IRC Log from 2009-06-05
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00:14:12 <jnw222> hello
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00:15:18 <jnw222> i like how someone made a firefox test build
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00:17:04 <jnw222> now if someone just updated openoffice.org
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00:21:58 <thunderbird> help!
00:22:31 <sar3th> hello thunderbird, how can i help you?
00:22:37 * thunderbird help!
00:23:00 <thunderbird> how can I add my current pst files to thunderbird?
00:25:04 <thunderbird> like if I have OE on my comp how can I move the .pst files from that to thunderbird ?
00:27:13 <thunderbird> well?
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00:27:34 <Bensawsome> hmm
00:27:45 <Bensawsome> not sure if there are any thunderbird wizzes here currently
00:27:56 <Bensawsome> I dont use it either... sorry
00:28:01 <thunderbird> darn
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00:28:27 <thunderbird> 25 users on and not one has a clue on thunderbird
00:28:28 <Bensawsome> have you tried googling?\
00:28:35 <Bensawsome> well most of them are away
00:28:46 <thunderbird> have you tried making OE an app?
00:28:51 <Bensawsome> no we cant
00:28:56 <thunderbird> ?
00:29:10 <thunderbird> can I come back?
00:29:10 <Bensawsome> its isnt open source and microsoft's copyright laws dont allow us
00:29:24 <thunderbird> just wrecked my vid card and have to reboot
00:29:29 <Bensawsome> oh ya
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01:53:38 <wolfe.freenode.net> Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!" | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission.
01:53:38 <wolfe.freenode.net> Users on #portableapps: palogbot abc528 powerjuce|away @Gizmokid2005|AFK Jeremified dbdii407 Bensawsome dzjepp sancas bastian sar3th Suiseiseki Guest46344 dabossbv1 dragonmage Twinkletoes|W MaienM|Sleep Zarggg +pabot +zz_ZachThibeau inked tarbo Mir SrgSiler|AFK StatBot
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02:15:00 <ChrisMorgan> .def I_think_pabot_has_a_database_error
02:15:01 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: Database error occurred
02:15:06 <ChrisMorgan> Call rmccue!
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02:15:45 <pa_0277> having problems with the updater
02:16:02 <ChrisMorgan> What problems?
02:16:13 <pa_0277> md5 does not match
02:16:23 <pa_0277> for every program
02:16:29 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm.
02:16:55 <ChrisMorgan> I personally don't use the updater, so I may not be able to help
02:16:59 <Bensawsome> Well it's still in beta so there is bound to be problems with it :/
02:17:06 <Bensawsome> i get that sometimes
02:17:09 <pa_0277> true story
02:17:12 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: wrong attitude... :P
02:17:14 <Bensawsome> so i just have to download it normally
02:17:29 <ChrisMorgan> I'm still stuck with Beta 1 and it had a bug so it couldn't upgrade itself to beta 2 :P
02:17:50 <pa_0277> chris, cant you just manually install beta 2?
02:17:59 <Bensawsome> there is no manual
02:18:05 <Bensawsome> you have to use the installer :/
02:18:18 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: i.e. download B2, install.
02:18:20 <Bensawsome> although ChrisMorgan you could have deleted the old install and reinstalled fresh
02:18:36 <ChrisMorgan> pa_0277: yes, I can, but it means I actually have to /do/ something! :po
02:18:46 <pa_0277> hmm, maybe ill try beta1, do i just need to delete the updater directory?
02:18:48 <Bensawsome> lol
02:18:56 <ChrisMorgan> Don't go Beta 1, use Beta 2.
02:19:14 <pa_0277> well beta 2 isnt working... and i figure ill try beta 1 and then upgrade to beta 2
02:19:17 <ChrisMorgan> I'm just saying that that's what I've got installed, and it had a bug so I can't use it to update itself... so it's useless.
02:19:17 <Bensawsome> ya if b2 has problems then b1 is defintely gonna be screweyt
02:19:19 <ChrisMorgan> NO!
02:19:23 <ChrisMorgan> NOOO!
02:19:28 <Bensawsome> no a fresh install is always better
02:19:33 <ChrisMorgan> WAIT!
02:19:43 <ChrisMorgan> Beta 1 will not work: it will just say that you need to update to Beta 2...
02:19:47 <ChrisMorgan> which it then won't do.
02:19:57 <Bensawsome> lol ya cause then changed several things with it
02:20:02 <pa_0277> ok here are the 2 message i get...
