IRC Log from 2009-05-16

00:00:05 <daBomb69> Untill you get muted that is
00:03:45 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: if you try to output something of more than 1024 characters in length, bang.
00:03:56 <gluxon> ...
00:04:23 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> gluxon: or if you try to send too many lines at once to the server.
00:04:30 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> you seem to be having an issue with that right now...
00:04:39 <gluxon> I know :D
00:04:45 <SergentSiler> ...
00:05:31 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005|AFK, he's trying to beat Ben's 30 in 20 min record
00:05:39 <SergentSiler> lol
00:08:01 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> if he keeps it up in here he's getting banned
00:08:04 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> until he's done
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00:39:13 <pabot> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
00:39:28 <SergentSiler> ello upnPAD
00:39:31 <ChrisMorgan> Hey yoopy
00:42:10 <upnPAD> yo SergentSiler
00:42:41 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: why do you want Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat Portable? They're all in DT or PR.
00:42:52 <upnPAD> official ;)
00:43:03 <upnPAD> x-moto is in 'dev' too
00:43:07 <upnPAD> wow i havent played that game in ages
00:43:07 <ChrisMorgan> And why on earth would you want Chris Morgan Portable!?
00:43:13 <ChrisMorgan> is it?
00:43:18 <SergentSiler> lol
00:43:33 <ChrisMorgan> Well, XChat won't be going official because of how it's stopped development as open source.
00:43:38 <upnPAD> so it's all in one folder to delete
00:43:55 <ChrisMorgan> If you want Code::Blocks or Inkscape, get others on the RT to look at them...
00:44:40 <upnPAD> rt?
00:44:47 <SergentSiler> release team
00:44:57 <upnPAD> whats that
00:45:10 <upnPAD> xchat isnt open source anymore
00:45:10 <upnPAD> WTH?
00:45:17 <SergentSiler> ya
00:45:20 <SergentSiler> u didnt hear?
00:45:36 <upnPAD> screw xchat then ;/
00:46:16 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: better update your def then ;-)
00:46:29 <SergentSiler> upnPAD, silverex :P
00:46:50 <upnPAD> true
00:46:59 <upnPAD> yeah i use silverex's
00:48:19 <SergentSiler> and u can still grab the source off of xchat
00:49:13 <upnPAD> ?
00:49:32 <SergentSiler> xchat's website still allows for u to download the source
00:50:37 <upnPAD> ../? so it is opensource?
00:52:07 <ChrisMorgan> Development on it now appears to be closed source
00:57:27 <SergentSiler> http://www.xchat.org/files/source/2.8/?N=D
01:03:53 <upnPAD> .def upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
01:03:54 <pabot> .def manipulation is only allowed in #rmccue
01:04:04 <SergentSiler> lol
01:04:06 <upnPAD> ..
01:04:18 <SergentSiler> join #rmccue to do it :P
01:04:20 <upnPAD> .def upnPAD
01:04:21 <pabot> upnPAD: upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
01:04:26 <upnPAD> damn didnt work
01:04:32 <upnPAD> i mean the notice didnt
01:04:35 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD wants CodeBlocks and Inkscape to become official! His website is http://upnpad.com
01:04:42 <ChrisMorgan> remember to .forgetme
01:04:43 <SergentSiler> lol
01:05:02 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks and Inkscape Portable to become official! His website is http://upnpad.com
01:05:21 <upnPAD> .def upnPAD
01:05:22 <pabot> upnPAD: upnPAD wants official releases of Code::Blocks, Inkscape, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
01:06:03 <ChrisMorgan> Don't put a . after it - that'll break in some clients
01:06:12 <ChrisMorgan> And really, don't bother with the last / either
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01:08:10 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Hawy ;-)
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01:12:06 <pabot> daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311
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01:38:34 <ChrisMorgan> Hey rmccue! Would you mind if I took over Scribus?
01:39:25 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: Not at all.
01:44:11 <ChrisMorgan> Just to speed things up, what does it store?
01:46:16 <rmccue> You mean, where?
01:47:04 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah
01:47:15 <ChrisMorgan> (I prefer to do new launchers rather than rewrite them)
01:48:19 <rmccue> From memory, I think it has bits in the registry and in AppData.
01:48:28 <ChrisMorgan> OK, thanks
01:48:35 <rmccue> You also have to deal with Ghostscript, which, from memory, was a pain.
01:48:44 <ChrisMorgan> Eww. Yuck!
01:48:50 <ChrisMorgan> Should I write a traditional launcher, or should I use my launcher test?
01:49:20 <ChrisMorgan> Maybe I will at least look at your launcher.
01:50:00 <ChrisMorgan> Opening up the installer with 7-Zip has the advantage that you see their target directories to a certain degree - e.g. msvc*71.dll are in $SYSDIR :-)
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02:12:55 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD/upnPAD|2: can we have just one of you?
02:13:21 <daBomb69> but, he's just /sooo/ awsome, we need 2 :P
02:13:33 <ChrisMorgan> No!
02:13:44 <daBomb69> jk
02:14:43 <rmccue> I think we need about 3 less of him.
02:15:17 * daBomb69 runs off to get a calculator
02:16:24 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: /nick upnPAD|-1 ;-)
02:16:30 <daBomb69> oh
02:17:06 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: Yeouch! You kill PATH in your Scribus launcher!
02:17:15 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: Yep.
02:17:20 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: Live with it.
02:18:09 <rmccue> It only persists for the children processes, not for all processes.
02:18:21 <ChrisMorgan> I'll just use my launcher and have a line "PATH=$PORTABLEAPPSCOMMONFILES\Ghostscript;$APPDIR\Ghostscript;{&}" :D
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02:18:31 <ChrisMorgan> That way it'll work with common files and App
02:19:00 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: I know, but what if Scribus needs e.g. a DLL for some call? You might kill it! :o
02:19:25 <rmccue> If I remember correctly, it only appends.
