IRC Log from 2009-03-25

00:01:52 <TimClark> Guys, /quit/part messages like that will not be allowed :/
00:02:23 <OliverK> not oni's, silers. And the ops will inform him
00:02:40 <gluxon> Or what about just saying swears on the channel?
00:02:55 <TimClark> gluxon: you know you can't
00:03:05 <OliverK> gluxon: swears should be kept out as well
00:03:09 <OliverK> outside of crap, etc.
00:03:12 <gluxon> ??? I've seen you do it...
00:03:27 <OliverK> the one's you can't say on network TV, don't use those
00:03:33 <Roamer> when he was pissed, but that was in the -ot
00:04:01 <OliverK> when I'm trying to avoid doing now. Swearing doesn't really help anyone
00:04:21 <TimClark> guys, this does not need to be continued here, you guys know what's right
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00:06:09 <TimClark> OliverK: has that file coming
00:06:15 <TimClark> how's *
00:06:37 <OliverK> haven't gotten it yet. I'm working on something right now. I'll go get it, I think I got distracted or something . . . . .
00:06:59 <TimClark> ok
00:08:12 * OliverK registered as fakey mcfakerson working for fuaksville Limited
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00:16:15 <OliverK> TimClark: that swf scanner works pretty nice. It'll take and decompile it to source, then scan it for vunerabilities specific to flash
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00:18:19 <OliverK> yeah, that swfscanner is really nice
00:20:02 <TimClark> I guess I would like to know if it can beused after extracting with Universal Extractor or something like that, or does it need to be installed
00:20:43 <OliverK> that I don't know
00:21:05 <OliverK> I've never had luck busting .msi files. I'm probably using the wrong tools :D
00:21:24 <OliverK> but it probably could. I didn't see anything flash by about reg entries or drivers
00:24:02 <TimClark> Universal Extractor is actually pretty good with .msi files
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00:44:34 <MaienM|Sleep> OliverK: you needed me?
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00:45:16 <OliverK> MaienM|Sleep: well, I was wondering if tehre was a way I could get a copy of you IRC bot. I'm looking to make a a IRC, and was hoping to find a good skeleton somewhere
00:45:37 <MaienM|Sleep> well tbh I kinda lost the source -_-
00:45:42 <OliverK> heh
00:45:44 <Roamer> OliverK: what about phenny?
00:45:53 <Roamer> or chainsaw
00:45:54 <MaienM|Sleep> I'm sure I have it somewhere, just don't know where -_-
00:45:55 <OliverK> Roamer: for Geany, has to be C++ based
00:45:58 <OliverK> ah
00:46:02 <OliverK> Ctrl F!
00:46:05 <Roamer> ah.
00:46:31 <Roamer> what did you lose? :P
00:46:36 <MaienM|Sleep> OliverK: if I find it, I'll give it to you, alright? ;)
00:46:43 <OliverK> k, thanks
00:47:09 <OliverK> Roamer: been known to search for jpegs or bmps and then scroll through them to find the file :D
00:47:33 <Roamer> lol
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01:01:55 <Roamer> hi AppGuy
01:02:09 <Roamer> D:
01:02:25 <Roamer> I scared him! :'(
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01:04:40 <Roamer> AppGuy: You return!
01:05:01 <AppGuy> Yes, I have returned.
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01:05:16 <daBomb69> AppGuy!!
01:05:34 <AppGuy> daBomb69!!
01:05:36 <Roamer> hi ZachThibeau!
01:05:51 <ZachThibeau> howdy Roamer
01:06:10 <daBomb69> How are you today AppGuy?
01:06:40 <AppGuy> I am very good, how are you?
01:06:43 <KevinPorter> Hi there ZachThibeau. :)
01:06:45 <daBomb69> Good
01:06:53 <ZachThibeau> if I don't respond thats because I'm reading logs and working on an update for DVDStylerPortable :)
01:06:57 <ZachThibeau> howdy KevinPorter
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01:08:41 <daBomb69> Hi p
01:08:49 <daBomb69> *powerjuce
01:08:57 <powerjuce> hey daBomb69
01:08:59 <ZachThibeau> howdy powerjuce
01:09:07 <powerjuce> hey ZachThibeau
01:09:12 <powerjuce> hows everything going
01:09:21 <ZachThibeau> for some reason powerjuce when I think of your nickname it reminds me of powder juice XD
01:09:37 <ZachThibeau> it's been awhile since I had some so thats maybe why I'm thinking like that :/
01:09:42 <daBomb69> it reminds me of Kool-Aid
01:09:58 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: other than that I put out an update on NSISPortable :)
01:10:06 <ZachThibeau> and now working on DVDStyler :D
01:10:21 <powerjuce> i will try and get a lot of tests up
01:10:29 <ZachThibeau> awesome :)
01:10:54 <ZachThibeau> BartS didn't say anything wrong with my NSISPortable release so it must be good :D
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01:11:04 <ZachThibeau> afternoon Nathan9222
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01:11:23 <ZachThibeau> Salutations DaveDixonII :)
01:11:23 <Nathan9222> hola senor zach
01:11:35 <daBomb69> Hi DaveDixonII
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01:12:02 <DaveDixonII> Hello to all. :)
01:12:19 <Nathan9222> Guys good news, I finally found a way that allows my alarm app to have recurring alarms. Now im extremely close to getting this done just waiting for Taffin to come back to help me fix a bug that he would probably know how to fix.
01:12:22 <OliverK> howdy senor
01:12:30 <Nathan9222> sup
01:13:20 <Nathan9222> Anyways, Gonna release a new build version of my Alarm App so check it out and let me know what you think
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01:13:30 <TimClark> powerjuce: did you see this: "ekiga" http://portableapps.com/node/17311#comment-115273
01:14:14 <powerjuce> TimClark: i looked at it
01:14:23 <powerjuce> and i remember there being some problems with it
01:14:29 <powerjuce> i think i talked to ryan
01:14:33 <powerjuce> lemme look at it again
01:14:37 <powerjuce> thanks for the heads
01:14:42 <TimClark> then my job is done :)
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01:29:27 <Nathan9222> I just released AIOA's new build release that has new features that many should find useful, please check out. :P
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01:36:56 <JacobMastel> Will do Nathan9222
01:38:27 <Nathan9222> k thanks
01:39:05 <powerjuce> hey guys check this site out
01:39:08 <powerjuce> mixtape.me
01:43:49 <JacobMastel> Nathan9222: may I make a suggestion?
