IRC Log from 2009-03-24

00:00:00 <OliverK> good
00:00:45 <eas> I did it
00:00:53 <OliverK> good
00:00:57 <eas> What nust I do now?
00:01:05 <eas> *must
00:01:14 <OliverK> that is it
00:01:20 <Bensawsome> looik in the menu
00:01:24 <Bensawsome> is it there?
00:01:37 <eas> No it isn´t
00:02:09 <Rhapso> did you make it so that there is only 1 " . " in the file name?
00:02:15 <OliverK> is there anything out of the ordinary?
00:02:38 <OliverK> ok im sorry but you must being doing something wrong because that should work
00:02:43 <eas> wait
00:03:52 <Rhapso> it did not work for me OliverK, i ended up doing somthign differnt that worked.
00:04:16 <OliverK> Rhapso: that is what is needed to work
00:04:17 <eas> EVEREST Ultimate Edition v4_00_976 Portable.exe
00:04:23 <eas> that is the name
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00:04:34 <OliverK> doesn't matter what the frickin name it is
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00:06:00 <eas> Why doesn´t works "Options - Add an aplication"?
00:06:26 <Bensawsome> because that only installs .paf.exe aps
00:06:28 <Bensawsome> *apps
00:06:28 <OliverK> because that is for an installer of the format .paf.exe
00:06:40 <eas> ok
00:06:43 <OliverK> eas: I just made a new folder called everest, copied notepad and renamed it EVEREST Ultimate Edition v4_00_976 Portable.exe
00:06:52 <OliverK> when I started my menu it showed uo
00:06:54 <OliverK> up*
00:07:11 <eas> shit
00:07:15 <eas> sorry
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00:08:49 <eas> The portable apps exe file must be on the root folder of the pen drive?
00:09:43 <Bensawsome> just the StartPortableApps.exe should
00:11:59 <eas> I have it in O:\PortableApps\startportableapps.exe
00:12:13 <eas> Must I change it?
00:12:43 <Bensawsome> that file needs to be in the root
00:12:49 <Bensawsome> you should move the files around
00:12:54 <Bensawsome> *shouldnt
00:13:39 <OliverK> eas: reinstall the platform to O:
00:13:44 <OliverK> just reinstall it
00:13:50 <eas> ok
00:14:35 <eas> I´m doing it
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00:15:35 <eas> Ok it works now
00:16:25 <eas> Sorry I must be a donkey
00:17:09 <eas> Thak you very much
00:17:59 <OliverK> eas no problem
00:18:03 <OliverK> glad its figured out
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00:35:06 <onestophome> Word up homies
00:35:10 * Bensawsome noms onestophome's brainz
00:35:13 <Bensawsome> XD
00:35:50 <onestophome> HAY! Git off mah brainzez!
00:36:17 * Roamer gives Bensawsome pork brains.
00:36:26 <Roamer> :P
00:37:53 <Mir> Bensawsome sould be carful, human brains kill
00:37:54 <Mir> D:
00:38:10 * onestophome haz killer brainz
00:38:14 <Mir> they contain a parasyte that doesnt infect unless you eat another huma's brains
00:38:32 <Mir> and there is a 100% fatality (eventualy)
00:38:34 <Bensawsome> lol
00:38:40 <Mir> sorry d00d
00:38:45 <Bensawsome> sry i was signing tax stuff
00:39:26 <onestophome> Everyone likes to munch some brain while doing their taxes.
00:39:43 <Bensawsome> yes ^_^
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00:42:37 <Bensawsome> ohaithar diib :)
00:42:42 <Bensawsome> i see you have a double :O
00:42:43 <Bensawsome> lol
00:42:50 <Bensawsome> they are multpying!
00:42:51 <Bensawsome> run!
00:42:53 <Bensawsome> lol
00:43:03 <diib> No. Dish network sucks.
00:43:05 <diib> :P
00:43:06 <Bensawsome> well excid3 is too
00:43:08 <Roamer> Quick! Kill teh clone!!! He's the evil one!
00:43:13 <Bensawsome> diib: wait
00:43:18 <Bensawsome> you have satleite internet?
00:43:22 <diib> I turned of the tv's and the internet went off?
00:43:23 <diib> LOL
00:43:32 <Roamer> fail
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00:43:34 <Roamer> lol
00:43:35 <Bensawsome> do you?
00:43:47 <Bensawsome> how does that exist
00:43:47 <diib> Bensawsome: I turned of the tv's and the internet went off?
00:43:51 <diib> Bensawsome: LOL
00:43:55 <Bensawsome> diib: so you dont
00:44:06 <Bensawsome> either way
00:44:17 <Bensawsome> i still dont get why satelite internet was invented
00:44:22 <Bensawsome> it just CANT be relibale
00:44:40 <diib> Bensawsome: <Roamer> fail
00:44:41 <onestophome> lol
00:44:51 <Bensawsome> PatrickPatience has it
00:44:55 <onestophome> I thought about Direct TV's internet
00:44:58 <Bensawsome> and it just... doesnt work
00:45:07 <Bensawsome> onestophome: WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT GET IT
00:45:14 <onestophome> My cable is just fine though.
00:45:21 <Bensawsome> any type of satelite internet sucks
00:45:25 <onestophome> For internet anyway
00:45:27 <Bensawsome> its unreliable
00:45:32 <Bensawsome> ...
00:45:35 <onestophome> I need satellite TV
00:45:39 <Bensawsome> hence i said "satelite internet"
00:45:41 <Bensawsome> :P
00:45:43 <onestophome> lol
00:45:44 <onestophome> :P
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00:46:46 <onestophome> I seriously LOVE Rubyripper
00:46:55 * Bensawsome kills rubyripper
00:46:56 <onestophome> It's teh absolute WIN!!!
00:46:56 <Bensawsome> ;p;
00:47:15 <Bensawsome> lol
00:47:28 <onestophome> EAC was one of the few Windows programs I missed.
00:47:32 <Bensawsome> anywho the point is, satelite is just overall unreliable
00:47:37 <Bensawsome> especially in new england :/
00:47:42 <onestophome> I don't need to miss it anymore now.
00:47:52 <onestophome> New England...
00:47:54 <onestophome> lol
00:47:59 <Bensawsome> lol
00:48:48 <onestophome> bbl
00:48:52 * Bensawsome slaps onestophome
00:48:53 <onestophome> or tomorrow
00:48:55 <Bensawsome> new england is kewl
00:49:05 <onestophome> :(
00:49:13 * onestophome slinks away
00:49:13 <Bensawsome> lol cya dyde
00:49:14 <Bensawsome> *dude
00:49:17 <onestophome> later
00:49:40 <Roamer> bye!!!
00:49:52 * Roamer prefers the south... Mmm... Chicken...
00:50:02 * Bensawsome slaps Roamer
00:50:06 <Bensawsome> the south sucks :P
00:50:09 <Bensawsome> lol jk
00:51:01 * Roamer gets teh monster truck with the gun rack in it... "Whut you say?"