02:19:57 <ChrisMorgan> It doesn't.
02:20:10 <ChrisMorgan> System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("PATH", "$GSDIRECTORY").r0'
02:22:29 <rmccue> Yeah, I dunno. :P
02:24:48 <ChrisMorgan> Seeing as Ghostscript is only 1377KB, I think I may drop CommonFiles support.
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02:24:59 <pabot> Whibo is a portableapps.com user
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02:37:15 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: does Scribus run at all if Ghostscript isn't there?
02:37:34 <rmccue> ChrisMorgan: I think so, but it needs it for fonts or something.
02:38:20 <ChrisMorgan> k
02:38:46 <ChrisMorgan> Think I'll drop checks for it, store it in App\Ghostscript only.
02:39:28 <ChrisMorgan> Which leaves me with: http://mibbit.com/pb/aRbJuL
02:40:05 <ChrisMorgan> I need to expand a bit on my UpdateDriveLetter bit though.
02:40:58 <ChrisMorgan> Currently it just does X:\ format, you've got `"X:\` and `"X:/` - it'd be OK without the starting " wouldn't it?
02:45:57 <rmccue> Mebbe.
02:46:59 <ChrisMorgan> OK, this should work perfectly with my working copy and your file structure :-) http://mibbit.com/pb/YibmcD
02:47:13 <ChrisMorgan> (My working copy of CPALT that is)
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02:55:48 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually), and is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626
02:56:04 <daBomb69> hey, could someone do a Regshot of FDM http://www.freedownloadmanager.org for me?
02:56:26 * daBomb69 really wants to PA this app, but already has it installed
02:57:07 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: you'll have a very hard time, it integrates with too many things. Too much functionality will be lost on a PortableApps.com edition of it.
02:57:34 <daBomb69> Oh
02:57:54 <daBomb69> Well, it does already have a portable mode
02:58:38 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: the main reason to use FDM is for a lot of downloads on a slower or not always on connection or something
02:58:48 <Gizmokid2005> it's a good app, and as daBomb69 said, already has a portable mode
02:58:55 <daBomb69> And, did you see it's feature list?
02:59:06 <ChrisMorgan> Does it? It didn't used to, that must be from the last year or so...
02:59:18 <ChrisMorgan> It's installed on this machine, we've only used it a few times :P
03:00:01 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: use a VM
03:00:21 <Gizmokid2005> that's how I use all of mine
03:00:23 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005, i don't happen to have a windows install disk lying around
03:00:25 <Gizmokid2005> I have two separate VMs I use.
03:00:32 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, that is a problem
03:00:46 <daBomb69> Yeah :(
03:02:06 <daBomb69> So, unless I use a pirated ISO, I'm screwed :'(
03:02:51 * daBomb69 also notes that no, he won't use a pirated one
03:02:54 <ChrisMorgan> And incidentally some of the leaked 7 builds are pre-botnet-infected :D
03:03:00 <ChrisMorgan> Poetic justice :D
03:03:22 <daBomb69> srsly?
03:03:36 <ChrisMorgan> srsly?
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03:07:22 <daBomb69> night Gizmokid2005|AFK
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03:14:02 <daBomb69> Hi TaffinFoxcroft
03:14:31 <TaffinFoxcroft> ohai
03:14:54 <TaffinFoxcroft> yay for week-long unexplained absences!
03:15:51 <daBomb69> lol
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03:17:41 <TaffinFoxcroft> hmm, for some reason pfsense has decided to be problematic with my router...
03:22:26 <ChrisMorgan> bye, guys. See you another day :-)
03:22:42 <Havvy> Cya CM
03:23:13 <ChrisMorgan> There's someone occupying the nick CM... ah well.
03:23:26 <ChrisMorgan> Claes Mogren... interesting.
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03:23:48 <Havvy> Wow, those names are similar...
03:23:53 <daBomb69> yasrsly
03:24:09 <Havvy> daBomb69: In English?
03:24:16 <daBomb69> ya srsly
03:24:28 * Havvy understood that.
03:24:36 <daBomb69> lol
03:24:39 * daBomb69 added a space
03:27:29 <Havvy> I put the space after the third letter in my mind...
03:32:53 <daBomb69> ;p;
03:32:59 <daBomb69> so, yas rsly?
03:33:26 <daBomb69> *:P
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03:35:20 <daBomb69> oh god...
03:35:31 <daBomb69> Now we have upnPAD #3 :O
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03:36:45 <pabot> Whibo is a portableapps.com user
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03:52:49 <pabot> Espreon is a lazy person who is awesome... If you give him a bottle of quality white tea good things will happen to you!
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03:56:30 <TaffinFoxcroft> ohai Espreon.
03:56:46 <Espreon> Hello TaffinFoxcroft.
03:56:59 * Espreon is addicted to HFCS ad parodies.
03:57:15 * TaffinFoxcroft is attempting to get pfSense working.
03:57:30 <TaffinFoxcroft> ...but he may just ditch it for debian.
03:58:14 * Espreon ditched Ubuntu for Sabayon about a week or two ago.
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04:00:32 <TaffinFoxcroft> .wik Sabayon
04:00:37 <pabot> "Zabaglione, an Italian dessert" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabayon
04:01:51 <Havvy> Fail.
04:01:58 <Havvy> .wik Sabayon Linux
04:02:01 <pabot> "Sabayon Linux or SabayonLinux, (formerly known as RR4 Linux/RR64 Linux), is a Gentoo-based Linux distribution created by Fabio Erculiani." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabayon_Linux
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04:02:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> Aaah! The Espreons are multiplying!
