay, and you see a "Profiles" folder?
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20:54:49 <pa_4082> no
20:54:57 <PatrickPatience> What do you see?
20:55:07 <PatrickPatience> Did you go to that folder I said up there?
20:55:07 <pa_4082> i found it
20:55:12 <PatrickPatience> Oh, kay.
20:55:26 <PatrickPatience> And within the "Profiles' folder there's some oddly named folder like sdgdfgd.default, yeah?
20:56:02 <pa_4082> no just prefs.js
20:56:37 <PatrickPatience> There's a bunch of other files in there, or no?
20:57:11 <pa_4082> localstore.rdf and mimetype
20:57:29 <PatrickPatience> Those are the only files in there?
20:57:35 <pa_4082> yep
20:58:00 <PatrickPatience> What's the name of the folder you're in, "Profiles"?
20:58:36 <pa_4082> default then profiles
20:59:03 <PatrickPatience> Those are the folder names?
20:59:08 <pa_4082> yes
20:59:11 <PatrickPatience> If so, go into the "Default" folder.
20:59:19 <PatrickPatience> Or, "default" as you said.
20:59:27 <pa_4082> ok
20:59:39 <PatrickPatience> And in there is there a bunch of files and a few folders?
21:00:00 <pa_4082> yes
21:00:22 <pa_4082> autoconfig, pref messenger and profile
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21:01:47 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Hmm, that doesn't sounds like the right directory.
21:01:55 <PatrickPatience> Is there a "Mail" folder in there.
21:01:57 <pa_9906> how can i change the theme of the manager
21:02:10 <pa_4082> let me see
21:02:14 <PatrickPatience> pa_9906: For what program? The menu?
21:02:29 <pa_9906> es
21:02:36 <pa_9906> *yer
21:02:40 <pa_9906> *yes
21:02:41 <PatrickPatience> Like the themes of the whole menu?
21:02:47 <pa_9906> yes
21:02:54 <PatrickPatience> pa_9906: Head on over to http://ptc.kain-planet.de
21:03:05 <PatrickPatience> They have a fairly thorough tutorial.
21:03:12 <pa_9906> any more?
21:03:29 <PatrickPatience> Nope. They have a tutorial and a BUNCH of great themes.
21:03:44 <PatrickPatience> Many are for an unsupported modification of the menu, however.
21:04:13 <pa_4082> what now
21:04:49 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: There was no "Mail" folder? Or a "prefs.js" file in the default folder?
21:05:41 <pa_4082> i will try to find it. once i do hen what
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21:05:49 <pabot> OliverK is liking his days off
21:06:50 <PatrickPatience> Just copy all the contents of the folder that contains files like prefs.js and likely a "Mail" folder to X:\PortableApps\ThunderbirdPortable\Data\settings\profile
21:07:02 <pa_4082> all i see is mailviews.dat
21:07:45 <PatrickPatience> I have a plan.
21:07:48 *** McSamurai is now known as onestoploser
21:08:24 <PatrickPatience> From the initial "Thunderbird" folder you entered (couple directories up) use the Windows Explorer search function to search for "INBOX.msf"
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21:09:51 <pabot> Roamer is one of the Linux geeks that are found here from time to time.
21:10:04 <pa_4082> ok what am i supposed to see
21:10:38 <PatrickPatience> Tell me if it fines a file named INBOX.msf
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21:16:55 <pa_4082> i think that i am searching in the wrong place. in the c drive?
21:17:13 <PatrickPatience> Yeah.
21:17:38 <pa_4082> ok
21:17:43 <PatrickPatience> Namely, C:\Documents and Settings\[YOUR USERNAME]\Application Data\Thunderbird
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21:19:52 <pa_1621> how can i give feedbck to make your product better
21:19:53 <pa_1621> ?
21:20:07 <PatrickPatience> pa_1621: On what components / programs specifically.
21:20:24 <pa_1621> not programs o the menu
21:20:25 <PatrickPatience> Here is a good place, but depending on the content / ideas, the forums may be a better call.
21:20:37 <pa_4082> my computer just stopped
21:20:40 <PatrickPatience> What suggestions did you have (in brief)
21:20:50 <PatrickPatience> pa_4082: Stopped searching?
21:21:09 <pa_4082> thanks anyways, it shut down
21:21:20 <pa_1621> that iinstead of asking us to what you want to do in autorun it should just start the menu itself
21:21:30 <TimClark> pa_1621: please stand by
21:21:44 <PatrickPatience> TimClark: You on that?
21:21:50 <TimClark> yes
21:21:56 <PatrickPatience> Thanks.
21:22:54 <TimClark> pa_1621: That is a function of Windows itself, we have no control of it, it does not allow the menu to run unattended, it must ask you what to do
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21:23:10 <PatrickPatience> Meh, that works for me.