00:51:08 <Roamer> :P
00:51:37 * Bensawsome gets the high tech ray gun on his lamborghini
00:51:40 <Bensawsome> >:)
00:51:45 <Bensawsome> what did YOU say?
00:51:50 * diib gets the spoon
00:51:54 <Bensawsome> lol
00:52:12 * diib hits roamer and bensawsome on the head.
00:52:25 <diib> You is mean peeps
00:52:29 * Bensawsome drives his lamborghini and shoots diib's spoon out of his head
00:52:33 <Bensawsome> err
00:52:35 <Bensawsome> *hand
00:52:52 * diib has another spoon?
00:53:03 * Bensawsome melts all of them
00:53:13 * Roamer crushes the the lamborghini and blows up the ray gun.
00:53:17 <diib> I has a bottomless pit of spoons. :D
00:53:30 * Bensawsome gets his army of ray gun wielding lamborghinis out
00:53:33 <Bensawsome> XD
00:53:37 * MaienM|Sleep throws diib in the bottomless pit
00:53:45 <diib> Spoons! :D
00:53:47 * Bensawsome uses them to blow up Roamer's stuff
00:53:53 <Roamer> to the ot!
00:53:57 <Bensawsome> lol ya
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01:26:30 <Bensawsome> aww... people leave :(
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01:27:54 <SergentSiler> lolz
01:28:07 * SergentSiler tosses waffles at Bensawsome
01:28:49 * Bensawsome jumps at the waffles and eats them but then flys too hard and eats SergentSiler's arm too
01:29:04 <SergentSiler> D:
01:29:13 <Bensawsome> ok guys
01:29:15 <Bensawsome> gimme open source games plz
01:29:19 <SergentSiler> lol
01:29:21 <Bensawsome> ima making a post on the site
01:29:30 <Bensawsome> err the pagc one that is
01:29:42 <SergentSiler> nexuiz, warsaw, neverball, open arena, ailen arena
01:29:47 <SergentSiler> Cube
01:29:48 <Bensawsome> ty
01:29:52 <SergentSiler> cube 2
01:29:54 <Bensawsome> and what os are they for >_>
01:29:57 <SergentSiler> assult cube
01:30:06 <SergentSiler> saurbrauten
01:30:16 <SergentSiler> (most are for at least win + lin)
01:30:33 <Bensawsome> lol
01:31:20 <Bensawsome> actualy SergentSiler
01:31:27 <Bensawsome> im gonna make the psot
01:31:35 <SergentSiler> :P
01:31:48 <Bensawsome> and you guys gimme more but make them in the format specified on the post
01:32:16 <SergentSiler> Tremulous <<--notha one
01:32:32 <SergentSiler> Torcs <<-- notha one
01:32:33 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler: wait for the post :P
01:32:37 <SergentSiler> :P
01:32:58 <SergentSiler> Fight Win Prevail <<-notha one :D
01:33:40 <Bensawsome> ok SergentSiler: http://pagamesclan.com/viewtopic.php?p=4#p4
01:34:42 <SergentSiler> im posin
01:34:43 <SergentSiler> er
01:34:45 <SergentSiler> postin
01:34:52 <Bensawsome> kk
01:35:07 <Bensawsome> make sure to do it in the specified format SergentSiler!
01:35:08 <Bensawsome> lol
01:35:15 <SergentSiler> :P
01:35:15 <Bensawsome> oh
01:35:21 <Bensawsome> and lets take this to #PAGamesClan >_>
01:35:36 <SergentSiler> ya
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02:21:04 <JacobMastel> HELLO!!
02:21:06 * JacobMastel listens to the echo
02:24:08 <PatrickPatience> *echo comes back and smacks JacobMastel in the forehead*
02:24:20 <JacobMastel> *ouch*
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04:59:53 <ChrisMorgan> OK... anyone here who has tested Code::Blocks Portable?
05:03:45 <ChrisMorgan> Heyyy... two and a half hours of silence which I shattered... :-)
05:03:56 <Havvy> Fail!
05:04:10 <ChrisMorgan> Havvy: what? Code::Blocks Portable? :o
05:04:10 <ChrisMorgan> :P
05:04:24 <Havvy> No, your breaking of silence.
05:04:40 <ChrisMorgan> Havvy: or did you think I was saying "Havvy" and got eyy instead of avv? :P
05:06:04 <Havvy> No
05:06:30 <Havvy> It was the breaking of silence.
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05:07:19 <ChrisMorgan> GRR! Ben had his auth details on this copy of TortoiseSVN so my PortableApps.com-build-enhancing code gets attributed to him :-( http://code.google.com/p/bpbible/source/detail?r=631
05:09:02 <ChrisMorgan> Robbed of a commit :-(
05:09:08 <ChrisMorgan> Ah well, at least the code gets in there :-)
05:09:16 <ChrisMorgan> And if it doesn't work I can blame Ben ;-)
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06:35:04 <ChrisMorgan> PatrickP|Away: are you dealing with Deluge Portable not being up? http://portableapps.com/node/12115#new
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07:59:00 <MaienM|Sleep> I see your released c::b portable ChrisMorgan? ;)
08:00:38 <MaienM|Sleep> ChrisMorgan: btw, you still have to update the information at the development/test page
08:07:21 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM|Sleep: i know
08:07:26 <ChrisMorgan> thx for reminding me though
08:07:32 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM|Sleep: have you tried it?
08:07:44 <MaienM|Sleep> nope, I haven't.... I probably will though ;)
08:08:08 <MaienM|Sleep> I use linux on my home pc so using it at home isn't really a option
08:09:25 <MaienM|Sleep> I'm kinda drawing out a design plan for that manager app now, so I can get to work on it some more soon :)
08:15:25 <ChrisMorgan> OK, updated d/t
08:15:46 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM|Sleep: can't you test it in WINE
08:15:48 <ChrisMorgan> ?
08:16:12 <MaienM|Sleep> I can test it in VM, sure ;)
08:16:21 <MaienM|Sleep> later though
08:16:26 <ChrisMorgan> It'd be good to have a WINE tester as well.
08:16:31 <ChrisMorgan> Do you have WINE?
08:16:33 <MaienM|Sleep> sure
08:16:33 <MaienM|Sleep> yeah
08:16:41 <ChrisMorgan> Good, thanks in advance ;-)(
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11:45:51 <pa_184784> hi everybody
11:46:15 <pa_184784> Is it possible to post a translated portable application?
11:46:50 <pa_184784> i made thunderbird portable 2.0.0.21 dutch so maybe other peaple can use it
11:48:06 <pa_184784> if anyone is interested just mail me @ joost@pcinfo.be
11:48:14 <pa_184784> thanks
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11:48:36 <Bensawsome> lol
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12:11:41 <Wes|IT> O.O
12:12:09 * Bensawsome waves ohaithar at Wes|IT
12:12:13 <Wes|IT> im looking through a guys art galery, and i see this picture with a mans *ehem*showing
12:12:22 <Bensawsome> .....
12:12:33 * Wes|IT thinks that was just really gay
12:12:43 * Wes|IT tries to clear it from head
12:12:46 <Bensawsome> we all obviously want to know that......
