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01:36:21 <DaveDixonII> Who wants to see how i failed today?
01:36:22 <DaveDixonII> http://pastebin.com/d7faef4ed
01:36:32 <DaveDixonII> My friend Ribbit pasted it
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01:38:17 <SergentSiler> wow
01:39:24 <DaveDixonII> Lol
01:39:33 <daBomb69> wow
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01:51:36 <Nathan92220> k guys I have good new in AIOA development, I believe now I have a good efficient way of getting recurring alarms
01:51:44 <Nathan92220> Cant wait to get taffin to test this out
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02:04:45 <pa_9100> hello all
02:05:16 <Bensawsome> hello pa_9100. Can we help you with something?
02:05:21 <pa_9100> sure
02:05:39 <pa_9100> i have installed xampp on my portableapps thing
02:05:45 <pa_9100> and it has a lot of menu items
02:05:57 <pa_9100> i was wondering if i could create a folder on the menu to group them into?
02:06:02 <ZachThibeau> xampp should be top directory not in the portableapps folder ;)
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02:06:16 <pa_9100> well crap
02:06:19 <ZachThibeau> the launcher for xampp should be there
02:06:31 <pa_9100> in portableapps?
02:06:58 <ZachThibeau> http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp use this the installer makes a launcher for xampp in X:/portableapps/xamppportable
02:07:16 <ZachThibeau> then extract xampp to X:/xampp
02:07:42 <pa_9100> that's what i did
02:07:49 <ZachThibeau> you sure
02:07:52 <pa_9100> that's not what i'm asking about
02:08:02 <ZachThibeau> the way you explained it didn't sound like that
02:08:24 <pa_9100> well, i have it installed
02:08:39 <pa_9100> and it put a lot of options on the portableapps menu
02:08:42 <pa_9100> where the programs are
02:09:05 <pa_9100> and i'm wondering if i can create a folder in that, so i can store all of the shortcuts in it
02:09:13 <ZachThibeau> there should be only 1 exe for the launcher though
02:09:13 <ChrisMorgan> pa_9100: What ZachThibeau is saying is: when you get XAMPP from apachefriends, DON'T extract it to PortableApps\XAMPP or anything like that. Extract it to \xampp.
02:09:32 <pa_9100> like c:\xampp?
02:09:36 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
02:09:40 <pa_9100> ah
02:09:50 <pa_9100> so i've installed it incorrectly then?
02:09:58 <ChrisMorgan> It sounds like it.
02:10:09 <pa_9100> ok
02:10:30 <pa_9100> so how is it tied in w/ portable apps if i cant install it and run it from the flash drive?
02:10:52 <ChrisMorgan> Then once you've done that, you can install the XAMPP launcher from http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp
02:10:57 <ChrisMorgan> The launcher will run it.
02:11:17 <TimClark> do you have it showing in your paps menu now pa_9100 ?
02:12:11 <pa_9100> i have things like xampp-control, xampp-portcheck, start, stop, etc
02:12:15 <pa_9100> in my pap menu
02:12:16 <TimClark> and you want to hide some items or group them in the menu
02:12:22 <pa_9100> yeah
02:12:35 <TimClark> grouping will come later , but look at this
02:12:37 <ChrisMorgan> OK then, you need to delete your PortableApps\XAMPP folder, or move it to the root of the drive.
02:12:42 <TimClark> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#hidingicons
02:12:52 <ChrisMorgan> TimClark: I'm not sure you're understanding, that's not what's needed at all.
02:13:17 <ChrisMorgan> pa_9100: do you understand the difference between XAMPP from ApacheFriends and the XAMPP Launcher from PortableApps.com?
02:13:19 <TimClark> ChrisMorgan: you maybe right, but I'm not sure you're understanding
02:13:49 <pa_9100> no
02:14:08 <ChrisMorgan> OK, what I understand is that pa_9100 wants XAMPP and a single launcher in the menu for it, right or not right pa_9100?
02:14:09 <pa_9100> i thought i just ran the install program from portable apps and pointed it where pap was on the flash drive
02:14:39 <pa_9100> i just want to have a folder on the pap menu to store all the shortcuts in
02:14:41 <ZachThibeau> xampp needs to be installed into a top level directory like C:/xampp
02:14:44 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, XAMPP is a bit different at the moment. It's not bundled up with a PortableApps.com launcher.
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02:15:19 <pa_9100> then why in the world are the yahoos providing an installer for it?
02:15:35 <ChrisMorgan> So that it can appear in the menu
02:15:53 <pa_9100> and do what? point to a program on the hard drive?
02:15:54 <ChrisMorgan> So you get the following structure:
02:16:04 <ChrisMorgan> X:\xampp - has XAMPP in it.
02:16:31 <pa_9100> i got it in x:\pap\xampp
02:16:36 <ChrisMorgan> X:\PortableApps\XAMPPPortable - has the launcher, which will launch the XAMPP control panel from X:\xampp, and only show one icon in the menu'
02:17:04 <pa_9100> so basically i have to uninstall it then
02:17:10 <ChrisMorgan> OK, you need to move it to X:\xampp, and then install the /Launcher/ to X:\PortableApps\XAMPPPortable
02:17:18 <ChrisMorgan> Yes, or you could just move it.
02:17:24 <ChrisMorgan> Have you run it at all?
02:17:29 <pa_9100> and then reinstall it into x:\xampp, and then run the pap installer
02:17:47 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
02:18:20 <pa_9100> and then on the pap menu, i'll have one icon for a xampp launcher that will set it up to run when i want it to?
02:18:28 <ChrisMorgan> Yes :-)
02:18:33 <pa_9100> cool
02:18:53 <pa_9100> so xampp is basically an apache server for http connections to whatever box i'm running it on?
02:19:17 <ChrisMorgan> (btw, if you've run your XAMPP from the wrong place at all, you'll need to kill it rather than just moving it, as XAMPP has some paths which it sets as absolute which breaks across drive letters (I'm working on a solution, I may get round to finishing it soon))
02:19:18 <ChrisMorgan> yes, that's it
02:19:34 <pa_9100> awesome
02:19:38 <ChrisMorgan> It also has PHP, MySQL and more
02:19:42 <pa_9100> anybody here familuar w/ tor portable?
02:19:56 <ChrisMorgan> So then you can access X:\xampp\htdocs as http://localhost
02:20:19 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't, and I believe that there are serious legal issues with it, or was that just XeroBank?
02:20:22 <pa_9100> ok, or point someone to my IP and have them d/l pages of a specific directory
02:20:32 <pa_9100> xerobank
02:20:42 <pa_9100> tor's the one financed by the navy
02:21:37 <ChrisMorgan> Yes. You can modify the Apache configuration to go to a different directory if you want to.
