IRC Log from 2009-03-03

00:00:15 <Oni-Neoxes> brb. playing brawl
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00:26:37 <daBomb69> Hi
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00:42:56 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
00:43:08 <dbdii407> JohnTHaller: Welcome back.
00:43:19 <JohnTHaller> sup guys
00:43:24 <daBomb69> hello JohnTHaller
00:43:40 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller. nothing much... how you doin?
00:46:18 <JohnTHaller> eh, ok. really beat still. finishing up 1.2 RC2. and waiting to do an online session with our designer (multiple theme colors for the new platform in time for release)
00:47:45 <Bensawsome> nice :)
00:48:08 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller: So, is the PAP thats been released different from the 5th test?
00:48:15 <JohnTHaller> yes
00:48:19 <daBomb69> ok
00:48:37 <daBomb69> so, do we have to deleate the test before we install the released menU?
00:48:40 <JohnTHaller> the actual platform.exe is the same as the test6, but other stuff has changed including backup/restore, start,. etc
00:48:56 <JohnTHaller> delete the test
00:48:59 <daBomb69> kk
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00:53:54 <daBomb69> We just install PAP to the drive root, right?
00:54:16 <JohnTHaller> yea
00:54:32 <daBomb69> ok, thnx
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00:58:42 <daBomb69> ne menu's AWESOME!!
00:59:11 <Bensawsome> ne? :P
00:59:26 <daBomb69> *new
01:00:10 <daBomb69> Bensawsome: yes, ne. It's bad typer language for new
01:00:16 <Bensawsome> XD
01:00:19 <gluxon> bye
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01:01:02 <daBomb69> How do u get the folders to have cool icons?
01:01:05 <Bensawsome> AGH NO DONT GO TO THE EVIL SIDE
01:01:15 <Bensawsome> daBomb69: desktop.ini in that folder
01:01:54 <Bensawsome> i mean in thye folder you wanna change the icon of
01:02:36 <daBomb69> i dont see no desktop.ini's in the already changed folders
01:02:44 <Bensawsome> they are hidden files
01:03:00 <daBomb69> i have the view hidden files option tured on in Windows
01:03:05 <Bensawsome> ...
01:03:35 <Bensawsome> it is on mine.......
01:03:47 <Bensawsome> daBomb69: what folder is it?
01:04:51 <daBomb69> none of the PA folers (portableapps, music, pictures, video, documents) have a desktop.ini, but they have different icons
01:05:12 <Bensawsome> ...........................
01:05:18 <Bensawsome> what the........
01:05:30 <Bensawsome> JohnTHaller: did you cahnge the folder icons in a different way?
01:06:09 <JohnTHaller> they have a hidden desktop.ini
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01:06:21 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now
01:06:41 <Bensawsome> so if you turn see hidden files we should see them right JohnTHaller?
01:06:44 <daBomb69> well, I'm not finding them, and i am viewing the hidden files:-(
01:06:48 <Bensawsome> :/
01:06:52 <dbdii407> First day on the job and i already had to ban a rere who would not follow the rules to NOT speak anything BUT english
01:07:13 <Bensawsome> huh dbdii407?
01:07:30 <dbdii407> Mibbit server
01:07:32 <JohnTHaller> they're there if they weren't, the folders wouldn't change
01:07:41 <Bensawsome> ya...... strange..........
01:07:44 <Bensawsome> what os daBomb69?
01:07:55 <daBomb69> Windows XP service pack 2
01:08:08 <Bensawsome> :/
01:08:38 <dbdii407> * dbdii407 sets ban on *!*@*.rev.gaoland.net
01:08:38 <dbdii407> <dbdii407> Manchou: You have been warned many times.
01:09:46 <Bensawsome> i mean on what channeol.......... not to copy what you said :/
01:09:56 <dbdii407> #mibbit on Mibbit's server
01:20:38 <powerjuce|away> anyone on hand to help with some nsis?
01:23:19 <powerjuce|away> http://portableapps.pastebin.com/m6b309920
01:23:32 <powerjuce|away> line 134, the script terminates right there
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01:32:55 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce|away: try making a define of !define PROGRAMEXE "Path to exe" and set locate32.exe to ${PROGRAMEXE}
01:33:44 <powerjuce|away> ZachThibeau: that is what i initally had, i got rid of all of that and this is the bare bones version
01:34:01 <ZachThibeau> hmmm :/
01:34:42 <ZachThibeau> I don't know what to say
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01:41:56 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
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01:43:24 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
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01:44:56 <pabot> JacobMastel is an ameture AHK coder. If you need/want a script ask him he might do it for ya ;)
01:45:00 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: Congrats
01:45:51 <JohnTHaller> on 1.2?
01:46:10 <JacobMastel> And the rt page
01:46:38 <JacobMastel> The new menu theme is great. Especially the new icons :D
01:49:05 <powerjuce> o holy shit it works!!!!
01:49:33 <JacobMastel> powerjuce: language...
01:49:57 <powerjuce> sry
01:50:09 <JacobMastel> So what works?...
01:50:30 <powerjuce> ZachThibeau: guess what, the main program does not work with special characters like numbers which is what is was trying to send it
01:50:56 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: Any possibiliy that I can set up DreamWeaver to sync with the rt page?
01:51:00 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: ouch
01:51:08 <JacobMastel> Or will Drupal not allow that?
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01:52:24 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
01:52:48 <ChrisMorgan> Hello all!
01:52:48 <JacobMastel> Hi ChrisMorgan
01:53:09 <daBomb69> JacobMastel: You don't use KompoZer Portable? :P
01:53:14 <JacobMastel> No...
01:53:43 <JacobMastel> I don't edit webpages often on the go so np++ is fine for that...
01:53:52 * ChrisMorgan doesn't use KompoZer Portable... which reminds me, there's a bug in the launcher with its Live mode which means that plugins won't work :D
01:53:56 <ChrisMorgan> A small typo
01:54:01 <dbdii407> Wow...
01:54:11 <dbdii407> General Hospital in Mibbit's Main Channel
01:54:14 <dbdii407> But with text
01:54:15 <dbdii407> Lol
01:54:20 <ChrisMorgan> huh?
01:54:38 <daBomb69> dbdii407: What?!?!?
01:54:41 <KevinPorter> Oh, hi ChrisMorgan. Must've missed ya there. :)
01:55:02 <dbdii407> <xXxX> we should make a show out of this
01:55:02 <dbdii407> <XxXx> like, general hospital, but with text.
01:55:05 <ZachThibeau> howdy KevinPorter and ChrisMorgan :) since I missed greeting you guys :P
01:55:42 <KevinPorter> Hi ZachThibeau. ;P
01:55:46 <JohnTHaller> JacobMastel: No. Drupal doesn't support it. And DreamWeaver fails at editing anything other than simplistic pages.
01:56:22 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller: Do you use KompoZer Portable?
01:56:22 <JacobMastel> np++...