04:02:43 <TaffinFoxcroft> But don't worry, the culling started.
04:02:48 <Havvy> Double, and double again!
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04:04:56 <pabot> Espreon is a lazy person who is awesome... If you give him a bottle of quality white tea good things will happen to you!
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04:27:01 <pabot> PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com)
04:27:10 <TaffinFoxcroft> ohai PatrickPatience
04:28:03 <PatrickPatience> Hi.
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07:51:27 <mrr53> HI is there anyone to help me ?
07:52:13 <mrr53> I have a question about portableapps
07:52:26 <mrr53> its has many usefull feutures
07:52:27 <mrr53> but
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07:53:08 <mrr53> I want to know, that how is usefull, when we connect to a infected computer ?
07:53:31 <mrr53> before doing anything, the virus will be infect the USB flash drive !
07:53:40 <mrr53> so what is useful ?
07:53:49 <mrr53> can we write protect our flash drive ?
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09:53:52 <pabot> Suiseiseki is desu
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11:30:06 <diib> hey guys
11:30:47 <diib> im at the karate door but lets just say..... it ain't open O_o
11:32:21 <diib> i think im using their internet..... idk
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12:20:23 <sathish> help
12:20:24 <pabot> sathish: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
12:20:41 <sathish> i need to edit portableappmenus.ini file
12:20:45 <sathish> i could not find one
12:21:23 * sathish marvellous portableapps.com
12:23:19 <MaienM> sathish: it should be located in the Data folder inside the PortableApps.com folder
12:23:35 <MaienM> so, X:/PortableApps/PortableApps.com/Data/
12:23:47 <MaienM> where X: is your usb drive
12:24:45 <sathish> I am having in my hard disk itself
12:25:02 <MaienM> well then, what location did you install it to?
12:25:28 <sathish> I installed into D:\PortableApps
12:25:52 <sathish> I could see only PortableApps and Documents sub folder underneath
12:25:58 <MaienM> then look for the folder D:/PortableApps/PortableApps/PortableApps.com/Data/
12:26:48 <sathish> I found. Thanks.
12:26:50 <sathish> Another query.
12:26:54 <sathish> How to add languages
12:27:15 <MaienM> to the menu, I assume?
12:27:24 <MaienM> sathish: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#language
12:27:54 <sathish> If I add new locale file in locale folder, is that enough
12:28:04 <EspaNYaks> Yep
12:28:09 <MaienM> it should be, as far as I know
12:28:11 <sathish> I actually added up my language for translation for the upcoming 1.6 platform
12:28:30 <sathish> as 1.6 is yet to arrive, thought of adding up my own locale file
12:28:48 <MaienM> as long as the format is right, it should work ;)
12:28:58 <sathish> let me try it out.
12:29:10 <sathish> thanks for kind and quick help EspanNYaks and MaienM.
12:29:13 <sathish> have a good day.
12:29:15 <MaienM> I actually prefer to use the English version myself, so I've never tried
12:29:22 <MaienM> the same to you sathish :)
12:29:38 <sathish> Am trying adding a new locale file
12:29:59 <EspaNYaks> well, i didn't say much
12:30:07 <EspaNYaks> but your welcome
12:30:17 <EspaNYaks> & have a good day too!
12:33:11 <sathish> hi
12:33:25 <sathish> I did try to add up the locale file
12:33:36 <sathish> Language did come
12:33:41 <sathish> but it shows garbled
12:33:47 <sathish> I used unicode
12:33:51 <sathish> utf-8 text
12:34:02 <sathish> what could be the issue
12:34:30 <EspaNYaks> what do you mean with "garbled?
12:34:38 <MaienM> first, are you sure you are using the same format the other locales are using?
12:35:01 <sathish> Actually I copied the English.locale file
12:35:06 <sathish> And changed the text file
12:35:09 <sathish> content
12:35:15 <sathish> only localization
12:35:22 <EspaNYaks> So you are updating the english locale?
12:35:29 <sathish> a copy of it
12:35:32 <sathish> in new name
12:35:37 <sathish> and corresponding value I changed
12:37:04 <EspaNYaks> Did you insert "illegal" characters?
12:37:18 <sathish> I used Unicode characters for my language
12:37:31 <sathish> my language is Tamil locale id of 1097
12:38:50 <sathish> I need to move now.
12:38:54 <sathish> So bye for now.
12:38:55 <sathish> take care.
12:38:59 <MaienM> sathish: sorry, the menu does not support unicode atm
12:39:00 <MaienM> http://portableapps.com/node/13887#comment-86091
12:39:15 <sathish> when new menu comes in
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12:40:07 <MaienM> well, not sure the new menu supports it or not
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13:28:37 <pabot> MaienM is developing The Mana World Portable, and would like people to test it: http://www.portableapps.com/node/18809
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14:30:23 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
14:31:14 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
14:31:44 <SergentSiler> ello JohnTHaller
14:38:28 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello JohnTHaller
14:39:58 <JohnTHaller> hola
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14:41:31 <JohnTHaller> PortableApps.com Installer 0.90.0 has been posted to SourceForge.net. I'm updating the PAF spec and installer pages for it now.
14:43:28 <MaienM> 0.90.0? Isn't that like a huge jump in version numbering?
14:44:23 <JohnTHaller> yup. cuz we're just about ready for 1.0
14:44:34 <MaienM> sounds good :D
14:44:42 <JohnTHaller> it's all automated now
14:44:50 <MaienM> nice :)
14:45:09 <MaienM> guess I'll do a PR 6 later today then, with upgraded installer
14:45:21 <MaienM> any other things going to be upgraded soon I have to wait for?
14:45:43 <JohnTHaller> wait for the PAF spec since the installer uses it
14:45:58 <MaienM> k. Much gonna be changed?