12:12:48 <Wes|IT> *bangs head desk*
12:13:03 <onestoploser> Not only that Wes|IT, but it's art not porn.
12:13:09 * Bensawsome help Wes|IT bang it
12:13:21 <Bensawsome> madness? this... is... SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
12:13:29 <Wes|IT> rofl ben
12:13:39 <Bensawsome> lol
12:14:27 * Bensawsome points everyone at: http://pagamesclan.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3&p=4#p4
12:14:49 <Wes|IT> is it swf xD
12:14:53 <Wes|IT> sfw*
12:15:08 <Bensawsome> oh ya
12:15:14 <Bensawsome> its just open source ganes :/
12:15:28 <Bensawsome> *games
12:15:31 <Wes|IT> lol was just kidding
12:15:36 <Wes|IT> xD
12:15:42 <Wes|IT> phail ben
12:16:03 <Wes|IT> though nice templete ZachThibeau
12:16:29 <Wes|IT> UGH
12:16:31 <ZachThibeau> ty Wes|IT it's still not finished though
12:16:38 <Wes|IT> can't wait till my ipod touch comes in today
12:16:43 <Wes|IT> kool
12:16:45 <Wes|IT> whats left?
12:17:19 <Bensawsome> dunno
12:17:24 <Bensawsome> we must search them out =_=
12:17:25 <Wes|IT> nice... i just spilt sunkist on myself
12:17:31 <Bensawsome> XD
12:17:42 <Bensawsome> Wes|IT: your shipment of fail has arrived
12:17:46 * Wes|IT blames ben o_O
12:17:47 <Bensawsome> lol
12:18:05 <Wes|IT> rofl
12:18:14 <Bensawsome> Wes|IT: i have never once in the 10 years of using a computer spilled anything on or near the computer :)
12:18:16 <Wes|IT> so thats what took my laptop so long :/
12:18:20 <Bensawsome> lol
12:18:35 <Wes|IT> i never have split anythign a computer
12:18:44 <Wes|IT> but my lap is a magnet for food and drink :|
12:18:49 <Wes|IT> anything on a*
12:18:53 <Bensawsome> lol
12:19:03 <Wes|IT> i just cant understand it :?
12:19:37 <Wes|IT> rmccue and henryleff is gonna break twitter
12:19:44 <Wes|IT> ben u use twitter?
12:19:46 <Bensawsome> o_0
12:19:50 <Bensawsome> ya i do
12:19:58 <Bensawsome> but why are they gonna break it.....
12:20:33 <Wes|IT> to much tweets AHHHH...
12:20:35 <Wes|IT> too
12:20:54 <Wes|IT> *sneeze*
12:21:01 <Bensawsome> lol
12:21:04 * Bensawsome laughs
12:21:12 * Bensawsome starts singing RUNNING IN THE 90's!
12:21:18 <Wes|IT> :/
12:21:18 <Bensawsome> lol internet!
12:21:23 <Bensawsome> .o twitter
12:21:23 <Wes|IT> stupid alergies
12:21:24 <Bensawsome> >_>
12:21:24 <GizmoBot> <@Bensawsome> lol cable internet: http://broadbandsteamlol.ytmnd.com/ (http://twitter.com/Bensawsome/statuses/1377007562)
12:21:26 <Bensawsome> :D
12:21:32 <Wes|IT> rofl
12:21:37 * Bensawsome tells Wes|IT to go their!!! but only if you have sound
12:21:38 <Wes|IT> u set that last night ben
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12:21:43 <Bensawsome> yarly!
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12:23:56 <Wes|IT> nice, portable tv converter box http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVKm45r0uUY
12:24:06 <Bensawsome> I'm just running in the nineties! come on baby run to me! We are running in the nineties, is a new way to set me free! I'm just running in the nineties! yes I wanna know, yes I wanna see!
12:24:22 * Wes|IT pokes ben
12:24:24 * Bensawsome starts break dancing
12:24:37 * Bensawsome can't watch youtube as I am at school
12:24:38 * Wes|IT hides eyes
12:24:44 <Wes|IT> too much WIERDNESS
12:24:47 <Wes|IT> ;)
12:24:50 <Bensawsome> actually if you saw me im pretty good
12:24:51 <Bensawsome> lol
12:24:59 <Bensawsome> well i used to be really good......
12:25:14 * Wes|IT thinks ben is bored
12:25:20 <Bensawsome> no im not
12:25:21 <Bensawsome> well
12:25:23 <Bensawsome> i am
12:25:28 <Wes|IT> lol\
12:25:33 <Bensawsome> but im serious about the break dancing thing
12:25:58 <Wes|IT> :/
12:26:14 * Wes|IT backs away fomr the computer... slowly...
12:26:19 <Wes|IT> FROM
12:26:24 <Wes|IT> *bangs head desk*
12:26:35 * Bensawsome helps
12:26:39 <Bensawsome> lol
12:26:40 <Bensawsome> BANG
12:28:56 * Wes|IT slaps ben for getting involved
12:29:29 * Bensawsome bangs Wes|IT's head more
12:29:31 <Bensawsome> muahahah!
12:29:59 <Wes|IT> shh
12:30:39 <Wes|IT> WAFFLES!!!
12:33:22 <Wes|IT> gtg
12:33:23 <Wes|IT> bye
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13:13:11 <Bensawsome> onestoploser: i lol'd
13:13:37 <onestoploser> At what?
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13:30:30 <st3v3> having missing icons under vista after upgrade to 1.5.2, XP still shows them
13:33:51 <st3v3> anyone explored the same ? forum was no help...
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13:45:24 <onestoploser> I wonder why they never stick around long enough to get an answer...
13:47:16 <ZachThibeau> they expect it right away
13:48:22 <ZachThibeau> it's like when I worked at a call center, they want the world and they want it now
13:48:29 <ZachThibeau> they being the customers
13:50:18 <onestoploser> True
13:50:21 <onestoploser> Good point
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14:01:59 <pa_1154> Can i speak german here?
14:06:30 <pa_1154> I want to know, how i can convert programes for the Suite :-)
14:20:41 <pa_1154> Is anybody there?
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14:32:55 <pa_7657> Bad Live Support :-(
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14:34:45 <Bensawsome> lol
14:35:21 <onestoploser> Did he even ask a question?
14:35:30 <Bensawsome> onestoploser: he came in twice :/
14:35:39 <onestoploser> That was the German guy?
14:39:37 <Bensawsome> ya
14:39:39 <Bensawsome> sry
14:39:44 <Bensawsome> had to go to library :/
14:43:05 <Bensawsome> oh and onestoploser ty for ur comment on the pagc forums ^_^
14:43:06 <onestoploser> lol
14:43:07 <onestoploser> s'ok
14:43:12 <onestoploser> :D
14:43:32 <Bensawsome> we must find more! MORE! lol
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15:25:08 <JohnTHaller> ho - la
15:25:16 <MaienM|School> hello JohnTHaller
15:25:38 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller :)
15:26:01 <JohnTHaller> How goes it
15:26:36 <Bensawsome> it goes good
15:26:56 <Bensawsome> gtg guys
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15:40:18 <pa_7825> Hi, I am trying to locate a video or two on downloading and using portable apps. The ones on youtube are soooo hard to view that they wouldn't be helpful to students
15:40:32 <pa_7825> Do you know of any good videos on 'how to'?