01:56:26 <JacobMastel> K :P
01:56:47 <powerjuce> JohnTHaller: any html builder fails :P
01:57:23 * ChrisMorgan uses gVim Portable :D
01:57:39 * ChrisMorgan reckons gVim is actually very popular as a text editor
01:58:38 * daBomb69 has never heard of gVim or gVim Portable
01:59:02 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: obviously you're not a linux geek. A real linux geek would know about Vi and Vim, and thus gVim.
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01:59:23 <ChrisMorgan> Vim/gVim is... /the/ text editor.
01:59:24 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
01:59:45 * daBomb69 is not sure wether to be happy or sad to be called "not a linux geek."
01:59:54 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: Could you please join #portableapps-rt so I can talk to you there about something in the status page?
01:59:59 * Bensawsome noms linux
02:00:00 <ChrisMorgan> :D
02:01:08 <daBomb69> so, gVim/Vim is a text editor?
02:01:09 <JohnTHaller> ok... dinner
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02:01:35 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: you bet it is!
02:01:55 <daBomb69> so, is it just plain text?
02:02:06 <ChrisMorgan> Not at all!
02:02:10 <ChrisMorgan> http://vim.org/
02:02:22 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/15654
02:03:25 <daBomb69> it's VERY feature rich?
02:04:28 <daBomb69> and, I can code, highlight syntax, and do everything else i would expect in a text editor?
02:04:32 <ChrisMorgan> VERY!
02:04:37 <ChrisMorgan> Of /course/!
02:04:46 <daBomb69> is it really worth 19mb?
02:04:54 * ChrisMorgan likes the phrase "worth its weight in megabytes" ;-)
02:04:57 <ChrisMorgan> Of /course/!
02:05:02 <Bensawsome> ChrisMorgan: so its a text editor?
02:05:07 <ChrisMorgan> I think that the next DT should be smaller
02:05:27 <daBomb69> no offence, but it has a very ugle icon
02:05:56 <ChrisMorgan> :o
02:06:14 <Bensawsome> ChrisMorgan: so its a text editor?
02:06:17 <ChrisMorgan> It's a historical icon - there's a /lot/ of history in that icon... *sigh* :-)
02:06:29 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: you haven't been reading, have you? I said yes...
02:06:31 <Bensawsome> ChrisMorgan: they need to make it more shiny....
02:06:32 <daBomb69> lots of history in that very ugle icon?
02:06:39 <Bensawsome> ChrisMorgan: notepad++ is better thenm :P
02:06:45 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: No they don't - it's good how it is
02:06:54 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: yes!
02:07:04 <daBomb69> they should make it more shiny
02:07:08 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... how many years ago was that icon made... many!
02:07:15 <ChrisMorgan> No they shouldn't - it's good as it is.
02:07:29 <ChrisMorgan> FYI, I use it without the toolbar - I save space
02:07:33 <JacobMastel> The home linky is dead...
02:07:39 <Bensawsome> exactly if you want any respect the icon needs to be shiny ChrisMorgan :P
02:07:42 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: in my dt page?
02:07:51 <daBomb69> it's icon that looks like it was made using ASCII art in DOS!
02:07:51 <JacobMastel> vim.org?
02:08:07 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
02:08:12 <JacobMastel> nvm it just came up
02:08:17 <JacobMastel> Had to keep refreshing
02:08:19 <daBomb69> it's so old, it's home page is dead 2!
02:08:30 <Bensawsome> XD NICE
02:08:31 <Bensawsome> lol
02:08:39 <daBomb69> nvm, found it
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02:13:27 * ChrisMorgan reckons that gVim Portable 7.2 DT3 should make it pretty much ready to go official... once I can make a large enough version of the logo for the splash...
02:13:52 <daBomb69> does it have a shinier logo?
02:14:39 <ChrisMorgan> No. But its logo is good.
02:15:01 <ChrisMorgan> I just need to make a version of it ~128x128 (easy enough)
02:15:04 <daBomb69> better than the currant portable one?
02:15:41 <ChrisMorgan> ?
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02:15:52 <ChrisMorgan> *DT4 I need to put up
02:15:57 <daBomb69> is the logo better than the currant portable one?
02:16:14 <ChrisMorgan> No, I just need to make a larger version of it for a splash screen.
02:17:05 <ChrisMorgan> Reminder to self: new icon should include the 48x48 one...
02:17:35 <daBomb69> and should be shiny
02:17:47 <ChrisMorgan> Oh good, I found a vector copy of the logo in the vim72rt package :-)
02:17:52 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: NO!
02:18:02 <ChrisMorgan> It should /not/, it should be the *official* Vim logo.
02:18:27 <daBomb69> ok, email the Vim peeps and ask them 4 a shiny logo:-)
02:18:53 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think Bram'd accept it unless it was /really/ impressive...
02:19:09 <ChrisMorgan> Probably there's too much history in the old one to get it scrapped.
02:19:19 <daBomb69> :-(
02:19:23 <ChrisMorgan> And anyway, then I'd have to wait for a new release with the new logo
02:19:53 <ChrisMorgan> Never know though, maybe it'd be accepted with just shinying up and rounding the bevels...
02:20:03 <daBomb69> ya!!!
02:20:18 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know though. Can't comment
02:20:22 <daBomb69> ok
02:20:28 <ChrisMorgan> Can't remember when Vim 7.3 is meant to be being released...
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02:21:03 <daBomb69> hello TimClark
02:21:03 <ChrisMorgan> I will admit, when you look at a ~500x500 version of the Vim logo, it does look a bit ugly (while 48x48 and below looks very nice)
02:21:10 <ChrisMorgan> Hey TimClark
02:21:15 <daBomb69> yes, it does!
02:21:24 <TimClark> Hello fellow p-appsians :)
02:21:39 <ChrisMorgan> KevinPorter: did you have a problem with the SWORD Project for Windows Portable with some library not being there?
02:21:53 <KevinPorter> No, I didn't.
02:21:58 <ChrisMorgan> :-(
02:22:04 <ChrisMorgan> It would have strengthened my argument :P
02:22:09 <ChrisMorgan> I'm just busy arguing that it isn't properly portable at all...
02:22:14 <KevinPorter> I actually abandoned that project because of issues with the Install Manager.
02:22:32 <ChrisMorgan> Not just the Install Manager was it?
02:22:43 <ChrisMorgan> Also the unpredictable registering of protocols etc.
02:23:01 <ChrisMorgan> I've been arguing about the table at the bottom of http://crosswire.org/wiki/Choosing_a_SWORD_program
02:23:39 <ChrisMorgan> And http://crosswire.org/wiki/Talk:Choosing_a_SWORD_program#BibleCS_Portability
02:23:58 <ChrisMorgan> "If something runs off a USB drive it is portable in all practical sense."
02:24:10 <ChrisMorgan> That's enough to make any of us shudder... :P
02:24:59 <daBomb69> Nearly anything can run off a USB drive
02:25:31 <ChrisMorgan> ... but mostly not properly.