14:50:47 <MaienM> btw, quick question, TMW 0.0.29 has a bug which breaks the command line option the portable version uses. I submitted a patch, which will be in 0.0.29.1. One of their devs made a custom build for me, based off the current release version + my patch. I assume it is no problem to use this custom build, is it?
14:51:11 <JohnTHaller> that's fine
14:51:27 <JohnTHaller> a few things. appinfo adds a couple fields that the PA.c installer needs in 0.90
14:51:55 <MaienM> hmm, k
14:52:12 <MaienM> I'll wait for all the new specs and stuff then, so I won't have to make yet another PR :P
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15:00:01 <pa_0816> Hello.........my Junk Filter does not work........a suspicious spam E-Mail is not shown in the Junk Folder. In front of the spam mail it only says "proable spam"
15:01:10 <pa_0816> help!
15:01:11 <pabot> pa_0816: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
15:01:49 <MaienM> pa_0816: I assume you are using portable Thunderbird?
15:02:10 <pa_0816> yes I do
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15:02:50 <MaienM> well, the question you are asking is more related to Thundebird itself
15:03:04 <pa_0816> so?
15:03:15 <MaienM> well, I don't know anything about thunderbird
15:03:23 <MaienM> and I think that goes for most here
15:03:34 <MaienM> so you're better off asking the mozilla people
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15:03:35 <SergentSiler> you have to "teach" thunderbird what is spam and what isnt
15:03:47 <pa_0816> but I am using thunderbird portable
15:03:59 <diib> support? ill wait.
15:04:10 <MaienM> yes, but your question isn't related to the portable version specifically, but to thunderbird in general
15:04:17 <SergentSiler> pa_0816, you still have to teach it what is spam and what isnt
15:04:31 <pa_0816> I did that
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15:06:24 <SergentSiler> after you start to teach it, it will start to catch on
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15:07:20 <SergentSiler> ://
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15:42:31 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
15:42:40 <SergentSiler> ello SteveLamerton
15:42:41 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
15:42:45 <SteveLamerton> Hi SergentSiler
15:43:00 <SteveLamerton> Much happening?
15:43:15 <SergentSiler> not really
15:44:15 <SteveLamerton> Good ;)
15:44:22 <SergentSiler> :P
15:46:28 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
15:47:01 <SteveLamerton> Hi Gizmokid2005, I see you have been busy :)
15:47:08 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: Me? Never ;)
15:47:56 <SteveLamerton> Yes, I saw another app by you in testing ;)
15:48:51 <Gizmokid2005> :)
15:48:52 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
15:49:08 <Gizmokid2005> and with this one I Have to try to manipulate more than previously thought...so it ought to be interesting.
15:49:44 <SteveLamerton> Nothing like a challenge ;)
15:50:58 <Gizmokid2005> well it's a unique challenge as it's a java app, and the location of the VM can be set via launch parameter...so I need to figure out how to see if that exact launch parameter exists...
15:52:26 <SteveLamerton> Ahhhh ok, wish I could help, not done launcher work in a long time though!
15:53:19 <Gizmokid2005> haha yeah. It shouldn't be too hard, as I think FFP has it in it's launcher, I just have to check for "-vm" in the additional parameters in the .ini.
15:53:57 <SteveLamerton> Sounds good :)
15:54:07 <Gizmokid2005> yep
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16:39:49 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually), and is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626
16:42:13 <purple> anyones opinion on this http://www.codyssey.com/products/codysafe.html ??
16:44:51 <SergentSiler> thats actually kinda kewl lookin
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16:57:57 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
16:58:09 <SteveLamerton> Hello again all
16:58:13 <SergentSiler> wb
16:59:42 <Gizmokid2005> wb SteveLamerton :)
17:01:08 <SteveLamerton> Hi SergentSiler, Gizmokid2005
17:23:29 <sar3th> purple: it's a fork of our platform i guess
17:24:02 <SergentSiler> seems that way to meh
17:24:32 <sar3th> even though i cannot find any source code to prove that...strange..
17:25:30 <SteveLamerton> I guess we are talking about the link that was here: http://portableapps.com/node/19115#comment-119115 ?
17:25:58 <sar3th> no SteveLamerton, http://www.codyssey.com/products/codysafe.html
17:26:26 <sar3th> ah okay maybe you're right ^^ i can't tell because of the removed linky
17:26:33 <SteveLamerton> Yes, that was what was linked too ;)
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18:20:16 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
18:20:26 <SergentSiler> wb JTH
18:20:57 <Bensawsome> why hello :)
18:21:29 <JohnTHaller> hola
18:22:27 <JohnTHaller> New PortableApps.com Format Spec: http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format
18:22:40 <SergentSiler> kewl
18:22:50 <SergentSiler> BTW, any updates to the theming engine yet?
18:23:38 <JohnTHaller> no
18:23:43 <SergentSiler> kk
18:23:58 <SergentSiler> can i assume it will be as-is for a while?
18:24:23 <JohnTHaller> no
18:24:30 <SergentSiler> kk :/
18:24:34 <JohnTHaller> it's finalizing with 1.6 which is coming soon
18:24:43 <SergentSiler> ah, good :)
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18:25:59 <Bensawsome> :DDDDD
18:27:57 <Bensawsome> WOOOOO
18:28:04 <Bensawsome> eurovision tiem :D
18:29:00 <SergentSiler> lol
18:29:16 <Bensawsome> oh sry did that in main channel :S
18:32:42 <SteveLamerton> Heya John :)
18:33:27 <JohnTHaller> howdy
18:33:34 <JohnTHaller> see the new spec?
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18:35:44 <MaienM_> I see the installer config changed a lot ;)
18:36:00 <pa_3982> hello, i've got a problem with portable apps, can you help me ?
