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03:06:44 <Horusofoz> Hi guys
03:06:50 <Horusofoz> Quick question if I may
03:07:33 <Horusofoz> The Windows PowerSheel1.0 for Windows XP update - Anyone know if on actually needs this?
03:07:47 <Gizmokid2005> Horusofoz: I've never even heard of it
03:08:05 <Horusofoz> Same with the Microsoft Base Smart Card Cryptographic Servic Provider Package
03:08:12 <Horusofoz> Neither have I
03:08:32 <Bensawsome> the powershell is a thing for adminsitration across network with many computers
03:08:32 <Horusofoz> But being offered it by M$ update
03:08:42 <Horusofoz> So that's a no then:)
03:08:50 <Bensawsome> the smart card thing is only useful if your computer has a smart card slot :/
03:09:06 <Horusofoz> Probably not as I don't know what a smart card slot is
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03:09:21 <Bensawsome> Horusofoz laptop or desktop?
03:09:26 <Horusofoz> desktop
03:09:30 <Bensawsome> ok then you dont
03:09:36 <Bensawsome> err wait... hmmm
03:09:37 <Horusofoz> cool cool
03:09:40 <Horusofoz> Thanks guys
03:09:53 <Horusofoz> k
03:10:51 <Bensawsome> Horusofoz well here is what it is... http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid14_gci213004,00.html
03:11:17 <Bensawsome> well actually a desktop could ptoentially have a smartcard slot
03:11:47 <Horusofoz> that lik won't work for me so is it possible to tell me what it does
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03:12:34 <Horusofoz> K I don't gotta
03:12:42 <Horusofoz> Thanks again:)
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04:29:08 <Guest70985> I downloaded Portable apps but i don't need all the apps. how do i remove just 2 or 3 apps ?
04:30:18 <Gizmokid2005> Guest70985: just delete the folders in X:\PortableApps\
04:30:18 <Guest70985> help!
04:31:32 <Guest70985> But there is more apps then folders so how do i know witch folder to delete ?
04:31:47 <Gizmokid2005> Guest70985: there should not be
04:31:58 <Gizmokid2005> if you open the PortableApps folder it will list all the apps installed
04:32:04 <Gizmokid2005> in folders such as FirefoxPortable
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04:32:09 <Gizmokid2005> ThunderbirdPortable
04:32:10 <Gizmokid2005> etc etc
04:32:56 <Guest70985> I don't need Thunderbird, how do i remove it?
04:33:33 <Gizmokid2005> just delete the X:\PortableApps\ThunderbirdPortable folder
04:34:35 <Guest70985> I don't need keepass how do i remove it?
04:35:29 <Guest70985> how do i delete sudoku ??
04:35:43 <Gizmokid2005> Guest70985: same thing for each app
04:35:47 <Gizmokid2005> remove its folder
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05:14:46 <pa_6538> how do i uninstall apps from portableapps?
05:15:17 <Bensawsome> pa_6538 one second i will get you link on the site that explains it
05:15:24 <pa_6538> thanks
05:15:56 <Bensawsome> pa_6538: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#removingapps
05:15:59 <Bensawsome> there ya go
05:16:44 <pa_6538> thanks didnt realize it was going to be so easy.
05:17:02 <Bensawsome> :) np
05:18:19 <pa_6538> quick question about this chat. can everyone logged in to the right see what i am typing?
05:18:32 <Bensawsome> yes
05:19:12 <pa_6538> so you were the first one to respond or/and the only one....
05:19:18 <dragonmage> well everyone logged into the chat can
05:19:37 <pa_6538> ok got it. thanks
05:19:42 <dragonmage> yeah most people are here, but not really here
05:20:01 <Bensawsome> yep
05:20:17 <pa_6538> so im in the right place..
