IRC Log from 2009-04-23

00:00:41 <Gizmokid2005> I wanted to test their portability bugfix...but I'm not installing ALL those dependencies to try and build the app to test it...
00:00:43 <Gizmokid2005> no way
00:01:20 <SergentSiler> lol
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00:12:05 <OliverK> Hello, pa_2147. Is there something that the PortableApps.com community can help you with today?
00:12:43 <pa_2147> If you have a U3 flash drive running their LaunchPad, what's the best way to install a PortableApps.com application on it? Would you just install it like a normal U3 app?
00:13:06 <daBomb69> No, you just run the Portableapps.com installer.
00:13:14 <daBomb69> And install it to the root of your drive
00:13:22 <pa_2147> There's a good possibility I'll be using the PA platform eventually, but my U3 drive gets here tomorrow so I figured I should at least give their LaunchPad a shot first.
00:13:51 <pa_2147> So you would still need the PortableApps.com platform installed?
00:14:13 <OliverK> to use the menu, yes
00:14:19 <daBomb69> Ya, to use the menu
00:14:27 <OliverK> but the menu is not a requirement to use the apps
00:14:38 <daBomb69> But, you could just install the applications to wherever.
00:14:39 <OliverK> and the apps will not show up in the u3 menu
00:15:03 <pa_2147> So there's no way at all to get PortableApps.com apps to show up on the U3 LaunchPad menu?
00:15:08 <daBomb69> Nope
00:15:18 <pa_2147> Ok, good to know.. would've fought with that one for a while tomorrow, lol
00:16:01 <pa_2147> The U3 LaunchPad doesn't seem nearly as configurable as the PA menu (that's what I'm using on my existing USB flash drive)
00:16:32 <OliverK> u3 has supposedly been on the way on, but I can't confirm it as I've seen little to no proof
00:16:37 <SergentSiler> daBomb69, not true
00:16:52 <daBomb69> SergentSiler, what?
00:16:55 <SergentSiler> i used to get the menu to autorun using the u3 menu
00:17:16 <pa_2147> that's the thing, everything I've read has been saying that the StartKey will eventually take over, but the most recent post I can find that talks about it is a year old
00:17:18 <SergentSiler> smithtech developed a shortcut creator for that
00:17:20 <daBomb69> We're not talking about autorunning, we're talking about the apps showing up in the launchpad
00:17:28 <SergentSiler> it does that
00:17:33 <SergentSiler> i manually set it to autorun
00:17:37 <pa_2147> I figure if U3 is here for at least a while, I'll try it
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00:17:57 <pabot> Whibo is a portableapps.com user
00:18:03 * SergentSiler searches for u3 shortcut creator
00:18:31 <pa_2147> So I could still install the PA platform and tweak my autorun to launch it instead of the U3 LaunchPad, but still have the U3 password protection in place?
00:18:47 <SergentSiler> unfortunately no
00:18:48 <SergentSiler> http://usb.smithtech.us/projects/shortcut_creator.php
00:18:57 <SergentSiler> it will only utilize the u3 menu
00:19:15 <pa_2147> *sigh*
00:20:11 <SergentSiler> meh. :P
00:20:57 <SergentSiler> that tool will allow you to add and optionally autorun apps from the u3 menu
00:21:39 <pa_2147> Cool, I shall bookmark that for tomorrow. Should give me something to do at work :P
00:21:51 <SergentSiler> :D
00:21:54 <pa_2147> Hopefully that's when the drive will show up...
00:22:23 <pa_2147> Even having this IRC channel setup for support, makes me want to stick with PA even more. I'm so surprised more companies don't do this
00:22:37 <SergentSiler> :)
00:22:49 <pa_2147> Sure I get flashbacks to 10 years ago, but there are still practical applications for irc
00:23:22 <pa_2147> Anyways, I'm going to get back to reading here. Thanks a lot for the help!
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00:29:24 <JohnTHaller1> hola
00:29:26 <SergentSiler> ello JohnTHaller1
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00:30:36 <JohnTHaller> there we go
00:30:39 <JohnTHaller> how goes it in here
00:31:00 <OliverK> hey JohnTHaller
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00:32:18 <daBomb69> Hi JohnTHaller
00:32:25 <iNom> hey guys :)
00:32:26 <OliverK> ben . . .
00:32:31 <iNom> i know im using mibbit T_T
00:33:04 <daBomb69> :O Ben=Mibbit :O
00:33:15 * iNom cries
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00:34:59 <pa_3649> hi
00:35:05 <daBomb69> Hi pa_3649
00:35:12 <daBomb69> How can we help you today?
00:35:33 <pa_3649> this is my problem
00:35:36 <pa_3649> http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=42057&start=0
00:36:02 <pa_3649> yesterday i was here and have the same problem
00:36:14 <SergentSiler> that looks like a problem with VLC itself and not the portable version specifically
00:36:18 <daBomb69> What is the problem?
