IRC Log from 2009-06-07

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00:01:00 <Gizmokid2005> you may have a good idea, but none of us here can say one way or the other
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00:12:46 <TimClark> OMG he stored all this stuff on his desktop :O http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9828/scr1244332649.png
00:13:20 <TimClark> He obviously does not know how System Restore works
00:14:24 <sar3th> TimClark: what's wrong with system restore?
00:14:52 <TimClark> Did I say something was wrong with it ?
00:15:00 <TimClark> I swear by it
00:15:45 <sar3th> ah, you mean that his program files won't be touched by it, so the concept of sys restore will be useless?
00:16:01 <TimClark> EVERYTHING on you desktop is archived by system restore if you delete it even if is Gigabyes in size
00:16:39 <ptmb> O_O
00:16:53 <sar3th> ah okay, i get it now
00:16:54 <ptmb> now that will be a problem for him
00:17:02 <TimClark> evertime he lauches an app it is effecting SR, which is fine if that's what he wants, but I don't think it is
00:17:36 <TimClark> I keep my apps in MyDocuments, which is NOT monitored by system restore
00:17:38 <Bensawsome> well he has some cut down version of xp so he might not even have it on
00:17:55 <Bensawsome> i remember when he came last time
00:18:11 <TimClark> Your desktop is really not the place to keep anything other than short cuts, or folders with shortcuts
00:18:30 <sar3th> yup
00:18:37 <sar3th> my philosophy as well
00:18:43 <Bensawsome> lol
00:18:46 <TimClark> Again, unless you REALLY want them protected by System Restore
00:18:54 <Bensawsome> i save stuff on the desktop and gradually clear it off
00:19:11 <TimClark> and it is all archived for 90 days Bensawsome :O
00:19:35 <ptmb> Oh, I need to change my philosophy, as I try to usually keep only 6 shortcuts on my desktop, but sometimes I also place in it temporary files that I need in that moment and I move to a proper place when done using them
00:19:39 <Bensawsome> lol
00:19:47 <Bensawsome> i hate keeping shortcuts on my desktop
00:19:52 <Bensawsome> i always use the quick launch bar
00:20:00 <MaienM> same :P
00:20:02 <Bensawsome> much morer easy to access
00:20:05 <Bensawsome> *more
00:20:12 <sar3th> i use launchy
00:20:13 <TimClark> ptmb: those temp files are achived for 90 days too
00:20:21 <MaienM> I rarely even see my desktop
00:20:21 <sar3th> no need for mouse
00:20:23 <Bensawsome> damn you temp =_=
00:20:57 <TimClark> DO NOT download a 500MB installer to your desktop, DO NOT :O
00:20:58 <ptmb> as I said, I only keep 6 shortcuts, that are almost always useless :P but I'll try to get a folder in my documents with a shortcut to the desktop
00:21:25 <Bensawsome> yes i know that. anything bigger then 50 mb i dl to my 500gb internal drive
00:21:35 <ptmb> TimClark: in that point I am smart, I have all downloads being automatically sent to a folder called "Downloads" in MyDocument
00:21:52 <TimClark> ptmb: me too
00:22:18 <ptmb> (anyway, system restore is not a problem for now as I am in Linux, but i have to adapt for when I am in WIndows)
00:22:45 <TimClark> By the way, Tim swears by SR and thinks only a fool would turn it off
00:23:21 <MaienM> I don't even have it :P
00:23:24 <TimClark> You can make it keep points for less time, and use less space, so there is no real excuse to not have it turned on
00:23:46 <sar3th> yeah..if you want to delete all your previous points though
00:23:57 <sar3th> you have to disable it & re-enable it again
00:24:10 <sar3th> i usually do on a freshly installed windows
00:24:13 <Bensawsome> hehehe i wont need it when i get mai mac :D
00:24:31 <Bensawsome> ill be able to back it up using a nice handy applescript ^_^
00:24:44 <TimClark> mine is set to only keep 4 weeks [28 days] of points and not use more than a gigabyte of space
00:25:04 <sar3th> mine is set to default settings >_>
00:25:24 <TimClark> the default 90days and 12% of the drive is too much
00:25:35 <sar3th> well, i don't mind
00:25:48 <Gizmokid2005> I only have it on on my windows drive.
