IRC Log from 2009-05-21
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01:10:53 <wolfe.freenode.net> Users on #portableapps: palogbot ve4jhj SergentSiler excid3 n0b0dy2 Espreon n0b0dy upnPAD Jamman Zarggg gluxon +pabot WastePotato Suiseiseki purple ZerFEr Twinkletoes|W tarbo Bensawsome StatBot Mir dbdii407 @Gizmokid2005
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01:12:46 <Jamman> got an old laptop
01:12:56 <Jamman> cant take much
01:13:11 <Jamman> but its dowing
01:13:19 <n0b0dy> ok
01:13:36 <Jamman> so what do you guys do
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01:13:49 <Jamman> besides
01:13:58 <gluxon> Jamman: Make Portable Apps :p
01:14:00 <gluxon> What else?
01:14:04 <gluxon> :D
01:14:06 <Jamman> helping dum asses like my self
01:14:22 <gluxon> :P
01:14:32 <n0b0dy> are you trying to run portableapps through wine?
01:14:44 <Jamman> so you make the programs
01:14:47 <Jamman> ooooooooooo
01:14:49 <gluxon> Jamman: You know you can install ubuntu on your flash drive?
01:14:50 <gluxon> :D
01:14:54 <Jamman> I am in heven
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01:15:10 <gluxon> And have a Portable Operating System?
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01:15:20 <gluxon> You own desktop... applications, and everything :D
01:15:21 <Jamman> are you up for that 1
01:15:26 <gluxon> Yeah.
01:15:37 <gluxon> I'm running ubuntu from my flash drive right now :D
01:16:04 <gluxon> Only problem is that some computers don't support usb booting, but all the ones I encounter (like 100) do.
01:16:05 <Jamman> but it wont run on my win desk top
01:16:26 <gluxon> Jamman: Who needs M!cr@so*ft?
01:16:28 <gluxon> :D
01:16:31 <n0b0dy> there's wubi
01:16:39 <gluxon> Yeah, there's wubi... :D
01:16:43 <SergentSiler> :D
01:17:03 <n0b0dy> or CD-Rom boot (slow as hell though)
01:17:05 <gluxon> Jamman: Now, can I show you compiz?
01:17:06 <gluxon> :D
01:17:11 <Jamman> I hate bill and his jackoffs
01:17:18 <gluxon> YAY!
01:17:25 <gluxon> Another M!cr@so*ft hater!
01:17:32 * SergentSiler <3 windows
01:17:35 <Jamman> running fucked up updates
01:17:44 <gluxon> I swear, you'll love compiz.
01:17:50 <Gizmokid2005> Jamman: please watch your language.
01:17:53 <SergentSiler> lets try to keep the talk g-rated please
01:17:55 <Jamman> that cause more problems than they fix'
01:18:04 <gluxon> K, type in "sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager" without quotes.
01:18:05 <gluxon> :D
01:18:05 <excid3> Compiz is awesome.
01:18:12 <gluxon> excid3: I KNOW!!!
01:18:13 <gluxon> :D
01:18:27 <gluxon> I have the desktop cube... and the painting fire... It's awesome!!! :D
01:18:36 <SergentSiler> runs like crap on my laptop
01:18:39 <Jamman> what is it
01:18:45 <gluxon> It's desktop animations.
01:18:50 <excid3> I actually don't use it any longer because I spent too much time configuring it and playing with things.
01:18:51 <SergentSiler> i have to restart the graphical manager every time i open 3 windows
01:18:51 <Jamman> compiz
01:18:53 <gluxon> Like you know the minimizing affect in mac?
01:19:00 <excid3> I was wasting way too much time :P
01:19:40 <gluxon> Jamman: Okay... instead of winpenguins.
01:19:43 <gluxon> whoops
01:19:53 <gluxon> I meant to say... "instead of compiz, wanna do xpenguins?"
01:20:02 <Jamman> ok
01:20:08 <gluxon> Installing is easier than wine.
01:20:10 <Jamman> the smiles
01:20:10 <gluxon> ok...
01:20:12 <gluxon> go to...
01:20:31 <gluxon> http://xpenguins.seul.org/xpenguins-2.2-1.i386.rpm
01:20:42 <gluxon> Just click on that and a download thing should happen.
01:20:46 <gluxon> Save to the desktop.
01:20:47 <Jamman> how about the ubuntu on my flash
01:21:11 <gluxon> Jamman: That's complicated, and I have to go in about 5 minutes so all I have time to do is xpenguins.
01:21:32 <n0b0dy> ummm gluxon that's rpm based
01:21:32 <excid3> What distro are you using Jamman?
01:21:36 <n0b0dy> it won't work under ubuntu
01:21:41 <gluxon> Yes it will.
01:21:41 <gluxon> :D
01:21:46 <gluxon> Just watch.
01:21:50 <excid3> Isn't xpenguins in the repositories?