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00:36:29 <OliverK> http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=42057&start=0#p131541
00:36:34 <OliverK> try his suggestion
00:36:36 <JohnTHaller> When VLC is up, your monitor won't got to sleep. VLC is built that way
00:36:37 <pa_3649> monitor does turn off in 15 min
00:36:50 <OliverK> but not if VLC is running, it disables it
00:36:54 <pa_3649> even when i close it
00:37:00 <OliverK> !?
00:37:05 <SergentSiler> its meant to do that
00:37:25 <pa_3649> when i close the program
00:37:39 <pa_3649> no movie running
00:37:52 <pa_3649> had to delete it
00:37:53 <OliverK> hmm . . .
00:38:03 <JohnTHaller> after you close it, fully closed not minimized or minimized to tray, it should go back to normal. just be sure it's totally closed.
00:38:15 <pa_3649> totally
00:38:15 <OliverK> this is a problem with VLC, not or portiblization and you will need to ask them to fix these feature
00:38:36 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: its a bug with the app. Or at least posting on that forum topic seem to indicate so
00:38:41 <JohnTHaller> deleting won't affect it once it's closed (it can't technically). only not running it after rebooting.
00:38:43 <SergentSiler> or add / find away around
00:38:46 <SergentSiler> it
00:38:51 <SergentSiler> the feature that is
00:39:07 <pa_3649> there was the advanced pref
00:39:49 <JohnTHaller> So, yeah, it is a VLC bug either way and not something we can directly assist with. The VLC forum would be the place to go. I think the same behavious has happened with my PC before.
00:40:06 <pa_3649> with yours also
00:40:41 <pa_3649> ok
00:40:57 <SergentSiler> pa_3649, our version is basically a direct port of the original program and only modified to be portable so we cant help with this bug / feature
00:41:56 <pa_3649> do you have a similiar problem with the new flash player 10
00:42:13 <pa_3649> i had to back to 9
00:43:53 <pa_3649> any 1 there
00:44:08 <pa_3649> did my computer freeze
00:44:18 <iNom> no it didnt
00:44:27 <pa_3649> ok thanks
00:44:42 <iNom> im not sure about flash player...
00:44:58 <pa_3649> you should post it as a known bug
00:45:23 <pa_3649> in the download section of vlc
00:45:38 <iNom> well its a bug for vlc not the portable version
00:45:42 <iNom> vlc must deal with that
00:45:48 <pa_3649> ok
00:45:53 <pa_3649> thanks
00:45:57 <iNom> no problem :)
00:46:06 <pa_3649> :)
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00:53:00 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
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01:09:02 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :)
01:09:07 * JohnTHaller is now posting an NSIS patch for Windows 7 compatibility
01:09:12 <[ChuckNorris]> Hi TimClark
01:09:21 <[ChuckNorris]> Yay, NSIS patch
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01:09:29 <TimClark> drop the nick dabomb
01:09:30 <TimClark> ty
01:09:39 <daBomb69> Srry, forgot to change back
01:09:55 <TimClark> we never need chucknorris in the channel
01:10:24 <daBomb69> True...
01:18:02 <Whibo> i am the true chuck norriss
01:18:12 <Whibo> lol
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01:19:57 <TimClark> Whibo: stop now please
01:20:02 <Whibo> ok
01:20:06 <Whibo> sorry
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01:20:30 <pabot> OliverK thinks you should try Geany: http://portableapps.com/node/18669
01:20:36 <Whibo> :(
01:24:36 <Whibo> Who use Bpbible?
01:24:40 <JohnTHaller> why do ppl constantly screw with nicks?
01:24:45 <OliverK> ?
01:24:52 <OliverK> because its fun?
01:25:11 <JohnTHaller> replace fun with lame/annoying/newbish/etc :-P
01:25:13 <TimClark> yes, JohnTHaller , i know :-( I have a pm open with you, i need to ask you about something
01:25:41 <Whibo> becuase it's meaningfull in certain chans
01:25:55 * OliverK uses OliverK|Chowing for lucnh\dinner time. I think its more accurate the some away thing, as well as showing up better then a away message
01:26:08 <OliverK> mcninja is when i get ghost problems
01:26:08 <Whibo> yep
01:26:22 <Whibo> thats a good exemple
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01:28:07 <TimClark> nick changes that say you are away are ok within reason, complete changes are a distraction, confusing , and annoying
01:28:14 <OliverK> yes.
01:28:32 <OliverK> If I'm going to do that, I usually close out of a bunch of rooms, then come back
01:29:29 <Whibo> TIME
01:29:38 <Whibo> FINGER
01:29:48 <Whibo> VERSION
01:29:56 <TimClark> Whibo: stop what ever it is you are doing
01:30:10 <Whibo> what you see it?
01:30:15 <TimClark> It is not welcome
01:30:23 <Whibo> you see it?
01:30:33 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Whibo: we see that you made the request like this
01:30:36 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> [21:29:33] Channel CTCP VERSION request from Whibo [n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com] (VERSION), replied
01:30:47 <TimClark> Did you do something or not, yes, don't do it, what I saw would just enourgh you
01:30:51 <Whibo> ooo
01:30:58 <TimClark> that is rude
01:31:16 <TimClark> The game playing in this channel WILL stop
01:31:21 <Whibo> ok
01:31:25 <Whibo> ooo
01:31:49 <Whibo> I'll come back tomorow :(
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01:33:34 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: NSIS 2.44 Windows 7 Patch 1 by PortableApps.com: http://portableapps.com/node/19013
01:34:39 <TimClark> Who here is using Win7 ?
