IRC Log from 2009-05-08

00:01:46 <GurrenUs> .g phenny
00:01:46 <GizmoBot> GurrenUs: http://inamidst.com/phenny/
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00:09:54 <pa_4082> Got bumped off. Any ideas on why I keep getting "incorrect password" from pidgin when I am trying to login to AIM? I went on AIM directly and it did login just fine. Thanks.
00:10:14 <daBomb69> are you typing in the correnct username and password?
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00:11:34 <pa_4082> daBomb69: yes, I went directly to AIM and the same username/password worked just fine.
00:11:44 <daBomb69> weird
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00:12:10 <daBomb69> Are you still connected in AIM when u try to sign in using pidgin?
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00:14:02 <pa_4082> good question. at first I was but thought that might be a problem so I signed out of AIM and then tried pidgin again. same problem.
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00:39:21 <Bensawsome> .o twitter
00:39:23 <GizmoBot> <@Bensawsome> LOL I just downloaded Never Gonna Give You Up by RIck Astley onto my cellphone. From now on it is my ringtone. (http://twitter.com/Bensawsome/statuses/1732784730)
00:39:26 <Bensawsome> win
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00:44:47 <gluxon> Hi
00:45:01 <daBomb69> hi gluxon
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01:00:58 <gluxon> daBomb69: http://gluxon.tk/
01:01:07 <gluxon> Recoded the whole thing! :D
01:05:31 <daBomb69> gluxon, whats it supposed 2 do? (i have really bad connection, and its loading RWEALLY slowly)
01:06:07 <gluxon> ...
01:06:13 <gluxon> the site is les than half a meg.
01:06:36 <daBomb69> then either nothing happens, or my comp isn't able to DL an entire 1/2 meg
01:06:44 <Roamer> he not done daBomb69
01:07:00 <daBomb69> Well, it looks REALLY cooom
01:07:05 <daBomb69> *cool
01:07:26 <Roamer> typing fail
01:07:35 <daBomb69> yup
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01:23:47 <SrgSiler|sAFK> wb JohnTHaller
01:23:59 <daBomb69> Hi JohnTHaller
01:24:22 <JohnTHaller> howdy
01:24:24 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
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01:25:02 <AppGuy> how is everyone in here
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01:26:07 <JohnTHaller> busily working on the new PA.c installer
01:26:22 <AppGuy> looks really good so far
01:27:05 <JohnTHaller> you mean the INI file layout I posted?
01:27:23 <AppGuy> yes it wil be easier to edit
01:27:27 <AppGuy> *will
01:28:03 <AppGuy> Are yuo working with ChrisMorgan on a launcher?
01:28:06 <JohnTHaller> yeah. most apps you'll only need to edit the appinfo.ini with new versions, which'll be nice
01:29:03 <JohnTHaller> I've got a fully working minimalist NSIS compiler and all associated files included with the helper EXE that generates the code. I got NSIS down to 2MB.
01:29:14 <JohnTHaller> (no compression, just leaving out what we don't need)
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01:31:34 <AppGuy> very nice
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03:10:17 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is
03:11:16 <Bensawsome> no he isn't :P
03:12:05 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: don't bother contradicting a bot. They're always right (sometimes) ;-)
03:12:12 <Bensawsome> lol
03:12:46 <Bensawsome> anywho im off
03:22:26 <ChrisMorgan> s/anywho/anyhow?
03:24:16 <ChrisMorgan> Anyone with Vista: can you enlighten me about the ProgramData variable? Is it an environment variable %ProgramData%? Know any software which uses it? If so, what does it do on XP or earlier?
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04:24:59 <pa_7302> hey how do i delete aps
04:25:05 <pa_7302> any one know?
04:25:20 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7302: just delete the folder.
04:25:23 <pa_7302> anyone know how i delete apps
04:25:24 <Gizmokid2005> it's in the app support section.
04:25:26 <pa_7302> oh ok
04:25:30 <pa_7302> thanks
04:25:32 <pa_7302> allso
04:25:34 <pa_7302> also
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04:25:52 <Gizmokid2005> yes pa_7302?
04:26:04 <pa_7302> is there a sysinternals app
04:26:30 <ChrisMorgan> SysInternals apps work fine from a USB disk. They do, however, save their data to the registry
04:26:53 <pa_7302> oh ok cool thanks
04:27:16 <pa_7302> ok one last thing what about autoruns
04:27:32 <ChrisMorgan> yes?
04:27:57 <pa_7302> is there an app for it or do i have to just use it off the usb
04:28:09 <ChrisMorgan> Just download and run them.
04:28:18 <pa_7302> oh ok cool thanks
04:28:22 <pa_7302> cya
04:28:30 <ChrisMorgan> If you are concerned about what they store in the registry, take a look at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SysInternals
04:28:34 <ChrisMorgan> bye!
04:28:40 <ChrisMorgan> Have a nice day :-)
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04:41:56 <pa_0468> Is it possible to rearrange your apps in the apps menu?
04:42:40 <pa_0468> help
04:43:22 <ChrisMorgan> At the moment, you can put apps to the top or bottom.
04:43:44 <ChrisMorgan> To do this, right click on an app and there's an entry for putting it to the top or bottom
04:44:24 <pa_0468> If I right click It just prompts me to change the name of the app
04:45:01 <ChrisMorgan> Have you got the latest version of the platform, 1.5.2?
04:45:13 <pa_0468> yes
04:45:28 <ChrisMorgan> umm...
04:45:40 <ChrisMorgan> I've forgotten how to do it, I had it wrong, I'll just try to find it.
