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01:05:36 <pabot> OliverK thinks you should try Geany: http://portableapps.com/node/18669
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01:11:34 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
01:11:52 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
01:12:20 <ChrisMorgan> howdy ZachThibeau
01:13:35 * ChrisMorgan wishes the release team would look at things (e.g. Code::Blocks)
01:13:49 * OliverK wishes someone would look at the mana world portable
01:13:55 <OliverK> get the stupid sucker out the door
01:14:03 <OliverK> no offense to MaienM
01:14:04 <ZachThibeau> I have been looking at a few things but it's get discouraging when no one else is doing it :(
01:14:07 <ChrisMorgan> If it were another type of game I might try it, as it is I'm not going ti.
01:14:08 <ChrisMorgan> *to
01:14:14 <OliverK> ChrisMorgan: doesn't matter
01:14:40 <OliverK> at that point, I have no need for Code:Blocks portable, since I have Visual Studio and Geany
01:14:48 <ChrisMorgan> :o
01:15:00 <ZachThibeau> :O
01:15:09 <OliverK> no, visual studio isn't portable, but I have it on both my laptop and desktop
01:15:11 * ZachThibeau uses CodeBlocks religiously on all platforms
01:15:13 <ChrisMorgan> You should use Code::Blocks instead of both, or if you really like Visual Studio, go for gVim instead of Geany! ;-)
01:15:13 <OliverK> problem solved
01:15:31 * OliverK thinks he will stick with Geany
01:15:35 <ChrisMorgan> What should I test? We've now upgraded our bandwidth at home, so now I can download things more often if needed.
01:15:46 <OliverK> you should test mana world portable
01:16:07 <OliverK> i have no need for it and won't play it, neither did TimClark. but he poked around
01:16:10 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, not going to due to my conscience.
01:16:19 <OliverK> ?
01:16:30 <ChrisMorgan> It's a shoot-em-up type game, isn't it?
01:16:36 <OliverK> nope
01:16:37 <OliverK> gorsh
01:16:40 <OliverK> that nexiuz
01:16:45 <ChrisMorgan> That's what I understood it was (behind the "RPG" label)
01:16:53 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: it's not about the code..it's testing hte portablization...that's the point..you don't have to USE the app, just make sure it does what it's supposed to
01:16:54 <ChrisMorgan> So what is it then?
01:16:56 <OliverK> and i'm not worried about testor for that one
01:17:08 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: RPG = role playing game....FPS = shoot'em up (First Person Shooter)
01:17:23 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, but RPGs are normally bang-bang-bang games ;-)
01:17:41 <ChrisMorgan> Or kick-thud-push-wallop-die games
01:18:08 <OliverK> nope
01:18:08 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: No...they aren't...name one that's OFFICIALLY an RPG that is shoot'em up based.
01:18:10 <ChrisMorgan> At the moment I've been putting more time into my PortableApps.com Launcher.
01:18:28 <ChrisMorgan> I really wouldn't know... I never try 'em.
01:18:34 <OliverK> due your job and what you volunteered to do
01:18:44 <OliverK> its not for getting your schtuff out the door
01:18:58 <OliverK> its for helping others get stuff out the door
01:19:03 <ChrisMorgan> Also I've been trying to survive year 12 :P
01:19:23 * OliverK is in college
01:19:40 <OliverK> second year of college
01:19:41 <OliverK> gtry that
01:19:44 <OliverK> try*
01:20:11 <OliverK> wait until you get a 40 hour per week job
01:20:24 <ChrisMorgan> Code::Blocks is just my current hobby horse because it's a category we don't have anything of. If we had Java Portable sorted out (status, JohnTHaller? Will Oracle be more helpful?) then I'd try out Eclipse, but I don't believe that the plan is for it to be released until JP is sorted out.
01:21:43 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: at least I don't do the recommended 4-5 hours of study each day as well as the 6 1/4 hours at school... that'd be a ~55 hour working week... plus more time on weekends...
01:21:48 <Gizmokid2005> updated TMW :) MaienM did good on it, though it's not much my type of game...
01:21:56 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: now try that WITH a full time job...
01:21:59 <ChrisMorgan> So what is it then?
01:22:03 <Gizmokid2005> already spent 4 years of that.
01:22:10 * OliverK had twelve credit hours
01:22:12 <Gizmokid2005> well actually three
01:22:18 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: school and full time job, or PA.c work and full time job?
01:22:19 <OliverK> plus a 26 hour a week job
01:22:26 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: school plus FT job
01:23:32 <ChrisMorgan> :s
01:26:12 <Gizmokid2005> Yep...just about a 90-100 hour week
01:26:14 <Gizmokid2005> those were fun.
01:26:35 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I've got Dev test 1 of RSSOwl ready to go
01:27:27 <JohnTHaller> this is the pa.c installer icon i'm working on... ignore the shadows at the moment: http://portableapps.com/temp/PA.cInstallerIcon.png
01:27:40 <Gizmokid2005> looks good JohnTHaller :)
01:31:07 <ChrisMorgan> btw JohnTHaller why the slight glow about the USB icon? I've noticed it in the OO.oP splash as well.
01:31:29 <OliverK> so this icon is for the Suite Installer?
01:31:34 <OliverK> it looks nice, BTW
01:31:51 <OliverK> and I like the installer images you were showing earlier as well
01:34:16 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... now I've looked at the installer images. 2 is better than 1, but I still prefer the fade to white (though the rest is fine).
01:36:12 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: is it intentional that http://portableapps.com/temp/InstallerScreenshotNewGraphics2.png has different text, indicating FF rather than FFP?
01:36:30 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: ignore that... just the screenshot we used
01:37:46 <JohnTHaller> and the glow is because it's awesome... duh :-P
01:37:53 <JohnTHaller> Ok, reload, shadow fixed: http://portableapps.com/temp/PA.cInstallerIcon.png
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01:39:53 <JohnTHaller> And that icon is gonna be used on all PA.c Installers for all apps as a generic icon now, like most Windows installers use. Within the installer, the header will be the app's icon.
01:41:15 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... not sure how I fell about that... I like having the app icon, but having a PA.c one will be more recognisable as PA.c, but not so much as such and such an app
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01:41:59 <dbdii407> Did john get the message about that site?