01:36:30 <SrgSiler|AFK> i uninstalled mine since my hardware was less than adiquite
01:36:33 <SrgSiler|AFK> :/
01:37:25 <TimClark> Could those who are using Win7 help JohnTHaller and give him feedback please
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02:02:10 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: I'm hoping to finally have a solid good release of kvirc 4 soon....i talked to the devs today, and it was a good thing too...they didn't know that the registry entries were being created on every launch of KVIrc, which was was TF and CM were reporting
02:02:35 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> they have commited a fix to their SVN, so I'm just waiting for the main dev of win32 builds (CtrlAltCa) to compile it and I'll give it a test
02:02:41 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> if it works, my current launcher should be set
02:04:16 <TimClark> Good for you Gizmokid2005|AFK , by the way, you type very well without a keyboard :)
02:04:31 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> TimClark: thanks and I know, I've been practicing :)
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02:40:44 <daBomb69> Hi Twinkletoes|W
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02:43:45 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
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02:44:21 <Bensawsome> hey PatrickPatience :)
02:44:45 <daBomb69> PatrickPatience is not away :O :D
02:44:51 <Bensawsome> for once xP
02:45:20 <PatrickPatience> I could be.
02:46:05 <Bensawsome> lol
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02:57:19 <JacobMastel> HOla
02:57:21 <JacobMastel> How's it going?
02:57:29 <daBomb69> Hola JacobMastel
02:57:38 <daBomb69> And
02:57:40 <Bensawsome> ohai JacobMastel ^_^
02:57:41 <daBomb69> Adios
02:57:42 <Bensawsome> and
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02:57:45 <Bensawsome> :P cya
02:57:51 <Bensawsome> lol too late
02:58:24 <JacobMastel> Hey TimClark long time no see
03:00:52 <TimClark> hello JacobMastel , i was getting something to eat for my cat
03:05:06 <TimClark> And now am shutting down for the night, hope you All have a good one :)
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03:12:15 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
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04:09:55 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: new installer??
04:12:53 <JohnTHaller> yup
04:13:01 <JohnTHaller> 0.13.0 (2009-04-22): Automatically starts install when launched from menu. /AUTOCLOSE switch for when used from updater. Locale files now in separate directory. Config file now named example so current config isn't accidentally overwritten. Including the installer source in your package is now optional and off by default.
04:13:24 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Ohhh, very nice JohnTHaller
04:13:25 * Gizmokid2005|AFK likes
04:13:53 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> you had to just go and throw off my installer now didn't you?? Lol. I kid I kid. Nice release. I know it's just as late for you, and I"m off to bed, I'll think about updating tomorrow :)
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04:15:53 <JohnTHaller> you can use your -0.12 config with 0.13
04:16:35 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Oohhh, even better! :D
04:17:05 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> thanks JohnTHaller :) you are just cranking out all the new cool features now :) but if I don't go and get some sleep, i"ll need to buy a new keyboard lol. good night
04:17:28 <JohnTHaller> yeah, I wanted it live for Firefox which I'm packaging now
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05:03:22 <JohnTHaller> 0.13.1 PortableApps.com Installer update
05:06:55 <JohnTHaller> make that 0.13.2
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05:43:03 <MaienM|Sleep> JohnTHaller: the title of the forum post still says 0.13.1
05:43:47 <JohnTHaller> thanks fixed
05:47:24 <MaienM|Sleep> JohnTHaller: also, completely unrelated to this, I have finished updating/fixing the twitter module for drupal, its available at http://mmfail.co.cc/download/Drupal/
05:49:35 <JohnTHaller> cool, got it
06:04:50 <MaienM|Sleep> JohnTHaller: I take it that any of the installer languages which are not used aren't included in the launcher either?
06:05:36 <JohnTHaller> It's not that specific
06:06:04 <JohnTHaller> Either included or not based on setting. You can remove ones you don't want if you choose to include installer source. But including the installer source isn't necvessary and is off by default
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07:09:13 <pa_4899> hi
07:10:04 <pa_4899> anybody can say, the office 2007 files can open in "writer portable" ??
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10:06:29 <TaffinFoxcroft> EMPTY.
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10:38:04 <littleg776> is there a way to get clamwin to start automaticly scaning the computer you plug your flash drive into
10:41:56 <littleg776> hello
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10:42:50 <littleg776> hello?
10:44:05 <littleg776> why is no one talking
10:45:29 <dbdii407> Bleh.
10:45:49 <dbdii407> In case you haven't noticed, mostly everyone is on away mode. ;)
10:46:38 <littleg776> is it possible to make clamwin auitomaticly start scaning the caomputer you plug your computer
10:46:53 <littleg776> and i dont know that much abt this chat
10:47:30 <dbdii407> If you want ClamWin Portable to automatically scan the computer when you put in your device, that won't be possible.
