IRC Log from 2009-02-27
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00:11:34 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :D
00:11:50 <daBomb69> hello TimClark
00:11:58 <TimClark> Hello fellow p-appsians :D
00:12:10 * dbdii407 falls out of chair out of reading
00:12:19 * daBomb69 sighs
00:12:30 * dbdii407 falls out of chair after reading*
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00:27:21 <TimClark> Hello Gizmokid2005 and KevinPorter :D
00:27:31 <KevinPorter> Evenin' TimClark. :)
00:27:59 <KevinPorter> daBomb69: About the portable P2P software, check out the Frostwire Portable and Deluge Portable betas.
00:28:12 <KevinPorter> .pa deluge portable
00:28:17 <pabot> KevinPorter: Deluge Portable 0.5.8.7 Development Test 1 (BitTorrent Client) - http://portableapps.com/node/12115
00:28:25 <daBomb69> thanks
00:28:28 <KevinPorter> .pa frostwire portable
00:28:30 * dbdii407 has a question for you all
00:28:31 <pabot> KevinPorter: FrostWire Portable 4.17.2 DevTest 1 - http://portableapps.com/node/11822
00:28:48 * KevinPorter has answers.
00:28:51 <dbdii407> If duck one crosses the road while duck two runs in circles how many eggs does duck one hatch?
00:29:05 <daBomb69> none?
00:29:11 <dbdii407> Nope
00:29:13 <KevinPorter> One.
00:29:19 <dbdii407> Winner! :D
00:29:27 * daBomb69 is confused
00:29:27 <KevinPorter> Lol.
00:29:40 <dbdii407> He gets scared by the car and $h&t's an egg. :D
00:29:50 <daBomb69> oh
00:29:52 <daBomb69> lol
00:30:08 <KevinPorter> Duh! :P
00:30:12 * KevinPorter kids.
00:30:33 <TimClark> what a great topic for -ot ;)
00:30:56 <KevinPorter> Good observation TimClark. ;)
00:30:57 <dbdii407> TimClark: The great topic took a poop. Sorry. ;)
00:31:57 <daBomb69> Deluge Portable 's DL is dead
00:32:39 <KevinPorter> Hmm. Then take a look at this.
00:32:42 <KevinPorter> .pa utorrent portable
00:32:45 <pabot> KevinPorter: HOWTO: uTorrent - Portable App and Settings - http://portableapps.com/node/1225
00:32:51 <KevinPorter> Not what I wanted.
00:32:55 <KevinPorter> Hang on.
00:33:05 <TimClark> Fail, as usual
00:33:12 <TimClark> :P
00:33:27 <KevinPorter> :P
00:33:33 <KevinPorter> daBomb69: Here you go. http://portableapps.com/node/13373
00:33:39 <daBomb69> thnx
00:33:39 <dbdii407> <KevinPorter> I hate bots
00:33:57 <KevinPorter> Yes, I hate bots terribly.
00:34:00 <KevinPorter> :P
00:34:04 <daBomb69> PatrickPatience isn't online, is he?
00:34:17 <dbdii407> PatrickP + Away
00:34:18 <dbdii407> :P
00:34:20 <TimClark> online, yes, here no
00:34:26 <daBomb69> ok then
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00:49:22 <daBomb69> PatrickPatience: R u back, and not away any longer?
00:50:12 <PatrickPatience> "PatrickP|Away is now known as PatrickPatience"
00:50:31 <daBomb69> i'll take that as a yes
00:51:02 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: daduh :P
00:51:46 * daBomb69 finally realizes the obvious
00:52:02 <Gizmokid2005> 'bout time :P
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00:57:24 <PatrickPatience> Now watch this.
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00:58:05 <Gizmokid2005> =-O
00:58:06 <Gizmokid2005> oh noes1
00:58:08 <Gizmokid2005> *1
00:58:14 <Gizmokid2005> rawr!!! ***~!
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01:20:52 <JacobMastel> It's boring in here :P :\
01:21:12 <daBomb69> hello JacobMastel, how goes things?
01:21:14 <KevinPorter> Tends to be that way.
01:21:20 <JacobMastel> Not bad
01:21:25 <JacobMastel> I thought you were gonna change your nick :P
01:21:56 <JacobMastel> KevinPorter: You are a mod in the forums correct?
01:22:05 <KevinPorter> No, I'm not.
01:22:17 <JacobMastel> :-\
01:22:22 <KevinPorter> Lol.
01:22:33 <JacobMastel> PatrickP|Away are you there or are you fake away?
01:22:35 <KevinPorter> Interesting how often I get that. :|
01:22:41 <JacobMastel> :S
01:22:43 <KevinPorter> He's really away.
01:22:49 * JacobMastel likes his new smiley set :D
01:24:17 * daBomb69 thinks it's eirily quiet in here
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01:25:01 <daBomb69> and another person leaves the room!
01:25:02 <JacobMastel> :-/
01:25:12 <JacobMastel> *|
01:25:16 <JacobMastel> *8|
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01:25:20 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
01:26:11 <daBomb69> :-/
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01:27:53 <JacobMastel> That's a cool nick :P
01:27:58 <JacobMastel> Is it registered?
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01:28:06 <||1> :(
01:28:06 * Guest84722 is amazed that someone else registered |
01:28:33 *** ||1 is now known as |||
01:28:41 <Guest84722> |||: Nice nick
01:28:41 <|||> This one is too :'(
01:29:00 *** ||| is now known as \_
01:29:05 <\_> rawr
01:29:19 *** Guest84722 is now known as \
01:29:40 <\> uhg. someone else registered \ as well
01:30:20 *** \_ is now known as PortableApps
01:30:39 <\> nice
01:30:44 <PortableApps> I am now portableapps! :D
01:30:58 *** \ is now known as NotPortableApps
01:31:06 <PortableApps> Bensawsome! LOOK
01:31:14 * NotPortableApps cheers, this on isn't registered
01:31:19 <NotPortableApps> *one
01:31:46 *** PortableApps is now known as MrPortableApps
01:32:10 <NotPortableApps> MrPortableApps: How fancy
01:32:36 <MrPortableApps> Bensawsome...
01:32:44 <MrPortableApps> Become alive
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01:33:14 *** PA1 is now known as {}
01:33:33 <{}> someone registered {}
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01:33:44 *** {} is now known as Guest82611
01:33:45 <JacobMastel-Away> At least they didn't protect it :P
01:33:49 <JacobMastel-Away> Try becoming MrPortableApps
01:33:55 <Guest82611> MrPortableApps
01:34:04 *** Guest82611 is now known as MrPortableApps
01:34:30 <MrPortableApps> y does everyone always do the 30 sec thing?
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01:34:49 <JacobMastel-Away> No
01:34:59 <JacobMastel-Away> Oh because I don't want somebody pretending to be me
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01:35:04 <JacobMastel-Away> I thought you said does everyone.
01:35:30 <MsPortableApps> mhmm
01:35:44 <MsPortableApps> Amazingly, no one's registered this one yet
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01:36:22 <MsPortableApps> hello Jacob2
01:36:33 <Jacob2> Wow this is in two windows...
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01:37:32 <KevinPorter> You guys are lucky I didn't catch you before. :P
01:37:34 *** KingPortableApps is now known as JacobMastel
01:37:35 <JacobMastel> :P
01:37:39 *** MsPortableApps is now known as SquirePortableAp
01:37:43 <KevinPorter> Really, no nick change spamming. :P
01:37:46 <JacobMastel> I registered PortableApps and MrPortableapps :P
01:37:47 <JacobMastel> Bye
01:37:48 <JacobMastel> Dinner
01:37:48 <KevinPorter> Including you SquirePortableAp.
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01:38:01 <SquirePortableAp> I spelled Apps wrong
01:38:04 <KevinPorter> Lol.
01:38:11 <KevinPorter> No, you just went over the limit.
01:38:19 <KevinPorter> For characters in the nick that is.
01:38:24 <SquirePortableAp> oh
01:38:29 <SquirePortableAp> there's a limit?
01:38:59 <KevinPorter> Yep.
01:39:02 <SquirePortableAp> oh
01:39:07 <SquirePortableAp> darn
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01:40:05 <SquirePortableAp> IRC has 2 many rules
01:41:40 <SquirePortableAp> Does JkDefrag need admin rights?
01:42:18 <Mir> yes
01:42:23 <SquirePortableAp> ok, thnx
01:45:31 *** SquirePortableAp is now known as PortableAppsGuy
01:47:03 <PortableAppsGuy> how do u put that 30 sec time limit thing on ur nick once it's registered
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01:49:13 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now
01:49:19 <JacobMastel-Away> /msg NickServ set enfource on
01:49:23 *** JacobMastel-Away is now known as JacobMastel
01:49:28 <JacobMastel> *enforce
01:49:53 <ZachThibeau> howdy all
01:49:58 <JacobMastel> PortableAppsGuy: /msg NickServ set enforce on
01:50:03 <JacobMastel> hi ZachThibeau
01:50:06 <JacobMastel> How's it going?
01:50:24 <PortableAppsGuy> thnx
01:50:43 <JacobMastel> No prob
01:50:49 <ZachThibeau> not bad JacobMastel
01:51:01 <KevinPorter> I believe it's set to "on" by default, though I could be wrong.
01:51:05 * JacobMastel is exicited. I'm finally going back to school tomorrow
01:51:07 <JacobMastel> KevinPorter: No
01:51:08 <ZachThibeau> JacobMastel: did PR2 work for you?
01:51:08 <JacobMastel> It's not
01:51:14 <JacobMastel> Haven't downloaded it yet
01:51:15 <PortableAppsGuy> ok
01:51:17 <KevinPorter> Alright, guess I'm wrong then. ;)
01:51:18 <JacobMastel> Sorry been a bit busy
01:51:23 <JacobMastel> KevinPorter: As usual :P
01:51:28 <KevinPorter> :P
01:51:36 * JacobMastel hides behind ZachThibeau
01:51:41 <ZachThibeau> ...
01:51:47 * ZachThibeau step aside
01:51:51 * JacobMastel steps with ZachThibeau
01:52:16 * ZachThibeau punches Jacob Mastel and tells him to hide in -ot
01:52:58 * JacobMastel blocks ZachThibeau's punch, shoots him inbetween they eyes, hangs him on a hook, and continues to hid behind him ;P
01:53:17 <ZachThibeau> when I said -ot I meant it JacobMastel
01:53:21 <JacobMastel> :P
01:57:30 <excid3|movie> epic lols, im watching Thick as Thieves
01:57:38 <excid3|movie> they are in a club and the song play is a tetris techno remix!
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01:58:32 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
01:58:49 <PortableAppsGuy> hello RaScAl, how can we help you today?
01:59:08 <ChrisMorgan> PortableAppsGuy: don't worry about him, he's not in for support
01:59:16 <PortableAppsGuy> ok
01:59:19 <PortableAppsGuy> awesome
01:59:24 <RaScAL> hi
01:59:26 <RaScAL> i love to chat
01:59:28 <ChrisMorgan> He thinks he's my friend ;-)
01:59:35 <RaScAL> 23 f india
01:59:36 <RaScAL> u?
01:59:37 <ChrisMorgan> He's a year 10 student at my school.
01:59:39 <JacobMastel> Oh...one of those...
01:59:44 * JacobMastel side steps
01:59:44 <JacobMastel> :P
01:59:46 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. One of those.
01:59:51 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: very wise.
02:00:06 <RaScAL> honestly chris, you say some very derogative things about me
02:00:11 <KevinPorter> Lol.
02:00:16 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
02:00:21 <ChrisMorgan> RaScAL: well, they're true.
02:00:26 <ChrisMorgan> howdy ZachThibeau
02:00:44 <ZachThibeau> did you see my pre-release of NSIS
02:00:51 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: not yet
02:00:55 <ChrisMorgan> I'll test it when I get to it
02:01:00 <ZachThibeau> I'm working on PR3 already
02:01:09 <ChrisMorgan> Thread?
02:01:15 <ZachThibeau> seems some things slipped by
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02:01:21 <ChrisMorgan> found it
02:01:29 <ZachThibeau> http://portableapps.com/node/18263
02:01:39 <ZachThibeau> and yes it passes parameters ;)
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02:01:51 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: glad to see that you got that fixed for PR2
02:02:00 <ZachThibeau> :P
02:02:04 <MikeC> Hi, does anyone here know how to make a "launcher" ?
02:02:31 <KevinPorter> Hi MikeC. We use NSIS to make our launchers at PortableApps.com.
02:02:36 <ChrisMorgan> MikeC: have you read the guerilla field guide?
02:02:37 <JacobMastel> I do
02:02:45 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/14868 - read it first
02:02:50 <MikeC> I found this
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02:02:51 <MikeC> http://portableapps.com/node/5866
02:03:00 <MikeC> and wanted to make Eudora 7 a portable app
02:03:02 <JacobMastel> Hello mib_u4916r how can we help you?