05:20:54 <dragonmage> yes, but you may not always get a response right away
05:20:54 <Bensawsome> if you come sometime during late night sometimes no one is here
05:21:04 <Bensawsome> yep
05:21:32 <Bensawsome> for example im about to go to bed lol
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05:23:42 <Bensawsome> lol internet
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09:16:05 <andreasma> hi
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10:12:04 <ChrisMorgan> Hellooo Havvy :-)
10:22:39 <Havvy> A belated reply, Hey.
10:23:36 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
10:25:03 <Havvy> :P
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10:32:45 <Horusofoz> Hi guys
10:32:51 <Horusofoz> Quick question
10:33:16 <Horusofoz> Is from html or xhtml? as opposed to ?
10:34:19 <ChrisMorgan> html. In xhtml is "recommended" as of semantical rather than styling thingies etc.
10:35:03 <Horusofoz> can you elaborate please
10:35:50 <Horusofoz> I;am starting to learn from a book and understand xhtml will eventually replace htlm completely so would like to use the xhtml tags
10:36:04 <Havvy> is definitely recommended.
10:36:11 <Havvy> XHTML will not replace HTML
10:36:45 <Havvy> HTML 5 is the spec that is currently worked on.
10:36:47 <Horusofoz> Would it be correct to surmise the tags allowed in the PA.com posts, eg <a> are all xhtml
10:37:01 <Horusofoz> html 5? When was that released?
10:37:04 <ChrisMorgan> and will work in HTML as well.
10:37:11 <ChrisMorgan> HTML 5 will probably never be "released"
10:37:26 <ChrisMorgan> XHTML 1.0 is the more commonly used doctype now.
10:37:29 <Havvy> It's currently in draft form, and more or less a buzz word for all the features being developed.
10:37:37 <ChrisMorgan> yeah, that's about it.
10:38:01 <ChrisMorgan> The tags are HTML and XHTML tags.
10:38:06 <Horusofoz> I understand the tags will still work in html but would like to learn the later ones so that I don't learn html then have to learn xhtml afterward.
10:38:34 <Horusofoz> Basically where there's tags in for a function in both languages I want to use the xhtml
10:38:44 <Horusofoz> so in this instance I'll use xhtml
10:38:45 <ChrisMorgan> People used to use and instead of and because they're shorter. However, and are recommended now as of semantic value - leaving decisions to the end user etc.
10:38:47 <Havvy> XHTML is merely an XML wrapper of HTML. Any tags in XHTML are found in HTML, other than the tags that declare xml.
10:38:48 <Horusofoz> thanks guys:)
10:38:53 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah
10:39:26 <Havvy> and are stylistic (good for forums and whatnot), and are semantic (good for site layout).
10:39:29 <Horusofoz> ummm now that I do need again to ask for further explanation
10:39:36 <Horusofoz> k
10:39:47 <Horusofoz> but "XML wrapper of HTML"?
10:39:49 <ChrisMorgan> XHTML just deprecates a few tags (most of which were deprecated in HTML 4.01 anyway) and makes it so that you have to close tags and provide proper attributes.
10:39:54 <ChrisMorgan> see my last line
10:40:41 <Horusofoz> K but xhtml will supercede html right?
10:40:47 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. in HTML you could do <hr noborder>, but in XHTML you'll need to do <hr noborder="noborder"/> (close the tag and provide content for the attribute)
10:40:52 <ChrisMorgan> who knows?
10:41:09 <ChrisMorgan> except noborder isn't right... I'm out of touch :P
10:41:33 <Horusofoz> I mean it's a wrapper for html but its likely to become its own fully fledged lingo?
10:41:50 <ChrisMorgan> It already is - saying it's a wrapper is a bit nasty to it :P
10:41:57 <Horusofoz> Or is it more like ubuntu as a "wrapper" for Debian?
10:42:01 <ChrisMorgan> It's HTML, as XML rather than just SGML.
10:42:08 <Horusofoz> same with ubuntu and debian
10:42:10 <ChrisMorgan> more stringent requirements.
10:42:14 <ChrisMorgan> No, not really.
