IRC Log from 2009-03-22
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00:01:03 <dbdii407> rmccue: pabot
00:01:12 <rmccue> Ich weiß.
00:01:42 <dbdii407> Lol
00:02:01 <ZachThibeau> howdy rmccue
00:02:09 <rmccue> Hola.
00:02:20 <daBomb69> Hi rmccue
00:02:23 <ZachThibeau> whats new down under :)
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00:02:41 <rmccue> Not much.
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00:06:49 <alpha1beta> hi ryan
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00:12:48 <dbdii407> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvepYYNjfBk&NR=1 Very cool. :)
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00:18:15 <KevinPorter> Hello all.
00:18:24 <daBomb69> Hi KevinPorter
00:18:28 <Gizmokid2005> hello KevinPorter, rmccue
00:18:31 <Gizmokid2005> sorry, was playing nexuiz
00:18:39 <rmccue> Hey Giz.
00:18:47 <KevinPorter> Hi daBomb69, Gizmokid2005. :)
00:19:02 <alpha1beta> hi everyone who came in that I failed to acknowledge
00:19:11 <Gizmokid2005> hello alpha1beta
00:19:20 <KevinPorter> Heh.
00:29:45 <alpha1beta> l8r gent
00:29:48 <alpha1beta> gents*
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00:30:13 <Gizmokid2005> rmccue: your part message can effectively pertain to me now..
00:31:21 <rmccue> Heh.
00:31:47 <Gizmokid2005> :D
00:32:12 <Gizmokid2005> no longer single...
00:32:13 <Gizmokid2005> :D
00:33:17 <TimClark> Gawd, rmccue bring back pabot so he can make it his dam .def already :P
00:33:24 <rmccue> Well, you're not attractive, so that only leaves one... :P
00:33:28 <Gizmokid2005> HEY now :P
00:34:33 <TimClark> I hear the bachelor party will be bring you own :O
00:34:57 <Gizmokid2005> there isn't anybody around here close enough TimClark :P
00:35:26 <TimClark> Hey, I'm not a kid, I can pay airfare you know :P
00:35:34 * TimClark likes free food
00:35:53 <Gizmokid2005> lol
00:35:55 <TimClark> even if he has to pay to get to it :P
00:36:04 <Gizmokid2005> you'll still need to pay for a taxi, and that'd be expensive
00:36:11 <Gizmokid2005> to get from the nearest airport to my place
00:36:29 <TimClark> so, pick me up at the airport :)
00:36:52 <Gizmokid2005> :P
00:37:13 * TimClark thinks that new 27 inch monitor will be heavy :O
00:37:25 <Gizmokid2005> lol
00:37:45 <TimClark> Yeah, it's an apple :P
00:38:02 <KevinPorter> My condolences TimClark. :P
00:38:20 <TimClark> KevinPorter: why, i'm giving it to Gizmokid2005
00:38:40 <Gizmokid2005> :D YAY!
00:38:44 <TimClark> You don't think I'd give him something I would/could use do you :P
00:38:51 <KevinPorter> Lol. Guess not. :P
00:40:04 <TimClark> It weighs 500lbs , has a glass CRT and looks like an origianl mac, and it's grey scale
00:42:42 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: do you still have your trailer ?
00:42:52 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: I do
00:42:53 <Gizmokid2005> lol
00:43:04 <TimClark> Heck, have a 3 week bachlor party and visit all of us :O
00:43:22 <Gizmokid2005> lol
00:43:27 <Gizmokid2005> I don't have a travel trailer
00:43:33 <Gizmokid2005> besides, who's gonna pay my bills? and my gas?
00:43:44 <daBomb69> U
00:43:48 <TimClark> :(
00:44:19 <TimClark> Ok, all, bachelor party collection for Gizmokid2005
00:44:30 <TimClark> Paypal and cashiers checks only
00:44:54 <Gizmokid2005> lol
00:44:57 <Gizmokid2005> thanks TimClark :D
00:45:02 <Gizmokid2005> @gmail.com for paypal
00:45:49 <TimClark> See you all in a bit
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00:57:39 <ve4jhj> Hello neo644. Can we help you?
00:57:55 <neo644> How do i make an application portable and make it appear in the menu, etc?
00:59:09 <neo644> And how do you use the appcompactor?
00:59:15 <daBomb69> to make it portable: http://portableapps.com/development
00:59:40 <daBomb69> to add app to menu: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
01:00:13 <neo644> In this case i want to make second life, nethack, and slashem portable.
01:00:31 <ve4jhj> Good guide for making an app portable: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
01:00:34 <neo644> All three of which have no standalone availabel
01:01:08 <daBomb69> What you'll have to do is make an NSIS launcher for each of them.
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01:01:33 <neo644> it says not to do that in the app compactor
01:01:47 <neo644> I have found nethack
01:02:00 <daBomb69> Don't use the AppCompactor on the NSIS launchers
01:02:11 <neo644> ...with a dead link
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01:04:18 <neo644> But in this case, all i care about is that it works and appears in the menu (I am making these for personal use)
01:06:03 <Gizmokid2005> neo644: you'll want to follow the link that ve4jhj posted.
01:06:13 <Gizmokid2005> that's the best place to get started when you are trying to make an app portable
01:06:24 <Gizmokid2005> some apps can be "portable" but not completely like our apps are.
01:06:49 <Gizmokid2005> quite a few apps can run with just all their files intact, and they'll create the other folders they need, in ApplicationData for instance, or registry entries
01:06:58 <Gizmokid2005> but they'll be left behind when you are done using the application
01:07:09 <Gizmokid2005> which is where the PortableApps.com launcher's (for every app) come into handy
01:07:21 <Gizmokid2005> they take care of the folders and registry entries that the application will need outside of it's normal files.
01:08:23 <Gizmokid2005> does that help at all neo644?
01:09:12 <neo644> It looks like it would work
01:09:24 <neo644> But i dont have that much experience really.
01:10:00 <Gizmokid2005> neo644: the only way you'll learn is try it. It really seems like a lot to take in, but once you narrow down what work ahs to be done, chances are one of the launchers for another app will have the code to do what you need
01:10:18 <Gizmokid2005> all of the different launchers for different portableapps.com applications almost always tackle different issues.
01:10:22 <neo644> I am one of the most technically inclined people in my family, but it looks very complex.
01:10:27 <neo644> Ill try it anyway.
01:10:38 <Gizmokid2005> unfortunately, there isn't any "easy" way to actually portablize an application
01:10:51 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not saying this is difficult, it can just be time consuming
01:11:40 <neo644> For one, i have it to where it will work with a .bat file, can i make that run from the menu and hide the console that pops up?
01:11:55 <neo644> (That one is second life btw)
01:12:05 <Gizmokid2005> neo644: yup, you can create a launcher to run that batch file, hidden even :)
01:12:32 <Gizmokid2005> I have that setup like that for Pidgin Portable. As the only way to get it to log is by cmd/bat file, so I have a launcher that calls the required batch file :)
01:13:20 <neo644> How do i do that?
01:13:45 <Gizmokid2005> You have to get a launcher setup to do what you want/need to in the first place
01:13:48 <Gizmokid2005> and worry about that last
01:13:53 <Gizmokid2005> the code isn't too complex
01:14:11 <Gizmokid2005> and you can always stop by if you need help, typically there is a developer around, but not always
01:14:24 <Gizmokid2005> this, is a GREAT place to look: http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
01:14:26 <neo644> The batch file is located at G:\PortableApps\SecondLifePortable\SecondLife\RunSL.bat
01:14:36 <Gizmokid2005> their Tutorials and examples will help you to understand how the code works.
01:23:29 <neo644> Is there a portable bittorrent client?
01:24:49 <daBomb69> You could add a BtTorrent addon to FFP
01:24:52 <Gizmokid2005> neo644: not offically, but you can search the forum and probably find one
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01:26:42 <daBomb69> neo644: Try FireTorrent addon with Firefox Portable https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10931 <-----------FireTorrent
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02:07:37 <daBomb69> Wat does "oi na" mean?
02:07:48 <Gizmokid2005> translate it :P
02:08:00 <daBomb69> From what?
02:08:12 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: seriously???
02:08:23 <Gizmokid2005> it's called google translate + auto detect language....
02:08:54 <daBomb69> oh
02:10:07 <rmccue> Ni hau.
02:10:32 <daBomb69> Si
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02:12:51 <daBomb69> Hi solanus
02:15:03 <rmccue> daBomb69: Come stai?
02:15:20 <daBomb69> Beine, grazi
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02:15:43 * daBomb69 thinks this is italian
02:17:05 <rmccue> Si.
02:17:44 <daBomb69> Can you actually speak italian, or using Google Translate?
02:19:41 <rmccue> I can speak some from when I learnt in grade 5.
02:20:03 <daBomb69> U learnt Italian in 5th grade :O
02:21:38 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: remember, not every country uses the same grade "scale"
02:21:42 <Gizmokid2005> as we do in the US.
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02:22:22 * daBomb69 is confused now.
02:22:30 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: short trip
02:22:41 <Gizmokid2005> my point is, the US uses a K-12 system, some countries do not.
02:23:06 <daBomb69> rmccue: What old are people in your grade 5?
02:23:13 <daBomb69> *How old
02:24:33 <rmccue> Oh, right, we have grades 1-12, 1-5 being the equivalent of your junior school, 6-10 being your junior high and 11-12 being the equivalent of your high school, roughly.
02:25:01 <KevinPorter> s/junior school/elementary school
02:25:10 <rmccue> Eh.
02:25:15 <rmccue> So, around 10-11.
02:25:27 <daBomb69> U were learning italian when u were 10!
02:25:28 <daBomb69> :O
02:25:47 <Gizmokid2005> so, daBomb69, they use the same system we do, roughly
02:26:07 * daBomb69 is no longer confused, but now amaze
02:26:08 <daBomb69> d
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02:47:04 * Gizmokid2005|AFK will be back later
02:47:05 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> see ya
02:47:11 <SrgSiler|sAFK> baithar
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03:09:42 <daBomb69|Sleep> g'night ya'll
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03:31:23 <rmccue> Baby got back.
03:33:05 <TaffinFoxcroft> but not pabot :(
03:33:07 <rmccue> LA face with the Oakland booty...
03:33:26 <rmccue> I'm no longer at home.
03:33:55 <TaffinFoxcroft> so pabot is in cryo-stasis
03:33:57 <TaffinFoxcroft> ?
03:34:22 <rmccue> Until I get back home, unless I can crack my network.
03:34:52 <TaffinFoxcroft> this is where an SSH server for windows would be handy...
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03:36:00 <rmccue> I have VNC.
03:36:03 <rmccue> It's not public.
03:36:09 <rmccue> Nor would an SSH server be.
03:37:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> why not public?