02:21:59 <ChrisMorgan> Just can't remember if there were trademark issues with Mozilla... including all the Firefox branding. Might have just been XeroBank.
02:22:34 <pa_9100> not likely. so long as you're using the name within license of the GPL then you're find
02:22:35 <pa_9100> fine
02:23:11 <ChrisMorgan> No, not with trademarks.
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02:23:28 <pa_9100> oh, yeah. with that there was
02:23:54 <pa_9100> they tried to rip off the code for firefox, modify it to work with a commercial venture, and call it something else
02:24:05 <ChrisMorgan> If you use Mozilla branding without their permission, you're in trouble. PortableApps.com has permission - otherwise we couldn't legally have Firefox etc. Portable. We'd need to go with different names like IceWeasel...
02:26:03 <ChrisMorgan> So, you've got your XAMPP setup working fine now pa_9100?
02:26:10 <pa_9100> eh crap. tor's not setup to integrate with pap. grr. they need to make a way for users to make sortcuts in the pap menu to other portable programs they have installed on a drive
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02:27:17 <ChrisMorgan> pa_9100: have you tried searching for Tor Portable? http://portableapps.com/search/node/tor+portable
02:27:33 <ChrisMorgan> You'll find http://portableapps.com/node/17578 early on the first page
02:27:52 <pa_9100> i have that, but it can't be integrated w/ pap w/o a whole bunch of crap
02:28:05 <ChrisMorgan> What do you mean?
02:28:11 <ChrisMorgan> (and btw, please don't swear)
02:28:27 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, guys, end of lunch time, g2g. Won't be back tonight.
02:28:37 <ChrisMorgan> See you tomorrow.
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02:29:38 <pa_9100> well, with portabletor, it has its own version of firefox. well, pap's firefox can't be integrated without totally replacing it. if i just do a copy/paste of the tor firefox then it'll probably mess up pap somehow
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03:18:12 <taruna> Hi, support channel ...
03:18:41 <JacobMastel> Hi taruna do you need help?
03:18:53 <taruna> Yes I am
03:19:01 <JacobMastel> Okay what can I help you with?
03:19:29 <taruna> I want to know how to uninstall application on my portable disk?
03:19:40 <JacobMastel> Delete it's folder
03:19:55 <taruna> just so simple ..
03:19:58 <JacobMastel> Did you install the menu to the root of a drive?
03:20:06 <taruna> yes I do
03:20:23 <JacobMastel> Then delete X:\PortableApps\FireFoxPortable
03:20:28 <JacobMastel> That's just an example
03:20:35 <JacobMastel> You can delete witchever app you wnat
03:20:40 <JacobMastel> *want
03:21:05 <taruna> Is there any software to manage like add/remove program?
03:21:13 <JacobMastel> No there isn't sorry
03:21:37 <taruna> ok, thanks so much for your help Jacob
03:22:08 <JacobMastel> No problem anything else you need help with?
03:22:51 <taruna> no just for now, its solve my problem, thank you.
03:23:07 <JacobMastel> No prob
03:23:15 <taruna> bye
03:23:21 <JacobMastel> See ya
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03:25:42 <JacobMastel> Hi PatrickPatience
03:37:14 * JacobMastel cries because PatrickPatience didn't say hi back :'(
03:39:25 <PatrickPatience> HI!
03:40:20 <JacobMastel> :D
03:40:33 <JacobMastel> 1.6 beta is supposed to come out tomorrow. :D
03:40:38 * JacobMastel wonders if it will actually happen
03:47:36 <PatrickPatience> My sources say yes.
03:47:44 <PatrickPatience> Ah, who am I kidding? I don't have sources.
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04:37:17 <pa_0175> hello
04:37:56 <Nathan92220> sup
04:38:40 <pa_0175> can a usb device installed with portableapps booted like a bootable device ?
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04:40:40 <TimClark> pa_0175: sorry, no it can't
04:41:36 <TimClark> The PAP/Menu is run by windows, or something emulating windows
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04:41:59 <TimClark> sorry for the delay in your answer
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04:46:21 <excid3> hehe TimClark thoughts on my new wallpaper http://saraschaefer.com/ss/middle_finger.jpg
04:46:24 <excid3> whooops
04:46:27 <excid3> completely wrong link
04:46:34 <TimClark> Note to all: truncated English, RS/Lolcat speak or anything else is not appropriate during support
04:46:38 <excid3> http://www.flickr.com/photos/20473873@N03/3397872272/sizes/l/
04:46:57 <TimClark> how's that for a thought on your new wallpaper
04:47:17 <Nathan92220> lol the middle finger
04:47:25 <TimClark> shush Nathan92220
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04:50:09 <TimClark> excid3: i will give you the benefit of the doubt for now, but now you know to be more careful
04:50:40 <excid3> i'm sorry, i forgot that was on the clipboard :(
04:51:06 <TimClark> nothing is showing in the link ?
04:51:26 <excid3> the flickr one?
04:52:09 <TimClark> ah, i guess that was the image
04:52:15 <TimClark> not very funny
04:52:58 <TimClark> who did you know that had an illegal copy of windows to get it ? :P
04:53:20 <excid3> Google, he's my best friend.
04:53:45 <TimClark> ahh, so you pasted it in an made wallpaper from it
04:54:03 <excid3> yeah lol
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04:56:04 <TimClark> hello tk/Guest5358
04:56:14 <Guest5358> hi everyone
04:57:25 <TimClark> Can we help you with anything today Guest5358 ?
04:57:34 <Guest5358> i come here to ask for help. because i am translating about "Translations for PortableApps.com Platform 1.6 (Urgent!)"
04:57:43 <TimClark> go on
04:57:45 <Guest5358> to chiese
04:57:49 <Guest5358> chinese
04:58:13 <TimClark> let me guess , you can't get the translation to show up on the fourm ?
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04:59:54 <TimClark> Guest5358: does the translation show up with a lot of ? ?? ????? in it ?
05:01:16 <Guest5358> no, i don`t know some information about the following
05:01:54 <Guest5358> for the language of Chinese, LocaleID=?