01:44:00 <Nathan9222> yeah
01:44:49 <JacobMastel> K. Sweet, okay first is the icon needs a little bit of work on the 16x size. I could probably fix that, the second would be to make a option within File, and the tray, to cancel all alarms
01:46:45 <Nathan9222> K all those u mentioned can be done, Ill work on some code right now to get those implemented. Oh and about the icon, idk I might change it cause I got it from a site horusofoz listed and i dont know if it would be legal to include their icons in my program
01:47:33 <Nathan9222> Ill probably post something in its post if anyone would want to create an icon for it. Maybe if John lets us it could be like the PAP tray icon that looks like a clock?
01:48:15 <JacobMastel> Yeah that would be cool.
01:48:24 <JacobMastel> I'm good enough to edit stuff but not really to create it from scratch
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01:48:37 <JacobMastel> The clock idea is simple enough though...the logo then a few hands.
01:49:18 <Nathan9222> Yup it shouldnt be too hard to do im assuming but it would all be up to John if he lets us use his icon.
01:50:31 <JacobMastel> I think it's fine to do so just do it and then if he doesn't like it change it.... :-\
01:50:34 <JacobMastel> :P
01:51:37 <Nathan9222> haha
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01:54:07 <OliverK> who knows PHP?
01:54:15 <OliverK> or at least enough to say my code is *********
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01:55:58 <OliverK> anybody?
01:56:00 <OliverK> please :(?
01:56:20 <JacobMastel> Sorry OliverK not me
01:56:27 <OliverK> okay
01:56:46 * OliverK will just have to post it and hope that the second most iportant part works.
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02:01:21 <daBomb69> Hi ChrisMorgan
02:01:47 <ChrisMorgan> Hi daBomb69
02:01:57 <daBomb69> How are you today?
02:02:10 <ChrisMorgan> So, still no comment about my Code::Blocks Portable... :-(
02:02:12 <ChrisMorgan> fine
02:02:14 <ChrisMorgan> other than that :P
02:03:09 <Roamer> ChrisMorgan: i'll get it tomorrow
02:03:14 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: I know lots of PHP
02:03:16 <Roamer> and test away!
02:03:22 <ChrisMorgan> Roamer: thanks :-)
02:03:34 <OliverK> ChrisMorgan: would you care to look at a script for me?
02:03:35 <Roamer> no prob
02:03:48 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: should be able to do it
02:04:10 <OliverK> http://oliverkrystal.pastebin.com/m49aa0717
02:04:18 <OliverK> 'tis ugly, I know
02:04:21 <ChrisMorgan> In return you must test Code::Blocks Portable 8.02 Development Test 2 for me ;-) (Don't take me seriously, please, no one else does :P)
02:04:31 <OliverK> ChrisMorgan: I shall download an run it
02:04:45 <OliverK> but I shall not test it as I don't know what to do with it
02:05:03 <OliverK> here's the error
02:05:04 <OliverK> http://www.simplexitynetwork.com/mr.soup12/portableapps/geany/geany.php
02:05:07 <ChrisMorgan> Yeouch, line 24 T_SYNTAX error ;-)
02:05:23 <ChrisMorgan> Should be header("Location: http://www.simplexitynetwork.com/mr.soup12/portableapps/geany/Geany_Portable_0.16.0_Development_Test_2.paf.exe");
02:05:31 <ChrisMorgan> space instead of ""
02:05:38 <OliverK> thanks
02:06:12 <ChrisMorgan> OK, noticed that before I even looked at the link to the PHP-generated error you gave me...
02:06:51 <OliverK> sweet. Yeah I should have guessed. I'm way to lazy I guess :(
02:07:03 <OliverK> do you think it will increment the site counter for me?
02:07:05 <ChrisMorgan> soo... why the HTML content at all if you redirect unconditionally?
02:07:13 <ChrisMorgan> No, not a chance if it's a content-based one
02:07:37 <ChrisMorgan> If you want that, use the (horrible) SF technique - put the redirect in the body onload attribute.
02:08:07 <ChrisMorgan> <body onload="window.location.href='http://www.simplexitynetwork.com/mr.soup12/portableapps/geany/Geany_Portable_0.16.0_Development_Test_2.paf.exe'">
02:08:08 <OliverK> that's what I want.
02:08:14 <OliverK> sweet, thanks
02:08:19 <ChrisMorgan> No PHP needed at all.
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02:08:46 <ChrisMorgan> The Location header will preclude all content, and will make it so that it can't load any of the page content.
02:09:23 <TimClark> I'm with roamer :P , this is way to geeky for me :O later dudes
02:09:25 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... does Site Meter say to put the code in like that?
02:09:31 <ChrisMorgan> bye TimClark :-)
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02:10:03 <ChrisMorgan> It won't work. The noscript bit should be in the page body
02:10:34 <ChrisMorgan> <noscript> is only allowed inside the body, not the head
02:12:20 <ChrisMorgan> May be back later
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02:16:16 <DaveDixonII> http://pastebin.com/d599e506b
02:17:21 <OliverK> have fun :D
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02:17:52 <DaveDixonII> :P
02:25:09 * ZachThibeau is going to revive ZSNESPortable :D
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02:55:41 <daBomb69> g'night ya'll
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03:48:15 <JacobMastel> .seen JohnTHaller
03:48:15 <GizmoBot> JacobMastel: I last saw johnthaller at 2009-03-24 21:45:09 UTC on #portableapps
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05:03:55 <ChrisMorgan> palogbot: uri
05:03:55 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-03-25#T05-03-55
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05:04:10 <ChrisMorgan> ChrisMorgan is filling in for pabot ;-)
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07:02:45 <rmccue> Anyone here know how to use logarithms?
07:04:56 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: me, but I'm gone for tea now
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07:05:05 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan|away: Grr!
07:05:11 <rmccue> Anyone else?
07:05:31 <TaffinFoxcroft> .wik logarithms
07:05:33 <GizmoBot> "In mathematics, the logarithm of a number to a given base is the power or exponent to which the base must be raised in order to produce the number." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithms
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07:33:26 <TaffinFoxcroft> wb BjornH
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07:38:36 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: if you return pabot I may help you ;-)
07:38:45 * ChrisMorgan <3 http://www.chromeexperiments.com/hosted/gravity/index.html
07:39:22 <ChrisMorgan> We need to make a PortableApps.com version of it ;-)
07:39:41 <ChrisMorgan> It should be just stick the box2d class onto everything and include the script file
07:40:41 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: I'll bring pabot back if you help me :P
07:40:56 <ChrisMorgan> OK, let's move to PM: you initiate
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07:46:48 <MaienM|Sleep> wow, thats been a while......
07:47:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> omg, pabot has risen from the ashes of gizmobot!
07:47:46 <TaffinFoxcroft> maybe he shound be called PheonixBot...
07:48:04 <rmccue> ...
07:49:24 <ChrisMorgan> pAbot - where's the A gone to in PheonixBot?