01:42:07 <JohnTHaller> It was getting annoying when say, FFP was installing... in the taskbar you see the FF icon... but click it and it's not FF... so it's confusing.
01:42:24 <ChrisMorgan> dbdii407: the domain name pointed to it? Bensawsome said about it.
01:42:31 <OliverK> ?
01:42:37 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, that is something I've been caught with.
01:42:48 <Bensawsome> ya i pmed JohnTHaller
01:42:52 <dbdii407> Well i know the site points to PortableApps.... :/
01:42:54 <JohnTHaller> At the same time, we need the app branding within the installer somewhere... but with NSIS, the icon in the banner on the license/component and installing pages is based on the main installer icon we set. So, I created a small EXE to create the BMP banner from the ICO
01:43:04 <dbdii407> ZachThibeau did the same for scrapirc.com
01:43:05 <JohnTHaller> It's just a domain pointing to us, it's not doing anything
01:43:18 <ChrisMorgan> Sounds good.
01:43:26 <ChrisMorgan> I don't even know what the domain is :P
01:43:35 <Bensawsome> tcc something?
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01:43:38 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
01:43:44 <Bensawsome> www.tctshare.com
01:43:50 <ZachThibeau> tctsoftware and it isn't just pointing though
01:44:00 <ZachThibeau> some of the links are back to that url
01:44:08 <ZachThibeau> not to portableapps.com
01:44:11 <dbdii407> http://www.tctshare.com/
01:44:21 <ChrisMorgan> Isn't it crazy that writing my launcher's documentation takes longer than writing the actual launcher... :s
01:45:27 <ChrisMorgan> Do you reckon it's worthwhile getting a petition or something to Oracle about Java Portable? Being a new product for them it /might/ do something...
01:46:27 <ChrisMorgan> .ask MaienM How're you going on the BPBible Dutch translation?
01:46:27 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: I'll pass that on when I next see MaienM.
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01:54:51 <OliverK> no its not crazy the documentation takes longer
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02:25:23 <JohnTHaller> Thinking about swapping the two... thoughts? http://portableapps.com/temp/PA.cInstallerIconReverse.png
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02:47:45 <Bensawsome> hmmm JohnTHaller personally i like it taking up the whole area (the pa logo) the other looks to.... empty i guess i'd say
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02:50:35 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
02:51:41 <Bensawsome> so the first one.. lol sry i didnt specify that XD
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02:52:06 <JohnTHaller> may go with the reverse. at 48px and 32px (which most people will see) the big pa logo you can't tell what the drive is really
02:52:09 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I reckon that reversed would be better if the USB disk got moved up to the top and the PA.c logo then got enlarged.
02:52:21 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/PA.cInstallerIconReverse48.png
02:52:36 <JohnTHaller> gonna hand tune it for each size
02:52:51 <Bensawsome> ah ya true JohnTHaller... would be a bit hard to see
02:53:23 <ChrisMorgan> Good, but it'd be better, I think, with the drive moved up a couple of pixels there and the PA.c logo a couple wider and higher.
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02:54:27 <JohnTHaller> i tried that and it unbalanced it a bit. this was about as big as you could go without it looking lopsided
02:54:27 <Bensawsome> nite guys...
02:55:06 <ChrisMorgan> g'nite Bensawsome
02:55:15 <ChrisMorgan> OK then.
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03:00:41 <JohnTHaller> gnight all
03:01:17 <ChrisMorgan> gnight JohnTHaller :-)
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03:11:49 <ChrisMorgan> There, I've implemented ConfigWrite in CPALT :-)
03:15:49 <ChrisMorgan> ... and WriteINIStr
03:16:03 <ChrisMorgan> Now, what next..?
03:16:52 <ChrisMorgan> Ah yes. Registry backups to HKCU\Software\PortableApps.com rather than just in place.
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03:17:53 <aan> hi
03:18:14 <ChrisMorgan> Hello aan
03:18:19 <ChrisMorgan> Can we help you?
03:18:22 <aan> cool
03:18:25 <aan> amazing this channel exists
03:18:26 <aan> I'm glad
03:18:46 <ChrisMorgan> It definitely does exist!
03:18:51 <aan> okay, let me give a tiny bit of background
03:18:55 <ChrisMorgan> And we're here to help :-)
03:18:57 <aan> I use portableapps for this reason:
03:19:20 <aan> http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2452/scr1242357799.png
03:19:35 <aan> cause i can keep all my software clean, organized, and i can reformat C: and not lose any settings
03:19:45 <aan> or i could just drag a program onto a VM or something and it all works great
03:19:57 <aan> I realize some people use it for USB keys but i've never done that before
03:20:00 <aan> ive never owned a usb key
03:20:15 <aan> I just dont have a program installed into my Program Files
03:20:16 <aan> so!
03:20:25 <aan> I want to use VLC Media Player
03:20:35 <aan> and have my prefs be saved in this nice folder
03:20:41 <aan> I want to add VLCPortable here ;)
03:20:42 <aan> but!
03:20:57 <aan> When I check file associations in VLC, the portableapps version of it doesnt associate them
03:21:39 <ChrisMorgan> If that's so, it's intentional.
03:21:51 <aan> a lot of good free software doesnt block you
03:22:05 <aan> winamp. it's portable. it uses a Winamp.ini in the winamp folder
03:22:10 <aan> but you can still set associations, if you want.
03:22:13 <Bensawsome> ya cause if it left associations then it would be leaving some data behind...
03:22:21 <ChrisMorgan> Our things are designed to be what's often called "stealth". They're not designed for how you want to use them, they're designed to leave *nothing* behind.
03:22:26 <Bensawsome> and some broken associations... which admins wqouldnt like
03:22:55 <aan> Could you consider possibly adding "AllowAssociate" in the ini file?
03:23:03 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. As they say (except normally it's said tongue in cheek, but not here), it's not a bug, it's a feature.