00:26:01 <TimClark> sar3th: oh, it won't hurt anything, just you really never want to go back more than a week or so
00:26:24 <TimClark> if you do, too many things can have changed
00:26:26 <Gizmokid2005> oh, and my programs drive
00:26:29 <sar3th> the only reason why i really dislike it is that it always activated on new drives, external hdd for example
00:26:46 <sar3th> it's useless there
00:26:50 <TimClark> tell windows you don't want it on that drive
00:26:52 <ptmb> well, I have to go, bye everybody
00:26:53 <sar3th> just blocking safe remove
00:26:55 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: the default of 12% on my windows drive is only 2.5Gb...that's not bad.
00:26:59 <sar3th> ya that's what i do all the times
00:27:01 <sar3th> bye ptmb
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00:27:17 <sar3th> Gizmokid2005: 5.7 gb for me :P
00:27:34 <Gizmokid2005> sar3th: my windows partition is only 20GB
00:27:39 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: you must have a small drive if that's the default
00:27:42 <TimClark> nm
00:27:47 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
00:27:54 <Gizmokid2005> I don't put anything on the C: drive that doesn't have to be
00:27:55 <Gizmokid2005> NOTHIGN.
00:27:56 <Gizmokid2005> *NOTHING
00:28:06 <Gizmokid2005> I changed the default isntall to D:\Program Files
00:28:12 <Gizmokid2005> my documents has been moved there also
00:28:17 <Gizmokid2005> and that's where all my DLs go
00:28:33 <Gizmokid2005> the performance increase is what I need
00:28:46 * TimClark wonders why when ever he brings this up that no one has for the secrect to make SR keep SR points for less time :/
00:29:06 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: I don't know that secret.
00:29:07 <TimClark> has asked *
00:29:16 <Gizmokid2005> I'll admit that
00:29:27 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: of course not, it's a secrect :P
00:29:33 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark:
00:29:36 <Gizmokid2005> give me 2 minutes
00:30:07 <TimClark> hint 1: It's measured in seconds :O
00:30:41 <TimClark> hint 2: you have to edit the registry
00:31:04 <sar3th> .g system restore time registry seconds
00:31:05 <pabot> sar3th: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295659
00:31:23 <Gizmokid2005> sar3th: lol
00:31:26 <Gizmokid2005> I just read through that
00:31:26 <Gizmokid2005> :)
00:31:33 <Gizmokid2005> I was just going to paste it :)
00:31:44 <sar3th> RPGlobalInterval?
00:31:57 <sar3th> actually, that result is USEFUL o0
00:32:03 <Gizmokid2005> yup
00:32:03 <TimClark> sar3th: be careful
00:32:26 <sar3th> ah no it's RPLifeInterval
00:32:35 <TimClark> much better
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00:33:02 <TimClark> sar3th: get a cookie :D
00:33:08 <sar3th> :D
00:33:17 * Gizmokid2005 sends sar3th an e-cookie
00:33:23 <sar3th> :D thx
00:33:34 <TimClark> DON'T mess with the settings unless you are SURE you know what you are doing
00:33:52 <Gizmokid2005> of course TimClark, it's registry :)
00:34:06 <TimClark> and some of those settings should NEVER BE played with
00:34:40 <TimClark> of course if you messed it up you could use System Restore to fix it :D
00:34:50 <sar3th> lol :D
00:34:53 <TimClark> Unless you killed System Restore :O
00:35:53 <TimClark> I think keeping them for 4 weeks is ok, but no less than two, just to be safe
00:36:56 * Gizmokid2005 admits that SR is enabled, though I've never used it...nor ever will
00:37:03 <TimClark> and if you change the amount of space it can use, be sure to calcualte that in relation to the time you set
00:37:19 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: i have never had to use it for myself either
00:37:36 <TimClark> I would consider it's use only in an emergency
00:38:10 <TimClark> but I want that option, always, to be availible
00:38:16 <Gizmokid2005> I won't even use it then, that's why I take nightly backups
00:38:34 <sar3th> wow nice Gizmokid2005
00:38:43 <TimClark> not is not my advice
00:38:46 <Gizmokid2005> sar3th: I only keep the last night, and then the last week, and then the last month.