03:37:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> too easy to crack?
03:37:55 <rmccue> Too insecure.
03:39:14 <TaffinFoxcroft> eh.
03:39:36 <TaffinFoxcroft> check out a quick AHK rewrite of DMFFP: http://pastebin.com/m72639d06
03:39:55 <JacobMastel> rmccue: how do I set up an Appinfo.ini for multiple apps?
03:40:08 <rmccue> JacobMastel: MULTIPLE?!?
03:40:14 <JacobMastel> A man an app that has more than one icon...sorry
03:40:15 <TaffinFoxcroft> http://portableapps.com/node/12851
03:40:20 <JacobMastel> I mean
03:40:21 <JacobMastel> Sorry
03:40:26 <TaffinFoxcroft> read the appinfo section
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03:40:46 <JacobMastel> Thanks Taffin
03:40:51 <rmccue> JacobMastel: Oh, look at OpenOffice, I think that does that.
03:40:53 <TaffinFoxcroft> tis alright
03:41:05 <JacobMastel> rmccue: I don't want to spend two hours downloading it though :P
03:41:11 <rmccue> TaffinFoxcroft: Nice.
03:41:24 <rmccue> JacobMastel: Ask someone to pastebin it for you then :P
03:41:28 <TaffinFoxcroft> I'll add a tray option to toggle it
03:42:10 <JacobMastel> TaffinFoxcroft: toggle what?
03:42:18 <TaffinFoxcroft> toggle DMFFP
03:42:37 <TaffinFoxcroft> i'm rewriting menulauncher in ahk, but i have plans for a seperate DMFFP
03:42:51 <JacobMastel> Ah. What you guys think if I did an AHK script so we had a GUI to edit the more advanced PAM features?
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03:44:16 <TaffinFoxcroft> it wouldn't be too hard, plus it would make the menu more user friendly
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03:44:50 <TaffinFoxcroft> wb ve4jhj
03:45:18 <ve4jhj> ty
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04:06:52 <JacobMastel> How do I check an already existing checkbox in AHK?
04:07:25 <rmccue> A message of some sort...
04:09:04 <JacobMastel> nvm got it
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04:14:24 <ve4jhj> ok, i'm done for the night. see ya tomorrow all
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04:16:44 <alpha1beta> hi
04:16:54 <SrgSiler|sAFK> ello
04:19:31 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi alpha1beta
04:19:38 <alpha1beta> hey taffin
04:19:49 <alpha1beta> hey SrgSiler|sAFK
04:20:11 <TaffinFoxcroft> how goes the war on phobos?
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04:21:10 <alpha1beta> haven't gotten to play much Taffin, next week I should have my life back
04:22:21 <alpha1beta> http://i0008.photobucket.com/albums/0008/pbnewsletter/mascara/male23/alt3.jpg
04:22:29 <alpha1beta> Power supply FAIL
04:22:42 <rmccue> ?FTW
04:22:46 <TaffinFoxcroft> lulz.
04:25:40 <JacobMastel> Hey TaffinFoxcroft mind checking my script? I'm having a heck of a time with the stupid checkbox command I'm probbly doing something dumb but I can't figure it out.
04:25:56 <TaffinFoxcroft> pastebin?
04:26:01 <JacobMastel> yeah
04:26:11 <JacobMastel> http://maste.pastebin.com/m44f99a9e
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04:30:23 <Nathan9222> Jacob Mastel: I took a look at ur script and the following line If ( %desktop% = True ) shouldnt it be...... If (desktop)=True
04:30:52 <JacobMastel> No a variable is described by %
04:31:05 <Nathan9222> but in an if statement
04:31:06 <TaffinFoxcroft> http://maste.pastebin.com/m2de5a0b1
04:31:07 <Nathan9222> i believe
04:31:11 <Nathan9222> that its implide
04:31:12 <JacobMastel> Thanks TaffinFoxcroft
04:31:18 <Nathan9222> with the (desktop)
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04:31:47 <TaffinFoxcroft> Nathan9222: VarName refers to the variable, whereas %VarName% inserts the variable's contents
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04:32:07 <JacobMastel> Alright I'm off for the night
04:32:09 <JacobMastel> Type at ya late
04:32:11 <JacobMastel> *later
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04:32:16 <Nathan9222> oh
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04:40:16 <pa_3117> hey Nathan9222, next time, you might want to use a different username for a site that doesn't allow thinstall, and your sites that host thinstalled apps, and you call yourself a dev, ha! pathetic being, the internet police are gonna get ya! MWAHAHAHAHAHA
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04:40:42 <alpha1beta> Okay, that was odd.
04:40:44 <Nathan9222> wtf OK
04:41:01 <Nathan9222> must be a fan of mine :D
04:41:10 <alpha1beta> you use thinstall?
04:41:14 <TaffinFoxcroft> wait a sec, nathan thinstalls stuff?
04:41:30 <alpha1beta> nathan nathan nathan, wtf dude?
04:41:32 <Nathan9222> yeah occassionally
04:41:47 <alpha1beta> DUDE!! are you a n00b
04:41:56 <TaffinFoxcroft> thinstalls the cheap way out of everything
04:42:12 <alpha1beta> first off, I know you didn't pay for it, it's highly illegal
04:42:24 <TaffinFoxcroft> or the license
04:42:44 <alpha1beta> it's the cheaters way, for people who can't right a real launcher, I always figured you could
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04:42:49 <alpha1beta> guess I'm wrong
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04:43:04 <SrgSiler|Sleep> nite
04:43:06 <Nathan9222> haha
04:43:08 <Nathan9222> wrong
04:43:10 <Nathan9222> ur far from it
04:43:28 <Nathan9222> i just dont have time to always write launchers for everything
04:43:46 <alpha1beta> well if you use thinstall, there's something wrong.
04:44:04 <Nathan9222> y?
04:44:37 <TaffinFoxcroft> thats like using a stolen 50 caliber sniper rifle to kill rabbits at your feet
04:44:39 <TaffinFoxcroft> pointless
04:44:43 <TaffinFoxcroft> overkill
04:45:10 <alpha1beta> first off, it's illegal, someday they'll get you, 2nd off, it's the cheaters way, what about the fun of pulling an all nighter with 10 cans of coke and a pound of sugar and a bunch of half drunk friends coding stuff
04:46:32 <alpha1beta> is that alarm clock thinstalled too?
04:46:34 <Nathan9222> haha, well i dont have any friends who computer program, im the only one
04:46:37 <Nathan9222> no
04:46:47 <Nathan9222> its written in ahk without bein thinstalled
04:47:12 <alpha1beta> ok, then I will test that, but don't be using no thinstalled stuff in the forums dude
04:47:30 <TaffinFoxcroft> like that lego program - shame
04:47:33 <alpha1beta> John would ban for that, and if he wouldn't, ryan would, you know ryan has a shaky trigger finger
04:47:41 <Nathan9222> haha
04:49:38 <alpha1beta> right, you thinstalled that and gave it out, that's pretty low dude
04:49:42 <Bensawsome> ive seen ur kind =_+ i used to hang around with them they are no good >_>
04:50:24 <TaffinFoxcroft> SHUNN
04:50:32 <Nathan9222> ?
04:50:35 <alpha1beta> SHUNN THE NON CODER
04:50:47 <TaffinFoxcroft> SHUNN THE THINAPPER
04:50:55 <Bensawsome> SHUUUUUUUN
04:51:04 <Nathan9222> alright guys for real drop it
04:51:18 <TaffinFoxcroft> then get rid of thinstall
04:51:28 <Bensawsome> for real
04:51:31 <Nathan9222> welll
04:51:32 <Nathan9222> well
04:51:36 <Nathan9222> i dont even use it anymore
04:51:37 <TaffinFoxcroft> and stop posting dodgy thingarbage
04:51:53 <Nathan9222> all my apps are online
04:52:06 <Nathan9222> i dont even have my site anymore with my thinstalled apps
04:52:26 <Nathan9222> and im only sending that LDD to ppl so they can use it since there is no launcher for it
04:52:38 <Nathan9222> so if u guys dont like that I offered in that post
04:52:40 <Nathan9222> then just delete it
04:52:42 <TaffinFoxcroft> then make a proper launcher and post it
04:52:45 <Bensawsome> lol not true Nathan9222 :P
04:52:48 <Bensawsome> i found ur new one ;)
04:53:04 <TaffinFoxcroft> hmm, socius?
04:53:10 <Bensawsome> yeas
04:53:12 <Bensawsome> *yes
04:53:12 <TaffinFoxcroft> .g Socius drupalcafe
04:53:13 <GizmoBot> TaffinFoxcroft: No results found for 'Socius drupalcafe'.
04:53:26 <TaffinFoxcroft> http://socius.drupalcafe.com/
04:53:32 <Nathan9222> yeah but what apps are linked there?
04:53:39 <Nathan9222> only firefox maybe
04:53:48 <Nathan9222> i wonder if u guys are on horusofoz's case like mine
04:53:49 <Bensawsome> i saw it a few days before and it links back to ur old one
04:53:52 <alpha1beta> if this yours or your frieneds http://rdportable.blogspot.com/ ?
04:54:13 <Nathan9222> idk
04:54:25 <Nathan9222> some guy i met on another forum
04:54:36 <Nathan9222> he just came to my old site
04:54:39 <Nathan9222> and wanted me to link to his
04:54:40 <Nathan9222> so me
04:54:45 <Nathan9222> bein the nice guy that i am
04:54:51 <Nathan9222> said aight cool ill do it to help u
04:56:03 <alpha1beta> dude, don't get involved with that shit
04:56:12 <alpha1beta> the internet police will find out...
04:56:19 <Nathan9222> they probably already know
04:56:49 <TaffinFoxcroft> IPSDF probably do
05:00:20 <Nathan9222> maybe
05:05:52 <Nathan9222> yo woa wtf, I just did a search on my user name and how the hell do I have a rude space?
05:06:20 <alpha1beta> link please
05:06:23 <Nathan9222> haha
05:06:27 <Nathan9222> just search my username
05:06:34 <Nathan9222> as the site seems to contain nudity
05:06:48 <Nathan9222> i think someone is claimin to be me when they arent
05:07:05 <Havvy> Remember, nicks are not 1 nick to 1 person.
05:08:03 <Nathan9222> i know
05:08:08 <alpha1beta> "PortableAppZ: Portable DVDFab Platinum (Option: Mobile) 5.2.3.0 ...I also am interested in hosting this on my website - http://nathan9222.comphost.info - using mediafire as the host. Included will be a note crediting you ...