03:23:05 <aan> disabled by default
03:24:15 <ChrisMorgan> I doubt that it will be added. Different apps do it different ways (some have a config option, some need it cleaning up, etc.), and it'd be a bit difficult to manage with a unified launcher which is something we're working on (me and the head guy)
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03:24:26 <ChrisMorgan> While it could be done, we're unlikely to do it at the start.
03:24:26 <alpha1beta> howdy gents
03:24:35 <ChrisMorgan> hey alpha1beta
03:24:41 <alpha1beta> ChrisMorgan!
03:24:43 <alpha1beta> Hello.
03:24:45 <aan> ChrisMorgan, that leaves me stuck...
03:25:05 <aan> I'm trying to accomplish:
03:25:20 <aan> A nice, clean, single folder media player, that I can click a single checkbox to assoc/unassoc
03:25:24 <aan> which doesnt write into my registry
03:25:26 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry about that, but it's the way it is. I don't have the latest copy of VLC Portable on hand, so I can't check what it is in the launcher or data which does it.
03:25:27 <aan> which saves its preferences to .INI
03:25:41 <ChrisMorgan> File associations are in the registry.
03:25:45 <aan> Yes of course
03:25:47 <aan> but thats not the issue
03:25:49 <ChrisMorgan> There's nothing you can do about /that/ part of it.
03:25:51 <aan> the issue is losign my configuration
03:26:02 <aan> also
03:26:11 <alpha1beta> there is portable file associator, works well
03:26:14 <aan> the issue is having an overcomplicated Microsoft guidelines
03:26:19 <aan> where like
03:26:21 <ChrisMorgan> No it isn't, the issue is that VLC Portable is doing what it's meant to do - leaving nothing behind :-) It's just that's not what you're wanting it to do.
03:26:23 <Bensawsome> thats ms for ya :/
03:26:25 <aan> i'm navigating all over 10 locations
03:26:32 <alpha1beta> M$ sucks!
03:26:32 <aan> trying to find all these differnet programs
03:26:35 <aan> doing things in different ways
03:26:38 <ChrisMorgan> Anyhow, I've got to go now, end of lunch time.
03:26:38 <aan> it drives me crazy
03:26:53 <ChrisMorgan> Nothing to do with Microsoft.
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03:27:14 <Bensawsome> well either way you cant exactly make all programs do it the same..
03:27:18 <Bensawsome> its impossible
03:27:20 <alpha1beta> anything wrong with a computer can be blamed on M$
03:27:36 <Bensawsome> alpha1beta thats my philosophy and it's always worked for me :D
03:27:51 <alpha1beta> and linux is the solution
03:27:59 <Bensawsome> .pa portable file associations
03:28:03 <alpha1beta> I yelled at my vice principal today, she said linux sucks
03:28:03 <Bensawsome> >_>
03:28:12 <Bensawsome> .g site:portableapps.com portable file associations
03:28:13 <pabot> Bensawsome: http://portableapps.com/node/3589
03:28:16 <Bensawsome> lol nice alpha1beta
03:28:18 <Bensawsome> .title
03:28:27 <Bensawsome> >_>
03:28:31 <Bensawsome> .title http://portableapps.com/node/3589
03:28:44 <Bensawsome> grrr
03:28:48 <pabot> Bensawsome: Open Office File Association - http://portableapps.com/node/3589
03:28:49 <pabot> Bensawsome: Open Office File Association | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
03:28:51 <pabot> Bensawsome: Open Office File Association | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
03:28:57 <Bensawsome> O_O
03:29:06 <Bensawsome> dang lag... and obviously thats not it
03:29:20 <Bensawsome> agh alpha1beta can you find the portable file associator?
03:29:28 <alpha1beta> yea gimme a sec
03:29:35 <Bensawsome> i closed ff and dont wanna open it and wait 5 minutes just for my tabs to open -_-
03:29:51 <aan> god fucking damnit
03:29:58 <Bensawsome> aan plz dont swear
03:29:59 <alpha1beta> Langauge!
03:30:01 <aan> nobody ever understands
03:30:03 <aan> i mean
03:30:14 <aan> I just want a damn working Video player thats not all gay all over my filesystem
03:30:17 <aan> which i can associatie
03:30:21 <aan> thats why i use portable stuff
03:30:23 <aan> NOT cause of usb keys
03:30:29 <aan> i keep a clean system
03:30:37 <aan> forcing you to not allow associations thats too Nazi
03:30:39 <alpha1beta> just use VLC
03:30:44 <aan> well
03:30:48 <aan> VLC writes in a buncha places
03:30:50 <aan> and registry
03:30:55 <aan> so I lose my preferences
03:31:01 <aan> it doesnt save ini
03:31:34 <alpha1beta> then use the portable version, but set it to play only the types you want, by using the right click Open With..always open with this program
03:31:35 <Bensawsome> well the point of our apps are for usb drives... we didnt make them originally for on your desktop
03:32:04 <alpha1beta> just use friggin linux
03:32:08 <Bensawsome> ya :D
03:32:11 <alpha1beta> http://portableapps.com/node/15583
03:32:15 <alpha1beta> .title http://portableapps.com/node/15583
03:32:20 <pabot> alpha1beta: PortableFileAssociator 2.2.0.6 Dev Test 1 | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
03:32:28 <Bensawsome> :D there ya go aan
03:32:30 <alpha1beta> Meryr Christmas
03:32:44 <alpha1beta> speling Fail I know :P
03:32:48 <Bensawsome> lol
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03:47:33 <aan> do you guys know why every time i start up a portableapp and the Banner is disabled
03:47:42 <aan> the "Wait cursor" turns on for 5 seconds?
03:47:55 <aan> it does this on multiple machines
03:47:57 <alpha1beta> you mean the splash screen?
03:48:04 <aan> Splash screen is disabled
03:48:22 <aan> what I get is a "Wait cursor" for the length of the amount of time the splash screen would usually be visible
03:48:31 <alpha1beta> I have no idea, what OS?
03:48:38 <aan> XP
03:48:42 <alpha1beta> admin?
03:48:43 <aan> does it on my desktop, on my Laptop, and in my VM
03:48:50 <aan> with every portableapps.com program
03:49:03 <aan> yes, I'm admin
03:49:13 <alpha1beta> hmm, sorry, I got no idea why, unless you disabled it in the script
03:49:23 <aan> disabled what
03:49:33 <alpha1beta> the splash screen
03:49:38 <aan> Yes, I disabled it.