02:20:02 <Bensawsome> i just remembered that XD
02:20:35 <ChrisMorgan> Marvellous auto-updating which doesn't work and won't work until you update it... ;-)
02:20:44 <ChrisMorgan> .pa PortableApps.com Updater Beta 2
02:20:55 <pa_0277> c:\users\matt\appdata\local\temp\data\setup download aborted! do you want to stop all tasks and close the updater
02:21:09 <Bensawsome> ya cause the mde5
02:21:11 <ChrisMorgan> Did you press cancel?
02:21:11 <Bensawsome> *md5
02:21:22 <ChrisMorgan> wakey wakey pabot...
02:21:30 <ChrisMorgan> .g site:portableapps.com PortableApps.com Updater Beta 2
02:21:31 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: http://portableapps.com/node/16779
02:21:33 <pa_0277> then i hit no, and it says md5 checksums of gimp do not match. your download may have been corrupted
02:21:43 <Bensawsome> well we know the error
02:21:48 <pa_0277> package blah.blah.exe is deleted
02:22:04 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I'm downloading B2 for myself now :P
02:22:27 <pa_0277> ok, question, when i intall, do i just install it into the directory with the rest of the apps?
02:22:43 <ChrisMorgan> It should be going in the default location normally.
02:22:54 <ChrisMorgan> X:\PortableApps\PortableAppsUpdater
02:23:04 <pa_0277> ok, i have that
02:23:21 <pa_0277> how could i delete this properly and install it again?
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02:23:35 <dbdii407> Just delete the folder and reinstall
02:23:43 <ChrisMorgan> Actually, if you just reinstall it it'll get rid of the old instance itself.
02:24:18 <pa_0277> cool. i read somewhere in the thread below the beta 2 something about the underscores in the filename
02:24:25 <pa_0277> i wonder if there is a way to fix that
02:24:34 <ChrisMorgan> That was in the database, it's been fixed now.
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02:26:14 <pa_0277> hmm, i wonder the reason for this boner
02:26:18 <pa_0277> bad mirror?
02:26:28 <Bensawsome> well all we know its a bad mirror
02:26:30 <Bensawsome> errr
02:26:32 <Bensawsome> download
02:26:44 <Bensawsome> it could be the mirror, an error in the downloader
02:26:51 <pa_0277> how do i change the mirror?
02:26:59 <Bensawsome> that i dunno
02:27:03 <Bensawsome> lol it should be in the topic
02:27:10 <ChrisMorgan> I can't remember... look in help.html or Other|Source\readme.txt
02:27:42 <ChrisMorgan> Should be, somewhere.
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02:30:39 <pa_0277> hmm
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02:34:23 <ChrisMorgan> ... just too late.
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02:36:25 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Tim
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02:38:30 <Whibo> pabot :(
02:38:51 <Whibo> come on
02:38:54 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, database problems again.
02:39:10 <ChrisMorgan> .def pabot's_database is wonky
02:39:12 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: Database error occurred
02:39:44 <Whibo> .def Whibo
02:39:45 <pabot> Whibo: Database error occurred
02:39:51 <Whibo> :(
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02:40:59 <dbdii407> Woo!
02:41:12 <dbdii407> No defs for a change. :D
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02:45:51 <ChrisMorgan> ChrisMorgan is filling in for pabot!
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03:07:11 <pa_3557> testing
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03:07:40 <TimClark> test received
03:07:46 <LOGAN> hi guys
03:07:54 <LOGAN> http://portableapps.com/node/19485
03:08:20 <pa_3557> than you morgan for the first launcher
03:08:24 <LOGAN> i hope this wasnt posted before
03:08:28 <TimClark> Read about it last week
03:08:37 <Bensawsome> grr stupid microsoft
03:08:38 <TimClark> but not post on our forum yet
03:08:47 <LOGAN> my portable firefox has aquired it as well
03:09:04 <LOGAN> I donder if its in the app data folder or on the windows system
03:09:41 <TimClark> Bensawsome: it was intended to allow folks who had that version of .net to use .net apps in FF
03:10:22 <Bensawsome> im fine with that. i just hate the fact that microsoft automatically installs it without asking the user and makes the have to uninstall it in a special way
03:10:34 <Bensawsome> *makes the user
03:10:51 <LOGAN> i delete the firefox portable and re-install
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03:10:55 <LOGAN> see if it keeps out
03:11:05 <Bensawsome> ummm wouldnt it reinstall it...