01:21:51 <SergentSiler> it will under mandriva :DD
01:21:56 <gluxon> But if you really want to, after I go try, system --> Administration --> Create UUSB startup disk.
01:21:57 <gluxon> K.
01:22:04 <gluxon> Do you have that file downloaded?
01:22:08 <excid3> If you use alien it will install..
01:22:13 <gluxon> If yes, type in "sudo apt-get install alien"
01:22:18 <gluxon> excid3: :D
01:22:19 <n0b0dy> rpm files is for red hat based distro
01:22:24 <n0b0dy> like fedora
01:22:28 <SergentSiler> and mandriva
01:22:29 <SergentSiler> ^_^
01:22:31 <n0b0dy> yep
01:22:31 <gluxon> n0b0dy: grr, ALIEN!
01:22:39 <gluxon> Quick.
01:22:43 <gluxon> I have to go very soon.
01:23:07 <gluxon> Type in "cd /home/USERNAMEHERE/Desktop"
01:23:07 <n0b0dy> what to the moon?
01:23:08 <gluxon> Then
01:23:22 <gluxon> sudo "sudo alien xpenguins-2.2-1.rpm"
01:23:50 <gluxon> And for the usb install, you have to download the redownload the .iso.
01:23:56 <gluxon> Browse to it, and select it.
01:24:06 <gluxon> Then choose how much space you want to use as storage.
01:24:16 <gluxon> Now... I'll mark down your email :D
01:24:17 <gluxon> So bye.
01:24:39 <gluxon> And email you my email... incase you need help.
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01:25:13 <Jamman> k
01:25:23 <Jamman> it wanted the disk
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01:27:33 <n0b0dy> what are you trying to do jamman?
01:28:43 <Jamman> got to run bud
01:28:48 <n0b0dy> k
01:28:53 <Jamman> my boss is tripping
01:28:54 <excid3> Wow, who saw that link to that Cody thing for flash drives that was on lifehacker?
01:29:06 <Jamman> but I will hit u up later
01:29:13 <n0b0dy> ok later
01:29:21 <n0b0dy> what are you talking about excid3?
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01:29:30 <n0b0dy> portable ubuntu?
01:29:36 <n0b0dy> is that what you're talking about?
01:29:53 <n0b0dy> or something else?
01:30:38 <excid3> n0b0dy: no it was some PortableApps Menu knock off
01:30:56 <excid3> http://lifehacker.com/5263429/codysafe-manages-your-thumb-drives-apps-and-data
01:31:05 <powerjuce> oh yea i think i saw it
01:31:09 <excid3> How ugly is that?
01:31:17 <powerjuce> but its more of a knock off off a fork
01:32:00 <n0b0dy> i wouldn't touch it
01:32:17 <excid3> Absolutely awful.
01:32:18 <SergentSiler> lol
01:32:23 <SergentSiler> im trying to remove it XD
01:32:25 <excid3> I wish people knew how to contribute usefully.
01:32:52 <SergentSiler> i installed it to my secondary hdd as a test, hated it, tried to remove it, and the drive label and icon wont change back
01:32:58 <excid3> If they want to make something, then help out PA, we've already got a huge userbase and quality work already done, so improve it, not try to take the fame.
01:33:00 <SergentSiler> and there is no .inf or .ini
01:33:08 <excid3> SergentSiler: pwnt.
01:33:16 <SergentSiler> STFU :P
01:33:33 <excid3> Hey, you're the one that tried it :P
01:33:37 <SergentSiler> lol
01:33:40 <SergentSiler> true :/
01:33:46 <SergentSiler> imma complain ^_^
01:33:50 <SergentSiler> to them anyway
01:33:51 <excid3> sue them :P
01:33:54 <SergentSiler> :D
01:33:55 <n0b0dy> i believe it has bad attention
01:34:00 <excid3> Yeah I would complain too.
01:34:41 <n0b0dy> the only seal of approval it has is it's own and another website called softester
01:34:47 <n0b0dy> which i've never heard of
01:35:02 <excid3> That's why they got a seal of approval.
01:35:03 <excid3> :P
01:35:34 <n0b0dy> and the website softest looks like something that came out of my butt
01:35:41 <n0b0dy> it looks that bad
01:35:47 <n0b0dy> web design looks like crap
01:36:16 <excid3> Application looks like crap, approvde by a site that looks like crap. I think we can safely say, its a piece of crap.
01:36:54 <n0b0dy> i say crap and a half is more like it
01:37:17 <Gizmokid2005> I love my download speed :) Nothing like downloading Ubuntu 9.04 @ 1.7MB/s :D
01:37:33 <n0b0dy> i have the actually disc
01:37:44 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, I have one on order
01:37:49 <n0b0dy> kbuntu, server and ubuntu
01:37:55 <excid3> Yeah I ordered the disc.