10:48:23 <littleg776> how abt when i start the platform app
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10:51:43 <dbdii407> On that note, i have to get ready.
10:51:51 <TaffinFoxcroft> maybe I should release ClamwinDropTarget...
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11:19:52 <Talisman> Hey TaffinFoxcroft
11:29:29 <TaffinFoxcroft> ohai Talisman
11:29:54 <Talisman> Didn't realise PortableApps had a channel on freenode
11:29:58 <Talisman> glad you mentioned it
11:30:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> there's not much activity besides for support, so show up if you need any =P
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11:32:45 <TaffinFoxcroft> this seems so empty compared to the python channel (600+ users)
11:33:17 <TaffinFoxcroft> and yet nothing is happening.
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11:39:55 <pabot> Oni-Neoxes is working on plenty of gaming videos on youtube! http://www.youtube.com/onineoxes
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12:25:44 <pabot> Suiseiseki is desu
12:27:43 <TaffinFoxcroft> desu!
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13:22:15 <itoru> sir?
13:22:22 <itoru> can some1 help me???
13:22:37 <itoru> i got error on my firefox :(
13:23:10 <itoru> grrrrrrrr
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13:26:50 <Bensawsome> lol
13:27:54 <Bensawsome> if he would bother to wait more then 1 minute....
13:28:44 <sar3th> yeah, i returned seconds after he left
13:28:50 <Bensawsome> :/
13:28:58 <Bensawsome> oh hey sar3th :D
13:29:00 <Bensawsome> lol
13:29:15 <sar3th> ohithar :D
13:29:19 <Bensawsome> :P
13:29:21 <Bensawsome> fgail
13:29:23 <Bensawsome> *fail
13:29:26 <Bensawsome> lol
13:29:49 <sar3th> D:
13:30:41 <Bensawsome> lol intertubez
13:32:43 <purple> http://www.fenrir-inc.com/us/sleipnir
13:33:04 <Bensawsome> >_>
13:37:03 <sar3th> we make use of badly translators
13:37:42 <Bensawsome> <_<
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13:56:42 <Bensawsome> mai tracking aint working D:
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14:04:19 <Bensawsome> lol fail: http://portableapps.com/node/17181#comment-117474
14:13:17 <sar3th> Bensawsome: fyi: steam actually is quite portable, it creates the registry stuff which it needs
14:13:37 <Bensawsome> ....
14:13:47 <Bensawsome> either way though we cant do it
14:13:50 <sar3th> yeah
14:13:54 <Bensawsome> and it uses the registry
14:13:59 <Bensawsome> so no it aint very portable :P
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14:28:18 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable at PortableApps.com and is also developing musicplay3000 the open-source media player inspired by foobar2000
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15:09:15 <purple> Ubuntu 9.04 Released: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
15:13:23 <purple> ..not that i endorse it in any way but..
15:13:37 <Bensawsome> lol\
15:14:28 <purple> lo/
15:14:43 <purple> To/
15:14:56 <purple> Yo/
15:14:58 <purple> heh
15:15:07 <Bensawsome> no spammin purple :P
15:15:23 <purple> no, i just drawing these little funny guys
15:15:24 <purple> :)
15:16:08 <purple> anyone use 7Zip 9 alpha?
15:16:12 <Bensawsome> :P
15:16:18 <Bensawsome> norly
15:16:25 <purple> im curious of ow lzma2 is better on lzma
15:16:46 <purple> also, 7zip rockz!
15:16:52 <purple> winrar fails
15:19:12 <purple> anyone has a good movie to recommend?
15:19:16 <sar3th> 7z 9 alpha?? o0
15:19:23 <purple> yah
15:19:39 * sar3th is curious, please provide a link
15:20:17 <purple> sar3th, prolly 7zip.org or wtf
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15:21:16 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :)
15:21:33 <TimClark> Bensawsome: Hi, may I ask you a questiong ?
15:24:16 <purple> *Bensawsome listens
15:26:14 <TimClark> /back in a few
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15:26:36 <sar3th> purple: i cannot find anything concerning 7z 9 alpha on the 7z.org homepage :S
15:26:44 <sar3th> see you TimClark
15:26:45 <purple> sar3th, sec
15:27:03 <purple> sar3th, http://www.softexia.com/news.php?readmore=3630
15:27:12 <sar3th> thanks
15:27:16 <purple> np
15:41:45 <purple> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Problematic_extensions
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16:08:53 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark, ZachThibeau, et al
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16:16:35 <JohnTHaller> hola
16:19:41 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
16:20:31 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
16:20:54 <ZachThibeau> not bad, just killing forum spam and blog spam on my personal site
16:24:48 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
16:26:33 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
16:26:41 <Gizmokid2005> I see you posted a new revision of the installer
16:27:46 <JohnTHaller> yup. couple bugs needed fixin
16:27:55 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: should I apply your patch to nsis portable?
16:30:38 <JohnTHaller> Sure. Do a new release with it. We're gonng be using that patch in official releases.