05:01:59 <Guest5358> LocaleWinName
05:02:06 <Guest5358> LocaleCode2
05:02:09 <Guest5358> such these
05:03:01 <TimClark> just make a post here: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-03-28_-_localization_help and indicate that you don't know the information for those parts
05:03:20 <TimClark> with the indication [correction]
05:03:41 <Guest5358> i am translating the "some updated translations for this release", if you still need it
05:03:51 <Guest5358> thx
05:04:03 <TimClark> you are welcome :)
05:05:13 <TimClark> translating is very difficult if some of the terms are unknown to you, I understand
05:05:24 <Guest5358> i checked it. there isn't what i need
05:05:33 <TimClark> terms/codes
05:06:01 <TimClark> Guest5358: Post that you don't have that information in the topic i indicated
05:06:20 <TimClark> Ask if anyone knows the codes/terms to use
05:06:38 <Guest5358> understood.
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05:08:13 <Guest5358> thx for your help.
05:08:35 <TimClark> of course , you are welcome, and thanks for helping to translate
05:09:01 <Guest5358> :D
05:09:06 <TimClark> :)
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05:27:47 <Guest5358> i have finished chinese translation and posted it.:)
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07:27:13 <rmccue> excid3: ping
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07:51:38 <ibrahimjon> Salam from Tajikistan!
07:54:32 <ibrahimjon> I have posted Tajik localization text of the Platform
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08:35:15 <ibrahimjon> Please add "Tajikistan" to the list of countries, so when registering users from this country will use their own country instead of using Russia or other countries
08:35:34 <ibrahimjon> http://portableapps.com
08:45:56 <upnPAD> gj ibrahimjon
08:47:15 <ibrahimjon> Salam upnPAD
08:47:30 <upnPAD> Salam = hello/greetings im guessing :P
08:52:34 <ibrahimjon> yes
08:53:34 <ibrahimjon> my location is not Russia http://portableapps.com/user/110937
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08:56:52 <LordQuackstar> anyone on?
09:03:10 <LordQuackstar> i'll try later
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11:24:10 <sar3th> hello @all!
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11:27:50 <Bensawsome> hello ZachThibeau >_>
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12:32:40 <LordQuackstar> anyone on?
12:34:45 <sar3th> heya LordQuackstar
12:34:52 <LordQuackstar> ah, finnaly
12:35:00 <LordQuackstar> good with nsis?
12:35:13 <LordQuackstar> (or at least know what your doing)
12:35:16 <sar3th> yes
12:36:29 <LordQuackstar> I'm tring to make a launcher for a game, and it has a menu screen that when you click start game, the menu starts the game and quits. But when it quits, NSIS runs the removing part. Is their a way to wait until all child processes are done?
12:37:44 <sar3th> yes, you need to use findproc..look at inkscape portable, it is used there
12:38:19 <LordQuackstar> ok, thanks
12:47:36 <LordQuackstar> sar3th, inkscape portable is an autoit app...
12:47:58 <sar3th> LordQuackstar: wait a second
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12:57:47 <LordQuackstar> wait, found it
13:05:12 <sar3th> sorry for taking so long: http://portableapps.com/node/17707
13:06:12 <sar3th> LordQuackstar: the relevant lines are here: http://pastebin.com/m29ff4498
13:06:20 <sar3th> they belong right after LauchNow
13:06:54 <LordQuackstar> thats ok
13:07:10 <LordQuackstar> i actually found that few lines right before you did...
13:07:24 <sar3th> okay..sorry for taking so long, though
13:08:46 <LordQuackstar> whats the proper way to do a goto in that situation. I was just going to StrCmp $R0 "1" Goto RunAppEnd, buts its throwing errors
13:10:02 <sar3th> LordQuackstar: StrCmp $R0 "1" RunAppEnd
13:10:10 <LordQuackstar> ...
13:10:26 <sar3th> just leave out the goto
13:10:43 <LordQuackstar> NSIS has to be one the weirdest languages i've seen
13:11:06 <LordQuackstar> it seems just like a fancy windows batch file
13:12:16 <sar3th> yes, sometimes things are quite strange
13:12:38 <LordQuackstar> i'm used to php, java, html, js, and css
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13:30:17 <LordQuackstar> is it a good idea to make a sourceforge project a) at all b) all my future portableapps in one project c) all in seperate projects?
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13:33:27 <LordQuackstar> (note i don't have a website that supports exes)
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14:02:46 <ZachThibeau> LordQuackstar: sorry for the late response, you can use sourceforge.net or even googlecode.com :)
14:03:13 <ZachThibeau> as long as they have an OSI approved license
14:04:19 <LordQuackstar> thats ok, but should i combine them all in one big project or individual small ones. I'm going to be making more game launchers in the future
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14:05:03 <ZachThibeau> we usually use 1 project for downloads
14:05:36 <LordQuackstar> so split them all up?
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14:07:59 <pa_3106> hi
14:08:20 <pa_3106> i was wondering if there was a way to get rid of all the splashscreens of the portable apps?
14:09:39 <LordQuackstar> pa_3106: about 90% of the time theirs an option in the ini file
14:10:36 <pa_3106> aha
14:10:39 <pa_3106> ok,
14:10:42 <pa_3106> ill check that
14:10:42 <LordQuackstar> Nice "bug free installer" pa.com has: Output: "H:\portableapps\PortableApps\SWEAW_Portable_0.3.paf.exe" Internal compiler error #12345: deflateInit() failed(initialization failed [-2]).
14:10:58 <LordQuackstar> Error - aborting creation process
14:11:02 <LordQuackstar> ...
14:11:44 <pa_3106> hmm,
14:11:54 <pa_3106> cant find any ini file for the infrarecorder
14:12:22 <LordQuackstar> yea their is: \other\source
14:12:36 <pa_3106> ok
14:12:41 <pa_3106> thank you for your help
14:13:03 <LordQuackstar> np
14:14:23 <pa_3106> what is the difference between the exe-file in the root folder
14:14:35 <pa_3106> and the one in the app/*app_name* folder
14:14:37 <pa_3106> ?
14:15:09 <pa_3106> why are there 2 and do i need them both?
14:15:44 <sar3th> yes, you need them both - the one in the root folder is called launcher, it takes care of your settings
14:15:56 <sar3th> the one in the app folder is used by the launcher
14:16:36 <pa_3106> now i edited the ini file, changed the spalshscreen status to true
14:16:46 <pa_3106> when i start the launcher
14:16:52 <pa_3106> it still shows me the splashscreen
14:17:04 <pa_3106> but when i open the one in the appfolder
14:17:07 <pa_3106> it doesnt..