04:46:42 <ChrisMorgan> I'm ahead of myself again :P It comes in in 1.6.0 Pre-Release 0, which is available at http://portableapps.com/node/18859
04:46:49 <ChrisMorgan> If you like you can try that.
04:47:04 <ChrisMorgan> It displays like this: http://portableapps.com/files/forumimages/PortableApps.comPlatform1.6PR0.png
04:47:16 <pa_0468> Pre-release you mean a beta version?
04:47:36 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
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04:48:27 <pa_0468> also can you put folders into the apps menu?
04:48:40 <ChrisMorgan> Not at the moment.
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04:59:16 <ChrisMorgan> Hello pa_7402! Can we help you?
05:01:39 <pa_7402> you already did I just resigned on just incase I get another question
05:01:52 <ChrisMorgan> ok :-)
05:02:35 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7402: we ask because every time you sign in through the website, you get a different nick, so we can't tell if you are the same person or not offhand. :)
05:03:04 <ChrisMorgan> If you want to be different, select a new nick and type in "/nick newnick"
05:03:40 <pa_7402> ok
05:03:50 <Gizmokid2005> and replace newnick with what you want it to be
05:03:55 <Gizmokid2005> don't use 'newnick' lol
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05:04:12 <Ejem> lol
05:04:23 <Ejem> shh dont tell noone I almost did
05:04:27 <Ejem> lol
05:04:42 <dzjepp> Will the new pa platform have sorting in folders?
05:05:06 <ChrisMorgan> Not the next version.
05:05:11 <Ejem> or even drop out menus
05:05:15 <ChrisMorgan> 1.6 is due out soon, but it won't have that.
05:05:27 <dzjepp> I was hoping it would :<
05:05:30 <dzjepp> But I can wait
05:05:33 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller reckons that 2.0 may well have it.
05:06:17 <Ejem> well I'm pretty much excited with the version thats out now considering i just started like a week ago
05:06:52 <dzjepp> Is it safe to generally go from a preview release to a final? I mean installing it on top of each other
05:07:05 <Gizmokid2005> dzjepp: yep
05:07:10 <ChrisMorgan> yes
05:07:51 <Ejem> Chris, Could you tell me what your position is in the PA world. other than Q&A?
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05:08:15 <ChrisMorgan> I'm a developer
05:09:00 <Ejem> do you volunteer or is it a paid job?
05:09:11 <ChrisMorgan> BPBible Portable is currently my only official app, but I've got a few others around (such as Inkscape in Pre-Release and Code::Blocks in development).
05:09:15 <ChrisMorgan> We're all volunteers.
05:09:27 <ChrisMorgan> There's no money in it for us, yet anyway.
05:09:32 <Ejem> lol
05:09:57 <Ejem> well I appreciate all that your team has brought so far.
05:10:00 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller's sorting out commercial distribution, then you never know, there might possibly be vacancies at Rare Ideas (the parent legal entity)
05:11:18 <Ejem> So is there alot more than just changing program settings to make it portable?
05:11:39 <ChrisMorgan> Yes. We don't change the actual applications, we make wrappers.
05:12:19 <ChrisMorgan> So, for example, if an application writes to the registry, first we back up what's already there, then we put in the portable data, then run the program, then save the portable data, and finally put the backed up data back.
05:13:42 <Ejem> wow that looks a little complicating. I work deep into computers myself but I dont quit understand developing yet
05:14:41 <Ejem> Portable apps allows for a desktop background, do you ever see it refacing the whole computer as if it were your own? usb drive space alotted that is.
05:14:45 <Gizmokid2005> Ejem: if you don't mind my asking, what do you do?
05:14:57 <Ejem> I dont at all.
05:15:09 <Gizmokid2005> Ejem: computers just a hobby?
05:15:36 <ChrisMorgan> With some applications it's more simple: something like a command-line argument to set the data path. BPBible Portable works this way because I wrote some code for BPBible to make it support that :-)
05:15:56 <Ejem> unfortunatly I'm not in any electronics field. I'm cooking -.- but computers and electrician are a vision of the future
05:16:23 <Gizmokid2005> Ejem: ahh. If I'm too personal you don't have to tell me. That's a good field too :)
05:16:39 <Ejem> o no its fine
05:17:06 <Ejem> It is a good field, that is if cooking was to be my main interest
05:18:07 <Ejem> I am mostly a hardware person myself. but I'm great at maintaining my computers health and editing photos
05:18:36 <ChrisMorgan> I like working with hardware too.
05:19:03 <ChrisMorgan> I think as I get older and start work (I'm 17, in year 12) I'll probably be doing web development and hardware stuff.
05:19:52 <Ejem> sweet your 17 and already into your career. I'm 19 myself and wishing I was
05:20:34 <Ejem> Gizmokid what about you? do you develop too?
05:21:10 <Gizmokid2005> Ejem: don't feel bad. I just turned 22 this year. I want to do Accounting and/or Computers, but I haven't really found much in either one. I'm currently going to school for an Associates in Accounting/CIS.
05:21:38 <Gizmokid2005> I do develop, I'm not a published developer yet, but I am working on KVIrc Portable.
05:21:50 <Gizmokid2005> and currently working as a data analyst/IMS assistant..