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02:03:08 <MikeC> followed the directions at the bottom of the thread
02:03:14 <MikeC> until i got to the launcher issue
02:03:22 <MikeC> I'm not a coder so I hope it's not difficult?
02:03:37 <KevinPorter> MikeC: Have you read this tutorial yet? http://portableapps.com/development
02:03:37 <PortableAppsGuy> hello mib_u4916r, how can we help you today?
02:03:48 <ChrisMorgan> mib_u4916r seems to be coming from my school as well...
02:03:48 <ChrisMorgan> :-(
02:03:57 <JacobMastel> ChrisMorgan: How can you tell?
02:04:04 <Gizmokid2005> that mib user was rascal
02:04:07 <ChrisMorgan> So I think you can safely ignore mib_u4916r :P
02:04:08 <Gizmokid2005> the host of mibbit
02:04:12 <JacobMastel> :-\
02:04:14 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: name
02:04:18 <MikeC> KevinPorter, I looked over it some
02:04:25 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: in case you haven't noticed, I've got that as well...
02:04:28 <JacobMastel> name?
02:04:30 <RaScAL> chris what do you have against everyone from your school
02:04:31 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: I know
02:04:36 <RaScAL> where is your school spirit
02:04:57 <JacobMastel> Gone with the wind?
02:05:19 <RaScAL> :c
02:05:21 <KevinPorter> mib_u4916r: Just read through the tutorial and read through some guides you can find in the forums. That will get you started. :)
02:05:27 <KevinPorter> Err, MikeC.
02:05:32 <MikeC> Are these instructions correct: http://portableapps.com/node/5866#comment-27584
02:05:40 <ChrisMorgan> RaScAL: I still have a reputation to keep up... ;-)
02:05:50 <MikeC> I did everything he said up to the launcher part, tried to run Eudora and it would not run
02:06:04 <RaScAL> a reputation for what
02:11:43 <KevinPorter> RaScAL and ChrisMorgan: I'd appreciate it if you move your conversation elsewhere during support. :)
02:11:49 <ChrisMorgan> RaScAL: I (ChrisMorgan) have a reputation to keep up here. You are tarnishing it! :o :P
02:11:50 <JacobMastel> take it to -ot
02:11:53 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, stop it RaScAL
02:12:16 <KevinPorter> MikeC: I'd recommend using the code from WinMD5Sum Portable to make your launcher.
02:12:52 <KevinPorter> It's should be relatively simple to just put in the right file names and everything.
02:12:57 <RaScAL> what's ot
02:13:01 <MikeC> Where do I find that?
02:13:02 <mib_u4916r> hi?
02:13:04 <mib_u4916r> sorri
02:13:05 <JacobMastel> #portalbeapps-ot
02:13:08 <JacobMastel> A channel
02:13:10 <mib_u4916r> i was abit out of league
02:13:16 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: typign, tpying... :P
02:13:18 <PortableAppsGuy> hello mib_u4916r
02:13:28 <JacobMastel> Hello mib_u4916r do you need help?
02:13:42 <mib_u4916r> yes i do in fact
02:13:45 <mib_u4916r> where am i?
02:13:54 <JacobMastel> Your in #portableapps
02:13:58 <PortableAppsGuy> the portableapps.com help IRC
02:14:01 <ChrisMorgan> mib_u4916r: you are being vexatious. Please stop or leave.
02:14:02 <JacobMastel> It's a channal on somehting called IRC
02:14:03 <mib_u4916r> oh
02:14:08 <JacobMastel> IRC = Internet Relay Chat
02:14:10 <mib_u4916r> vexatious?
02:14:11 <mib_u4916r> sorri
02:14:13 <ChrisMorgan> I'll cope with him. He's at my school...
02:14:15 <mib_u4916r> i'm not tat gud in english..
02:14:21 <MikeC> It doesn't say anything about that md5 thing making a launcher
02:14:26 <KevinPorter> MikeC: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/winmd5sum_portable
02:14:32 <MikeC> can I just pay someone here to make it?
02:14:36 <MikeC> I'm not a programmer, it's all over my head
02:14:48 <KevinPorter> You can find the code in WinMD5SumPortable\Other\Source\WinMD5SumPortable.nsi
02:15:04 <KevinPorter> MikeC: Honestly, I'd do it for you for free if I had the time. :)
02:15:07 <ChrisMorgan> MikeC: that'll soon be coming in as a mainstream feature
02:15:12 <ChrisMorgan> I'd do it :-)
02:15:37 <MikeC> I mean how difficult is it to make a launcher? I don't see any step by step directions otherwise I'd try it
02:16:02 <ChrisMorgan> It depends. For some apps it's straightforward, for others it's more complex.
02:16:12 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. our Mozilla launchers are more complex than most
02:16:15 <MikeC> I'm talking about Eudora 7.1
02:16:22 <JacobMastel> .g Eudora
02:16:23 <mib_u4916r> so this is a supportive system
02:16:23 <pabot> JacobMastel: http://www.eudora.com/
02:16:24 <mib_u4916r> isn't it?
02:16:29 <MikeC> http://portableapps.com/node/5866#comment-27584
02:16:30 <JacobMastel> mib_u4916r: shut up
02:16:32 <MikeC> yes
02:16:34 <ChrisMorgan> mib_u4916r: please stop talking in here.
02:16:34 <PortableAppsGuy> MikeC: Eudora is based on Mozilla code
02:16:39 <MikeC> no
02:16:44 <JacobMastel> It ain't that hard you just have to figure it out it really isn't hard you just have to figure it out.
02:16:50 <MikeC> the last verstion of Eudora before development stopped
02:16:54 <MikeC> and it became open source
02:16:58 <MikeC> is 7.1
02:17:05 <MikeC> it blows thunderbird and others out of the water
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02:17:09 <MikeC> why they stopped it, I don't know
02:17:19 <JacobMastel> What is it exactly email?
02:17:21 <PortableAppsGuy> yes, and it is based on the Mozilla code
02:17:23 <ChrisMorgan> Looking at the instructions in that comment, it looks to me as though it should be pretty straightforward.
02:17:32 <MikeC> It isn't based on Mozilla code
02:17:36 <MikeC> it's made by Qualcomm
02:17:44 <PortableAppsGuy> It is
02:17:48 <MikeC> eudora 8.0 is based on mozilla
02:17:50 <MikeC> and thunderbird
02:17:54 <MikeC> but not version 7
02:17:55 <MikeC> and prior
02:18:14 <MikeC> 7.1 was the last version by Qualcomm
02:18:41 <ChrisMorgan> So 7.1 is open source?
02:18:47 <MikeC> no
02:18:48 <MikeC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora_(e-mail_client)
02:19:00 <PortableAppsGuy> wikipedia isnt always right
02:19:23 <MikeC> err http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2006/061011_project_collaboration_mozilla.html
02:19:27 <ChrisMorgan> So are you asking for 7.1 Portable or 8 Beta Portable?
02:19:28 <MikeC> trust me, I know this is true
02:19:33 <MikeC> 7.1
02:19:37 <PortableAppsGuy> MikeC: I see Eudora 7.1 right in front of me
02:19:46 <ChrisMorgan> I'm just asking about it for licensing issues
02:20:03 <ChrisMorgan> So e.g. I could do a launcher, but only upload it as a launcher, not bundled.
02:20:07 <MikeC> The Eudora community was all up in arms and pissed off when development stopped and all the penelope stuff started because ti sucks
02:20:12 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon I should be able to do it.
02:20:34 <MikeC> I did what the forum poster said to do up to the launcher direction
02:20:52 <MikeC> what licensing issues, they have a sponsored version that's free
02:21:40 <ChrisMorgan> MikeC: rebundling a freeware (not open source) app is not normally allowed.
02:21:41 <ChrisMorgan> And not at all yet at PortableApps.com
02:21:51 <ChrisMorgan> So if you want to share it, you just do a launcher and upload that, with instructions on how to put the base app in.
02:22:06 <JacobMastel> Which is add the app yourself into the app directory
02:22:20 <JacobMastel> Or some of the *fancy* launchers autodownload the app for you
02:22:20 <MikeC> ok...
02:22:25 <JacobMastel> Using the NSISdl plugin
02:22:25 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah.
02:22:35 <JacobMastel> Which I belive is included in NSIS protable thanks to ZachThibeau
02:22:36 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: and that code'll come in soon officially from John
02:22:47 <ChrisMorgan> It's included in NSIS by default I belive
02:22:50 <ChrisMorgan> Not certain though
02:22:52 <ZachThibeau> :P
02:22:52 <MikeC> so it's possible, not possible?
02:22:57 <JacobMastel> Possible
02:23:06 <JacobMastel> Everything is possilbe some things are just not probable
02:23:13 <ChrisMorgan> It is possible, it's just if you want to share it with others, don't post it with Eudora embedded.
02:23:17 <Bensawsome> but only for a launcher for now..... no including the app
02:23:24 <JacobMastel> Remember in the world of electronics/programming you are basically God
02:23:30 <MikeC> I don't want to s hare it with anyone, I just want to use it to back up my google apps account
02:23:41 <MikeC> we were using Eudora since 2000
02:23:50 <ChrisMorgan> ok, that's fine then. But seriously, why don't you just go with Thunderbird?
02:24:02 <PortableAppsGuy> or Dpicebird
02:24:07 <PortableAppsGuy> *Spicebird
02:24:15 <MikeC> because all of the mail since 2000 is in Eudora
02:24:21 <MikeC> and I need to download where I left off
02:24:26 <ChrisMorgan> hum... ok
02:24:28 <MikeC> when I signed up for google apps
02:24:28 <JacobMastel> Export?
02:24:37 <MikeC> I routed the mail to google as well as my webhost
02:24:41 <MikeC> and I just stopped checking the webhost
02:24:45 <MikeC> so all that mail is piling up
02:24:50 <JacobMastel> Google will support anything with POP3 or IMAP support
02:24:55 <JacobMastel> Which is about any email app....
02:25:12 <JacobMastel> Oh and don't forget SMTP for sending which is again any app....
02:25:19 <MikeC> nothing to do with google, I want to have it backed up in case google loses it
02:25:28 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: I think he's got mail already downloaded to Eudora which he wants to keep
02:25:35 <MikeC> yes, exactly
02:25:38 <JacobMastel> Can't Eudora export to html or eml?
02:25:43 <JacobMastel> Even csv?
02:25:50 <JacobMastel> TB could import it
02:25:56 <MikeC> I just want to download the rest of the email that's been piling up on the webserver
02:26:18 <MikeC> I already have a portable version of thunderbird for something else
02:26:22 <JacobMastel> K
02:26:50 <ChrisMorgan> MikeC: do you reckon you can work out NSIS code?
02:26:53 <JacobMastel> ZachThibeau: downloading PR3
02:26:58 <ZachThibeau> :)
02:27:06 <MikeC> I don't even know what NSIS stands for, let alone working out with it haha
02:27:15 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm
02:27:22 <MikeC> If someone can point me to a "to make a launcher, do this this and this"
02:27:25 <MikeC> then maybe I can do it
02:27:29 <JacobMastel> Nullsoft System Installer Script
02:28:05 <RaScAL> You're making NSIS portable?
02:28:44 <MikeC> are you talking to me?
02:28:53 <ChrisMorgan> RaScAL: read the history. You should be able to work out what he's ask8ing about.
02:29:01 <ChrisMorgan> So please stop, RaScAL
02:29:20 <JacobMastel> .def NSIS
02:29:21 <pabot> JacobMastel: NSIS is (Nullsoft System Installer Script) is the scripting language used by developers of PortableApps.com to make a application portable and give it extra features
02:29:28 <JacobMastel> There we go :D
02:29:42 <MikeC> scripting, sounds like programming
02:29:45 <MikeC> i'm not a programmer
02:29:57 <JacobMastel> There really isn't one
02:29:58 <MikeC> does one have to be a programmer to make a launcher?
02:29:59 <ChrisMorgan> Yes, it is programming. Most of it's pretty simple.
02:29:59 <RaScAL> I always thought NSIS was a packager
02:30:00 <ZachThibeau> Programing and scripting are 2 different things
02:30:05 <JacobMastel> RaScAL: SHUT UP
02:30:11 <JacobMastel> MikeC: There is no simple way to do it.
02:30:19 <JacobMastel> It IS programing just not so complicated
02:30:27 <MikeC> ok, no simple way to do it means I'm up the creek then haha
02:30:28 <ChrisMorgan> And anyway, RaScAL needs to go 'cos the bell just went :D
02:30:30 <ChrisMorgan> Finally :D
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02:31:00 <MikeC> perhaps I can just install Eudora on the C: drive and set the data folder to be my external drive
02:31:06 <MikeC> I guess that should be good enough
02:31:28 <PortableAppsGuy> MikeC: Thats what I did, and Eudora works 4 me
02:31:51 <MikeC> Ok, that's what I'll do then. Thanks for the help
02:32:04 <ChrisMorgan> That'll do for a temporary solution. As soon as you move it though (other than drive letter) it'd stop working. Also it won't be PAF
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02:32:36 <MikeC> I'll just leave it in the root of my external drive
02:32:41 <MikeC> should be fine
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02:34:31 <MikeC> ok, just did it
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02:35:14 <PortableAppsGuy> hello KWMJ, how can we help you?