14:17:21 <pa_3106> im a lil confused :)
14:17:32 <sar3th> you should never start the exe in the app-folder directly
14:17:38 <LordQuackstar> no, you normally copy the ini file to the root program dir
14:17:46 <ZachThibeau> you need to move the ini file to appnameportable.exe
14:17:56 <LordQuackstar> the one with infrarecorderportable.exe4
14:17:58 <pa_3106> ah, ok
14:17:59 <LordQuackstar> *exe
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14:18:06 <pa_3106> so i undo the change
14:18:11 <pa_3106> and then i copy the ini
14:18:31 <pa_3106> and then i change the new ini in the root folder accordingly
14:19:28 <ZachThibeau> wee techinically you don't need to revert your changes just copy and paste the ini file to the appnameportable folder
14:19:31 <ZachThibeau> **well
14:19:52 <pa_3106> ok, ive doen that, seems to be working.
14:19:57 <pa_3106> thanks guys
14:20:05 <ZachThibeau> no problem
14:20:43 <pa_3106> still dont understand the redundancy (same for the data folder and the settings-file), but i guess i dont have to...
14:21:22 <ZachThibeau> no it's not redundant the launcher is made specifically to save the changes the one in app/appname/appname.exe makes
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14:34:03 <andreasma> hi
14:34:14 <sar3th> hello andreasma
14:34:33 <andreasma> howdy sar3th
14:34:37 <Roamer> need help with something?
14:35:57 <andreasma> Roamer no
14:36:19 <Roamer> I realise that now, sorry. force of habit. :P
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15:42:22 <Brian_S> Dave
15:44:00 <ZachThibeau> howdy Brian_S
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15:49:24 <Falcobem> I have a simple question, I have previous instalations of some portable apps, but would like to ADD the Suite, can I do this without loosing the apps already installed?
15:54:45 <MaienM|Away> Falcobem: just install the suite, it will not delete any of the apps
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16:10:32 <JohnTHaller> ho - la
16:10:41 <OliverK> hail! JohnTHaller
16:10:47 * OliverK mutes room :D
16:10:58 <OliverK> how goes it?
16:11:44 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
16:11:50 <JohnTHaller> it goes. busy busy. what needed to be muted?
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16:12:58 <OliverK> just a joke
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16:14:42 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
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16:19:34 <rcmaehl> hey whats the command for getting chanserv in a channel?
16:19:42 <OliverK> rcmaehl: /cs
16:19:54 <OliverK> rcmaehl: set guard on.
16:20:12 <MaienM> /msg chanserv set #CHANNEL guard on
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16:29:51 <ZachThibeau> OliverK: mind checking the release team status page and take a look at TMWPortable, everything looks fine for me, but a second opinion maybe nice :)
16:30:07 <OliverK> ZachThibeau: sure
16:30:12 <ZachThibeau> ty
16:32:18 <ZachThibeau> it's that TMWPortable seems ready to me and since it was just me it's better to be safe than be sorry
16:33:17 <OliverK> can you give me a link, please? I'm conversing with ben and getting AVG and a other stuff. (read: lazy)
16:33:33 <ZachThibeau> http://portableapps.com/node/18024
16:33:58 <OliverK> gracious
16:34:23 <ZachThibeau> yw
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16:43:41 <OliverK> Hello, pa_3310. Is there something that the PortableApps.com community can help you with today?
16:43:50 <pa_3310> Help. Do any of these apps run in Xubuntu?
16:43:59 <OliverK> under wine, they do
16:44:57 <pa_3310> Don't know enough about linux. What do you mean by wine?
16:45:18 <ptmb> WINE is an application for linux that allows you to run windows programs inside it
16:45:43 <ptmb> If you go to your Start Menu and go to Add/Remove Applications
16:45:57 <ptmb> you can find wine and install it
16:48:39 <pa_3310> I don't see wine in the list
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16:49:19 <ptmb> You went to the Applications Menu, and opened "Add/Remove Programs"?
16:49:59 <ZachThibeau> pa_3310: http://winehq.org/download/deb read the instructions there it should aid you in installing wine into linux for you
16:50:12 <ptmb> That works too :P
16:50:34 <ptmb> and that way you get the latest version
16:50:41 <JohnTHaller> I think Wine should be in it by default if you search for it. You may need to add 'universe'
16:50:55 <MaienM> "sudo apt-get install wine" should work fine
16:51:23 <MaienM> or just use the add/remove programs thing
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17:50:12 <alpha1beta> hello
17:50:27 <Bensawsome> hey alpha1beta :)
17:50:35 <alpha1beta> shouldn't you be in school?
17:50:39 <Bensawsome> lol
17:50:39 <Bensawsome> no
17:50:44 <Bensawsome> what about you :P
17:50:52 <alpha1beta> mental health day.
17:51:23 <alpha1beta> so what's going on in here?
17:52:50 <ZachThibeau> howdy alpha1beta
17:52:55 <ZachThibeau> not much
17:53:13 <alpha1beta> hey zach, I would ask what's up, but I think you beat me to that :P
17:53:25 <ZachThibeau> I'm working on getting my blog running and testing a few apps, answering a few posts on portableapps.com, the usualy really :P
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17:54:12 <ZachThibeau> wb ptmb
17:54:24 <ptmb> Hi ZachThibeau!
17:54:57 <ZachThibeau> anyways I'm going afk for a little bit I'll bbs
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18:23:00 <MaienM> OliverK: what do you think of TMWPortable?
18:23:30 <OliverK> MaienM: I've noted some comments. I'm unable to do a regshot, as I have about a dozen things running right now.
18:23:51 <OliverK> but, I know someother have done so
18:23:57 <OliverK> i think :p
18:23:58 <MaienM> OliverK: the original app doesn't use the registry so I doubt you would find much ;)
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18:28:21 <tommck> I keep having problems installing the suite on my USB drive.. "errors writing xxxxx" where "xxxxx" is any random file.
18:28:48 <tommck> it's not always the same file.. I checked the disk for errors in vista with no issues.
18:28:55 <tommck> I ran the installer as Admin, just in case
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18:29:15 <tommck> no idea what's wrong. I installed Thunderbird by itself and that works fine
18:29:48 <sar3th> tommck: could it be that your drive is broken?
18:29:54 <tommck> doubt it
18:30:01 <tommck> I Have a full linux install on it...
18:30:11 <tommck> with 3 partitions.
18:30:19 <tommck> I have PStart.exe running with 4 apps on it.
18:30:27 <tommck> trucrypt is there too.
18:30:35 <tommck> only this installer has issues..
18:30:41 <tommck> I re-downloaded... md5sum checked....
18:31:28 <sar3th> tommck: can you install it to a folder on your harddrive and then copy it to your usb drive?
18:31:41 <tommck> lemme try that...
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18:34:36 <sar3th> were are you installling it to, tommck?
18:34:55 <tommck> I tried the root directory of the partition and it didn't matter
18:35:09 <tommck> it installed on the PC..