21:23:29 <onestoploser> lmao
21:23:31 <PatrickPatience> How did it shut-down. :-(
21:23:56 <pa_1621> but dont others just start automatically like U3
21:24:09 <TimClark> We do have program you can put on your own machines in advance that will make it work, but not for other machines you might come accross
21:24:28 <onestoploser> U3 is a whole different breed of animal.
21:24:36 <TimClark> pa_1621: U3 uses special hardware tricks, that are built into the dirve
21:24:43 <pa_1621> ohhhhhhhhhhh
21:24:46 <TimClark> onestoploser: stop, background please
21:24:46 <pa_1621> ok
21:24:51 *** JohnTHaller|away is now known as JohnTHaller
21:24:56 <JohnTHaller> Oh fun...
21:25:14 <JohnTHaller> Keep in mind that U3's autorun doesn't work on Vista or Windows 7 or future Windows versions.
21:25:30 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: do you have a link to our autostarter
21:25:33 <JohnTHaller> Nor will it work on most public, corporate and school PCs that have autorun disabled for security reasons.
21:26:36 <JohnTHaller> you can have it run automatically on your own PC by installing a helper app. it's not quite done, but we have a couple test releases here for the technically minded: http://portableapps.com/node/13770
21:26:47 <pa_1621> ok
21:27:01 <TimClark> ty JohnTHaller , pa_1621 that is the one I meant
21:27:27 <pa_1621> will it damage my pc being incomplete
21:28:00 <TimClark> unlikely, but in the meantime you could just start the menu from the windows popup
21:28:11 <JohnTHaller> pa_1621: Nope. I call it incomplete because it's a little bigger than it should be, doesn't yet automatically hide the autoplay selection window (you can hold shift when inserting your drive to) and doesn't have an installer/uninstaller yet
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21:28:51 <JohnTHaller> (you have to manually copy the 2nd no interface EXE linked to your hard drive and set it to run on start on your pc at the moment)
21:31:34 <pa_1621> when do you think that it can be run from multiple comps
21:32:14 <JohnTHaller> pa_1621: The helper must be installed on each PC. It's a local helper app. Autorun is being killed entirely due to security issues (like the Sony rootkit installer on audio CD fiasco)
21:32:40 <JohnTHaller> Not even CDROMs will autorun anymore on Vista or Windows 7
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21:35:27 <pa_1621> ok thanks bye
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21:38:14 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: if i can get JacobMastel permission, can i just delete his comment [and there fore the follow ups] in the spam topic [i.e. deaf/bind comments] ?
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21:45:07 <JohnTHaller> i think it's ok to l;eave it
21:45:10 <sar3th|linux> hello MGhany
21:45:13 <TimClark> ok
21:45:44 <MGhany> hi ppl
21:46:33 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Service_Control_Manager_plugin_(install_services_and_drivers_on_NT/2K/XP)
21:46:47 <OliverK> aw, shucks, no vista support
21:47:00 <JohnTHaller> we had this discussion, OliverK :-P
21:47:09 <OliverK> i don't know what to use!
21:47:37 <OliverK> i guess I just have to try the inst_drv, but I don't think I can use it, cause the vbox drivers have no guidi or hwid
21:48:11 <JohnTHaller> try this? http://nsis.sourceforge.net/NSIS_Service_Lib
21:49:22 <JohnTHaller> and this looks like it works on vista, to: http://nsis.sourceforge.net/NSIS_Simple_Service_Plugin
21:49:27 <JohnTHaller> alright... need foos
21:49:29 <JohnTHaller> foods
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21:49:38 <sar3th|linux> foo!
21:52:39 <OliverK> well . . .
21:52:45 <OliverK> after all that, the fool thing worked!
21:52:49 * OliverK curses
21:52:56 <SergentSiler> lol
21:53:44 <TimClark> Hey, somethimes you need "foos" as well :)
21:54:12 <sar3th|linux> i assume you meant "fools", TimClark
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21:57:30 <TimClark> sar3th|linux: nope, foos, don't you need foos once in a while "P
21:57:45 <TimClark> :P
21:57:56 <sar3th|linux> i do ^^
21:58:14 <sar3th|linux> just had a friend send me one via email 10 min ago :-D
21:58:52 <OliverK> back later
21:59:03 <sar3th|linux> ok
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22:13:44 *** KevinPorter|away is now known as KevinPorter
22:14:45 <TimClark> WB KevinPorter :D
22:14:54 *** MGhany has quit ("Leaving.")
22:14:55 <KevinPorter> Thank you TimClark. :)
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22:15:37 <pabot> OliverK is liking his days off
22:17:52 <sar3th|linux> wb OliverK
22:18:02 <OliverK> thanks
22:18:48 <Mir> TimClark: you mean like as in FooBar?
22:19:50 <TimClark> We sorry, that topic has expired, please choose a current topic :P
22:20:18 <sar3th|linux> current topics: {}
22:20:37 <sar3th|linux> now choose our destiny!
