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02:00:29 <Random_Nick> Wow... sooooooo quiet
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03:02:25 <dragonmage> Now if it had been Nearly_Random_Nick that would have been funny
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04:01:41 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is teh engaged man - who'll be teh married man on 3/20/10
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06:23:01 <pa_1016> can you use fl studio on PA
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08:30:42 <purple> are there any good portable notes app?
08:30:52 <purple> the sticky ones, to hang on desktop
08:32:27 <purple> oh, found PNotes :)
08:40:40 <purple> yeah, PNotes did the trick :) needed something to remember a show on National Geographic tonight ;)
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08:46:59 <TonyM> Hi is anyone aware if we can add new explore icons in the portable apps window ?
08:51:01 <TonyM> So I am a newbee and I would have thought that with the list of users on the right some people would see me
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08:52:38 <TonyM> Back again
08:52:40 <TonyM> Help
08:54:18 <TonyM> Gizmokid2010
08:54:34 <TonyM> Hi, I am a newbee, are you there ?
09:02:22 <TonyM> No ?, I am out of hear, will try again in US time maybe.
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11:41:14 <Bensawsome> lol people need to wait for more then a minute xP
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14:18:27 <Gizmokid2005> wewt!!
14:18:33 <Gizmokid2005> KVIrc fixed their reg entries!! :D
14:19:24 <purple> vboxok, i just set up fully my new portable Virtualbox :)
14:21:41 <purple> hmm, looks nice sort of, is there portable kvirc?
14:23:17 <Gizmokid2005> purple: yes
14:23:23 <Gizmokid2005> I'm putting out a new dev test today
14:23:26 <purple> i dont see it at PA
14:23:28 <Gizmokid2005> to include the new fix for that
14:23:32 <Gizmokid2005> purple: it's not official yet.
14:23:38 <purple> hmm, is it bhetter than xchat?
14:24:00 <Gizmokid2005> it's all a matter of personal preference...unlike xchat, it's not freeware, and it's much more stable on windows
14:24:08 <Gizmokid2005> plus it has windows/linux/mac builds, so it's all platform :D
14:24:31 <purple> hmm, does it have tabs?
14:25:07 <purple> also, i think InfraRecorder build needs to be updated
14:25:09 <purple> :)
14:25:31 <Gizmokid2005> purple: I'm not doing infrarecorder ;) and i don't use much other than the default interface...so idk if tabs are avail or not.
14:25:44 <purple> :\
14:25:52 <purple> so ur not a customizer eh?
14:26:10 <Gizmokid2005> not really
14:26:36 <purple> what a pitty
14:26:36 <purple> :\
14:26:41 <purple> its so much phun
14:26:44 <Gizmokid2005> *pity
14:26:45 <Gizmokid2005> :P
14:26:46 <Gizmokid2005> I know
14:27:30 <Bensawsome> >_>
14:27:52 <purple> o.o
14:29:17 <purple> umm, how come this text put in .ini doesnt remove spashscreens?
14:29:17 <purple> [InfraRecorderPortable]
14:29:17 <purple> DisableSplashScreen=true
14:29:17 <purple> AllowMultipleInstances=true
14:29:18 <purple> ?
14:29:35 <Gizmokid2005> purple: did you put the ini in the same folder as the launcher?
14:29:41 <purple> yup
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14:34:43 <Gizmokid2005> RELEASE: KVIrc Portable 4.0 r3183 Dev Test 3 (Pre-Beta Release): http://portableapps.com/node/18626
14:35:36 <Bensawsome> orly Gizmokid2005?
14:36:14 <Gizmokid2005> yes Bensawsome
14:37:04 <Bensawsome> lol
14:38:22 <purple> also, InfraRecorders sooms cant remember its previous position and size :\
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14:42:08 <Gizmokid2005> hello pa_9208, is there anything we can help you with?
14:47:24 <purple> 11mb? pff, xchat's just 1 :\
14:47:40 <Bensawsome> lol
14:47:57 <Bensawsome> you mean kirc purple?
14:48:20 <purple> kvirc's 11mb, yeah
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14:48:27 <Bensawsome> lol
14:48:34 * Bensawsome thinks Gizmokid2005's app got pwnt
14:48:37 <Bensawsome> oh gtg
14:49:07 <Gizmokid2005> purple: no it's not...
14:49:14 <Gizmokid2005> Download XChat Portable 2.8.6 Pre-Release 1 [7.6MB download / 37MB installed]
14:49:16 <purple> whats not?
14:49:19 <Gizmokid2005> xchat
14:49:27 <purple> oh, i dont use that one
14:49:28 <purple> :))
14:49:30 <Gizmokid2005> and KVIrc is about 7.5MB after I've packed it.
14:49:59 <purple> i use official one, 1mb ;)
14:50:06 <Gizmokid2005> official one?
14:50:07 <Gizmokid2005> from?
14:50:19 <purple> http://xchat.org/
14:50:21 <purple> :)
14:51:51 <Gizmokid2005> purple: You may use XChat for Windows for free for 30 days. If, after this time, you would like to continue using the product, you are required to register. Registration is a one time fee of $19.99 USD (US Dollars) which can be paid using the PayPal service below.
14:52:18 <purple> yeah, righttt..
14:52:21 <purple> :)
14:56:48 <purple> gtg, gf's coming.. ;)
15:02:01 <Gizmokid2005> I'll brb, gotta reboot to update my f@h client service
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15:09:34 <Bensawsome> :/
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15:24:40 <Gizmokid2005> I have returned! :D
15:24:42 <Gizmokid2005> GizmoBot!
15:24:43 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005!