05:08:08 <alpha1beta> portableappz.blogspot.com/2009/01/portable-dvdfab-platinum-option-mobile_09.html?showComment=1231528080000" SHAME
05:08:14 <Nathan9222> but ive never seen my username used anywhere before
05:09:22 <Nathan9222> page doesnt exist
05:09:24 <Nathan9222> it says
05:09:33 <Nathan9222> plus I dont post on any of those sites
05:10:22 <Nathan9222> probably someone who used my site that was an admin or something since I had like 7 admins and they all refered to the site as ours, so im assuming they would refer to it as theirs if they wanted to spread the word
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05:12:58 <alpha1beta> well nathan9222 isn't a common username I'm assuming your name is nathan and 9-22 is a birthday or something 9-22-82?
05:13:11 <Nathan9222> umm something like that
05:13:17 <Nathan9222> but not really
05:13:36 <alpha1beta> it's not something common, I use alpha1 and there's at least 10 other people who do that
05:13:45 <alpha1beta> now alpha1beta as far as I know, there's only 1 other
05:13:50 <upnPAD> hrm didnt realise portableapps renamed stuff when it updated
05:14:04 <upnPAD> is that to save settings?
05:14:06 <alpha1beta> just the Dev test usually
05:14:25 <upnPAD> this is thunderbird latest
05:15:00 <alpha1beta> this would be the other alpha1beta http://avatars.imvu.com/alpha1beta
05:16:00 <Nathan9222> oh i see, im assuming ur the male version and that one is the female version of ur username?
05:16:23 <alpha1beta> yea, but that seems to be the only instance or someone else using it
05:17:36 <Nathan9222> cool, I guess I have another person usin my username
05:17:47 <Nathan9222> i always thought my username was somewhat unique
05:17:50 <Nathan9222> but I guess not
05:17:55 <alpha1beta> might want to find a new 1 if they're up to this kinda crap
05:18:20 <TaffinFoxcroft> or they could be stalking you posting garbage
05:18:30 <Havvy> I doubt it'd be somebody stalking.
05:18:56 <Nathan9222> well you never know
05:18:56 <Havvy> My nick is unique though. :D Though I am mad that Wikipedia is not letting me use it as it is to close to "Hawy"
05:19:15 <Bensawsome> lol
05:19:23 <Nathan9222> there is always someone out there that could just want to mess with me and get some enjoyment out of acting like me to ruin my usernames REP
05:19:43 <TaffinFoxcroft> probably
05:19:58 <Nathan9222> cause PA is the only site I have ever signed up on, using my current username
05:20:06 <TaffinFoxcroft> but i dont think it could suffer more after you post thinstalled stuff
05:20:13 <alpha1beta> besides your own, that is
05:20:37 <Nathan9222> oh and also youtube, lol
05:20:50 <alpha1beta> which, has a video (which has been removed) on thinstall
05:20:56 <Havvy> Actually, I think the name is also of a horse...
05:21:55 <Nathan9222> haha actually it hasnt been removed
05:22:27 <alpha1beta> there was 1 that said it was removed
05:23:13 <Nathan9222> well
05:23:16 <Nathan9222> there i just removed it
05:23:21 <alpha1beta> good idea.
05:24:06 <TaffinFoxcroft> thinstall will get you nowhere, its not respectable in any coding community
05:24:32 <alpha1beta> welp, I must be getting going, Nathan9222 I hope you decide to stay away from that stuff, it's as bad as crack, I can't tell you how disappointed I am, major lose in respect dude..
05:24:40 <alpha1beta> goodnight all
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05:26:28 <Nathan9222> oh
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05:51:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi ChrisMorgan
05:51:29 <ChrisMorgan> Nathan9222: Hmm... your sins have caught up with you?
05:51:31 <ChrisMorgan> Hey TaffinFoxcroft
05:51:44 <Nathan9222> have they?
05:51:48 <ChrisMorgan> I had a talk to Nathan9222 about it in private yesterday. That's why the latest thinstalled app is no longer there.
05:52:00 <ChrisMorgan> Nathan9222: I'm merely meaning that it's been discussed in public now.
05:52:10 <ChrisMorgan> And more people know about it.
05:52:10 <Nathan9222> cool
05:53:04 <Nathan9222> how did u guys find out about this anyways?
05:53:24 <Nathan9222> *cough* Stalkers *cough*
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05:53:40 <TaffinFoxcroft> google
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05:53:48 <TaffinFoxcroft> its not that hard
05:53:57 <ChrisMorgan> Nathan9222: I have sources. I found it not through Google.
05:54:19 <Nathan9222> haha
05:54:23 <Nathan9222> sources
05:54:23 <ChrisMorgan> Pesky Alt+Left problem with Mibbit and Google Chrome unless you open it in a new tab with no back-history...
05:54:29 <ChrisMorgan> yes.
05:54:30 <ChrisMorgan> sources.
05:54:37 <Nathan9222> what are you
05:54:39 <Nathan9222> a cop?
05:54:44 <ChrisMorgan> .def cop
05:54:51 <ChrisMorgan> yes :D
05:55:01 <ChrisMorgan> cop = Channel OPerator on IRC :D
05:55:09 <Nathan9222> haha
05:55:33 <Nathan9222> well i dont think its hard to find my site anyways, if u just search my username then u will find it
05:55:46 <Nathan9222> plus i had a youtube vid on it
05:55:55 <ChrisMorgan> Whether you pretend it is not you or not, I know that it is you.
05:56:11 <Nathan9222> well i told u its me that owns the site
05:56:15 <Nathan9222> i have no need to lie
06:02:11 <ChrisMorgan> By the way Nathan9222, I should tell you that we do know about it, Ryan, Patrick, John etc.
06:03:12 <upnPAD> hrm
06:03:17 <upnPAD> how do i get ops on freenode again
06:03:26 <upnPAD> like im channel owner just i dont have ops
06:03:46 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: channel? We'll move there and I'll help
06:03:55 <Nathan9222> oh alright
06:04:09 <TaffinFoxcroft> /sg chanserv op #upnpad upnPAD
06:04:12 <TaffinFoxcroft> * /msg
06:04:29 <upnPAD> ta taffin
06:04:44 <upnPAD> its #SUPANRDZ btw ChrisMorgan, a pokenet team channel
06:05:37 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: if you want auto-op, /msg chanserv access #SUPANRDZ add upnPAD +O
06:06:16 <upnPAD> ta
06:07:04 <upnPAD> hm
06:07:09 <upnPAD> +o or +ao ChrisMorgan?
06:07:39 <ChrisMorgan> +O
06:07:59 <ChrisMorgan> capital O is auto-op, V auto-voice, o op power and v voice power
06:08:03 <upnPAD> oh big O
06:09:44 <ChrisMorgan> Noooo... Ben has recinded his decision to translate "BPBible" into other languages for some reason! So BPBible in Hungarian won't be BPBiblia any more :-(
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06:23:18 <Nathan9222> well adios amigos, talk to you all manana
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06:31:45 <dragonmage> hello peoples
06:32:12 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi dragonmage
06:32:26 <TaffinFoxcroft> hows your progress on rainmeter portable?
06:32:41 <dragonmage> heh
06:32:44 <dragonmage> slow
06:33:11 <TaffinFoxcroft> well then, http://cubegames.net/taneth/uploads/index.php?dir=test_releases%2F
06:33:47 <dragonmage> seems, my interest has stirred up some development...
06:35:05 <dragonmage> and I really haven't had time to learn NSIS
06:35:51 <TaffinFoxcroft> its the first nsis i've done in ages
06:37:27 <dragonmage> I'm working on a PAM start button, that lets you choose the size of the button
06:37:46 <TaffinFoxcroft> cool
06:38:18 <dragonmage> from 16x16 on up
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06:40:56 <dragonmage> gonna try to work on some PA.com themed meters to
06:41:04 <TaffinFoxcroft> ah k
06:42:03 <dragonmage> so, how good are you at nsis?
06:43:04 <TaffinFoxcroft> alright, but i need some practise
06:43:33 <dragonmage> I have an idea, but won't have the time to figure it out for a while probably
06:44:54 <dragonmage> I was thinking that an NSIS launcher could be made, that would function as a "theme switcher" for Rainmeter...
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06:47:38 <dragonmage> It would just have to manage multiple rainmeter.ini files, copy them into the App\Rainmeter\ directory before launching rainmeter.exe
06:47:52 <TaffinFoxcroft> possible
06:48:06 <TaffinFoxcroft> you could even do it in ahk like DLauncher
06:48:17 <dragonmage> then copy them back to the right "theme" folder on exit
06:49:12 <dragonmage> yeah, I thought of that to, I think I'm gonna have to learn AHK anyways
06:49:32 <dragonmage> I want a ClamwinDropTarget :)
06:50:39 <dragonmage> I know wraithdu did EraserDropTarget in Auto-It
06:51:06 <TaffinFoxcroft> it would be easy to do
06:52:39 <dragonmage> I'd also like to add more functionality to wraithdu's FlashBin than he seems willing to add himself
06:53:16 <dragonmage> hey TaffinFoxcroft, where'd you get your name from?
06:53:22 <TaffinFoxcroft> dunno
06:53:26 <TaffinFoxcroft> i was born with it
06:54:03 <dragonmage> what's your nationality?
06:54:21 <TaffinFoxcroft> australian.
06:54:28 <TaffinFoxcroft> same as chris and ryan
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06:55:23 <dragonmage> I hope you don't take offense, but your name always puts me in mind of a hobbit
06:55:35 <dragonmage> or maybe a kender
06:55:35 <TaffinFoxcroft> ...
06:56:06 <ChrisMorgan> Except Taffin's a Victorian, not a (shudder) New South Welshman like Ryan :D
06:56:14 <TaffinFoxcroft> wrong
06:56:21 <TaffinFoxcroft> i live in NSW
06:56:26 <ChrisMorgan> TaffinFoxcroft: huh? Since when?
06:56:30 <TaffinFoxcroft> just on the vic/nsw border
06:56:35 <TaffinFoxcroft> since ever :D
06:56:44 <dragonmage> but, that's probably just me reading to many books from TSR in my younger years
06:56:45 <ChrisMorgan> I thought you'd said that you were on the Vic side?
06:57:02 <TaffinFoxcroft> nope. i do school on the vic side
06:57:28 <dragonmage> anyways, it's a cool name
06:59:42 <dragonmage> installing RMP now
07:00:18 <dragonmage> how many configs did you include?
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07:05:48 <TaffinFoxcroft> only a couple
07:07:28 <dragonmage> I figured out a way to get the simple button to move
07:09:55 <dragonmage> and also figured out some things about the MouseOverAction function
07:17:32 <dragonmage> I've also been dropping suggestions that would help make rm more portable friendly
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07:30:54 <Kyle-man> i was wondering if someone could help real quick?
07:31:59 <Kyle-man> Anyone even in here?
07:32:05 <ChrisMorgan> Kyle-man: what would you like help with?