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01:38:02 <Gizmokid2005> I can download them all faster than they can send me a disk
01:38:10 <n0b0dy> that's what i do
01:38:18 <SergentSiler> i complained to codyseey
01:38:21 <n0b0dy> download the iso, then order the phsical disc
01:38:33 <n0b0dy> physical
01:39:04 <n0b0dy> who's codyseey?
01:39:28 <excid3> n0b0dy: company/person that made that application
01:40:00 <SergentSiler> OMFG ROFL
01:40:02 <n0b0dy> ok
01:40:10 <SergentSiler> if you go to the site and look at the animation
01:40:21 <SergentSiler> they spelled accept as "assept"
01:40:32 <excid3> LOL
01:40:38 <n0b0dy> they have some strange spelling on other things
01:40:48 <n0b0dy> i think the owner is russian
01:40:49 <n0b0dy> i believe
01:40:55 <n0b0dy> don't quote me on it
01:40:58 <SergentSiler> lol
01:41:11 <excid3> So its malware. :P
01:41:16 <n0b0dy> probably
01:41:21 <n0b0dy> what's the website again
01:41:21 <SergentSiler> XD
01:41:29 <n0b0dy> i'm going to do a reverse lookup
01:41:33 <SergentSiler> http://www.codyssey.com/products/codysafe.html
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01:43:20 <n0b0dy> http://whois.domaintools.com/codyssey.com
01:44:22 <n0b0dy> server is hosted in the united states
01:44:42 <SrgSiler|Sleep> the guy owns another domain too
01:44:54 <n0b0dy> but it looks like the register owner is from Israel
01:45:32 <SrgSiler|Sleep> ya
01:45:51 <n0b0dy> don't trust it one bit
01:46:03 * SrgSiler|Sleep goes to sleep
01:46:11 * SrgSiler|Sleep actually runs virus scans
01:46:55 * Mir scans SrgSiler|Sleep for viruses
01:47:21 <Mir> tell you in the morning if i found anything
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01:52:50 <n0b0dy> for those who are interested in ubuntu portable within windows shell take a look at this likehacker article
01:52:53 <n0b0dy> http://lifehacker.com/5195999/portable-ubuntu-runs-ubuntu-inside-windows
01:53:13 <Mir> np thanks
01:53:18 <n0b0dy> yep
01:53:19 <Mir> it failed
01:54:00 <n0b0dy> what did?
01:54:20 <Mir> portable ubuntu
01:54:23 <Mir> duhh
01:54:34 <n0b0dy> in what way?
01:55:33 <n0b0dy> i'll give it a spin
01:56:55 <Mir> it didn t wor
01:56:58 <Mir> AT ALL
01:57:25 <n0b0dy> i'm trying it out
01:57:40 <n0b0dy> what os are you running?
01:57:54 <Mir> fista
01:58:03 <n0b0dy> 32 or 64-bit?
01:58:05 <Mir> heh
01:58:24 <Mir> fista with poobuntu... what a concept
01:58:30 <Mir> 32
01:58:39 <n0b0dy> i have windows xp
01:58:44 <n0b0dy> lets see if it works
01:58:58 <Mir> well i guess you win then
01:59:09 <Mir> XP pro or XP home
01:59:27 <n0b0dy> xp pro
02:01:19 <n0b0dy> link for you Mir: http://portableubuntu.sourceforge.net/files/How%20to%20install%20and%20run%20Portable-Ubuntu.pdf
02:01:57 <n0b0dy> shows how to run portable ubuntu in vista
02:02:54 <Bensawsome> i tried one app on that thing.... my computer crashed... same happened on all my other windows comps -_-
02:03:02 <Bensawsome> (linux app that is ;)
02:04:48 <n0b0dy> running it now
02:06:11 <Mir> n0b0dy: do you think i havent read that PDF?
02:06:19 <Mir> i did everything correctly
02:06:24 <Mir> IT STILL FAILED
02:06:25 <n0b0dy> ok
02:06:31 <n0b0dy> wasn't sure if you read it, sorry bud
02:07:39 <n0b0dy> got it to work on my end
02:07:45 <n0b0dy> although it's a little slow
02:11:51 <n0b0dy> oh well
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02:18:44 <n0b0dy> man it's really slow
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02:29:19 <Jake> Excuse
02:29:20 <Jake> me
02:29:22 <daBomb69> Hi Jake
02:29:42 <Jake> how do i uninstall the Portable Apps Suite
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02:29:54 <Jake> it changed the name of my flash drive
02:30:05 <Jake> to portableapps.com
02:30:11 <Jake> and i cant change it back
02:30:17 <daBomb69> You can
02:30:24 <daBomb69> You just need to edit the autorun file
02:30:26 <Jake> i want to have the indival apps themselves
02:30:37 <Jake> ok
02:30:44 <Jake> i have the file open
02:31:20 <Jake> ...
02:31:37 <daBomb69> one sec, i'm also opening it, so i can see what u shld type
02:32:20 <Jake> ...