05:22:47 <Ejem> crazy, all that math messes with me I understand basic algebra but when I got to alg 2 I got so lost
05:22:59 <Gizmokid2005> lol
05:23:10 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, I love accounting
05:23:31 <Ejem> I'm great with all kinds of math... if it isnt solving for problems without numbers
05:23:47 <Gizmokid2005> ahh yeah
05:23:49 <Gizmokid2005> well I'm off to bed
05:23:51 <Gizmokid2005> g'night
05:23:56 * ChrisMorgan <3 maths as well :D
05:23:57 <Ejem> graphing was as close as i got to understnading
05:23:59 <Ejem> gnight
05:24:04 <Ejem> lol
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05:24:09 <ChrisMorgan> goodnight gizmo
05:24:32 <Ejem> so why are you and I the only ones talking?
05:24:54 <Ejem> all those random names on the side
05:24:54 <ChrisMorgan> Because the others are away, busy or not interested, most likely.
05:25:03 <Ejem> ohh
05:25:18 <ChrisMorgan> I can sit here for hours without talking.
05:25:35 <Ejem> so how long have you been into this programming?
05:25:37 <ChrisMorgan> Some people are signed in all the time and only very rarely speak. I personally wonder why they bother...
05:25:53 <Ejem> lol
05:26:04 <ChrisMorgan> Dad brought us up young, and we've all been interested in programming... I was coding BASIC at maybe 8 years old?
05:26:16 <Ejem> damn
05:26:25 <ChrisMorgan> Please don't swear.
05:26:33 <Ejem> sorry, my mistake
05:26:37 <Ejem> wont no more
05:27:06 <Ejem> my dad was military so I was pretty much a lone wolf learner
05:27:22 <ChrisMorgan> I first found out about PortableApps.com in June 2005 due to an article in a magazine (which wasn't too inaccurate :P) and I started developing things late 2006/early 2007.
05:27:48 <Ejem> was stuck with dial-up till about 13 or 14 years old.
05:28:06 <Ejem> so you already got your experience building up XD
05:28:58 <ChrisMorgan> We had dialup till I was about 10 when Dad finally got tired of using Remote Desktop (or maybe it was pcAnywhere at the time) across a dialup connection...
05:29:14 <Ejem> lol
05:30:12 <Ejem> So are there any new apps in the works right now?
05:30:32 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look at http://portableapps.com/development/test!
05:30:49 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/development/test
05:30:56 <Ejem> lol
05:30:58 <ChrisMorgan> (Sorry, Mibbit included the ! in the url)
05:31:21 <Ejem> i was like 404 not found, and I noticed the ! before returning
05:31:22 <Ejem> lol
05:32:57 <Ejem> I see you got C++ in the works.
05:33:31 <ChrisMorgan> I work on Code::Blocks Portable, which is a C++ IDE
05:34:45 <Ejem> do you have a projected release date?
05:35:33 <ChrisMorgan> Not really. It's waiting for other members of the Release Team to look at it... and no-one else is looking at it; we're a bit stagnant at the moment, haven't gained enough momentum.
05:36:34 <ChrisMorgan> It works fine though. It's perfect unless you've got a local installation of MinGW as well as a portable one, in which case it'll use the local one (which is of course a /very/ minor issue, and I've fixed it in my copy, but it's not enough to justify another release)
05:37:15 <Ejem> ahh
05:37:44 <Ejem> Do you know what the game N is? author: Metanet Software?
05:38:00 <ChrisMorgan> I don't understand what you're asking?
05:38:34 <Ejem> "N" Is the title of a game. Made by Metanet Software.
05:38:53 <ChrisMorgan> Then no, I don't
05:40:59 <Ejem> Well it's a pretty exciting sideview game that contains 100 premade levels and its own level creation tool. It's a great app that I'm surprise you guys don't have on your site. It doesnt even require installation.
05:41:26 <ChrisMorgan> Where is it?
05:41:40 <Ejem> If you want to try out the game it's here. http://www.brothersoft.com/n-by-metanet-software-81695.html
05:42:27 <ChrisMorgan> Hey, it looks like just about the only type of game I like... :-)\
05:42:41 <Ejem> ??
05:43:08 <ChrisMorgan> I'll just check up on its license though. Probably it's disqualified for the moment as non-open-source
05:44:15 <Ejem> I'm not sure If this is even the most up to date version. I just searched it to redownload it
05:44:29 <ChrisMorgan> No, it's no go.
05:44:36 <ChrisMorgan> It's freeware, and Flash-based.
05:45:01 <Ejem> really? I though you used freeware?
05:45:20 <ChrisMorgan> No, all our apps are open source rather than freeware
05:45:32 <ChrisMorgan> Flash things can't really at all easily be done if they save data, and licensing means you can't distribute it with Flash. So it's no go.
05:46:01 <Ejem> aww. is that why it wont appear in my apps list?
05:46:17 <ChrisMorgan> Probably.
05:46:27 <ChrisMorgan> If you have a copy of Flash, you can make an executable out of it normally.
05:46:50 <Ejem> no i don't :(
05:47:25 <ChrisMorgan> Then how can you run it?
05:48:01 <Ejem> are you talking about the flash runner? or the flash programmer?
05:48:10 <ChrisMorgan> Runner.
05:48:30 <ChrisMorgan> It's normally in the main menu somewhere.
05:48:40 <Ejem> oh, Then I'm just not knowledgeble enough to do that. lol
05:49:54 <Ejem> hmm... oh well, I play Little Big Planet too much to play N anymore anyways lol
05:50:26 <Ejem> oh I found it in my apps menu now lol
05:51:48 <Ejem> Honestly though I feel like theres alot of customization features missing from PA.
05:52:37 <ChrisMorgan> Remember that it's currently all free-time stuff.
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05:53:29 <Ejem> yeah, I just wanted to put that out there.
05:53:57 <ChrisMorgan> And there's a lot of other stuff that happens too. For example, legal things, arranging software/hardware partnerships, getting more than $11,000 per year to pay for the hosting of PortableApps.com.