18:36:13 <MaienM_> pa_3982: what is the problem you are having
18:36:31 <pa_3982> i've installed portableapps buti can't load the platform
18:37:01 <MaienM_> are you getting any errors?
18:37:17 <pa_3982> no, nothing
18:37:34 <MaienM_> how are you trying to run it?
18:37:50 <MaienM_> and where did you install it to?
18:37:52 <pa_3982> in the task bar, right click
18:37:59 <pa_3982> on my usb key
18:39:00 <MaienM_> then try to run X:/StartPortableApps.exe
18:39:05 <MaienM_> where X: is you usb drive
18:39:44 <pa_3982> yes, i already done it, portableapps is running, but i can't load the platform
18:40:01 <MaienM_> just clicking on the icon should work.....
18:40:06 <MaienM_> not right click, left click
18:40:12 <pa_3982> no, i can't
18:41:46 <MaienM_> thats weird.... I've never had that problem
18:41:49 <pa_3982> look : http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=090516084814384496.jpg
18:42:19 <MaienM_> as I said, left click on it, not right click
18:42:58 <pa_3982> it doesn't work
18:43:12 <pa_3982> look at the picture, i can't
18:43:20 <SergentSiler> use the other mouse button
18:43:31 <MaienM_> well thats the menu that should show up a right click, not at left click
18:43:51 <MaienM_> I dunno what is wrong if that shows up at left click :/
18:44:13 <pa_3982> it doesn't work
18:44:46 <SergentSiler> what happens when you use the other mouse button?
18:44:46 <JohnTHaller> left click on the PA.c icon in your system tray
18:44:48 <JohnTHaller> don'
18:44:51 <JohnTHaller> don't right-click on it
18:45:11 <JohnTHaller> the entry PortableApps.com Platform in that popup menu is just a title... it's not clickable
18:45:18 <pa_3982> i've already done that, it doesn't work
18:45:42 <JohnTHaller> Ok, click off of it onto something else to make it go away. Then left-click on the PortableApps.com icon in the system tray.
18:46:23 <pa_3982> sorry, it doesn't work
18:48:00 <JohnTHaller> the picture doesn't help
18:48:10 <JohnTHaller> hang on... wrong window
18:48:16 <pa_3982> no, it explain my problem
18:48:33 <JohnTHaller> No, it doesn't. It shows you can right-click on the PA.c icon to get the simple menu.
18:48:57 <JohnTHaller> We're asking you to left click on tha PA.c icon in the system tray. Now the words "PortableApps.com Platform" in the popup menu.
18:49:12 <JohnTHaller> Now = Not... Not the words
18:49:33 <JohnTHaller> Can you left click (aka normal mouse click) on other icons in your system tray)?
18:50:03 <pa_3982> yes
18:50:06 <pa_3982> it work
18:50:15 <pa_3982> but no for pa
18:50:22 <JohnTHaller> Ok, close it and then restart it
18:50:29 <JohnTHaller> does the menu show when you first run it?
18:50:51 <pa_3982> no, i've never seen it
18:51:49 <JohnTHaller> It comes up right away when you run it. So it's displaying somewhere not visible to you.
18:51:58 <JohnTHaller> Do you have more than one monitor?
18:52:16 <pa_3982> no, only one
18:52:37 <pa_3982> i think the problem isn't here, maybe on the config ?
18:52:58 <JohnTHaller> Ok, close the menu down by right-clicking and selecting Quitter
18:53:18 <pa_3982> maybe i should trying reinstall portable apps ?
18:53:21 <JohnTHaller> Then browe to your portable drive and go to the X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data directory.
18:53:28 <pa_3982> ok that's done
18:53:36 <JohnTHaller> Delete everything in that directory
18:53:44 <pa_3982> done
18:53:56 <JohnTHaller> Now go back to X:\ and run StartPortableApps.exe
18:54:19 <pa_3982> done
18:54:25 <JohnTHaller> did the menu come up?
18:54:26 <pa_3982> nothing has changed
18:54:51 <JohnTHaller> did you exit out first like I said so there was no PA.c logo in the system tray?
18:55:16 <pa_3982> yes, i've made all you've said
18:55:20 <JohnTHaller> Hmm
18:55:41 <JohnTHaller> What else can you tell me about your system? Laptop vs desktop, what OS, what kind of display, whether you have another video port, etc?
18:56:38 <pa_3982> so, i've got a deskop computer with windows xp, my usb key is a memup 4gb bought last week
18:57:21 <pa_3982> on my old usb key, i had pa and it worked, so the problem came not from my computer
18:58:01 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... odd. Did you install the current 1.5.2 release on it?
18:58:32 <pa_3982> i've just downloaded it from portableapps.com, just the platform
18:59:10 <JohnTHaller> Hmm.... know what version is on your old drive?
18:59:22 <pa_3982> the same
18:59:41 <pa_3982> i've upgrated it in the same time
18:59:47 <JohnTHaller> and the old drive works fine?
18:59:53 <pa_3982> yes
19:00:02 <JohnTHaller> How is the new drive formatted? fat32 or ntfs?
19:00:41 <pa_3982> fat32
19:00:56 <JohnTHaller> very odd. you use the drive for anything else yet? seem to be working ok?
19:01:14 <pa_3982> yeah, i stored documents
19:01:27 <pa_3982> should i convert into ntfs with cmd ?
19:01:41 <JohnTHaller> No not yet
19:01:48 <pa_3982> ok
19:01:48 <JohnTHaller> Ok, browse to X:\PortableApps
19:01:52 <pa_3982> done
19:01:57 <JohnTHaller> And drag the PortableApps.com directory onto your PC's desktop
19:02:15 <pa_3982> done
19:02:18 <JohnTHaller> let it copy (you don't have to move it)
19:02:24 <JohnTHaller> Then open that up and run PortableAppsPlatform.exe
19:02:25 <pa_3982> done
19:03:02 <pa_3982> the same thing, it doesn't work
19:03:24 <JohnTHaller> ok, close it. expand your system tray to be sure no other PA.c icons are there.