02:32:24 <daBomb69> Ok, you see where it says label=PortableApps.com
02:32:25 <daBomb69> ?
02:32:31 <daBomb69> in the autorun file
02:32:34 <Jake> yes
02:32:53 <daBomb69> Change the PortableApps.com part to whatever you want your drive to be called
02:33:02 <Jake> ok 1 min
02:33:09 <daBomb69> But only in the label=[name] part of the autorun
02:33:17 <Jake> ok
02:34:03 <daBomb69> And then, once you've changed it to what you want, save the file, and safely remove your drive, then reinsert it
02:34:04 <Jake> ...
02:34:32 <Jake> 1 min
02:34:37 <daBomb69> k
02:34:46 <Jake> :)
02:34:56 <Jake> ok
02:34:58 <Jake> well
02:35:07 <daBomb69> Anything else?
02:35:07 <Jake> it is now called what i want it to
02:35:11 <daBomb69> yay :D
02:35:18 <Jake> but it still has the portable apps logo
02:35:44 <daBomb69> So, you wanna change the icon, you'll need an icon file of your own
02:36:01 <Jake> ok just the default flash drive logo
02:36:24 <Jake> how come portable apps messes your drive around so much
02:37:07 <Jake> ...
02:37:16 <daBomb69> Well, it's cause of how we get the autorun
02:37:31 <Jake> now how do i change the icon
02:37:36 <Jake> then i must go
02:37:46 <daBomb69> To be the default icon
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02:38:18 <Jake> ...
02:38:35 <daBomb69> Do you care wether or not you can hit Start PortableApps in the AutoRun menu?
02:38:52 <Jake> yes
02:39:00 <Jake> i want it completely off my drive
02:39:04 <Jake> then i must GO
02:39:23 <Jake> ...
02:39:25 <daBomb69> in that case, just deleate PortableApps.com folder in X:/PortableApps
02:39:30 <daBomb69> and deleat the autorun
02:39:38 <daBomb69> OR, u could just deleat the autorun file
02:40:47 <Jake> yes!!!!!:) THANX THNX THNX
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02:47:03 <daBomb69> Hey Gizmokid2005, could I get some help with a problem I've been having with the PA.c installer?
02:47:19 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: ask away, I'll see what I can do
02:51:11 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: ?
02:51:12 <daBomb69> Ok, whenever I try to compile the launcher, it says: Error: resolving install function "Nsis2Io" in function "mui.FinishPre_125.5.9"
02:51:12 <daBomb69> Note: uninstall functions must begin with "un.", and install functions must not
02:51:12 <daBomb69> Error - aborting creation process
02:51:38 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: not sure...but it should give you some more before that to pinpoint it more.
02:51:45 <Gizmokid2005> i can't help you much more with that one
02:51:54 <daBomb69> Oh, ok
02:52:07 <Gizmokid2005> I'm off to bed
02:52:07 <Bensawsome> do you have all required ummm plugins?
02:52:09 <Gizmokid2005> night guys
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02:52:18 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005|AFK look in #PAGamesClan first!
02:52:20 <Bensawsome> >_>
02:52:21 <daBomb69> Night Gizmokid2005|AFK
02:52:28 <daBomb69> Bensawsome, I think so...
02:52:50 <Bensawsome> anywho
02:52:56 <Bensawsome> BED TIEM NAO
02:53:01 <daBomb69> Night Bensawsome
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05:11:17 <Raven102> can I add my own files to the main menu of PA where all the apps are in a list
05:13:44 <Raven102> anyone here?
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08:14:13 <kjellkamsvag> Hello everyone :)
08:14:58 <kjellkamsvag> help!
08:17:44 <rmccue> kjellkamsvag: Hey, how can we help?
08:21:56 <kjellkamsvag> First I want to thank you for a great produkct :)
08:22:26 <rmccue> I'm just one of many developers. :)
08:23:57 <kjellkamsvag> I've used Truecrypt to protect my data when I use my USB stick for data only. Is it possible to protect my portableapps using a password or something?
08:25:13 <rmccue> Not currently.
08:25:37 <kjellkamsvag> ? What if my USB stick falls into the wrong hands?
08:26:03 <rmccue> I believe there are plans to add such functionality to the menu, but it is just security by obscurity, and you can still work around it.
08:26:19 <rmccue> The best way is to simply use TrueCrypt as you are currently.
08:26:37 <kjellkamsvag> Sure YOU can but most people can't ;)
08:27:29 <kjellkamsvag> Can I use Truecrypt on the whole USB-stick and run portableapps on it?
08:27:37 <rmccue> I believe so.
08:27:48 <kjellkamsvag> Hmmm...
08:28:10 <kjellkamsvag> DO I have to encrpyt the drive before I intsall portable apps?
08:29:08 <rmccue> You can move it on afterwards, I believe.
08:29:35 <kjellkamsvag> ok
08:29:48 <kjellkamsvag> thanx for your help :)
08:30:03 <rmccue> No worries :)
08:30:03 <kjellkamsvag> Wish you the best!