16:30:45 <JohnTHaller> It's in FFP 3.0.9
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16:32:28 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I noticed that the dev for KVIrc had said he was working on a new build to test the issue I brought up with reg entries, but I don't see where it's posted, so I'm still waiting for that, then I'll make sure the installer is updated and everythign :D
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16:32:54 <JohnTHaller> ok
16:33:21 <Gizmokid2005> I did talk with them yesterday regarding the non-commercial tag and they said there's no way to remove it from the stable V3 build.
16:33:43 <Gizmokid2005> so that's just going to have to get scrapped, I'll leave the PR3 up and going for those who want to use it, but I'm going to focus solely on V4 now.
16:35:38 <JohnTHaller> they have an eta on 4?
16:37:01 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: no, not yet, while it's still a pre-beta release, it's as solid as V3 was. I've been using it for more than 2 months now, and I've not had any issues with the app itself, I haven't found any broken features or anything. They are very good with their test builds.
16:40:17 <JohnTHaller> tell em to hurry it up and we'll show it to lots and lots of ppl
16:42:19 <Gizmokid2005> lol, I know. I'm excited for it, I really am. It would be the first /official/ PortableApps.com IRC app :D
16:42:55 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: explain
16:43:08 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: which part?
16:43:18 <TimClark> first /official/
16:43:34 <JohnTHaller> we don't have any straight irc clients atm tim
16:43:37 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: there have been a few irc clients, x-chat is the first one that comes to mind, that have made it to PR
16:43:44 <TimClark> or do you mean first officall irc only app
16:43:46 <JohnTHaller> pidgin and mirand can do irc... but aren't optimized for it
16:43:46 <Gizmokid2005> and pidgin/miranda aren't /really/ irc apps
16:43:49 <Gizmokid2005> exactly
16:43:57 <Gizmokid2005> so kvirc would be the first official IRC app
16:43:57 <TimClark> gotcha
16:45:06 <TimClark> /bbs
16:55:39 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: I would like to clarify a point for some of our users. At times I see folks say that an app can't be made portable because it writes to the registry
16:55:55 <TimClark> A few of our apps do write to the registry, that is why the settings are backed up and deleted deleted on exit. The problem only occurs when the app needs to write to areas that only an admin has right to, like HKLM, correct
16:56:57 <JohnTHaller> correct. and those apps are few and far between
16:57:51 <Gizmokid2005> kvirc will write to the rgistry if it has permissions, ie admina dn power user, but if it's a limited or guest account it only writes to the standard HKU
16:58:34 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: And you're using the permission detector to handle those HKLM entries, too, right?
16:59:12 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: actually no. That's why I'm waiting on the dev team. KVIrc devs thought that it should ONLY be writing to the HKLM upon install, not launch.
16:59:25 <Gizmokid2005> so it was actually a bugfix I brought to their attention that I'm waiting to test.
17:00:25 <Gizmokid2005> there's too many dependencies for me to install and compile myself, so I'm waiting for their win32 dev compiler to compile a new binary so I can test for them. When it's fixed, the current launcher should work perfect, as KVIrc should NOT touch HKLM
17:03:24 <TimClark> "What is the easiest program to portablize?" http://portableapps.com/node/19023
17:03:27 <TimClark> If there was an still an easy one someone would have done it already :O [Gizmokid2005 :p ]
17:04:56 <ZachThibeau> well I suppose I could get him to portablize musicplay3000... only if it had an audio core -_- (I need to get on that soon :/)
17:06:26 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: :P
17:06:28 <sar3th> mingw is pretty simple :D
17:06:42 <Gizmokid2005> VIrc is pretty easy too, I'd imagine
17:06:44 <sar3th> msys is a bit more tricky though
17:07:38 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I think you mean KVirc :P
17:07:55 <TimClark> and if it were easy he would be done with it already
17:08:15 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: no, VIRc
17:08:30 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: http://www.visualirc.net/
17:08:38 <ZachThibeau> ohh ok
17:08:54 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: a quick question. TMW checks for its config files itself, and creates them if needed. Because of this, having the DefaultData directory and the code with it is kinda useless. Would it be alright to leave this out, even though it is part of the PAF format specification?
17:09:46 <JohnTHaller> Just have it there and blank
17:10:03 <JohnTHaller> Nowhere is it required that you have config files in there and move em. We have other apps tht do that too
17:11:51 <MaienM> alright :)
17:21:30 <TimClark> John, i like your comment on the ads, I use NoScript which sometimes will block ads but I have never used it for that purpose, as long as the ads are not Flash Based or Bouncing balls I have never had a problem with ads, I even told the mibbit folks that the ads in the widget were fine with me
17:21:44 <TimClark> http://portableapps.com/node/18990#comment-117636
17:22:43 <JohnTHaller> yeah, i never got that mentality
17:22:56 <JohnTHaller> i block ads, but i let in text ones. even click on em occasionally
17:23:19 <purple> http://www.tweakguides.com/Firefox_10.html
17:23:22 <TimClark> now a BIG add , in a bad spot, with lots of movemnet, that's an other story
17:24:04 <TimClark> purple: care to tell us about it ?