05:54:12 <ChrisMorgan> Many people ask for more. Unfortunately they can't understand all that happens.
05:54:36 <Ejem> wow... 11,000?
05:54:55 <ChrisMorgan> Yes. We have millions of users, after all.
05:55:11 <ChrisMorgan> Isn't it convenient that the figure is impressive ;-)
05:55:18 <Ejem> very
05:55:48 <Ejem> I wanted to ask if you were serious about the millions, but i didnt want to insult you.
05:56:07 <ChrisMorgan> I'm perfectly serious.
05:56:35 <ChrisMorgan> Millions of people use the PortableApps.com applications, and more millions use the website...
05:57:01 <Ejem> but millions? thats a huge number.... is that just downloads or users or???
05:57:15 <ChrisMorgan> users.
05:57:37 <Ejem> I'm scared to know the number of downloads lol
05:58:30 <ChrisMorgan> Take a look at http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=151265&ugn=portableapps&type=prdownload
05:59:35 <ChrisMorgan> 250,000 in just the last week.
05:59:41 <Ejem> wow
05:59:48 <Ejem> 1/4 mill
06:00:00 <ChrisMorgan> That is of everything, but ah well.
06:00:20 * ChrisMorgan hates the fact that sourceforge's stats server is so patchy
06:00:49 <ChrisMorgan> In all time, 44,741,058 - http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=151265&ugn=portableapps&type=prdownload&mode=alltime&package_id=0
06:01:15 <Ejem> wow
06:01:49 <Ejem> and yall arent asking for 1 cent out of any user.
06:02:08 <ChrisMorgan> No.
06:02:34 <Ejem> that was more of an observation lol.
06:02:42 <ChrisMorgan> whoops... my figures are out of date: another 200-odd people have downloaded things since my figure...
06:04:38 <Ejem> how many people are working on the portable apps progam? and is everyone working on it from home?
06:05:51 <ChrisMorgan> John T. Haller (JohnTHaller in here) is the lead developer and manager. He is in control of it all. We have atm about 60 applications, and maybe 10-15 official developers?
06:07:23 <Ejem> did John make the program?
06:07:37 <ChrisMorgan> Which program?
06:07:43 <ChrisMorgan> The Platform is made by him.
06:07:46 <Ejem> sorry, PA
06:07:58 <Ejem> ahh
06:08:12 <ChrisMorgan> Some apps are by him, others are by others.
06:08:19 <Ejem> who did the graphic design?
06:08:24 <Ejem> for PA
06:08:40 <ChrisMorgan> Someone else. I don't know who. John just talks about "his graphics designer"
06:08:49 <Ejem> lol
06:09:38 <Ejem> I think I'd have the graphics part down If I only knew the proggraming part.
06:10:16 <Ejem> lol you know what I have accomplished?
06:10:42 <Ejem> In high school I made Microsoft Basic say hello world!
06:10:53 <ChrisMorgan> print "hello world!"
06:10:59 <Ejem> never got further
06:11:17 <ChrisMorgan> print "Not knowing what to do, I'll give up."
06:11:23 <Ejem> can a person program using notepad?
06:11:35 <ChrisMorgan> Sure.
06:11:58 <Ejem> really? I thought it was possible.
06:12:15 <ChrisMorgan> You won't be able to compile inside Notepad for compiled languages, but then you won't be able to in just about any text editor.
06:13:59 <Ejem> Is there a programming tool that you tipically stick to?
06:14:41 <ChrisMorgan> For editing text I usually use gVim (specifically, my own gVim Portable)
06:14:51 <ChrisMorgan> It's difficult for beginners though.
06:14:58 <ChrisMorgan> I grew up with it because Dad used it :P
06:16:05 <Ejem> Difficult just figuring out how to work it?
06:16:23 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
06:16:55 <Ejem> have you used MS Basic?
06:17:26 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
06:18:03 <Ejem> what did you find more difficult to use?
06:18:10 <Ejem> between the two
06:18:49 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know. I grew up with both. They're different. gVim it's just getting to know how to do what. Programming you have to know how to do it and know what you want to do, etc.
06:20:42 <Ejem> I know what I want to do. Getting programs to run flawlessly is the hard part... like I've tried to make a program to execute a few programs with just one button at the same time. and I failed... multiple times.
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07:29:49 <ChrisMorgan> deep!
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07:50:51 <GizmoBot> sar3th has changed his .def once moar ;)
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09:48:54 <ZerFEr> should i get all my mails on my usb stick on thunderbird? ...... i am not sooo sure ^^^
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09:54:57 <riZkiT> before i try it .. is it possible to install firefox 2 portable and firefox 3 portable together? do they install in different directories?
10:04:13 <riZkiT> ok solved
10:04:43 <riZkiT> another question ... any ideo how i can delete an item from the portable apps menu .. have a link to an exe there thats useless
10:06:40 <ZerFEr> delete the folder of the application
10:06:59 <ZerFEr> and then options -> load icons new
10:07:03 <riZkiT> erm no there are two exe .. and i want a link only to one
10:07:23
10:08:07 <riZkiT> thnx anyway
10:08:57 <rmccue> riZkiT: Look at the support page for the platform, it mentions it under "hiding apps"
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10:29:44 <riZkiT> a well! thnx! ... tried it with a *space* mayself but *-* made it ...
10:29:51 <riZkiT> -a
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11:50:01 <Bensawsome> orly?