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10:14:39 <moly> Hi
10:15:00 <moly> is there anybody here who is good at making portable app?
10:15:39 <moly> ?
10:16:46 <moly> :(
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10:29:46 <ChrisMorgan> .ask Gizmokid2005 Why did you change the topic? You've removed the don't discuss illegal software bit which was put there intentionally.
10:29:48 <pabot> OperationalError: (2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'localhost' (10061)") (source unknown)
10:30:01 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue..!?
10:30:31 <rmccue> Gimme a minute.
10:30:49 <ChrisMorgan> You have it *click*
10:30:56 <ChrisMorgan> 59, 58, 57, 56, 55, 54, 53, 52, 51, 50, ...
10:31:11 <rmccue> Done.
10:31:22 <ChrisMorgan> .ask Gizmokid2005 Why did you change the topic? You've removed the don't discuss illegal software bit which was put there intentionally.
10:31:22 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: I'll pass that on when I next see Gizmokid2005.
10:31:24 <rmccue> Additionally, it still says it.
10:31:34 <rmccue> "Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software"
10:32:18 <ChrisMorgan> OK, he removed the direct references anyhow and made it less likely it'll be noticed... what did he actually change in it/why?
10:33:56 <ChrisMorgan> Ain't it sad... I was going to release Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test 2, then I suddenly realised that I had forgotten to document one of the new things (registry key writing)...
10:34:31 <ChrisMorgan> So now I'm writing that section of the documentation, then out comes Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test 2. Then I start working on Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test 3!
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10:38:18 <pabot> Horusofoz is a long-term PortableApps.com user who can offer some low-level app support. But be nice and don't make him make you turn the other cheek!
10:38:23 <ChrisMorgan> Oh grr, I see Jon released BPBible 0.4.4 yesterday... and he hasn't given me the latest SWORD bindings, so I can't build BPBible Portable 0.4.4 Pre-Release 1 yet :-(
10:38:33 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Horusofoz :-)
10:38:45 <Horusofoz> Hey Chris :)
10:38:51 <Horusofoz> Ryan:)
10:38:54 <Horusofoz> Ben:0
10:39:13 <ChrisMorgan> :o
10:39:15 <Horusofoz> Any of you guys have any experience with aptana?
10:39:25 <ChrisMorgan> I'd like to, but I haven't yet.
10:39:30 <ChrisMorgan> Try #aptana
10:40:06 <Horusofoz> k
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10:59:39 <pabot> Horusofoz is a long-term PortableApps.com user who can offer some low-level app support. But be nice and don't make him make you turn the other cheek!
10:59:44 <Horusofoz> I'm back
11:12:52 <ChrisMorgan> OK, documentation done. Now to update PAF specs etc.
11:13:05 <Horusofoz> is this for bpbible?
11:13:24 <ChrisMorgan> No, Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test 2
11:13:36 <ChrisMorgan> BPBible I need to wait for Jon to get home so I can get the bindings.
11:14:13 <ChrisMorgan> /Then/ I just run "python make_release.py --portable --pre-release=1 0.4.4" and come back in 20 minutes or so and it'll all be done, ready to upload :D
11:14:33 <Horusofoz> Can I ask.. Why don't you just collaborate with John on the official launcher or is your launcher a vehicle for doing that?
11:14:56 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. I'm still waiting for last weekend for John to send me what he's done so far :P
11:15:19 <ChrisMorgan> I'm on the official PortableApps.com Launcher development team.
11:15:26 <ChrisMorgan> Which consists of John T. Haller and Chris J. Morgan :-)
11:15:43 <Horusofoz> Congrats :)
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11:15:59 <ChrisMorgan> btw Horusofoz I'd intended to do Aptana ages ago but didn't as it was such a large download.
11:16:05 <ChrisMorgan> I've still not downloaded it.
11:16:17 <ChrisMorgan> When I get a notebook though I believe I will.
11:17:01 <Horusofoz> any plans on doing it now that if can be compressed with UPX and an installer created quicker with the newest advances in PAF tech.?
11:18:15 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think I'll be able to do it until I get a notebook... which probably won't be till mid June at least... if I get round to it :P
11:18:41 <ChrisMorgan> It's my launcher which makes making portable apps much easier and faster. That's the slow bit - not the installer.
11:18:54 <ChrisMorgan> But it's also the hard bit, hence the installer being the first one done.
11:19:07 <Horusofoz> well just looking at reviews now it seems notepad++ has itsadvantages of aptana
11:20:09 <ChrisMorgan> Really? What? (Lack of) size?
11:20:19 <Horusofoz> speed
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11:20:26 <Horusofoz> already portable
11:20:34 <Horusofoz> doesn't require regular updates
11:20:40 <ChrisMorgan> Hello, pa_9378! How can we help you today?
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11:21:16 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: for ordinary users that's not a hitch.