07:32:45 <Kyle-man> i was just wondering if there is a way t unistall a portable app off my usb drive
07:33:07 <ChrisMorgan> Yes, you do that by navigating to the PortableApps directory in the root of the drive and then deleting the whole folder
07:33:25 <Kyle-man> really? that easy huh?
07:33:28 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. remove X:\PortableApps\BPBiblePortable to uninstall BPBible Portable
07:33:29 <ChrisMorgan> Yes.
07:33:40 <ChrisMorgan> They are entirely self-contained - that's the idea of PortableApps.com.
07:33:46 <Kyle-man> gee thx i feel like an idiot now lmao
07:33:57 <ChrisMorgan> :-) Glad to have been able to help :-)
07:34:12 <Kyle-man> thanks again thats why i love this place
07:34:21 <ChrisMorgan> Good :-)
07:34:25 <ChrisMorgan> Tell everyone about us :-)
07:34:36 <Kyle-man> i always do
07:34:57 <Kyle-man> well thanks again and u have a nice day.
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07:58:33 <dragonmage> I think I deleted the config I had made improvements on
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08:44:19 <ChrisMorgan> Hey andreasma
08:44:38 <andreasma> Howdy ChrisMorgan
08:44:46 <ChrisMorgan> How did CiBIT go?
08:44:50 <ChrisMorgan> *CeBIT
08:46:38 <andreasma> The Cebit went very well (our both).
08:46:47 <ChrisMorgan> Good!
08:47:11 <ChrisMorgan> Gave away lots of USB disks with the PortableApps.com Suite in German?
08:48:54 <andreasma> Hall 6 (our site / OpenSource) were nearly the whole time crowded ;-)
08:49:38 <ChrisMorgan> Great!
08:49:43 <andreasma> We gave away some USB disks for a donation.
08:50:06 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I thought they were free
08:50:30 <andreasma> We need this donation to finance our activities in the de-project of openoffice.org and to support OpenSource.
08:50:59 <ChrisMorgan> Makes sense.
08:52:13 <andreasma> Some enterprises gave USB disks for free. We are thinking about the best way to fill them up with OpenOffice.org (Portable) or the PortableApps-Suite
08:52:45 <ChrisMorgan> And that went well? Good :-)
08:52:56 <andreasma> We think about a way, that doesn't block our displays.
08:54:19 <andreasma> My presentation at the Cebit is now online: http://streaming.linux-magazin.de/en/archive_cos09.htm
08:55:08 <ChrisMorgan> Congratulations! Unfortunately I don't understand much/any German ;-)
08:56:09 <andreasma> Thanks. I'm very critical with myself. So I think, I could do it much better next time ;-)
08:56:22 <ChrisMorgan> Do so! :P
08:57:53 <andreasma> Now I'm afk. I had to do some urgent repairing.
08:58:59 <andreasma> My wife is crying. So I had to be a craftsman on Sunday ;-(
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09:00:20 <sar3th|away> hello everyone
09:00:31 <ChrisMorgan> Hey sar3th|away
09:00:40 <ChrisMorgan> I still think it should be MinGW Portable.
09:00:44 <ChrisMorgan> MSYS is not as important.
09:01:02 <sar3th|away> but mingw is already portable :o
09:01:05 <ChrisMorgan> MinGW is the /whole thing/, MSYS is just a frontend... cmd will do almost as well, sometimes better.
09:01:34 <sar3th|away> well...maybe we should have both packages seperated
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09:02:32 <ChrisMorgan> Could be. I think though that the best solution is: MinGW Portable. Has two launchers, default one (for single icon display) is MSYS, but other one copies Command Prompt Portable source code and just adds setting of PATH
09:03:48 <sar3th|away> i think i would be able to add that to devtest2
09:04:07 <sar3th|away> maybe add a ini-switch for disabling msys
09:04:54 <ChrisMorgan> No, John agrees with me that it should be a dual-launcher display.
09:05:28 <sar3th|away> so one for msys and one for mingw with commandprompt portable detection?
09:06:52 <ChrisMorgan> I really very strongly think it should be MinGW Portable, and thus other apps can depend on MinGWPortable\App\mingw\bin
09:07:09 <ChrisMorgan> MinGWPortable\MinGWCMDPortable.exe
09:07:16 <ChrisMorgan> MinGWPortable\MSYSPortable.exe
09:07:19 <ChrisMorgan> Something like that.
09:07:35 <sar3th|away> yeah, i guess that's okay..
09:07:47 <ChrisMorgan> You could make it detect Command Prompt Portable and use its batch cmd file - that'd be good.
09:09:01 <sar3th|away> it will be a lot of work, and i have my exams at the moment, so i won't have too much time to work on it...i guess it'll be 3-4 weeks till i can release a new dev test...
09:09:08 <ChrisMorgan> So just copy Command Prompt Portable's code
09:10:53 <ChrisMorgan> And instead of $EXEDIR\Data\Batch\commandprompt.bat, use a macro "${GetParent} $EXEDIR $0", "StrCpy $COMMANDPROMPTPORTABLEDIRECTORY $0\CommandPromptPortable" and then use $COMMANDPROMPTPORTABLEDIRECTORY instead of $EXEDIR (of course, after checking it exists)
09:11:37 <ChrisMorgan> Probably also support a MinGWPortable\Data\Batch\commandprompt.bat file which can override CMDP's one.
09:12:42 <ChrisMorgan> And of course the PATH setting code.
09:12:55 <sar3th|away> okay..so in your opinion i should include commandpromptportable with mingw?
09:13:00 <sar3th|away> or just detect it?
09:13:43 <ChrisMorgan> Include just about all the cmdp /code/ (for ease of use), but use cmdp's batch file if it's there.
09:14:14 <sar3th|away> oki
09:15:02 <ChrisMorgan> I hope that you do get this done relatively soon, as I'd like to be able to depend on it for Code::Blocks etc. Portable
09:15:59 <ChrisMorgan> "Backwards-compatability" (i.e. so that I can put it up now without waiting for the new scheme of things): where are things currently, MSYSPortable\App\MSYS\bin or MSYSPortable\App\MinGW\bin
09:16:00 <ChrisMorgan> ?
09:16:25 <sar3th|away> MSYSPortable\App\MinGW\bin
09:16:39 <ChrisMorgan> OK, thanks :-)
09:17:08 <sar3th|away> i can try to release a new version soon, but not guarantee..having final exams the next two weeks doesn't leave me too much time to work on it :(
09:17:16 <ChrisMorgan> Added :-)
09:17:53 <ChrisMorgan> Just a matter of doing it like this: http://mibbit.com/pb/csubIk
09:18:04 <ChrisMorgan> That way it'll support both :-)
09:18:17 <sar3th|away> =)
09:18:19 <sar3th|away> good
09:18:23 <ChrisMorgan> (btw, $0 is the PATH variable which it sets)
09:18:35 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks for coming in and sorting things out with me :-)
09:18:42 <sar3th|away> 'course :)
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09:21:46 * ChrisMorgan really should publish his Code::Blocks Portable
09:21:52 <ChrisMorgan> I think I've fixed everything in it.
09:23:48 <sar3th|away> :)
09:25:14 <ChrisMorgan> Just need to check it all over again...
09:25:22 <ChrisMorgan> no, can't do langs...
09:25:36 <sar3th|away> you mean translations?
09:25:42 <ChrisMorgan> yar
09:25:52 <ChrisMorgan> looks as though code::blocks is English only
09:25:56 * sar3th|away is fluent in german and english
09:26:04 <ChrisMorgan> I thought it was multilingual, but it appears not.
09:29:32 <ChrisMorgan> Oh yeah, I should also finish off my patch to the Code::Blocks proper to make it support a non-APPDATA settings path :-)
09:32:27 <ChrisMorgan> My Code::Blocks Portable even has a personality switcher :D
09:32:46 <sar3th|away> dragonmage_ would be so proud :D
09:33:00 <sar3th|away> he wanted something like that for the platform
09:33:43 <dragonmage> it's still a good idea
09:33:57 <ChrisMorgan> It's not in at the platform level, it's just a humble INI option (Personality, specify "ask" after having set up some personalities to have it ask you which one you'd like)
09:34:15 <ChrisMorgan> dragonmage: it's not at all high on the list of things to do - PA.c isn't for that sort of thing.
09:34:31 <sar3th|away> ChrisMorgan: i updated my post, let me know in case i forgot about something
09:34:52 <dragonmage> I think you guys just don't see the possible uses
09:35:12 <ChrisMorgan> dragonmage: if there is some which I haven't thought of, by all means enlighten me.
09:35:18 <sar3th|away> :D
09:35:35 <ChrisMorgan> For Code::Blocks, personalities can be useful even for portable use just because of different compiling setups or things like that.
09:35:59 <ChrisMorgan> OK, thanks sar3th|away :-)
09:36:38 <dragonmage> well, you could have different auto starting apps, depending on what you wanted to do on that particular computer
09:37:13 <dragonmage> if you have certain apps you want to autostart at work, then different ones at school, then another set at home
09:37:19 <ChrisMorgan> What you need for that is just app "groups" which you can start as a bunch. That, I believe, is on the roadmap for something like 3.0
09:37:28 <ChrisMorgan> viz, distant future
09:37:57 * ChrisMorgan likes the word "viz" :D
09:38:04 <sar3th|away> dragonmage: i think that is not the pupose of the platform and should be another application
09:38:29 <sar3th|away> the platform is for starting apps, not for automatically starting apps
09:38:35 * ChrisMorgan reckons PortableApps.com should apply for being in GSOC and GHOP :D
09:38:40 <ChrisMorgan> sar3th|away: at the moment, anyway.
09:38:51 <dragonmage> that would require that an app be able to be part of multiple groups
09:38:53 <ChrisMorgan> 2.0 may have autostarting, but I believe that it's unlikely to come in till 2.5+
09:39:02 <ChrisMorgan> dragonmage: yeah, tagging/labelling if you prefer.
09:41:52 <dragonmage> still, not quite what I was looking for, but I'll get around to learning NSIS eventually and make a launcher to do what I need ;)
09:43:01 <sar3th|away> i think writing this in NSIS is...awfully difficult
09:43:03 <ChrisMorgan> Not really all that hard. If you're just wanting to launch certain apps, just do a ${GetParent} $EXEDIR $PADIR and then have lots of Execs - e.g. Exec $PADIR\FirefoxPortable\FirefoxPortable.exe
09:43:23 <ChrisMorgan> Really trivially easy if you're not wanting a UI
09:43:44 <sar3th|away> dragonmage: you wanted a listbox where one can choose, correct?
09:43:57 <dragonmage> Nah, i'll need a UI
09:44:03 <dragonmage> yeah
09:44:05 <ChrisMorgan> still not too hard.
09:44:06 <sar3th|away> and do you want the platform to display all apps or just certain ones?