19:03:38 <pa_3982> done
19:03:56 <JohnTHaller> then in that PortableApps.com directory on your desktop, open up the Data directory... delete everything in there... then in PortableApps.com run PortableAppsPlatform.exe again
19:04:30 <pa_3982> nothing has changed
19:04:49 <JohnTHaller> hmm...
19:04:59 <JohnTHaller> you say you already tried reinstalling it on your drive, right?
19:05:09 <pa_3982> yeah, two times
19:05:24 <pa_3982> i try to convert it
19:05:27 <JohnTHaller> hmm... I really can think of what it could be.
19:05:36 <JohnTHaller> no, fat32 is less problematic than ntfs
19:05:49 <JohnTHaller> try your old drive again on your pc right now just to be sure it still comes up
19:06:55 <pa_3982> my old is allright
19:07:15 <pa_3982> i try to convert it and if it still doesn't work, i will reconvert
19:07:39 <JohnTHaller> try copying that PortableApps.com directory from your old to your new drive, too
19:08:19 <pa_3982> already done, doesn't work
19:08:45 <JohnTHaller> how bout if you copy the old drives portableapps.com directory to your desktop?
19:09:04 <pa_3982> no it oesn't work
19:09:23 <JohnTHaller> very odd.
19:09:39 <JohnTHaller> I can't quite figure out what's going on... but something is definitely out of the ordinary somewhere in there.
19:09:52 <JohnTHaller> Just as one last thing...
19:10:12 <JohnTHaller> Try the current Platform 1.6 pre-release on your new drive: http://portableapps.com/node/18859
19:10:39 <pa_3982> it work !!!!!!!!
19:10:44 <pa_3982> thanks a lot
19:11:11 <JohnTHaller> huh... weird.
19:11:16 <JohnTHaller> well, I'm glad THAT worked :-)
19:11:35 <JohnTHaller> You can use that for now. Some of the strings in it are in English (not yet translated) but a new release of it will be coming out this week.
19:11:36 <pa_3982> bye
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19:11:48 <JohnTHaller> weird... heh
19:12:02 <JohnTHaller> ok.... new PA.c Format Spec is online: http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format
19:12:12 <JohnTHaller> new PA.c Installer is online: http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_installer
19:12:13 <MaienM_> "Multimonitor Support" << maybe he had some sort of virual second monitor, which he might or might not have known about?
19:12:22 <JohnTHaller> that's my guess
19:15:44 <MaienM_> about the languages part..... is there any reason why you would not want to make the installer multilingual? or should you only include the languages the app itself supports too?
19:16:36 <JohnTHaller> depends on how you feel about it. personally, I like making em multilingual... but users may get confused if the installer supports Spanish... but the app doesn't.
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19:18:18 <pabot> Espreon is a lazy person who is awesome... If you give him a bottle of quality white tea good things will happen to you!
19:22:30 <SteveLamerton> Nice work John :)
19:22:41 <JohnTHaller> Like it?
19:24:26 <SteveLamerton> I like the fact that is it all up and official :) I shall take a look in a few minutes, I guess this is the precursor to a big batch of updates?
19:25:03 <JohnTHaller> Ayyyup
19:25:20 <SteveLamerton> Ooohh, I like the new bitmap ;)
19:26:23 <SteveLamerton> The icon looks awesome scaled up too ;)
19:27:19 <JohnTHaller> thanks
19:27:42 <JohnTHaller> We put a good amount of work into the installer branding.
19:27:51 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh, apparently Toucan is missing the AppID ;)
19:28:07 <JohnTHaller> Installers now use a generic icon but have the app's icon within them in the header. I wrote a quick app to create the header BMPs from the appicon.ico.
19:28:16 <JohnTHaller> And here's the announcement: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-05-16_-_portableapps.com_installer_0.90.0
19:32:13 <SteveLamerton> Looking good :)
19:40:18 <MaienM_> I assume the whole [SpecialPaths] part may be left out if there are no plugins?
19:41:53 <JohnTHaller> yup
19:41:58 <JohnTHaller> most of the sections are like that
19:42:43 <MaienM_> maybe make it say "in the optional section" like with the options ones of the installer? you know, to avoid confusion
19:44:18 <JohnTHaller> done
19:44:19 <JohnTHaller> :-)
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20:03:15 <JohnTHaller> how can we help you pa_6344
20:05:04 <pa_6344> hi, I just downloaded your software and have a swivel verbatim 32gb USB flash drive I want the portable apps software to appear in the taskbar and start menu every time I plug the USB flash in the computer
20:06:56 <JohnTHaller> As long as you install the PortableApps.com Platform (or Suite) to the root directory (X:\) of your drive, Windows will pop up the autoplay dialog with it selected as the first option: http://portableapps.com/suite#support
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20:08:42 <JohnTHaller> If you'd like Windows to run it without asking, we have an experimental helper app that you can install on your hard drive and have Windows run in the background on startup that will automatically launch the PortableApps.com Platform when you plug it in: http://portableapps.com/node/13770
20:09:19 <JohnTHaller> Does that answer your question, pa_6344?
20:10:02 <pa_6344> yes, thankyou, please hold a moment as I try that
20:14:39 <pa_6344> excuse me, you the (x:\) drive, and will thagt work just on the same computer or every time I plug it in to a random computer????
20:16:40 <JohnTHaller> The windows autoplay prompt will come on on every PC (unless it's been purposely disabled).