11:21:35 <Horusofoz> I haven't used it yet so don't for sure though one thing Aptana has over notepad++ is the autocomplete and code suggestions
11:21:48 <Horusofoz> Also there are news items at start up
11:21:56 <Horusofoz> php saving prob?
11:22:00 <ChrisMorgan> Aptana is more than just a text editor. Notepad++ is just a text editor.
11:22:06 <Horusofoz> like I sai haven't used
11:22:10 <ChrisMorgan> "php saving prob?"?
11:22:25 <Horusofoz> I read http://performancing.com/notepad-my-new-favorite-code-editor
11:23:56 <ChrisMorgan> Interesting... I'd warrant there's a simple config option or similar for it though.
11:24:20 <Horusofoz> well if you port it I'll use it :)
11:24:22 <ChrisMorgan> Or more likely he's using the wrong type of file from the wizards or whatever
11:24:34 <ChrisMorgan> You'll probably have to wait...
11:25:11 <ChrisMorgan> My mid-year examinations (June) are just Physics (9th) and the GAT/General Achievement Test (11th). Then back to school on the 12th...
11:25:23 <ChrisMorgan> We get a couple of weeks of holidays in there somewhere though, late June I think
11:25:58 <Horusofoz> Well cosidering I can't do it myself I can't complain ayeD
11:26:12 <ChrisMorgan> For me though at the moment I do everything with my own gVim Portable :D
11:26:48 <ChrisMorgan> Really, I could probably whip up a launcher for you with my launcher test if you provided me with decent Regshot results.
11:26:59 <ChrisMorgan> btw, what file mask do you use with your regshots? C:\?
11:27:16 <Bensawsome> what is up with that guy continuously coming in from 125.60.248.153 ....
11:27:42 <Horusofoz> c:\
11:28:01 <Horusofoz> I can't downlaod right now as only have about a gig for five days now
11:28:15 <ChrisMorgan> k, that's fine.
11:28:16 <Horusofoz> I'll try to at work
11:28:28 <ChrisMorgan> Use the non-Eclipse version.
11:28:32 <Horusofoz> How about a project manager?
11:28:34 <Horusofoz> K
11:28:39 <ChrisMorgan> ?
11:28:44 <Horusofoz> I thought would probably be less bloat that way
11:28:57 <ChrisMorgan> project manager?
11:29:24 <Horusofoz> Seriously I would pay for a portable version of a good project management software
11:29:39 <ChrisMorgan> Incidentally, we used to have 2/4GB of morning/afternoon downloads per month, now we've got 7/14 as of about a month ago. That was why I hadn't downloaded it at all.
11:29:43 <ChrisMorgan> Suggestions?
11:30:03 <ChrisMorgan> Gimme the software, I can make it portable... I should go into business ;-)
11:30:48 <Horusofoz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_project_management_software
11:30:59 <Horusofoz> Anoyone of the OSS ones of these would make me happy
11:31:10 <Horusofoz> I'll payPal you $50 AUD?
11:31:18 <ChrisMorgan> The WP lists are useful :-)
11:31:38 <ChrisMorgan> No PayPal...
11:31:45 <Horusofoz> :(
11:31:48 <ChrisMorgan> You choose one and I can do it for ya.
11:31:57 <Horusofoz> You in Oz. Money Order?
11:32:16 <ChrisMorgan> I dunno... direct bank transfer?
11:32:30 <ChrisMorgan> Anyhow, that's not the important bit. We need project management software for PortableApps.com.
11:32:53 <Horusofoz> cananyone suggest a good one?
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11:33:09 <Horusofoz> I don't want to put Chris onto a second rate project
11:33:29 <ChrisMorgan> Open Workench is the only one I've really heard about, but I don't know much about it at all.
11:33:48 <ChrisMorgan> (I typed in PA.c, and forgot I had my nifty AHK hotstrings script running, so it got turning into PortableApps.com! :-))
11:34:07 <Horusofoz> :)
11:34:17 <ChrisMorgan> (Similarly, cpalt -> Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test... which is a lot to type regularly!)
11:34:25 <ChrisMorgan> The only problem is that it doesn't work in gVim...
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11:35:11 <ChrisMorgan> OK, let's see if I can squeeze out Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test 2 before going to bed.
11:35:20 <Horusofoz> One thing is a lot of the OSS project managers have been bought buy commercial companies who have frozen development (Like Open Workbench) or have gone commercial themselves and again have frozen development on their open source offering
11:35:30 <ChrisMorgan> Hello HHx! Can we help you?
11:35:55 <ChrisMorgan> "have been bought buy [sic] commercial"...
11:36:22 <Horusofoz> ?
11:36:31 <Horusofoz> oh yeah I see
11:36:32 <ChrisMorgan> should be by, not buy :P
11:37:10 <HHx> Hi, I just cam across the portable apps web page. For us it would be of great help, if we could run the Palo (Palo.net) DB on a stick. It is open source. Has anybody done that allready?