22:22:47 <SergentSiler> :P
22:23:28 * Mir says <censored> this than it are be dead. i am gonna bleed my eyes out
22:23:43 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau
22:23:44 <Mir> *Chan
22:23:47 <SergentSiler> XD
22:23:50 <ZachThibeau> back y'all
22:23:58 <Mir> W00T
22:24:05 <SergentSiler> w00t!
22:24:11 <Mir> wut?
22:24:20 <TimClark> Guys, -ot please
22:24:26 <Mir> :|
22:25:30 <ZachThibeau> what no welcome back :O
22:25:33 <sar3th|linux> wb ZachThibeau
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22:25:38 <ZachThibeau> ty sar3th|linux :P
22:25:42 <sar3th|linux> been afk myself ;)
22:25:54 <ZachThibeau> joking btw you guys about no welcome back :P
22:28:15 <SergentSiler> OMG
22:28:19 <SergentSiler> chanserv died again
22:28:29 <Mir> what do you think the w00t was for!
22:28:30 <SergentSiler> nm, its back
22:28:35 <SergentSiler> :P
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22:29:22 <SergentSiler> well now that it has done it twice i think the netsplit is back on
22:30:47 * TimClark stocks up on food, water, and portableapps :O
22:30:58 * SergentSiler helps TimClark
22:31:09 <SergentSiler> i stocked up already
22:31:23 * KevinPorter is always stocked up.
22:31:38 <SergentSiler> lol
22:31:47 <TimClark> you are such good PAppsians :D
22:31:49 <ZachThibeau> I think I've been lied too. the person that sold me my laptop said it was a 32bit processor which I requested. seems that it's a 64bit processor running a 32bit Operating system :/
22:31:59 <SergentSiler> lol
22:32:03 <DaveDixonII> Hnag on people...... My friend is like annoying me for help
22:32:04 <KevinPorter> ZachThibeau: All the better.
22:32:05 <SergentSiler> TimClark, you are too
22:32:12 <ZachThibeau> KevinPorter: no not for me
22:32:18 <KevinPorter> Why?
22:32:19 <ZachThibeau> 64bit isn't stable enough for me
22:32:42 <KevinPorter> But you can use a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit processor if the 64-bit OS isn't stable enough.
22:33:24 <ZachThibeau> I still don't like the idea though
22:33:30 <KevinPorter> Lol.
22:33:40 <KevinPorter> Ubuntu 64-bit is extremely stable. At least for me.
22:33:55 <SergentSiler> 32Bit FTW 4 me
22:34:03 <SergentSiler> i has no 64bit procs :(
22:38:23 <sar3th|linux> lolo
22:38:55 <sar3th|linux> xp x32 < 7 x64 < any linux x64
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22:47:18 <sar3th|linux> nothing going on...
22:47:37 <TimClark> nope
22:48:51 <ZachThibeau> I'm still waiting for excid3 to speak on his channel :/ I need help with his app keryx
22:49:39 <KevinPorter> ZachThibeau: What's the problem?
22:50:21 <ZachThibeau> trying to get the specs on the project file system as debian doesn't like wxwidgets for python and won't run the linux version of keryx
22:50:59 <ZachThibeau> I need updates for debian as my wireless for my desktop isn't working with it
22:52:00 <KevinPorter> Make sure you install these packages: python-wxversion, python-wxgtk2.8, libwxgtk2.8-0, libwxbase2.8-0
22:52:30 <ZachThibeau> damn thing is that I did :S and I'm still getting a python import error :O
22:52:44 <KevinPorter> :|
22:53:05 <ZachThibeau> so I am creating a project manually to pull the updates in windows and manually install them in debian
22:53:47 <ZachThibeau> and I need those updates so I can compile my drivers for my wifi card
23:02:51 <OliverK> time to go home guys
23:02:55 <OliverK> laters
23:03:07 <ZachThibeau> later OliverK
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23:03:53 <TimClark> Ooooo, sushi :P
23:05:22 <sar3th|linux> raw
23:08:57 <ZachThibeau> :P
23:09:20 <sar3th|linux> or maby rawr? :D
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23:20:33 <JacobMastel> Hey sorry for my sudden drop earlier. They're working on the lines next to my house and failed to tell me my electricity would go down for a while
23:21:00 <ZachThibeau> ouch
23:21:24 <JacobMastel> Thank god for a 3 hour battery backup on my computer.
23:21:27 <ZachThibeau> well I'm glad to say the power didn't go off at all :)
23:21:32 <ZachThibeau> for me that is
23:21:52 <ZachThibeau> huge blizzard. I was afraid it would go off but it didn't :D
23:22:23 <JacobMastel> Nice
23:23:09 <ZachThibeau> here is my house during the blizzard http://zachthibeau.com/image/image/snowstorm.png
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23:48:23 <daBomb69> hello pa_1247, how can we help you today?
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23:50:26 <SergentSiler> lol
23:50:29 <SergentSiler> he stayed long :P
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