03:11:16 <LOGAN> Bensawsome: the addons purpose it to silently install programs on your pc :(
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03:11:46 <Bensawsome> ya... it shouldnt silently do anything. it SHOULd ASK. blargag =_=
03:11:48 <TimClark> LOGAN: The .NET Framework Assistant is added at the computer level so that its functionality can be used by all users at the computer level instead of at the user level. As a result, the Uninstall button is unavailable in the Firefox Add-ons menu because standard users are not permitted to uninstall machine-level components
03:11:52 <pa_2636> heard of revounistaller
03:12:04 <pa_2636> it might clean it out easier
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03:13:26 <LOGAN> TimClark: i removed and reinstalled firefox, lets see if its still linked to firefox
03:14:00 <LOGAN> yep its still there.
03:14:10 <TimClark> [nick]: pa_2636 could you use a nick that starts with a letter please and not a " [ "?
03:14:10 <LOGAN> well im removing all of .net now
03:14:38 <[nick]> you should try revouninstaller portable, it removes addons or anthing touching the firefox installation
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03:14:59 <ChrisMorgan> That's not the problem really. And it wouldn't be portable - it'd break things locally
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03:15:42 <[nick]> hey thanks for helping develop the portableapps launcher by the way
03:16:23 <ChrisMorgan> CPALT?
03:16:48 <TimClark> your kidding right ?
03:17:02 <ChrisMorgan> What's there is just the start - soon it'll be being developed further with John and then it'll be going official.
03:17:11 <ChrisMorgan> TimClark: who? About what>
03:17:36 <[nick]> so basically you just preprogrammed it before it get's released?
03:17:59 <TimClark> the self-grandizing name and now acronym :P
03:18:08 <ChrisMorgan> wha..?
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03:18:49 <ChrisMorgan> No, I started doing it really just because although John had said he was working on something like it, I reckoned from what I'd seen of his NSIS techniques that I could do it better (mainly due to LogicLib) and faster (he has a lot more which he does)
03:18:58 <ChrisMorgan> OK, lunch time now, bbl.
03:19:23 <[nick]> is it possible to make the portableapps launcher gui friendly or is there an easier way to understand the coding
03:19:28 <ChrisMorgan> As a matter of fact, John has since followed my lead with using LogicLib - e.g. PAI now uses it, and it's loads easier to maintain.:-)
03:19:36 <ChrisMorgan> [nick]: have you read help.html?
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03:19:44 <[nick]> oh
03:20:20 <[nick]> maybe they should use a help.exe jk
03:21:05 <TimClark> [nick]: pa_2636 could you use a nick that starts with a letter please and not a " [ "?
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03:21:45 <TimClark> thank you
03:21:58 <nameless> why what was the problem?
03:22:29 <TimClark> First it's harder to type, and for those who sort alphabetically it unnessicarlly pushes your name to the top of the list
03:22:38 <LOGAN> i removed all .net stuff and reinstalled firefox portable, its gone now
03:22:49 <LOGAN> no more drive by installations :)
03:23:01 <TimClark> LOGAN: you did not want to use the recommended fix ?
03:24:19 <LOGAN> well atm im dissapointed in .NET so gonna avoid .net apps for the time being
03:24:49 <TimClark> ahh, understood, do you recall why you installed it in the first place ?
03:25:18 <TimClark> .Net, not the extention
03:25:21 <LOGAN> it came with the 3.5 update to .net 3
03:25:33 <LOGAN> coming from windows update
03:25:45 <LOGAN> and it didnt show up as seperate option
03:25:49 <TimClark> I mean to you recall why you installed .net in the first place, any version
03:25:56 <TimClark> do you*
03:26:11 <LOGAN> probably a game and a piece of software, things like that
03:26:19 <TimClark> ahhh
03:26:20 <LOGAN> GTA4 needs .net for example
03:27:40 <nameless> what programs do you you use to make sure that nothing is left behind or is regshot the best
03:28:16 <TimClark> Many folks use regshot
03:28:33 <nameless> ok thank you
03:28:48 <nameless> I hope regshot is going to be released someday
03:33:11 <nameless> is there any other programs that scan other directories besides registries
03:33:54 <TimClark> I'm sure there are, I don't know any names off hand
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03:35:11 <TimClark> Well guys time for thursday night vampire videos, hope you all have a good one.
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04:27:34 <JacobMastel> Hello all
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04:28:36 <ChrisMorgan> Hey JacobMastel
04:28:59 <JacobMastel> What's up Chris?