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15:41:15 <pa_7825> Help!
15:41:53 <pa_7825> Hi, I am trying to locate a video or two on downloading and using portable apps. The ones on youtube are soooo hard to view that they wouldn't be helpful to students
15:42:01 <pa_7825> Do you know of any good videos on 'how to'?
15:43:12 <MaienM|School> I don't know of any, but this link explains the process well enough I'd say: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite
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15:45:18 <pa_7825> ok, i will check that out. thanks!
15:46:02 <pa_7825> I was just hoping to find videos rather than text for those who are not as comfortable with technology.
15:47:17 <MaienM|School> I don't know of any videos that explain the process.... luckily its isn't that complicated, its designed to be as easy to use as possible :)
15:48:30 <Bensawsome> well i think there are some on youtube but they arent made by us so we can't guarentee the quality/acuracy of them :/
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16:19:28 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
16:19:31 <Gizmokid2005> et al
16:22:42 <JohnTHaller> hi
16:22:54 <Gizmokid2005> how's it going?
16:28:26 <JohnTHaller> tired. finishing up winmerge
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16:35:26 <Bensawsome> hey purple >_> you need to identify so it doesnt change to the guest thing
16:35:27 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: for NSISPortable should I move all plugins and nsh files to the Application Directory or in the Data Folder since I believe the issue was nsis wasn't finding them properly in the Data folder
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16:36:13 <JohnTHaller> should be in app directory
16:36:17 <JohnTHaller> standard across all apps
16:36:19 <Guest85451> Bensawsome, i dont care for that, im fixing myself a font smoothing on linux desktop and sometime it requires xchat restart to show fonts best
16:36:20 <ZachThibeau> thats what I though
16:36:21 <ZachThibeau> t
16:36:29 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: WinMerge Portable 2.12.0: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-03-24_-_winmerge_portable_2.12.0
16:37:07 <Bensawsome> oh ok
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16:50:30 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: what are your thoughts on making KVIrc DT6 a PR?
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16:51:36 <onestoploser> I've been using your DTs as my only portable clients since you've released them Gizmokid2005
16:52:24 <onestoploser> Other than the minor issues in the first couple tests, it's perfect now
16:53:22 <JohnTHaller> any complaints with the current release?
16:53:33 <onestoploser> None whatsoever
16:54:39 <Gizmokid2005> I've used it too, the only issues I had originally, with settings not copying in time, I resolved in the launcher, instead of copyfiles, just using rename
16:54:43 <Gizmokid2005> and they've been alleviated
16:55:05 <JohnTHaller> well, let's do it then
16:55:11 <JohnTHaller> got a high res logo for a splash?
16:55:22 <Gizmokid2005> I do
16:55:33 <Gizmokid2005> do you mind holding off for a few? Time to run tot he store quick
16:55:38 <Gizmokid2005> maybe 20 mins
16:56:41 <Gizmokid2005> I will send the logo now
16:56:44 <Gizmokid2005> where would you like it JohnTHaller?
16:57:49 <JohnTHaller> post it in the topic
16:59:53 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: here too: https://svn.kvirc.de/svn/trunk/kvirc/data/icons/128x128/kvirc.png
17:00:07 <Gizmokid2005> per the devs, these are all their icons: https://svn.kvirc.de/svn/trunk/kvirc/data/icons/
17:00:51 <Bensawsome> >_> invalid security certificate <_<
17:01:06 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yeah
17:01:08 <Gizmokid2005> it's safe though
17:01:12 <Gizmokid2005> it's just their svn
17:01:19 <Gizmokid2005> adding icon to topic now
17:01:21 <Bensawsome> no nothing is safe >_> everyone is out to get you :P
17:03:23 <ZachThibeau> like your waffle Bensawsome it's out to seek it's revenge on you
17:03:32 <Bensawsome> :P
17:04:39 <Gizmokid2005> Ok...I feel like an idiot...how do I get to post the icon in the topic??
17:04:40 <Gizmokid2005> :()
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17:04:56 <ZachThibeau> <a href="urlhere">name</a>
17:05:06 <ZachThibeau> html basics FTW
17:05:14 <Gizmokid2005> well I was using <img>
17:05:17 <JohnTHaller> you just upload it somewhere and post it in a link.
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17:05:26 <ZachThibeau> img tags aren't supported Gizmokid2005
17:05:52 <Gizmokid2005> K
17:05:53 <Gizmokid2005> added JohnTHaller
17:05:56 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/node/18545#comment-115267
17:05:59 <Gizmokid2005> I'll be back soon
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17:07:37 <KookyMan> Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening/Night
17:07:56 <ZachThibeau> howdy KookyMan how can we be of assistance
17:08:51 <KookyMan> Just stopping in.. just had a wild suggestive idea for future version of the PAP.... Folder Support for the menus
17:09:06 <ZachThibeau> KookyMan: you are not the first one to suggest that ;)
17:09:29 <ZachThibeau> in fact we are getting category support soon for the Platform when 2.0 comes out
17:10:09 <KookyMan> well, since I finally read and found out how to do non-packaged apps to the menu, its nice.... but adding my game directory wasn't fun because now I have 30 icons for 'little used' applications..
17:10:49 <ZachThibeau> you can hide those you know ;)
17:11:02 <KookyMan> yea, I can take them back out of the PA Directory :)
17:11:13 <ZachThibeau> it's documented here http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#hidingicons
17:11:22 <ZachThibeau> you can do it without removing them too :P
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17:12:36 <KookyMan> Oh heres one that might be worthwile.... I'm not sure what the filter is for what to generate icons for, if its *.exe, but perhaps have an filter option to not create filters for *uninstall*.* but that might be a fringe exception
17:12:48 <KookyMan> er not create icons
17:13:11 <JohnTHaller> it already filters uninstall.exe. but there are lots of different uninstall exes that apps include
17:13:27 <JohnTHaller> course, you can delete them to remove them and save space since they're not needed (and wouldn't work anyway)
17:13:29 <JohnTHaller> or hide em
17:13:40 <KookyMan> Thats why I suggested *uninstall*.exe
17:13:56 <KookyMan> Yea, I'm not sure why a non-installed application even had an uninstall exe file.
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17:16:08 <KookyMan> Otherwise, I've througholy enjoyed PA since I ditched U3 for it.
17:16:29 <JohnTHaller> The problem is that some people use things like uninstaller utilities to clean PCs from the PA menu. So *uninstall* would remove them, too :-(
17:16:36 <JohnTHaller> That's why I decided against it
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17:16:47 <JohnTHaller> Thanks. Lots of people have switched to PA.c from U3
17:17:04 <Wes|IT> support?