03:49:43 <aan> I never want to see a splash screen
03:49:51 <aan> if I get portable software that has splash screens that cant be disabled, i delete them
03:49:59 <aan> i'm just saying
03:50:11 <alpha1beta> ok, so you get the waiting cursor?
03:50:11 <aan> After I disable the splash screen, there's a "Wait cursor" instead.
03:50:30 <alpha1beta> best bet, remove the entire code for the splash screen, don't just disable it
03:50:47 <aan> too much maintainence, then I have to modify every program
03:50:49 <aan> thats a lot of work
03:51:00 <aan> that's why I'm asking here
03:51:13 <alpha1beta> I don't know of any other way, sorry
03:51:27 <alpha1beta> I'd just do that to the few apps you just the most
03:51:36 <aan> Do you get the Wait cursor too?
03:51:49 <alpha1beta> I use the splash screens
03:53:02 <alpha1beta> you could also shorten the time of the splash screen from 1200ms to like 0010 ms
03:53:09 <alpha1beta> 10 miliseconds
03:53:18 <alpha1beta> where right now it's like 1.2 seconds
03:57:55 <aan> where do you change tht
03:58:00 <aan> you mean Recompile the code?
04:01:19 <alpha1beta> you shouldn't have to recompile, just edit the launcher
04:02:06 <alpha1beta> I'm not sure exactly where that would be, but it would say splash screen and have a link within those couple of lines to the splash screen jpeg
04:03:40 <alpha1beta> I'm working on HW, so please ping (either say my nick in front of your msg, or PM) if you need me, I'm not steadily checking the IRC
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04:09:36 <ZachThibeau> howdy alpha1beta
04:09:46 <alpha1beta> hey Zach, what you up to?
04:10:03 <ZachThibeau> backing up zachthibeau.com :)
04:10:46 <alpha1beta> didn't go and break it did you? :P
04:11:07 <ZachThibeau> no I'm just rearranging some stuff
04:11:44 <ZachThibeau> like my main domain on my server is thibeaz.com and my addon is zachthibeau.com so I'm getting my providor to swap my main domain with zachthibeau.com since thibeaz.com is about to expire
04:11:56 <alpha1beta> check what I've done with my site, many new changes, more recent blog, Facebook login, and I stole the code for a javascript dock, which I'm gonna recode some of it over the next day or 2
04:12:05 <alpha1beta> gonna renew it?
04:12:05 <ZachThibeau> cool
04:12:13 <ZachThibeau> thibeaz.com... nah
04:12:28 <ZachThibeau> and alpha1beta whats your url?
04:12:30 <alpha1beta> I gotta renew mine soon, 15 days left
04:12:41 <alpha1beta> http://www.alpha1beta.com
04:12:49 <alpha1beta> that should redirect to alpha1beta.co.cc
04:13:34 <ZachThibeau> yeah thibeaz.com never really generated the traffic I wanted, now zachthibeau.com :D dude I get thousands of hits :D
04:13:45 <alpha1beta> lot of spam?
04:13:51 <ZachThibeau> heck no
04:13:54 <ZachThibeau> unique hits
04:13:58 <ZachThibeau> :P
04:14:06 <ZachThibeau> even 1 thats a bsd user xD
04:14:12 <alpha1beta> all I get it spammers signing up for my site, hence why I added FB logins
04:15:13 <ZachThibeau> my forum at http://zachthibeau.com/forum uses integrated akismet antispam and recaptcha :)
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05:34:34 <MaienM|Sleep> hmm, gotta update TMW when I get out of school
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10:39:42 <ZachThibeau> hola sar3th
10:39:54 <sar3th> heyo ZachThibeau
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10:42:13 <sar3th> hello pa_6063, how can we help you?
10:42:54 <pa_6063> nothing at this point, just seeing who's online
10:43:00 <pa_6063> :)
10:44:47 <sar3th> okay then :)
10:48:10 <dbdii407> Glad you came in. But be warned. It's attack of the Zz's for a while. ;)
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10:49:03 * ZachThibeau says "I don't have time to procrastinate... I'll do that later!"
10:49:23 <pa_6063> :)
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10:52:40 <pabot> Suiseiseki is desu
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11:06:41 <diib> at the busstop. :D
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11:09:15 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
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12:43:32 <pabot> Horusofoz is a long-term PortableApps.com user who can offer some low-level app support. But be nice and don't make him make you turn the other cheek!
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13:11:08 <Horusofoz> rmccue: Hi Ryan. Can I ask are you still developing Songbird or is the project up for interested parties?
13:11:57 <rmccue> Interested parties are invited to have a go at it :)
13:13:19 <Horusofoz> Would you be up for posting in the thread that it is available?
13:14:05 <Horusofoz> I think it's a very popular app and devs would be interested.
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13:14:40 <sar3th> hello pa_9069, how can we help you?
13:14:59 <pa_9069> hello
13:15:06 <rmccue> Horusofoz: You can do so on behalf of me and link to the logs if you'd like :)
13:15:39 <pa_9069> i install the program and it runs, but if I take out the pendrive and I plug it another time it doesn't work
13:15:46 <pa_9069> any idea??
13:16:09 <pa_9069> it says a problem of unpacking or somenthing
13:16:20 <Horusofoz> I'll post it and quote this text if that's ok as I don't know how to link to log. When you get time just drop by and post a verification?
13:16:31 <sar3th> pa_9069: which app are you refering to?
13:16:55 <pa_9069> th platform
13:17:13 <pa_9069> I can't use anithing
13:18:01 <sar3th> you donwloaded and installed the platform to your pendrive and after installing, you plugged it out and back in, and after that the suite did not work, is that right?
13:18:12 <pa_9069> yes
13:18:43 <sar3th> that's very stange
13:19:11 <sar3th> did you finish the installation completely before unplugging?
13:19:22 <pa_9069> i have tried to install it with diferent computers but the prblem stills
13:20:20 <sar3th> normally you only need to install it once, after that it can be run from anywhere; could it be that your pendrive is broken or old?