18:35:11 <tommck> gonna copy now
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18:36:10 <tommck> huh.. got an error (0x80070057) copying....
18:37:03 <sar3th> tommck: which app?
18:37:09 <markomlm> tommck:copying wath?
18:37:22 <sar3th> markomlm: support
18:37:28 <tommck> copying the Documents folder
18:39:11 <tommck> I'm seeing alot of vista bugs related to that error code..
18:39:23 <tommck> gonna use something else to copy the data over.. see if it's Vista..
18:40:06 <sar3th> tommck: which application are you trying to install?
18:40:11 <markomlm> ok
18:41:56 <tommck> the whole suite
18:42:07 <tommck> I installed Thunderbird by itself and that worked fine..
18:42:18 <tommck> decided I wanted to install the whole suite and can't
18:42:22 <tommck> I think it's a vista issue
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18:42:50 <tommck> or something the installer tries to do with file properties, because I can't even copy these files to a Linux box w/ rsync right now
18:43:04 <markomlm> tommck:Did You install on a stick or local folder?
18:43:15 <tommck> I installed locally as a test..
18:43:24 <tommck> then tried to move it to the USB stick..
18:43:34 <tommck> it wouldn't install directly
18:43:43 <sar3th> which filesystem do you use at your usb-stick
18:43:47 <sar3th> ?
18:43:55 <markomlm> Did You start the installer with right click-run as admin?
18:44:05 <tommck> yes
18:44:12 <tommck> it';s FAT32
18:44:21 <sar3th> the suite can be installed as normal user as well
18:44:35 <sar3th> okay, so no access rights to mess with
18:44:38 <tommck> I tried both
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18:45:12 <sar3th> tommck: it seems your stick is not working properly
18:45:59 <markomlm> sar3th:Sure, but under vista there are sevaral reasons to do it as admin, esp. if You try to install in folders with insufficient user rights ;-)
18:46:08 <tommck> let me try one more thing...
18:46:23 <tommck> I'm an administrator on my machine too
18:47:14 <sar3th> tommck: can you try it at another computer?
18:47:33 <tommck> yeah.. I'll do that next.. got an XP box around here somewhere
18:50:40 <sar3th> markomlm: can you take over?
18:51:06 <markomlm> sarth:Yepp
18:51:16 <sar3th> ty
18:51:23 <markomlm> yw
18:51:26 <markomlm> :-)
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18:55:39 <tommck> on XP, "Error Opening file for writing: D:\Programs\Windows\Documents\Desktop.ini"
18:57:02 <tommck> I'm starting to formulate a theory..
18:57:09 <markomlm> tommck:Pls try to delete the file
18:57:19 <tommck> which file?
18:57:26 <tommck> the file doesn't exist yet
18:57:38 <tommck> the partition is 6GB
18:57:38 <markomlm> Ok
18:57:41 <tommck> FAT32
18:57:49 <tommck> but.... I formatted it in Linux...
18:57:58 <tommck> it currently has 2.00 GB of data on it...
18:58:10 <tommck> I'm wondering if the linux FAT32 format screwed up
18:58:43 <OliverK> i doubt that
18:58:47 <markomlm> Can You reformat the stick with fat32 under xp?
18:58:47 <MaienM> there is no "linux fat32 format", fat32 is the format
18:59:10 <tommck> MaienM - that's true, but the mkfs.vfat command was not written by MSFT
18:59:22 <MaienM> it should not matter, I have never had problems with using linux to format stuff.... but you never know
18:59:27 <tommck> so.. it's possible that it has a bug that doesn't format it quite correctly
18:59:33 <tommck> I haven't had a problem like this before either
18:59:40 <tommck> I'm backing up all the files now
19:00:07 <markomlm> MaienM:That should be so, but in fact its a difference if You create a fat partition with gparted an then use it with windows
19:01:05 <markomlm> In the past I had some funny issues with it. Its not a kinux related bug its a bug with th fat driver of vista
19:01:32 <tommck> markomlm: think I should format under vista or XP?
19:01:46 <markomlm> Yes!
19:01:54 <tommck> I mean, which one?
19:01:54 <tommck> :)
19:02:03 <tommck> it really shouldn't matter, I think
19:02:20 <MaienM> markomlm: I didn't know that..... more vista failure eh? :(
19:02:22 <markomlm> Should, but please use XP
19:02:29 <tommck> will do
19:05:27 <markomlm> MaienM:Yepp. I have created a fat32 partition with 4GB with gparted, no problems at all. move it down to 2GB with gparted. Under Linux and Xp all was ok, under Vista the partition has still 4 GB (not really in fact)
19:06:10 <OliverK> that's a vista fail :(
19:06:42 <markomlm> indeed ...
19:08:04 <tommck> actually, this is Linux's fail.
19:08:11 <tommck> The partition is not set up right.
19:08:16 <tommck> oh wait..
19:08:17 <tommck> nope..
19:08:20 <tommck> it's Windows
19:08:31 <tommck> because it's a 2GB partition!
19:08:40 <markomlm> tommck: Yepp
19:08:43 <tommck> windows doesn't "support" partitions on USB drives
19:08:55 <tommck> so, it only works on the first partition...
19:09:05 <tommck> and it assumes that the partition is the size of the whole drive!
19:09:08 <tommck> idiots!
19:09:38 <sar3th> you can "convert" your usb-drive to a usb hdd by switching 2 bytes or something
19:09:39 <markomlm> on xp it works :-)
19:10:12 <tommck> gonna repartition it on linux and free up some space that way.
19:10:24 <tommck> thanks for troubleshooting with me guys (gals?) :)
19:10:25 <OliverK> yes, i has link to progam
19:11:59 <markomlm> tommck:YOur welcome!
19:12:00 <markomlm> bye for now, time to sleep ;-)
19:12:00 <markomlm> :-)
19:12:00 <tommck> 'night
19:12:01 <sar3th> bye markomlm
19:12:01 <markomlm> ;-)
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19:12:01 <OliverK> okay, once upon a time I did
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19:57:10 <falcobem> I need some help, I logged on earlier, but had to drop off. I want to install the PA Suite but I have previous installs of some of the individual apps already installed. Can I install on top of the apps and still keep them intact?