17:17:10 <ZachThibeau> yes
17:17:15 <KookyMan> Any word on possibly something that might make updates a bit more convienient?
17:17:36 <r4ban> exactly what i came here for...
17:17:37 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, this: http://portableapps.com/node/14735
17:17:59 <JohnTHaller> It's still very much a beta, but it's getting there. And will be polished and included in the platform
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17:18:08 <KookyMan> JohnTHaller - Update your link, http://portableapps.com/node/16779
17:18:16 <JohnTHaller> ah yes
17:19:26 <KookyMan> Does the menu know the version numbers of the software currently installed or no?
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17:21:05 <ZachThibeau> hover above the app icon in the menu and it will tell you
17:21:15 <r4ban> how can i stop the PA menu from showing multiple exe files in a folder? there are apps that have more than 1 exe file, and i want to know if i can hide certain files from appearing in the menu
17:21:21 <ZachThibeau> and the updater should be able to detect the version too
17:21:37 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: It does. Hover over an app and it'll tell you. The updater detects it too
17:21:44 <JohnTHaller> r4ban: You can hide anything you'd like
17:22:01 <JohnTHaller> Right-click and rename it to a single dash (aka a minus sign)
17:22:37 <ZachThibeau> r4ban: and also look at this for further information http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#hidingicons
17:23:20 <KookyMan> Well, how about a quick/dirty upgrader idea until the 'full' upgrader is online. Have a simple txt file available on the PA.c site, complressed even, that has the app and version number. Do a quick check, if loaded version older than current, add an icon to the menu, like a little * to the updated apps. This should be simple, quick, and can be configured to happen once a day/week... If the user wants to update, they can sti
17:23:21 <KookyMan> get it
17:24:00 <KookyMan> simple on/off switch for privacy concerns.
17:24:10 <JohnTHaller> Nah. Anybody that wants it can do it right now in the updater.
17:24:22 <r4ban> oops
17:24:25 <JohnTHaller> It works fine functionaly. The interface is a bit unpolished though
17:24:30 <r4ban> i was stuck with version 1.1 ...
17:24:49 <r4ban> no wonder it didn't work >_<
17:24:51 <JohnTHaller> (and written by someone who English isn't their main language, so some of the dialogs aren't as clear as they could be)
17:24:55 <ZachThibeau> r4ban: thats ok :) 1.5 is chuck full of new features :)
17:25:02 <JohnTHaller> and looks hotter
17:25:13 <ZachThibeau> yup :)
17:26:01 <JohnTHaller> I may release 1.6 today with updated localizations, updated theme engine so people can start testing simple themes and the extensions enabled
17:26:01 <r4ban> niiiice
17:26:09 <r4ban> thanks ZachThibeau & JohnTHaller
17:26:24 <ZachThibeau> ohh nice JohnTHaller :)
17:26:30 <KookyMan> John - are the missing icons fixed in 16?
17:26:36 <JohnTHaller> Huh?
17:26:43 <JohnTHaller> What missing icons?
17:26:48 <KookyMan> Missing application icons
17:26:51 * ZachThibeau gets working on a Vista Startmenu design for the Platform
17:27:16 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: I don't know what you mean. I've never missed any application icons.
17:27:33 <KookyMan> http://portableapps.com/node/18404
17:27:52 <KookyMan> Screenshot is available from there.
17:28:54 <JohnTHaller> Considering we've only had two reports of it and none of our devs have been able to reproduce it on any machines at all... there's not much I can do to 'fix' it.
17:29:09 <KookyMan> Let me see if I can repro on these machines.. one moment
17:29:52 <JohnTHaller> I've tried. On every machine and VM I have. Nothing.
17:30:20 <JohnTHaller> Win95, 98, 2K, XP, Vista, Win7... multiple resolutions and screen color depths... nothing. all work as expected.
17:30:24 <ZachThibeau> I tried it on all my pc's and they number in 3 and also in Linux via wine
17:30:33 <ZachThibeau> nothing wrong that I could find
17:30:56 <KookyMan> I have no icons on any of the machines I've used at school
17:31:03 <MaienM> I'd say the problem is unrelated to the PAM, but more related to the local install?
17:31:22 <ZachThibeau> yeah that could be the case
17:31:33 <ZachThibeau> I emphasize the could though
17:31:37 <JohnTHaller> Can't figure out how, though.\
17:31:38 <KookyMan> What could make half of the icons dissapear
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17:31:47 <MaienM> like, a broken/missing .dll or something.....
17:32:01 <ZachThibeau> incomplete install maybe
17:32:10 <MaienM> altho thats a long shot, considering it working partially
17:32:11 <onestoploser> I have a couple apps that have no icons
17:32:15 <Play> Hello,i would like to know hw to do a shortcut to the PA
17:32:22 <onestoploser> But I don't think it's a menu problem
17:32:27 <Play> of word microsoft
17:32:32 <JohnTHaller> Is it only icons that are from PAF apps... ones that have AppInfo directories?
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17:32:47 <KookyMan> only paf packaged applications, yes
17:32:48 <JohnTHaller> Discuss more, please... and coment in topic... I'm late for something... back in about an hour
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17:33:31 <JohnTHaller|away> If we can figure out what's wrong, I can load the icons the old fashioned way like we're gonna do for Wine
17:33:56 <pa_3988> Hello,i would like to know hw to do a shortcut to the PA of microsoft word,i tried but it wont let me
17:34:08 <ZachThibeau> pa_3988: how are you trying to do it
17:34:39 <KookyMan> I added two directries for non-packaged applications and all those icons appear in pap immediately (upon refresh).
17:34:44 <pa_3988> options -> install a new app
17:35:09 <KookyMan> Microsoft word is the antithesis of portable.
17:35:27 <pa_3988> yea but i downloaded hacked one
17:35:30 <pa_3988> that is portable
17:35:34 <KookyMan> Then don't discuss it here.
17:35:41 <pa_3988> oh ok :O
17:35:42 <MaienM> well we don't support illegal apps like that pa_3988
17:35:43 <Bensawsome> pa_3988: that is warez then....
17:35:44 <KookyMan> Topic is 'Welcome to the PortableApps.com Support Channel | New Releases & Updates: http://PortableApps.com/News | Looking for support? Try saying "help!" | This channel is G-rated | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not discuss illegal software (e.g. Portable Photoshop, Microsoft Office)'
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17:36:39 <pa_3988> but if i have leagal one..,i can able to port it or not?
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17:36:56 <ZachThibeau> pa_3988: we don't really discuss illegal copies of MS Word
17:37:00 <Bensawsome> there is no legal portable Microsoft Word. its against their license
17:37:13 <Bensawsome> we cant even make a launcher for it
17:37:24 <ZachThibeau> I suggest trying OpenOffice Portable which does the samething as MS Office but free :)
17:37:43 <KookyMan> Again, Word is the antithesis of portable.. its designed not to be.
17:38:11 <pa_3988> ok...about Oopen office...i dont like it to much simple :S
17:38:20 <KookyMan> Openoffice isn't simple.
17:38:57 <KookyMan> well, it is in a good way.. but it can still do almost everything word can do...