10:42:25 <ChrisMorgan> U/D is a lot more complex than X/H
10:42:31 <Horusofoz> true
10:42:44 <Horusofoz> I mean where Ubuntu is built from Debian
10:43:13 <Horusofoz> Don't get me wrong I love Ubuntu, it's the first and only linux OS I've used>noob<
10:43:29 <Horusofoz> Anyway I think I'm getting ahead of myself
10:43:34 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, you are :P
10:43:44 <Horusofoz> I'll get back to my book and thanks for the help:)
10:43:58 <ChrisMorgan> XHTML will work in old browsers, and makes DOM stuff a lot easier.
10:44:05 <ChrisMorgan> noshade, that's it.
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10:44:31 <ChrisMorgan> In HTML you'd use <hr noshade>, in XHTML it'd need to be <hr noshade="noshade"/>.
10:45:19 <Horusofoz> K I'm gonna run b4 my curiousity gets my into a discussion on what DOM is and I don't finish this chapter. I'm supposed to be doing my hello world :D
10:45:54 <Havvy> DOM is how javascript and rendering engines interpret HTML.
10:52:34 <Horusofoz> Can one of you guys have a look at this please - http://pastebin.com/d3d2172bd
10:54:15 <Havvy> Would render in all browsers.
10:54:53 <Havvy> Except, you don't need type="text/css" in the body element.
10:55:31 <Havvy> Only need that in the <style> element, which you don't have.
10:55:42 <Horusofoz> even if it was full blown css?
10:55:56 <Horusofoz> its how the book lays it out
10:56:05 <Horusofoz> Might be just setting up for later
10:56:17 <Havvy> Nope, HTML isn't really all that complicated...
10:56:35 <Havvy> CSS isn't either.
10:56:58 <Horusofoz> cool
10:57:25 <Horusofoz> Well nothing is complicated once you know how to do it:)
10:57:44 <Horusofoz> For example Aussie Rules Footy or Go-Kan-Ryu
10:58:01 <Horusofoz> But I do find you comment encouraging
10:59:56 <Horusofoz> K ciao and thanks again
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13:40:13 <pa_5236> hi can anyone tell me if portableapps is password protected? So when you use it it asks a password before you can access all your personal files?
13:40:27 <Havvy> There is a program that can do that.
13:40:35 <Havvy> Keypass (portable) IIRC
13:41:42 <pa_5236> is that a program that peeps all your password or does it protect your USB flash drive from use by others?
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13:42:22 <Havvy> The latter.
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13:46:01 <pa_8680> I accidentally logged off...is keeps... a program that just keeps all your passwords save or does it protect your usb flash drive?
13:46:16 <Havvy> The latter
13:46:25 <pa_8680> ok thanks..
13:47:07 <pa_8680> sounds very nice this portableapps...i'll give it a go
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15:10:35 <Dtanny> ciao a tutti
15:11:00 <Dtanny> qualcuno puo' aiutarmi?
15:11:38 <Dtanny> "help!"
15:12:44 <ve4jhj> what can we help you with, Dtanny?
15:13:31 <Dtanny> ok
15:13:36 <Dtanny> thanks
15:14:16 <Dtanny> i don't know how disinstall applications from portableapp suite to update
15:14:46 <ptmb> Hi Dtanny, you can just delete the folder where the app is
15:14:51 <Havvy> Either install over it, or delete the whole folder and then reinstall.
15:15:15 <Dtanny> i try
15:15:17 <ptmb> and has Havvy said, the install will manage all things to do an update without having to deinstall the app
15:15:22 <Dtanny> thanks
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15:53:54 <pa_1511> which app is like adobe captivate??
15:57:38 <pa_1511> does anyone know what app is like adobe captivate
15:58:01 <ve4jhj> Salasga looks like it fits the bill, but it's in Alpha right now, and isn't currently portable. http://osflash.org/salasaga
15:58:55 <ve4jhj> Sorry, wrong website, here's the right one: http://www.salasaga.org/
15:59:04 <pa_1511> will that work in windows?