02:35:58 <KWMJ> I was wondering if anyone has been having problems with the latest version of Portable Firefox's bookmarks and history?
02:36:21 <KWMJ> I can't save bookmarks with the browser and It doesn't save history either
02:36:27 <PortableAppsGuy> I haven't found any problems with it.
02:36:46 <PortableAppsGuy> Perhaps the install got messed up?
02:37:22 <KevinPorter> KWMJ: I'd recommend deleting your current Firefox Portable installation and reinstalling.
02:37:34 <KWMJ> I would believe that if it had only happened once, but I have installed it 3 times already to no avail...
02:37:48 <KevinPorter> If that doesn't work, make sure you look through all of your settings to see that it saves bookmarks and history properly.
02:38:05 <KWMJ> ok, thanks going to give it a try
02:38:07 <KevinPorter> Did you delete the FirefoxPortable directory before you reinstalled?
02:38:19 <PortableAppsGuy> try running chdsk on ur drive
02:38:26 <KWMJ> ok, got it
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02:39:06 <KevinPorter> PortableAppsGuy: I'd appreciate it if you could change your nick, just because it might be a bit misleading to many support users.
02:39:09 <KevinPorter> :)
02:39:16 <PortableAppsGuy> oh, kk
02:39:30 <PortableAppsGuy> what would be a good nick?
02:39:49 <KevinPorter> daBomb wasn't half bad. ;)
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02:43:40 <JacobMastel> No more Chris :(
02:44:05 <KevinPorter> Well, I need to get off for the night. Got plenty of studying to do. G'night all.
02:44:14 <JacobMastel> KevinPorter: I got more :P
02:44:22 <Gizmokid2005> see ya KevinPorter
02:44:27 <JacobMastel> Been sick since Sunday :P
02:44:30 <JacobMastel> Good luck
02:44:39 <KevinPorter> Lol, yeah, you too JacobMastel. ;P
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02:44:56 <JacobMastel> lol
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02:45:14 <JacobMastel> Hi daBomb69
02:45:20 <JacobMastel> You have a Compaq Computer?
02:45:27 <daBomb69> Yes
02:45:44 <daBomb69> how did u know?
02:45:56 <JacobMastel> And you live in Panora Iowa?
02:45:57 <JacobMastel> :P
02:45:59 <JacobMastel> Your IP
02:46:03 <JacobMastel> (6:44:53 PM) daBomb69 [n=Compaq_O@66.43.242.42] entered the room.
02:46:10 <daBomb69> oh
02:46:22 <JacobMastel> Do a /whois JacobMastel
02:46:22 <daBomb69> and, I'v enever even heard of Panora
02:46:27 <JacobMastel> lol
02:46:28 <JacobMastel> Iowa?
02:46:48 <daBomb69> I'm guessing ur name isn't really purple
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02:46:59 <JacobMastel> If you look up my IP the cities wrong about 40min from here, but my internet comes off Cell towers so that's where its router form
02:47:02 <JacobMastel> *from
02:47:06 <JacobMastel> No Purple is my given name.
02:47:11 <JacobMastel> :P
02:47:24 <daBomb69> How does one change the name thingy?
02:47:31 <JacobMastel> It's in your client
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02:47:44 <JacobMastel> You gotta dig threw the settings
02:47:56 <daBomb69> what client do u use?
02:48:00 <JacobMastel> Pidgin
02:48:07 <JacobMastel> SrgSiler|Sleep: SLEEP WELL!
02:48:10 <JacobMastel> ::P
02:48:11 <SrgSiler|Sleep> ty
02:48:14 * daBomb69 cheers for other Pidgen users
02:48:15 <SrgSiler|Sleep> :P
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02:56:31 <KWMJ> Hey, just wanted to let you know that it's working now, thanks guys
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03:08:02 <ZachThibeau> ok....
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03:15:48 <excid3> -.-
03:15:50 <excid3> rawr
03:16:05 <daBomb69> excid3: how was the movie?
03:16:26 <excid3> it was pretty good
03:16:34 <daBomb69> cool
03:16:34 <JacobMastel-Away> What did you see?
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03:16:39 <excid3> might need to watch it again to figure it all out
03:16:45 <excid3> i watched Thick As Thieves
03:17:00 <JacobMastel> never seen it
03:17:13 <daBomb69> wats it about?
03:17:41 <excid3> of course, it turns out its a remake of a movie from 1999
03:17:45 <excid3> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1112782/
03:18:19 <excid3> maybe not, maybe the older movie had the same name
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03:36:23 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
03:36:29 <rbrt13> hello
03:36:37 <daBomb69> hello rbrt13
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03:46:47 <alpha1beta> hello
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04:02:43 <alpha1beta> hey everyone look at the idiot! http://portableapps.com/node/18262
04:07:25 <ZachThibeau> he's back :/
04:07:32 <ZachThibeau> good grief
04:07:59 <daBomb69> whick idiot?
04:08:30 <alpha1beta> mix master trixz
04:08:43 <alpha1beta> the most annoying idiot ever to walk the face of the earth
04:08:53 <alpha1beta> leave a comment, and call him an idiot
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04:12:25 <alpha1beta> http://portableapps.com/node/18262
04:12:32 <alpha1beta> jacob, take a took at that
04:12:37 <alpha1beta> look*
04:12:45 <daBomb69> wow, that guys one stupid fellow
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04:12:56 <alpha1beta> he's an ID10T
04:16:08 <JacobMastel> Think this goes to far?
04:16:09 <JacobMastel> Honestly did you even think about that? Seriously you've been here long enough to know what the difference is between a web app and a desktop app. Gmail, Google Docs, Google Calendar, and even (yes really) google is on the web. That means you can view it from any computer provided you know your username and password. Stop with the dumb posts PLEASE.
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04:16:20 <JacobMastel> Hi Patrick
04:16:34 <PatrickPatience> Note: I am no longer away.
04:16:39 <alpha1beta> not far enough dude...
04:16:42 <PatrickPatience> Apparently we need clarification on that now.
04:16:45 <alpha1beta> Note: we know that
04:16:57 <JacobMastel> :P
04:17:26 <PatrickPatience> Earlier, it was like, "PatrickP|Away is now known as PatrickPatience" and daBomb69 is like, "PatrickPatience are you not any longer away?"
04:17:40 <JacobMastel> lol
04:17:40 <PatrickPatience> I wasn't aware that kind of transition required clarification.
04:17:42 <alpha1beta> well, he's an idiot too :P
04:19:05 <JacobMastel> Wow
04:19:08 <JacobMastel> That's sad :P
04:19:24 <excid3> fail
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04:20:32 <PatrickPatience> All done: http://portableapps.com/node/18262#comment-112625
04:20:56 <ZachThibeau> very nice response :P
04:21:17 <JacobMastel> lmfao
04:21:38 <JacobMastel> Although you forgot the www.
04:21:48 <JacobMastel> And you should make it the proper mail.google.com to throw him off :P
04:21:48 <ZachThibeau> not really needed
04:23:07 * excid3 just got a PDF on Electronic Warfare from the Army
04:23:11 <ZachThibeau> alpha1beta: your response isn't needed there
04:23:20 <PatrickPatience> You know there's like 3 sites in existence that still require a www., eh?
04:23:55 <alpha1beta> i've said to people he should be banned, bout time to post it for everyone to see http://portableapps.com/node/18262#comment-112626 so zach, i think it's needed
04:24:39 <ZachThibeau> alpha1beta: if you think that you don't need to post it publicly,
04:25:19 <alpha1beta> well lets face it, he's a spammer, not the normal type but he is
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04:29:47 <JacobMastel> Maybe not Genious but your definately not a dumb a**
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04:29:47 <ZachThibeau> JacobMastel: ok that hurt
04:29:47 <ZachThibeau> :P
04:29:47 <alpha1beta> i would too, but this guy is beyond any level of stupidity or forgetfulness or anything else, i have ever seen
04:29:52 <JacobMastel> alpha1beta: you'll need a sledge hammer to drive it home
04:30:06 <alpha1beta> a jackhammer*
04:30:06 <JacobMastel> ZachThibeau: what hurt?
04:30:11 <Mir> oh snap
04:30:18 <ZachThibeau> JacobMastel: <JacobMastel> Maybe not Genious but your definately not a dumb a**
04:30:20 <Mir> mixmaster is back?
04:30:25 <JacobMastel> Mir yup
04:30:31 <Mir> =_=
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04:30:38 <Mir> goodie
04:30:47 <PatrickPatience> ZachThibeau: How is that anything to do with a horrible memory?
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04:30:58 <JacobMastel> ZachThibeau: I didn't mean nothin bad by it. I wouldn't call myself a Genious either. I've played with white gas a little to much to be cal......
04:31:00 <PatrickPatience> He knows the posts he's making are "lame" as he put it.
04:31:13 <JacobMastel> Look at the link I put on my comment
04:31:28 <JacobMastel> He's just beyond hope of redemption at this point. I was gonna forgive him last time but honeslty
04:31:31 <ZachThibeau> PatrickPatience: some people just have hard time with remembering what they promised
04:32:05 <ZachThibeau> I'm a prime example unfortunetly
04:32:19 <ZachThibeau> I'm doing better but there is still stuff I struggle with
04:32:38 <JacobMastel> Lets just drop it
04:32:43 <JacobMastel> Honestly...
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04:33:02 <JacobMastel> Look he's not here and he still managed to make himself the center of attention :P
04:33:03 <PatrickPatience> If he stops and thinks about what he's doing, he'll again realize the stuff he's asking is lame. Someone just needs to give him one gentle reminder.
04:33:16 <PatrickPatience> I suppose at this point alpha's was too much.
04:33:29 <PatrickPatience> But if he continues with more posts, he really has it coming.
04:33:37 <ZachThibeau> thats the nail I was trying to hit there about alpha1
04:33:50 <Mir> this is what
04:33:59 <Mir> the 4th time hes pulled this BS
04:34:04 <Mir> common guys
04:34:05 <JacobMastel> Mir: http://portableapps.com/node/18262
04:34:05 <alpha1beta> more than that
04:34:37 <Mir> JacobMastel: i saw
04:34:42 <Mir> i ignored it
04:35:09 <alpha1beta> Zach, i personally think we hit the point of no return back around September, he's crossed every line thrown in front of him, time to build a wall
04:35:15 <Mir> the same with the request for a portable XP when there was already a request thread for it 10 lines below >:|
04:35:38 <Mir> i agree with alpha1beta sadly
04:35:40 <JacobMastel> alpha1beta: You just made yourself sound a bit like the U.N. what ya going to do send troops to his house that aren't allowed to shoot?
04:35:41 <JacobMastel> :P
04:35:44 <Mir> this person is trolling
04:36:09 <Mir> cant you IP ban the d00d
04:36:11 <alpha1beta> Mir, it's true, if it were my site, he wouldn't been banned on the 2nd stupid post
04:36:37 <Mir> he's had several temp bans
04:37:20 <alpha1beta> i mean a permanent ban, on my sites, i ban quickly, you screw up, your done
04:37:25 <ZachThibeau> alpha1beta: if I had it my way I would yes ban him but also give you a temp ban for your attitude, no offence it's just not needed in a public forum
04:38:18 <ZachThibeau> now that being said I agree with you on the fact it is yes stupid
04:38:38 <alpha1beta> which does me no harm, look how often i post, i'd hope john bans me, and him
04:38:52 <JacobMastel> ZachThibeau: I don't know people do have limits of what they will accept. While Mike may be a bit jumpy (no offense) everyone has a limit of what they're going to tolerate. Read the entire thread of his apology he gets arrogant and stupid while he's appologizing. Seriously.
04:39:24 <alpha1beta> Not jumpy, but i have a low tolerance for stupidity, i deal with it all day everyday
04:39:25 <ZachThibeau> JacobMastel: I realize that
04:40:58 <JacobMastel> alpha1beta: you'd love the younger scouts in my troop. If I get white gas on my hands and it lights will it burn me? My Response: Jee I don't know why don't you try it and tell me how it works for you.
04:41:07 <ZachThibeau> but still I never liked flamming on forums against users, if they have a problem with them email them privetely or take to a forum staff member
04:41:14 <JacobMastel> I had to jump when I realized he took me seriously
04:41:15 <Mir> uh oh
04:41:22 <Mir> i smell internet drama
04:41:30 <JacobMastel> He was in the 7th grade so I kinda thought he'd get sarcasm....
04:41:32 <Mir> FSCK
04:41:35 <ZachThibeau> ouch XD
04:41:41 <Mir> another troll on my board >:|
04:41:51 <JacobMastel> He didn't light it but he did pour it on his arm
04:42:04 <alpha1beta> but Zach, i can't email him, and i talked to the site admin...