15:24:48 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh*
15:25:41 <ve4jhj> wb Gizmokid2005
15:25:44 <Gizmokid2005> ty ve4jhj
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15:30:28 <Horusofoz> So whose in the house :)
15:30:34 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: quite a few of us :P
15:31:20 <Horusofoz> Gizmokid2005: Well that's a change - Normally there's a few in the room but fewer or none active
15:31:25 <Gizmokid2005> lol
15:31:43 <Gizmokid2005> well, I know I'm here, ve4jhj is here, ZachThibeau is around, so is Bensawsome, and purple was active, pa_9208 has been in ehre a while.
15:31:44 <Gizmokid2005> lol
15:32:01 <Horusofoz> any idea what happened to my hail?
15:32:08 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: pabot isn't here
15:32:15 <Horusofoz> oh?
15:32:21 <ZachThibeau> I'm kind of hear Gizmokid2005, I'm running around the house getting stuff down
15:32:22 <Horusofoz> sorry noob still :)
15:32:25 <ZachThibeau> **here
15:32:30 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: yeah well :P
15:32:30 <Horusofoz> lol
15:32:35 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: it's ok.
15:32:38 <ZachThibeau> in fact I got to go now
15:32:40 <ZachThibeau> ttyl
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15:33:21 <Horusofoz> catch uya
15:33:35 * excid3 yawns
15:33:47 <excid3> morning everyone
15:33:54 <Gizmokid2005> morning excid3
15:33:55 <Gizmokid2005> :D
15:34:02 <Horusofoz> morning from Oz :)
15:34:10 <excid3> haha
15:34:35 <Horusofoz> So I recently decided to get off my ass and start learning some of this stuff as I use the apps and thank everyone, give regshots where I can but don't really contribute as much as I'd like to considering I use PortableApps on a daily basis
15:35:00 <Horusofoz> So I went out and bought HTML, XHTML and CSS for dummes 6th edition for $50
15:35:04 <excid3> nice :D
15:35:06 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: don't feel bad, there are a lot of people who don't contribute at all...not to say they are ungrateful, but time is limited for a lot of people.
15:35:09 <Gizmokid2005> nice Horusofoz
15:35:14 <excid3> ouch, thats expensive
15:35:23 <excid3> check out half.com next time ;)
15:35:32 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: you could've gone here: http://w3schools.com
15:35:34 <Horusofoz> as I thought HTML would be a nice way to instorduce my way to coding
15:35:48 <excid3> yeah, next stop should be python :D
15:36:20 <Horusofoz> Gizmokid2005: I work 9 hour days, 5 days a week plus study at one night a week
15:36:39 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: my point, don't feel bad you don't contribute much
15:36:43 <Horusofoz> k
15:36:47 <Gizmokid2005> and that site would've saved you $50 lol
15:36:59 <Horusofoz> cheers
15:37:02 <Horusofoz> your right
15:37:03 <excid3> a book is always better than reading online IMO
15:37:09 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: yeah...for me it depends...
15:37:19 <Gizmokid2005> I like to be able to do the work while I'm learning it though, so the online tuts help a lot
15:37:24 <excid3> yeah, if im copying and pasting code from the online book, then its much more useful
15:37:30 <Gizmokid2005> it's easy to read, but being able to actually see it work...
15:37:35 <excid3> yep
15:37:40 <Horusofoz> I found the previous edition in PDF version illegally
15:37:44 <excid3> thats why i buy reference coding books
15:37:44 <Horusofoz> but figured
15:37:56 * excid3 has 15gb of e-books
15:38:16 <excid3> ive got 5gb of hacking pdfs and presentations from conferences :D
15:38:26 <excid3> now to find the time to read some of them...
15:38:28 <Horusofoz> since I want to learn this stuff to contribute to a 100% walk the line site I'd do things the right way
15:38:36 <Horusofoz> aint I a suckerO:-)
15:38:36 <Gizmokid2005> I've already got Visual studio, I want to learn C++ and python/perl now...
15:38:43 <Gizmokid2005> I can do VB and some html/css
15:38:47 <Gizmokid2005> and of course now, NSIS.
15:38:57 <excid3> Gizmokid2005, python will take you all of 15 minutes to learn :P
15:39:04 <Horusofoz> I want to learn HTML, XHTML, CSS, then NSIS then C++
15:39:07 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: yeah well, it's finding those 15 minutes :P
15:39:16 <excid3> yep, i hear ya
15:39:18 <Horusofoz> Is python seriously that easy?
15:39:35 <Gizmokid2005> from the little bit I've dealt with it with my bots, it REALLY seems like it
15:39:38 <excid3> yeah, plus it i can do all sorts of advanced topics without trouble
15:39:41 <Gizmokid2005> it seems VERY straightforward...
15:39:48 <excid3> let me put it this way:
15:39:58 <excid3> last summer, I started Keryx
15:40:02 <Horusofoz> Gizmokid2005: Key word = SEEMS :D
15:40:20 <excid3> I wanted it cross-platform so i picked up a reference book on python, in 2 months i wrote all of keryx without a problem including a GUI
15:40:31 <excid3> and I had never touched python before
15:40:38 <Horusofoz> I'm noobish enough to buy HTML, XHTML & CSS for Dummies :D
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15:40:48 <pa_5276> hi all
15:40:52 <excid3> hello
15:40:53 <Horusofoz> ello :)
15:40:54 <Gizmokid2005> hello pa_5276
15:40:58 <pa_5276> I've got a question
15:40:58 <Gizmokid2005> anything we can assist you with?