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12:08:44 <riZkiT> http://slangdictionary.ru/view_image/12
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14:24:51 <excid3> morning guys
14:26:27 <Bensawsome> ohai! :)
14:27:57 <excid3> hey Bensawsome
14:29:28 <Bensawsome> i be watchin frankenstien
14:29:49 <excid3> cool
14:29:52 <Bensawsome> or however its spelled >_>
14:29:57 <excid3> ive been trying to check my email...
14:30:02 <excid3> i moved back home yesterday
14:30:05 <excid3> :(
14:30:10 <excid3> freaking dialup
14:30:36 <Bensawsome> :/
14:30:49 <Bensawsome> get ur parents to get real internet :P
14:30:50 <Bensawsome> lol
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14:30:55 <excid3> we cant :(
14:31:17 <Bensawsome> ?
14:31:21 <excid3> the best we can possibly get is 256k broadband which is $35 a month
14:31:28 <Bensawsome> oh there isnt any line that can reach you?
14:31:33 <Bensawsome> ah :/
14:33:06 <excid3> yeah it sucks so much
14:35:04 <Bensawsome> where do u live excid3?
14:35:09 <Bensawsome> small town i assume
14:37:03 <excid3> town of 20,000 but a little ways out in the country
14:37:08 <Bensawsome> ah
14:38:10 <excid3> yay
14:38:17 <excid3> my new desktop parts should arrive tomorrow
14:38:23 <excid3> :D
14:38:37 <Bensawsome> kewl
14:38:53 <Bensawsome> good thing they arent delivered via dial up XD
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14:41:53 <Gizmokid2005> hello excid3
14:42:35 <excid3> haha
14:42:39 <excid3> hey Gizmokid2005
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15:50:16 <tomanuel> hi
15:50:38 <tomanuel> when will firefox 3.5beta4 portable come?
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15:51:22 <Gizmokid2005> tomanuel: when it comes. John, the main developer of the application gets automatically notified of the updates and will update when he has time
15:51:25 <andreasma> hi
15:51:39 <Gizmokid2005> typically beta updates aren't as high-priority as stable releases
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15:53:53 <tomanuel> okay. thank you very much, bye
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16:07:04 <Bensawsome> grrrrrr
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17:40:04 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
17:46:49 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
17:47:34 <SteveLamerton> Hi ZachThibeau, much happening?
17:48:04 <ZachThibeau> just working on musicplay3000 project site and trying to add playlist support :D
17:48:21 <ZachThibeau> I got a working alpha though of the application :D
17:48:23 <SteveLamerton> Ooohhh, how is it going?
17:48:45 <SteveLamerton> :)
17:49:39 <SteveLamerton> Are we talking a traditional sort of alpha with lots of exciting bugs?
17:49:40 <ZachThibeau> like I said though playlist support is still a wip, also getting a seekbar is the next thing as well as adding a volume bar :D
17:50:04 <ZachThibeau> well I say alpha as the linux port is untested as well as a mac port
17:50:28 <SteveLamerton> Ahhhh ok :)
17:50:29 <ZachThibeau> a bonus of using WxMediaCtrl is that it play video too :D
17:50:40 <ZachThibeau> **plays
17:51:05 <SteveLamerton> Yes, on windows it uses windows media player as the back end doesnt it?
17:51:24 <ZachThibeau> well sort of :P uses directshow which then calls windows media player
17:51:48 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh ok, I remember reading a patch that adds a vlc backend
17:52:13 <ZachThibeau> yeah I remember that but I'm not to keen in using it though at this time
17:52:40 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I seem to remember that it needed work ;)
17:55:06 <ZachThibeau> I may give wxskin a try and see if I can add skinning support for mp3k (spiffy acrostic if I do say so myself :D) but wxskin is in alpha :P
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17:55:45 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, the last time I looked I couldnt get it to compile properly, but then again I didnt know what I was doing at that point ;)
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17:57:02 <ZachThibeau> :P
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18:17:55 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: http://portableapps.com/node/16589#comment-118576 spam
18:18:12 <ZachThibeau> again
18:18:22 <ZachThibeau> I should say since you caught the first time xD
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18:19:28 <SteveLamerton> Thanks ZachThibeau :)
18:19:31 <ZachThibeau> np
18:24:11 <ZachThibeau> *sigh* I should really takle more advanced projects such as revamping lapwing :P
18:24:24 <ZachThibeau> I keep saying it but never get to it xD
18:25:13 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I want to get to it this summer, after my last exam and before going to uni I should have about 3 full months of time ;)
18:25:31 <ZachThibeau> :P
18:26:03 <ZachThibeau> when you did that did you use watcom compiler at that time?
18:26:32 <SteveLamerton> Why?
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18:27:00 <SteveLamerton> Because I had it handy ;)
18:27:04 <ZachThibeau> just some stuff floating around my memory that I need to get out of my head :P
18:27:30 <ZachThibeau> just if it was that case I would have to make some changes to the ui source to make it work in mingw probably
18:28:04 <SteveLamerton> Pretty rubbish compiler though, definitely not recommended, I think wxwidgets 2.9.0 drops support, and yes, it would probably need lots of changes, there is stacks of rubbish code in there ;)
18:29:03 <ZachThibeau> heck I may scrap the current ui and go with WxWidgets that can be made similar to the current/old one you had written
18:29:25 <ZachThibeau> ryan has a .info domain :D http://ryanmccue.info/
18:29:27 <SteveLamerton> Yes, I would do
18:30:39 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh, another new domain ;)
18:30:46 <ZachThibeau> darn cubegames is down because he is going to move everything to ryanmccue.info and the source was on his server xD
18:33:21 <ZachThibeau> brb food hunting time :D
18:33:56 <SteveLamerton> Bye!