04:42:21 <JacobMastel> And he never comes on here....
04:42:38 <Mir> thank god
04:42:42 <ZachThibeau> alpha1beta: I'm done talking about it. it's not solving anything. let's agree to disagree and leave it at that :)
04:42:56 <JacobMastel> I know create a special thread for him entitled "@MixMasterTrix None Else Are To Read"
04:43:01 <JacobMastel> I hate that saying...
04:44:05 <alpha1beta> Alrighty, but let me finish with this, I did what i thought was needed, Might not be the best way, but i got the desired result so far, so I'm not gonna ask to have it removed or anything, sorry if you don't like it, but if you did, you may have made that post, not me. now, back to the fun stuff!
04:44:32 <ZachThibeau> alpha1beta: so other than that? how are you?
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04:45:15 <ZachThibeau> life treating you well?
04:45:25 <alpha1beta> pretty good, and yourself, been working on my fresh install of gOS, finally got sound to work on a debian based linux for the first time
04:45:35 <ZachThibeau> nice
04:45:43 <Mir> on the TX?
04:45:46 <ZachThibeau> I've released NSISPortable PR3 tonight :)
04:45:51 <alpha1beta> yep mir
04:45:51 <Mir> yey
04:46:07 <Mir> alpha1beta: i was never able to get linux to run on mine
04:46:13 <Mir> i will wait a few years
04:46:19 <alpha1beta> i saw gonna pull it down as soon as i get back on window
04:46:22 <Mir> they'll iron the kinks out
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04:46:45 <alpha1beta> Mir, i've had next to no issues, besides, user error :)
04:46:59 <ZachThibeau> alpha1beta: :D http://portableapps.com/node/18263
04:47:28 <alpha1beta> ..think i didn't have the link already bookmarked :P
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04:52:08 <ZachThibeau> alpha1beta: I also have run of no-install.com too :)
04:52:24 <alpha1beta> i saw
04:52:34 <alpha1beta> new site for hosting? :P
04:52:37 <ZachThibeau> nope
04:52:45 <alpha1beta> ahh
04:52:54 <alpha1beta> time to grab nsis
04:53:17 <ZachThibeau> it's going to remain the same which is news on portable apps and portable media :)
04:53:25 <ZachThibeau> I'm porting the site to wordpress too :)
04:53:30 <alpha1beta> :D
04:54:14 <alpha1beta> my mom is trying to get me to redo my brother's scout troop website, it sucks, the member area says like "members only, others keep out" no login...
04:54:27 <ZachThibeau> ouch
04:54:39 <alpha1beta> so i'm thinking WP and zenphoto
04:55:21 <excid3> have the admin section be on the honor system
04:55:32 <alpha1beta> lmao, no
04:55:38 <excid3> hahaha
04:55:49 <alpha1beta> their website as is, has no admin section, it's just html pages
04:56:02 <alpha1beta> no CMS
04:56:24 <excid3> make it WP
04:56:35 <excid3> any noob can use that
04:56:38 <alpha1beta> i just said that... :P
04:56:40 <excid3> so they shouldnt have a problem
04:56:44 <alpha1beta> (11:54:40 PM) alpha1beta: so i'm thinking WP and zenphoto
04:56:52 * excid3 has been too busy doing MIPS :P
04:57:35 <excid3> im ALMOST done!!
04:57:36 <excid3> yayzzor
04:57:37 <PatrickPatience> This evening's Poll: Will we see the PortableApps.com Menu 1.2 tomorrow?
04:57:40 <alpha1beta> :D
04:57:58 <alpha1beta> PP Stick our head outside, if it freezes instantly, then yes
04:58:27 <alpha1beta> you*
04:58:32 <alpha1beta> your*
04:59:28 <excid3> *ur
04:59:32 <excid3> :P
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05:03:28 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
05:03:37 <alpha1beta> hello JohnTHaller
05:03:43 <JohnTHaller> hi
05:03:53 <alpha1beta> who's it going?
05:04:03 <alpha1beta> how's*
05:04:20 * alpha1beta can't spell tonight
05:10:17 <PatrickPatience> Howdy how.
05:11:38 <JohnTHaller> hi
05:11:54 <JohnTHaller> workin on a special 1.2 platform build for openoffice.org to give away in germany
05:11:58 <JohnTHaller> and updating the pa installer
05:12:06 <alpha1beta> so what's the weather forcast for tomorrow, sunny with a chance of menu release?
05:13:33 <JohnTHaller> this week (ending sunday). i'm finishing the oo.o build first. i may post it for others, too. it's basically the 1.1 + 1.5 theming, lang variable switching, launch as admin.
05:13:46 <JohnTHaller> i've been having difficulty coding for two days because of my eyes :-(
05:13:55 <alpha1beta> what wrong?
05:14:10 <JohnTHaller> they're tired, having some pain
05:14:20 <alpha1beta> someone needs a vacation
05:18:03 <JohnTHaller> i've needed one for a while. no time or money though
05:18:28 <alpha1beta> and NYC isn't exactly a resort town :P
05:19:48 <PatrickPatience> STOP UPDATING THE INSTALLER! :-P
05:20:10 <PatrickPatience> Oh, that was an older one.
05:20:11 <PatrickPatience> Phew. :-P
05:20:28 <PatrickPatience> It said updated, though I already read it. Must not have been logged in.
05:20:44 <alpha1beta> lol. nice.
05:21:10 <PatrickPatience> JohnTHaller: John T. "Hal-er", right? Not, "Hall-er"? or other way around?
05:21:33 <PatrickPatience> I always though Hall-er, then I heard Hal-er in the tech interview a while back.
05:21:37 <PatrickPatience> I need confirmation. :-P
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05:21:47 <alpha1beta> i always thought Hall-er too :P
05:21:50 <JohnTHaller> ha ller
05:21:53 <JohnTHaller> a like in hat
05:22:17 <alpha1beta> lol wow. never would have guessed
05:23:03 <PatrickPatience> Phew, I've been saying it correctly (at least for the past year).
05:23:14 <PatrickPatience> You know, because I speak about you orally quite often.
05:23:56 <JohnTHaller> check it: http://portableapps.com/node/14939#comment-112632
05:26:45 <PatrickPatience> It was updated. I hate you! I can't keep up with you installed updating madness!
05:27:06 <PatrickPatience> Also, yay! I could use some of those languages. :-)
05:27:29 <alpha1beta> i thought programmers only know english and profanity :P
05:27:37 <JohnTHaller> your config file can stay the same :-)
05:27:39 <JohnTHaller> 0.12.x
05:27:54 <JohnTHaller> just unzip what you need right over what you got and you're good
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05:41:59 <JohnTHaller> I think our languages list on the installer is looking good: http://portableapps.com/node/14939#languages
05:43:21 <alpha1beta> pretty good list
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05:44:31 <alpha1beta> bedtime, peace out all!
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05:58:17 <ZachThibeau> night all
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06:13:24 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
06:13:27 <rbrt13> hello
06:13:35 <JohnTHaller> hi
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06:18:11 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
06:19:07 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: http://PortableApps.com/PDFTKBuilderPortable redirects to http://portableapps.com/apps/office/pdftkbuilder_portable - 404: should be http://portableapps.com/apps/office/pdftk_builder_portable
06:19:28 <JohnTHaller> email... can't address now
06:19:41 <ChrisMorgan> ok
06:19:52 <JohnTHaller> (coding on deadline half asleep... i'll mess it up if I try and fix now)
06:19:52 <ChrisMorgan> Few others too, e.g. XenonPortable doesn't exist as an alias
06:19:58 <ChrisMorgan> :P
06:19:59 <JohnTHaller> like i said... later
06:20:12 <ChrisMorgan> okey pokey
06:28:37 <ChrisMorgan> :o not hall-er!?
06:28:41 <ChrisMorgan> So I've always been doing it wrong... :-(
06:28:51 <ChrisMorgan> This is going to be hard to fix up... :P
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06:38:20 <Scriptdaemon> Why did pabot just PM me?
06:39:16 <Scriptdaemon> Ah, nvm.
06:39:54 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, that's why ;-)
06:40:04 <Scriptdaemon> I'm gonna have to kill Zach now.
06:41:51 <ChrisMorgan> :o
06:47:34 <ChrisMorgan> We need Zach!
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07:25:12 <rbrt13> hello
07:39:08 <rbrt13> good night
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09:30:17 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
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11:36:15 <pa_8602> Hello
11:36:29 <DaveDixonII> Hi!
11:36:36 <DaveDixonII> Do you need anything today pa_8602?
11:36:40 <pa_8602> can some one help i have a utility program for installation how can i install it on my USB drve
11:37:02 <DaveDixonII> What's the program?
11:37:17 <pa_8602> the file is an installer .exe
11:37:30 <DaveDixonII> What's the program? ;)
11:37:47 <pa_8602> its a utility to make voip calls
11:38:02 <DaveDixonII> iCall? Skype? What?
11:38:16 <pa_8602> no pctophone
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11:39:03 <DaveDixonII> Okay. Unfortunately we cannot make this portable. :(
11:39:13 <pa_8602> oh no why
11:40:02 <DaveDixonII> It probally isn't open source and contains a whole bunch of whatci-mawhosits. (Lol)
11:40:54 <pa_8602> if i give the installer can it be made portable to allow installation
11:41:03 <pa_8602> it shall be a great help
11:41:50 <DaveDixonII> Well. You can make any program portable. Although it would be illegal. The only time it isn't illegal is open source and making a launcher for the freeware app.
11:42:36 <pa_8602> how can it be made portable pls explain
11:43:38 <DaveDixonII> pa_8602: There is a process of watching where files go and register information stores. Making it portable and how long it will take will totally depend on the app.
11:43:46 <DaveDixonII> registry*
11:45:17 <DaveDixonII> Although i'm not allowed to help you on that. :( Sorry.
11:45:21 <pa_8602> is that very technical
11:46:13 <DaveDixonII> Again. That depends on the app and how much you know NSIS (How we make the app portable)
11:51:51 <DaveDixonII> I'm sure (or not) rmccue can help you with any other questions. :)
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11:53:15 <pa_8602> i need help how cna i get it man???
11:53:24 <rmccue> I can help you :)
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12:25:41 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now
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12:27:48 <ZachThibeau> morning all
12:33:29 <pa_8602> rmccue pls help me
12:33:37 <rmccue> Yes?
12:34:19 <pa_8602> I have a utility installer how can i convert it to portable app to use the application thru USB
12:35:16 <rmccue> pa_8602: You already asked that question and DaveDixonII already responded.
12:35:33 <pa_8602> but it was not the solution
12:35:50 <pa_8602> i m trying to download the convertor that also not avialable
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12:37:02 <rmccue> pa_8602: We can't help you any further than what DaveDixonII said.
12:38:05 <pa_8602> ok Thanx
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12:38:32 <rmccue> ...
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12:38:57 <Bensawsome> lol
12:39:19 <Bensawsome> i thought they wre gonna be really persistent rmccue :/
12:39:22 <Bensawsome> *were
12:39:26 <rmccue> Yeah, me too.
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12:56:27 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM, and thats all. He has no idea what to put here, so.... hi!! Love him or hate him, it's your choice.
12:57:22 <Bensawsome> MaienM :D
12:57:23 <Bensawsome> lol
12:57:46 <MaienM> ;)
12:58:23 <Bensawsome> hdd troubles again MaienM :O
12:58:27 <MaienM> nah
12:58:29 <Bensawsome> or just interwebz troubles
12:58:31 <Bensawsome> lol
12:58:41 <MaienM> trying something out with some spare parts I have :P
12:58:49 <MaienM> to see if I could get dual monitors to work
12:58:56 <MaienM> which failed :(
12:59:17 <Bensawsome> aaa cool
12:59:25 <Bensawsome> err damn :(
12:59:41 <Bensawsome> i was trying to get this video card i found to work last nite... it didnt :'(
12:59:55 <MaienM> I decided to order a new one ;)
12:59:59 <Bensawsome> and it had twice the video ram then my old one did too :'(
13:00:04 <MaienM> and some extra ram too, while I'm at it :)
13:00:12 <Bensawsome> damnit =_= lol
13:00:26 <MaienM> but its gonna cost me around 180 euros....
13:00:39 <Bensawsome> what type of connection does ur current video card use >_>
13:00:41 <Bensawsome> agp?/
13:00:43 <Bensawsome> pci?
13:00:47 <Bensawsome> blt?
13:00:49 <Bensawsome> XD
13:00:49 <MaienM> pci-e
13:00:54 <Bensawsome> damn >_>
13:00:55 <Bensawsome> lol
13:01:10 <MaienM> still kinda doubting whether its gonna be worth it, or whether I'm better off just saving up for a new pc altogether
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13:01:23 <Bensawsome> :/
13:01:23 <MaienM> which I am gonna do anyway, but its damn expensive ;_;
13:01:37 <Bensawsome> are they more expensive out there?