00:38:50 <TimClark> that is not my advice
00:38:58 <Gizmokid2005> I know TimClark
00:39:09 <TimClark> but it will work
00:39:26 <sar3th> i thought about writing my own little backup program..it would provide general functions, used by app-specific plugins
00:39:53 <TimClark> In a sense a restore poin is a backup, but only of your important settings and files needed for the system to work
00:40:32 <TimClark> and things like your desktop, which is what broght us here in the first place :P
00:41:04 <TimClark> /bbs setting DVD recording
00:41:12 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not a new user either, and if it comes down to SR I'll just restore a backup and then I can use my nightly backup to restore any indiviual files/directories I may need
00:46:31 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: of course, my advice always assumes a non-geek
00:46:39 <Gizmokid2005> TimClark: I know :)
00:47:49 <TimClark> and worse, a newbie geek wanna be I think I'm hot crap type
00:48:19 <TimClark> like folks who I will not name who may or may note be in the channel right now :O
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00:49:13 <Gizmokid2005> lol yeah I hear ya there
00:50:15 <TimClark> hi upnPAD we were just talking about you
00:50:59 <TimClark> j/k j/k upnPAD , just kidding :P ..... or was I? :O
00:52:00 <upnPAD> k lol
00:52:34 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: quick, blank the logs :O
00:53:06 <Gizmokid2005> lol I don't have acecss
00:53:20 <TimClark> All incriminating evidence is now gone :P
00:53:33 <upnPAD> didn't even check :P
00:53:57 <TimClark> Only PatrickP can edit the logs
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01:06:17 <upnPAD> the they're no longer logs
01:06:27 <upnPAD> *then
01:09:21 <TimClark> upnPAD: expalin your question please
01:09:36 <upnPAD> what question?
01:10:33 <TimClark> I did not understand you last comment and it's correction and thought you might have been asking a question
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01:12:19 <TimClark> ok, I think you were saying "If the logs are edited they are no longer logs" , PatrickP only edits out illegal links and really foul language
01:13:26 <sancas> gool el salvador win
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01:22:51 <TimClark> sourceforge is no longer sourcePhail !
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01:32:23 <ZachThibeau> not it's slowforge for me
01:32:54 <TimClark> My point being it is up and running
01:33:16 <ZachThibeau> yeah but not eh login
01:33:18 <ZachThibeau> **the
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02:08:53 <alpha1beta> hey guys
02:09:05 <Bensawsome> hey alpha1beta :D
02:09:23 <alpha1beta> hey ben, what's with the new rules and stuff on the topic?
02:09:55 <Bensawsome> lol
02:10:00 <Bensawsome> wait.. wtf?
02:10:09 <alpha1beta> " Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | A '?' is not an intelligent reply"
02:10:12 <Bensawsome> lol i dunno where the last part came from
02:10:16 <alpha1beta> that's faily new
02:10:28 <Bensawsome> you are faily :P
02:10:30 <Bensawsome> XD
02:10:41 <Bensawsome> but the second to last one came from people continuously pming members on the channel top get support
02:10:43 <Bensawsome> *to
02:10:45 <alpha1beta> sorry, getting use to this netbook :D
02:11:06 <alpha1beta> got a Asus 1000HE as a grad present
02:11:10 <Bensawsome> actually it was added yesterday
02:11:12 <Bensawsome> the topic
02:11:20 <Bensawsome> according to mai stats ^_^ http://ircstats.info/portableapps.html
02:11:32 <alpha1beta> ah, yeah, I wasn't older than a week I knew that
02:11:38 <Bensawsome> lol
02:14:16 <alpha1beta> so what you been up to lately, out of school yet?
02:14:33 <Bensawsome> not yet :/
02:14:35 <Bensawsome> 23rd....
02:14:38 <alpha1beta> ouch
02:14:41 <Bensawsome> but
02:14:48 <Bensawsome> i also get my graduation present
02:14:56 <Bensawsome> and we should take this to ot shouldnt we >_>
02:15:02 <alpha1beta> please tell me not a mac :P
02:15:05 <alpha1beta> channel
02:15:10 <alpha1beta> s dead, no harm rly but ok
02:15:12 <Bensawsome> #PortableApps-OT
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02:26:02 <free> hello?
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02:26:16 <alpha1beta> hey, how can we help you?
02:26:16 *** free is now known as freerealmer
02:26:30 <freerealmer> have you ever heard of free realms?
02:26:38 <alpha1beta> no sir
02:26:48 <alpha1beta> what is it?
02:27:02 <freerealmer> an online game
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02:27:17 <freerealmer> but it installs things to your browser
02:27:28 <alpha1beta> and you want to know if it's portable?