07:49:29 <ChrisMorgan> btw, spell it phoenix
07:51:19 <ChrisMorgan> Now I can stop filling in for pabot when I enter.
07:51:32 <ChrisMorgan> "ChrisMorgan is filling in for pabot" has been the main one I used :P
07:51:50 <TaffinFoxcroft> .def TaffinFoxcroft
07:51:51 <pabot> TaffinFoxcroft: I have no idea who or what TaffinFoxcroft is.
07:51:58 <ChrisMorgan> .def ChrisMorgan
07:51:59 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
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07:53:18 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
07:53:19 <ChrisMorgan> ChrisMorgan is not filling in for pabot
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08:16:23 <riZkiT> Where can i write a notice that the portable apps index page is broken ... !?
08:16:49 <rmccue> How so?
08:16:52 <MaienM|Sleep> what is broken about it riZkiT, and what browser are you using?
08:17:52 <riZkiT> ff3, op9, ie6 ...
08:18:01 <riZkiT> seems the css tyles are not active
08:18:04 <rmccue> Looks fine to me.
08:18:16 <MaienM|Sleep> no problems here either
08:18:24 <riZkiT> only at portableapps.com ... on all subsites it looks okay
08:18:33 <riZkiT> try to clear your cache maybe =)
08:18:37 <rmccue> Just did.
08:18:41 <riZkiT> hum
08:18:54 <riZkiT> strange that 3 browsers show it broken the same way
08:23:42 <rmccue> Yes, berry weird.
08:23:52 <rmccue> Manything else showing different?
08:23:54 <MaienM|Sleep> strange indeed, only guess I have is that something is wrong with your DNS and thus your browsers cannot load the css
08:24:04 <rmccue> Like text, 4 example? :P
08:24:12 <rmccue> MaienM|Sleep: I would guess that too.
08:24:45 <riZkiT> ... i have the solution .. it was the commodo firewall ... dont know why it blocked that
08:24:52 <rmccue> Ah.
08:25:09 <riZkiT> but only on the index page
08:25:27 <riZkiT> well whatever ..
08:25:42 <riZkiT> at least i had someone i could ask
08:26:12 <riZkiT> btw: is there some news about v2.0 of portable apps?
08:26:23 <rmccue> Soon-ish.
08:26:28 <riZkiT> kk
08:26:53 <riZkiT> heard of it a month ago when i switched from pidgin u3 to pidgin portable
08:42:54 <upnPAD> whats v2 rmccue?
08:42:58 <upnPAD> oh
08:43:00 <upnPAD> dya mean the menu
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09:43:00 <Guest28146> Hi I just want to say. I told a couple people about PortableApps.com Menu last night. And they all got nuts about it.
09:46:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> cool :D
09:49:38 <Guest28146> They just LOVE it. And some of them did use U3.
09:50:14 <TaffinFoxcroft> U3 had a good concept behind it, it just wasn't implemented well.
09:51:50 <Guest28146> I am hope You dont mind me making promo for PortableApps.com Menu to my friends and those I dont a meet
09:52:18 <Guest28146> I am hoping
09:52:40 <Guest28146> I do meet
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09:53:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> there was an ad campaign by some users on the forums before, a youtube search for PortableApps.com Ad should bring them up :P
09:55:38 <riZkiT> i included portable apps menu in u3 menu and with autostart after u3 login ... works like a charm
09:56:24 <riZkiT> made with this u3 shortcut maker or so
09:56:53 <TaffinFoxcroft> sweet. I don't actually have a U3 drive, but you can do some cool things with them
09:57:54 <Guest28146> So U3 is still alive
10:00:23 <TaffinFoxcroft> yes, but its dying, soon to be replaced by a joint venture between the U3 makers and microsoft
10:01:08 <riZkiT> yes ... and there is an "U3Helper" from a friend of mine .. which makes it more powerful and compatible with different software
10:02:03 <riZkiT> TaffinFoxcroft: well i've heard of a concept named Startkey .. from Microsoft but all news about it refer to march 2008
10:02:20 <Guest28146> My Comercials on youtbe for PortableApps.com
10:02:32 <Guest28146> I am gonna go now have a nice day
10:02:38 <Guest28146> Many
10:02:39 <TaffinFoxcroft> bye
10:02:41 <Guest28146> Not my
10:02:50 <riZkiT> ^^
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10:08:44 <pabot> onestoploser is teh curry master and can't get enough PortableApps.com
10:08:50 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi onestoploser
10:10:17 <TaffinFoxcroft> anyone want to test out DMFFP in AHK form?
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11:24:40 <Horusofoz> Hi all :)
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11:44:20 <Horusofoz> Gizmokid2005|AFK: How's goes it with KvIRC?
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11:47:03 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable at PortableApps.com and is also developing musicplay3000 the open-source media player inspired by foobar2000
11:47:53 <Horusofoz> Hey Zach
11:48:10 <ZachThibeau> howdy Horusofoz
11:49:21 <Horusofoz> Can anyone recommend a good portable torrent downloader
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11:54:18 <pabot> MaienM is developing The Mana World Portable, and would like people to test it: http://www.portableapps.com/node/18024
12:05:03 <Horusofoz> hi MainM - I'm downloading mana now to test - any tips before I start?
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12:06:06 <MaienM> hmm, not really, what kind of tips are you thinking of?
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12:06:41 <pabot> Wes|IT is Wesley aka windows[] || Wes irc Operator || Php Master || Suse n00b || UnrealIRCD Portable Dev || Portableapp's Support ||
12:06:50 <Wes|IT> well
12:07:01 <Wes|IT> http://twitter.com/wescooldude3 <<< last six updates
12:07:49 <Horusofoz> Don't know - how to play might start
12:08:12 <Horusofoz> I'll trial and post tomorrow
12:08:39 <MaienM> I'd say look at this: http://wiki.themanaworld.org/index.php/Getting_started
12:08:52 <MaienM> it contains a few usefull tips
12:09:35 <Horusofoz> First thing is do all the auto updates go into a definite Portable folder or to the host pc?
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12:10:01 <MaienM> the auto updates stay on the usb drive
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12:10:24 <Horusofoz> Cool - just wanted to make sure :)
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12:11:02 <DoctorDude> Hi I have a idea for a feature
12:11:22 <DoctorDude> Can I tell about it
12:11:48 <ZachThibeau> sure but chances are it maybe already thought of
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12:14:41 <ZachThibeau> DoctorDude: are you going to tell us?
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12:15:10 <DoctorDude> Yes but it is a lot to write down
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12:17:50 <Horusofoz> &Main - how to talk to people and get some clothes?