15:41:04 <pa_5276> yes ty
15:41:11 <pa_5276> uhm, i heard about a wallpaper swapper
15:41:18 <pa_5276> built in, right?
15:41:30 <pa_5276> how and where should i put the file with what name
15:41:31 <Gizmokid2005> yes
15:41:32 <Horusofoz> yesplus
15:41:44 <Gizmokid2005> in the X:\Documents\Pictures folder
15:41:51 <Gizmokid2005> name it portableapps_wallpaper.bmp
15:42:01 <pa_5276> ok ill try
15:42:09 <pa_5276> do i need te replug in my device then ?
15:42:15 <Gizmokid2005> then close, and reopen the menu and it should work
15:42:47 <Horusofoz> My net is shaped down till Sunday, there is a post explaining this really well, Gizmokid2005, excid3 can you link>
15:43:26 <excid3> im sure Gizmokid2005 is already on top of it :)
15:44:07 <Gizmokid2005> lol
15:44:11 <Gizmokid2005> I haven't looked, that's just how it works :)
15:44:18 <pa_5276> ty dudes it works !
15:44:19 <pa_5276> bb
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15:44:22 <Gizmokid2005> :D
15:44:27 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: what python book did you get?
15:44:43 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: http://www.amazon.com/Python-Essential-Reference-Developers-Library/dp/0672329786/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240587887&sr=8-1\
15:44:43 <excid3> python pocket reference
15:44:45 <Gizmokid2005> ?
15:44:56 <excid3> nah that book is big
15:45:09 <excid3> er
15:45:13 <excid3> maybe thats the other book
15:45:13 <Gizmokid2005> lol
15:45:21 <excid3> there is two publisher that make books like what i go
15:45:22 <excid3> *got
15:45:35 <excid3> $4 if you get a used copy http://www.amazon.com/Python-Pocket-Reference-OReilly/dp/0596009402/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240587922&sr=1-1
15:46:03 <Horusofoz> what you 2 think of ubuntu?
15:46:23 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: thanks :)
15:46:30 <Gizmokid2005> I'm going to get one, and start working on it then :D
15:46:32 <excid3> Horusofoz, use it every day
15:46:42 <excid3> Gizmokid2005, no problem, its great for very little $$
15:46:58 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: it looks like it
15:47:04 <excid3> i seem to be the python guru around here so if you've got any questions lemme know
15:47:15 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: that you are, so I will
15:47:19 <Gizmokid2005> I'll probably order that today.
15:47:20 <excid3> my google summer of code project will be in python too
15:47:27 <excid3> i cannot wait for summer
15:47:49 <Gizmokid2005> awesome :D
15:48:21 <excid3> yeah, a package manager for windows is going to be so hot
15:48:37 <purple> package manager for windows?!?!??!
15:48:40 <excid3> and im going to build a backend for Keryx so that it can work with it
15:48:47 <excid3> yes purple, thats my GSoC project
15:48:54 <purple> whow it works?
15:49:00 <excid3> http://excid3.com/blog <- last post shows my application to GSoC
15:49:22 <Horusofoz> I shelled out $85AUD on some items on Amazon or eBay once and never received :( So I think I'll stick with Aussie auppliers eg Dymocks - http://www.dymocks.com.au/
15:49:38 <excid3> ouch
15:50:00 <Horusofoz> With the ubuntu package manager
15:50:16 <Horusofoz> How do I completely remove Evolution and replace with Thunderbird
15:50:40 <excid3> sudo apt-get remove --purge evolution
15:50:42 <excid3> um
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15:50:43 <GizmoBot> sar3th hates the american date format -_-
15:50:54 <excid3> be careful though, i think that evolution is tied to Gnome
15:50:59 <Gizmokid2005> hello sar3th
15:51:02 <excid3> so trying to remove evolution might try to remove gnome...
15:51:03 <Horusofoz> I'm hoping I can use ScheduleWorld.com to sync my Win (Local and portable) and Ubuntu installs
15:51:06 <sar3th> hello Gizmokid2005
15:51:17 <Horusofoz> sar3th: I agree
15:51:58 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: any other ref. books you recommend?
15:52:39 <excid3> Gizmokid2005, python documentation online is all
15:52:43 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: k :)
15:52:47 <excid3> ive got a bunch of python pdf's if you like
15:52:55 <excid3> i can upload them to my website for you
15:53:06 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: yeah, if you want to, I can DL and store them for later use
15:53:19 <Gizmokid2005> I'll probably order this reference from amazon today, since I have a gift cert to there
15:53:49 <purple> excid3, nice project :) very usable :)
15:53:51 <excid3> ive got unlimited storage/bandwidth so i can just leave them up
15:53:51 <Horusofoz> To the Americans - Get with the program - Convert your dates, adopt the metic system and change the name of the world series to USA Series :p jk But I do agree with Sar3th - Causes me headsches often
15:53:57 <purple> is there any for Arch? :)
15:54:03 <excid3> purple, thanks, im stoked to start working on it
15:54:37 <purple> you could sell usb sticks with it :)
15:54:38 <excid3> any what for arch? a package manager?
15:54:41 <excid3> or
15:54:44 <purple> excid3, yeah
15:54:57 <excid3> pacman is arch's package manager
15:55:03 <excid3> then they have a wrapper for it called yaourt
15:55:05 <excid3> its freakin sweet
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15:56:00 <purple> i know but this offline version of manager would be hot
15:56:01 <purple> :)
15:56:01 <Horusofoz> Hope I didn't offend
15:56:36 <excid3> yeah, im going to try to get a plugin working for arch after I get the debian/ubuntu one working fully (with installation) in ubuntu
15:56:57 <excid3> and whenever WinLibre is finished up, ill make a plugin for that too
15:57:14 <excid3> started rewriting Keryx from scratch the last couple of nights, definitely much more simplified code...