02:27:46 <freerealmer> using an exe that puts said files on your computer
02:27:48 <freerealmer> and yes
02:28:09 <freerealmer> and I cant redirect the files it needs to firefox
02:28:39 <alpha1beta> you need to find out where those files are placed first, and usually, you can just copy them from the local plugins dir to the portable plugins dir
02:28:58 <freerealmer> they are all ddl files
02:29:09 <freerealmer> im confused by it
02:29:16 <freerealmer> it has them everywhere
02:29:29 <alpha1beta> ok, well first things first find them
02:29:38 <freerealmer> even the program files folder has ddl files in it
02:29:42 <alpha1beta> oh
02:29:45 <freerealmer> and only thode
02:29:54 <freerealmer> *those
02:30:04 <alpha1beta> then you need to make a launcher, check the forms for help on that, I'll get you a link
02:30:21 <freerealmer> ok
02:30:58 <alpha1beta> this is probably the most useful research http://portableapps.com/node/14868
02:32:08 <freerealmer> uuuh my head hurts
02:32:27 <freerealmer> I don't understand half of this stuff
02:32:51 <freerealmer> The best thing to do is to see if it is OSS
02:33:13 <alpha1beta> ok, if you explore the site a bit you'll find out we make portable launchers, that move,re-direct and find files
02:33:43 <alpha1beta> you can do it if it';s not OSS but you can't rly tell anyone and I can't help you with it, but I can give you the general idea of what we do
02:34:03 <alpha1beta> I would bet it's not OSS
02:37:09 <freerealmer> would the portable apps installer program help/
02:37:10 <freerealmer> ?
02:38:07 <freerealmer> http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_installer
02:38:09 <alpha1beta> that's part of it
02:38:38 <freerealmer> part?
02:39:25 <gluxon> Yes, part.
02:39:41 <freerealmer> of......?
02:39:45 <gluxon> It installs your program.
02:39:50 <alpha1beta> working on it..h.o. man
02:40:03 <gluxon> YOUR program.
02:40:07 <alpha1beta> well you use that as the installer, then you'd need to modify the launcher (the exe that starts the program when you click something in the PAN|M)
02:40:37 <gluxon> K, I'll go step by step on making a Portable Launcher, do you want me to do that? Or answer something else?
02:40:55 <alpha1beta> yes, please gluxon
02:41:02 <freerealmer> step bye step, or should I just upload the installer?
02:41:03 <alpha1beta> all yours
02:41:20 <gluxon> freerealmer: You can't make an installer with out making the program first.
02:41:32 <freerealmer> ?
02:41:42 <gluxon> K... I'll go into that later.
02:41:49 <freerealmer> look im an average joe, not a programmer
02:41:49 <gluxon> It'll make more sense at the end.
02:42:04 <gluxon> I'll go from a computer newbie perspective
02:42:09 <freerealmer> ok
02:42:28 <gluxon> To start, what machine are you on? And do you have admin privlidges (if you know what that is).
02:42:48 <freerealmer> windows xp and yes
02:43:03 <freerealmer> and its my comp
02:43:04 <gluxon> To start, let's get the utilities you need.
02:43:08 <freerealmer> ok
02:43:22 <gluxon> Do you want the link for the Portable Version of the Programs you need or the local version?
02:43:32 <freerealmer> portable
02:43:49 <gluxon> K.
02:43:54 <gluxon> Let me find the links.
02:43:59 <freerealmer> k
02:45:34 <gluxon> http://padp.googlecode.com/files/NIS_Edit_Portable_2.0.3_Development_Test_11.paf.exe
02:45:34 <gluxon> http://www.gizmokid2005.com/zachthibeau/portableapps/NSIS_Portable_2.44_Pre-Release%204.paf.exe
02:45:34 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/node/10969
02:45:37 <gluxon> Download those.
02:45:51 <gluxon> Then I'll get into some other programs that'll be a little more dificult to install.
02:46:16 <gluxon> BTW, sorry. You also of course need this: http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_installer
02:46:27 <freerealmer> got that one
02:46:35 <freerealmer> install them all?
02:46:49 <gluxon> Yes.
02:46:55 <gluxon> They're pretty small.
02:47:22 <gluxon> They'll probably take up a little less than 20 MBs.
02:48:22 <freerealmer> done
02:48:25 <gluxon> K.
02:48:31 <gluxon> Do you have a .zip reader?
02:48:39 <gluxon> If you know what that is?
02:48:41 <freerealmer> comes with windows
02:48:46 <alpha1beta> 7zip ftw
02:48:51 <freerealmer> and i got 7zip
02:48:55 <gluxon> K.
02:49:00 <gluxon> That makes things easier.
02:49:05 <gluxon> Download this...
02:49:06 <gluxon> http://icofx.ro/files/icofxpe.zip
02:49:28 <gluxon> Extract the IcoFX 1.6 folder to the X:\PortableApps folder
02:49:33 <gluxon> Where X: is your drive letter.
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02:50:08 <freerealmer> d
02:50:23 <freerealmer> done
02:51:12 <freerealmer> ?