09:44:25 <sar3th|away> after autorunning
09:44:41 <dragonmage> Probably just certain apps
09:44:53 <ChrisMorgan> You could do it as a components page with a dropdown of default selections... that's not hard.
09:45:09 <sar3th|away> it's not too beautiful either ;)
09:45:45 <ChrisMorgan> Then you'd just have a Section "Firefox Portable" | SectionIn [sections you want it to run in] | Exec $PADIR\FirefoxPortable\FirefoxPortable.exe | SectionEnd
09:46:02 <ChrisMorgan> sar3th|away: does it need to be? It's more powerful than just a dropdown, as well! :D
09:46:30 <dragonmage> basically it'll be setting up multiple portableappsmenu.ini files or whatever the name is now, and moving them around before launching the platform
09:46:59 <ChrisMorgan> boring :P
09:47:04 <sar3th|away> ChrisMorgan: it is, but it's a solution for dragonmage only and needs handwork to be customized :P
09:47:23 <ChrisMorgan> Personally I'd never bother with it.
09:48:14 <ChrisMorgan> I just run my copy of Command Prompt Portable and then do things like ff, vi, svn, svg, n++, nsis, nsishelp, pafchecker, etc.
09:48:29 <dragonmage> it'll also be practice for the drive theme switcher I want to do
09:49:26 <ChrisMorgan> doskey macros are really just about the best thing about Command Prompt :-)
09:51:00 <dragonmage> I want to make an app that will allow you to set all your apps to a theme that you want, then save that info to be used later, so that with a couple clicks you can change the skins of all the skinnable apps on your drive
09:51:08 * sar3th|away loves cmd
09:51:20 <ChrisMorgan> sar3th|away: do you use doskey macros though
09:51:30 <sar3th|away> not really
09:51:54 <ChrisMorgan> They save so much time!
09:51:59 <dragonmage> well, guys I need sleep
09:52:12 <sar3th|away> dragonmage: h/o a second
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09:52:40 <drag|zZZz> ok
09:52:52 <ChrisMorgan> G'nite drag|zZZz :-)
09:53:26 <sar3th|away> drag|zZZz: you want something like this, right? http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9693/dragonmageselector.jpg
09:54:23 <drag|zZZz> yeah, something like that
09:54:43 <sar3th|away> okay, then i get it now :)
09:54:49 <sar3th|away> sleep well
09:55:01 <drag|zZZz> thanks
09:55:11 <sar3th|away> ChrisMorgan: how do they save time for example?
09:55:43 <ChrisMorgan> Instead of typing "\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\FirefoxPortable.exe", I just type "ff"
09:56:06 <sar3th|away> ah k
09:56:26 * sar3th|away saves lots of time using the for command :D
09:56:40 <ChrisMorgan> humph. Useless for most things.
09:56:54 <ChrisMorgan> Another one I almost always invoke, "vi" runs gVimPortable.
09:57:38 <sar3th|away> so basically you use it to save time when launching apps?
09:57:54 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. Typing time.
09:57:59 <ChrisMorgan> And to avoid errors :-)
09:58:16 <sar3th|away> errors can be avoided using tab as well, but i get your point
09:58:23 <sar3th|away> it's quite useful :)
09:58:47 <ChrisMorgan> The lazy typer likes doskey macros :-)
09:59:52 <ChrisMorgan> It's also useful for more complex things; e.g. "7zx=%PADIR%\7-ZipPortable\App\7-Zip\7z.exe x $*", "bpsvn=start "BPBible (running from source)" /d%PADIR%\BPBibleSVN %PADIR%\Python25\python.exe bpbible.py $*"
10:00:33 <ChrisMorgan> The latter requires the working directory to be right. "start" can do that. Otherwise it'd be CDs or PUSHDs and POPDs.
10:01:17 <sar3th|away> so basically it's a bit like aliases for bash, right?
10:01:32 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. Exactly like.
10:01:45 <ChrisMorgan> And it's included in all versions of NT.
10:01:48 <ChrisMorgan> doskey.exe.
10:02:04 <ChrisMorgan> Invoked like "@doskey /macrofile=%MacrosFile%"
10:02:10 <sar3th|away> i know, at school i use it for one reason
10:02:29 <ChrisMorgan> what reason is that?
10:02:31 <sar3th|away> cmd.exe is blocked, but i can use command.com instead
10:02:45 <sar3th|away> and command doesn't have any arrow key up functionality
10:02:55 <sar3th|away> so i invoke doskey and it takes care of that :D
10:02:56 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, same at our school.
10:03:05 <ChrisMorgan> how do you use it for that?
10:03:18 <sar3th|away> just call it
10:03:24 <sar3th|away> that's all afaik
10:03:51 <sar3th|away> appearently it doesn't work @vista :(
10:03:54 <ChrisMorgan> What, just "doskey" and then it all works?
10:04:04 <ChrisMorgan> Never heard that before... could be useful.
10:04:37
10:04:51 <sar3th|away> meaning arrowkey up and down recall commands, esc deletes the line
10:05:32 <sar3th|away> anyway, i gotta go now..was nice talking to ya
10:05:34 <sar3th|away> see ya
10:05:46 <ChrisMorgan> bye sar3th|away
10:05:47 <ChrisMorgan> thx
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10:16:58 <ChrisMorgan> Well so long all you sleepyheads :-)
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13:33:09 <Doctor-Dude> Hi
13:33:26 <Doctor-Dude> I need to ask about a software
13:37:47 <MaienM> ask away
13:44:07 <Doctor-Dude> When I read some text on wikipedia or somthing. I get borad because it is long. Is there a software so I can copy and paste och it can read to me.
13:45:00 <Doctor-Dude> and
13:45:11 <Doctor-Dude> I can copy and paste and it can read to me.
13:46:45 <MaienM> hang on Doctor-Dude, searching
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13:50:54 <MaienM> Doctor-Dude: try this: http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php
13:53:00 <Doctor-Dude> Thanks was not what I was thinking. But better then nothing
13:54:18 <MaienM> well there are programs that can do that too
13:54:26 <MaienM> but I couldn't find any portable ones
13:54:40 <Doctor-Dude> maybe in the future
13:55:18 <Doctor-Dude> And thanks for the feature to hide non portableapps icon
13:55:33 <MaienM> you could try this, its has a free version too and I've used it before: http://www.readplease.com/
13:56:08 <MaienM> its not portable though, nor can it be made portable
13:59:28 <Doctor-Dude> Thanks for you help. Need to go now. I have a major headache
14:00:04 <Doctor-Dude> your
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14:14:12 <DFN> Wow cool, a lot more people here then I expected. :)
14:15:38 <DFN> Now to see if anyone moves... I'm pretty much checking to see if anyone's had problems with the new Firebird. Even on a USB 2.0 it's taking forever to open... :(
14:15:50 <DFN> err Thunderbird
14:17:31 <onestoploser> I use it daily and haven't had an issue.
14:17:58 <onestoploser> Have you changed anything else besides for the update?
14:18:13 <DFN> I think I found it on the Forum.. I may just have to play with it.
14:18:25 <onestoploser> Cool.
14:18:38 <onestoploser> Let us know if you have any more questions, etc.
14:18:39 <onestoploser> ;)
14:18:54 <DFN> Nah I never got Yahoo mail working so I figured start from scratch.. Half the reason I got it was to have everything in one place.
14:19:16 <DFN> Thanks for helping me out though, that's awesome of ya! ^_^
14:19:36 <onestoploser> yw
14:19:56 <DFN> I'll probably idle for a little while just in case. ;)
14:20:46 <onestoploser> Cool!
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15:01:35 <Gizmokid2005> hello onestoploser, ve4jhj, et al
15:01:49 <MaienM> hello Gizmokid2005
15:02:10 <Gizmokid2005> hello MaienM
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15:05:26 <ve4jhj> hello Gizmokid2005
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15:46:30 <Gizmokid2005> onestoploser: new KVIrc release to follow shortly
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16:06:32 <solanus> It's quiet in here. Too quiet.
16:07:04 <Gizmokid2005> shhhh solanus, that happens :)
16:08:20 <solanus> (sorry, did I wake you?);)
16:09:27 <Gizmokid2005> lol
16:09:29 <solanus> um... anybody here having problems with IR 0.46.1 not burning CDs or images?
16:09:29 <Gizmokid2005> yes you did :P
16:09:36 <Gizmokid2005> now shush, and let me get back to my coding :P'
16:09:46 <Gizmokid2005> solanus: nope, I've used it a few times
16:10:53 <solanus> yeah, kinda funny, it all the sudden stopped working for me. their forums, and the notes for 0.46.2 all say that for SOME machines, this crops up.
16:11:19 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm...odd
16:11:55 <solanus> So I tries 0.45 and it worked fine, then I got the 0.46.2 from winpenpack and it worked fine, and then I re-installed 0.46.1 from here and it don't go!
16:13:02 <Gizmokid2005> weird...
16:13:18 <solanus> I was hoping to run into Travis here, to see if he wants to update to the latest rev... but he ain't in the list.
16:13:41 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
16:13:49 <Gizmokid2005> they are always popping in and out of here
16:14:01 <solanus> I don't want to be rude and bump my post, but I might have to.
16:14:24 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
16:14:57 <Mir> solanus: i have the issue now at work because i dont have the rights to access the optical drive
16:15:10 <Mir> some MicroSuck patch broke it
16:16:00 <solanus> Mir: That blows. but my prob is happening on my home machine.
16:16:10 <Mir> oh
16:16:39 <solanus> Don't worry, Windows 7 will fix everything!
16:17:11 <solanus> And I mean, like you "fix" a dog! :P
16:17:31 <Gizmokid2005> solanus: lol
16:17:33 <Gizmokid2005> XP Ftw
16:18:13 <solanus> Last hail mary pass question - hotkeys in PAP 1.5 don't work for me. Anyone else?
16:18:53 <solanus> That is, ALT+D for Documents, Alt+M for Music, etc.
16:19:39 <Gizmokid2005> solanus: I'd never used them, but it looks that way, though I have a lot of hotkeys in other apps that may conflict
16:20:36 <solanus> For me - same machine, same apps, diff PAP version. Works in 1.1, not 1.5
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16:21:11 <Gizmokid2005> Hello JohnTHaller
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16:21:22 <JohnTHaller> RELEASES: GIMP and FileZilla: http://portableapps.com/
16:21:23 <JohnTHaller> hi
16:21:27 <Gizmokid2005> awesome :)
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16:24:45 <Gizmokid2005> hello Simeon
16:24:48 <Simeon> hi all!