02:25:43 <daBomb69> Exactly
02:26:03 <daBomb69> and, many of them will leave registry crap
02:26:43 <ChrisMorgan> Pleae don't swear
02:26:46 <ChrisMorgan> *Please
02:26:57 <daBomb69> crap isnt a swear word
02:27:58 * daBomb69 will stop swearing/using mean words anyways
02:30:34 <ChrisMorgan> goodbye all.
02:30:38 <ChrisMorgan> See you all later.
02:31:00 <daBomb69> goodble ChrisMorgsn
02:31:05 <daBomb69> *ChrisMorgan
02:31:12 <ChrisMorgan> *goodbye :P
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03:17:04 * TimClark has just finished support in the -ot :P
03:17:25 * TimClark thinks he did ok too :)
03:18:01 <dbdii407> Gj. :)
03:18:25 * dbdii407 is still in the process of watching baboons on mibbit's main channel
03:19:20 <TimClark> dbdii407: please don't take offence, but you really don't need to be sharing with us that info, as john would say, it really has nothing to do with us
03:19:51 <dbdii407> Yea. You're right. I'll keep it in my head. :P
03:21:48 <TimClark> Oh, just so you know, that is not mibbits main channel, #help is there real support channel, #mibbit, as you have seen, is for crap
03:22:24 <TimClark> It's our version of -ot
03:22:37 <dbdii407> 1. I know that. 2. LOL. I noticed when i first joined the network.
03:24:06 <TimClark> dbdii407: I thought you did not like mibbit ???
03:24:49 * dbdii407 doesn't like to use the Mibbit client. Everything else is fair game. ;)
03:25:27 <TimClark> Not sure what that mean, but ok
03:25:56 <TimClark> Time for me to be gone, later all, good luck with pap 1.2
03:26:07 <dbdii407> See you later TimClark. :)
03:26:07 <daBomb69> goodbye TimClark
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03:30:56 <daBomb69> in NSIS, does anyone know whats an OutFile command, and how 2 make it?
03:34:38 <dbdii407> Pastebin and tell us what line the error is on?
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03:35:19 <pabot> JacobMastel is an ameture AHK coder. If you need/want a script ask him he might do it for ya ;)
03:38:29 <Bensawsome> why hello JacobMastel >_>
03:38:50 <JacobMastel> why hello Bensawsome
03:38:56 <JacobMastel> :-\
03:39:21 <Bensawsome> :/
03:39:22 <Bensawsome> lol
03:39:26 <Bensawsome> wazzup?
03:40:52 <JacobMastel> Not much
03:41:01 <JacobMastel> we just got texting so teaching my parents how...
03:41:17 <JacobMastel> I wish Gtalk & MSN had forwarding like AIM...
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03:45:27 <Bensawsome> lol nice JacobMastel :P
03:45:32 <Bensawsome> wait forwarding?
03:45:52 <JacobMastel> Yeah if you're offline on AIM you can set it to forward the messages to you via a text.
03:46:00 <Bensawsome> oh nice
03:46:03 <JacobMastel> You can then reply to the person from your phone using a text message.
03:46:26 <JacobMastel> Just reply and type into the text it's really cool but most people I know use MSN or Gtalk
03:46:29 <Bensawsome> JacobMastel: can you im then on your cellphone via txt like at any time even without recieving a im?
03:46:49 <JacobMastel> Yes
03:47:08 <JacobMastel> But it's a pain
03:47:17 <Bensawsome> :/
03:47:25 <JacobMastel> You put their user, then your's, then the message
03:47:38 <Bensawsome> :D
03:47:39 <Bensawsome> nice
03:48:03 <Bensawsome> also JacobMastel do you know linux shell commands at all >_>
03:48:14 <JacobMastel> Not at all :P
03:48:20 <Bensawsome> damn <_<
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03:54:52 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller ^_^
03:55:03 <daBomb69> welcome back JohnTHaller
03:55:45 <JacobMastel> Welcome home JohnTHaller
03:55:50 <JacobMastel> :P
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03:55:59 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D and is Robert. rbrt13 scripts in PHP for fun and likes to speak in the third person without using pronouns
03:56:13 <rbrt13> helo
03:56:17 <rbrt13> hello*
03:56:22 <Bensawsome> hey rbrt13 ^_^
03:56:23 <dbdii407> hi
03:56:31 <JohnTHaller> hey again
03:58:53 <daBomb69> g'night ya'll
03:58:58 <rbrt13> good night
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04:01:24 <rbrt13> does anyone here ever experiance this: you have a program such as Python Portable on your flash drive, but need a link to the program to run your scripts, but every time you plug the drive in, the drive letter changes, and the link is broken, and you wish that you had something that makes reletive links ( like ..\..\PortableApps\PythonPortable\PythonPortable.exe )
04:02:07 <rbrt13> i have had it happen to me before
04:02:27 <JohnTHaller> if its not updating its paths. python portable ain't portable
04:03:05 <rbrt13> i was just using it as an example
04:03:19 <JohnTHaller> none of our apps have that issue because they are actually portable
04:03:36 <JohnTHaller> if any do, it's a bug that should be reported
04:04:01 <rbrt13> it is an app that i saw in the development section ( or somewhere )
04:04:04 <JohnTHaller> some sites' definitions of portable allow that (we call it 'half-assed portable')
04:04:18 <JohnTHaller> right, so like i said, report it as a bug in the topic for that app.
04:04:24 <JohnTHaller> it'
04:04:36 <JohnTHaller> it's a development test, which means there are bugs and reporting them gets them fixed
04:04:58 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: on the dev table since we're planning on having Freeware & shareware app in the near future shouldn't we add license to the dev table?
04:05:01 <rbrt13> ok, but i was speaking of a link to the app so that one could run scripts they are making from a different folder
04:05:57 <JohnTHaller> JacobMastel: no
04:06:28 <JohnTHaller> rbrt13: what scripts and why can't they be run from the app
04:07:02 <JohnTHaller> the license doesn't matter to us when we're testing
04:07:34 <JacobMastel> kk
04:08:25 <rbrt13> i mean like a python script that you write and parse in python to run it ( i was not talking of an error that i found in any of the apps )
04:08:46 <rbrt13> just a way to run the script more easily
04:08:55 <rbrt13> of any file for that matter
04:13:23 <JohnTHaller> rbrt13: there's no easy way to do that. it's more for developing and manually running stuff. if you're thinking more like automatically running it, like from, the menu, it'd be best to put it in PAF
04:14:56 <rbrt13> i mean a file that behave in the same manor as a windows link file, except that you can point it on a reletive path, simply because windows link files only support absolute paths
04:15:24 <rbrt13> unless you double click on it, then it loads a window that will tell you ehere it is pointing
04:20:17 <JohnTHaller> right, you need a launcher for that
04:21:01 <rbrt13> i made an app that does just that, if anyone wants it, just let me know
04:21:15 <JohnTHaller> how does it work
04:21:23 <rbrt13> i was going to give it a new icon first, but it works now
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04:23:56 <rbrt13> you go into the config file and type that path to the file/folder you want, and then you can either load the app by itself and get the window that displays, the current path, or you can drag a file onto it and it will run the app that it is pointed to with the file's path as the first argument ( or if you specify more in the path, the last one ) and possibly move it to a folder if the config file is set to point to a folder
04:25:05 <rbrt13> never mind, it can only point to an application / file
04:25:19 <rbrt13> a folder will get an error upon running
04:31:44 <rbrt13> here is a link if anyone wants to try it: http://209.172.30.121:80/dynamiclink1.0.zip and the source code ( written in AHK ) http://209.172.30.121:80/app.ahk
04:33:47 <rbrt13> the files are hosted on my dial up computer, so the download might take a minute ( or two )
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04:40:38 <pa_5200> hey guys
04:41:01 <pa_5200> anyone here?