13:21:01 <pa_9069> nono i dont thing so
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13:28:20 <Horusofoz> rmccue: Are you ok with this post? http://pastebin.com/m6088f55c
13:28:32 <Horusofoz> Entitled Project Update
13:39:38 <Horusofoz> rmccue: ?
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13:45:12 <Bensawsome> lol
13:46:51 <Horusofoz> crikey
13:47:01 <Horusofoz> Ill have to take that as a yes I suppose
13:47:39 <Bensawsome> no :P
13:48:21 <Horusofoz> why not?
13:48:29 <Bensawsome> lol
13:48:32 <Horusofoz> oops - http://portableapps.com/node/17000#comment-119052
13:48:34 <Bensawsome> jk :P
13:50:07 <Horusofoz> so ben do you do any programming *hint hint :D
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13:50:26 <Gizmokid2005> Good morning everyone
13:51:33 <Horusofoz> ello ello
14:15:22 <Gizmokid2005> RELEASE: RSSOwl 2M9 Portable Dev Test 1 http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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15:08:22 <Dan> I want to rip a cd onto my flash drive, how would I do that?
15:08:42 <Dan> so that I can listen to it with the cool player
15:10:38 <Dan> ???
15:11:11 <Gizmokid2005> Dan: you mean take the music off the CD?
15:14:04 <Horusofoz> Have you tried BonkEnc - http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/bonkenc_portable
15:14:58 <ZachThibeau> btw Boncenc is a program that will convert audio cd's to any audio format
15:24:39 <Dan> yeah Gizmokid
15:24:54 <Gizmokid2005> follow Horusofoz and ZachThibeau's advice
15:24:58 <Gizmokid2005> that'll do what you want
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15:26:10 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
15:26:33 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
15:26:44 <JohnTHaller> hola
15:27:08 <Horusofoz> Hi john
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15:27:30 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
15:27:33 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
15:27:46 <ZachThibeau> not much
15:27:46 <SteveLamerton> Hi John, not too bad, yourself?
15:28:02 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
15:28:05 <ZachThibeau> just jumping servers for my personal blog
15:28:12 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
15:28:43 <Horusofoz> Learning Dreamweaver here
15:28:51 <Dan> Thanks guys
15:29:13 <SteveLamerton> Hi ZachThibeau
15:30:07 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller, SteveLamerton :)
15:30:17 <Gizmokid2005> yw Dan
15:30:20 <Horusofoz> Dan: Welcome
15:30:23 <SteveLamerton> Hi Gizmokid2005
15:30:32 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: got RSSOwl DT1 going
15:30:43 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: cool
15:31:02 <JohnTHaller> i'm ok. tired. been a rough couple weeks family-wise which is why I haven't been around as much.
15:31:09 <Gizmokid2005> :)
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15:40:19 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
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15:46:23 <pa_3334> Hi. If somebody can help. May I use all these portable soft in commercial use, I mean on the customer's computer?
15:51:07 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3334: elaborate a little more, as long as you aren't trying to pass off the software as your own, the quick answer is sure.
15:55:25 <pa_3334> Ok, thanks
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16:07:48 <JohnTHaller> sorry stepped out... back
16:08:02 <JohnTHaller> SteveLamerton: I should be releasing Toucan today with the new installer. I'm finishing it up in the next couple hours.
16:12:04 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Awesome, pleased to hear it :D
16:13:22 <SteveLamerton> Time to go for some food now, should be back later all, bye
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16:19:48 <ZachThibeau> yay :D I compiled firefox for my cpu architecture :) I now have a build of firefox thats optimized for me :D
16:20:51 <JohnTHaller> well aren't YOU special :-P
16:21:56 <ZachThibeau> I feel it since I tried compiling ff since last year with no success till today :D
16:25:29 * ZachThibeau celebrates by working on a couple of other projects as well as looking at rmccue's songbirdportable and seeing what he did so ZachThibeau can continue songbird portable
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16:58:23 <JohnTHaller> Alright, I think I'm gonna have the PA.c Installer default to English only if not specified.
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17:16:54 <pabot> ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/
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18:59:19 <Bensawsome> http://bensawsome.com/images/security.jpg <-- made it myself and thought you guys might like it ;)
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20:17:23 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: you around?
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20:18:40 <JohnTHaller> sup
20:19:20 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/node/19271#comment-119064 Fill my stupid head with information.
20:19:27 <Gizmokid2005> do we currently have a Java Portable released?
20:19:41 <JohnTHaller> Use the portabliozer
20:19:47 <JohnTHaller> Just like always for OO.o, etc
20:19:59 <Gizmokid2005> hmmm...I missed that apparently
20:20:01 <Gizmokid2005> link?
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20:21:15 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: http://portableapps.com/support/openoffice_portable#java
20:21:18 <Gizmokid2005> correct?
20:23:46 <JohnTHaller> yea
20:24:18 <Gizmokid2005> so the actual portablizer installs java to the \PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java directory?
20:24:27 <Gizmokid2005> and I should just include the path in my launcher...
20:24:32 <Gizmokid2005> am I following right?
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20:27:47 <JohnTHaller> yup
20:29:07 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello all :D!
20:29:58 <Gizmokid2005> so as a prerequisite in my dt I should say that they need to install Java Portablizer first...
20:30:02 <Gizmokid2005> I guess that makes sense
20:30:17 <Gizmokid2005> but couldn't I just include java in the app itself?
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20:30:45 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
20:32:54 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: If you're not busy... can I ask a question about the Installer?
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20:38:46 <JohnTHaller> what?
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20:42:50 <JohnTHaller> gluxon: what?
20:43:10 <gluxon> You know the second page, that's optional?
20:43:22 <gluxon> Usually used for additional langs?
20:43:32 <gluxon> Is it possible for that to have 2 items?
20:43:48 <gluxon> Additional Languages and something else?
20:43:56 <MaienM> nope
20:44:02 <MaienM> unless I missed something in the source
20:44:13 <MaienM> (I was trying to do that for TMW :P)
20:44:20 <gluxon> Oh...
20:44:25 <gluxon> Darn...
20:44:38 <gluxon> Well, John... then how do you make a plugin installer?