15:57:29 <Horusofoz> Evidently was a lame joke - apologies
15:57:30 <excid3> i took a 50+ block of code for loading plugins and made it into a two liner :D
15:58:36 <Bensawsome> >_>
15:59:05 <Horusofoz> Not familiar with that symbol - what does it mean
15:59:21 <Bensawsome> <_<
15:59:33 <Horusofoz> aww cool just saw what keryx is
15:59:55 <Bensawsome> orly?
15:59:59 <Horusofoz> what's the chances of Ubuntu including it in the main disttribution
16:00:06 <Horusofoz> orly?
16:00:46 <Horusofoz> oh really? - http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/orly
16:01:22 <Bensawsome> =_=
16:01:27 <Horusofoz> K country roll call?
16:02:14 <Horusofoz> Australia here - South Australia - The driest state on the driest continent on earth and yet its raining here in adelaide :D
16:02:34 <Horusofoz> **raining atm
16:02:38 <Bensawsome> lolololol
16:02:43 * Bensawsome has usa
16:02:45 <Bensawsome> lol internet
16:02:52 <ve4jhj|feedingTe> Canada - Manitoba
16:03:01 <excid3> alright, back to coding, ping me if you need anything
16:03:02 * Gizmokid2005 is USA
16:03:18 <excid3> Gizmokid2005, ill upload those files if i can figure out where they are at
16:03:42 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: k
16:03:44 <Gizmokid2005> no hurry
16:03:48 <Gizmokid2005> just lmk when you find them.
16:03:56 <excid3> will do
16:05:36 * Bensawsome pings excid3
16:05:38 <Horusofoz> excid3: I can't find the python pdfs on your site :( - http://www.excid3.com/
16:05:38 <Bensawsome> hehehehe
16:06:13 <excid3> Bensawsome, i hate you
16:06:21 <excid3> Horusofoz, hold on a sec, ill upload them :)
16:06:23 <Bensawsome> ^_^
16:07:08 <Horusofoz> gosh those are harsh words :'(
16:07:09 <Horusofoz> :p
16:07:14 <Horusofoz> brb
16:07:21 * Bensawsome lol'd
16:08:40 <excid3> haha :P
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16:10:17 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
16:10:19 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
16:10:24 <SteveLamerton> Hi Gizmo
16:10:36 <SteveLamerton> * Gizmokid2005
16:10:54 <Gizmokid2005> :)
16:11:16 <SteveLamerton> .seen JohnTHaller
16:11:17 <GizmoBot> SteveLamerton: I last saw johnthaller at 2009-04-23 21:42:00 UTC on #portableapps
16:11:30 <SteveLamerton> Cheers GizmoBot
16:11:46 <sar3th> heya SteveLamerton
16:11:49 <Bensawsome> >_>
16:11:51 <SteveLamerton> Hi sar3th
16:11:55 <Horusofoz> And I'm back
16:11:59 <SteveLamerton> Hello Bensawsome, Horusofoz
16:12:00 <Horusofoz> hey Steve :)
16:12:06 <Bensawsome> ohai SteveLamerton ^_^
16:12:35 <Horusofoz> How are you going with Toucan?
16:12:37 <excid3> Horusofoz, Gizmokid2005 uploading, another 2 mins or so
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16:12:42 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: k
16:12:43 <Horusofoz> cool cool
16:13:51 <SteveLamerton> I was hoping to see John here, Toucan 2.1.0 is finished, I am just sort of a few translations, but no one seems to want to do them so I am tempted to go for release and put a request in the news story for new translators
16:14:11 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: that's good news (the release that is) :)
16:14:23 <Gizmokid2005> I got a new release of KVIrc too, they fixed the registry entries so everything is golden there :D
16:14:33 <Horusofoz> Need an Australian translation :)
16:14:48 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: I did it :D I got WxMediaCtrl to respond to open files :D
16:15:36 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Thanks, I noticed you had an update one, nice one :)
16:15:41 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: Wooooo!
16:15:57 <SteveLamerton> Horusofoz: Pretty close to the default British English I think ;)
16:16:10 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: yw. and thank you! :) I'm glad to see it going forward, and I don't have to do anymore coding to handle registry entries :D
16:16:17 <ZachThibeau> I can do the elmer fudd translations :P
16:16:46 <SteveLamerton> I am really looking for http://portableapps.com/node/18904
16:17:15 <Gizmokid2005> wow SteveLamerton, you have a LOT that you need :(
16:17:20 <Gizmokid2005> it's too bad you have so many still :(
16:18:10 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005: Yeah, they are ~85% done, it is just the last few
16:18:30 <sar3th> SteveLamerton: so you need a translation of the Words with a cross?
16:18:46 <excid3> enjoy Gizmokid2005 Horusofoz, http://excid3.com/downloads/python-ebooks.zip
16:18:57 <excid3> 20M worth :)
16:18:59 <Gizmokid2005> thanks excid3, dling now
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16:19:09 <excid3> let me know what speeds you get
16:19:13 <Gizmokid2005> not too bad of a host, only 800K/s
16:19:13 <Gizmokid2005> :(
16:19:17 <sar3th> hello pa_6672, how can we help you?
16:19:30 <excid3> not bad, its dreamhost
16:19:40 <pa_6672> is it possible to install apps such as ms office or corel draw or am I limited to apps listed on the site?
16:19:50 <SteveLamerton> sar3th: Yep
16:20:03 <Bensawsome> no it isnt pa_6672
16:20:20 <pa_6672> is there an application that I could use like that?