19:57:25 <MaienM> falcobem: yes, that should work fine
19:57:45 <falcobem> Ok, thanks, I'll try it
19:57:48 <MaienM> falcobem: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#installing
19:57:54 <MaienM> falcobem: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
19:58:09 <MaienM> first link is for installing, second one to add existing apps to the menu
19:58:49 <falcobem> yeah, I looked at those, my concern weas that if I install on top of the previously installed apps, if I'd loose my data
19:59:12 <falcobem> specifically Thunderbird
19:59:50 <MaienM> that shouldn't happen
20:00:01 <MaienM> its designed to save all personal data
20:00:48 <falcobem> ok, i'll try it now and thanks
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20:38:25 <rbrt13> hello
20:38:42 <OliverK> howdy
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20:39:02 <rbrt13> i found a great quote last night
20:39:24 <rbrt13> "Black holes are where God divided by zero." - Stephen Wright
20:39:33 <SrgSiler|sAFK> LOL
20:42:14 <OliverK> neat
20:42:38 <OliverK> anywho, whats the best way to describe linux to some who has no clue what it is in one sentence
20:42:55 <rbrt13> linux = win
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21:09:40 <Oni-Neoxes> HORRAH! Hello Everyone! :D
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21:33:48 <rmccue|mibbit> pabot won't be back soon, this computer keeps crashing. :)
21:33:52 <rmccue|mibbit> Just FYI.
21:34:02 <rmccue|mibbit> Anyway, I'm out of here.
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21:36:49 <gluxon> Can I bring gluxonbot in? Please? :D
21:37:31 * gluxon feels ignored.
21:37:34 <Bensawsome> no
21:37:42 <Bensawsome> someone else is gonna bring theirs in
21:37:54 <Oni-Neoxes> :B
21:37:57 <Oni-Neoxes> Who? Zach?
21:40:41 <gluxon> Awww...
21:40:54 <gluxon> Can I bring him in until that guy gets his in? :D
21:41:34 <Bensawsome> no
21:41:55 <Bensawsome> aparently no one is allowed... Gizmokid2005|AFK's is the offical replacement so i guess none for now
21:42:01 <Oni-Neoxes> Bensawsome: Short sweet and to the point!
21:42:01 <Oni-Neoxes> :D
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22:17:05 <powerjuce> count of hands how many people are not turning their computers on april 1st? :P
22:17:16 * MaienM raises his hand
22:17:34 <MaienM> I won't turn it off, so I don't have to turn it off either
22:17:46 <MaienM> *second off = on
22:17:49 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
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22:18:06 <powerjuce> and i am done!!!! :)
22:18:27 <Oni-Neoxes> I don't really care about that virus
22:18:55 <ZachThibeau> :P
22:18:58 <powerjuce> best antivirus: dont be stupid online
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22:20:02 <Oni-Neoxes> best antivirus : No Script, Flash Block, No Download
22:20:03 <Oni-Neoxes> :B
22:21:38 <powerjuce> Oni-Neoxes: u dont need no script or flash block if u follow my philosophy
22:21:50 <Oni-Neoxes> Fine then
22:21:52 <Oni-Neoxes> no internet
22:21:53 <Oni-Neoxes> happy?
22:22:53 <powerjuce> lol very
22:23:26 <sar3th> powerjuce: when using IE your philosophy fails :P
22:23:55 <powerjuce> sar3th: even then as long as u r not stupid on the internet it still is valid, but it is usually tru
22:24:11 <Havvy> Best antivirus: Linux
22:24:33 <Havvy> An obscure linux at that.
22:24:36 <Bensawsome> lol internet
22:24:44 <sar3th> i liked rbrt13_'s quote before :D
22:24:48 <MaienM> best antivirus: nuke em
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22:24:58 <ZachThibeau> Havvy: linux from scratch FTW :D
22:25:14 <sar3th> gentoo!
22:25:31 <excid> arch linux
22:25:37 <excid> eff tee ddub
22:25:43 <Bensawsome> waffles >_>
22:26:23 <excid> waffles linux, for the hunger inside
22:26:37 * ZachThibeau is coding a linux is based off of Ubuntu but with a custom kernel, programs, (working on starting my own repository too)
22:27:06 <ZachThibeau> wow grammar fail for me XD
22:27:12 <ZachThibeau> but you guys get what I am working on :P
22:27:18 <ZachThibeau> all compiled on my desktop pc
22:27:23 <excid> cool, going to release it to the pub?
22:27:43 <ZachThibeau> once I get a working copy running XD
22:28:01 <excid> bahahahaha the pirate bay can now share links on facebook
22:28:13 <excid> ZachThibeau, make sure it has an awesome them kk?
22:28:17 <excid> *theme
22:28:31 <ZachThibeau> :P
22:29:01 <ZachThibeau> I'm working on wrangling me a gfx designer to join my team of 1 people (that being me)
22:29:53 <powerjuce> ZachThibeau: that is a fun project, i remember doing that in 9th grade
22:30:11 <powerjuce> it is a challenge, but u should keep at it
22:30:27 <ZachThibeau> I hopeing to get an icon set that isn't based off of tango though :P
22:30:30 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: ty :)
22:30:35 <excid> I never bothered, i was going to make one for HP laptops but Gutsy fixed most things
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22:30:59 <powerjuce> i just think it is a fun project to do, and it teaches u a lot about computing
22:31:08 <ZachThibeau> yup :)
22:31:15 <ZachThibeau> howdy Nathan92220
22:31:23 <Nathan92220> hola Zach
22:31:27 <powerjuce> wassup Nathan92220
22:31:34 <ZachThibeau> any more work on the alarm clock thing?
22:32:01 <powerjuce> ZachThibeau: is tat 2 me?
22:32:04 <Nathan92220> yeah im implementing recurring alarms, but still having some problems
22:32:19 <ZachThibeau> I would help but my ahk fails :P
22:32:29 <powerjuce> C ftw!!!
22:32:49 <powerjuce> but my php skills phail a little
22:33:08 <ZachThibeau> my c++ though is pretty good to make the scilexer for ahk to work in notepad2 (which people seem to love in the autohotkey.com forum)
22:33:09 <excid> python is better, you cant deny
22:33:09 <excid> :D
22:33:16 <ZachThibeau> I can and I has :D
22:33:19 <ZachThibeau> jk
22:33:19 <ZachThibeau> :P
22:33:20 <Nathan92220> yup i wish my ahk skills were a lot better but still learning as I go so its fun to have a challenge :P
22:34:08 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: I choose C++ becuase I'm working on a C++ project using wxWidgets (cross platformable foobar2000 inspired application :D
22:34:34 <powerjuce> sweet
22:34:52 <excid> you should write it in assembly
22:34:59 <ZachThibeau> development is at http://musicplay3000.com
22:35:25 <Nathan92220> zach: Im planning on learning c++ in the summer, do you recommend anything I should get or look at before I attempt it?
22:35:37 <ZachThibeau> excid: I already started on c++ I don't need to learn another language
22:35:45 <excid> lawl
22:36:01 <excid> has anyone used github?