13:01:43 <Bensawsome> where are you again?
13:01:52 <MaienM> nah, I just am picky with what I want in it :P
13:01:57 <Bensawsome> some dutch country i know that :P
13:01:57 <MaienM> the netherlands
13:02:03 <Bensawsome> aaa thats what it is ^_^
13:02:37 <Bensawsome> brb
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13:04:52 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
13:05:51 <Bensawsome> all euro like are we now MaienM :P
13:05:53 <Bensawsome> lol
13:07:08 <Bensawsome> >_>
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13:16:57 <MaienM> ?
13:17:02 <Bensawsome> ?
13:17:20 <Bensawsome> ~!@#$%^&*()_+
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13:50:42 <onestoploser> lmao: http://mitchieville.com/10480/japan-week-thursday-edition/
13:51:24 <MaienM> xD "or, well never mind the or part."
13:54:17 <onestoploser> lol
13:59:01 <Bensawsome> >_>
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15:18:23 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
15:18:35 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
15:18:40 <JohnTHaller> hi
15:19:36 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller ^_^
15:21:54 * JohnTHaller is tired. Up until 230 coding
15:22:49 <Bensawsome> :(
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15:29:02 <ZachThibeau> ouch john :(
15:29:18 <ZachThibeau> I know how that feels
15:29:26 <ZachThibeau> I did that too last night XD
15:29:52 <Bensawsome> XD
15:30:01 <JohnTHaller> got up at 830 and continued
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15:30:28 <ZachThibeau> yeah I was about the same but it was 8am got me
15:30:29 <Bensawsome> :/
15:30:58 <ZachThibeau> been trying to get my mediaplayer app to compile correctly with the changes MaienM made to it
15:31:20 <Bensawsome> :O
15:31:42 <Bensawsome> silly MaienM messing up ZachThibeau's app :P
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15:31:56 <MaienM> I didn't mess it up :P
15:31:59 <MaienM> it works fine
15:31:59 <ZachThibeau> no not messing it up
15:32:00 <Bensawsome> :P
15:32:10 <ZachThibeau> tis gstreamers fault :P
15:32:17 <Bensawsome> lol
15:32:20 <MaienM> and its our app Bensawsome, not just ZachThibeau's :P
15:32:35 <onestoploser> lol
15:32:42 <Bensawsome> well la di da :P
15:32:48 <ZachThibeau> :/
15:32:56 * onestoploser slaps Bensawsome
15:32:58 <Bensawsome> technicalities
15:33:03 * Bensawsome eats onestoploser's hands
15:33:12 <ZachThibeau> when I mean my (usually implies my copy to let you guys know ;))
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15:39:57 <Bensawsome> lol
15:42:56 <onestoploser> http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/02/microsoft-admits-to-defends-banning-lesbian-xbox-live-user.ars
15:43:13 <onestoploser> Continuation from yesterday.
15:47:06 <Bensawsome> o_0
15:47:52 <Bensawsome> hmmm
15:48:54 <Bensawsome> darenit ff open
15:49:25 * JohnTHaller is finishing up a special platform 1.2 build (1.1 platform + new PNG theming, wide/standard wallpapers, alpha png personal pics, app language switching, rename/hide via manual INI edit, etc) for distribution in germany next week
15:50:03 <ZachThibeau> :D
15:50:39 <JohnTHaller> gonna post it to the forums today, too. but not gonna heavily promote it as we'll release 1.5 shortly after
15:50:49 <ZachThibeau> awesome
15:51:27 <ZachThibeau> I look forward to giving it a test :)
15:52:13 <Bensawsome> :D
15:53:01 <onestoploser> Nice
15:53:38 <ZachThibeau> :)
15:54:00 <JohnTHaller> oh and hiding desktop icons, too. disabled by default. and the fade is now disabled by default
15:54:08 <ZachThibeau> ok
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15:54:09 <pabot> Wes|IT is Wesley aka windows[] || Wes irc Operator || Php Master || Suse n00b || UnrealIRCD Portable Dev || Portableapp's Support ||
15:54:17 <ZachThibeau> Wes|IT: :D
15:54:21 <ZachThibeau> welcome back
15:54:25 <Wes|IT> Zach :D
15:54:29 <Wes|IT> thanks
15:54:34 <ZachThibeau> no problem
15:54:49 <Wes|IT> i was hear last night but i don't think u were on
15:55:01 <Wes|IT> here*
15:55:07 <Wes|IT> so whats up
15:55:18 <ZachThibeau> just stuff
15:55:22 <ZachThibeau> also programming too
15:55:33 <Wes|IT> kool
15:55:54 * Wes|IT got his laptop taken away :'(
15:56:02 <ZachThibeau> I heard
15:56:12 <ZachThibeau> bummer
15:56:25 <Wes|IT> lol
15:56:46 <Wes|IT> but i get it back in about 11 months
15:57:03 <Wes|IT> u also hear about my job?
15:57:33 <ZachThibeau> nope
15:57:38 <ZachThibeau> I got a job too
15:57:41 <ZachThibeau> temporary though
15:57:49 <Wes|IT> i have to quit that in a week
15:57:58 <Wes|IT> to get school caught up
15:58:14 <ZachThibeau> working as a Janitor in our Cities Court Complex
15:58:22 <Wes|IT> well, now your uptodate :)
15:58:28 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:58:32 <Wes|IT> like it?
15:58:40 <ZachThibeau> my job
15:58:42 <ZachThibeau> no
15:58:47 <ZachThibeau> but it's money that's coming in
15:58:50 <Wes|IT> haha
15:58:53 <Wes|IT> lol
15:58:57 <Wes|IT> i gotta run
15:59:02 <ZachThibeau> later
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15:59:15 *** Wes[Cleaning] is now known as Wes[Cleaning|Sch
15:59:39 *** Wes[Cleaning|Sch is now known as Wes[School]
16:01:48 <Wes[School]> hey zach, is mirc the only portable irc client?
16:01:54 *** Wes[School] is now known as Wes[Busy]
16:02:13 <JohnTHaller> oh, and the menu will be partially transparent if you want (another INI setting)
16:02:14 <Wes[Busy]> i got to wait on my mom to do school
16:02:14 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Wes[Busy]: no, Xchat is the official portable IRC client
16:02:24 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> plus pidgin and miranda
16:02:32 <Wes[Busy]> k, thanks gizmo
16:02:33 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> and Virc and KVirc are both portable, just not PA official
16:02:39 <Wes[Busy]> k
16:02:46 <Wes[Busy]> John, What?
16:03:05 <Wes[Busy]> wrong windows?
16:03:09 <Wes[Busy]> window*
16:04:04 <Wes[Busy]> JohnTHaller: were u talkin to me?
16:04:41 <JohnTHaller> working on a 1.2 platform release to post today. mainly so openoffice.org can distrubute it next week. has some of the 1.5 features (png theme, app lang switching, installer menu refresh, rename/hide with manual ini edit, hide desktop icons optionally, fade disabled by default, alpha transparency of menu selectable by user, etc)
16:05:30 <Wes[Busy]> i musta missed something
16:13:47 <Wes[Busy]> gtg, moms ready
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16:44:33 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :D
16:45:04 <ZachThibeau> howdy TimClark
16:45:31 <TimClark> Hello fello p-appsian ZachThibeau :D
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16:45:59 <pabot> sar3th is working on LyX portable
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16:46:11 <sar3th> heya all
16:46:21 <buckets> hey
16:49:41 * ZachThibeau wonders if everyone here tested out NSISPortable PR3 yet :)
16:50:08 * JohnTHaller wonders when ZachThibeau will stop being all like ME ME ME :-P
16:50:17 <ZachThibeau> :P sprry
16:50:25 * TimClark Knows ZachThibeau didn't mean him :P
16:50:36 <ZachThibeau> **sorry I meant :P
16:50:49 * JohnTHaller is kidding :-P
16:51:05 <ZachThibeau> I know hence the :-P smily
16:51:20 <ZachThibeau> wow I can't spell today :/
16:51:33 <TimClark> Log Note: The next person who shows tracking information about another user without good cause in the channel is going to be kick/banned
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16:51:56 <JohnTHaller> /me's progress on Platform 1.2: renaming, OEM and other GUIs hidden, INI manual features added, backup/restore/menu now in PortableApps.com directory, finishing locale env vars for app lang switching
16:52:16 <ZachThibeau> cool
16:52:22 <andreasma> hi
16:52:33 <ZachThibeau> howdy andreasma
16:52:40 <andreasma> hi ZachThibeau
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17:30:19 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
17:30:59 <ZachThibeau> tgif :D
17:32:22 <ZachThibeau> for those that are wondering what tgif is it's thank goodness it's friday :D
17:37:48 <onestoploser> lol
17:44:47 <MaienM> no tgif :(
17:45:00 <MaienM> friday means vacation is almost over :(
17:46:20 <Bensawsome> >_>
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17:50:35 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: how was the shoe :)
17:50:59 <Scriptdaemon> I had a dream last night that NSIS was officially released.
17:51:00 <Scriptdaemon> XD
17:51:33 <JohnTHaller> peeps gonna be here in about 10 minutes for a quick test of platform 1.2 before release??
17:51:46 <ZachThibeau> I am for sure ;D
17:52:01 <MaienM> I am
17:52:01 <Scriptdaemon> I picked a good time to come in it seems.
17:52:09 <MaienM> *starts up his VM*
17:53:06 <Scriptdaemon> The new wipe disk free space option in CCleaner takes forever on a 1TB HDD.
17:56:13 * Mir thinks about heading for work
17:57:47 <onestoploser> Bah Mir. Forget about it.
17:57:50 <onestoploser> lol
17:59:35 <Mir> i neez monies
17:59:58 <Mir> monies for games and more flash drives to put more portable apps
17:59:59 <Mir> :D
18:00:50 <Scriptdaemon> Will 1.2 install over the mods?
18:02:11 <JohnTHaller> dunno. won't be tested
18:02:36 <Scriptdaemon> Ah, so I should probably uninstall first.
18:02:51 <JohnTHaller> it'll be next to. it uses a new path
18:03:25 <Scriptdaemon> Just for the test release?
18:03:30 <JohnTHaller> permanently
18:03:36 <Scriptdaemon> Ah.
18:03:50 <JohnTHaller> The PortableAppsMenu and PortableAppsBackup directories are gone. All is in X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com from now on
18:04:12 <Bensawsome> so i assume the StartPortableApps.exe will be changed for the new path JohnTHaller?
18:04:12 <Scriptdaemon> Cool.
18:04:22 <Bensawsome> thats a good directory ^_^
18:04:31 <JohnTHaller> Ok, download this: http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform_1.2_TEST1.7z
18:04:34 <Bensawsome> :D
18:04:54 <JohnTHaller> In your X:\PortableApps directory, create a PortableApps.com directory. Extract what you just downloaded into there and run PortableAppsPlatform.exe
18:05:03 <Bensawsome> kk
18:05:04 <JohnTHaller> Yes, StartPortableApps.exe will be updated for the actual release
18:05:11 <Bensawsome> cool ^_^
18:05:46 <Bensawsome> also JohnTHaller, is the source available for the startportableapps.exe? for some reason i couldnt find it :/
18:05:57 <JohnTHaller> it's part of the platform source download
18:06:02 <JohnTHaller> it's like 2 lines
18:06:05 <JohnTHaller> well, 10 now
18:06:46 <Bensawsome> lol ok
18:06:57 <Bensawsome> i just need to make a simple launcher.... thats all :/
18:07:37 <JohnTHaller> Ok, everybody with me? Got it downloaded, extracted and running?
18:07:47 <Scriptdaemon> Ja.
18:07:50 <Bensawsome> lol no sry >_>
18:07:54 <Bensawsome> just keep going
18:07:59 <Bensawsome> ill look at scrollback ^_^
18:08:33 <JohnTHaller> Ok, first, make sure the new menu looks right with the new PNGbased theme. It shouldn't fade it, just appear. Rollovers are subtler.
18:08:47 <JohnTHaller> Is anybody else caught up? Cmon guys
18:09:11 <Scriptdaemon> Seems good to me so far.
18:09:13 <MaienM> works just like you say so far
18:09:50 <JohnTHaller> Ok, new features...
18:09:50 <JohnTHaller> 1. CTRL-click on an icon in the menu and it'll let you run it as admin.
18:09:52 <sar3th> /me caught up
18:10:25 <MaienM> check, admin run works
18:10:28 <Scriptdaemon> Nice.
18:10:29 <sar3th> check
18:10:51 <ZachThibeau> very nice
18:10:56 <Bensawsome> shit. i think somethin is wrong with my portable hard drive :O
18:11:01 <JohnTHaller> Ok. Next, language switch. Click Options and then Language and pick another langauge... like Spanish or soemthing easy. Then launch Pidgin or GIMP.