16:20:34 <Bensawsome> well there is openoffice.org portable :)
16:20:37 <ZachThibeau> OpenOffice.org Portable does what MS Office does :P
16:20:38 <Bensawsome> on our site :)
16:20:38 <Horusofoz> on my shaped tight down (Used all 25gb till sunday:'(:'(:'() I have on average 6.7 kb
16:21:25 <pa_6672> thanks
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16:22:17 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: no, not bad. I get 1.2M/s from mine, it has a 10Mbit port to the world, so that's right :D
16:22:27 <excid3> awesome
16:22:36 <excid3> mine is shared hosting so this is plenty good
16:22:40 <excid3> plus im capped at 300kb/s
16:22:50 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: yeah, so is mine
16:22:50 <excid3> so i couldnt ever tell what the max is :P
16:22:58 * Bensawsome has 30mb/s interwebz :D
16:23:11 <excid3> i also paid $10.24 for two domains and a years worth of unlimited storage/bandwidth
16:23:19 <Gizmokid2005> I have a 16M connection, and I've managed to DL at 2.2M/s if it's allowed (typically from MS)
16:23:28 <Bensawsome> :P
16:23:31 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: that's not bad at all, I only paid $35 for a year hosting for me :D
16:23:41 <excid3> cool
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16:23:44 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
16:23:45 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
16:23:46 <JohnTHaller> hola
16:23:48 <excid3> mine goes back up to normal price after this year
16:23:58 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller :)
16:24:02 <excid3> howdy JohnTHaller
16:24:13 <SteveLamerton> Hi JohnTHaller
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16:25:54 <Horusofoz> hello John Haller Ji
16:26:50 <JohnTHaller> How goes it in here?
16:27:23 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: good, general chitter chatter about programming and whatnot, not a whole lot. I got KVIrc updated and they fixed the registry entries, so it's one more step closer to being ready :D
16:27:47 <JohnTHaller> I've been dealing with m2 in a topic... anyone with thoughts on this? http://portableapps.com/node/5634#comment-117704
16:27:56 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: I have a dilemma, the programming for Toucan 2.1.0 is all finished, but I am missing these translations: http://portableapps.com/node/18904 However no one seems to want to translate them, they have been up over a week, and I dont want to delay the release too much more
16:28:29 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: I wish he took my advice of leaving if he had nothing constructive to say ;)
16:29:01 <SteveLamerton> Cheers sar3th :D
16:29:39 <JohnTHaller> SteveLamerton: Yeah, we should really setup a translation mailing list to ping translators for stuff
16:29:52 <JohnTHaller> Don't think I'm being unreasonable SteveLamerton?
16:30:11 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I think he needs to just get bent, honestly.
16:30:21 <Gizmokid2005> he's being a bull-headed prick (sorry for the language, but it's true)
16:30:33 <Horusofoz> Gizmokid2005: Agreed
16:30:33 <Gizmokid2005> he just wants to be right in an argument that he can't win...
16:31:06 <JohnTHaller> I'd be happy to be wrong, honestly. Or for him to suggest a better approach or additional features.
16:31:11 <Horusofoz> Basically, in my view arguing for the sake of arguing. He doesn't actually articulate a point that I candetect
16:31:12 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Nope, not at all, he has annoyed me for a long time, if he really doesnt like it so much why does he hang around?
16:32:05 <Horusofoz> Don't like it, don't buy it. OSS= Don't like it, don't DL it.
16:32:17 <sar3th> Gizmokid2005: agreed
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16:33:09 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I say you just give him a kick in the pants, he seems to be more of a troll than an actual contributing user...\
16:33:14 <JohnTHaller> There is a small contingent of which m2 is a member that doesn't like the way PA.c or the way I work. They don't like the splashes. They don't like that we repackage software that they think is portable enough. They don't like the fact that I refused to allow freeware on PA.c for a long time. And they don't like that I can be an ass when pissed off :-) Most of them hang out over at portablefreeware.com... so that site ha
16:33:44 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I dont remember him ever contributing something useful :(
16:34:24 <SteveLamerton> He may have done, it just gets buried in negative comments!
16:34:33 <Bensawsome> what is wrong with this guy.... :/
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16:34:44 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: you got cut off
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16:34:55 <JohnTHaller> He did do an older version of VirtualBox at some point
16:35:04 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: what got cut off, my long post?
16:35:06 <Gizmokid2005> but I agree, almost anywhere you go, you are going to run into the idiots like that...
16:35:08 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: yes
16:35:12 <Gizmokid2005> om... so that site ha
16:35:12 <MasterGeese-> hi
16:35:15 <Gizmokid2005> that's where it ended
16:35:15 <Bensawsome> so that site....."
16:35:21 <Bensawsome> hello MasterGeese- :)
16:35:22 <Gizmokid2005> hello MasterGeese-
16:35:27 <Bensawsome> need anything?
16:35:49 <JohnTHaller> Oh ok... the post split is...
16:35:49 <MasterGeese-> i need a little help for making a simple portable app
16:36:01 <Gizmokid2005> MasterGeese-: ask away.
16:36:06 <JohnTHaller> There is a small contingent of which m2 is a member that doesn't like the way PA.c or the way I work. They don't like the splashes.
16:36:07 <JohnTHaller> They don't like that we repackage software that they think is portable enough. They don't like the fact that I refused to allow freeware on PA.c for a long time. And they don't like that I can be an ass when pissed off :-) Most of them hang out over at portablefreeware.com... so that site has a decidedly anti-PA.c bent to it.