15:59:39 <ve4jhj> It will work in Windows, however, it IS Alpha, so you're at your own risk using it.
16:00:47 <pa_1511> thanks
16:00:52 <ve4jhj> you're welcome
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16:02:42 <pa_1511> sorry but the website says it does not work in windows. know of anything else similar
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16:11:35 <ve4jhj|AFK> you could try camstudio, there's a portable version here: http://portableapps.com/node/16708 or maybe wink, if that's what you're loking for, launcher is here: http://portableapps.com/node/11957
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16:15:40 <pa_1511> what does ati mean
16:16:43 <ve4jhj> do you mean AVI?
16:18:52 <ve4jhj> AVI is a video format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVI
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16:20:49 <ve4jhj> Hope that's what he was looking for
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16:25:35 <pa_6863> that was hoooooorrrrrrriiiiibbbbblllleeee
16:26:11 <ve4jhj> What can we help you with?
16:26:29 <pa_8059> is there a way to install portable apps that don't have the "paf.exe" at the end of the filename?
16:27:23 <pa_8059> do I just change the filename?
16:27:52 <Bensawsome> one second pa_8059 ill get you a link
16:27:59 <ve4jhj> Yes, as listed here: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
16:28:27 <pa_8059> thanks
16:28:28 <Bensawsome> lol ve4jhj got it first :)
16:28:36 <Bensawsome> and pa_6863 what is wrong?
16:28:37 <ve4jhj> you're welcome
16:31:07 <ve4jhj> pa_6863, can we help ypu?
16:31:09 <ve4jhj> *you
16:31:16 <pa_6863> waiting for link ben. thanks
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16:32:16 <ve4jhj> which link are you waiting for? the one Bensawesome referred to was the one i posted
16:32:45 <Bensawsome> oh pa_6863 i was talking to pa_8059....
16:33:00 <Bensawsome> what do you need help with though pa_6863?
16:33:49 <pa_6863> need something like adobe captivate
16:34:19 <Bensawsome> well what does it do? i have never used it before
16:34:46 <Bensawsome> oh its like screen capture
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16:35:03 <Bensawsome> well there is camstudio
16:35:11 <Bensawsome> there is a portable version on the forums i think
16:35:17 <Bensawsome> one second ill find the link for you
16:35:24 <pa_6863> it captures tutorials for different apps
16:35:49 <pa_6863> thats pretty bad
16:35:50 <Bensawsome> by doing screen captures/recordings right?
16:36:21 <Bensawsome> shoot the download for it is offline :(
16:36:24 <pa_6863> yup
16:36:58 <Bensawsome> well here is a previous one of it :) http://portableapps.com/node/16708
16:37:09 <Bensawsome> should work just as well
16:37:27 <pa_6863> i will try it
16:37:34 <Bensawsome> ok :)
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17:31:03 <PatrickPatience> Bow down before him.
17:31:38 * Roamer kicks Bensawsome in the groin so it seems someone bowed before PatrickPatience.
17:32:04 <PatrickPatience> Bahaha.
17:32:17 * Havvy curtsies.
17:32:28 <Roamer> :P
17:32:33 * Havvy has the state 'gender' with the value 'male'
17:32:40 <PatrickPatience> *chuckles* High five to both of you.
17:33:01 * Roamer pokes Havvy... "You got issues..." :P jk
17:33:10 <PatrickPatience> Where is pabot? He needs to stop sucking.
17:33:40 <Roamer> pabot's server status is crashed, last i heard.
17:34:43 <Roamer> we need a backup copy of pabot, not just a secondary bot...
17:40:04 * Bensawsome wasnt here when Roamer kicked him
17:40:06 <Bensawsome> :P
17:40:10 <Bensawsome> it was my mom GAWD
17:40:17 <Roamer> ?
17:40:24 * Bensawsome kicks Roamer in the groin with a knife tipped shoe
17:40:29 * Roamer kicks Bensawsome again then, since he is here now
17:40:32 <Bensawsome> :P
17:40:38 <Roamer> Ow!!!