17:24:05 <sar3th> lol there are ads on pa.com?? i don't block any ads and i never noticed them
17:24:24 <TimClark> sar3th: they are pretty subtle
17:24:29 <purple> TimClark, i thought link says it all :)
17:25:06 <JohnTHaller> sar3th: they're purposely buried so as not to be distracting. But them and the donations pays our hosting usually
17:25:19 <TimClark> was there a particular tweak in FF you wanted us to see purple
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17:25:41 <sar3th> JohnTHaller: yeah, it's very well done :)
17:25:44 <purple> TimClark, not really, all of those are usable let say
17:25:50 <andreasma> hi
17:25:54 <TimClark> ok
17:27:04 <sar3th> hello andreasma
17:27:23 <purple> i used several from that page, nothing exploded or caused black hole :)
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17:29:00 <purple> also, installed NOD 4 today, looks pretty good and lightweight
17:34:34 <purple> even has antispyware protection
17:38:35 <TimClark> Windows Defender is updating to: 1.57.181.0
17:38:52 <andreasma> howdy sar3th
17:38:53 <TimClark> opps, sorry, wrong tab, my bad :(
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17:48:01 <Damastah> the http://portableapps.com/node/14868 ,Creating A Portable App: A Guerilla Field Guide seems incomplete
17:48:12 <Damastah> can someone help me with that?
17:49:00 <Gizmokid2005> Damastah: what do you need help with?
17:49:16 <Damastah> i got to the regshot page
17:49:24 <Damastah> and dont know wat to do with it
17:49:28 <Damastah> i hav 2 go
17:49:31 <Damastah> i'll b bak
17:49:35 <Damastah> 30 mins
17:49:39 <Damastah> sorry
17:49:49 <Gizmokid2005> Damastah: k
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17:53:12 <TimClark> time to search for book, later all
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17:54:36 <sar3th> updated version of MinGW Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18601
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18:17:36 <Gizmokid2005> off for food now, bbl
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18:42:48 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: PortableApps.com AppCompactor 1.1: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-04-23_-_portableapps.com_appcompator_1.1
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18:56:42 <MaienM> RELEASE: The Mana World Portable Pre-Release 4: http://portableapps.com/node/18809
18:57:05 <SergentSiler> kewl
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20:24:55 <Damastah> Damastah here
20:25:15 <Damastah> i hav about 10 minutes to see if i can portablize c-cleaner
20:25:39 <Bensawsome> search the forums. there is a portabler version their... oh and they have one on their website i think
20:25:40 <Damastah> can anyone help me? I already started on the Creating A Portable App: A Guerilla Field Guide
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20:25:55 <Damastah> i know, i want to learn how do it
20:25:58 <Bensawsome> *portable
20:26:08 <Bensawsome> oh well your not gonna do it in ten minutes
20:26:09 <Damastah> just for personal knowledge
20:26:14 <Bensawsome> it takes hours of work
20:26:16 <Damastah> i need 2 know how
20:26:19 <Damastah> i understand
20:26:29 <Damastah> i already got up 2 the regshot part
20:26:35 <Damastah> but thats where the tutorial stops
20:26:46 <Bensawsome> ya then you need to program it. which is the part that takes hours :/
20:27:05 <Damastah> are there any tutorials on how to do that?
20:27:09 <MaienM> well, it doesn't stop there
20:27:10 <Bensawsome> one sec
20:27:19 <Damastah> I dnt mind the work, i just need to know how
20:27:20 <Bensawsome> Damastah: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
20:27:22 <Damastah> thanx
20:27:23 <MaienM> "# Find a base launcher that deals with those issues. # Adjust the launcher to reflect the changes you need made # Compile, test, and adjust"
20:27:30 <Damastah> i saw that
20:27:38 <MaienM> well, thats the way to do it
20:27:40 <Bensawsome> like i said.. you cant do it in ten minutes :/
20:27:46 <Damastah> but...
20:27:49 <Bensawsome> and we cant tell you how in ten minutes
20:27:52 <Damastah> what does that mean
20:27:57 <Damastah> i know
20:28:03 <Bensawsome> well do you know nsis?
20:28:06 <MaienM> the already made launchers are the best learning source we have
20:28:07 <Damastah> nope
20:28:13 <Damastah> oh, ok
20:28:18 <Bensawsome> ok well you need to learn nsis foirst of all
20:28:26 <Damastah> ok
20:28:31 <Bensawsome> and looking at the source of our launchers is good like MaienM said :)
20:28:35 <MaienM> Damastah: if you have a portable app installed, look in the Other/Source directory in its directory
20:28:45 <Damastah> k...
20:28:51 <MaienM> in there will be something like (for example) FirefoxPortable.nsi
20:28:56 <MaienM> that is the launcher source
20:29:13 <Damastah> ok
20:29:45 <Damastah> so there are basic launcher sorces linked frm the tutorial?