16:37:00 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: there we go....and that doesn't surprise me....but there's nothing we can really do about it...except let those users know that they are acting basically as trolls
16:37:11 <MasterGeese-> i just need to have a base launcher that redirects the Path
16:38:26 <MasterGeese-> am i in the right place ?
16:38:40 <Gizmokid2005> MasterGeese-: yeah, have you looked at the portableapps guerilla field guide?
16:38:41 <Bensawsome> well i can tell you making a portable is never simple :/
16:39:19 <MasterGeese-> yes i have seen some source of some app but usualy i gett an error while compiling
16:39:42 <Gizmokid2005> MasterGeese-: then you'll have to track down the error and correct it to compile.
16:39:42 <JohnTHaller> MasterGeese-: What are you trying to portablize... and what, specifically, do you need to do to get it working?
16:39:42 <MasterGeese-> i tried recompile the sorurce jaust for test and i get the follwing error
16:39:45 <MasterGeese-> w8
16:42:44 <MasterGeese-> i try to make my trillian astra portable it usualy write the data in C:\Documents and Settings\...\my documents
16:43:12 <MasterGeese-> i also tried to modify the settings in the dafult ini file but don't seem to work
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16:44:51 <Gizmokid2005> sorry about that guys.
16:45:16 <MasterGeese-> well i'm newbie in this
16:45:52 <Bensawsome> MasterGeese- are you sure you have all of the reqired plugins for nsis?
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16:46:21 <Horusofoz> thanks excid3 - my download just finished :D
16:46:44 <MasterGeese-> i got many of the right now and tried recompile teh source of known app and is ok
16:46:49 <excid3> no problem Horusofoz
16:46:51 <SteveLamerton> sar3th: Would you like to just give you the name sar3th in the About Box?
16:46:58 <excid3> ...i just tried to tab complete the word "problem"
16:46:59 <excid3> :(
16:47:08 <sar3th> SteveLamerton: yes, that's fine for me
16:47:22 <SteveLamerton> sar3th: Ok, excellent, thankyou :)
16:47:27 <SteveLamerton> I have to go now, bye all!
16:47:37 <sar3th> see you SteveLamerton
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16:47:54 <sar3th> so MasterGeese-, what's your current problem? does you launcher compile now?
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16:49:25 <MasterGeese-> yes it compile but of course i amd esome errors coz i used the source od the VirtualMagnifyingGlassPortable but maybe is not the right one to start with
16:49:45 <MasterGeese-> sry for my typing errors
16:50:52 <MasterGeese-> wich programa i need to download ? i mean wich one has the source betetr for my app
16:52:01 <Bensawsome> well it depends
16:52:08 <Bensawsome> and also canm you give us the errors?
16:52:17 <Bensawsome> MasterGeese- go to pastebin.com
16:52:36 <Bensawsome> and paste the errors their, submit it, and then give us the link
16:53:40 <MasterGeese-> thanks i ll try work little more on my app , nice site pastebin.com
16:54:46 <MasterGeese-> ok i ll come back tomorrow if i still have some troubles
16:54:49 <MasterGeese-> bb
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16:55:05 <Bensawsome> :/
16:55:12 <Horusofoz> brb
16:55:12 <Bensawsome> and he doesnt let us help him... ok :/
16:55:38 <Bensawsome> mme lol'd
16:57:34 <JohnTHaller> Ok... back to our regularly scheduled programming
16:57:36 <Horusofoz> I'm back :)
16:58:00 <Bensawsome> lol
16:58:44 <Horusofoz> JohnTHaller: I've typed a slightly long winded response to your earlier question bout m2 and the like if you are willing to lend your.. eyes I guess?
16:59:33 <Horusofoz> why or n
17:00:08 <Horusofoz> **that's meant to be a "yes" or "no"
17:00:41 <Horusofoz> Auto complete can be so helpful yet so annyoing at the same time:)
17:00:48 <Bensawsome> lol
17:01:20 <Horusofoz> is that a no:(
17:02:15 <Horusofoz> ahh screw it - If y'all think me a fool so be it - that's the beauty of freespeech aye :D
17:02:32 <Horusofoz> JohnTHaller: Myself, I don't like that we don't have freeware support. But that is due to my own impatience. Freeware support will be a great thing but one must accept that it will come when it's ready as with all things.
17:02:40 <Horusofoz> I say "we" because I feel you develop PortableApps.com in a democratic manner giving an end user like myself a feeling of ownership. I realise freeware app support is delayed because you are looking for a way to do this 100% legally and with PA's future in mind.
17:02:52 <Horusofoz> Therefore the people at PF.com's site can either grow up and realise you are aiming for a sustainable business plan or simply leave their mumblings to themselves. I am against ignoring critical feedback, as I feel it is the best way to improve, but m2's and other's of the aforementioned "contingent" need to realise they will not improve anything by sniping from the sidelines. Be active. Join in the discussion and contribute to a b
17:02:57 <Horusofoz> To quote Carl Jung "We cannot change anything unless we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses.". I feel this relates as the "contingent" simply snipes rather than offering practical solutions. eg. m2's script to remove ad's from PortableApps.com pages. There is the option to turn off splashes from apps as m2 has complained aboutso what is the purpose of his grumbling?
17:03:07 <Horusofoz> Let the flaming begin :D:D:D
17:03:44 <Bensawsome> lolololololololololl
17:03:47 <sar3th> Horusofoz: you got cut off ("Join in the discussion and contribute to a "
17:04:10 <Horusofoz> Join in the discussion and contribute to a better way of doing things rather than simply say "That aint right".
17:04:19 <Horusofoz> To quote Carl Jung "We cannot change anything unless we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses.".