22:36:08 <Oni-Neoxes> github?
22:36:10 <ZachThibeau> Nathan92220: I say WxWidgets because the syntax is cross platformable and also syntax is pretty easy too
22:36:19 <ZachThibeau> excid: git ftl D:
22:36:56 <MaienM> ZachThibeau: c++ doesn't take that long :P
22:36:59 <excid> ive never used it
22:37:07 <excid> i like the 'social coding' aspect on github
22:37:26 <MaienM> I learned it during one relationshop that made me sad (needed something to distract myself)
22:37:30 <ZachThibeau> MaienM: I know :P I picked it up myself rather quickly (not as efficiently though XD)
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22:39:05 <ZachThibeau> lawl XD http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-chat/2003-November/018978.html
22:43:23 <Oni-Neoxes> lol Zach
22:43:29 <Oni-Neoxes> nice find :B
22:43:38 <Oni-Neoxes> any idea when Ubuntu 9 comes out?
22:44:06 <rbrt13> some time in april
22:44:16 <excid> yeah, im running it right now
22:44:18 <excid> i LOVE it
22:44:21 <excid> 20 sec boot
22:44:22 <excid> :D
22:44:29 <excid> wewt
22:44:38 <excid> later dudes, class is ova
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22:45:56 <Oni-Neoxes> rawr!
22:54:53 <Oni-Neoxes> ZachThibeau: You there?
22:55:01 <ZachThibeau> yes >_>
22:55:02 <ZachThibeau> <_<
22:55:06 <Oni-Neoxes> ZachThibeau: http://www.pj64-emu.com/downloads/project64/binaries/
22:55:14 <Oni-Neoxes> 1.7 RELEASE BETA IS OUT!!!! :D
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22:55:29 <ZachThibeau> no it isn't Oni-Neoxes :P
22:55:37 <ZachThibeau> you still need to pay for it
22:55:39 <Oni-Neoxes> It was never there before D:
22:55:49 <ZachThibeau> it's been there for over a year now XD
22:56:04 <Oni-Neoxes> I check a month ago that wasn't there
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22:56:21 <ZachThibeau> I was checking for about 2 years and it's been there for just about a year XD
22:56:26 <Oni-Neoxes> <_<
22:56:33 <Oni-Neoxes> Im sure there is a torrent out there :B
22:56:36 <ZachThibeau> I check that spot always to see if they provide a link
22:56:44 * ZachThibeau doesn't like torrents of said beta
22:56:46 <Oni-Neoxes> But I want to play Dr. Mario 64 again D:
22:56:52 <ZachThibeau> doesn't support the devs
22:57:10 <ZachThibeau> no support of the devs = no Pj64
22:57:14 <Oni-Neoxes> Also ZSnes never updates >_>
22:57:30 <ZachThibeau> zsnes is working still ;)
22:57:38 <ZachThibeau> their svn is recieving activity :P
22:57:43 <Oni-Neoxes> it works but never updates
22:57:45 <Oni-Neoxes> Wait
22:57:47 <Oni-Neoxes> svn?
22:57:57 <ZachThibeau> subversion
22:58:13 <Oni-Neoxes> Subversion?
22:58:17 <ZachThibeau> it's a repository of code people in a project can code :)
22:58:28 <ZachThibeau> and they are working on a new version
22:58:37 <ZachThibeau> one that is coded in QT
22:58:49 <ZachThibeau> anyways later guys CSI Time :D
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22:59:00 <Oni-Neoxes> D:
22:59:05 <Oni-Neoxes> but...but...
22:59:12 <Oni-Neoxes> ):
22:59:13 <sar3th> you can compile from svn Oni-Neoxes
22:59:58 <Oni-Neoxes> your ganna have to tell meh :B
23:00:07 <Oni-Neoxes> I wanna try to keep emulation up to date XP
23:00:22 <sar3th> grab the sources from svn, then use your compiler to compile them :P
23:01:19 <Oni-Neoxes> that tells alot. But since Zach is great at emulation. He can most likely tell me the most updated svn :B
23:01:51 <sar3th> ya
23:02:11 <sar3th> anyway, gtg now..01:05, and i got to get up at 08:00..
23:02:14 <sar3th> see ya
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23:09:47 <JacobMastel> Hi guys
23:09:48 <JacobMastel> how's it going?
23:09:51 <SrgSiler|sAFK> ello JacobMastel
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23:11:16 <Oni-Neoxes> That was rather quick :B
23:11:20 <JacobMastel-Away> :p
23:11:24 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
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23:22:32 <Bensawsome> wow...... look at the second item here: http://wiki.digsby.com/doku.php?id=faq#q15
23:22:46 * SrgSiler|sAFK clicks
23:22:55 <Bensawsome> yep o, defomet;y mpt omsa;; omg digsby
23:23:05 <Bensawsome> err yep im definetly not installing disby
23:23:13 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
23:23:26 <Bensawsome> do you see it SrgSiler|sAFK??????????????
23:23:39 <SrgSiler|sAFK> teh computational research thing? :P
23:23:41 <Bensawsome> "We use your CPU's idle time to conduct computational research. You can opt out of this as well."
23:23:44 <SrgSiler|sAFK> ya
23:23:47 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
23:23:50 <Bensawsome> I do NOT like the sound of that
23:23:55 <SrgSiler|sAFK> thats why i run F@H :P
23:24:01 <Bensawsome> huh?
23:24:10 <SrgSiler|sAFK> .g Folding at Home
23:24:11 <GizmoBot> SrgSiler|sAFK: http://folding.stanford.edu/
23:24:13 <SrgSiler|sAFK> win
23:24:38 <Havvy> Are you know just finding that smiley?
23:24:49 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
23:24:57 <Bensawsome> ya how about not SrgSiler|sAFK
23:25:05 <Bensawsome> i do not like the sound of that at all
23:25:09 <Bensawsome> and btw Havvy no
23:25:12 <SrgSiler|sAFK> F@H?
23:25:16 <Bensawsome> i have it in a script
23:25:28 <SrgSiler|sAFK> Bensawsome, u dont like F@H?
23:25:44 <Bensawsome> anything that uses ur computer's idle cpu for "computating" anything
23:26:03 <SrgSiler|sAFK> dude, its from freakin Stanford university >_>
23:26:07 <Bensawsome> i dont care
23:26:10 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
23:26:17 <Bensawsome> i wouldnt care if it was from freaking jesus
23:26:22 <SrgSiler|sAFK> LOL
23:26:25 <Bensawsome> im not trusting anything like that
23:26:51 <SrgSiler|sAFK> also, there are millions of computers running it, and there is a GPU client
23:27:19 <Bensawsome> first, what if someone takes over the main server? they could potentially control your computer and what its "computing" second, if they "compute" something illegal i dont wanna be blamed for it :/
23:27:34 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol, never gonna happen :P
23:27:47 <SrgSiler|sAFK> 1. word would get out before you downloaded a new core
23:27:51 <Bensawsome> lol how you know :/
23:27:56 <SrgSiler|sAFK> 2. its a protien folding program
23:28:07 <Bensawsome> how the heck does it know what to process?