18:11:11 <JohnTHaller> Bensawsome: Ok, just keep quiet while we work then
18:11:23 <Bensawsome> kk
18:12:04 <MaienM> works perfectly with both xchat and notepad++
18:12:25 <JohnTHaller> that's our cool new language switcher. should work with most official multilingual apps when you have all langs installed.
18:12:43 <MaienM> sweet
18:12:57 <sar3th> nice
18:13:05 <Scriptdaemon> Pidgin is still in English fro me.
18:13:16 <Scriptdaemon> for*
18:13:19 <JohnTHaller> Ok, next. Try installing a new app, but don't do it through Options - Install a new app. One of our newer PA.c apps using the current installer.
18:14:16 <JohnTHaller> hmm... german works with pidgin... spanish doesn't. checking...
18:14:25 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, I was using Spanish.
18:14:38 <JohnTHaller> when you install a new app. the menu should autorefresh and show the icon even if you install it outside the menu
18:15:01 <ZachThibeau> cool
18:15:29 <JohnTHaller> actually, spanish works for me, I just checked
18:15:39 <MaienM> didn't do the refresh thing for me JohnTHaller :(
18:15:43 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: did you manually define the langauge in the pidgin ini?
18:15:48 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: what app did you install?
18:16:00 <MaienM> TheManaWorldPortable
18:16:00 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, nope.
18:16:16 <MaienM> using the newest installer
18:16:17 <sar3th> JohnTHaller: no autorefresh as well
18:16:32 <Scriptdaemon> Same, using Miranda.
18:16:43 <sar3th> using command_prompt_portable
18:16:55 <JohnTHaller> use one of our major apps
18:17:08 <sar3th> filezilla?
18:17:14 <JohnTHaller> nvm
18:17:17 <JohnTHaller> hold on that issue
18:19:23 <JohnTHaller> alright... refresh is out for now, i'll post a new test that fixes it shortly (have file layout wrong)
18:19:40 <JohnTHaller> next, try setting your personal picture in the upper right to an alpha transparent PNG
18:20:17 <sar3th> neat
18:21:45 <Scriptdaemon> How do I do that?
18:21:56 <JohnTHaller> click on it and pick a file
18:21:59 <sar3th> click in the upper right corner
18:22:35 <Scriptdaemon> Ah, I see. It was showing the cross arrows for me.
18:23:31 <MaienM> looks good
18:23:48 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: when you installed pidgin, did you install "Additional Languages"
18:24:24 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm. Maybe I didn't. I usually do, but now that you mention it I'll check.
18:25:14 <Scriptdaemon> Oh, guess I didn't.
18:25:28 <JohnTHaller> ok, that's solved
18:25:36 <JohnTHaller> now, how bout some manual INI editing advanced stuff
18:26:22 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: do you know if 1.5 is going to support the use of xenon or is that for a future release?
18:26:29 <JohnTHaller> Close the menu. Edit your PortableAppsMenu.ini within the PortableApps.com\Data directory and add this line to the end of the file: FadeMenu=true
18:26:55 <sar3th> buggy
18:26:56 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: No, it will not. Later release. We won't be pushing Xenon too heavily until it hits 2.0
18:27:04 <ZachThibeau> awesome :)
18:27:05 <JohnTHaller> please stay on topic now
18:27:12 <JohnTHaller> Close the menu. Edit your PortableAppsMenu.ini within the PortableApps.com\Data directory and add this line to the end of the file: FadeMenu=true
18:27:16 <JohnTHaller> then restart the menu
18:27:22 <sar3th> it fades in and out again, repeatedly
18:27:26 <ZachThibeau> same here
18:27:45 <JohnTHaller> Ok. Edit the same file. And add this line to the end: AlphaBlendMain=200
18:28:08 <JohnTHaller> then run the menu again
18:28:19 <ZachThibeau> it runs but looks transparent
18:28:24 <ZachThibeau> which looks cool though :)
18:28:37 <JohnTHaller> it's adjustable. 0 - 255. higher the number, less transparent
18:28:55 <sar3th> confirmed
18:29:37 <JohnTHaller> Ok, close menu again. Ditch those lines we added if you'd like. And edit this line or add it to the end if not present: HideDesktopIcons=True
18:30:08 <sar3th> desktop icons disappered
18:30:20 <sar3th> they restore properly when exiting
18:30:40 <MaienM> same
18:30:45 <ZachThibeau> nothing for vista
18:30:57 * MaienM shoots Vista
18:31:18 * sar3th reloads MainenM's gun
18:31:30 <JohnTHaller> alright... ignore vista for now
18:31:53 <ZachThibeau> ok
18:33:05 <sar3th> language selection works perfectly with filezilla portable, i just checked it
18:33:14 <JohnTHaller> Ok, more manual INI editng. Edit the same PortableAppsMenu.ini file. Add these two lines to the end:
18:33:23 <JohnTHaller> [AppsRenamed]
18:33:23 <JohnTHaller> firefoxportable\firefoxportable.exe=Firefox Rocks
18:33:36 <JohnTHaller> then launch the menu
18:34:09 <sar3th> check
18:34:19 <MaienM> check
18:34:27 <JohnTHaller> i left in the functionality but removed the GUI for renaming for 1.2. it'll be in 1.5.
18:34:33 <ZachThibeau> still testing
18:35:16 <JohnTHaller> cmon zach
18:36:21 <ZachThibeau> confirmed
18:36:34 <ZachThibeau> ok the desktop thing isn't working in xp either for me
18:36:49 <JohnTHaller> it won't work if you have live desktop enabled
18:36:54 <JohnTHaller> live desktop = fail
18:36:59 <ZachThibeau> no live desktop
18:37:06 <JohnTHaller> or any other odd desktop customizations
18:37:10 <ZachThibeau> nope
18:37:18 <MaienM> ZachThibeau: your sidebar?
18:37:18 <ZachThibeau> just a clean desktop
18:37:24 <ZachThibeau> turned off
18:37:34 <JohnTHaller> did you close the menu, then edit the file ensuring there is no duplicate entries, then open it?
18:37:47 <ZachThibeau> I did check and no duplicates
18:37:53 <JohnTHaller> with the menu closed
18:37:58 <JohnTHaller> you can only edit that file with the menu close
18:38:18 <ZachThibeau> yes with the menu closed
18:38:50 <ZachThibeau> xp pro sp3
18:39:01 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: close your menu. open up the PortableAppsMenu.ini file. Remove the extra entries we added for rename/hide/etc. edit it so it should hide the desktop. save it. then paste it in here
18:39:11 <ZachThibeau> sure
18:39:51 <ZachThibeau> ok confirmed working again
18:40:05 <JohnTHaller> desktop icons hidden?
18:40:09 <ZachThibeau> yup
18:40:13 <JohnTHaller> ok, cool
18:40:15 <ZachThibeau> testing in vista again
18:40:23 <JohnTHaller> ok...
18:40:44 <ZachThibeau> ok working in vista now
18:40:56 <ZachThibeau> seems I did miss a duplicate
18:41:03 <JohnTHaller> ok, last ini edit. close menu. edit ini. add these lines to end:
18:41:11 <JohnTHaller> [AppsHidden]
18:41:11 <JohnTHaller> thunderbirdportable\thunderbirdportable.exe=true
18:41:42 <MaienM> works
18:41:46 <Scriptdaemon> What about apps with multiple icons?
18:41:57 <ZachThibeau> confirmed
18:42:00 <Scriptdaemon> And you don't want to hide all the icons.
18:42:22 <MaienM> Scriptdaemon: you specify which .exe to hide (thunderbirdportable.exe in this case)so that should work fine
18:42:38 <Scriptdaemon> Ah.
18:43:04 <JohnTHaller> right, it's per icon. and will be changing in 1.5 since this doesn't yet handle PortableApps.com Format
18:44:13 <ZachThibeau> ok bug in that hidden thing specifically OpenOffice
18:44:29 <JohnTHaller> what bug
18:44:42 <MaienM> are you sure you typed both the foldername and exename correctly?
18:44:51 <ZachThibeau> actually not so much of a bug. I think the menu hides on purpose OpenOfficePortable.exe
18:45:05 <JohnTHaller> it does
18:45:07 <JohnTHaller> it always has
18:45:14 <ZachThibeau> ahh ok
18:45:35 <JohnTHaller> actually, i should remove that bit now
18:45:42 <JohnTHaller> since oo.o now installs with all icons locally
18:48:05 <ZachThibeau> I think I actually found a bug for openoffice and the hiding thing :O
18:48:18 <JohnTHaller> just say what it is
18:48:25 <ZachThibeau> I hid everything except OpenOfficeWriterPortable.exe
18:48:35 <ZachThibeau> doesn't show it
18:48:44 <JohnTHaller> paste your ini to be sure
18:48:49 <ZachThibeau> sure
18:48:56 <JohnTHaller> pastebin
18:49:15 <ZachThibeau> http://zachthibeau.pastebin.com/m591ae4a2
18:49:48 <JohnTHaller> the whole ini please
18:50:08 <ZachThibeau> sorry about that http://zachthibeau.pastebin.com/m7574fc9b
18:50:36 <JohnTHaller> remove them one at a time and see when writer comes back
18:50:49 <ZachThibeau> sure
18:50:55 <JohnTHaller> thx
18:51:34 <ZachThibeau> ok I removed Math from the list and both are showing
18:52:09 <JohnTHaller> add math back and remove impress
18:52:14 <ZachThibeau> sure
18:52:49 <ZachThibeau> Impress and Writer are showing
18:53:12 <JohnTHaller> try same with others, please
18:53:16 <JohnTHaller> really odd
18:53:16 <ZachThibeau> will do
18:53:37 <ZachThibeau> ok I readded the other entries and it's now showing just Writer now :/
18:53:49 <MaienM> ZachThibeau: are you sure you didn't mess anything up with exiting and saving?
18:53:56 <ZachThibeau> I'm positive
18:54:46 <JohnTHaller> hmmm... dunno
18:55:11 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: I'll show you my new ini structure and compare that with the one I gave you before
18:55:19 <ZachThibeau> http://zachthibeau.pastebin.com/m3e8445f1
18:55:33 <ZachThibeau> the math and impress are in 2 different spots on the list
18:55:40 <MaienM> try to switch math and impress again?
18:55:46 <ZachThibeau> when I put them back writer dissapears
18:56:01 <JohnTHaller> really friggin odd
18:56:49 <ZachThibeau> but when I put in xp it sorts it self out
18:56:56 <ZachThibeau> and works like it should
18:57:07 <ZachThibeau> going to put it in vista again and see what happens
18:57:34 <ZachThibeau> hmm it's working
18:58:16 <JohnTHaller> could vista be caching something odd?
18:58:22 <ZachThibeau> I dunno
18:58:32 <ZachThibeau> could also be the sp2 beta that I am running
18:58:40 <MaienM> vista is evil enough for it....
18:59:35 <ZachThibeau> thats probably it, the prebeta of sp2
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19:07:12 <pabot> ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/
19:07:13 <JohnTHaller> please NEVER test on beta OS anything
19:07:26 <ptmb> Hi Everybody, Hi JohnTHaller
19:08:01 <ZachThibeau> well there is no friggin way I'm going back to sp1 not until I get more ram, as sp2 beta is making my system stable atm
19:08:43 <ZachThibeau> but I'll move testing to xp for now :)
19:12:25 <JohnTHaller> Ok, figured out the refresh issue. Gonna post Test2 now...
19:12:37 <ZachThibeau> awesome
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19:14:54 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform_1.2_TEST2.7z
19:15:12 <JohnTHaller> extract right over your X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com dir contents
19:15:24 <Neoman> hi there
19:15:39 <JohnTHaller> then run menu, install app like command prompt portable without going through menu... menu should refresh
19:16:08 <Neoman> is it possible to show the bookmarks bar in fullscreen mode?
19:16:32 <JohnTHaller> Um... what bookmarks bar?
19:16:41 <ZachThibeau> firefox I am assuming
19:16:55 <JohnTHaller> what do you mean by full screen mode?
19:17:05 <Neoman> JohnTHaller FFP toolbar
19:17:07 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: worked
19:17:12 <sar3th> JohnTHaller: works
19:17:20 <JohnTHaller> Neoman: What do you mean?
19:17:26 <JohnTHaller> To organize them?
19:17:33 <JohnTHaller> Bookmarks - Organize Bookmarks
19:17:45 <Neoman> no. i mean permanently showing it
19:17:47 <JohnTHaller> Or do you mean when you hit F11
19:17:57 <Neoman> when clicking F11
19:17:59 <Neoman> yes
19:18:21 <Neoman> this "browser.fullscreen.autohide" only shows the tbas
19:18:23 <Neoman> *tabs
19:18:49 <TimClark> his request is simple, in FS mode you can't see the bookmarks toolbar, is it posslbe to change that
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19:19:28 <JohnTHaller> I don't think so, Neoman. Google yields few results. Mostly workarounds: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=325910
19:19:31 <JohnTHaller> So, the answer is no
19:20:56 <JohnTHaller> install refresh work for everyone in TEST2?