20:44:45 <gluxon> Thanks, BTW.
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20:47:17 <JohnTHaller> Nope, we'll only use that for one thing... and it's really meant only for additional langs... and only if it saves significant space. Avoid it when at all possible.
20:47:27 <pa_1289> hello I have a question about thunderbird
20:47:34 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: ask away
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20:49:01 <pa_1289> ok............I succesfully installed it...........an now I created an account, but the account is not shown. Only the "local folder" is shown although the account is listed in the preferences
20:49:17 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: did you tell thunderbird to store the app in the local folders?
20:49:52 <pa_1289> actullay no.......
20:50:11 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: in the setup of the account
20:50:14 <Gizmokid2005> there is an option for that
20:50:50 <Gizmokid2005> in the account wizard, third window, it has a checkbox called "Use Global Inbox (store mail in Local Folders)"
20:50:52 <pa_1289> ok wait a minute....
20:50:54 <Gizmokid2005> did you check that box?
20:51:01 <Gizmokid2005> er, leave it checked rather
20:52:44 <pa_1289> hmm I cannot find it
20:52:47 <Gizmokid2005> if you left it checked, you'll only see Local Folders and it's subfolders, as it won't create others specific to your account.
20:52:54 <Gizmokid2005> did you try clicking get mail?
20:53:23 <pa_1289> yes I did
20:53:26 <Gizmokid2005> Also, try double-clicking on "Local Folders" in the left folder pane, and see if it expands to show more folders under it.
20:53:45 <pa_1289> It shows the inbox
20:53:51 <Gizmokid2005> click on it
20:53:58 <Gizmokid2005> if you have no new email it won't show anything in there..
20:54:26 <pa_1289> yes of course..........but I want the accounts to be shown
20:54:42 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: then what you want to do
20:54:44 <Gizmokid2005> is delete the account
20:54:55 <pa_1289> ok
20:54:58 <Gizmokid2005> and recreate it, while UNchecking the option I said in the third step of the account creation
20:55:05 <Gizmokid2005> that will store EACH account in it's own folder
20:55:24 <pa_1289> ok let's see..........I try it
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20:56:18 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: that should do exactly what you want
20:56:54 <pa_1289> yeah I ve found it
20:57:03 <pa_1289> thx a lot
20:57:07 <Gizmokid2005> yw pa_1289
20:58:41 <pa_1289> it works ;-)
21:00:28 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: good
21:01:34 <Gizmokid2005> anything else pa_1289?
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21:03:18 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: how should I handle the java thing exactly?
21:03:50 <Gizmokid2005> as rssowl has a command line switch to use a specific version, should I hardcode it in the launcher, or should I put it in the .ini like a normal user would?
21:03:59 <JohnTHaller> Only use the location of java portable
21:04:11 <Gizmokid2005> so it should be hardcoded in the launcher then?
21:04:37 <pa_1289> sry?
21:04:46 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: anything else we can help you with?
21:05:10 <pa_1289> yeah..........I have the "not portable" version of thunderbird......I ve always been using the junk filter, but for a while it only shows "probale spam" in front of suspicious e mail. So it does not transfer it into the junk folder
21:05:41 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: that you'd have to check with the thunderbird folks on.
21:06:27 <pa_1289> You have no idea?
21:06:40 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: no, it might be a messed up preference, but I'm not sure
21:06:47 <Gizmokid2005> they'll know what to look at to figure it out
21:07:04 <pa_1289> do they have a support chat as well?
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21:07:31 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: yes, but i do not believe they have a widget like we do
21:07:35 <Gizmokid2005> you have to have an IRC client installed
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21:07:52 <pa_1289> miranda?
21:08:00 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1289: start there: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/
21:08:02 <Gizmokid2005> and miranda would work
21:08:11 <Gizmokid2005> they have a channel #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
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21:10:50 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: hard code into the launcher then?
21:11:00 <Gizmokid2005> or should it be .ini in case the user wants to specify their own vm?
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21:11:52 <Gizmokid2005> I could see users who are only testing or just use portableapps on a single computer not needing to have to portablize java and be ok using their own installed java.
21:12:18 <JohnTHaller> you can if you want. but it's not required.
21:13:25 <Gizmokid2005> which part JohnTHaller? use the .ini?
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21:14:42 <JohnTHaller> you don't have to do anything at all. it can just use Java Portable. you can do additional stuff, but you don't have to
21:15:11 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: i don't think it'll look there by default..it's going to look in normal locations for java first.
21:16:24 <JohnTHaller> It should checik Java Portable first
21:16:48 <JohnTHaller> that's the main supported location and the one the user can be sure is the version they want (as opposed to whatever happens to be on the PC, if anything)
21:16:56 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, ok
21:17:19 <Gizmokid2005> so, I could add that to the launcher to use -vm switch if NONE is present AND Java Portable exists, else check for the -vm switch, else continue normally
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21:19:49 <JohnTHaller> if none what is present?
21:20:02 <Gizmokid2005> if no -vm switch is already present in the .ini
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21:25:47 <JohnTHaller> ah ok
21:26:41 <Gizmokid2005> should work then?
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21:32:35 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
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21:36:44 <MaienM> RELEASE: The Mana World Portable 0.0.29 Pre-Release 5: http://portableapps.com/node/18809
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21:41:27 <diib> im getting a cell phone all! :D
21:42:55 * Gizmokid2005 hands diib a cookie...congrats/
21:42:56 <Gizmokid2005> *?
21:43:06 <SergentSiler> lol
21:43:35 <diib> im sharing my moms minutes
21:43:50 <diib> so is my sister
21:45:32 * ZachThibeau predicts his mother will take his cellphone in less than 2 weeks :P
21:46:09 * Gizmokid2005 concurs with ZachThibeau
21:48:48 <MaienM> nah
21:48:54 <MaienM> it won't take that long
21:49:05 <ZachThibeau> MaienM: sooner?