23:28:07 <SrgSiler|sAFK> DUDE, it takes 3 days for an average comp to fold one core
23:28:13 <Bensawsome> it has to be sent it
23:28:20 <Bensawsome> from a server
23:28:24 <SrgSiler|sAFK> meh
23:28:34 <SrgSiler|sAFK> but srsly, it takes like 3 days to finish one core
23:28:50 <Bensawsome> ya and if they are computing "other" things :/
23:28:57 <SrgSiler|sAFK> like what?
23:28:58 <Bensawsome> plus
23:29:00 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
23:29:07 <Bensawsome> because your computer is working at full speed all the time
23:29:18 <Bensawsome> it shortens the life of your computer!
23:29:45 <SrgSiler|sAFK> well my comp is like 7 years old now so it could die any minute anyway :P
23:30:06 <Bensawsome> ya and its gonna die sooner because of that program running on it
23:30:23 <SrgSiler|sAFK> then ill replace what i need to :P
23:30:27 <SrgSiler|sAFK> most likely the cpu
23:30:34 <Bensawsome> lol exactly
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23:30:43 <SrgSiler|sAFK> i need a new cpu anyway :P
23:30:47 <Bensawsome> you will have to spend money to replace it :/
23:30:52 <Bensawsome> hey daBomb69 >_>
23:30:56 <SrgSiler|sAFK> ohai daBomb69
23:31:16 <daBomb69> Hi Bensawsome, ohai SrgSiler|sAFK
23:32:12 <Bensawsome> and also SrgSiler|sAFK once you get the new cpu what are ya gonna do? let fah shorten that ones life too?
23:32:20 <SrgSiler|sAFK> yarly
23:32:32 <Bensawsome> :/
23:32:34 <Bensawsome> smart
23:33:01 <SrgSiler|sAFK> mebbe i like to help figure out causes of cancer n stuff >_>
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23:34:44 <Bensawsome> i would love to also. If it didn't shorten the life of my comp :/
23:34:47 <Bensawsome> plus
23:35:10 <Bensawsome> it generates more heat and uses more power therefore making global warming worse :/
23:35:15 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
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23:35:35 <SrgSiler|sAFK> ya i sereously think drawing 200 watts instead of 150 makes a HUGE difference
23:36:04 <Bensawsome> ya it is overtime
23:36:08 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :/
23:36:09 <SrgSiler|sAFK> meh
23:36:23 <SrgSiler|sAFK> i compensate by using a darker screen :P
23:36:37 <SrgSiler|sAFK> in fact the majority of it right now is black :P
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23:37:15 <Bensawsome> well you could save even more if you didnt have it running all the time :/
23:37:17 <Bensawsome> hello pa_0484. Can we help you with something?
23:37:20 <daBomb69> Hi pa_0484
23:37:23 <pa_0484> hi
23:37:40 <pa_0484> can you tell me how is your technology different from a virtual application ??
23:38:00 <Bensawsome> what do you mean a virtual application? like a virtual machine?
23:38:07 <pa_0484> application virtualization
23:38:16 <pa_0484> like stuff made using VMWare ThinApp
23:38:18 <Bensawsome> oh... you mean like thinstall?
23:38:21 <pa_0484> yeah
23:38:40 <Bensawsome> hmmm i might not be the one to explain that
23:38:44 <Bensawsome> but i can tell you
23:38:44 <daBomb69> Well
23:38:47 <pa_0484> ok...
23:39:20 <Bensawsome> instead of using $1000+ software we use all free software to create ours
23:39:39 <pa_0484> I meant to understand the difference in the two technologies...
23:39:47 <Bensawsome> oh
23:39:55 <pa_0484> i already use your stuff...
23:39:56 <Bensawsome> well we use nsis to portablize them
23:39:59 <pa_0484> and it's great...
23:40:04 <pa_0484> NSIS... ok...
23:40:15 <Bensawsome> ok
23:40:25 <Bensawsome> so when an app from portableapps.com opens
23:40:35 <Bensawsome> the settings are restored
23:40:43 <Bensawsome> and then you go about using the app
23:40:56 <Bensawsome> then it saves the settings back and closes the app
23:40:57 <pa_0484> oh... ok... so eventually... the application does interact with the registry of the system??
23:41:44 <Bensawsome> well. any portableapp which uses the registry has to have its reg entries applied to the system but it is then backed up to the usb drive on close then deleted from the system
23:41:57 <Bensawsome> but
23:42:03 <pa_0484> ok... so it kinda works and then removes the traces...
23:42:21 <pa_0484> sneaky... but cool...
23:42:22 <pa_0484> thanks...
23:42:28 <Bensawsome> usually we try to avoid apps which use registry because most comps with limited priveldges dont allow reg changes
23:42:36 <Bensawsome> and no problem :)
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23:42:46 <Bensawsome> lol
23:43:13 <Bensawsome> well thinstall fails cause it 1000+ dollar program and 99% of portableapps made from it are illegal ;D
23:43:25 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
23:43:28 <daBomb69> Only 99% :P
23:43:29 <Bensawsome> lol
23:43:54 <daBomb69> And half the time, it doesn't work
23:44:00 <SrgSiler|sAFK> LOL
23:44:23 <Bensawsome> ya :/
23:44:38 <Bensawsome> most of em dont even save ur settings :/
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23:56:59 <daBomb69> Hi ZachThibeau
23:57:10 <ZachThibeau> howdy
23:57:21 <daBomb69> How are you today?
23:58:10 <ZachThibeau> tonight you mean ;)
23:58:16 <ZachThibeau> I'm tired :P
23:58:31 <daBomb69> Today/tonight/tomarrow/[insert time here] :P
23:58:34 <daBomb69> oh
23:59:04 <ZachThibeau> I'm ADT :P aka gmt -a Atlantic Canada :P
23:59:10 <ZachThibeau> gmt -4 I mean
23:59:12 <ZachThibeau> XD
23:59:25 <SrgSiler|sAFK> -5 GMT FTW :D
23:59:28 <daBomb69> Better question: What time is it?
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23:59:50 <ZachThibeau> 9:01pm here