04:44:58 <rbrt13> not i
04:45:51 <pa_5200> lol
04:46:06 <pa_5200> I wanted to add something in my Suite
04:46:09 <pa_5200> could you help me?
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05:08:10 <rbrt13> good night all
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05:12:17 <JacobMastel> No one could help the guy...
05:12:18 <JacobMastel> :(
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05:28:18 <pabot> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
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05:50:47 <JohnTHaller1> RELEASE: PortableApps.com Platform 1.2 Release Candidate 2: http://portableapps.com/node/18315#comment-112933
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05:52:02 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
05:52:17 <JohnTHaller1> ChrisMorgan: this just went up: http://portableapps.com/node/18315#comment-112933
05:53:35 <ChrisMorgan> ok, but I won't be testing it at the moment, sorry
05:53:38 <ChrisMorgan> Two of you, eh?
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05:53:58 <ChrisM|homework> That's why :-(
05:54:04 <ChrisM|homework> English homework, too... :P
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05:58:34 <ChrisM|homework> JohnTHaller1: do you reckon that Lazarus test in the forums should be Development Tests rather than Beta Tests, or do you think it's intentional that it's Beta Tests? What are you thinking about it all?
05:59:27 <ChrisM|homework> Hey JohnTHaller1, the PDFTKBuilderPortable and XenonPortable aliases haven't been fixed yet
06:01:18 <PatrickPatience> Cornice?
06:01:26 <PatrickPatience> http://PortableApps.com/CornicePortable
06:01:37 <PatrickPatience> I'm sure there's more.
06:02:15 <ChrisM|homework> Yeah, haven't had time to go through and note them all down as you did that time
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06:02:57 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
06:03:01 <ChrisM|homework> Hey markomlm
06:03:55 <PatrickPatience> Maybe there's in intermediate level of power that will allow us to edit aliases so John doensn't need to worry about them.
06:04:05 <PatrickPatience> Though I bet they're rarely used unless linked online.
06:04:08 <JohnTHaller1> all 3 urls are fixed
06:04:11 <markomlm> Hey @all
06:04:22 <JohnTHaller1> and yeah, rarely used
06:04:24 <JohnTHaller1> hi markomlm
06:04:29 <ChrisM|homework> Thanks JohnTHaller1
06:04:41 <markomlm> hi JohnTHAller1
06:04:46 <ChrisM|homework> For myself, I use them exclusively.
06:05:34 <JohnTHaller1> they shouldn't be used anywhere online. only in the splashes
06:05:38 <ChrisM|homework> Much more memorable formula than /apps/[category]/app_name_portable
06:05:56 <ChrisM|homework> I use them giving people links to software sometimes
06:07:15 <ChrisM|homework> I also wonder how Drupal reacts to having a + in the path name, e.g. http://portableapps.com/Notepad++Portable (not linked, NotepadPPPortable is)
06:13:14 <JohnTHaller1> markomlm: I posted RC2 of the platform, but you're fine distributing RC1. No major issues.
06:17:34 <JohnTHaller1> and now i am off to bed
06:17:49 <JohnTHaller1> gnight all
06:19:31 <ChrisM|homework> gnight JohnTHaller1
06:21:02 <markomlm> JohnTHaller1:THX and sleep well
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06:42:56 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :)
06:43:20 <ChrisM|homework> ... but of course TimClark is wrong ;-)
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08:23:35 <alpha1beta> hey gents
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08:37:48 <ChrisM|homework> hey alpha1beta
08:41:03 <alpha1beta> hey, how's it going chris
08:41:29 <ChrisM|homework> fine, I think, except for the minor fact that I've got homework...
08:43:23 <alpha1beta> homework sucks, but i got it worse, it's 3:45 and i need to finish a win7 install so i have a working OS for tomorrow, i had nothing til a hour ago, and i use this for class and yearbook everyday, and it's a yearbook deadline day :/
08:43:26 <alpha1beta> top that :P
08:44:34 <alpha1beta> with luck i can get to bed by 4:30
08:45:12 <alpha1beta> what class you got homework for?
08:46:11 <ChrisM|homework> English
08:47:16 <alpha1beta> essay?
08:48:05 <ChrisM|homework> Language analysis essay...
08:48:07 <ChrisM|homework> *sigh*
08:48:28 <alpha1beta> ouch
09:00:58 <alpha1beta> hey M$ did somethign right!
09:01:23 <alpha1beta> they added the screen brightness control back onto win7
09:03:30 <alpha1beta> i send stuff about that the first day it came out...they listened to me :D
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09:04:38 <alpha1beta|sleep> goodnight Chris
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09:42:53 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi.
09:51:53 <ChrisM|homework> hey
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11:06:49 <La> hi, some one can tell me how i can install application on my pendrive?
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11:46:16 <purple> is there any nice windows app for visualize disk usage and space occupation?
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12:43:59 <onestoploser> Bah... Sourceforge is being a pain in the butt...
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13:56:49 <m-p{3}> Hi
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14:11:33 <m-p{3}> Pretty quiet this morning.
14:23:30 <Mir> yup
14:29:32 <Bensawsome> omg... my only class was canceled today......
14:29:39 <Bensawsome> lol........
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14:41:54 <ZachThibeau> howdy all
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14:57:25 <m-p{3}> hi
15:00:02 <m-p{3}> The new platform release candidate looks promising.
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16:20:39 <pabot> ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/
16:21:02 <ptmb> Hi everybody!