02:51:43 <freerealmer> u still there
02:51:44 <freerealmer> ?
02:51:59 <gluxon> Sorry.
02:52:11 <freerealmer> extracted
02:52:13 <gluxon> I was looking at the freerealms website.
02:52:14 <gluxon> K.
02:52:30 <freerealmer> next step?
02:52:49 <gluxon> Let's start by understanding how the program makes another program portable.
02:53:36 <freerealmer> k
02:53:42 <gluxon> You know those .exe's? For example, in X:\FirefoxPortable
02:53:47 <gluxon> There's FirefoxPortable.exe
02:53:50 <freerealmer> yes?
02:53:58 <gluxon> And in 7-ZipPortable... there's 7-ZipPortable.exe
02:54:01 <freerealmer> im using firefox now
02:54:11 <gluxon> Those are the programs that you'll make.
02:54:16 <freerealmer> yep I at least understand exe's
02:54:21 <gluxon> K.
02:54:44 <gluxon> Start by looking at how the PAF format works.
02:54:55 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format
02:55:13 <freerealmer> well first you do understand that freerealms is not an exe, just the installer
02:55:22 <gluxon> ?
02:55:32 <gluxon> I'll check it out and see how it works while you read that.
02:55:39 <freerealmer> k
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02:59:28 <gluxon> I managed to download that installer.
03:00:14 <freerealmer> run it then you will find ddl files in the program files folder
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03:00:30 <freerealmer> it almost seems to be a special ad-on
03:01:41 <gluxon> Which Folder in the Program Files?
03:02:07 <freerealmer> sony*
03:02:12 <gluxon> I didn't find anything in my G:\Program Files and C:\Program Files
03:02:38 <freerealmer> it will be called sony digital or something like that
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03:04:29 <gluxon> Ok, I found it.
03:04:58 <gluxon> Like alpha1beta said, it's normal to have dlls in a folder inside Program Files.
03:05:10 <freerealmer> but no exe
03:05:13 <gluxon> Ok. Go into that folder and copy those 3 files to your desktop.
03:05:14 <gluxon> ..
03:05:27 <gluxon> I found a uninstall exe
03:06:04 <freerealmer> ok done
03:06:21 <gluxon> Now, what's your email, I have to send you soemthing.
03:06:55 <freerealmer> jamieboysrule@hotmail.com
03:08:08 <gluxon> Sent.
03:09:29 <freerealmer> recieved
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03:10:55 <freerealmer> and extracted
03:12:41 <freerealmer> hello?
03:12:53 <gluxon> Sorry.
03:13:02 <freerealmer> looking again?
03:13:18 <gluxon> K, Rename the AppNamePortable to FreeRealmsPortable Or FreeRealmPortable (your choice)
03:13:20 <gluxon> Yeah.
03:13:52 <freerealmer> done
03:14:59 <freerealmer> ..
03:15:08 <freerealmer> next
03:15:32 <gluxon> K.
03:15:37 <gluxon> Open up help.html
03:15:41 <gluxon> With notepad.
03:16:10 <freerealmer> k
03:16:17 <gluxon> Hey, if I'm gone, next time just type in my username (which is gluxon) my client will automaticly ping me and tell me that somebody want's me.
03:16:24 <freerealmer> ok
03:16:29 <gluxon> K.
03:16:47 <freerealmer> next step
03:16:48 <gluxon> Edit --> Replace
03:16:57 <freerealmer> where?
03:17:05 <gluxon> In the menu bar of Notepad.
03:17:14 <freerealmer> k
03:17:27 <freerealmer> find what and replace with
03:17:35 <gluxon> Find What: AppName
03:17:53 <gluxon> Replace With: FreeRealms (or FreeRealm whatever you chose)
03:18:13 <gluxon> Tell me if you choose FreeRealms or FreeRealm.. it'll make it easier on me.
03:18:21 <freerealmer> FreeRealms
03:18:27 <freerealmer> done
03:18:53 <freerealmer> gluxon: next
03:19:17 <gluxon> K.
03:19:31 <freerealmer> help is modified
03:19:35 <freerealmer> next
03:19:36 <gluxon> Scroll down to the bottom.
03:19:44 <freerealmer> k
03:19:49 <gluxon> Oh crude...
03:19:52 <gluxon> Do you know HTML?
03:19:55 <freerealmer> what?
03:19:59 <freerealmer> somewhat
03:20:20 <freerealmer> just use pastebin
03:21:22 <gluxon> ?
03:21:24 <gluxon> Oh.