17:39:11 <r4ban> updater is working nice after a .ini mod
17:39:23 <ZachThibeau> OpenOffice looks like MS Office 2000. thats not simple in anyway and you are probably thinking of Abiword pa_3988
17:39:37 <Bensawsome> pa_3988: there is also abiword portable on the site
17:39:46 <KookyMan> Any idea when the next beta of updater will be out?
17:40:05 <ZachThibeau> KookyMan: no idea until the author says really
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17:42:40 <r4ban> are there any "troubleshooting" tools you guys recommend, besides the ones on the portableapps.com site?
17:42:56 <r4ban> i.e. process explorer
17:43:11 <KookyMan> What are you trying to troubleshoot?
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17:44:11 <r4ban> i just want a general portable toolkit for windows xp/vista
17:44:36 <r4ban> malware removal, troubleshoot internet, analize disks, etc
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17:45:12 <ZachThibeau> none that works portably since a lot needs drivers to be installed which requires administrative rights
17:47:10 <KookyMan> yep
17:47:14 <r4ban> i've managed to put a few of these in the PA menu
17:47:16 <r4ban> http://www.roadkil.net/downloads.php
17:47:23 <KookyMan> Process Explorer I like
17:47:40 <KookyMan> actually, all of the sysinternals that are not installed should work, just weed out what you don't need
17:48:19 <r4ban> most are just 1 exe files
17:48:30 <KookyMan> yep
17:48:40 <KookyMan> which is the epitome of portable :)
17:49:21 <KookyMan> Often times, the simplest applications are the most effective anyways...
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17:50:59 <r4ban> well, this one resets TCP connections nicely :P http://www.roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=10
17:51:02 <KookyMan> wb
17:51:05 <r4ban> ty
17:53:53 <ZachThibeau> updated NSISPortable to Pre-Release 4 get it while it's hot http://portableapps.com/node/18263#comment-115274
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17:54:16 <kubrick.freenode.net> Users on #portableapps: palogbot r4ban +ZachThibeau matborden prapper KookyMan @JohnTHaller|away TheWarden @Gizmokid2005|AFK Suiseiseki onestoploser BjornH dbdii407 excid3 StatBot @PatrickP|Away MaienM Bryanstein tarbo Seth_Hikaru_ Bensawsome +GizmoBot Mir
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18:06:47 <purple> http://start.io/
18:08:45 <prapper> hello everyone :-)
18:09:13 <ZachThibeau> howdy prapper
18:09:58 <prapper> I saw somebody request a launcher for FormatFacotry in the forums the other day so I was thinking of posting mine...
18:10:10 <prapper> factory... even
18:10:47 <prapper> I've a couple of questions though...
18:13:29 <prapper> Is it still the dev test splash for a launcher?
18:16:40 <prapper> The version numbers in the appinfo and at the top of the nsi... is there some particular scheme I should use or is it up to me? I'm assuming these numbers are for the launcher and not the main app
18:17:30 <prapper> And do I still have to include the NSIS plugins in the source directory?
18:17:51 <MaienM> prapper: I think it should use the dev splash, yes
18:18:25 <MaienM> as for the source folder, check a existing app to see what needs to be in it
18:18:25 <prapper> ok, thanks.
18:18:54 <MaienM> any non default plugin (so not downloadable from the NSIS site) should be include
18:19:13 <MaienM> so all they need to compile the launcher is either in the source dir or on the NSIS website
18:19:32 <MaienM> and as for the numbers, one second
18:20:35 <prapper> ok. I read somewhere that wasn't the case anymore but if that's the official word...
18:21:19 <MaienM> well I'm not 100% sure about it and my word is in no way the official word, but afaik thats the way it is
18:21:31 <MaienM> about the version numbers, http://portableapps.com/node/14939#comment-93052
18:22:01 <prapper> ok. thanks for the link, I'll check it out now
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18:27:07 <pa_4088> hi
18:27:18 <pa_4088> need some help please
18:27:50 <MaienM> hello pa_4088, what can we help you with?
18:28:11 <pa_4088> thank you for responding
18:28:21 <pa_4088> i can't read chinese
18:28:29 <pa_4088> on both
18:28:40 <pa_4088> chinese web site and MSN
18:29:27 <pa_4088> ANY IDEA?
18:29:48 <ZachThibeau> could you explain in greater detail than that
18:29:56 <ZachThibeau> are you using FireFoxPortable?
18:29:59 <pa_4088> YES
18:30:06 <pa_4088> YES
18:30:15 <pa_4088> I AM USING FIREFOX PORTABLE
18:30:24 <KookyMan> please don't yell.
18:30:26 <MaienM> pa_4088: please turn your caps of
18:30:27 <ZachThibeau> stop with the caps it's not going to get you anymore help
18:30:38 <pa_4088> sorry
18:30:51 <pa_4088> it was accidently turn on
18:31:00 <pa_4088> i did not meant it that way
18:31:03 <MaienM> what version of firefox portable are you running pa_4088?
18:31:31 <pa_4088> 1.61.0
18:31:47 <MaienM> thats a very old version
18:31:53 <pa_4088> really?
18:31:59 <MaienM> it would be best for you to update to the newest version
18:32:05 <pa_4088> i just download it yesterday
18:32:23 <ZachThibeau> latest version is 3.07
18:32:28 <MaienM> we are at version 3.0.7 atm so 1.61.0 is very outdated
18:32:29 <pa_4088> i see
18:32:30 <MaienM> http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
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18:44:32 <ZachThibeau> howdy andreasma
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18:53:17 <ZachThibeau> well I am off y'all
18:53:23 <ZachThibeau> time for me to prepare for work
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18:57:19 <sar3th|linux> hello everyone
18:57:26 <SergentSiler> ohai
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19:06:38 <SergentSiler> hello JohnTHaller
19:06:40 <JohnTHaller> hi again
19:06:48 <Bensawsome> hey john :)
19:07:01 <JohnTHaller> sorry i had to take off earlier, was late for meeting someone
19:07:28 <JohnTHaller> Any more insights into why a handful of users have icons disappearing?
19:10:50 <KookyMan> Its ok John, we kind of got ran off that topic when you left anyways
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19:13:29 <JohnTHaller> Can you reproduce it KookyMan
19:13:43 <KookyMan> Not on my PCs at home apparently.
19:13:58 <JohnTHaller> Only the locked down school ones?
19:14:47 <KookyMan> Yes, although they are not necessarilly locked down.
19:15:02 <KookyMan> We have full administrative access on the machines from what I can tell, but we do log in via a domain.
19:15:40 <Bensawsome> that should affect it because both my school and my work does that and im always able to use portableapp
19:15:46 <Bensawsome> *shouldnt
19:15:48 <Bensawsome> lol sry
19:15:52 <KookyMan> Its Ok
19:16:07 <Bensawsome> dang i cant type today :/
19:16:11 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: You there now?
19:16:16 <KookyMan> No, I'm at home.