21:49:42 <MaienM> probably not.... I would guess the bills are monthly, so unless she keeps track using the net or somehing t will last about a month :P
21:50:33 <diib> free calls on the weekends though starting at 9pm friday. :D
21:51:23 <ZachThibeau> so not bad
21:51:38 <ZachThibeau> as long as you use it during those periods
21:51:50 <ZachThibeau> then I estimate it would be 4-5 weeks then :)
21:52:42 <Gizmokid2005> bbl, time to make dinner
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21:53:58 <pabot> Suiseiseki is desu
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21:56:18 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
21:56:24 <ZachThibeau> morning ChrisMorgan
21:56:42 <ChrisMorgan> morning ZachThibeau :-)
21:56:46 <MaienM> hello ChrisMorgan
21:56:55 <ChrisMorgan> hello MaienM
21:56:57 <ZachThibeau> actaully ChrisMorgan it's afternoon for me :P
21:57:12 <MaienM> its night for me :P
21:57:19 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: status update for BPBible Dutch translation?
21:57:34 <ChrisMorgan> Well, it's 8AM here. So you did well, ZachThibeau... for a Canadian ;-)
21:57:40 <MaienM> ChrisMorgan: 44%, but this weekend I'll finally have time to work on it :)
21:57:46 <ChrisMorgan> Good, thanks
21:57:57 <MaienM> chances are I'll ve able to finish it tomorrow ;)
21:58:04 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: well I work with a bunch of australians working on a gba emu :P you learn these things quickly :D
21:58:11 <ChrisMorgan> :P
21:58:38 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: could you please release BPBible Portable 0.4.3? 0.4.4 should be coming out soon (i.e. next week) but you know how it goes...
21:58:59 * ChrisMorgan should update ReadINIStrWithDefault and the PortableApps.com Installer in the BPBible SVN repository
21:59:57 <JohnTHaller> already told you I'm WAY behind
22:00:00 <JohnTHaller> so it'll have to wait
22:00:07 <ChrisMorgan> OK
22:00:19 <JohnTHaller> everything is waiting on the new PA.c installer with the win7 patch, etc, which I'm working on right now
22:00:22 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: one guy in our class, for something to do in a free period, went using Google Maps from his phone, watching how much he was spending... he got to 2MB: $5. Crazy. Especially as at school network rates it'd only be $0.30...
22:00:32 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: I found a bug in your makensis.exe for win 7...
22:00:38 <JohnTHaller> what
22:00:51 <gluxon> Um.. in EclipseNSIS, it doesn't work.
22:01:06 <gluxon> It complains about the versioning not being 2.0 or above.
22:01:07 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: is it in the path?
22:01:11 <gluxon> Yes.
22:01:12 <ChrisMorgan> ah
22:01:23 <JohnTHaller> yeah, that's Eclipse's fault.
22:01:30 <JohnTHaller> It won't work with SVN builds of NSIS either
22:01:35 <gluxon> ?
22:01:51 <gluxon> But have you made the version number different?
22:01:52 <ChrisMorgan> Version number... probably it only recognises "2.44" as the latest, and so it doesn't recognise "2.44.1" as valid
22:01:54 <JohnTHaller> nightly builds of NSIS. eclipse can't use them either
22:02:05 <ChrisMorgan> That's silly.
22:02:06 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
22:02:29 <gluxon> Oh well,
22:02:32 <JohnTHaller> NSIS uses characters in the version number for unofficial releases like mine. Eclipse is expecting a X.YY number and won'
22:02:34 <JohnTHaller> t get it
22:02:43 <gluxon> Oh..
22:02:52 <gluxon> then I'll just get the source and recompile.
22:02:55 <JohnTHaller> so yeah, you can't use it with Eclipse.
22:03:34 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: how's the new installer going?
22:04:00 <ChrisMorgan> Also, any news on how're hardware partnerships shaping up, or is it still under wraps?
22:04:29 <JohnTHaller> good. it's functionally equivalent to the current standard one as of 5 minutes ago now but with the bugs fixed. I'm adding in the final bits which will let you do optional sections just by defining the files (you won't have to manually move stuff into AppNamePortableOptional1 anymore).
22:04:58 <ChrisMorgan> That sounds nice.
22:05:06 <JohnTHaller> It uses the standard PA.c Installer icon as the main one now. And generates a proper header BMP with the app's icon for both LTR and RTL language display.
22:05:10 <ChrisMorgan> Files/directories I presume?
22:05:16 <JohnTHaller> yup
22:05:25 <ChrisMorgan> Good.
22:06:16 <ChrisMorgan> One question on that, some apps will have a "langs" or equivalent directory, and you want it to be the optional section, but it silll needs the "langs" directory to be there. Can that be done, or would you need to specify each individual file/folder in it?
22:08:56 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: I reckon you're not strong enough in your post on ie7...
22:17:43 <ZachThibeau> yeah maybe you could add to it
22:17:48 <ZachThibeau> anyways I need to run
22:17:53 <ZachThibeau> I'm going for the weekend now
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22:18:34 <ChrisMorgan> Bye ZachT|AFK
22:31:39 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: You'll be able to do whole directories or just files using a mask.
22:31:51 <ChrisMorgan> Ah, good, I like it!
22:31:53 <JohnTHaller> I have it doing whole directories now. Finishing up the file-only code.
22:32:04 <ChrisMorgan> Good-o.
22:32:29 <JohnTHaller> Just tried it with FileZilla Portable and it works just right with the whole directories. Gonna get it working with files only for keepass (it keeps lang files in the same directory as keepass.exe_
22:32:48 <ChrisMorgan> I for my part with my launcher implemented ConfigWrite and WriteINIStr sections yesterday in about 10 minutes... LogicLib definitely speeds things up!
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22:47:55 <JohnTHaller> Holy crap it works
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22:57:22 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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23:05:07 <ChrisMorgan|away> eep!
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23:05:37 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: glad it works, but...
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23:08:55 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: just thinking about the installer as an app, BPBible currently uses a python script to build it all, including updating the version number and compiling the installer; will it still be possible to have it completely automated with a centralised installer thing?
23:10:08 <JohnTHaller> Yes. You don't need to edit anything within the installer scripts. Just appinfo.ini and (optionally) installer.ini. You can call the installer from the commandline and pass it the base app's directory and it'll compile it. Right now it leaves it on screen though so you have the results.