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18:06:23 <ZachThibeau> howdy all
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18:12:37 <leftyfb> ZachThibeau: wb to online :)
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18:21:04 <jack087> hi, i have heard that the new menu, 1.2 will hava a short life and a 1.5 will be coming out soon, is this the case
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18:24:03 <ZachThibeau> jack087: we are hoping, JohnTHaller will be able to comfim though
18:24:06 <JohnTHaller> yes. 1.5 will be coming out shortly after 1.2. but you can upgrade from 1.1 to 1.2 to 1.5 easily. and the download is less than 1mb
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18:25:04 <jack087> i do not use any menu now, i think i will wait for the newer one if it will only take a short time
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18:25:24 <ZachThibeau> it's up to you mate
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18:26:04 <JohnTHaller> jack087: it's easier if you start with 1.2 now. 1.5 will just add a few features to it but will look the same. so there's no reason to wait
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18:26:22 <Simeon> finally Im back with me real name :)
18:27:29 <jack087> will the testing of the 1.2 be done soon
18:32:06 <jack087> if i put the menu on my hard drive how do i tell it that i don't want the autorun.inf so that it will not rename my C
18:32:30 <ZachThibeau> Just install it and delete autorun.inf
18:33:42 <jack087> so there is no way to tell it not to do it in the first place
18:34:05 <ZachThibeau> not that I can think of
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18:35:08 <jack087> even on a flash drive i think there should be an option to not use autorun.inf
18:35:47 <ZachThibeau> well it's up to John really
18:37:38 <jack087> JohnTHaller is it permitted to ask that the autorun.inf be optional for hard drive and flash drive installs
18:39:54 <JohnTHaller> nah. it's part of the platform. 99.9% of people would want it on their portable device. The remaining 0.1% will know how to remove it. it's not really designed to be installed to C:\
18:40:15 <JohnTHaller> i may have it skip it for C:\ by detecting it in a later release though
18:40:28 <jack087> i have seen that some users are suprised to see their drives are renamed and need to ask how to fix it
18:40:50 <jack087> but ok
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18:59:40 <jack087> JohnTHaller i have heard a future version of firefox will allow differnt profiles to be selected, if this is true it would be cool
19:00:15 <Simeon> I heared that too.
19:01:16 <JohnTHaller> not directly. there will be an addon you install next to FFP that allows it.
19:01:39 <JohnTHaller> it's coming out once renaming hits the platform in 1.5. well, renaming with a gui (1.2 has renaming manually)
19:03:06 <MaienM> which is already pretty cool :)
19:03:25 <MaienM> will it also have categories/folders?
19:03:43 <JohnTHaller> 2.0 gets categories.
19:03:52 <JohnTHaller> the presentation routines aren't ready for 1.5
19:04:06 <MaienM> hmm, too bad :(
19:04:14 <JohnTHaller> all apps in PAF are in pre-defined categories, too
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19:05:11 <MaienM> any indiciation on how far 1.5 is done? (not gonna ask for a release date ;))
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19:18:46 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :)
19:19:04 <ptmb> Hi fellow PAppsian TimClark!
19:19:10 <ZachThibeau> well later all, I got to get ready for work
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19:19:17 <Simeon> NIce way of puttin' it Tim :)
19:19:50 <TimClark> ptmb: hello ptmb , and thank you Simeon :)
19:20:27 <TimClark> Simeon: It is a bit long though and I will probably retire it soon
19:20:52 <MaienM> hello TimClark
19:21:01 <Simeon> yes. it isnt perfect yet...
19:21:34 <TimClark> It comes from a really great song called "We are Australian", so it's pretty much a quote except for the last word
19:22:06 <TimClark> MaienM: Hi, how's your app coming ?
19:23:20 <MaienM> nothing new really.... altho it's close to getting more downloads then the first one had :D
19:23:47 <MaienM> in about half of the time :)
19:23:52 <TimClark> Any updates to the topic yet MaienM ?
19:23:59 <MaienM> nope, none
19:24:23 <TimClark> What was the URL again ?
19:24:35 <MaienM> http://portableapps.com/node/18024
19:26:28 * TimClark wishes he had dsl at home so he could play cool interactive games like that
19:26:59 <MaienM> games are pretty big aren't they?
19:29:08 <TimClark> Oh, the size is fine, it's really not that big by today's standards
19:30:07 <MaienM> I don't know really, got fast internet and kinda big hdd so I never really look at the size of files ;)
19:30:43 <jack087> MaienM The Mana World looks cool, is it stable
19:30:46 <ptmb> made same error, but I didn't had a big hdd (at least not a big partition on my hdd ::P )
19:30:57 <ptmb> for you it isn't a mistake, for me it is :P
19:31:58 <MaienM> jack087: the 0.0.28.1 is the actual version number, but I haven't had any problems with it and it has been in development for quite some time already
19:32:56 <MaienM> that being said, you'll probably find bugs and weird things, as to be expected from a pre-1.0 version
19:37:28 <TimClark> So, it looks like all is quiet in here, are any of the ops active? [please do Not ping them]
19:38:51 <jack087> please do not ping them means don't say their name right
19:39:44 <TimClark> Yes jack087 so if you wanted to refer to me without pinging me you could just say Tim
19:40:44 <jack087> John was talking before but not for a while
19:41:27 <jack087> the other 2 have not spoken while i have been here
19:41:51 <TimClark> Thank you for the information :)
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19:45:29 <TimClark> Hello andreasma :)
19:45:48 <andreasma> Hi TimClark
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20:14:09 <Simeon> Hi Andreas - Wie isses in Hannover? :)
20:15:27 <TimClark> Now, now Simeon , we should try to speak English, you know that :P
20:15:59 <Simeon> I am trying to, you know :)
20:16:15 <TimClark> Oh, and how have you been? You used to be Sooooo Active in the forums :)
20:18:01 <Simeon> lots of other stuff on my mind&calendar... but Im trying to become more active lately...(updated all my Apps for example)
20:18:26 <TimClark> Well, it's about time :P
20:19:04 <Simeon> but it seems like noone wants to try AssaultCube :( (I know its not an App with a large user base)
20:19:24 <Simeon> but Its cool that John is here more often now! :)
20:19:55 <TimClark> remind me of the most recent URL please for AssaultCube please
20:20:43 <Simeon> http://portableapps.com/node/11748
20:21:01 <Simeon> or http://portableapps.com/node/18158
20:22:29 <TimClark> Is it currently bug free, and you are just waiting for more feed back ?
20:23:58 <Simeon> I updated it to 1.02 which includes some launcher rewrites so I just want to know if I didnt break anything and if it works on anything other than Win XP.
20:24:38 <TimClark> Ahh, I only have access to XP
20:35:04 <Simeon> You're not really the "target audience" :) in the old thread, some were complaining about it not being up to date and now noone wants to take a look...
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20:40:41 <Simeon> Hi Marko
20:41:01 <markomlm> Simeon! :-)
20:41:10 <Simeon> HOws Hannover?
20:41:21 <TimClark> markomlm: :)
20:41:56 <markomlm> JohnTHalle:I've changed the upadter from hardcoded strings to using locale files :-)
20:42:14 <markomlm> Simeon: I'm not there :-(
20:42:53 <Simeon> oh- at least it got the new Platform updated :)
20:42:58 <ptmb> Hi markomlm!
20:43:14 <ptmb> (no that was not lag, it was distraction :P )
20:43:36 <markomlm> hi ptmb. TimClark
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20:44:14 <TimClark> markomlm: if you meant to ping john it did not work
20:44:40 <markomlm> JohnTHaller:I've changed the updater from hardcoded strings to using locale files :-)
20:44:46 <markomlm> :-)
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20:46:52 <JohnTHaller> hi
20:47:02 <JohnTHaller> cool. still in nsis?