19:21:01 <MaienM> Neoman: you could however ask in #firefox
19:21:06 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: works for me
19:21:09 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: confirmed :)
19:21:19 <MaienM> however, it is impossible to delete a app while the menu is running....
19:21:44 <ZachThibeau> you sure MaienM
19:21:57 <ZachThibeau> I just removed an app while the menu was running
19:22:16 <MaienM> lemme try again
19:22:20 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: you just delete the dir. then options - refresh menu icons
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19:22:33 <JohnTHaller> unless you did something in the app folder that caused Widnows to lock the file
19:23:02 <MaienM> "Can't remove folder x: It is being used by another person or program."
19:23:12 <ZachThibeau> hmm
19:23:26 <JohnTHaller> install unlocker. then right click on the folder and select unlock
19:23:43 <MaienM> running as administrator btw, from the C: disk, could one of those be the issue?
19:23:53 <JohnTHaller> C can be an issue sometimes
19:23:55 <sar3th> MaienM: http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/
19:24:09 <JohnTHaller> it'll tell you what's locking it
19:24:33 <JohnTHaller> actually, it is a bug. confirmed.
19:24:49 <JohnTHaller> reintroduced it. was in 1.0.x. fixed in 1.1. it's back
19:25:05 <MaienM> according to unlocker, the menu is locking it.
19:25:11 <MaienM> k
19:26:43 <ZachThibeau> hmm thats really odd
19:26:53 <ZachThibeau> because I can remove apps without that happening to me
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19:33:33 <Neoman> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4650
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19:33:45 <Neoman> works perfectly
19:34:34 <Neoman> Thanks guys
19:35:17 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: do you still need the translation?
19:37:59 <JohnTHaller> if you have time and can post it. not sure if it'll get in 1.2. but 1.5 it will
19:39:12 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: ok :-)
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19:48:10 <JohnTHaller> Ok, figured out what the locking issue is
19:48:24 <JohnTHaller> Ohm btw, try out backup and restore and make sure they look and work ok, please
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19:49:59 <MaienM> testing it now
19:51:46 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform_1.2_TEST3.7z
19:52:05 <JohnTHaller> extract over X;\PortableApps\PortableApps.com. should fix app directory locking issue
19:55:24 <JohnTHaller> anybody?
19:56:41 <MaienM> still doesn't work for me :S
19:57:07 <MaienM> unlocked showed two locks from the menu before, only shows one now
19:57:12 <MaienM> so I guess its half solved
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20:07:25 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
20:08:14 <markomlm> hello @all
20:08:19 <MaienM> hello markomlm
20:08:40 <markomlm> hello MaienM
20:08:42 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: in the line "Backup Directory (Filename: $BACKUPFILENAME-Type)", what do you want with the part "-Type" ?
20:10:25 <JohnTHaller> hi markomlm
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20:10:55 <JohnTHaller> guntbert: It's the backup type would go there in the name. It winds up being "complete", "documents" or "appdata". It's a representation
20:11:22 <markomlm> hi JohnTHaller :-)
20:11:33 <JohnTHaller> markomlm: In a standard portableapps.com setup, create a directort X:\PortableApps\Portableapps.com and extract this to it: http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform_1.2_TEST3.7z
20:12:06 <markomlm> Thanks a lot!
20:12:21 <JohnTHaller> you can place this file in X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data to get the OO.o personal icon: PersonalPicture.png
20:12:39 <JohnTHaller> oops. http://portableapps.com/temp/PersonalPicture.png
20:12:56 <JohnTHaller> markomlm: we're just about ready. i've been running tests with IRC users to iron out the last few bugs
20:13:02 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: ah ok, I confess, I didn't understand it in the utility itself neither, but I'll keep it
20:14:32 <JohnTHaller> markomlm: I have the rest of the apps laid out and ready. unfortunately, i didn't get a pa backup translation in time to update it. had anotehr couple hours work on it anyway. but it'll be ready to go and looking good within a few hours
20:14:34 <ZachThibeau> latert all
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20:15:51 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: still locked for me, however unlocked showed two locks from the menu before, only shows one now, so I guess its half solved
20:16:01 <markomlm> Sounds great JohnTHaller
20:16:23 <JohnTHaller> close all running instances
20:16:33 <JohnTHaller> then run unlocker to be sure
20:16:36 <JohnTHaller> then re-run
20:16:55 * markomlm likes the new clear PortableApps.com icon in the installer
20:17:11 <JohnTHaller> which installer?
20:17:54 <MaienM> works fine now, for most apps.... guess the locks didn't all get removed properly
20:18:17 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: i think i have it
20:20:08 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: atm only the folders containing apps/showing up in the menu are locked, empty/invalid ones are not
20:20:25 <JohnTHaller> yeah, i know. i just figured out what it was
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20:21:55 * markomlm the last one, but could be it looks better because I change my system settings ...
20:22:33 <JohnTHaller> Ok, this should fix all locking issues: http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform_1.2_TEST4.7z
20:25:00 <markomlm> JohnTHaller:PortableApps.com Platform is shown in the menu???
20:25:20 <JohnTHaller> yeah. i need to change the filter on that still. these are tests for features and stuff
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20:25:42 <markomlm> ok
20:25:45 <MaienM> markomlm: its not when its in the subfolder "PortableApps.com" (casesensitive afaik)
20:25:49 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: works fine now :D
20:26:25 <JohnTHaller> if you still have the old 1.1 in there, it shows up
20:27:30 <markomlm> ok
20:28:48 <JohnTHaller> try switching lang of menu and then starting pidgin or notepad++ or something
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20:40:37 <markomlm> JohnTHaller:works great, the App is show in the menu after install and starts in German. I'll change the Updater to use the environment variable too
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20:44:42 <JohnTHaller> there are multiple env vars you can use. in nsis, it's easiest to use PortableApps.comLocaleID
20:44:49 <JohnTHaller> good example in the installer of it
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20:46:10 <pa_3885> how can i change the colour of he portable app manager
20:46:58 <pa_3885> how can i change the colour of he portable app manager
20:46:59 <pa_3885> how can i change the colour of he portable app manager
20:47:00 <JohnTHaller> pa_3885: if you mean the portableapps.com menu, there are some unofficial themes in zip format for the current release floating around. the 1.5 release which is being posted in the next couple days will allow you to theme it better
20:47:01 <pa_3885> ?
20:47:06 <JohnTHaller> STOP MULTIPOSTING PLEASE
20:47:16 <pa_3885> sorry
20:47:32 <pa_3885> any website
20:47:34 <pa_3885> ?
20:48:11 <markomlm> ok I'll test a little bit more tomorrow. btw. Uninstall works now with security ask and data switch :-)
20:48:27 <pa_3885> ?
20:49:56 <markomlm> bye for now. pa_3885. last post was adressed to JohnTHaller
20:50:24 <markomlm> bye
20:50:28 <markomlm> :-)
20:50:47 <Bensawsome> pa_3885: on the portableapps.com website
20:50:56 <JohnTHaller> bye markomlm
20:51:02 <Bensawsome> you need to search the site
20:51:05 <JohnTHaller> pa_3885: how to hereL: http://ptc.kain-planet.de/tutorial.php
20:51:28 <JohnTHaller> themes in old zip format here: http://ptc.kain-planet.de/files.php?cat=2
20:51:52 <TimClark> http://portableapps.com/node/4637
20:51:52 <Bensawsome> oh ya that too ^_^
20:52:42 <Bensawsome> oh nice TimClark ^_^ also pa_3885 look at what TimClark posted :)
20:52:59 <pa_3885> k thanks
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20:53:19 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
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20:53:34 <JohnTHaller> KevinPorter: hi
20:53:42 <TimClark> hey there KevinPorter
20:53:43 <pa_0162> can i suggest something to you guys
20:53:44 <pa_0162> ?
20:53:44 <KevinPorter> Afternoon JohnTHaller. :)
20:53:55 <KevinPorter> 'Allo TimClark. :)
20:53:57 <pa_0162> its short
20:54:01 <JohnTHaller> KevinPorter: create a folder X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com and extract this into it to test: http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform_1.2_TEST4.7z
20:54:01 <TimClark> pa_0162: suggest away :)
20:54:07 <JohnTHaller> pa_0162: sup?
20:54:18 <pa_0162> can u guys make the icons for the apps bigger
20:54:22 <KevinPorter> JohnTHaller: Right away. :)
20:54:35 <JohnTHaller> pa_0162: on the lefthand side?
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20:54:41 <pa_0162> yah
20:55:05 <JohnTHaller> they're currently 16x16 pixels. we may do an option for 32x32 icons in the themes in the 2.0 release ni a couple months
20:55:16 <pa_0162> ok thanks
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20:55:39 <JohnTHaller> KevinPorter: get the irc log to see everything that should be tested
20:55:48 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, I tried with the plattform 1.2 on a fresh usb device. I see only the PortableApps.com Platform text inside the window.
20:56:04 <Gizmokid2005> hello KevinPorter, JohnTHaller, TimClark
20:56:16 <JohnTHaller> it's meant to be installed into an existing install of pa like the suite. it's not a full installer yet
20:56:22 <andreasma> I can't get access to the folders for docs etc.
20:56:25 <KevinPorter> Hi Gizmokid2005. :)
20:56:30 <JohnTHaller> andreasma: can you post a screenshot?
20:56:41 <sar3th> JohnTHaller: ->ot
20:56:41 <TimClark> hello Gizmokid2005 :D, and /Back In a Bit :)
20:56:49 <JohnTHaller> I've tested it even down to Windows 98 and it works fine for me
20:57:04 <TimClark> sar3th: are you trying to be funny :-(
20:57:16 <sar3th> no i want him to join in -ot
20:57:24 <sar3th> oh sry
20:57:27 <sar3th> confused
20:57:35 <sar3th> forget everything
20:57:59 <JohnTHaller> alright... i gotta run for a couple hours. will post more when I return. please share the platfrom details with other regulars until then
20:57:59 <TimClark> generally say, please join me "JohnTHaller: ->ot " implies you SHOULD be in -ot :O
20:58:10 * JohnTHaller JohnTHaller|away
20:58:54 <onestoploser> lol
20:59:15 <Bensawsome> lol
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21:02:50 <Bensawsome> trouble: really sar3th?
21:02:52 <Bensawsome> lol
21:03:03 <trouble> yarly Bensawsome ^^
21:03:14 <Bensawsome> XD
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21:03:56 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: is the name of the "documents" folder localized too?
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21:15:02 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, the screenshot is here: http://amantke.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=70&Itemid=38
21:17:04 <TimClark> andreasma: i "think" he meant to set himself as away "14:58.19 JohnTHaller JohnTHaller|away"
21:17:52 <andreasma> TimClark, I'm not fast enough
21:18:57 <guntbert> TimClark: the german translation for the backup utility is ready, where shall I post it for JohnTHaller ?
21:19:31 <TimClark> i would suggest that the forums: moment please
21:20:00 <TimClark> here : http://portableapps.com/forums/other_languages/localization
21:20:10 <ptmb> I must admit that after taking a look at the skinning system, I am really wanting the new release to come out :D
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21:28:23 <guntbert> TimClark: If you've got a little time - please look my posting once over if it fits :)
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21:29:44 <TimClark> guntbert: it would help if you gave me a link to your post :P
21:30:00 <JohnTHaller> ok, back for a minute
21:30:25 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: read back the last few minutes please
21:30:30 <JohnTHaller> did
21:30:46 <JohnTHaller> not quite sure what andreasma's issue is
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21:31:49 <rcmaehl> .seen gluxon
21:31:50 <pabot> rcmaehl: I last saw gluxon at 2009-02-27 00:52:00 UTC on #portableapps-dev
21:32:05 <guntbert> TimClark: sorry :) http://portableapps.com/node/18264, the last reply
21:32:22 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: i'll let you give it "the once over " :P
21:33:46 <JohnTHaller> looks good
21:33:55 <JohnTHaller> thanks a lot guntbert :-)
21:34:18 <TimClark> /BBS
21:34:25 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: glad to help :)
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21:35:03 <JohnTHaller> guntbert: you want to be listed as your pa login or your full name on the about page?
21:36:41 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: pa is fine :-) (not that it makes a big difference, I suppose there are about 5 people with my first name)
21:37:03 <JohnTHaller> we prefer full names but are happy with nicks like your login
21:37:47 <JohnTHaller> i found a few guntberts :-)
21:37:59 <KevinPorter> JohnTHaller: I tested the new Platform. Looks good, but I'll have to take a look on Vista a little later.
21:38:18 <rcmaehl> hey guys if you see gluxon tell him we need to talk IMMEDIATELY!