20:31:21 <MaienM> yeah, step two has some
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20:32:16 <Damastah> but those are programs
20:32:23 <MaienM> yes
20:32:27 <Damastah> ok, im looking at the portable app installers
20:32:31 <MaienM> those are the installers of the portable apps
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20:32:42 <MaienM> when you install them, you will also have th source of their launchers
20:32:43 <Damastah> i'm gonna learn some NSIS and then see what i can do
20:32:47 <Damastah> thanx
20:32:50 <Damastah> ok.
20:32:56 <Damastah> thank you very much
20:33:02 <MaienM> you're welcome
20:33:08 <Oni-Neoxes> Ello all
20:33:10 <MaienM> and good luck on learning NSIS ;)
20:33:19 <Damastah> thanx
20:33:27 <Damastah> im 18 and on a mission :)
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21:32:43 <JohnTHaller> hola
21:33:06 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller :)
21:33:32 <ptmb> Hi JohnTHaller
21:33:39 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello JohnTHaller
21:33:51 <Oni-Neoxes> Nice Release of the App Compactor ^-^
21:36:21 <Gizmokid2005> welcome back JohnTHaller
21:36:49 <SergentSiler> wb jth
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21:37:50 <JohnTHaller> Like the new appcompactor?
21:38:13 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I installed it, haven't used it yet.
21:40:06 <purple> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/04/23/appetizer-open-source-portable-application-launcher/
21:40:51 <Oni-Neoxes> Im loving it!
21:41:15 <purple> eww, looks ugly as hell
21:41:29 <Oni-Neoxes> o-o
21:41:36 <purple> rocketdock ftw
21:41:38 <purple> :)
21:41:57 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I wanted to get the appcompactor out as I'm using it for the new filezilla, clamwin, winscp, miranda etc releases I'm doing now
21:42:18 <ZachThibeau> nice
21:42:42 <Bensawsome> kewl
21:42:44 <Oni-Neoxes> Whats the "for sure" apps I can use it on without destroying it
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21:42:56 <Bensawsome> Oni-Neoxes you mean offical.....
21:42:59 <Bensawsome> ones
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21:43:17 <Bensawsome> i thought they couldnt be used for any offical ones cause all of them are done to the max :/
21:43:32 <Bensawsome> *i thought it
21:43:39 <Oni-Neoxes> o-o
21:45:34 * Gizmokid2005 might make that launcher portable :D
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21:53:48 * purple fires up uTorrent and gone to bed
21:53:51 <purple> ta-da
21:54:59 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
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22:18:43 <Gizmokid2005> Additionally, if you are using the standard PortableApps.com folder structure (apps in "PortableApps" and documents in "Documents"), it should detect everything automatically.
22:18:46 <Gizmokid2005> now that's nifty
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22:20:46 * SergentSiler_ stabs AT&T
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22:34:22 <powerjuce> hello all
22:36:10 <Gizmokid2005> hello powerjuce
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22:36:25 <powerjuce> hey Gizmokid2005 wats up
22:36:32 <Gizmokid2005> everything above eye level D:
22:36:33 <Gizmokid2005> *:D
22:36:44 <powerjuce> hahaha...
22:36:47 * powerjuce slaps Gizmokid2005 around a bit with a large trout
22:37:43 <Gizmokid2005> lol
22:38:02 <Gizmokid2005> just working on wedding stuff, waiting to hear from a dev of KVIrc on a new windows binary for me to test
22:39:10 <powerjuce> sounds exciting
22:39:20 <powerjuce> whos getting married? u?
22:39:50 <Gizmokid2005> yep
22:39:52 <Gizmokid2005> .def
22:39:52 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is teh engaged man - who'll be teh married man on 3/20/10
22:40:21 <powerjuce> o wow congrats
22:40:34 <powerjuce> so are we all invited 2 the wedding? ;)
22:40:36 <Oni-Neoxes> wow. Congrats dude
22:41:27 <Gizmokid2005> lol
22:41:27 <Gizmokid2005> thanks
22:41:32 <Gizmokid2005> and nope :P
22:41:52 <Gizmokid2005> I don't think theres anyone around who really even lives close enough, and I'm going for a small wedding
22:42:28 <powerjuce> lol
22:43:16 <Bensawsome> .def
22:43:16 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome: Sorry, but I don't know you.
22:43:17 <Bensawsome> >_>
22:43:19 <Bensawsome> D:
22:43:20 <Bensawsome> lol
22:43:23 <Oni-Neoxes> .def
22:43:23 <GizmoBot> Oni-Neoxes: Sorry, but I don't know you.
22:43:27 <Oni-Neoxes> Shweet :D
22:43:28 <Bensawsome> .forget waffle
22:43:28 <GizmoBot> Who is that "waffle" you're talking about?
22:43:30 <Bensawsome> >_>
22:43:32 <Bensawsome> .....
22:43:51 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: look at the bot name...