17:04:24 <Horusofoz> feel this relates as the "contingent" simply snipes rather than offering practical solutions. eg. m2's script to remove ad's from PortableApps.com pages.
17:04:31 <Horusofoz> There is the option to turn off splashes from apps as m2 has complained aboutso what is the purpose of his grumbling?
17:04:45 <Horusofoz> did that come thru?
17:04:53 <sar3th> yeah
17:05:00 <Horusofoz> cool
17:05:09 <Horusofoz> again... let the flaming begin :)
17:05:11 <Horusofoz> :p
17:05:21 <JohnTHaller> yeah, got it all, thanks :-)
17:05:32 <JohnTHaller> we're almost there on the first wave of freeware
17:05:45 <JohnTHaller> 0.13.x is another step since it adds automation.
17:06:00 <JohnTHaller> i'm still working on the installer generator which will make it a no-code situation for doing installers
17:06:08 <JohnTHaller> the generic launcher isn't quite there yet, though
17:06:24 <ZachThibeau> sounds cool
17:06:39 <ZachThibeau> anyways I think I nearly finished my media core for my music player :D
17:06:48 <sar3th> nice ZachThibeau
17:10:34 <Gizmokid2005> any thoughts on this: http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Pocket-Guide-Daniel-Barrett/dp/0596006284/ref=pd_sim_b_11
17:10:34 <Horusofoz> cool
17:11:21 <Horusofoz> have you tried this? http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntupocketguide.com%2F&ei=qPLxSeKzN5L0tQOA3Z3QCg&usg=AFQjCNGCz1FbAYu5XBZ7REhtg0L6I0mV3g
17:11:32 <Gizmokid2005> I might as well add another pocket guide so I make it over the $25 for free shipping at amazon
17:11:32 <Horusofoz> Sorry meant this - www.ubuntupocketguide.com/
17:11:54 <Horusofoz> I got it printed at Uni for $18 :)
17:12:05 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: this one?: http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-Pocket-Guide-Reference-Thomas/dp/1440478295/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240593120&sr=1-1
17:13:23 <Horusofoz> That's it
17:13:29 <Horusofoz> but $11 AUD
17:13:33 <Gizmokid2005> then that'll be the one I want
17:13:36 <Gizmokid2005> its $11USD too
17:14:27 <Horusofoz> Just checking you know - You can get the PDF for free - 100% legally
17:14:58 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm...where?
17:15:00 <Gizmokid2005> wait...
17:15:20 <Gizmokid2005> nvm
17:15:22 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
17:15:42 <Horusofoz> there you go :)
17:16:08 <Horusofoz> I downloaded and printed at work (University of South Australia)
17:16:11 <Gizmokid2005> I might as well buy them though, it's free (to me) rewards from a CC, so it's free money.
17:16:24 <Gizmokid2005> it's not going to kill me, besides I need to make up another $6 to get free shipping
17:16:47 <Horusofoz> K
17:17:11 <Gizmokid2005> I'm just trying to think what pocket references would be good for me.
17:17:18 <Horusofoz> Well just checked n at current exchange rates cost 7.93068 USD to print as all but front cover is B&W
17:18:40 <Gizmokid2005> I've got a C++ and Python pocket reference, then that ubuntu one
17:18:43 <Horusofoz> excid3: Just realised my download isn't finished :( 25% thru
17:18:54 <excid3> oh haha
17:19:02 <excid3> what is your speed?
17:19:03 <Horusofoz> :(:(:'(
17:19:12 <excid3> that's gotta be like dialup speeds :P
17:19:23 <Horusofoz> I'm too used to 1+MB download speed at work and home
17:19:58 <Horusofoz> now I'm out of bandwidth for 2 days and feel like I'm in the ninteties
17:21:23 <Horusofoz> I'm on ADSL2 but ran out of bandwith/downloads or whatever it is
17:21:46 <Bensawsome> :/
17:23:38 <Horusofoz> excid3: Aww %#(^!!! DownloadThemAll just screwed up and now DL restarted!! Can you leave up till Sunday 26th April for me to download as this is ridiculously slow atm.
17:24:03 <excid3> it should be up there permanently :)
17:24:08 <excid3> just remember excid3.com/downloads
17:24:27 <Bensawsome> lololololol
17:24:45 <Bensawsome> you want me to download it.... i haz 30 mb connection and can just put it on mai home server >_>
17:24:45 <Horusofoz> Cheers
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17:24:59 <Bensawsome> oh ok lol didnt bother reading XD
17:25:09 <Horusofoz> so anyone need an end user test of their app?
17:25:20 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: ;)
17:32:05 <sar3th> Horusofoz: more a dev :P
17:33:08 <Horusofoz> sar3th: Yeah So advanced I know HTML stands for Hypertext Markup Language. now just to learn how to use it :)
17:33:15 <Horusofoz> :P
17:33:51 <sar3th> Horusofoz: won't be enough :P i need ppl who want to compile stuff using mingw
17:34:25 <Horusofoz> lol
17:34:49 <Bensawsome> lol
17:38:24 <Horusofoz> Anyone else want a for dummies test on their app :)
17:38:41 <Horusofoz> free of charge :p
17:40:22 <Horusofoz> Ok limited offer for the next 30 seconds. Only $99 an hour to do a regshot :D
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17:47:29 <Horusofoz> nite fellas
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17:57:21 <AppGuy> Hey JohnTHaller I heard you were the Firefox guru
17:57:33 <JohnTHaller> wassup?