12:18:42 <MaienM> Horusofoz: just press enter to start to talk, you can get some clothes by buying them or by killing monsters
12:24:11 <DoctorDude> Alright I thinking about that mojopac. And how it works. The Virtual destop feature. And I was thinking if it would be cool to add only that feature to PortableApps.com Menu. When somebody plugs in USB Flash Drive. And the Windows pops up and you start PortableApps.com Menu. And then new screem comes up and PortableApps.com Menu asking start the Menu or the Virtual Destop Menu. And all the apps are allready online
12:26:06 <DoctorDude> Good or Bad idea?
12:27:24 <DoctorDude> So people dont have to just it if they dont wante
12:27:30 <DoctorDude> to
12:27:43 <MaienM> it would be very complicated
12:27:55 <MaienM> and past the purpose of the PAM
12:28:21 <ZachThibeau> and it's not PAM or PortableApps.com Menu it's now called PortableApps.com Platform
12:28:22 <ZachThibeau> ;)
12:28:26 <ZachThibeau> fust a FYI :)
12:28:30 <ZachThibeau> **Just
12:28:33 <MaienM> afaik, mojopac is not open source, so it would have to be written from scratch
12:28:37 <MaienM> *PAP then ;)
12:29:34 <DoctorDude> Alright. I was just being helpfull
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12:32:47 <ZachThibeau> I will say this DoctorDude ideas start from somewhere and it was a good shot :)
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12:37:07 <daws> Hi there, I need help a bit...after reinstalling of whole comp, I tried as well to actualize my Thunderbird portable to newest version. All my emails are OK, just in informations of thunderbird header is a bit chaos... There are info like X-Acount-Key, X-UIDL,, X-Mozilla-Status etc...any advice?
12:37:10 <DoctorDude> In other words. better luch next time
12:37:17 <DoctorDude> luck
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12:38:02 <ZachThibeau> daws: did you try to upgrade through the portableapps.com installer or by the built in updater in thunderbird?
12:44:46 <daws> i downloaded newest version of tb portable and installed over my old (I read somewhere that it should work).
12:45:33 <ZachThibeau> thats correct it should of worked, tell me what you did during the installation of ThunderbirdPortable
12:58:35 <daws> I have just reinstalled it by new version - I selected the path to my present instalation.
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13:04:28 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
13:05:15 <ZachThibeau> howdy PatrickPatience
13:05:27 <PatrickPatience> Hey.
13:05:35 <ZachThibeau> guess what
13:05:48 <PatrickPatience> So funny. We're all logging onto our PC's in comm. tech. and nobody can get logged in except one kid.
13:06:02 <PatrickPatience> The teacher's like, "Okay, Ryan... here's what we're gonna do"
13:06:20 <ZachThibeau> well thats funny :P but thats not what I was going to say :P
13:06:24 <PatrickPatience> "You're gonna use your computer from 8:45 until 8:50 and then we're gonna rotate.
13:06:44 <ZachThibeau> I'm going to be moving to Kingston Ontario this year
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13:09:06 <pabot> sar3th is helping whenever he can
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13:33:28 <Wes|IT> @ZachThibeau http://twitter.com/wescooldude3 << My life Sucks
13:33:58 <ZachThibeau> Wes|IT: you already mentioned your twitter please don't do this in the main channel
13:34:11 <Wes|IT> oh
13:34:17 <ZachThibeau> something of this is more appropriate in -ot ;)
13:34:21 <Wes|IT> i did not see that u were on
13:34:25 <Wes|IT> k :)
13:34:45 <Wes|IT> i wanted to let everyone see it
13:34:57 <Wes|IT> so they will know what happened to me when i dissapear
13:35:02 <Wes|IT> lol
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13:57:56 <ZachThibeau> yay I found a fix for DVDStylerPortable :D
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14:17:31 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
14:17:35 <JohnTHaller> hola
14:17:46 <sar3th|studying> welcome JohnTHaller!
14:18:10 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
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14:23:03 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable at PortableApps.com and is also developing musicplay3000 the open-source media player inspired by foobar2000
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14:24:55 <pabot> JacobMastel is hopping the other rt guys will start to test other apps and add them to the development status page....http://portableapps.com/development/test/status
14:25:12 <JacobMastel> pabot is finally back!
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14:25:58 <sar3th|studying> ya
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15:03:26 <Fireweb> hi guys
15:03:32 <sar3th|studying> hi Fireweb
15:04:26 <Fireweb> is there a portable paint.net?
15:04:30 <ZachThibeau> nope
15:04:39 <ZachThibeau> because it uses .net which isn't on every computer
15:04:41 <sar3th|studying> you can use gimp portable instead
15:04:53 <JohnTHaller> paint.net uses .net. and paint.net isn't fully open source
15:05:17 <ZachThibeau> here is an example of what gimp can do :P http://zachthibeau.com/image/image/iamawesome.jpg
15:05:47 <Fireweb> lol, that's an example of that nasa finds everyday :)
15:06:24 <Fireweb> thanks guys, i'll give gimp a week
15:06:33 <ZachThibeau> it just shows gimp can be very useful in creating pretty advanced images or create the simplist images :)
15:09:09 <Fireweb> simplicity rocks
15:09:33 <Fireweb> i'm just worried that gimp can just waste my time trying to learn it
15:09:52 <ZachThibeau> it's has a pretty straight forward interface :)
15:12:21 <riZkiT> im using gimp here since some weeks, i have to ... but i miss photoshop ...
15:12:36 <riZkiT> or when i have to choose i still prefer ps
15:13:39 <riZkiT> im too used to ps ... when u start with gimp i can be productive, maybe
15:13:40 <JohnTHaller> if you like photoshop's organization of tools... this can help a little: http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/gimp_portable/photoshop_layout
15:14:35 <riZkiT> oh a window mode ... ever wondered if i can active that
15:14:43 <riZkiT> activate
15:14:44 <Fireweb> com'on, riZkiT didn't you see the price tag??
15:15:11 <JohnTHaller> it has a few bugs... but the window mode is handy, too. the thing I linked to reconfigures the toolboxes on the right to approximate adobe photoshop cs2
15:15:26 <JohnTHaller> th BG window is here: http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/gimp_portable/background_window
15:16:01 <riZkiT> since 2-3 years i try to use free software and dont use p2p for that ... but gimp is ....
15:16:28 <sar3th|studying> a great replacement for photoshop, thank you
15:17:04 <riZkiT> i will try that too ... until i get ps here from my boss ;-)
15:21:18 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: I'm finally fixed a bug in the DVDStylerPortable Launcher and updated the internal version to 1.7.2, do I release it as a revision or another pre-release and also the splash screen will need updating since the logo is now new
15:23:23 <JohnTHaller> send me the logo. it'll be 1.7.2 pr 1
15:23:49 <ZachThibeau> ok sounds good to me
15:24:55 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: http://zachthibeau.com/image/image/dvdstyler.png
15:25:43 <ZachThibeau> and the one from the site (both images made by ZachHudock) http://dvdstyler.de/images/stories/logo.png
15:25:50 <Fireweb> ZachThibeau: nice that made by gimp?