20:47:08 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller ^_^
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20:48:51 <markomlm> JohnTHaller:Yep at the moment in NSIS. But so it will be easier to port it to delphi later and use more locales without recompiling the updater
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20:50:05 <JohnTHaller> ah. good call
20:50:41 <markomlm> JohnTHaller:andreasma will talk about OOoPortable.org and the suite at cebit :-) Will You still publish a press note?
20:52:08 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. I'm gonna mention it in the platform release announcement.
20:52:18 <markomlm> :-)
20:52:21 <JohnTHaller> I don't have enough info to give it its own posting.
20:53:44 <markomlm> ok
20:54:11 <JohnTHaller> unless you have some more info for me
20:55:20 <andreasma> Hi JohnTHaller
20:55:48 <andreasma> The official announcement of the cebit is here: http://www.cebit.de/eps09_pages_en?srchopts=ZGV5Zwp0ZmZ2ZQcypaMapzH9ZFM2pG1GDxH6ZmVmBQx6ZGVmAwRkZmL1Zt%3D%3D
20:57:23 <markomlm> thx andreasma :-)
20:58:57 <Bensawsome> what is cebit >_>
20:59:04 * Bensawsome looks at teh linkzorz
20:59:13 <Bensawsome> oh cool :D
20:59:15 <Simeon> Its a huge german computer and technology show.
21:01:13 <andreasma> Simeon, it's a huge computer and technology show in germany ;-)
21:01:34 <Simeon> Isnt that what I said?:P
21:03:11 <Bensawsome> XD
21:06:45 <JohnTHaller> ah thanks
21:07:53 <JohnTHaller> andreasma: are you giving the presentation?
21:08:02 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, yes
21:09:03 <Bensawsome> oooo fun XD
21:09:22 <markomlm> he does it too in peking a few weeks ago
21:09:51 <andreasma> markomlm, but now I could do it in my mother language :-)
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21:10:14 <markomlm> Lol
21:10:18 <JohnTHaller> ah excellent
21:10:38 <JohnTHaller> i think i'll do a post about it on our main page. may get you some more attendees :-)
21:11:08 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, thank you.
21:11:23 <markomlm> Can You or could You ;-) andreasma like gov. A. Schwarzenegger?
21:11:24 <JohnTHaller> and I'm posting the new 1.2 platform/suite tomorrow. it'll be the debute of the german suite as i gave to marko for you guys to distribute. that way you can tell people at cebit they can go and get it the same day in german
21:11:39 <onestoploser> markomlm: lol
21:11:53 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, I posted it on the planet of OOo-nat-lang-project.
21:12:42 <andreasma> markomlm, I think I can do it :-)
21:12:55 <markomlm> Me too :-)
21:13:28 <JohnTHaller> andreasma: posted what?
21:14:00 <andreasma> But if there some international attendees, I hope to be able to answer their questions in English.
21:14:28 <JohnTHaller> it's coming out in german and english
21:14:30 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, an info about the presentation.
21:14:36 <JohnTHaller> ah cool
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21:22:19 <pa_3902> how can i make my app manager start without asking me what to do
21:22:32 <rcmaehl> hey what's the command for finding out a user's ip address
21:22:41 <pa_3902> ?
21:22:59 <rcmaehl> for irc
21:23:01 <daBomb69> pa_3902: I do not beleave you can
21:23:25 <pa_3902> so then how does u3 do it?
21:23:37 <daBomb69> they emulate a CD drive using hardware
21:24:08 <pa_3902> cat you do that to or program?
21:24:14 <pa_3902> cant*
21:24:16 <andreasma> good night
21:24:22 <TimClark> rcmaehl: join -ot please
21:24:28 <rcmaehl> i've made a shortcut u3 program that hlauchs the portable apps menu
21:24:38 <Simeon> thüß Andreas!
21:24:45 <Simeon> Tschüß Andreas!
21:24:54 <daBomb69> pa_3902: It's on a hardware level, not a software level
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21:25:09 <pa_3902> what do you mean shortcu u3?
21:25:10 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
21:25:12 <markomlm> time to sleep ... bye
21:25:26 <Simeon> bye marko
21:25:29 <pa_3902> ohhhhhhhhhh
21:25:49 <rcmaehl> it's hard to discribe
21:25:51 <markomlm> bye
21:25:55 <markomlm> :-)
21:25:59 <pa_3902> what cani do to automatically sta the proram?
21:26:12 <rcmaehl> the portable apps menu
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21:26:26 <rcmaehl> on u3
21:26:30 <rcmaehl> ?
21:26:32 <daBomb69> pa_3902: I think you might (stressing the might) be able to, with a U3 enables flash drive, replace the U3 stuffs with PAP, but not 100% sure
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21:26:58 <pa_3902> anything else
21:26:59 <pa_3902> ?
21:27:20 <Simeon> seeya guys
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21:27:24 <rcmaehl> i make the PA menu launcher for you
21:27:26 <JohnTHaller> autorun is basically dead. disabled in vista, windows 7 and all future OSes
21:27:41 <rcmaehl> for the u3 menu
21:27:43 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller: Really? Ehy?
21:27:48 <daBomb69> *Why?
21:27:54 <rcmaehl> and you can make it auto start
21:28:01 <JohnTHaller> security reasons. same reason EVERYONE should have it disabled
21:28:10 <daBomb69> oh
21:28:25 <JohnTHaller> same reason most public, school and work PCs have it disabled.
21:28:37 <rcmaehl> pa_3902: did u hear me
21:28:39 <daBomb69> how do u disable it?
21:29:44 <rcmaehl> ...
21:29:53 <JohnTHaller> In Vista and 7 it's already disabled. In XP: http://autorun.moonvalley.com/enable.htm
21:30:18 <JohnTHaller> You can automatically start the PortableApps.com Platform on your own PC, though with a utility. We're working on one: http://portableapps.com/node/13770
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21:30:22 <pabot> Oni-Neoxes is wondering why he hangs out here. I mean... He doesn't develop or anything...
21:30:53 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Everyone :D
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21:32:23 <Oni-Neoxes> hello
21:32:35 <ptmb> Hi there Oni-Neoxes!
21:36:20 <Oni-Neoxes> anyone here use VMWare to emulate linux?
21:37:55 <leftyfb> it doesn't emulate linux. It emulates a computer which you can run linux on :)
21:38:01 <leftyfb> what's the question?
21:39:19 <Oni-Neoxes> I need to emulate linux
21:39:24 <Oni-Neoxes> perferibly Ubuntu
21:39:28 <Oni-Neoxes> on a Windows machine
21:39:37 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Oni-Neoxes: QEMU
21:39:43 <leftyfb> virtualbox
21:39:46 <Oni-Neoxes> HOLY AFK-NESS!
21:39:46 <daBomb69> or Sun Virtual Box
21:39:56 <Oni-Neoxes> Which is better?