11:37:11 <Horusofoz> I guess Planner being part of the GNOME Desktop is most likely to stay open source and keep being developed long term so that would be the go
11:37:33 <ChrisMorgan> HHx: I'll just have a look at it... what is it?
11:38:19 <ChrisMorgan> ah, I see.
11:38:22 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm...
11:38:44 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: http://winplanner.sourceforge.net/
11:39:13 <HHx> Sorry, the web address changed to http://sourceforge.net/projects/palo. It is OLAP DB to be used to extend the power of Open Office or Excel
11:39:58 <Horusofoz> Looks like Planner is off the air - http://fmoraes.blogspot.com/ :(
11:40:14 <ChrisMorgan> HHx: it looks as though it'd probably be fairly complex. Try asking on the forums, you might be able to get a better answer there than my quick one here.
11:40:18 <ChrisMorgan> Also more people'll notice it.
11:40:26 <ChrisMorgan> Create a new thread in the Request Apps forum.
11:40:51 <HHx> Thanks a lot
11:41:12 <ChrisMorgan> Looks like it could be a good one to do, but I'm rather busy at the moment.
11:43:01 <Horusofoz> here we go - http://www.taskjuggler.org/ :)
11:44:38 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: I presume you've looked at Task Coach and decided it won't do what you want?
11:45:25 <Horusofoz> I use TaskCoach Portable on a daily basis but need this for a Tafe project
11:45:34 <Horusofoz> here's a brief review - http://linux.about.com/b/2009/04/06/taskjuggler-free-project-management-tool-2.htm
11:45:37 <ChrisMorgan> k
11:45:52 <ChrisMorgan> I presume you've checked it's available for Windows?
11:46:38 <Horusofoz> yep:)
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11:47:07 <Horusofoz> wait crap I'm wrong
11:47:23 <ChrisMorgan> eep
11:48:40 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... Cygwin. Not doing that.
11:49:01 <ChrisMorgan> OK, back to eeny meeny miny mo :P
11:49:11 <Horusofoz> :D:(
11:49:18 <Bensawsome> i lol'd!
11:50:06 <ChrisMorgan> Random name geneator: Microsoft ... ARGH! It's gone wrong! ;-)
11:51:17 <Horusofoz> What about KPlato or are all natively KDE apps buggy under windows?
11:52:16 <ChrisMorgan> Not necessarily, some will depend properly on Qt 4, and so work decently on Windows, but normally, unless Windows is an officially supported platform, don't bother.
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11:52:40 <pabot> upnPAD wants official releases of Code::Blocks, Inkscape, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
11:53:15 <upnPAD> Bensawsome, yo!
11:53:23 <Bensawsome> ohai upnPAD >_>
11:53:38 <upnPAD> you're bash scirpt is cool
11:53:39 <upnPAD> for phenny
11:53:41 <upnPAD> .o bash
11:53:45 <pabot> http://bash.org/?952 // (Mutiny) Atarax: you ate a americum disk from a smoke detector? // (Atarax) Mutiny: yeah // (Mutiny) Atarax: why? // (Atarax) Mutiny: I thought it would give me special powers. // (Mutiny) Atarax: what did it do to you? // (Atarax) Mutiny: well, it didn't give me any spe... quote cut off, see link
11:53:49 <upnPAD> heh
11:53:52 <Bensawsome> oh not in the main channel upnPAD >_>
11:53:53 <upnPAD> wow i got that one before :s
11:53:57 <upnPAD> heh
11:54:05 <upnPAD> i was using it in my bot
11:54:06 <upnPAD> just realised you made it :P
11:54:10 <Bensawsome> lol
11:54:12 <Bensawsome> ot :P
11:54:21 <upnPAD> you should make one for urban dictionary ;//
11:54:24 <Horusofoz> ChrisMorgan: I guess open workbench is the way to go?
11:54:44 <Horusofoz> Wait I just recalled I think there was an issue with there license
11:56:33 <Horusofoz> :( http://www.openworkbench.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=39#developers
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11:56:43 <ChrisMorgan> I dunno.
11:57:38 <ChrisMorgan> K. Ah well.
11:57:51 <ChrisMorgan> Got a feeling I heard it mentioned with another IDE or something though... nm tho
12:01:10 <ChrisMorgan> BTW guys, if you want it, http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/PortableApps.comLauncherTest_2.paf.exe
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12:05:46 <ChrisMorgan> RELEASE: Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test 2 - http://portableapps.com/node/19188
12:06:03 <ChrisMorgan> Wait, I've got the linky wrong! :o
12:06:36 <ChrisMorgan> Should be http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/PortableApps.comLauncherTest_2_English.paf.exe
12:07:19 <ChrisMorgan> OK, PROPER RELEASE: Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test 2 @ http://portableapps.com/node/19188
12:09:41 <ChrisMorgan> Oh grr, wrong again :s
12:10:37 <ChrisMorgan> OK, take 3: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/ChrisPortableApps.comLauncherTest_2_English.paf.exe, http://portableapps.com/node/19188
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12:11:36 <pabot> Suiseiseki is desu
12:12:16 <Horusofoz> :)
12:12:26 <Horusofoz> hey Chris how about - http://ganttproject.biz
12:12:59 <ChrisMorgan> .biz... interesting...