15:26:12 <ZachThibeau> Fireweb: not by me by another Zach from portableapps.com ;)
15:26:35 <Fireweb> do you know how he did it?
15:26:53 <Fireweb> if gimp then i might give it a try
15:27:08 <ZachThibeau> and afaik he used some icons from the same Icon set John used on portableapps.com
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15:27:46 <pabot> OliverK is liking his days off
15:28:09 <ZachThibeau> sar3th|studying: :D http://pagamesclan.com/
15:28:14 <ZachThibeau> oops wrong channel XD
15:28:28 <ZachThibeau> *sigh* I need some more coffee
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15:32:20 <KookyMan`> John, are you here this morning?
15:34:22 <KookyMan`> JohnTHaller - I am logged in from the school this morning, the PAF applications are now missing as usual. I renamed AppInfo for one of my applications, and the icon did appear after a refresh. I reverted the namechange, and it dissapeared on refresh.
15:34:50 <JohnTHaller> Hi]
15:35:10 <JohnTHaller> Ok, that's about what we expected. Now to figure out why it's doing that.
15:35:41 <KookyMan`> I'm on 120DPI, 1400x900x32b
15:36:06 <riZkiT> short question back to gimp: how can i switch to that window mode!?
15:36:13 <riZkiT> plugin installed
15:36:21 <JohnTHaller> riZkiT: it's an add-on, it should happen automatically
15:36:38 <riZkiT> hmmm it doesnt =/ ... installed the photoshop plugin
15:36:41 <JohnTHaller> you had to have installed the BG window plugin add-on with GIMP closed. it's separate frmo the photoshop layout
15:36:59 <riZkiT> ah! okay thats it .. i think
15:36:59 <JohnTHaller> re-read. there are two different addons
15:37:28 <riZkiT> screenshot looked like photoshop does that background too
15:38:35 <JohnTHaller> "The screenshot also shows the GIMP Portable Background Window add-on which combines GIMP into a single window."
15:39:16 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: Why are you here twice and how many apps do you have installed?
15:39:43 <KookyMan`> JohnTHaller - Also, I just tried changing the desktop icon size to see if that made any difference, no. Though I did notice if i changed to 'Large Fonts' in PAP, it basically kept the allocated space the same, and doubled the font size resulting in only seeing the top half of the text.
15:39:54 <riZkiT> alright works now
15:39:56 <KookyMan`> JohnTHaller - KookyMan is my home PC still logged in, I'm on java client from the school here.
15:40:10 <JohnTHaller> ok
15:40:24 <JohnTHaller> just annoying since now I have to manually type out your whole name
15:40:50 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: large fonts is as expected
15:40:58 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: How many apps do you have?
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15:41:29 <KookyMan`> Just say KM if you want. 27 PAF format, 2 directories non PAF. IrfanView and a directory of 20 or so simple games (one file/per app).
15:41:46 <JohnTHaller> Ok. and what's your drive letter right now
15:41:55 <KookyMan`> F:
15:42:36 <JohnTHaller> Alright... hold please...
15:43:15 <KookyMan`> Small Fonts appear to be truncated too. Any letter with a drop (g, p, q, j) is missing everything below baseline.
15:43:45 <JohnTHaller> not worried about that at the moment
15:43:59 <JohnTHaller> 120dpi messes all that up. Windows plus 120dpi = fail
15:45:22 <KookyMan`> Ah Ok.
15:46:31 <JohnTHaller> Ok, close menu, browse to F:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com and rename PortableAppsPlatform.exe to PortableAppsPlatformOld.exe
15:47:02 <KookyMan`> Done.
15:48:11 <JohnTHaller> Place this in that directory: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/01/PortableAppsPlatform.exe
15:48:36 <JohnTHaller> and then run it and tell me what the messageboxes say as it is loading
15:49:49 <KookyMan`> I didn't get any message boxes.
15:50:13 <JohnTHaller> You have Firefox Porttable installed to F:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable and its AppInfo directory intact?
15:50:37 <KookyMan`> yes
15:52:05 <KookyMan`> Double checked, F:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\App\AppInfo is present, along with two files, an icon and ini.
15:52:12 <JohnTHaller> Ok, use this one instead: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/02/PortableAppsPlatform.exe
15:52:59 <KookyMan`> Again, no dialogs.
15:53:31 <KookyMan`> Would it make any difference that Portable Firefox is currently running?
15:54:29 <JohnTHaller> ah ok... hang on
15:54:55 <KookyMan`> I have 7Zip, Abiword also, not running
15:55:35 <JohnTHaller> One more time: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/03/PortableAppsPlatform.exe
15:56:39 <KookyMan`> Now I have dialogs
15:57:09 <KookyMan`> icon to load, ...\appicon0.ico
15:57:14 <KookyMan`> I think thats the problem.
15:57:25 <JohnTHaller> iognore that
15:57:27 <KookyMan`> index 0
15:57:30 <JohnTHaller> that's my own type in the dialog
15:57:40 <JohnTHaller> what's the index
15:58:10 <KookyMan`> 0
15:58:12 <JohnTHaller> (2nd dialog)
15:59:03 <JohnTHaller> 2nd dialog said 0?
15:59:06 <KookyMan`> Index: 0
15:59:17 <JohnTHaller> Ok, so it is thw ExtractIconEx that is failing.
15:59:22 <JohnTHaller> Ok, one more test...
16:00:31 <KookyMan`> Just say when its posted.
16:01:36 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/04/PortableAppsPlatform.exe
16:01:59 <JohnTHaller> Run it and let me know the dialogs (the first one I fixed the typo in, too)
16:02:35 <KookyMan`> No dialogs, all icons are appearing, however, there is a size issue. I'm only seeing the top, right quarter of the icons. May be a result of the 120DPI or may not.
16:02:56 <JohnTHaller> No dialogs appeared?
16:03:00 <KookyMan`> No.
16:03:44 <JohnTHaller> Oh ok, I had it set for my machine... hang on...
16:03:53 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/05/PortableAppsPlatform.exe
16:03:56 <KookyMan`> took another look, its the top LEFT quarter of the icons, and again only affecting the PAF applications. The others I see the entire icon.
16:04:43 <KookyMan`> Index: 2622971
16:04:46 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, that's what I thought.
16:05:09 <JohnTHaller> Ok... so it looks like on that machine I can get an index to the large icons in the file, but not the small ones... ok, I think this may work... hang on...