18:34:28 <ZachThibeau> back
18:34:41 <SteveLamerton> wb ;)
18:34:50 <ZachThibeau> cubbourds are pretty barren :( good thing it's payday today :D
18:36:04 <ZachThibeau> bsd is replacing gcc with pcc :O
18:36:38 <SteveLamerton> Really?
18:37:03 <ZachThibeau> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20070915195203&mode=expanded/
18:37:08 <ZachThibeau> .title
18:37:09 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau: BSD Licensed PCC Compiler Imported
18:37:54 <ZachThibeau> appearently it's 5-10 times faster than gcc
18:38:05 <ZachThibeau> I may have to check that out sometime
18:38:16 <SteveLamerton> Old news ;)
18:38:30 <SteveLamerton> I would wait for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clang
18:38:44 <ZachThibeau> heh so it is xD stupid slashdot getting my hopes up
18:39:48 <ZachThibeau> :O On February 25 2009 it was announced that the clang/llvm became able to compile a working FreeBSD kernel
18:39:57 <ZachThibeau> thats pretty cool
18:40:06 <ZachThibeau> I may have to follow up on that SteveLamerton thanks :D
18:40:24 <SteveLamerton> Indeed it is :D A couple of years from full c++ support though
18:41:01 <ZachThibeau> yeah I read that
18:41:31 <SteveLamerton> But C support is complete, and fast too!
18:41:43 <ZachThibeau> seems the people have spoken about sf.net https://sourceforge.net/community/forum/topic.php?id=2877
18:42:28 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I am not a fan myself ;)
18:42:57 <ZachThibeau> I like the style just I don't like the lose of functionality that it has now :(
18:43:24 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, hmmm, we ought to get a post going about nominations for the community choice awards
18:43:48 <ZachThibeau> yeah thats true
18:44:14 <ZachThibeau> maybe you should edit the title to include the new
18:44:15 <ZachThibeau> s
18:44:57 <SteveLamerton> Hmm, be right back, and yes, I might
18:45:37 <ZachThibeau> and I nominated us :D
18:48:18 <SteveLamerton> Excellent :D
18:48:38 <ZachThibeau> got the html code for the badge too :D
18:48:54 * ZachThibeau adds it to his blog and tells people to click on it to nominate portableapps.com :D
18:49:53 <SteveLamerton> :D
18:51:22 <ZachThibeau> there added :D http://zachthibeau.com and look at the sidebar below the facebook badge
18:51:36 * ZachThibeau needs to fix that facebook badge :/
18:52:31 <SteveLamerton> Nice :)
18:53:36 <ZachThibeau> I'll make a public post as soon as I upgrade my wordpress version xD
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19:16:14 <SergentSiler> OMG, I FINALLY GOT MY SAMBA SHATE TO SHOW IN WINDOWS :DDDD
19:16:19 <SergentSiler> XD
19:16:25 <SergentSiler> s/shate/share
19:19:23 <ZerFEr> :)
19:26:12 <Bensawsome> lol
19:26:30 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler look in ot
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19:31:22 <SergentSiler> lol Bensawsome
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20:12:13 <SergentSiler> ello JohnTHaller
20:12:27 <MaienM|Gone> hello JohnTHaller
20:12:54 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello JohnTHaller
20:13:03 <SteveLamerton> Hi JohnTHaller
20:13:22 <JohnTHaller> hola
20:13:44 <Oni-Neoxes> I finally found out something I'm good at :D! Maybe I can do this and expand on it :B!
20:13:54 <Oni-Neoxes> I can easily make programs for calculators!
20:13:59 <SergentSiler> XD
20:14:06 <Oni-Neoxes> SergentSiler: I'm Serious
20:14:08 <Oni-Neoxes> I
20:14:17 <SergentSiler> :P
20:14:17 <Oni-Neoxes> I'm made a few games on it
20:14:22 <SergentSiler> nice
20:14:24 <Oni-Neoxes> and Now I'm making a huge RPG :B
20:14:33 <SergentSiler> lewl
20:14:36 <Oni-Neoxes> you have 3 classes, 4 magic each
20:14:37 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
20:14:44 <Oni-Neoxes> it's all text though :P
20:14:48 <SergentSiler> :P
20:14:49 <Oni-Neoxes> really fun though!
20:15:08 <Oni-Neoxes> It's Amazing. Even the Teacher who let me borrow the Ti-84 this year
20:15:21 <Oni-Neoxes> said it's awesome
20:15:44 <MaienM|Gone> hehe, I made a few simple ones on it too :P
20:15:46 * SteveLamerton coughs, off topic by miles guys ;)
20:15:56 <SergentSiler> lol
20:16:00 <MaienM|Gone> snake, 4 in a row, stuff like that
20:16:03 * Oni-Neoxes smakes SergentSiler on the back
20:16:06 <Oni-Neoxes> you okay there?
20:16:12 <SergentSiler> ?
20:16:13 * MaienM|Gone hides from SteveLamerton in #portableapps-ot
20:16:25 * Oni-Neoxes goes to -ot
20:16:28 * SergentSiler wonders wtf Oni-Neoxes is talking about
20:16:36 <Oni-Neoxes> SergentSiler: He coughed
20:16:42 <SergentSiler> lol
20:16:48 <SteveLamerton> SergentSiler: Tab complete fail I think ;)
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20:17:04 <SergentSiler> lol, ya
20:17:08 * Oni-Neoxes face palms
20:17:16 * SergentSiler assists
20:17:21 <Oni-Neoxes> SteveLamerton coughs, off topic by miles guys ;)
20:17:26 <Oni-Neoxes> he coughed
20:17:40 <SergentSiler> * Oni-Neoxes smakes SergentSiler on the back :P
20:17:40 <Oni-Neoxes> I slapped him in the back to see if he is okay
20:17:52 <Oni-Neoxes> oh
20:17:55 <Oni-Neoxes> i see :P
20:17:59 <Oni-Neoxes> woops
20:18:03 * SergentSiler dives off to -ot
20:18:12 <Oni-Neoxes> im off to XD
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20:18:57 <SteveLamerton> Connection trouble John?