17:40:38 <Bensawsome> i already kicked you :P
17:40:46 * Bensawsome goes away
17:40:54 * Roamer passes out from the pain and blood-loss
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17:48:55 <andreasma> hi
17:49:16 <Roamer> hello andreasma
17:49:33 <andreasma> howdy Roamer
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17:54:17 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is the engaged man - who'll be the married man on 3/20/10!
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17:59:00 <Gizmokid2005> hello all
17:59:15 <excid3> howdy
18:02:21 <Roamer> hi there
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20:28:15 <ZachT|AFK> TimClark: you mind dropping a line of welcome to this user http://portableapps.com/node/19058 :P
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20:32:52 <TimClark> ewww, he uses an "e" at the end :P
20:33:00 <TimClark> dbdii407: "Attempting to get Lightscreen Portable to capture anything" http://portableapps.com/node/19058
20:34:19 <dbdii407> Do you know how long it's been since i touched lightscreen?
20:34:48 * dbdii407 cannot remember. Oh well.
20:35:33 <TimClark> Oh well, so much for support :P
20:38:02 <dbdii407> http://portableapps.com/node/19058#comment-117857
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21:04:58 <SergentSiler> imma back :D
21:05:09 <dbdii407> Wonderful...
21:05:14 <AppGuy> yosa back
21:05:18 <SergentSiler> :D
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21:22:27 <JohnTHaller> hola
21:22:46 <SergentSiler> ello JohnTHaller
21:22:58 <Bensawsome> why hello there JohnTHaller
21:23:13 <daBomb69> Hi JohnTHaller
21:23:21 <TimClark> Hi JohnTHaller
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21:24:11 <JohnTHaller> how goes it in here?
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21:24:33 <TimClark> Fairly quiet
21:24:47 <daBomb69> Hi gluxon
21:25:03 <TimClark> Talking about smilies in -ot
21:25:03 <gluxon> Hi TimClark, daBomb69... others :D
21:25:07 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK
21:26:17 <JohnTHaller> I'm talking with my designer about what we're doing with the upcoming 100 million app downloads milestone
21:27:25 <TimClark> Do you mean like getting more/better resources ?
21:27:55 <Bensawsome> kewl! many downloads! :D
21:30:13 <JohnTHaller> um, what resources tim?
21:30:46 <JohnTHaller> things like some marketing in connection with it. giving away some drives. and announcing the opening up of the platform to freeware and commercial software. oh and win7 compatibility
21:31:14 <TimClark> just trying to guess what you might be talking to you designer about, more web space, other servers, i don't know, just guessing
21:31:29 <TimClark> ahh, I see
21:33:02 * TimClark guesses that ops/mods are out of the running for free flash drives :( :P
21:34:09 <SrgSiler|AFK> :P
21:34:25 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler
21:35:32 <JohnTHaller> Nope... t'll be open to all members and newsletter subscribers
21:35:51 <SergentSiler> :D
21:35:59 <daBomb69> :DD
21:42:50 <TimClark> Joke follows: But JohnTHaller if the Mods win one it will look like the fix is in :( , so maybe you should just give us one up front :P
21:45:26 <excid3> haha
21:45:35 <excid3> What's the download count at right now?
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22:29:19 <gluxon> Later.
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23:26:00 <Bensawsome> its quiet... too quiet =_=
23:26:09 <daBomb69> BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!
23:26:23 <Bensawsome> lol internet
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23:28:30 <TimClark> Bensawsome: it
23:29:05 <TimClark> Bensawsome: it's not bad when it's quiet if there is really nothing p-appsian to talk about is it
23:29:34 <TimClark> and you can check out more smilies in -ot for me if you like :P
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23:49:50 <SergentSiler> ello upnPAD
23:49:59 <daBomb69> Hi upnPAD
23:50:43 <upnPAD> hallohallohallo