17:57:33 <Bensawsome> lol
17:58:35 <AppGuy> I have a problem with firefox, See: http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9794/firefoxproblem.jpg
18:00:58 <JohnTHaller> blank entry in your bookmarks or history somewhere
18:01:28 <AppGuy> Yeah but if I delete it it comes back and clearing history doesn't help
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18:12:21 <SteveLamerton> Hello again all
18:12:31 <powerjuce> wassup all
18:15:53 <excid3> hey powerjuce, SteveLamerton
18:16:18 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
18:16:38 <SteveLamerton> Hi powerjuce, excid3, ZachThibeau
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19:03:09 <andreasma> hi
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19:33:45 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: You've got mail ;)
19:34:56 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Actually ignore it, just spotted a broken portuguese file
19:35:46 <Bensawsome> lol
19:39:17 <SteveLamerton> Silence Bensawsome :P
19:42:42 <Bensawsome> :P
19:43:29 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: You got updated mail
19:43:36 <Bensawsome> lol
19:52:09 <Gizmokid2005> all - if anyone needs a new router this is a good one to get. I've talked with people from DD-WRT, and this is an amazing deal for it, and it's a solid router... http://www.ecost.com/Detail/Networking+Hardware/Linksys/WRT300/42312774.aspx?navid=155441530
19:53:26 * excid3 is interested
19:53:28 <excid3> :D
19:54:08 <excid3> page wont load for me
19:54:19 <Gizmokid2005> not atm for me either...
19:54:23 <excid3> and i say that and all of a sudden it does, im must be magic
19:54:37 <excid3> took me to ecost.com...
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19:55:32 <Gizmokid2005> grr
19:55:33 <Gizmokid2005> hang on
19:55:59 <Gizmokid2005> Linksys WRT300N (refurbished) on sale for $38 + s/h
19:56:01 <Gizmokid2005> that's what it is
19:56:03 <Gizmokid2005> it's not loading atm
19:56:06 <excid3> oh dang
19:56:11 <excid3> 300n is nice
19:56:16 <excid3> =D
19:56:17 <ptmb> Hi everybody!
19:56:22 <Gizmokid2005> yep
19:56:22 <excid3> hey ptmb
19:56:23 <Gizmokid2005> bbl
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19:56:33 <ptmb> Hi excid3
19:56:40 <SteveLamerton> I am off now guys, see you all soon
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20:44:26 <pa_8797> is there any way to make my usb autorun the suite except for windows asking me wht to do?
20:47:44 <pa_8797> ..
20:47:46 <pa_8797> .
20:49:26 <pa_8797> ...
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20:51:39 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8797: right now, no. IT's a windows "Security" feature
20:54:17 <pa_8797> is there any way to make the usb emulate a cd?
20:54:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8797: how so?
20:54:32 <Gizmokid2005> as in read-only?
20:55:35 <pa_8797> im not sure i just know tht U3 can emulate a cd so i was wondering if u could do it yourself
20:57:14 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not familiar with U3, I've never used it, so I'm not sure how it emulates a CD. Maybe one of the other members knows, but I do not. JohnTHaller?
21:07:55 <pa_8797> tnx anyway
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21:13:20 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark
21:13:36 <TimClark> hello gizmo
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21:14:26 <excid3> hi TimClark
21:14:28 <TimClark> hello Gizmokid2005 :) I see from my tab complete fail that GizmoBot is here
21:14:46 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: yep, since last night I believe...or this morning.
21:14:46 <TimClark> hello excid3
21:15:03 <excid3> how are you?
21:15:30 <TimClark> I've been reading the m2 discussion :( , sometimes you just want to scream
21:15:43 <excid3> yeah
21:15:46 <excid3> i know :(
21:17:37 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: I note the "Topic" [channel] has been changed, I can see it is different but not quite sure how?
21:18:21 <JohnTHaller> I simplified it a lil
21:18:47 <JohnTHaller> TimClark: Yeah, I know about the m2 thing. Something good came out of it in the end. There is a contingent that doesn't like PA.c and how we do things.
21:18:51 <TimClark> ah, ok, I guess that's why i can't "find" the differnece
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23:25:50 * Roamer fails...
23:25:52 <Roamer> :PP
23:26:08 <daBomb69> Ohai Roamer
23:27:09 <Bensawsome> >_>
23:27:18 <Roamer> <_<
23:27:34 * Roamer runs and tackles Bensawsome for no reason!
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23:33:08 <Horusofoz> Morning guys :)
23:33:18 <Roamer> Afternood Horusofoz.
23:33:19 <daBomb69> Hi Horusofoz
23:33:37 <Roamer> err afternoon... i typo'd
23:33:55 <Horusofoz> What's going on?
23:34:45 <Horusofoz> That much huh?
23:34:46 <Roamer> Nothing yet. So how is it in the (unless I be wrong) australian side today?
23:34:52 <Roamer> :P
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23:35:38 <Roamer> hi Havvy
23:35:49 <Horusofoz> Well here in Adelaide, South Australia its raining like h*ll despite the fact that we are the driest state on the continent on the planet :)
23:35:55 <Havvy> Hi
23:37:25 <Roamer> lol, its about 90 degrees farenheit here... and humid... so very humid...
23:37:33 * Roamer gags on the water in the air!
23:37:54 <Havvy> 50 degrees and not humid at all.
23:38:34 <Roamer> lucky... although it was 42 here yesterday... got to love that Ky, USA weather... :P
23:41:04 <Horusofoz> it's ANZAC day here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZAC_Day
23:41:18 * Roamer clicks...
23:43:42 <Horusofoz> It's actually a very solemn day with half the nation getting up for the dawn remembrance service
23:43:53 <Roamer> Ah.