03:21:29 <gluxon> I'll edit it for you then :P
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03:23:26 <gluxon> http://pastebin.com/d30013c23
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03:24:37 <gluxon> Delete everything in the file and replace it with the pastebin text.
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04:27:59 <pa_3904> hey
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05:19:49 <jax8> new user here. how can i get the usb to autorun the menu?
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05:41:37 <jeth> I was able to install a standalone app (PalMail) by simply creating a folder for it and copying all of it's files into that folder.
05:42:14 <jeth> The same process didn't works as cleanly for AVZ. Although it runs OK it shows up on the PA Menu as "?????????? AVZ"
05:43:58 <jeth> help
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06:20:25 <JAX8> HELP!
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08:49:53 <Horusofoz> Evening all
08:51:15 <Espreon> And good (early) morning to you.
08:53:04 <Horusofoz> Espreon :) Do you recall this - http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19000 - :)
08:53:31 <Espreon> Uh..................... no‽
08:53:48 <Espreon> 'Twas a failed conspiracy started by the Yakuza...
08:54:34 <Horusofoz> :D
08:54:41 <Horusofoz> See the last post in the thread?
08:54:41 <Espreon> Yeahz...
08:55:53 <Horusofoz> Any likelihood of this going ahead or not enough time?
08:57:10 <Espreon> Uh... I was naïeveness incarnate at the time...
08:58:07 <Espreon> So, uh, I probably will not do it until I learn how to actually make a good launcher rather than an abomination that I thought was good a couple years ago.
08:58:42 <Horusofoz> Have you had a suss at Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test?
08:58:55 <Espreon> A what‽
08:58:56 <Horusofoz> It supposed to make things a LOT easier
08:59:43 <Espreon> What is this "suss" of which thou speakest?
09:00:34 <Horusofoz> ahh sorry Australian slang. Means look.
09:01:01 <Espreon> Ah... Thank you for the clarification.
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09:06:25 * Espreon hopes that everyone has forgotten about the disgraceful Armogohma Suites.
09:07:20 * Horusofoz googles Armogohma Suites = )
09:08:17 <Espreon> NO!
09:08:41 <Espreon> Don't do it! If you do, your eyes will bleed!
09:09:24 <Horusofoz> :D:D:D:D:D
09:11:46 <Horusofoz> It's not that bad
09:11:58 <Espreon> Ðe deorcnes... will taketh thee to a horrible place... <insert other nonsense here>
09:12:05 <Espreon> Really now?
09:12:30 <Horusofoz> Look on the bright side
09:12:44 <Espreon> Yeah?
09:13:13 <Horusofoz> You got awareness of the suite out there a bit more plus learnt more for your self
09:13:29 <Espreon> I suppose...
09:16:27 <Horusofoz> If you want a laugh have a look at my first few posts. I was VERY keen on PortableApps.com early on but I needed to be told about 10 times b4 I understood what OSS was :)
09:18:37 <Espreon> Heh...
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10:10:26 <freerealmer> is gluxon here?
10:12:14 <freerealmer> or anyone else who can help me continue to make a portable apps
10:14:08 <sar3th> sure, ask your question
10:14:49 <freerealmer> i am in the middle of making a portable app with gluxon last night but I lost connection
10:15:02 <freerealmer> and I need help continueing now
10:17:03 <freerealmer> last thing he wanted me to do was something about HTML at the bottom of the help file sar3th
10:18:33 <freerealmer> all of the was for a freerealms
10:21:45 <sar3th> freerealmer: have you created a launcher yet?
10:22:12 <freerealmer> trying to
10:22:31 <sar3th> is it working yet?
10:22:57 <sar3th> because you should first finish the launcher and create the documentation (help.html) afterwards ;)
10:23:23 <freerealmer> hmm he had me doing the help.html now
10:23:56 <sar3th> well, you can of course go ahead and continue editing the heml.html
10:24:01 <sar3th> *help.html
10:24:03 <freerealmer> now before we go into this you should know that the program files it leave are a bunch of ddls
10:27:47 <sar3th> brb
10:28:13 <freerealmer> k
10:28:33 <freerealmer> you should install it and see what you are dealing with
10:29:27 <freerealmer> hmm looks like I won't need your help after all
10:29:49 <freerealmer> turns out, it didn't give me all of the files
10:30:09 <freerealmer> free realms is now a program I can copy/paste
10:30:32 <freerealmer> bye
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14:40:04 <pa_2922> how can I give you my app?
14:40:15 <sar3th> pa_2922: what app?