20:16:57 <JohnTHaller> The autorunner I mentioned is supposed to be installed on the local PC and only works on PCs you install it on.
20:17:46 <pa_6344> where will I find the x:\ I have a c:\ (of course) (d:\,) ( e:\,) ( r:\)
20:18:21 <JohnTHaller> Whatever your drive is setup as (it varies)... open up My Computer to find out. We use X:\ just to indicate the drive letter in general.
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20:32:35 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: http://www.gizmokid2005.com/menu_error.png I get that popup when my drive is unsafely removed while things (including the menu) are still running...the only way to get rid of it, is to kill the menu in task manager...using 1.5.3preview....rogue code?
20:34:00 <JohnTHaller> 1.6 PR should fix that.
20:34:09 <JohnTHaller> DO NOT UNSAFELY EJECT!
20:34:42 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: believe me, I don't do it on purpose, I'm not that worried about it...but I think my jack on my wd passport is getting loose...so I think that's the culprit.
20:34:45 <JohnTHaller> But yeah, 1.6 detects an accidental removal and closes and swap the wallpaper back without trying to write its config.
20:35:35 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> cool, I'll wait until you make it official, but good to know it's fixed, just thought I'd let you know. I have to get ahold of WD and see what they think about my drive and if they'll fix it or not...or i"ll have to find a new 2.5" enclsoure.
20:37:19 <JohnTHaller> you can grab it now. it's stable. just missing translations. one bug in sort order on refresh.
20:39:49 <JohnTHaller> posting next PR of it tomorrow
20:42:24 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I'll grab your PR tomorrow then. I have to update both KVIrc and RSSOwl to the new installers and specs tonight so...
20:42:40 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> I have to modify RSSOwl's launcher too to check for the JVM
20:57:51 <pa_6344> hi, I installed the auto runner, and it says (last drive: (none) ; Platform found: (N/A)
20:59:04 <JohnTHaller> while it is running, unplug and plug the drive in. this is just the test version you have (with the on-screen interface). there is another one available from that same page that has no interface and just runs in the background.
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21:05:43 <JohnTHaller> I have to run. If you need any assistance with the autorun program, post it in the forums in that topic: http://portableapps.com/node/13770
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21:16:21 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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21:33:16 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
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21:45:29 <gluxon> Awww...
21:45:41 * gluxon hopes John come back.
21:45:53 <SergentSiler> :P
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22:05:10 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
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22:27:03 <pabot> upnPAD wants official releases of Code::Blocks, Inkscape, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
22:27:08 <SergentSiler> ello upnPAD
22:28:38 <upnPAD> allo
22:28:42 <upnPAD> bbs, breakfast
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22:50:35 <SergentSiler> ello AppGuy
22:50:49 <AppGuy> Hi SergentSiler
22:51:13 <AppGuy> How is it going?
22:51:18 <SergentSiler> gewd
22:51:27 * SergentSiler notices our oplessness
22:51:39 * AppGuy cries
22:51:43 <SergentSiler> lol
22:52:41 <AppGuy> I like the new portableapps installer package
22:53:06 * SergentSiler forgot to check
22:53:20 <AppGuy> It was just released
22:53:25 <SergentSiler> ya
22:53:29 <SergentSiler> i know, i was here :P
22:53:47 <AppGuy> ;)
22:54:03 <AppGuy> :|
22:54:19 * AppGuy is having a face spaze
22:54:32 <SergentSiler> lol
22:54:48 <SergentSiler> AppGuy, u got the link?
22:55:02 <AppGuy> link?
22:55:09 <SergentSiler> to the installer thingy
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22:55:22 <pabot> Whibo is a portableapps.com user
22:55:32 <SergentSiler> brb
22:55:32 <AppGuy> go to the home page and it is the newest release
22:55:37 <SergentSiler> kk
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22:56:06 <Bensawsome> <_<
22:56:22 <AppGuy> Nooo gluxon!!! :(
22:59:13 <AppGuy> I am currently creating a prerelease for pokerth 0.7
22:59:40 <AppGuy> For anyone who would like to help, I will try to release it tomorrow
23:01:08 <AppGuy> I am sorry but I have to go now, may be back later :(
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23:01:47 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
23:04:43 <gluxon> Wow...
23:04:47 <gluxon> That was saddening...
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23:05:12 <Bensawsome> lol
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23:05:18 <pabot> Whibo is a portableapps.com user
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23:05:44 * SergentSiler eats moar pizza
23:06:31 * gluxon goes off to get a pic of the giant doggy he won at Lake Compouce.
23:20:26 * gluxon is back :P
23:20:37 <SergentSiler> lol
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23:25:09 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
23:25:15 <SergentSiler> wb JTH
23:25:15 <JohnTHaller> hola
23:25:35 <Bensawsome> hey john ^_^
23:25:44 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: the installer is giving me a error
23:25:52 <MaienM> http://portableapps.pastebin.com/m32ed3420
23:25:53 * Mir wishes he had pizza instead of this porterhouse :(
23:26:43 <SergentSiler> lol
23:26:50 * SergentSiler gives Mir some of his pizza
23:28:35 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: post your appinfo.ini and installer.ini in pastebin, too
23:29:11 <MaienM> http://portableapps.pastebin.com/m637c4d43
23:29:15 <MaienM> thats both of em
23:30:23 <JohnTHaller> hmm... zip it up and send it to me
23:30:57 <JohnTHaller> also, you'd use TMWPortable as your AppID since you're gonna be releasing this as an official release
23:31:12 <MaienM> yeah, I wanted to ask that, but you already had left
23:31:53 <MaienM> zip all of it up? so the TMWPortable dir
23:31:59 <MaienM> + the optional dir
23:32:40 <JohnTHaller> You don't create the optional dir on your own now. I fixed the spec to detail it: http://portableapps.com/node/19287/edit#installer
23:32:52 <MaienM> also, it just deleted my TMWPortableOptional1 dir...