20:20:13 <JohnTHaller1> was updating virtualbox and it reset the network
20:21:34 <SteveLamerton> Ahhhh kind of it ;)
20:21:41 <SteveLamerton> Shall I kick the first you?
20:21:57 <SergentSiler> it should ping out soon :P
20:23:51 <Oni-Neoxes> how do you open Windows Task Manager via cmd
20:23:56 <Oni-Neoxes> or run
20:24:00 <Oni-Neoxes> not cmd
20:24:08 <SteveLamerton> taskmgr
20:24:12 <Oni-Neoxes> thanks
20:24:59 <Oni-Neoxes> this is odd. I can't unhide folders
20:25:04 <Oni-Neoxes> or access the registry
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20:29:26 <JohnTHaller1> kick 1 :-)
20:31:35 <SteveLamerton> Just to confirm, kick JohnTHaller?
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20:33:04 <Oni-Neoxes> back
20:33:06 <Oni-Neoxes> phew
20:33:10 <Oni-Neoxes> Remote Assistance ftw
20:33:16 <Oni-Neoxes> 3rd PC I saved using it XD
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20:33:45 <Oni-Neoxes> They were all my brother's friends that I repaired their PCs
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20:34:09 <Oni-Neoxes> They had soo much viruses malware and spyware it's not even funny o-o
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20:34:47 <SteveLamerton> How are things today then JohnTHaller?
20:38:25 * Oni-Neoxes sighs
20:38:39 <Oni-Neoxes> I should've had them pay >_>
20:39:02 <SteveLamerton> Oni-Neoxes: Indeed you should ;)
20:39:06 <Oni-Neoxes> lolololol
20:39:19 <Oni-Neoxes> I know these guys so I know their intellect
20:39:34 <Oni-Neoxes> One I gave him Malwarebytes, Windows Defender, and spybot Serach and Destroy
20:39:50 <Oni-Neoxes> This one knows NOTHING about computers. so he is getting comodo >_>
20:40:04 * SergentSiler notices Oni-Neoxes spelled Search as Serach
20:40:47 <Oni-Neoxes> search :B
20:40:56 <SergentSiler> :P
20:40:58 <Oni-Neoxes> why always point to the negative facts >:O
20:41:04 <SergentSiler> >:D
20:41:47 * SergentSiler has itunes and wmp
20:41:52 <SergentSiler> in minimode*
20:42:03 <SergentSiler> (hit enter instead of shift XD)
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20:42:39 <SergentSiler> OHAI PTMB :D
20:42:47 <ptmb> Hi SergentSiler :P
20:43:07 <SergentSiler> YAY, itunes is done importing :D
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20:43:48 <ptmb> SergentSiler: how about talking about what you are talking in -ot instead of here?
20:43:57 <SergentSiler> lol
20:43:59 <SergentSiler> it was :P
20:44:09 <SergentSiler> then i decided to say that in here :D
20:44:21 <ptmb> it seems more of an -ot info tought
20:44:32 <SergentSiler> :P
20:44:37 <ptmb> come on, lets continue this talk in -ot
20:47:13 <purple> http://weblog.pigfoot.org/pigfoot/2009/04/30/firefox-35-beta-4-optimized-build/
20:47:24 <SergentSiler> :o
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20:50:29 <PR_1647> how do you delete programs on the portable apps
20:50:46 <MaienM|Gone> PR_1647: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#removingapps
20:50:46 <Oni-Neoxes> Just delete the folder
20:50:50 <Oni-Neoxes> nvm >_>
20:51:31 <ptmb> Hi PR_1647, has MaienM|Gone and Oni-Neoxes adviced, you can delete the folder where the app is (like, FirefoxPortable for Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition)
20:51:49 <ptmb> just have in mind that all your settings will be deleted too
20:51:52 <ptmb> for that app
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20:52:40 <IT> does anyone kno how to change the colors on the launchpad
20:53:18 <ptmb> Hi IT, when you say launchpad, do you mean the PortableApps.com Menu/Platform?
20:53:26 <IT> yes
20:54:23 <ptmb> Well, from what I know, currently the PortableApps.com Platform doesn't support color changes, but it suports basic theming
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20:55:16 <ptmb> so, despite no 3rd party themes being available yet due to the specs finalization, thewy are based of PNG images that can easily be modified
20:55:38 <IT> someone once told me it was made in delphi i tried to look in delphi
20:55:57 <IT> but no luck
20:56:21 <ZachThibeau> well it relies on a commecial copy of Delphi 2007 afaik
20:56:25 <ZachThibeau> to compile that is
20:56:40 <ptmb> the oficial theme is in [install_path]/PortableApps/PortableApps.com/App/DefaultData/Theme/
20:57:13 <IT> in the install folder
20:57:18 <ptmb> there you can see various images related to the theme that, if changed, will apply ot the menu when restared
20:57:31 <ptmb> with install_path I mean the place where you install the Menu
20:57:50 <ptmb> where you installed the menu, that is
20:58:45 <ptmb> usually the install location is the root of your flash drive, although it may be a different place
20:58:57 <IT> ok thank i found it
20:59:19 <ptmb> remember to back up the files in there in case you want to go back to the old look
20:59:30 <ptmb> and we hope we have helped!