16:06:24 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/06/PortableAppsPlatform.exe
16:06:28 <JohnTHaller> Try that and let me know
16:06:57 <KookyMan`> No dialogs, No Change.
16:07:17 <JohnTHaller> Still only showing the upper left?
16:07:21 <KookyMan`> yes
16:08:09 <KookyMan`> Actually, it may appear that now the non-paf files are showing upper left only.
16:09:57 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/07/PortableAppsPlatform.exe
16:10:15 <KookyMan`> The non-PAFs appear to be missing a little on the left/bottom. -- Nevermind, thats the 120DPI playing tricks. I just checked it against 1.52 for those.
16:10:55 <KookyMan`> Test 7: No dialogs, no change to icons.
16:11:00 <JohnTHaller> well, damn
16:11:23 <JohnTHaller> Are you on Vista or XP, I forgot
16:11:33 <KookyMan`> Vista
16:11:53 <KookyMan`> Vista Business, SP1
16:12:09 <JohnTHaller> Ok. I think it may be Vista plus 120dpi causing the issue somehow with ExtractIconEx (Windows API call) not returning what it is supposed to.
16:12:27 <JohnTHaller> I just need to figure out a way around it. Hang on, lemme see if I can reproduce it here.
16:12:52 <KookyMan`> I just don't get why any admin would do such a non-standard setting.
16:13:24 <JohnTHaller> High res displays. Some laptops are preconfigured with it.
16:13:29 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I'll be back in 2 mins
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16:13:32 <KookyMan`> Ok
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16:15:10 <pa_8966> how i cam fuck
16:15:24 <pa_8966> and with who
16:15:38 <riZkiT> cam or can?
16:15:46 <pa_8966> can
16:15:59 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8966: I'm not sure what you are after, but you need to watch your language.
16:16:00 <riZkiT> go f*ck .. u know who =)
16:16:16 <pa_8966> is here a sweet girl with webcam
16:16:25 <riZkiT> he wants to get kciked ;-)
16:16:26 <OliverK> pa_8966: you are warranting a boot
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16:16:36 <OliverK> okease desist from this language
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16:16:55 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
16:16:56 <Gizmokid2005> he almost did, but beat me too it
16:17:01 <Gizmokid2005> welcome back JohnTHaller
16:17:15 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I can confirm it is a 120dpi issue
16:17:22 <Gizmokid2005> Anonym: if you continue with the language you were just using, you will get kicked.
16:17:37 <Anonym> what?
16:17:42 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: Thanks for helping me figure that out.
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16:18:41 <OliverK> Girl: why must you spam this room
16:18:42 <Gizmokid2005> Girl: if you continue this, I am banning you.
16:18:45 <OliverK> what do you hope to prove?
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16:19:28 <Girl> รถ
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16:20:08 <KookyMan`> Not a problem JohnTHaller
16:20:10 <watson> Nice
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16:20:27 <KookyMan`> Roflol.
16:20:33 <JohnTHaller> Ok, now that I have a handle on what's causing the issue, should be able to come up with some sort of solution.
16:21:28 <KookyMan`> Would the simple one be, if 120dpi just pull from the app?
16:22:36 <KookyMan`> I just checked and if I rename Appinfo, running 1.52, I get the proper icon. It's still missing 1/10th of the left and bottom, but thats a DPI issue alone.
16:23:15 <KookyMan`> Which also affects the fonts, etc... Ideally once you find a fix for the fonts, the icons will just fall into line.
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16:23:51 <JohnTHaller> It's not the fonts, it's the whole form layout. I'd have to shift everything around which gets hairy.
16:23:58 <JohnTHaller> 120dpi bug: http://portableapps.com/node/18692
16:31:24 <KookyMan`> Knowing the problem is half the battle.
16:32:34 <JohnTHaller> KookyMan: You around for a bit?
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16:33:45 <pabot> OliverK is liking his days off
16:34:26 <KookyMan`> JohnTHaller - No, I'm not. Class is over in 20 mins, and I have to work today.
16:34:46 <JohnTHaller> Ah ok
16:35:11 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: is the updated splash almost done?
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16:46:33 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: any chance you have a minute to take a look at my post in the "Apps ready for official release" thread? if you do, here is the link: http://portableapps.com/node/11772#comment-115112
16:48:27 <KookyMan`> Have a good day, all....
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17:06:04 <andreasma> hi
17:06:14 <OliverK> hey
17:06:20 <Gizmokid2005> hello andreasma
17:06:37 <andreasma> howdy Gizmokid2005 OliverK
17:08:06 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: You need to get the release team to verify it. Unfortunately, they haven't really been doing much.
17:08:45 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: I'm doing up a report on myself
17:08:58 <ZachThibeau> I'll post details the release team page
17:10:44 * OliverK is waiting for when the dev says its eready
17:10:47 <OliverK> MaienM: is it ready?
17:13:14 <MaienM> well I have no (known) bugs, it uses the latest installer version, enz..... yeah, as far as I know it is ready :)
17:14:22 <ZachThibeau> everything seems fine my end
17:14:57 <ZachThibeau> specs are up to date, full Format specifications for the Platform, I say it's ready
17:15:09 <ZachThibeau> I'll post it in the release team page now :)
17:15:21 <MaienM> ty :D
17:15:34 <ZachThibeau> ohh and this is tested on Vista Home Premium SP1 with UAC enabled :)
17:17:14 <MaienM> I doubt the portable version will contain any bugs, since instead of making it move everything around, I created a patch for a command line option to set where the settings will be saved and submitted it, so it should work properly on all supported platforms :)
17:18:06 <MaienM> thats the best thing of open source, if you miss a feature you can just add it yourself :P
17:21:49 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: did you get a chance to get a splash for KVIrc yet?
17:26:05 <ZachThibeau> ok MaienM I posted my test results in the release team page :) hopefully the others agree with me
17:26:35 <MaienM> lets hope so :)
17:27:06 <ZachThibeau> MaienM: so you created a patch for TMW in general to make it portable :O
17:27:40 <MaienM> well it was pretty portable as it was already, no use of the registry, it saved everything in a folder in the user dir
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17:28:54 <MaienM> and I made a patch that added a command line to pick the folder to be used for the settings (so instead of C:/Documents and Settings/USERNAME/.tmw you could for example use C:/TMW/)
17:29:47 <ZachThibeau> I'm impressed
17:30:00 <MaienM> it was pretty easy actually :P
17:30:36 <MaienM> its written in C++, and it uses one global variable in which it stores the full path of the settings dir
17:30:46 <MaienM> the patch was only like 6 lines ;)
17:31:13 <ZachThibeau> still not bad :)
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17:51:16 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: any updates?