23:33:10 <JohnTHaller> oops./. http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format#installer
23:33:24 <JohnTHaller> yeah, it auto-deletes it because it's supposed to auto-create it now.
23:33:27 <MaienM> ah, I see
23:33:43 <MaienM> it didn't delete it when I was still using the -57242 part tho
23:33:48 <MaienM> so maybe thats a bug too? dunno
23:34:01 <JohnTHaller> Now you just point and compile instead of having to move stuff
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23:34:23 <JohnTHaller> well if you had it as tmwportable-57242 and tmwportable-57242optional1 didn't exist, that's why it would fail.
23:34:31 <MaienM> it did
23:34:49 <MaienM> but it didn't delete it afterwards, like it would without the -57242 part
23:35:01 <MaienM> *I did (as in, I had the folder)
23:35:05 <JohnTHaller> course not... it didn't know what tmwportableoptional1 was
23:35:18 <JohnTHaller> tmwportable-57242 is a different app as far as the installer is concerned
23:36:03 <JohnTHaller> Either way... combine it all into the TMWPortable directory. Set AppID to TMWPortable. Them set the OptionalDirectory1 and/or OptionalFile1, etc entries as appropriate and try it again.
23:38:22 <MaienM> still getting the same error
23:38:31 <JohnTHaller> zip and send it to me
23:39:32 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: http://irc.mmfail.irc.su/download/TMWPortable.zip
23:39:52 <JohnTHaller> Oh wait... don't use $APPNAME in the section description... not sure if that is effecting it
23:41:08 <MaienM> nope, doesn't matter
23:41:26 <MaienM> also, I doubt it makes a difference, but the folder isn't in the PortableApps folder
23:41:48 <MaienM> I made a PortableAppsDev folder for it
23:42:02 <JohnTHaller> still DLing
23:42:12 <JohnTHaller> I don't do my from a PortableApps folder either
23:45:14 <JohnTHaller> worked for me. unzipped to desktop and fed it to the installer
23:45:26 <JohnTHaller> what OS you on? where is the installer and TMWPortable pathwise?
23:47:20 <MaienM> I'm on a stripped down version of XP
23:47:34 <JohnTHaller> Installer path? TMWPortable path?
23:47:46 <MaienM> C:/PortableApps/PortableAppsInstaller and C:/PortableAppsDev/TMWPortable
23:48:32 <JohnTHaller> I have a thought... set it to leave the source code. And then check to see if PortableApps.comInstallerHeader.bmp and PortableApps.comInstallerHeaderRTL.bmp are created in Other\Source
23:50:27 <MaienM> yep, they are
23:50:58 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: BTW, is the new EXE installer suppose to be the actual app icon or the flash drive over the PortableApps.com logo?
23:51:02 <JohnTHaller> Does NSIS normally work on there?
23:51:14 <MaienM> yes, I do all my compiling in this VM
23:51:17 <JohnTHaller> All installers will use a standard installer logo for the icon now
23:51:23 <JohnTHaller> Ah, in a VM, too... hmmm...
23:51:33 <MaienM> btw, could the fact that the old installer files are still there be a problem?
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23:51:44 <MaienM> well I always did all pa.c work in this VM
23:51:59 <JohnTHaller> Delete em all just to be safe. But it shouldn't be. You doing any custom code in it? If so you may need to update it.
23:52:19 <gluxon> Seriously? :(
23:52:27 <pa_0459> i am wondering ... could the suite bundle be uploaded to a cell phone to "run " all like it should...
23:52:55 <gluxon> pa_0459: no. sorry.
23:52:57 <MaienM> nope, no custom code
23:53:27 <JohnTHaller> pa_0459: no cell phones run a Windows OS. Windows Mobile isn't Windows, so it can't run Windows apps.
23:53:46 <pa_0459> ok too bad i really enjoy the firefox browser and the current one "polaris5.01" embedded in to the cell is doggichly slow...
23:54:21 <JohnTHaller> Fennec (Firefox Mobile) is out for some phones... but that's not related to what we do: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0a1/releasenotes/
23:54:41 <pa_0459> thanks ..I will give it a read...
23:54:59 <JohnTHaller> gluxon: Yeah, standard Windows installers use standard icons, too. Otherwise when Firefox Portable is installing, you see a firefox icon in your taskbar (and only an icon in Win7) but it's not actually Firefox... so it's a little confusing.
23:55:12 <gluxon> Oh.
23:55:13 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: Can you post your log file after fixing that $APPNAME thing?
23:55:27 <gluxon> When you put it that way..
23:55:37 <MaienM> http://portableapps.pastebin.com/d2190e707
23:55:46 <JohnTHaller> I didn't think of it myself until I started using a Win7 theme
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23:56:53 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: How stripped down is this XP build of yours?
23:56:58 <MaienM> also, it leaves some files behind in the Other/Source dir, is it supposed to leave them?
23:57:12 <MaienM> stipped down enought to have caused problems before
23:57:15 <MaienM> with i
23:57:16 <JohnTHaller> No, it should delete them.
23:57:20 <MaienM> *iTunes for example
23:58:02 <JohnTHaller> Alright... try this. Have it set to include the source code. But ditch the optional section. Build it in the installer. It should fail but produce all the code... then try compiling it with NSIS you have installed in the VM
23:58:25 <JohnTHaller> (compile PortableApps.comInstaller.nsi just like the old versions at that point)
23:59:18 <MaienM> same error
23:59:49 <JohnTHaller> Ok, so it isn't the custom NSIS build I have included
23:59:59 <MaienM> I removed the language section now