20:59:58 <IT> ok i will and yes u have help i didnt have to use delphi for it thanks
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21:15:25 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: Sourceforge.net started the community choice awards, I nominated it today :D
21:17:12 <JohnTHaller> That time already?
21:17:33 <ZachThibeau> yup
21:17:41 <ZachThibeau> http://sourceforge.net/community/nominations-are-open-for-the-2009-community-choice-awards/
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21:55:41 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I added a nominate us block to the website
21:57:13 <Oni-Neoxes> JohnTHaller: ?
21:57:56 <ZachThibeau> Oni-Neoxes: sf.net community choice awards
21:58:04 <Oni-Neoxes> oh
21:58:07 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I nominated us too
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22:02:26 <powerjuce> what catagory are we going for?
22:04:40 <JohnTHaller> all of em :-)
22:05:45 <Oni-Neoxes> Nice
22:06:48 <powerjuce> hahaha
22:06:52 <powerjuce> awsome
22:08:48 <ZachThibeau> :D
22:09:05 * ZachThibeau is attempting to compile Firefox from scratch for the fun of it :D
22:09:14 <ZachThibeau> source I mean xD
22:09:31 <ZachThibeau> I think I need more coffee before I continue though xD
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22:18:06 <powerjuce> hey kaeos how can we help you 2day?
22:18:59 <kaeos> Being as productive in the portable comunity as ever.
22:19:08 <powerjuce> haha
22:19:12 <powerjuce> lol beta test
22:19:17 <kaeos> Shit that has sounded very utomatic
22:19:33 <powerjuce> lol but it is nice 2 hear that
22:20:31 <kaeos> I'm sorry I don't see how a can participate but I like to see how it goes on
22:21:35 <powerjuce> kaeos: 3 basic ways
22:21:40 <powerjuce> you can provide support
22:21:42 <powerjuce> beta test apps
22:21:46 <powerjuce> develop apps
22:21:54 <powerjuce> it all depends on what you are strong at
22:22:05 <powerjuce> if u r a people person, support
22:22:31 <powerjuce> if u like to try out new stuff even with the risks go for beta testing
22:22:49 <powerjuce> and finially, if u like programming, go ahead and become a developer
22:23:59 <kaeos> I've been 'round for some time now but I just got with one bug in a TBP update
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22:45:22 <MaienM|Gone> whoa where did that /me crap come from :/
22:45:53 * SrgSiler|AFK smacks MaienM|Gone
22:46:29 <MaienM|Gone> whoa.... sorry, didn't know /amsg was for all servers -_-
22:46:40 <SrgSiler|AFK> lol
22:47:33 <MaienM|Gone> anyway, off to bed :P
22:47:42 <SrgSiler|AFK> :P
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22:53:22 <ZachThibeau> brb going to the store to buy some chips
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22:58:53 <powerjuce|away> hey by the way guys how has firefox 3.x been running on flash drives lately?
22:59:03 <SrgSiler|AFK> fine for me
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23:05:37 <gluxon> Okay...
23:05:41 <gluxon> Whoops.
23:05:45 <gluxon> Wrong channel :D
23:05:49 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
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23:10:27 <ZachThibeau> back :D
23:10:42 * ZachThibeau gotz an energy drink :D
23:10:46 * ZachThibeau loves amp :D
23:11:08 <ZachThibeau> amp re-ingnite to be precise :)
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23:12:16 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :D
23:12:27 <SrgSiler|sAFK> ZachThibeau, i lovez the original and the orange one :P
23:13:00 <ZachThibeau> hmmm Guarana, Taurine, vitamins, and ginseng goodness :P
23:13:12 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :DD
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23:16:14 <ZachThibeau> wtf O_o my friend Laura from my highschool years just commented on facebook star trek- so gooddddd :O
23:16:24 <ZachThibeau> I never took her for a trekie type
23:16:37 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
23:16:43 * ZachThibeau should of asked her out when I had the chance
23:16:53 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
23:16:54 <ZachThibeau> she's now engaged to be married :(
23:16:59 <SrgSiler|sAFK> Ouch D:
23:17:08 <ZachThibeau> it would of never worked out though
23:17:17 <ZachThibeau> I moved around to much and I am moving again in the fall D:
23:17:21 <SrgSiler|sAFK> DD::
23:17:41 * ZachThibeau has hope for the future though :D
23:18:03 * SrgSiler|sAFK wishes pap 1.6 would come out so he could start theming again :D
23:18:14 <ZachThibeau> dude it's out xD
23:18:25 <SrgSiler|sAFK> officially?
23:18:28 <SrgSiler|sAFK> or testing?
23:18:29 <ZachThibeau> it's in release candidate stage :P
23:18:35 <SrgSiler|sAFK> then its not released :P
23:18:48 <ZachThibeau> oops sorry Pre-release stafe
23:18:51 <ZachThibeau> **stage
23:18:58 <SrgSiler|sAFK> thats even worse for me XD
23:18:58 <ZachThibeau> http://portableapps.com/node/18859
23:19:23 * ZachThibeau codes in C++ rewrite of lapwing
23:21:12 <ZachThibeau> in case you all don't know what lapwing was a program much like JuantePE (this was before JauntePE though) but JauntePE did more stuff than lapwing, my goal is to get it beyond JauntePE :D
23:21:32 <ZachThibeau> and to help make the apps it makes portable paf compliant too :D
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