19:16:28 <sar3th|linux> at school, we have loked-down user accounts logging in via domain, but i didn't notice any strange behaviour yet
19:16:53 <Bensawsome> ya as long as none of the appsd use the registry mine run fine
19:17:01 <Bensawsome> and we have full admin at work so...
19:17:22 <Bensawsome> plus im in the it dept anyways so i know the admin pass XD
19:17:27 <SergentSiler> at mah school everything works fine and our comps are about as locked down as they get
19:17:32 <Bensawsome> lol
19:17:48 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler: but they dont not allow executing of non approved exes :P
19:17:57 <Bensawsome> now THAT is locked down
19:18:01 <SergentSiler> actually...
19:18:09 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: When you're at school again, can you try the AppInfo directory rename I mentioned in the thread. And also confirm that it affects all apps in PortableApps.com Format (usually indicated by them having an AppInfo directory) but no other apps?
19:18:09 <SergentSiler> there are exes that they block
19:18:28 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler: ya but they dont block all except approved ones :P
19:18:36 <Bensawsome> they block specfic ones
19:18:39 <SergentSiler> ya
19:18:53 <Bensawsome> just like my school blocks specfic ports :/
19:19:00 <JohnTHaller> please make single posts instead of multiple line posts guys. it's distracting and I'm trying to work with KookyMan on an issue
19:19:01 <SergentSiler> same here
19:19:06 * Bensawsome changes his bnc port and sets up bitlbee
19:19:10 <Bensawsome> pwnt :P
19:19:14 <JohnTHaller> STOP THE NOISE NOW!
19:19:29 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: When you're at school again, can you try the AppInfo directory rename I mentioned in the thread. And also confirm that it affects all apps in PortableApps.com Format (usually indicated by them having an AppInfo directory) but no other apps?
19:20:04 <KookyMan> John - Until yesterday, I only had PAF apps in my folder, and was showing no icons whatsoever. I added two folders, both with non PAF applications, refreshed my apps in PAP, and those icons (only those) now show in PAP.
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19:20:42 <KookyMan> JohnTHaller - Correction, I was showing the Docs, Options, Browse icons, when I say no icons, I meant application icons, just for the record.
19:20:43 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: Ah, ok. Could you try the AppInfo rename trick I mentioned in the thread (just rename it to AppInfo2 and refresh) and see if that works.
19:20:49 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I figured
19:21:49 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: Also, when are you in school? Any chance you can be at school and try some test builds one day?
19:22:27 <JohnTHaller> I'd like to get the icon disappearing thing fixed, but it's touch when I can't reproduce it at all or figure out what is causing it.
19:22:35 <KookyMan> I'm planning to be there tommorrow, if not tommorrow Thursday.
19:23:31 <JohnTHaller> Ok. Hopefully I'll be around.
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19:24:05 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: Know about when/what time? (also what time zone you're in)
19:24:31 <KookyMan> EST, tommorrow 11-1, Thu it will be in the evening, 5-6 most likely
19:24:52 <KookyMan> er EDT now :)
19:25:33 <JohnTHaller> Ah ok. I'll be around from 11-1. Maybe I can package a test build. I have some ideas that may work
19:26:53 <KookyMan> Ok...
19:29:15 <KookyMan> One item of note, that may or may not play into this, the systems are set for allowing windows to decide how much visual element to instill based on performance (the default) and as a result some of the machines at the college use the non-themed, non-aero experiance. Might that have any relevance?
19:30:23 <KookyMan> JohnTHaller - which thread did you say to rename appinfo?
19:30:28 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... probably not. I think I've tried it on non-aero
19:30:46 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/node/18404
19:32:46 <MaienM> I have tried it on non aero, and it works fine
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20:37:33 <Gizmokid2005> hello all, I'm back
20:39:06 <KevinPorter> Welcome back Gizmokid2005.
20:39:10 <Gizmokid2005> thanks KevinPorter
20:39:33 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: find the image?
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21:01:03 <SilentWalker> hello everyone:)......i havent been on the forums much lately so i wanna know if the 2.0 test release has been out yet?
21:01:41 <SilentWalker> sorry, not the forums.....i meant this chan
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21:06:39 <TimClark> Hello All :)
21:07:29 <TimClark> SilentWalker: No, not yet
21:07:31 <KevinPorter> Hi TimClark. :)
21:07:58 <SilentWalker> hi tim clark:)
21:08:06 <TimClark> It is unlikely it would be here for more than a hour before hitting the forums, so if you don't see it there it's not out
21:08:29 <SilentWalker> ok.....ill check often:)....(obviously)
21:08:41 <TimClark> check what ?
21:08:51 <SilentWalker> the forums:P
21:09:02 <TimClark> right, that's the best way
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21:19:20 <Oni-Wii> Hello everyone
21:19:22 <TimClark> For those of you who use/track AV products: here are the latest results from AV-Comparatives http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests
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21:19:34 <Gizmokid2005> good link TimClark :)
21:19:44 * Gizmokid2005 views
21:19:53 <Oni-Wii> I like it
21:20:23 <TimClark> My products [which will remain nameless to prevent bashing :P ] did quite well :)
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21:21:03 <Oni-Wii> TimClark. can you send me a .tell or .memo to my original account. "Oni-Neoxes"
21:22:14 <Oni-Wii> I had to take the Nacti test today
21:22:54 <Gizmokid2005> while I like that test, they didn't test the most important part of any antivirus :(
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21:23:51 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: I found an interesting FP problem, and I don't know who to report it to, McAfee has no problem scanning ClamWin, but when ClamWin is scanning ITSELF, McAfee has a problem with a temp file created by ClamWin, and it only happens when CW scanns 2 of it's own files :O
21:24:52 <Oni-Wii> lol.
21:24:59 <TimClark> How do you tell an AV vendor that there program has no problem with another program, unless that program scans itself :O
21:25:19 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: just like that....it's the problem of the company that gives the false positive
21:25:40 <TimClark> An of course the files created by Clam during the scan are temp files and change
21:26:30 <Oni-Wii> argh! Hating the Wii Internet D:
21:26:53 <TimClark> and are almost impossible to capture, it took me 25 minutes to track down the 2 files triggering the response, but McAfee finds those files CLEAN when it scans them :O
21:27:36 <TimClark> So what in the name of HE double toothpicks would I submit ??!!
21:28:53 <Oni-Wii> a lolcats pic? jk :p
21:29:12 <TimClark> working here oni
21:30:15 <TimClark> I'm guessing that Clam unpacks those files in a way that McAfee finds suspicious, even though it has no problems with the original files :O
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21:30:29 <Oni-Wii> I would just sumbit a falsepositive and tell the story.
21:30:46 <TimClark> But what file would I submit ?
21:31:08 <Oni-Wii> oof. good point...
21:31:25 <TimClark> An if you read the story again, it is rather confusing :(
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21:31:52 <Oni-Wii> any idea where the "Suspicious" files come from?
21:32:08 <JohnTHaller> TimClark: Do you have 'heuristics' enabled?
21:33:14 <TimClark> of course, but i can retry the test with it turned off
21:33:55 <JohnTHaller> Please do. As a general rule, heuristics = FAIL. In all AV products.