16:24:53 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/mc4e96a
16:26:02 <solanus> Hey, John. Thanks again for the new GIMP
16:27:58 <solanus> John, can you see earlier posts in the chat, or only since you joined? I think I got a bug for PAP 1.5
16:29:10 <JohnTHaller> You can only see since you joined in all clients except if you use mibbit and even that doesn't always work... so always assume no
16:30:01 <solanus> OK - Hotkeys (ALT+D for Documents, Alt+M for Music, etc.) don't seem to work, but work fine in 1.1. Is this old news?
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16:35:53 <JohnTHaller> yeah, i know, it'll be fixed in an upcoming release
16:36:21 <solanus> Yay! I'm not crazy!
16:36:49 <JohnTHaller> I mean... uh... what are you talking about? They work fine for me!!!
16:38:06 <solanus> Well, then, back to the corner to rock back and forth, staring at my hands while I wiggle my fingers...:s
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16:49:30 <JohnTHaller> alright... off to eat.
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16:50:55 <solanus> Well, it's been real, it's been fun, but I feel I gotta run.
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16:51:35 <Gizmokid2005> lol that was a nice part
16:51:36 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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17:16:28 <Gizmokid2005> dangit....john actually left :(
17:19:14 <Bensawsome> lol internet
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17:20:43 <Gizmokid2005> hello KevinPorter
17:21:02 <KevinPorter> Afternoon Gizmokid2005. :)
17:21:51 <Gizmokid2005> how are you this fine Sunday Afternoon?
17:22:31 <KevinPorter> Ah, pretty good, aside from my boatload of homework I have to complete.
17:22:32 * Bensawsome is running in the nintes!
17:22:36 <Bensawsome> *ninties
17:22:46 <SergentSiler> Bensawsome, srsly, that song sux
17:22:52 * Bensawsome slaps SergentSiler
17:22:54 <KevinPorter> Heh.
17:23:02 <Bensawsome> i thought you liked techno :P
17:23:02 * SergentSiler eats Bensawsome's hand
17:23:09 <Gizmokid2005> haha, taht's good KevinPorter, no good on the homework, but still, overall wellness is good. At least you aren't about to kill an NSIS launcher...
17:23:10 <SergentSiler> that is NOT techno
17:23:15 * Bensawsome eats SergentSiler's head and throws it up over a cliff
17:23:20 <SergentSiler> -_-
17:23:31 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler: lol enterprise
17:23:38 <KevinPorter> GizmoBot: Lol, I'd rather be killing an NSIS launcher, honestly.
17:23:38 <SergentSiler> -_-x
17:23:40 <KevinPorter> Bleh.
17:23:47 <Gizmokid2005> lol it's ok
17:23:47 <SergentSiler> lol
17:23:49 <Gizmokid2005> and yeah...
17:23:50 <KevinPorter> I hate tab complete. ;P
17:24:10 <Gizmokid2005> I'm fighting with making sure it doesn't blow up on copying settings over...but I think that's my fault, since i'm using rename instead of copyfiles...
17:24:25 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler: see? http://lolenterprise.ytmnd.com/
17:24:36 <SergentSiler> -_-xx
17:24:56 <Bensawsome> :P
17:27:26 <Gizmokid2005> http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090321/world/jordan_honour_killing <-- what is wrong with people these days???
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17:48:58 <SergentSiler> splitfest!! (^O^)
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17:52:06 <MaienM> its not a splitfest if people leave SergentSiler :P
17:52:28 <SergentSiler> :P
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18:19:04 <ZachThibeau> howdy y'all
18:19:11 <SergentSiler> hi ZachThibeau
18:19:18 <daBomb69> Hi ZachThibeau
18:19:43 <ZachThibeau> everything been quiet so far?
18:20:02 <SergentSiler> yeah
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18:20:55 <Gizmokid> rawr
18:20:58 <Gizmokid> I'm going to cry MaienM
18:20:59 <Gizmokid> :(
18:21:05 <MaienM> :(
18:21:08 <SergentSiler> lol
18:21:10 <ZachThibeau> why Gizmokid?
18:21:12 <Gizmokid> whatever we did, killed my launcher
18:21:18 <Gizmokid> now it doesn't copy settings at all :(
18:21:22 <MaienM> shit
18:21:23 <ZachThibeau> ouch...
18:21:26 <Gizmokid> lemme pastebin it
18:21:35 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid: mind if I take a look at the source?
18:21:47 <Gizmokid> MaienM, ZachThibeau: http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/m4d4a8f29
18:22:38 <MaienM> thats not what I pastebinned you know :P
18:22:46 <ZachThibeau> ...
18:22:47 <ZachThibeau> :P
18:22:48 <Gizmokid> I know, I had to modify it, because your logic still failed a bit :P
18:23:09 <MaienM> what part failed then? :P
18:23:57 <MaienM> if I were you Gizmokid, I would add a few messageboxes with like "You're now at "SavedSettings""
18:24:09 <MaienM> and then see where it goes wrong
18:24:12 <Gizmokid> I'm thinking I Might have to
18:24:45 <ZachThibeau> I would add quotations around this line CopyFiles /SILENT $EXEDIR\App\DefaultData\portable $EXEDIR\App\KVIrc\ to make it look like CopyFiles /SILENT "EXEDIR\App\DefaultData\portable" "$EXEDIR\App\KVIrc"
18:24:51 <MaienM> thats kinda the best way to debug it :P
18:25:15 <Gizmokid> ZachThibeau: i looked at that, but that's not what's failing :(
18:25:17 <Gizmokid> that works actually
18:25:39 <ZachThibeau> you'll notice I removed an additional character ;)
18:26:00 <Gizmokid> I know, but that will break it...$EXEDIR is a saved variable...EXEDIR is just straight string text.
18:26:12 <Gizmokid> it'll try to copy from a folder that doesn't exist
18:26:37 <Gizmokid> Ohhh...you are talking about the trailing slash...
18:26:40 <Gizmokid> i noticed your lack of $
18:26:41 <ZachThibeau> yes :P
18:26:47 <Gizmokid> but it works as it is now.
18:26:48 <ZachThibeau> that was a mistake on my behalf there
18:26:49 <ZachThibeau> :P
18:26:50 <Gizmokid> with the trailing slash
18:26:57 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid: I could be wrong, but on line 161, shouldn't it be (without quotes): "IfFileExists "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY\settings\Settings\*.*" "" CopySettings"
18:27:23 <ZachThibeau> KevinPorter: it can work either or :)
18:27:42 <Gizmokid> you mean with quotes before copysettings?
18:27:48 <KevinPorter> Yes.
18:27:55 <MaienM> that makes a big difference ZachThibeau :P
18:27:59 <Gizmokid> that's right though, IF the files exist it should go to CopySettings
18:28:08 <Gizmokid> If not, it should jsut follow through the code
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18:28:13 <Gizmokid> which I guess I can add SettingsNotFound
18:28:20 <MaienM> yeah thats fine as it is I think
18:28:22 <ZachThibeau> ohh wait KevinPorter is right about that
18:28:26 <Gizmokid> IfFileExists "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY\settings\Settings\*.*" CopySettings SettingsNotFound
18:28:30 <ZachThibeau> yes
18:28:31 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid: But if you're copying the settings, then the settings aren't actually there.
18:28:31 <Gizmokid> that's how it is acting
18:29:02 <Gizmokid> KevinPorter: I'm checking to see if they exist is data\settings\Settings, and if they Exist, I'm copying them INTO the app directory from the data directory
18:29:03 <Gizmokid> so that's right
18:29:09 <Gizmokid> go to line 169-171
18:29:20 <MaienM> no no, it checks if there are any settings, if not it copies them over from defaultdata
18:29:31 <Gizmokid> MaienM: has it right
18:29:48 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid: Ah, okay. Guess I should have read ahead a little further. :P
18:29:52 <Gizmokid> :)
18:30:01 <ZachThibeau> Now this is what #portableapps should really look like :D
18:30:23 <Gizmokid> for as fast and small these launchers are, I would prefer to have separate functions for the smaller things, just so it's easier to move around if need be.
18:30:24 <ZachThibeau> then again it's also what #portableapps-dev should be period XD
18:30:30 <Gizmokid> ZachThibeau: :P yeah well
18:30:32 <MaienM> actually, this is what -dev is for xD
18:30:35 <Gizmokid> I'm in pidgin right now
18:30:39 <Gizmokid> as long as there's no other support we are fine
18:30:41 <Gizmokid> so...
18:30:53 <Gizmokid> I need to figure this out...because with what I've done, I've completely killed the launcher :(
18:31:10 <Gizmokid> line 154 - end is where the issue lies.
18:31:14 <MaienM> anyway, Gizmokid, what was wrong with the code I made?
18:31:24 <Gizmokid> MaienM: one sec, looking
18:31:52 <Gizmokid> MaienM: I just split it up more, added another function "SavedSettings"
18:31:57 <Gizmokid> just as another check
18:32:03 <Gizmokid> instead of having it all in FindSettings
18:32:28 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid: Again, I could be wrong, but try changing line 167 to "CopyFiles /SILENT $EXEDIR\App\DefaultData\Settings\*.* $EXEDIR\Data\settings\Settings\*.*" (without quotes, again)
18:32:53 <Gizmokid> KevinPorter: hmmm, I'll try that now.
18:33:31 <Gizmokid> Nope
18:33:36 <Gizmokid> I'll give you my current test case
18:33:41 <KevinPorter> Hmm. :|
18:33:54 <Gizmokid> I currently have a Data\settings\Settings folder, all intact, but the launcher is not copying that.
18:34:10 <Gizmokid> and along those lines, it's not even copying a defaultdata settings folder over either..
18:34:34 <Gizmokid> it has to be in the FindSettings function...
18:34:43 <MaienM> again, I wonder about this: "StrCmp $SETTINGSDIRECTORY "" SettingsNotFound". To me, that looks like it checks if there is anything in the variable $SETTINGSDIRECTORY, and if not, it will copy over settings from defaultdata. And to me it seems that if there is any text in the variable $SETTINGSDIRECTORY, it will NOT copy over the defaultdata, which afais wrong........
18:35:37 <MaienM> it does not check whether the settingsdirectory exists, just whether the string is empty/non-empty
18:36:08 <Gizmokid> right, and if the string is empty, that indicates there is nothing in the settingsdirectory, and then it should copy over defaultdata
18:36:16 <MaienM> why is that?
18:36:47 <MaienM> it should copy the defaultdata over when the settingdirectory does not exist, not (only) when the string indicating where that dir is is empty
18:36:53 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid: Shouldn't you do a simple "IfFileExists `$SETTINGSDIRECTORY "" SettingsNotFound"?