21:38:40 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: ok then, please use my full name, just didn't know about your policy
21:39:04 <JohnTHaller> not a policy, just a preference. if you'd rather use your login, that's perfectly fine :-)
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21:41:22 <pabot> Simeon is a Developer at PortableApps.com
21:41:36 <Simeon> Hi All! :)
21:44:09 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: how are the dutch translations?
21:44:25 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: use my full name as stated within the translation, I supposed the preferences were otherwise
21:45:02 <JohnTHaller> hi Simeon
21:45:19 <Simeon> Hi John
21:45:21 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: I think they're ok. download the upcoming menu and chec: http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform_1.2_TEST4.7z
21:45:53 <Simeon> Is that an unofficial alpha?
21:47:06 <JohnTHaller> Simeon: not quite. it's going to the OO.o folks for distro next week. i'm gonna post it as an actual release tonight. just not gonna promote it much since 1.5 will be on its heels
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21:48:05 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: the about page is not in dutch
21:48:22 <Simeon> ok. What OO.o distro is that?
21:48:29 <MaienM> nor is the backup/restore
21:48:41 <JohnTHaller> nope. about isn't trabnslarted
21:48:48 <JohnTHaller> nor is backup/restore
21:48:53 <JohnTHaller> will be later
21:49:08 <JohnTHaller> Simeon: that's just the platform test. will be with oo.o 3.0.1
21:49:10 <MaienM> k
21:50:01 <SilentWalker> wow john...the alpha looks great!
21:50:15 <MaienM> well aside from that that translations look fine to me (altho I personally prefer using the english version of stuff :P)
21:50:32 <JohnTHaller> ptmb: you ain't seen nothing yet with theming. 1.5 will be the real launch of the new theme format... theme switcher will be an addonm, though. 2.0 will get that plus advanced themes (resize forms + user pickable colors)
21:51:10 <ptmb> wow :-O I will pay very attention to the nesxt releases :D
21:51:13 <JohnTHaller> guntbert: yer on our about pageL
21:51:35 <SilentWalker> JohnTHaller: do u have a list of the added/modified features?
21:51:35 <SilentWalker> JohnTHaller:when r those releases intended for?
21:52:57 <Simeon> JohnTHaller: So you're packaging the platform with OOO? I still dont get the point but I guess I will once its released...:)
21:52:58 <JohnTHaller> 1.2 has: alpha png theme, app lang switcher (menu lang controls app lang), ctrl click for run as admin, fix free space calc, hide desktop icons with ini switch, alpha blend menu with ini change, rename/hide icons with manual ini update (gui coming in 1.5, just not translated yet)
21:53:16 <JohnTHaller> Simeon: No. OO.o is giving away flash drives with Suite 1.2 in german on it next week
21:53:24 <Simeon> ah
21:53:29 <JohnTHaller> hence the rushed 1.2 platform release which falls between 1.1 and 1.5 in terms of features
21:53:31 <Simeon> do you know where?
21:53:39 <JohnTHaller> at that huge german computer show
21:53:52 <Simeon> do you happen to know the name?
21:53:54 <ptmb> cool
21:54:22 <Simeon> guess its the cebit in hannover...
21:54:35 <SilentWalker> JohnTHaller: and can u answer my 2nd question? when r those releases intended for?
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21:54:52 <Simeon> thats really cool. And they advertise the release of the portable version on the main german oage! *me happy*
21:55:47 <Simeon> they even have a presentation of OOO Portable!!!
21:56:00 <ptmb> cool
21:57:06 <onestoploser> Tht IS cool.
21:57:10 <onestoploser> #That
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21:57:21 <guntbert> JohnTHaller: nice :)
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21:58:12 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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22:00:25 <TimClark> rcmaehl: and gluxon, pm please [w/ each other]
22:00:54 <gluxon> We always do.
22:01:58 <TimClark> you know what i meant, no need to comment
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22:02:28 <TimClark> gluxon: he was using us as his messenger service :-(
22:03:00 <gluxon> Really? :(
22:03:04 <MaienM> "<rcmaehl> hey guys if you see gluxon tell him we need to talk IMMEDIATELY"
22:03:05 <gluxon> He has his own channel anyway.
22:03:12 <gluxon> ...
22:03:17 <TimClark> enough
22:03:25 <gluxon> Okay
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22:04:05 <Simeon> HI Tim :)
22:04:27 <TimClark> Hello simeon, long time no see :D
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22:08:38 <TimClark> :-(
22:10:48 <JohnTHaller> mm taco bell
22:10:51 <Simeon> I'm still not here ;)
22:11:07 * JohnTHaller is not here. Or is he?
22:13:26 <Simeon> Tim? he was...
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22:19:38 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
22:19:47 <rbrt13> greetings
22:20:18 <Simeon> hi
22:21:10 <SilentWalker> hi...if its not 2 much trouble.....is it possible for a mod on PortableApps.com to change my username or, if its not possible, delete my account?
22:23:43 <SilentWalker> well...any reply?
22:23:49 <TimClark> it's not that easy, SilentWalker , only John or Ryan can do it I think,
22:24:04 <TimClark> be patient SilentWalker , some of us type slow
22:24:30 <SilentWalker> of...ok...and Tim...u don't kno who i am?
22:24:30 <SilentWalker> and no u dnot...u type a lot faster than me.....:P
22:24:51 <TimClark> what is your name on the fourm SilentWalker
22:25:35 <SilentWalker> im MGhany.....mikaeel.ghany on PA...but I dont want to use my real name anymore
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22:30:42 <andreasma> good night
22:30:57 <Bensawsome> nite ^_^
22:31:10 <JohnTHaller> SilentWalker: what do you want your nick to be
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22:31:42 <SilentWalker> same as here..."SilentWalker"....and thanks for even considering my request:D
22:32:08 <JohnTHaller> send email to developers email addres (on pa contact page) from your current email used in your act and i'll change it
22:32:29 <Simeon> JohnTHaller: Do you plan to do something about the .dvdcss folder left by vlc if it is used to play encrypted dvds?
22:32:40 <JohnTHaller> yeah.
22:32:46 <JohnTHaller> just missed it on the last release
22:32:51 <SilentWalker> JohnTHaller: huh....i dont understand that quite clearly?
22:33:13 <Bensawsome> act= account
22:33:40 <Simeon> Im glad to hear that... it has been there for some time now...:(
22:33:52 <JohnTHaller> developer contact here: http://portableapps.com/about/contact
22:39:51 <Simeon> John: Do you know that on the main page, the "As seen in"-section still says "updated January 29, 2009"?
22:40:19 <JohnTHaller> i'll get to it :-)
22:40:54 <Simeon> I admit it isnt SO important...
22:41:22 <JohnTHaller> in the site redesign, it'll be text so easier to edit
22:41:42 <Bensawsome> :D
22:41:52 <Bensawsome> site redesign? :D cool
22:42:24 <ptmb> site redesign? :D
22:42:31 <ptmb> I want ot get more info :D
22:42:36 <Bensawsome> ot?
22:42:36 <Bensawsome> :P
22:42:38 <JohnTHaller> well, we're just gonna get a theme refresh 1st. to match the new menu
22:42:39 <Simeon> I thought is was text - somhow embedded into the pic.
22:42:41 <ptmb> *to get more info :P
22:43:11 <Bensawsome> :D
22:43:17 <Simeon> ... and better localisation...*crosses fingers*
22:43:19 <Bensawsome> that will look SOOOOOOOOOOO NICE
22:43:28 <ptmb> I am available for any HTML + CSS help :D
22:43:32 <JohnTHaller> hang on... lemme show you
22:43:36 * Bensawsome nom ptmb's css
22:43:39 <Bensawsome> OH RLY??? :D
22:43:45 <Bensawsome> thanks ^_^
22:43:59 <ptmb> yes really! (yarly!)
22:44:02 <Bensawsome> lol
22:44:05 <ptmb> :D
22:44:14 <Bensawsome> :D
22:44:42 * ptmb notices Bensawsome doesn't understand the art ptmb can do with HTML + CSS. As people say: code is art.
22:44:51 <ptmb> :D
22:44:56 <Bensawsome> :P
22:44:59 <Bensawsome> lol
22:45:01 <Bensawsome> oh hmmm
22:45:15 <Bensawsome> hey dude can you help me with something quicly then? :D
22:45:15 <Bensawsome> lol
22:45:19 <ptmb> xD
22:45:23 <ptmb> mayyyyybe :D
22:45:30 <Bensawsome> oh wait nvrmnd XD
22:45:34 <ptmb> :P
22:45:35 <Bensawsome> i forgot i fixed that
22:45:37 <ptmb> what was?
22:45:38 <Bensawsome> lol
22:45:45 <Bensawsome> im editing sites :/
22:45:52 <Bensawsome> and the div tags piss me off
22:45:53 <ptmb> :P
22:45:56 <Bensawsome> this one: http://www.rmms.k12.ct.us/
22:46:04 <Bensawsome> someone messed up the logo
22:46:25 <ptmb> seems ok here :P
22:46:27 <Bensawsome> OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH
22:46:34 <MaienM> here too :P
22:46:40 <Bensawsome> and i made this one ptmb : http://mlktrustfund.org/ :D
22:46:44 <Bensawsome> with some help....
22:46:46 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/portableapps_redesign.png
22:46:48 <Bensawsome> but ya ^_^
22:46:50 <Bensawsome> :D
22:46:58 <ptmb> :-O
22:47:10 <Bensawsome> that looks awesome JohnTHaller :D
22:47:19 <ptmb> I kile it!
22:47:23 <ptmb> *like
22:47:43 <JohnTHaller> just a simple color update to make it match. we're doing a homepage redesign soon, too. let users pick their path (users vs hardware folks vs software folks, etc)
22:47:49 <Bensawsome> ^_^
22:47:59 <ptmb> cooooooool
22:48:06 <Bensawsome> very nice :D
22:48:18 <ptmb> (I wish I knew Javascript and php so I could help too!)
22:48:19 <Simeon> looks cool! amd the "whats new section" is already march! :P
22:48:20 <JohnTHaller> and yes, finally implementing the full l10n module and stuff so we can translate every page
22:48:28 <Bensawsome> nice ^_^
22:48:36 <ptmb> yay!
22:48:43 <Simeon> What do you mean by "let isers pick their path"?
22:48:57 <JohnTHaller> just need to rebuild our drupal install first. it's got some bugs from some upgrade issues.
22:49:10 <Bensawsome> :O
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22:49:27 <JohnTHaller> end users get what we have now. a hardware manufacturer can easily get more info on bundling the platform. a software publisher can easily find out how to get their apps in PA format
22:49:38 <JohnTHaller> (that was ansqwering Simeon)
22:49:41 <ptmb> cool
22:49:43 <Bensawsome> nite MaienM|Sleep >_>
22:49:51 <Simeon> ah.
22:49:55 <Bensawsome> ^_^
22:50:04 <JohnTHaller> make it easy for everyone to get what they need
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23:03:55 <ptmb> Bensawsome only would drive us to madness every week! :D
23:04:09 <SilentWalker> and what happens to all the posts i made....does it now display created by SilentWalker.....or am I starting fresh with no history?
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23:45:57 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Everyone!
23:48:43 <Oni-Neoxes> I think everyone died O:
23:49:01 <daBomb69> hello Oni-Neoxes
23:49:07 <TimClark> nope, just quiet, i will be leaving in a few though
23:49:14 <ptmb> Hi Oni-Neoxes
23:49:19 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
23:49:52 <ptmb> you know, what you don't know is that a few hours ago, some electric zombies attacked this chat-room, and we are all electric zombies too :D
23:50:08 <Roamer> aloha Oni-Neoxes
23:50:17 <Oni-Neoxes> <_<
23:50:26 <Roamer> ?
23:50:33 <Roamer> is it in the logs?
23:50:35 * Oni-Neoxes unloads a AK47 on ptmb
23:50:35 <ptmb> but we don't want brainnzzzzz, we want CPUzzzzz :D
23:50:46 <Oni-Neoxes> Away from my Cpuz!!!
23:50:50 <Roamer> lol
23:50:53 <ptmb> :P
23:51:29 <Roamer> that reminds me... I'm starting a zombie flash mob game at school soon... this'll be fun.
23:51:38 <Oni-Neoxes> >_>
23:51:44 <Oni-Neoxes> should be an mmorpg
23:51:45 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
23:51:45 <ptmb> :P
23:52:13 <Roamer> Basically 5 zombie players hunt the victim players. Lol.
23:52:27 <ptmb> nice
23:52:31 <Oni-Neoxes> I smell left4dead
23:52:36 <ptmb> xD
23:52:37 <Roamer> Oni-Neoxes: little does anyone know it's gonna be a LARPG
23:52:46 <Oni-Neoxes> la?
23:52:49 <Oni-Neoxes> Lan?
23:53:05 <Roamer> Live Action Role Playing Game
23:53:16 <Oni-Neoxes> do the locomotion!
23:53:17 <Oni-Neoxes> :D
23:53:28 <ptmb> xD
23:53:44 <Roamer> XD lol
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