21:40:15 <leftyfb> and again, you're not emulating linux. You're emulating a computer which you can install linux or almost any other OS on
21:40:24 <KevinPorter> I'm a fan of VirtualBox. Much simpler, and you might be able to use Compiz effects with the latest version.
21:40:27 <Oni-Neoxes> rawr
21:40:31 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Oni-Neoxes: yeah, I just stopped in for a minute....I'm still fixing my hallway floor and needed a break...I'm gone again.
21:40:38 <Oni-Neoxes> as long as you people understand the questions
21:40:40 <Oni-Neoxes> all that matters
21:41:12 <leftyfb> trying to get you to understand the terminology and how it works. Helps a lot.
21:41:18 <leftyfb> either way, try virtualbox
21:41:28 <leftyfb> you're not going to get compiz
21:41:49 <leftyfb> since virtual machines don't generally do 3D acceleration
21:42:11 <KevinPorter> Actually the latest version of VirtualBox supports OpenGL 3D acceleration.
21:42:20 <KevinPorter> Haven't tried it myself though.
21:42:27 <leftyfb> not for linux
21:42:33 <leftyfb> not for a linux guest
21:42:36 <leftyfb> only windows
21:42:37 <Oni-Neoxes> ill try it out
21:42:47 <Oni-Neoxes> do i have to download the ISO image?
21:43:44 <leftyfb> Oni-Neoxes: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=install+ubuntu+in+virtualbox
21:43:47 <leftyfb> there ya go
21:44:12 <Bensawsome> XD
21:44:32 <Oni-Neoxes> I remember that site XD
21:44:33 <Bensawsome> hmmmm MaienM made a lmgtfy module for phenny :D
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21:50:50 <MaienM> yup :P
21:51:16 <Bensawsome> :D
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21:54:50 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
21:55:04 <ptmb> Hi gluxon!
21:55:08 * daBomb69 messes with gluxon's big head
21:55:24 <gluxon> Hello :D
21:55:29 <gluxon> ...
21:55:33 <gluxon> daBomb69: ...
21:55:40 <daBomb69> :P
21:55:51 * Bensawsome messes with it too
21:56:19 <gluxon> Ben'sNotAwesome: ... I'll mess with you :P
21:56:31 <TimClark> guys, you've greeted each other, enough
21:57:28 <Oni-Neoxes> off to -ot then?
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21:57:53 <Bensawsome> lol
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21:58:45 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
22:00:17 <TimClark> :O "Judge orders defendant to decrypt PGP-protected laptop" http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html So much for encryption :O
22:00:35 <daBomb69> What if he forgot the password?
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22:00:58 <TimClark> daBomb69: think, then read it
22:00:58 <Bensawsome> lol
22:01:16 <Bensawsome> i would say... im sry i forgot the password :'(
22:01:54 <TimClark> Bensawsome: contempt of court is at the discretion of the judge
22:02:03 <Bensawsome> :/
22:02:05 <daBomb69> I'd sue the judge
22:02:09 <Bensawsome> XD
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22:02:45 <KevinPorter> There have been cases that prove that people don't have to decrypt stuff.
22:02:57 <KevinPorter> And there have also been cases that prove the opposite.
22:03:08 <TimClark> daBomb69: very rarely works with contempt of court, it is at the discretion of the judge, and judges back each other up
22:03:29 <daBomb69> fine, i'd sue the judge in Canada
22:03:33 <Bensawsome> ............
22:03:47 <Bensawsome> wow daBomb69 fail
22:03:59 <TimClark> fine, i thought it would be of interest, forget i brought it up :-(
22:04:07 <KevinPorter> :|
22:04:12 <daBomb69> well, y cant i have the judge go to Canada and then sue him?
22:04:28 <TimClark> daBomb69: you are being silly again
22:04:48 <daBomb69> no, seriously. Arn't people allowed 2 do that?
22:05:08 * TimClark is dropping this as it is going to go nowhere
22:05:09 <Bensawsome> no....
22:05:21 * daBomb69 cries in corner
22:05:26 <Bensawsome> :P
22:06:59 * JohnTHaller wonders why it is so hard for some people to understand how Windows does BMP and JPG wallpapers.
22:08:12 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: I just read that, it makes sense to me, i've know it for years , it uses BMP, whither you like it or not
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22:09:28 * daBomb69 is confused
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22:11:21 <TimClark> daBomb69: windows uses BMPs for wallpaper, if you try to use a JPG it just makes a BMP copy of it [which is larger] and uses that
22:11:42 <daBomb69> oh
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22:12:40 <SilentWalker> hi everyone:) i want to know - exactly what is the wallpaper function of the 1.2 menu? Does it switch wallpaper on launch to one of your choice?
22:12:57 <TimClark> yes
22:14:32 <SilentWalker> how?...where do I place the bmp image which I want it 2 switch 2?
22:14:43 <SilentWalker> in what directory?
22:18:22 <daBomb69> SilentWalker: X:\Documents\Pictures save it as a bmp calledportableapps_wallpaper.bmp
22:18:38 <SilentWalker> ok...thanks:D
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22:19:08 <daBomb69> :D
22:19:20 <daBomb69> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#wallpaperswapper
22:19:30 <gluxon_> HI
22:19:44 <daBomb69> hello gluxon_
22:20:06 <SilentWalker> hi gluxon
22:20:07 <KevinPorter> gluxon_: I'd appreciate no caps, thanks. Especially when someone might be asking a support question.
22:20:23 <gluxon_> srry
22:20:33 <gluxon> ...
22:20:34 <KevinPorter> :)
22:20:35 <gluxon> Hey...
22:20:37 <gluxon> Who are you!!!
22:20:41 <SilentWalker> wow....i never knew the 1.1 menu had wallpaper swap:P
22:20:54 <daBomb69> yup
22:20:56 <gluxon_> The teddy bear in your closet.
22:20:59 <Bensawsome> ...
22:21:14 <gluxon> ...
22:21:22 <gluxon> rcmaehl?
22:21:25 * SilentWalker is confused....2 gluxons?
22:21:35 <KevinPorter> Whoever is the second gluxon: STOP.
22:21:38 <gluxon> SilentWalker: Somebody's inpersonating me.....
22:21:38 <gluxon_> no
22:21:43 <gluxon> ...
22:21:44 <Bensawsome> ya its rcmaehl :/
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22:21:48 <Bensawsome> * [rcmaehl] (i=601c5c81@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3c9291980beab54f): 96-28-92-129.dhcp.insightbb.com
22:21:54 <gluxon> ..
22:21:56 <KevinPorter> Damn, I was going to kickban. :|
22:21:58 <gluxon> I took a random guess.
22:21:59 <Bensawsome> lol
22:22:07 <TimClark> rcmaehl: was that you ?
22:22:11 <rcmaehl> no
22:22:14 <Bensawsome> ya it was
22:22:18 <gluxon> I thought it was rcmaehl because he was in #computofix...
22:22:24 <gluxon> I whoised him..
22:22:31 <TimClark> rcmaehl: was ... that ... you
22:22:31 <Bensawsome> it IS rcmaehl they have the same ip
22:22:35 <gluxon> Bensawsome: I didn't get that as a result...