18:37:07 <ZachThibeau> ok I think what MaienM is trying to say is that it doesn't check to see if the directory is empty
18:37:16 <MaienM> if the $SETTINGSDIRECTORY string is non-empty, that does not mean the folder exists
18:37:20 <Gizmokid> because we've already checked to see if there is anything in the app folder (settings that is), and we've determined there is nothing in App, so we are checking to see if we have any saved settings (ie - anything under the SettingsDirectory). and if we don't it shoudl go to settingsnotfound
18:37:20 <MaienM> exactly
18:37:40 <MaienM> no Gizmokid, you are not checking that
18:37:58 <MaienM> you are checking the variable, not the existance of the folder.
18:38:27 <Gizmokid> hang on
18:38:31 <KevinPorter> MaienM is right, AFAIK.
18:38:34 <Gizmokid> line 103 is where that variable is created.
18:38:39 <Gizmokid> OMG
18:38:41 <Gizmokid> wait!
18:38:53 <Gizmokid> I /may/ have fixed it.
18:38:54 <Gizmokid> stby
18:39:03 <Gizmokid> line 30 (lets see if any of you see it)
18:40:19 <MaienM> looks fine to me Gizmokid
18:40:21 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid: Yup, I've done one of those before.
18:40:22 <Gizmokid> wrong
18:40:34 <Gizmokid> the settings are stored in Data\settings\
18:40:36 <Gizmokid> crap
18:40:37 <Gizmokid> hang on
18:40:37 <KevinPorter> ;)
18:40:51 <MaienM> windows isn't case-sensitive right?
18:41:04 <KevinPorter> Correct.
18:41:05 <MaienM> and the Data part is added at line 130
18:41:06 <ZachThibeau> only unix based systems are
18:41:07 <Gizmokid> the settings are stored in Data\settings\Settings
18:41:07 <Gizmokid> The defaultsettingsdir should be "settings" not "Settings" as they actually are in another directory below it
18:41:07 <MaienM> *103
18:41:30 <MaienM> Gizmokid: windows is not case-sensitive
18:41:33 <Gizmokid> but I changed it, and of course it didnt' help
18:41:35 <Gizmokid> yeah yeah...
18:41:42 <Gizmokid> I know, just realized that...but rather safe than sorry
18:42:14 <MaienM> I still think like 160 should be IfFileExists instead of StrCmp
18:42:29 <Gizmokid> lemme try it
18:42:48 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid: If I'm correct, that label should read "Data\settings," or wherever the settings are.
18:42:59 <KevinPorter> Not just "settings."
18:43:14 <MaienM> KevinPorter: line 103 adds the data part
18:43:34 <Gizmokid> so MaienM, line 160: IfFileExists `$SETTINGSDIRECTORY "" SettingsNotFound
18:43:35 <Gizmokid> ?
18:43:44 <KevinPorter> MaienM: I see.
18:43:47 <Gizmokid> that doesn't really make sense...
18:43:47 <MaienM> why that sole ` there?
18:43:51 <Gizmokid> that's what you put
18:43:52 <Gizmokid> idk
18:44:07 <MaienM> IfFileExists "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY" "" SettingsNotFound
18:44:13 <MaienM> thats what I'd way
18:44:15 <MaienM> *say
18:44:24 <Gizmokid> I'll try it
18:44:45 <Gizmokid> still no change.
18:44:49 <MaienM> hmm...
18:44:51 <Gizmokid> it's not copying over the settings
18:45:02 <Gizmokid> it's like its skipping from 152 all the way to launcnow
18:45:04 <Gizmokid> *launch
18:45:12 * MaienM facepalms
18:45:20 <MaienM> line 171
18:45:24 <MaienM> look at that
18:45:33 <Gizmokid> quotes?
18:45:37 <MaienM> the second parameter shoudl be the target directory
18:45:43 <Gizmokid> right
18:45:45 <Gizmokid> and that's right
18:45:47 <Gizmokid> copying from data to app
18:45:52 <MaienM> CopyFiles /SILENT "$EXEDIR\Data\settings\Settings\*.*" "$EXEDIR\App\KVIrc\Settings\*.*"
18:45:56 <MaienM> CopyFiles /SILENT "$EXEDIR\Data\settings\Settings\*.*" "$EXEDIR\App\KVIrc\Settings\"
18:45:57 <MaienM> see
18:46:05 <Gizmokid> omg...
18:46:06 <Gizmokid> wait.
18:46:08 <MaienM> the second parameter is a directory ;)
18:46:09 <Gizmokid> no...way
18:46:13 <MaienM> say
18:46:15 <MaienM> *way
18:46:56 <Gizmokid> nope
18:46:57 <Gizmokid> same issue
18:47:22 <Gizmokid> it's like line 156 sees that folder as existing with files in it, and launching
18:47:28 <Gizmokid> so...it must be something in that line?
18:47:55 <MaienM> well then is there a settings directory in the app dir? :P
18:48:17 <Gizmokid> Nope
18:48:20 <Gizmokid> I doublechecked
18:48:22 <Gizmokid> but wait...
18:48:25 <Gizmokid> h/
18:48:26 <Gizmokid> *h/o
18:50:00 <Gizmokid> Nope...not right...
18:50:01 <Gizmokid> rawr
18:50:26 <Gizmokid> the KVIrc team added a settings config file, that doesn't exist in previous versions, so that had to be added...but it's still not copying over right...
18:50:32 <Gizmokid> well....wait..
18:51:14 <Gizmokid> GRRRRRRrrrrrr....
18:51:17 * Gizmokid headdesks...
18:52:14 * MaienM launches his VM
18:52:20 <Gizmokid> stop
18:52:21 <Gizmokid> brb
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18:52:56 <Gizmokid2005> I figured it out.
18:52:56 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: On Mar 22, 2009 @ 18:18 GMT <Wyvr> tell Gizmokid2005 Lol i just found out, thanks for wishing me a happy b-day... we haven't talked in a while xD
18:52:57 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: On Mar 22, 2009 @ 18:18 GMT <Wyvr> tell Gizmokid2005 Sup?
18:53:00 <Gizmokid2005> it's KVIrc's Fault :(
18:53:29 <MaienM> lol :P
18:53:36 <Gizmokid2005> fail GizmoBot, wrong channel :P
18:53:54 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: it's because the old settings and new settigns are, apparently, incompatibly between r3128 and r3155
18:54:15 <MaienM> that sucks :(
18:54:19 <Gizmokid2005> Yup
18:54:29 <Gizmokid2005> I'll have to talk to the dev and see if it's something I'm missing or if they are going to have to be recreated.
18:54:49 <Gizmokid2005> I mean, it's still early beta stages so they can change it...I suppose that's just one of the joys of being bleeding edge
18:54:57 <MaienM> :P
18:56:05 <MaienM> btw, anyone know of a easy to use video editor that can cut a clip from a video while preserving the subtitles? -_-
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18:59:31 <daBomb69> Hi Oni-Neoxes, Hi Nathan9222
18:59:37 <Oni-Neoxes> hello
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19:01:24 <Nathan9222> sup
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19:01:58 <johndoe1> help!
19:02:18 <daBomb69> What do you need help with johndoe1?
19:02:37 <johndoe1> just tried gimp 2.6 portable + gimp help
19:02:56 <johndoe1> how come the help never pop up but keep saying use online
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19:05:04 <daBomb69> Ao, when you hit Help on the menu, it tells you to use the online help?
19:05:12 <johndoe1> yeah
19:05:25 <johndoe1> i thought it would use the local install copy
19:06:04 <daBomb69> No, it would never use the local install if it was a portable app
19:07:01 <johndoe1> oh ok....then i delete the help....
19:07:11 <johndoe1> thanx...good port gimp...very handy
19:07:51 <daBomb69> Need help with anything else, or is that it?
19:08:49 <johndoe1> none...just tried to install help that's all....because seldom online...need an offline help copy....
19:08:55 <johndoe1> but thanx anyway...
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19:25:37 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
19:25:58 <daBomb69> Hi SteveLamerton
19:26:57 <SteveLamerton> Hi daBomb69
19:27:17 <daBomb69> How are you today?
19:27:33 <SteveLamerton> Not too bad thanks, programming away, you?
19:27:47 <daBomb69> Good
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19:29:38 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: had to rework my KVIrc launcher today
19:30:02 <SteveLamerton> Hello Gizmokid2005, sorry to hear that, whats up?
19:30:50 <Gizmokid2005> had some issues still with settings copying correctly...then had an issue that seemed the settings weren't copying, come to find out it's because of the devs of KVIrc changing the release, to r3155 from 3128 and i guess there are some undetected compatibility issues
19:31:53 <SteveLamerton> Ahhhh ok, how annoying :(
19:32:07 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, tell mea bout it
19:32:09 <Gizmokid2005> *me about
19:32:37 <Gizmokid2005> but I am going to backport the launcher to 3.4.2.1 as it should take care of any remaining issues that release should have, and that's the one I'm hoping to get released, as it's the last actual stable build from KVIRc
19:32:42 <Gizmokid2005> so that's the one I want testex
19:32:44 <Gizmokid2005> *tested
19:32:46 <SteveLamerton> You google status sounds like good news though, so congrats :)
19:32:58 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: it is :) thanks
19:33:21 <SteveLamerton> I wish you both the very best!
19:33:38 <Gizmokid2005> thanks SteveLamerton :)
19:33:54 <SteveLamerton> :)
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20:37:05 <daBomb69> Does anyone know how to remove the shortcut to IE from the desktop on WinXP?
20:37:24 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: SHIFT+DEL
20:37:59 <daBomb69> Thanks! :D
20:38:44 <Gizmokid2005> yw
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21:53:06 <daBomb69> Quiet... sooooo quiet
21:53:47 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: it's good that way, now shush
21:58:06 <Gizmokid2005> RELEASE: KVIrc Portable DT6: http://portableapps.com/node/18545
22:00:27 <ZachThibeau> yay
22:00:33 <Gizmokid2005> :D
22:00:37 * daBomb69 cheers
22:00:47 <ZachThibeau> w00t
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22:15:37 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid2005: I take it you finally figured out your problem? :)
22:15:49 <KevinPorter> With KVIrc that is.
22:15:50 <ZachThibeau> howdy Jeremified :D
22:15:52 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter: I hope so :)
22:16:00 <ZachThibeau> long time no see Jeremified :D
22:16:11 <Gizmokid2005> hello Jeremified
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22:32:53 <Jeremified> Hey everyone.
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22:33:08 <SergentSiler> hey Gizmokid2005
22:33:28 <Gizmokid2005> hello again SergentSiler
22:33:38 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter|food: yes, it looks like I have pinpointed and fixed my issues, with thanks to MaienM :)
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22:33:58 <MaienM> :)
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23:04:22 <Gizmokid2005> RELEASE: KVIrc Portable 4.0r3155 DT2: http://portableapps.com/node/18626
23:06:53 * Gizmokid2005 breathes a sigh of release, both releases are done for today
23:07:13 <Gizmokid2005> but now, I must upgrade my production instance
23:07:42 <Oni-Neoxes> what you release?