12:13:06 <Horusofoz> GPL, Java, Last updated December 2008 so likely to still be active
12:13:39 <Horusofoz> forums seem pretty active too
12:13:51 <ChrisMorgan> The inclusion of the "nominate for community choice awards" image is a good sign of activity.
12:14:11 <ChrisMorgan> Java... ah well :P
12:14:38 <Horusofoz> hey we Have the Java Porter now
12:17:10 <ChrisMorgan> And yesterday or so the installer for it, able to download it from online and install it without needing a local installation, was to have been released... ;-)
12:17:52 <Horusofoz> was to have been? Past/Future tense? What the?
12:18:25 <ChrisMorgan> I mean a couple of days ago John said "tomorrow" :P
12:18:43 <ChrisMorgan> Just like the installer 0.91 was due a couple of days ago :P
12:18:54 <Horusofoz> GanttProject is definitely still active - http://ganttproject.blogspot.com/
12:19:07 <ChrisMorgan> And the PortableApps.com Platform 1.6 Pre-Release 1 was due a month or so ago :P
12:19:32 <Horusofoz> its all accurate in "Developer Days". You know like Dog Years :D
12:20:36 <ChrisMorgan> http://www.ganttproject.biz/download :s The downloads are at Google Code, but they're getting themselves nominated for the SF comm choice awards...
12:20:44 <ChrisMorgan> Which, while valid, just misled me at first...
12:21:08 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I like it, nice and small (comparatively) - I'll try it when I get an opportunity :-)
12:21:45 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... the linux package is a ZIP archive (the os independant one)
12:22:12 <Horusofoz> K what does that mean for us dummies :)
12:22:38 <ChrisMorgan> The OS independant thing means it's the Java JAR file, which will work on any platform with Java installed.
12:22:50 <Horusofoz> cool cool
12:23:01 <ChrisMorgan> The Windows installer does the same thing, but creates start menu icons as well...
12:23:09 <ChrisMorgan> And due to better compression (likely LZMA) it's a tad smaller as well.
12:24:01 * Bensawsome likes smaller stuff
12:24:29 <ChrisMorgan> A portable version will be "smaller".
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12:25:28 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
12:26:15 <ChrisMorgan> velcummm back dragonmage
12:28:23 <ChrisMorgan> ok Horusofoz I've downloaded it :-)
12:28:58 <Horusofoz> :):):)
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12:37:12 <ChrisMorgan> Hey, the cross-platform Gantt Project download is already practically portable! ganttproject.bat: http://mibbit.com/pb/pCyni7
12:41:40 <Bensawsome> hmmm java and batch... how about not :/
12:42:13 <Horusofoz> why not?
12:42:13 <ChrisMorgan> I mean, it shows exactly what they do to have a completely cross-platform solution with a shared data file.
12:42:55 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: a PortableApps.com launcher is neater.
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12:47:17 <ChrisMorgan> bai guise... goodnight.
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12:50:24 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually), and is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 AND RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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14:15:28 <Simeon2> HI all
14:15:52 <Bensawsome> hey Simeon2 :)
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14:16:13 <Simeon> now I have my real name :)
14:16:25 <Bensawsome> someone must have been using it >_>
14:16:40 <Bensawsome> oh and they were using the ipv6 protocol
14:18:44 <Simeon> meaning?
14:19:15 <Bensawsome> you dont know what ipv6 is....
14:19:31 <Bensawsome> ipv4 is like the xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ips
14:19:40 <Bensawsome> ipv6 is like this: 2001:4200:7000:3:213:72ff:fe9a:52ff
14:20:17 <Bensawsome> ipv4 ips are suspected to run out sometime in the next year or 2
14:20:41 <Bensawsome> so we need to move to ipv6
14:21:07 <Bensawsome> otherwise we will have no more ips XD
14:25:16 <Simeon> ah. I heared about that.
14:25:59 <Bensawsome> yep :/ not a good situation unfortunately
14:28:20 <Simeon> do all the programms support ipv6?
14:28:53 <Bensawsome> no
14:29:02 <Bensawsome> tthats another problem
14:29:56 <Simeon> a pretty serious one :)
14:30:11 <Bensawsome> ya :/
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15:50:23 <pa_8879> anyone?
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16:36:14 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually), and is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 AND RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271
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17:32:55 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable at PortableApps.com and is also developing musicplay3000 the open-source media player inspired by foobar2000
17:33:01 <ZachThibeau> hola guys
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17:55:35 <andreasma> hi
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23:55:24 <SergentSiler> ohey!