14:40:24 <pa_2922> my own
14:40:59 <sar3th> is it a portable app?
14:41:06 <pa_2922> yes
14:41:25 <sar3th> then you should create a forum post at the development forum
14:41:33 <pa_2922> Ok
14:41:37 <pa_2922> thanks
14:41:43 <sar3th> sure, no problem
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14:54:32 <AppGuy> what is the res and color for system tray icons?
14:57:32 <sar3th> 16x16 at 32bit?
14:59:39 <AppGuy> yeah that works!
15:03:27 <AppGuy> thx
15:12:16 <AppGuy> Is there a way to have 2 programs in a autorun.inf?
15:20:02 <sar3th> AppGuy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorun
15:20:03 <sar3th> >_>
15:20:14 <AppGuy> :P
15:29:58 <AppGuy> :(
15:30:13 <sar3th> AppGuy: what's wrong?
15:30:38 <AppGuy> I see no 2 programs choice
15:31:46 <sar3th> :/
15:31:54 <sar3th> can you pastebin your autorun.inf?
15:33:32 <Bensawsome> you cant...
15:33:46 <Bensawsome> you need to make the autorun.inf launch a program which launches the 2 apps
15:33:59 <sar3th> Bensawsome: fail
15:34:07 <Bensawsome> ...
15:34:20 <AppGuy> i don't want to launch 2 apps, i want the choice between 2 apps to launch
15:34:29 <Bensawsome> ah
15:34:33 <Bensawsome> wwell same answer
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15:34:47 <Bensawsome> you have to launhc an app which gives you a choice ;)(
15:35:20 <AppGuy> well that sounds like fun :/
15:37:58 <AppGuy> ZachThibeau: How is Notepad2 coming along, I saw that post in the ahk forums, people are getting antsy
15:38:35 <ZachThibeau> first I need a hard drive
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15:38:54 <ZachThibeau> which should be soon
15:38:58 <AppGuy> you have no hard drive?
15:39:03 <Bensawsome> well those people can wait. this is open source for goodness sakes
15:39:11 <ZachThibeau> AppGuy: mine died :(
15:39:16 <MaienM> if they wanna make demands, they better pay too
15:39:19 <AppGuy> well that stinks
15:39:31 <ZachThibeau> yeah been without a hard drive for a good part of the month
15:39:38 <ZachThibeau> though tomorrow is my birthday :D
15:39:48 <Bensawsome> lol exactly MaienM :D
15:39:58 * ZachThibeau will be 21 tomorrow
15:39:59 <ZachThibeau> got to go
15:40:04 <ZachThibeau> people showed up at my door
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15:40:46 <AppGuy> guys want to see the post?: http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic37652.html&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=notepad2&start=75 , it is at the bottom
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17:04:03 <ZachThibeau> back y'all
17:10:13 <powerjuce|video> wb ZachThibeau
17:10:25 <powerjuce|video> btw is there a way to find out if something is writing to a drive?
17:10:57 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce|video: process monitor
17:11:35 <powerjuce|video> does process explorer work as well?
17:15:10 <powerjuce|video> Gizmokid2005: how do u get it to find wirtes?
17:15:25 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce|video: just process monitor
17:15:35 <powerjuce|video> yea i did
17:15:41 <powerjuce|video> now what do i fillter
17:16:03 <Gizmokid2005> just change the filters
17:16:26 <powerjuce|video> yea what do i change the filter 2?
17:16:30 <Gizmokid2005> han gon
17:16:32 <Gizmokid2005> *(hang on
17:16:32 <powerjuce|video> like do i change the path?
17:16:52 <Gizmokid2005> the 4 buttons at the top that are cliked, registry, file system, network, and process
17:16:57 <Gizmokid2005> only select file system
17:17:01 <Gizmokid2005> then just filter on the process you want.
17:17:25 <Gizmokid2005> and you can filter on the operations too
17:17:52 <powerjuce|video> i got it
17:18:00 <powerjuce|video> i just filterted it to path E:\
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17:23:31 <powerjuce|video> anyone kno why movie maker keeps reading from a portable drive?
17:24:24 <Gizmokid2005> because it's microsoft? do you have anything on it that is a source, or anything?