23:07:50 <Oni-Neoxes> KVIrc
23:08:11 <Gizmokid2005> both 3.4.2.1 and 4.0r3155
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23:09:38 <TimClark> Hi KevinPorter , good lunch :)
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23:10:22 <KevinPorter> Hi TimClark. :)
23:10:32 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello TimClark
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23:10:40 <MaienM> hello TimClark
23:10:41 <TimClark> Oni-Neoxes: :)
23:10:54 <TimClark> hey MaienM , hows the app coming
23:11:06 <MaienM> not much new :(
23:11:10 <Gizmokid2005> I am back
23:11:12 <Gizmokid2005> :)
23:11:15 <Oni-Neoxes> wb
23:12:26 <MaienM> but I think we managed to fix Gizmokid2005's app ;)
23:13:29 <Oni-Neoxes> if anyone needs me, ping me. I'm configuring Opera@USB
23:22:53 <Bensawsome> >_>
23:22:54 <Bensawsome> <_<
23:23:07 <Bensawsome> Oni-Neoxes: gets rid of opera :P
23:23:14 <Bensawsome> lol
23:23:20 * daBomb69 high 5s Oni-Neoxes
23:23:32 <Oni-Neoxes> I like the widgets :3
23:23:46 <Bensawsome> :P
23:23:59 <Bensawsome> have you ever heard of extenstions for ff :P
23:24:06 <Oni-Neoxes> I have a cat running around my screen now XD
23:24:11 <Bensawsome> ...
23:24:15 <daBomb69> lolz
23:24:24 <Bensawsome> i have no answer to that except
23:24:27 <daBomb69> wat wigit iz dat?
23:24:35 <Oni-Neoxes> let me get it
23:25:09 <Oni-Neoxes> http://widgets.opera.com/search/?order=name&q=neko
23:25:18 <daBomb69> awesome!
23:25:52 <TimClark> Bensawsome: i need you, going to pm
23:31:26 <Oni-Neoxes> im loving opera :P
23:31:49 <daBomb69> Oni-Neoxes, what version of Opera is Opera@USB?
23:32:03 <Oni-Neoxes> 9.64
23:32:05 <Oni-Neoxes> why?
23:32:33 <daBomb69> Just wondered (The 10.0 Alpha for regular Opera is better, but not portable yet)
23:32:48 <Oni-Neoxes> :P
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23:34:00 <Gizmokid2005> onestoploser: upgrade!!!
23:34:02 <Gizmokid2005> plzkthx
23:34:14 <Gizmokid2005> you still using 4 or 3?
23:34:16 <Oni-Neoxes> upgrade?
23:34:23 <Gizmokid2005> onestoploser: si, to a new release
23:34:39 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 huh?
23:34:44 <Bensawsome> he didnt even say anything yet.....
23:34:48 <onestoploser> lol
23:34:51 <Gizmokid2005> :D
23:34:54 <onestoploser> But he knows I'm here.
23:34:56 <onestoploser> ;)
23:35:00 <Bensawsome> lol
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23:35:04 <Bensawsome> anywho
23:35:04 <Gizmokid2005> onestoploser: yeah, since you ignored me all morning
23:35:17 <onestoploser> Wasn't ignoring, just busy.
23:35:19 <Wes|IT> O.O
23:35:19 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005: by the way you wanna post a new pic for wf or shall i ?
23:35:22 <Gizmokid2005> I know, just giving you a hard time
23:35:23 <Wes|IT> o.O
23:35:28 <Wes|IT> :|
23:35:28 <Bensawsome> hey Wes|IT :D
23:35:32 <onestoploser> I just hooked up a new router.
23:35:33 <Gizmokid2005> go ahead Bensawsome, we don't have to do only one per day
23:35:37 <Wes|IT> Hey ben :)
23:35:37 <Bensawsome> Wes|IT: www.windowsfails.com :D
23:35:38 <Gizmokid2005> just make sure to add it to the forum too Bensawsome
23:35:42 <Wes|IT> Hey Gizmo ;)
23:35:42 <Gizmokid2005> onestoploser: awesome
23:35:49 <Gizmokid2005> hey is for horses Wes|IT
23:35:50 <Gizmokid2005> brb
23:35:54 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005: i know but i havent gotten around to adding more
23:36:01 * Wes|IT pokes GizmoBot
23:36:04 <Wes|IT> errr
23:36:09 * Bensawsome eats Wes|IT's finger
23:36:11 <Wes|IT> Gizmokid2005*
23:36:13 <onestoploser> lol
23:36:19 <onestoploser> congrats Bensawsome
23:36:26 <onestoploser> Windows Fails
23:36:28 <onestoploser> XD
23:36:28 <Wes|IT> didn't know there was two gizmo's
23:36:35 <Bensawsome> onestoploser: exactly :D
23:37:10 <Wes|IT> lol
23:37:21 <Wes|IT> though windows 7 beats linux any old day
23:37:29 <Wes|IT> :-p
23:37:42 <MaienM> lies
23:37:52 <Wes|IT> have u even tried it :/
23:38:14 <Gizmokid2005> back
23:38:20 <MaienM> if you hear of the bugs it has atm, thats enough reason to say it is not better then linux ;)
23:38:20 <Wes|IT> brb getting little kitty box in
23:38:41 <Wes|IT> :-p
23:38:43 * onestoploser likes Linux
23:38:57 <Wes|IT> in my opionon it runs faster than any other linux os's ive tried
23:38:59 <Gizmokid2005> OH...nvm onestoploser you is on linux :(
23:39:07 * onestoploser just reinstalled Linux two days ago
23:39:21 <onestoploser> Yeah, but tomorrow morning I'll be at work.
23:39:24 <Gizmokid2005> k
23:39:30 <onestoploser> I'll check it out then for sure.
23:39:36 <Gizmokid2005> can you try to download them for me at least? Godaddy seems to think they don't have an issue...
23:39:41 <Gizmokid2005> and I seem to be able to Dl fine now..
23:39:44 <onestoploser> Did you get your site issues figured out?
23:39:47 <onestoploser> k
23:39:50 <onestoploser> 1 sec
23:39:51 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.gizmokid2005.com/files/portableapps/index.php?file=KVIrc_Portable_4.0.0.0_r3155_Dev-Test_2.paf.exe
23:39:56 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.gizmokid2005.com/files/portableapps/index.php?file=KVIrc_Portable_3.4.2.1_Dev-Test_6.paf.exe
23:40:49 <MaienM> dling both, but at a VERY low speed :(
23:41:05 <Gizmokid2005> rawr...I got 4.0 quick...and 3 stalled...
23:41:08 <Gizmokid2005> GODADDY I hate you
23:41:16 <MaienM> less then 100 kbps TOGETHER atm
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23:41:39 <MaienM> nvm, over 300 each now :P
23:42:02 <onestoploser> Just dled DT6 in like less than a minute
23:42:07 <MaienM> and 4.0 went down to 50 again (3 finished already)
23:42:18 <onestoploser> WAY faster than my router firmware dling...
23:42:20 <onestoploser> >:(
23:42:30 <MaienM> average speed for both 107 kbps
23:42:33 <onestoploser> Taking forever to get 1.8 MB
23:42:43 <TimClark> MaienM: i'm confused http://portableapps.com/node/18024 The Mana World 0.0.28.1 Development Test 3
23:42:48 <Gizmokid2005> onestoploser: then it probably stalled, try to get to my site: http://gizmokid2005.com
23:43:08 <onestoploser> I got your dl
23:43:15 <MaienM> what are you confused about TimClark?
23:43:22 <onestoploser> I'm talking about dling from Netgear. ;)
23:43:40 <onestoploser> lol @ Deluge
23:43:45 <Gizmokid2005> Ohh...sorry onestoploser...this is starting to get very irritating though
23:44:03 <onestoploser> It worked great Gizmokid2005
23:44:09 <TimClark> MaienM: never mind , i meant the comment about the server, but i get it now :)
23:44:15 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm
23:44:15 <onestoploser> People actually use Deluge?
23:44:17 <Gizmokid2005> still died on me...
23:44:21 <MaienM> alright :)
23:44:32 <onestoploser> That's like the worst BT client I've ever used...
23:44:34 * Gizmokid2005 will be back later. Going to get dinner
23:44:46 <onestoploser> Have fun Gizmokid2005
23:44:49 <onestoploser> :)
23:44:56 <Gizmokid2005> thanks onestoploser :)
23:44:59 <Gizmokid2005> thanks for DL'ing too
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23:45:23 <onestoploser> np
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23:47:33 <Wes|IT> Hey TimClark
23:47:54 <TimClark> Hello Wes :)
23:50:05 <Wes|IT> Ive got a question
23:50:19 <ZachThibeau> howdy Wes|IT
23:50:31 <Wes|IT> im thinking about making a jailbreak app for ipod touch portable
23:50:56 <Wes|IT> im getting he guys permition, but does it mater if there is no tos?
23:50:59 <Wes|IT> the*
23:52:56 <Wes|IT> any day now
23:53:42 <TimClark> Are jailbreak apps "legal" in apples mind ?
23:53:45 <Wes|IT> hey ZachThibeau
23:54:08 <Wes|IT> probolly not
23:54:27 <TimClark> so what is your question
23:54:30 <Wes|IT> jailbreaking are for people who cant wait for apple to allow 3rd party apps
23:54:45 <Wes|IT> http://quickfreedom.com
23:54:52 <TimClark> i understand, but what is your questiion ?
23:55:00 <Wes|IT> i want to know if its ok to make that app portable of ot had not liscense
23:55:08 <Wes|IT> wait
23:55:13 <Wes|IT> brain malfunction
23:55:27 <Wes|IT> if it has no lisence*
23:55:28 <ZachThibeau> lol?...
23:55:36 <TimClark> I would "think" we would not want it in the fourms if Apple would have a problem with it
23:56:14 <TimClark> the app itself might have no licence, but it is hacking something that the app applies to
23:56:29 <Wes|IT> hmmmm
23:56:59 <MaienM> since jailbreaking is borderline (il)legal I think it is best to keep it away from pa.c....
23:57:04 <Wes|IT> i think apple really has no problems with it, it just wont have any pitty for the people who get virus's
23:57:06 <onestoploser> brb
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23:57:15 <Wes|IT> k MaienM
23:57:49 <MaienM> according to apple its illegal, source: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02/apple-says-jailbreaking-illegal
23:58:12 <Wes|IT> reading
23:58:42 <Wes|IT> apple officially sucks
23:59:13 <TimClark> Wes, just my opinion as a Moderator, if someone challenged it I would have to kill the link unless you could assure that it was ok
23:59:43 <TimClark> And at that point I would have to defer to JTH or a Mod that was also a DEV