17:52:29 <JohnTHaller> i'm currently working on the platform. nothnig to report
17:52:41 <ZachThibeau> ohh ok
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18:05:41 <ZachThibeau> DVDStyler Portable 1.7.2 PR 1 ready for testing http://portableapps.com/node/18696
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19:32:57 <KevinPorter> Hello everyone. :)
19:33:01 <KevinPorter> I see pabot is back.
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19:35:05 <cloggedkarl08> hi people
19:35:07 <cloggedkarl08> xD
19:35:25 <sar3th|studying> hi cloggedkarl08
19:35:31 <KevinPorter> Hi cloggedkarl08. Anything we can do for you?
19:35:54 <cloggedkarl08> yes there is actually xD. do u know when the new theme is out for the new p/a menu
19:36:19 <cloggedkarl08> the person who made it was talking about a black one a few days ago
19:37:07 <KevinPorter> To my knowledge, themes will not be released until the 2.0 release of the menu, which will happen in the next few weeks.
19:37:51 <cloggedkarl08> oh. i think its john his name is but he was saying he is putting a theme out he has made for the newest portable apps menu atm. he said he was publishing one soon
19:39:12 <KevinPorter> Yes, themes will be released when the new menu comes out in a few weeks. :)
19:39:31 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter, cloggedkarl08: john was talking about a 1.6 release here soon, to include theming...
19:39:40 <Gizmokid2005> keep watching the forums cloggedkarl08, that's where you'll see it
19:39:55 <KevinPorter> Gizmokid2005: Really? I somehow didn't catch that.
19:40:03 <KevinPorter> cloggedkarl08: Take a look at this if you're interested: http://portableapps.com/node/18408
19:40:03 <Gizmokid2005> KevinPorter: yeah, he was talking about that the other day
19:40:05 <cloggedkarl08> he was saying something about if i signed up to the newsletter i should get it asa it comes out
19:41:00 <cloggedkarl08> yer he was because i signed up for the newsletter xD. so im just want to see the new themes xd
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19:43:53 <cloggedkarl08> :O
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19:45:05 <Oni-Wii> Hi Everyone
19:45:35 <sar3th|studying> hello Oni-Wii
19:46:04 <Oni-Wii> Anything New today?
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19:56:43 <LogiQ21> do you know if there is a way to make Photoshop CS3 portable
19:58:07 <KevinPorter> LogiQ21: Making Photoshop portable is a violation of their EULA, so it is illegal.
19:58:13 <KevinPorter> Can't help you there.
19:58:27 <LogiQ21> oh okay... well nevermind then... I didn't know that
19:59:16 <KevinPorter> If you really need photo editing software, try InkScape or GIMP.
19:59:46 <LogiQ21> So it's a violation to install my copy of photoshop onto a usb drive although the registry is linked to just one computer.
20:00:06 <Gizmokid2005> LogiQ21: exactly
20:02:07 <LogiQ21> oh well
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20:07:12 <pabot> OliverK is needing everyone to try out Geany- http://tinyurl.com/celppl
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20:57:01 <andreasma> bye
20:57:08 <OliverK> bye
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20:58:34 <sar3th|studying> see ya all!
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21:29:25 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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21:57:59 <pabot> Roamer is one of the Linux geeks that are found here from time to time.
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22:18:16 <pa_8527> hello
22:18:24 <pa_6459> hello
22:18:39 <Gizmokid2005> hello pa_6459, pa_8527: what can we do for you?
22:18:48 <pa_6459> how do i get rid of portable apps off my 4gig usb disc
22:18:57 <gluxon> Aww
22:18:57 <Gizmokid2005> just delete it
22:19:02 <gluxon> Yeah.
22:19:08 <gluxon> Just delete the folder it's in.
22:19:08 <pa_6459> it will not delete
22:19:10 <gluxon> ?
22:19:18 <pa_6459> tried that
22:19:28 <pa_8527> i dont know how to put programs into the list of portable apps platform (sorry for my bad english i am german)
22:19:28 <Gizmokid2005> pa_6459: you have to have everything closed and not in use by any other programs in order for it to be able to be deleted
22:19:38 <OliverK> then restart the platform
22:19:38 <gluxon> Wait, do you mean each individual app like Firefox Portable or all of the PortableApps as in the PortableApps Platform?
22:19:48 <MaienM|Away> pa_8527: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
22:19:50 <gluxon> You don't have to restart the platform.
22:19:52 <pa_6459> the whole shebang
22:19:58 <gluxon> ...
22:20:01 <pa_8527> thx ill take a look
22:20:08 <MaienM|Away> pa_6459: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#uninstalling
22:20:20 <pa_6459> ok looking
22:20:27 <gluxon> Uh...
22:20:33 <gluxon> This is really ironic.
22:20:48 <gluxon> One person is asking for one thing and the other is asking for the other. lol
22:20:52 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: stop with the other comments. -ot if you want, but not during support.
22:20:57 <gluxon> Sorry...
22:20:59 <pa_6459> it tried to delete but it deleted some and claims some program is using it
22:21:12 <gluxon> Yeah.
22:21:13 <gluxon> Okay.
22:21:18 <gluxon> Right click on the Taskbar.
22:21:35 <gluxon> Make sure you're not right clicking on a window button...
22:21:41 <gluxon> And select Task Manager.
22:21:43 <pa_6459> k
22:21:52 <gluxon> Click on the Processes Tab
22:21:59 <pa_8527> i read it. but how can i put programs into the list without installing them with this platform? portable firefox, qip and some more programs are already installed on my stick
22:22:07 <pa_6459> someone at the door
22:22:28 <gluxon> And close anything related to PortableApps Like if you want to delete FirefoxPortable, end firefox.exe
22:22:47 <gluxon> To close, rightclick on the process name, and click on "End Process".
22:22:51 <gluxon> Now delete the folder.
22:23:01 <gluxon> Or if that's too complicated for you.
22:23:11 <gluxon> Plug out your flash drive.
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22:23:30 <Roamer> ...
22:23:34 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: you don't want to kill firefox if that's what he's using....
22:23:41 <Roamer> it he was running ffp...
22:23:42 <Roamer> XD
22:23:46 <Gizmokid2005> most likely Roamer
22:23:57 <pa_8527> ...
22:24:00 <gluxon> Gizmokid2005: Yeah but... two FF processes can't be running at the same time.
22:24:05 <pa_8527> youre ignoring my question ^^
22:24:06 <gluxon> And I was using it as an example.
22:24:08 <MaienM|Away> or you made him close his local firefox
22:24:14 <MaienM|Away> pa_8527: one sec
22:24:15 <Roamer> pa_8527: sorry, what is your question?