23:10:55 <ChrisMorgan> OK, good :-)
23:11:18 <ChrisMorgan> Currently the script just runs makensis.exe which is command-line, but a GUI app is still fine :-)
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23:12:55 <ChrisMorgan> I think BPBible leads the pack with support of its PortableApps.com edition... linked to from the homepage, complete build for it... but then, the large majority of our downloads are of the portable edition
23:13:11 <JohnTHaller> Alright... I'm debating something...
23:13:30 <JohnTHaller> I'm making the installer more automated when in use. When you trigger it from the PA.c Menu, it'll just install
23:13:47 <JohnTHaller> When run from the updater, it'll install and then close automatically (allowing chaining of multiple updates)
23:14:15 <JohnTHaller> I have the component page able to detect what type of install you did last time and auto-pick it... skipping the component page for the installer when run from the updater....
23:14:46 <JohnTHaller> I'm debating whether to have it skip the component page when run from the PA.c platform, too. You'd still be able to run it by itself if you decided to switch components later.
23:15:59 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm. With BPBible installing the optional component again will just make it install the books again, even if they've been deleted..
23:16:03 <ChrisMorgan> But normally it won't matter.
23:16:37 <JohnTHaller> normally it's only for additional languages... and only a handful of apps do it
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23:16:44 <pabot> daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311
23:17:37 <ChrisMorgan> Cornice is an interesting situation, we had a guy in for support a few weeks ago on a Spanish computer, Cornice ran in Spanish as it uses the Windows language rather than the PA.c one. My eventual advice was to remove the language directory.
23:18:02 <ChrisMorgan> Normally though I reckon auto-fill it through the platform as well.
23:18:36 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon the vast majority of users will leave the components as they are. So yes, I reckon skip it.
23:18:51 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: would it install the component page items by default, or not?
23:19:25 <ChrisMorgan> I'm assuming that on the first install it would ask the user?
23:19:34 <JohnTHaller> yeah. first install it'll ask
23:19:45 <JohnTHaller> subsequent, it'll base it on what was already there
23:20:02 <MaienM> in that case I'd say, skip it ;)
23:20:31 <ChrisMorgan> Actually, here's an idea. Just so it doesn't happen for e.g. BPBible, add in an INI option to specify whether the optional section is langauges, and then if the platform is non-English, do it automatically on first run, otherwise ask.
23:22:02 <JohnTHaller> already in there
23:22:08 <ChrisMorgan> Good!
23:22:44 <dbdii407> I have my phone! :D
23:22:45 <JohnTHaller> thin we're still gonna ask on first run though. someone who prefers spanish but also speaks english may opt to install gimp in english only to save space
23:23:07 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, that's so.
23:24:05 <ChrisMorgan> It'd be /nice/ if later we could have subsections done this way, i.e. let the user select which languages they want to install.
23:24:16 <JohnTHaller> WAY too complicated
23:24:27 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. FileMask1=de; SectionName=German
23:24:29 <JohnTHaller> yer gonna have to define all sorts of stuff for each app.
23:24:33 <JohnTHaller> multiple directories
23:24:39 <JohnTHaller> multiple sections
23:24:46 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon it could be managed, but for the moment it's good as it is.
23:24:51 <JohnTHaller> it would make for a lot of work for each app
23:24:53 <ChrisMorgan> Updating would be the hardest bit of it
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23:24:57 <JohnTHaller> and there's only like 2 apps that actually benefit
23:25:04 <JohnTHaller> gimp and gnucash
23:25:17 <JohnTHaller> everything else, the langs are only a couple megs
23:25:31 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, new releases could be troublesome, needing reassessment to make sure you caught everything.
23:26:24 <JohnTHaller> i think i'm gonna leave components coming up within the pa platform launched installers. user is interacting with it, so it won't be unusua
23:27:27 <JohnTHaller> alright, I need to run to dinner. want me to email you the current build so you can check it out?
23:27:54 <ChrisMorgan> I doubt I'll get time to look at it today, but I'd be interested to see it. You decide :P
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23:42:16 <ChrisMorgan> Wonder how portablisation will go with BPBible-NG (XULRunner+PyXPCOM)... there may be interesting issues with a side-by-side manifest for Visual C runtime 2009 or something I'm told by Ben.
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23:53:24 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
23:53:43 <daBomb69> gluxon, perhaps you should build an ark...
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23:54:03 <SergentSiler> http://giraffepwnsalgebra.ytmnd.com/ EPIC WIN
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23:54:46 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
23:55:31 <ChrisMorgan> Tut tut, gluxon... two excess floods in two minutes...
23:55:41 <gluxon> .. :D
23:55:44 <daBomb69> gluxon, GET TEH ARK :P
23:55:49 <gluxon> Wha's the ark?
23:55:59 <gluxon> ChrisMorgan: It's a record... is it? :D
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23:56:09 <MaienM> gluxon: nope :P
23:56:15 <gluxon> grrr...
23:56:22 * daBomb69 bets Ben has beat that
23:56:23 <MaienM> Bensawsome managed to get like 30+ in a row once :P
23:56:32 <gluxon> ..
23:56:34 <gluxon> I'll do it!
23:56:37 <daBomb69> lol
23:56:38 <gluxon> :D heheheeheheh
23:56:39 <MaienM> and that was just in the 20 minutes I was there :P
23:56:40 <gluxon> In how long?
23:56:43 <daBomb69> not supprised
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23:56:59 <MaienM> ..... -_-
23:57:02 <SergentSiler> LOL
23:57:10 <SergentSiler> .tell gluxon FAIL XD
23:57:11 <pabot> SergentSiler: I'll pass that on when I next see gluxon.
23:57:13 <daBomb69> and i just had to be in the channel gluxon's flooding
23:57:13 <MaienM> anyway
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23:57:45 <ChrisMorgan> gnite MaienM|Sleep
23:57:46 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
23:57:53 <daBomb69> Night MaienM|Sleep
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23:58:25 <MaienM|Sleep> night all
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23:58:44 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
23:58:50 <SergentSiler> gluxon fail EPICLY
23:59:22 <gluxon> I never knew Lorem Ipsum can be used for IRC abuse :D