17:25:47 <powerjuce|video> i used to but then i took them onto the desktop
17:26:02 <powerjuce|video> then i redid all the files so that they would read off the desktop
17:26:18 <powerjuce|video> and all this does is do a dir query
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17:26:38 <andreasma> hi
17:26:55 <Gizmokid2005> not sure powerjuce|video
17:27:22 <powerjuce|video> yea lets just blame microsoft :P
17:27:31 <powerjuce|video> aight cya all i am offically away
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18:44:19 <TimClark> Moderator Tim needs the assistance of an advanced/knowledgeable Dev please
18:45:00 <MaienM> ehm, I'm available if I fall under that category
18:46:07 <TimClark> pm MaienM
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19:00:12 <TimClark> Hello Gizmokid2005 :D
19:02:00 <Gizmokid2005> hello TimClark
19:03:26 <TimClark> ZachThibeau: thanks for the vote of support
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19:08:50 <wolfe.freenode.net> Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!" | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | A '?' is not an intelligent reply
19:08:50 <wolfe.freenode.net> Users on #portableapps: palogbot @TimClark sancas ptmb Res2216firestar abc528 powerjuce|away ZerFEr Zarggg sar3th dabossbv Guest46344 MaienM dbdii407 @PatrickP|Away @Gizmokid2005 Bensawsome Twinkletoes|W +pabot +ZachThibeau inked tarbo Mir SrgSiler|AFK StatBot
19:08:51 <MaienM> Auto-Message: palogbot has been restarted.
19:09:48 <Gizmokid2005> gj MaienM :)
19:09:59 <MaienM> :)
19:10:09 <Gizmokid2005> now if you'd just hand me that script ;) lol
19:10:30 <MaienM> nah, two people using it at the same time would get messy :P
19:11:04 <TimClark> very
19:11:07 <Gizmokid2005> lol I agree
19:11:14 <Gizmokid2005> I'm talking for other channels
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20:47:55 <TimClark> now where did Gizmokid2005|AFK go :(
20:48:29 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> sister's B-day party, bbl
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20:56:18 <ZachThibeau> sorry TimClark I was away but you are most welcome
21:13:53 <TimClark> is nick registration/idenification per server, i.e., I am identified here on freenode.net but if I join another SERVER I am not
21:15:38 <ptmb> TimClark: yes, you need to register in each server, and identify in ech server too
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21:19:48 <TimClark> ty ptmb
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22:36:43 <TimClark> He's baaack :/ http://portableapps.com/node/19508 "New Keepass is out, request for portableapps please"
22:37:45 <TimClark> I'm temped to "lable" nag requests with [NAG] :-(
22:38:06 <TimClark> or [Gimme !!!]
22:38:30 <sar3th> TimClark: i think simeon's anser is enough
22:39:00 <TimClark> oh, of course, I meant in the future
22:39:17 <TimClark> This was his second one in a week
22:39:31 <TimClark> with same basic reply
22:40:04 <sar3th> wow :(
22:40:34 <TimClark> and as simeon pointed out, he knows better, he has done this before and been told
22:41:05 <TimClark> At this point he is just "disrespecting" what he has been told
22:41:54 <TimClark> The next time I may just reply that ALL his NAG requests will be deleted WithOut comment
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22:55:47 <TimClark> Anyone know how to get a new irc password when you have forgotten yours ?
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22:58:03 <MaienM|Sleep> TimClark: as far as I know, you'd have to ask the staff for help (#freenode)
22:58:10 <MaienM|Sleep> or well, thats how it is for freenode
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23:09:15 <bjenn> can someone help me?
23:09:29 <TimClark> What do you need bjenn ?
23:10:15 <bjenn> how to uninstall a program that i have in my usb?
23:10:28 <bjenn> i dont know how to explain, sorry.
23:10:58 <bjenn> see i have portable apps running and i want to uninstall some of the software i installed before.
23:11:09 <MaienM|Sleep> bjenn: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#removingapps
23:11:11 <TimClark> Are you using the Platform/Menu ?
23:11:29 <TimClark> gee MaienM|Sleep give me a sec :P
23:11:57 <MaienM|Sleep> :P
23:12:09 <TimClark> bjenn: MaienM|Sleep is correct, basically you delete the app folder
23:12:49 <TimClark> So to remove firefox portable you would delete x:\portableapps\firefox
23:12:50 <bjenn> thanks guys. big help. good day.
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23:13:01 <TimClark> good bye
23:13:25 <TimClark> So MaienM|Sleep , do you often talk in your sleep :P
23:13:35 <MaienM|Sleep> yeah, quite regulary
23:14:05 <MaienM|Sleep> when I have problems falling asleep :P
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23:31:29 <dbdii407> .tell gluxon I won't know why your bot is blocked until you give me a message. If it gives you a URL, than it's not me.
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23:31:37 <dbdii407> ZZzz
23:31:57 <dbdii407> Memoserv's better anyways..
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