22:23:00 <Bensawsome> * [gluxon_] (i=601c5c81@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-389a89af94f08085): 96-28-92-129.dhcp.insightbb.com
22:23:02 <daBomb69> Bensawsome's right, same IP
22:23:09 <rcmaehl> That might have been my bother we use the same wireless router
22:23:23 <gluxon> Likely.
22:23:32 <gluxon> TimClark: We have barely no proof.
22:23:41 <TimClark> rcmaehl: sorry that answer does not cut it
22:23:56 <daBomb69> TimClark: Be nice
22:23:57 <gluxon> For all we know, it could be his brother...
22:23:59 <daBomb69> please
22:24:03 <TimClark> do not play with other flks nicks
22:24:19 <TimClark> do not allow your brother to play with your connection
22:24:24 <Bensawsome> gluxon and daBomb69: for all we know he could be lieing :/
22:24:34 <TimClark> everyone shush
22:24:37 <daBomb69> True, very true
22:24:44 <KevinPorter> TimClark is right guys.
22:24:54 <gluxon> Bensawsome: He could.. but he has no proof he isn't.
22:25:12 <TimClark> rcmaehl: you have been skating on thin ice lately, and the ops are getting annoyed with you
22:25:12 <KevinPorter> In IRC, you're guilty until proven innocent. That's just how it is.
22:25:18 <Bensawsome> but he no proof the other way either :/
22:25:21 <Bensawsome> exactly
22:25:30 <TimClark> Bensawsome: gluxon STOP
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22:26:00 <gluxon> TimClark: I will, but I'm just saying, it's unfair for rcmaehl...
22:26:07 <gluxon> k.
22:26:24 <TimClark> gluxon: I am about to mute YOU , stop now, do not reply
22:27:20 <TimClark> rcmaehl: you will be unmuted in 30 minutes, try to behave, in this matter and in general
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22:29:00 <TimClark> Folks , In general op decisions do not need to be questioned, especially when there are 2 active ops in the channel who concur
22:29:52 <daBomb69> TimClark: No offence, but what makes you guys so much more important than the rest of us?
22:30:10 <Bensawsome> WOW
22:30:14 <ptmb> daBomb69: please, no, don't start with that
22:30:15 <Bensawsome> they are the ops....
22:30:34 <gluxon> John trustes them to do the right thing.
22:30:34 <Bensawsome> you do not question the ops of channels. its the same as forums you dont question the moderators
22:30:42 <daBomb69> ok then
22:31:10 <TimClark> daBomb69: Keeping order in the channel is our job, and since you have chosen to ask, let me tell you that you too have been on thin ice and the ops are not very happy with you either
22:31:20 <daBomb69> ok then
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22:35:02 <Bensawsome> wb JohnTHaller ^_^
22:35:33 <ptmb> wb JohnTHaller!
22:35:54 <JohnTHaller> what's going on
22:36:32 <gluxon> Ello :P
22:36:43 <Bensawsome> nothin much...
22:37:35 <TimClark> Do you mean in general, "Hi, what's happenin" or the recent occurance ?
22:38:05 <TimClark> i just muted a user for impersonating an other user
22:38:28 <JohnTHaller> who is impersonating someone else?
22:38:50 <TimClark> our friend rchamal
22:39:03 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: Some people claim that rcmaehl was impersonating me... But the have no proof but the same IP
22:41:19 <KevinPorter> Which is a tad irrefutable, but I'm not going to discuss further.
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22:49:33 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 :D
22:49:39 <Bensawsome> why hello thar sir ^_^
22:49:54 <ptmb> wb Gizmokid2005!
22:50:03 <Gizmokid2005> thanks Bensawsome, ptmb
22:50:07 <Gizmokid2005> I won't be staying long
22:50:12 <Gizmokid2005> just taking a quick break from fixing to eat.
22:50:14 <Bensawsome> awwwww... :'(
22:50:34 <ptmb> I'll go away in 10 mins too btw, sleep time :P
22:50:45 <ptmb> (remember me if I don't go, k? :D)
22:51:14 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: sorry, I have to fix my hallway floor :(
22:51:23 <Bensawsome> oh gawd :/
22:51:26 <ptmb> ouch!
22:51:28 <Bensawsome> what happened :/
22:51:32 <ptmb> which type of floor btw? :D
22:52:16 <Bensawsome> i gtg finish this thing tonie...
22:52:23 <Bensawsome> so i think i quit cya guys >_>
22:52:53 <Gizmokid2005> yeah I know
22:52:56 <ptmb> (eech, I am getting too rude and lame, I need to go back to my older self online :P starting by using less smilies)
22:53:08 <Bensawsome> ^_^ :D :P
22:53:10 <Bensawsome> cya
22:53:12 <ptmb> cya Bensawsome
22:53:19 <gluxon> ptmb: Now?
22:53:27 <gluxon> It's only 10 down there :D
22:53:31 <Gizmokid2005> well, in my mobile home, they were originally stupid particle board floors
22:53:41 <ptmb> I am saying goodbie to Bensawsome, gluxon, I'll still be here for 6 more mins
22:53:43 <Gizmokid2005> since half my hallway fell through, I am putting in plywood floors
22:54:09 <ptmb> actually 10:55 gluxon
22:54:13 <ptmb> :P
22:56:07 <gluxon> ptmb: :D 10 is 10 :D
22:56:18 <ptmb> :P and 57 is 57 :D
22:56:58 <ptmb> unless when it isn't 57 :P (but that is going into the absurd :P )
22:59:19 <ptmb> 11pm here, gonna go sleep, bye
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23:04:42 <diamondhiker> ok
23:04:56 <diamondhiker> can i copy all the stuff from one jumpdrive toanother directly and that jumpdrive work
23:05:09 <TimClark> yes
23:05:10 <diamondhiker> copy all the portable apps stuff that is from one drive to thethoer
23:05:11 <diamondhiker> other
23:05:15 <diamondhiker> ok cool
23:05:16 <TimClark> yes
23:05:18 <diamondhiker> that is sweet
23:05:36 <diamondhiker> got a 16gb in the mail today and wanted to take all my stuff like it is
23:05:39 <diamondhiker> thanks so much
23:05:43 <TimClark> yes, it is one of the things that make portableapps what they are :)
23:06:07 <diamondhiker> cool
23:06:34 <TimClark> Donations are being collected at the door :P
23:06:44 <TimClark> that was a joke :P
23:06:58 <diamondhiker> hahhaha
23:06:59 <diamondhiker> ok
23:06:59 <diamondhiker> thanks
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23:14:31 <TimClark> Hello dzjepp
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23:23:19 <SergentSiler> Y hello thar daBomb69
23:23:43 <daBomb69> ohithar SergentSiler
23:23:56 <SergentSiler> lol
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23:50:07 <dbdii407> WOW! I just got spammed from heck because i banned the user
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23:50:31 <dbdii407> Got some very inapproprate notices