22:44:11 <Bensawsome> ya i know Gizmokid2005
22:44:18 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
22:44:19 <Bensawsome> but i didnt know MaienM added a forget command
22:44:25 <Gizmokid2005> yeah... :D
22:44:35 <Bensawsome> and thats also why i didnt use a real name in forget xP
22:44:51 * Bensawsome installs new version
22:44:58 <Bensawsome> i think i have 1.2
22:45:40 <Bensawsome> ok this is really annoying.... ubuntu has updates every day -_-
22:45:42 <Bensawsome> lol
22:45:50 <Bensawsome> oh ya
22:45:56 <Bensawsome> plus 9.04 came out xP
22:46:16 <Bensawsome> hmmmm i wonder if you can upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to Xubuntu 9.04....
22:47:19 <powerjuce> Bensawsome: u can but its tricky
22:47:30 <Bensawsome> lol
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22:49:25 <powerjuce> .t utc
22:49:25 <GizmoBot> 2009-04-23T22:49:29Z
22:50:14 <Bensawsome> D: i upgraded and it erased the defs T_T
22:51:20 <Gizmokid2005> .t edt
22:51:20 <GizmoBot> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:51:24 EDT
22:51:22 <Gizmokid2005> :D
22:51:25 * Gizmokid2005 will brb
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23:00:15 <NathanJ79> Hello
23:00:30 <daBomb69> Hi NathanJ79
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23:01:45 <NathanJ79> First time using this chat, about to try to portablize my first program (or rather, make a launcher).
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23:06:50 <Damastah> is anyone using KVirc?
23:07:12 <Damastah> i cant send a msg on there by just typing
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23:07:25 <Damastah> is there something i'm not doing?
23:10:18 * Damastah confused about how to use KVirc
23:10:30 * Damastah is confused about how to use KVirc
23:12:21 <Roamer> Damastah: I do not use KVirc, not many online now do. In fact I'm not sure any online now do...
23:12:57 <Damastah> what do u use?
23:13:20 <daBomb69> Damastah, if you could wait a little bit, there is someone online who's usiong KVIrc, but he's afk at the moment
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23:14:36 <Damastah> well, I just want to know how to effectively get onto IRC
23:14:55 <Damastah> im on the online live chat rite now
23:15:12 <daBomb69> Ur in INC
23:15:21 <daBomb69> Oh, ur using Mibbit
23:15:47 <Damastah> yeah,
23:16:32 <daBomb69> Hold on, just finished installing KVIrc, let me check how it works
23:16:51 <Damastah> well, whatevr works,
23:16:59 <Damastah> u dnt have to go out of ur way
23:17:07 * daBomb69 wanted to do this anyway
23:17:21 * Damastah is greatful
23:18:15 <Damastah> also, what editor do you use 2 edit ur .nsh scripts
23:18:27 <Bensawsome> well Notepad++ is good
23:18:34 <Bensawsome> there is even a portable version ^_^
23:18:35 * daBomb69 uses Notepad++, but u could use any plain text editor
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23:19:46 <daBomb69_> Damastah: What couldn't you get to work about KVIrc?
23:19:57 <Damastah> when i typed, it sed raw
23:20:04 <Damastah> and that the command wasnt valid
23:20:15 <daBomb69> what did you type, and where did you type it?
23:20:21 <Damastah> i'm not trying to do all the scripting it keeps talking about
23:20:24 <Damastah> lemme c
23:20:28 <Damastah> at the botton
23:20:31 <Damastah> *bottom
23:20:44 <daBomb69_> It should be working
23:20:58 <Damastah> oh, ur in it now?
23:21:10 <daBomb69_> Yup
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23:21:28 <daBomb69_> It's working for me
23:21:47 <Damastah> i get [16:21:21] [RAW]: hello? [16:21:21] [simmons.freenode.net][421] Da-mastah hello? :Unknown command
23:22:01 <Damastah> unknown command
23:22:03 <ZachThibeau> thats because you need to learn IRC commands
23:22:24 <daBomb69_> So, did you just type Hello?
23:22:26 <ZachThibeau> to join a channel in any given irc server you need to do this /join #channelname before you can type
23:22:27 <Damastah> yup
23:22:35 <daBomb69_> Hello?
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23:22:45 <Da-mastah> ok im on
23:22:46 <daBomb69_> Oh, yeah, did you join any channels?
23:22:49 <Da-mastah> oh, duh
23:22:49 <Da-mastah> lol
23:23:00 <Da-mastah> i thot i had joined before
23:23:05 <Da-mastah> im good
23:23:11 <ZachThibeau> awesome then
23:23:17 <Da-mastah> thanx
23:23:18 <daBomb69_> Yay
23:23:33 <Da-mastah> lol, I love this forum
23:23:37 <ZachThibeau> daBomb69_: /nick daBomb69
23:23:51 * Da-mastah is off to learn some NSIS Scripting
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23:24:29 <Da-mastah> wow, they give out all your info when you log out lol
23:24:31 <daBomb69_> ZachThibeau: I'm still running XChat in every channel except this one. So can't quit
23:24:36 <Da-mastah> nick Damastah
23:24:41 <Da-mastah> oops
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23:27:53 <daBomb69_> KVIrc doesn't allow you to /join a channel with a ? in it's name :'(
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23:56:43 <Gizmokid2005> I'm here and not, I"m cooking so I'm around