21:34:00 <TimClark> If i did not make it clear, this is in no way hurting CWP by the way
21:34:25 <Oni-Wii> heuristics?
21:34:45 <TimClark> Oh, I like heuristics, I get very few FPs with it, and "I" make the decisions, Not my AV :P
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21:37:57 <TimClark> rerunning tests heuristics off
21:38:56 <JohnTHaller> Those AV comparison awards seem pretty arbitray. They awarded ADVANCED+ to two products which detect less than 90% of script malware
21:39:41 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: on top of that, they don't compare any overhead that the products use on the host...which is the major issue in any AV
21:40:10 <TimClark> Nope, Herristics OFF, same result :( I was hoping you were right JohnTHaller
21:41:40 <JohnTHaller> I kinda hate Mcafee. They used to be wonderful years ago. But now they're basically Norton Part 2 :-(
21:41:52 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: these were the on demand full systems scans, the real time is another report, you really should not be doing anything else during a full scan, so the over head is not so important
21:42:35 <TimClark> Have used McAfee for years, since Win3.11, and really have never had a problem with it
21:42:46 <JohnTHaller> And Mcafee only detects 95% of Windows viruses when your net connection is down. WTF?
21:43:20 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, back then they were great. I worked at Aetna who was their first big client. They were lean and technically advanced. Now they're another lumbering 'suite' of bloat.
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21:44:36 <Bensawsome> JohnTHaller i know what you mean.... i have comast so we get mcafee for all our computers for free. and my mom insists on using it even though it hasnt protected against anything in the 3 times my parents computer has been affected :(
21:44:55 <Bensawsome> *comcast
21:45:01 <TimClark> Well, it works for me, always has, and I use Avast Portable and CWP as my backup/seconday checkers
21:46:03 <TimClark> What sites are YOUR parents going to Bensawsome :O ;) jk
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21:46:08 <Bensawsome> lol
21:46:48 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: did you find the pic for KVIrc?
21:47:50 <TimClark> And to tell the truth, I get more FPs from CW then I do from the other 2 :( , but that's ok, I still love CW and understand that sometimes it's a little cutting edge :)
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21:50:36 <Bensawsome> anywho thats my 2 cents :P back to my homework.....
21:51:11 <TimClark> Have fun Bensawsome , get good grades
21:51:13 <gluxon> Hey, anybody have some experience with installing Windows 7 Beta?
21:51:29 * SergentSiler does
21:51:54 <gluxon> Okay, pm? :D
21:52:06 <ptmb> I installed it on a VM (but then letted it expire and deleted it out of lazyneess and need for hard drive space :P )
21:52:17 <gluxon> lol
21:52:25 <gluxon> I've got Windows 2008 on a DVD :P
21:52:27 <SergentSiler> gluxon, accept the invite
21:52:30 <gluxon> I did.
21:52:33 <ptmb> :P
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22:23:08 <Oni-Neoxes> Back everyone :D
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22:36:05 <Gizmokid2005> hello onestoploser
22:36:07 <Gizmokid2005> night MaienM|Sleep
22:36:23 <onestoploser> Hi Gizmokid2005
22:36:25 <onestoploser> :D
22:37:24 <sar3th|linux> gotta go now...l8tr guys
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23:05:42 <OliverK> cheerio chaps :D
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23:06:30 <Roamer> hi gluxon
23:06:42 <daBomb69> Hi Roamer, and OliverK, and gluxon
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23:07:10 <Roamer> daBomb69: you scared him!
23:07:37 * daBomb69 gasps
23:08:03 <Roamer> :P
23:12:52 <OliverK> bummer, maien's asleep
23:12:58 <OliverK> he'll wake up later though :D
23:13:20 <Bensawsome> i lol'd
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23:19:13 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Everyone :D
23:21:35 <OliverK> howdy
23:22:44 <Oni-Neoxes> Where is ZachThibeau?
23:27:10 <OliverK> making baon :D
23:27:14 <OliverK> bacon*
23:27:19 * daBomb69 <3 bacon
23:27:36 <Oni-Neoxes> o:
23:27:45 <Oni-Neoxes> http://lifehacker.com/5182738/hive-five-winner-for-best-web-browser-firefox
23:29:24 <Oni-Neoxes> http://lifehacker.com/5181985/jetbytes-transfers-files-directly-via-the-web
23:29:26 <Oni-Neoxes> That rules
23:29:59 <OliverK> TimClark: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/4jr3Aej84PE/article.pl
23:30:39 <TimClark> care to tell me what that is OliverK :P
23:30:54 <OliverK> its a flash vunerabilerity scanner from hp. Sorry
23:31:03 <OliverK> well, its a short article about it
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23:33:42 <daBomb69> Hi Nathan9222
23:33:48 <Nathan9222> hi
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23:37:10 <TimClark> OliverK: :( Register now to download your FREE copy of HP SWFScan and start securing your Flash applications now!
23:37:14 <Oni-Neoxes> So anything new in the world of PA?
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23:38:44 <OliverK> TimClark: bummer.
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23:47:10 <TimClark> OliverK: it's a 5MB .msi file :O
23:47:33 <OliverK> gorsh
23:47:35 <TimClark> actually closer to 5.5
23:47:45 <OliverK> TimClark: i haven't tried it, would you like me to?
23:47:56 <TimClark> I don't think it's portable to say the least
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23:48:10 <TimClark> OliverK: sure, give me feed back
23:48:18 <OliverK> alrgiht, I'll have to try that
23:48:23 <TimClark> I assume you trust HP :P
23:48:35 * OliverK is coding for the new GTK update for Geany
23:48:39 <OliverK> TimClark: actually, I hate HP
23:48:47 <OliverK> warranty issues and a computer with issues
23:48:54 <OliverK> and a older HP without :D
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23:50:24 * Mir goes and throws a wrench in support and then runs away
23:50:52 <TimClark> yes, but I don't think they will harm you :)
23:51:07 <TimClark> Mir: if it was real support you'd regret that :P
23:51:20 <Mir> :p
23:51:27 <Mir> i checked to make sure
23:53:36 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
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23:56:27 <daBomb69> Roamer!
23:56:38 <OliverK> test
23:57:24 <Roamer> daBomb69! :P
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23:57:56 <Bensawsome> o_0
23:57:59 <Oni-Neoxes> Siler is mad
23:58:08 <Bensawsome> ya he is...
23:58:16 <Oni-Neoxes> It's becaise he can't get 5 seconds to himself
23:58:18 <Bensawsome> im in the channel he is mad at ._.
23:58:20 <Oni-Neoxes> boo-hoo
23:58:24 <gluxon> ...
23:58:27 <gluxon> Holly
23:58:31 <daBomb69> Oni-Neoxes: 5 min, not 5 sec
23:58:37 <gluxon> I wonder what other public channels he was in.
23:58:40 <Oni-Neoxes> whatever
23:58:40 <Bensawsome> brb
23:58:56 <Oni-Neoxes> he already banned me from 2 channels
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