04:29:39 <ChrisMorgan> Inkscape Portable's prospects are looking up with JonCruz having committed a patch which I submitted to allow INKSCAPE_PORTABLE_PROFILE_DIR to override the settings location :-)
04:29:45 <ChrisMorgan> So 0.47 will be ready to go :-)
04:30:01 <JacobMastel> :D
04:30:06 <JacobMastel> That souds good
04:30:29 <ChrisMorgan> It isss, it isss :-)
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04:30:55 <JacobMastel> Hi drag|back
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04:31:23 <ChrisMorgan> Whew... we don't need to keep three dragons :-)
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04:31:51 <JacobMastel> ChrisMorgan: Discrimination is unlawful :
04:31:52 <JacobMastel> :P
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13:52:45 <Bensawsome> palogbot: uri
13:52:45 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-06-05#T13-52-45
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14:45:07 <pa_3419> anyone here?
14:45:34 <WastePo1ato> Hi.
14:46:51 <pa_3419> Hey, what's going on with defraggler in the forum? I can't find anything saying that it's open source and the guy is posting links to download defraggler portable
14:47:45 <pa_3419> http://portableapps.com/node/12512
14:49:47 <pa_3419> Looks like someone also told him last year that it's not open source and he's still actively posting about it.
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14:53:34 <sar3th> pa_3419: he only posts the launcher, that is okay as far as i know
14:54:23 <sar3th> even for non-oss apps
14:54:37 <sar3th> it won't be a real official app though
14:55:25 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3419: launchers to non-oss apps are ok.
14:55:29 <Gizmokid2005> as we aren't modifying the app
14:55:36 <Gizmokid2005> or repackaging it
14:56:04 <pa_3419> http://www.mediafire.com/?mcyqd2ioblt You requested: Defraggler_Portable_en-us.paf.exe (594.5 KB)
14:56:22 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3419: look at the size
14:56:27 <Gizmokid2005> there is NO way that defraggler is that small.
14:56:29 <Gizmokid2005> none.
14:57:16 <Gizmokid2005> the download of defraggler for the installer is 810KB
14:57:29 <Gizmokid2005> please have accurate information before accusing illegal activites
14:57:33 <sar3th> pa_3419: it's okay, he did not include the application, only the launcher
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14:59:39 <pa_3419> I wasn't accusing that's he's doing something illegal, just that it's not open source and shouldn't be here. Also it's a concern that he posted links to download software offsite that may or may not be what it says.
15:00:16 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3419: it's not illegal.
15:00:22 <sar3th> pa_3419: download it and see for yourself, the launcher is completely opensource
15:00:24 <Gizmokid2005> the launcher is completely fine.
15:01:10 <Gizmokid2005> he didn't inclue the aplication
15:01:26 <Gizmokid2005> .title
15:01:28 <pabot> Gizmokid2005: Defraggler_Portable_en-us.paf.exe
15:01:38 <Gizmokid2005> .title http://portableapps.com/node/12512
15:01:41 <pabot> Gizmokid2005: Defraggler Launcher Only *Updated* [5/31/09] | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
15:01:55 <Gizmokid2005> it's launcher only pa_3419, and that is completely legit and fine as he did NOT include the application
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15:07:48 <pa_3419> I can understand that's what it is suppose to be. However, is there a way to tell that the .exe posted is legit? I don't know what's inside it.....I could name it perfeclysafesoftware.paf.exe, but that that mean it's safe to run? My only point is: Someone could link to download something off site and it may not be what it says but "looks" legit.
15:08:21 <pa_3419> I am sorry to bother you guys about it.....
15:08:42 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3419: you run that risk with ANYTHING that you download from anywhere...
15:11:46 <Gizmokid2005> if you are that worried about it, scan it with a virus scanner...
15:11:59 <Gizmokid2005> there have been other posts of it being used with no issue.
15:12:14 <Gizmokid2005> i fail to see an issue here.
15:13:02 <pa_3419> Thanks for your time
15:13:14 <Gizmokid2005> anything else pa_3419?
15:13:24 <pa_3419> no
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15:13:45 <sar3th> oh dran i wanted to tell him about virustotal.com
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19:15:55 <pa_8028> can i use this software on windows desktop
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19:16:17 <sar3th> >_>
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19:39:57 <andreasma> hi
19:43:10 <sar3th> hello andreasma
19:43:10 <ZachThibeau> howdy andreasma
19:43:33 <andreasma> howdy sar3th ZachThibeau
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20:24:20 <OliverK> hmm. what's wrong with pabot now? hi guys
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