22:24:22 <pa_8527> i read it. but how can i put programs into the list without installing them with this platform? portable firefox, qip and some more programs are already installed on my stick
22:24:24 <gluxon> Roamer: Read upwards.
22:24:31 <gluxon> You can't.
22:24:37 <pa_8527> -.-
22:24:37 <MaienM|Away> pa_8527: the second paragraph of the link i sent explains where you have to put them
22:24:47 <pa_8527> wait a sec
22:24:49 <gluxon> The app must be in the PortableApps folder.
22:25:49 <pa_8527> i have to put the programs into X:\portableapps\ and the program will bind them into the list?
22:25:58 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8527: exactly
22:26:04 <pa_8527> automaticly?
22:26:13 <Gizmokid2005> the exe has to be under X:\PortableApps\<appsname>\App.exe
22:26:15 <Gizmokid2005> yup
22:26:20 <Gizmokid2005> you may have to refresh the menu, but yes.
22:26:32 <pa_8527> ok ill try it mom ^^
22:26:44 <pa_8527> (is my english very bad?)
22:26:59 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8527: not really, you are doing very well :)
22:27:08 <Gizmokid2005> better than I can say for the native english speakers I know
22:28:26 <pa_8527> thx, i still have to learn a lot this evening, im going to write a test tomorrow about "inversion"
22:28:57 <pa_8527> do you know something about inversion?
22:29:33 <OliverK> nope, never hear of it
22:30:06 <pa_8527> it's like: never have i heard something like that | it's with more "emphasis"
22:32:42 <pa_8527> the folders are in portableapps now, there are no programs in the list... i restarted already
22:34:50 <pa_8527> thx 4 your help
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22:39:04 <pabot> daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311
22:39:15 <daBomb69> pabot! Ur back! :D
22:39:16 <pabot> daBomb69!
22:40:25 <Roamer> daBomb69!
22:40:35 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: hello
22:40:42 <daBomb69> Hi Gizmokid2005
22:40:45 <gluxon> pabot!
22:40:46 <pabot> gluxon!
22:41:00 <gluxon> Hey daBomb69
22:41:10 <daBomb69> Hi gluxon
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22:48:18 <tallman227> uh hello?
22:48:23 <Gizmokid2005> hello tallman227, anything we can help you with today?
22:49:25 <tallman227> oh hi! umm im kinda bad with these things and just got them from my school for school purposes and it came with a bunch of unnecessary apps.... is there a way to delete apps from the thumbdrive to make more space?
22:49:29 <tallman227> for other apps?
22:49:32 <Gizmokid2005> Yup
22:49:36 <Gizmokid2005> just delete the app folder
22:50:11 <tallman227> no but i mean in the bottom right corner of ur comp screen when u click the portable apps icon, and a bunch of apps come up, can u delete those ones?
22:50:15 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#removingapps
22:50:24 <Gizmokid2005> just delete the app folder on the drive
22:50:30 <Gizmokid2005> then refresh the menu
22:50:50 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite <-- that's a good place to start
22:50:57 <Gizmokid2005> and will most likely answer most, if not all, of your questions
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22:53:49 <tallman227> k but i already deleted the unnecessary apps from there im trying to delete things like smart ideas 5 or w.e that is and like all those open office programs which i dont need... how do i delete those?
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22:54:17 <Gizmokid2005> tallman227: the process is the same
22:54:26 <Gizmokid2005> you have to find what folder the app is located in, and delete said folder
22:54:39 <Gizmokid2005> if you hover over the app icon in the menu, it should tell you what folder it's stored int
22:54:40 <Gizmokid2005> *in
22:54:47 <Gizmokid2005> and that would be the folder you want to delet
22:54:50 <Gizmokid2005> *delete
22:55:13 <tallman227> ohh ok >.< wow im slow.... sorry ! thnx for the help!
22:55:26 <Gizmokid2005> it's alright
22:55:29 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome tallman227
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23:04:30 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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23:09:28 <pabot> OliverK is needing everyone to try out Geany- http://tinyurl.com/celppl
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23:16:56 <pabot> kai_62656 is here. He's developing LMarbles, Lincity-NG, WinHTTrack Website Copier, Gourmet, and NVDA Portable.
23:17:56 <gluxon> kai!
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23:20:46 <kai_62656> gluxon?
23:20:51 <kai_62656> :P phail
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23:47:28 <Roamer> purple: what about rm -rf / that's pretty perminate...
23:47:40 <purple> what?
23:47:57 <Gizmokid2005> lol
23:47:58 <Gizmokid2005> that it is Roamer
23:48:11 <Gizmokid2005> purple: that's linux for for format C:
23:48:15 <purple> oh
23:48:17 <purple> :)
23:48:29 <Gizmokid2005> that removes recursively, forcibly / (/ = everything)
23:48:30 <purple> Gizmokid2005, its not really format equivalent :)
23:48:43 <Gizmokid2005> purple: yeah it is
23:48:46 <Gizmokid2005> its linux
23:48:47 <Gizmokid2005> :P
23:48:53 <Roamer> technically unix for format C:, but it works in linux too
23:48:55 <Roamer> :P
23:49:02 <Gizmokid2005> Roamer: same thing basically
23:49:08 <purple> you fail
23:49:09 <Gizmokid2005> not splitting hairs now.
23:49:10 <Gizmokid2005> :P
23:49:19 <purple> :)
23:49:43 <Roamer> Oh I do. When someone says unix = linux, i get annoyed. but the commands are simmilar.
23:49:50 * Roamer loves linux
23:49:53 <Gizmokid2005> lol
23:49:58 <purple> i use linux too :)
23:50:00 <Gizmokid2005> Roamer: yeah...*nix is pretty similar
23:50:01 <purple> just not now
23:50:09 <purple> im playing with Arch ATM
23:50:37 <excid> arch is awesome
23:50:46 <purple> indeed
23:50:53 <excid> very slim and speedy
23:51:11 <excid> has its downfalls for sure though
23:51:13 <excid> has its downfalls for sure though
23:51:15 <excid> :\
23:51:20 <excid> like my typing
23:51:55 <purple> heh
23:52:41 <purple> its speed depends of number of factor nto just its concept
23:52:48 <purple> *not
23:52:56 <purple> it can be slow as ubuntu :)
23:53:17 <Roamer> my ubuntu is fast tyvm.
23:53:30 <purple> ..and vice versa
23:53:31 <purple> :)
23:53:36 <purple> my bad
23:53:49 <Roamer> 3 gb RAM helps that though. :P
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23:55:40 <pabot> JacobMastel is hopping the other rt guys will start to test other apps and add them to the development status page....http://portableapps.com/development/test/status
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23:59:52 <purple> hmm
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