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02:17:48 <pabot> Espreon is a lazy person who is awesome... If you give him a bottle of quality white tea good things will happen to you!
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02:31:53 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
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02:35:10 <pabot> Suiseiseki is desu
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02:50:23 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
02:50:29 <JohnTHaller> hola
02:51:26 <excid3> hello JohnTHaller
02:52:35 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition 3.0.11: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-05-11_-_firefox_portable_3.0.11
02:53:33 <excid3> nice :)
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02:57:11 <Thisfire> hmm... johns actually here... ive always wanted to talk to him...
02:57:24 <Thisfire> are you here?
02:58:02 <Thisfire> ...guess not...
02:58:15 <excid3> Thisfire: he is here
02:58:31 <excid3> he said something about 5 mins ago
02:58:35 <excid3> he will be back im sure
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03:11:45 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many - And from all the lands on earth we come - We share a dream and sing with one voice - I am - You are - We are PAppsian " :)
03:11:56 <JohnTHaller> I'm here... you're welcome :-)
03:12:09 <JohnTHaller> I'm just posting the new PA.c Installer
03:12:20 <TimClark> JohnTHaller: open tag/typo in news release -> issue on Vista./p> <-
03:12:53 <Thisfire> oh. cool.
03:13:42 <Thisfire> i found your site when you first made it, and wanted to say thanks for all the great package..ment... of the apps
03:14:28 <excid3> yeah i remember those good days before PA.c, quite a lot has changed!
03:14:46 <Thisfire> i use pstart though... cause i made a program that checks to see if any of my apps are hung up and it runs when i close it... and i cant do that with the portable apps menu...
03:15:13 <JohnTHaller> TimClark: fixed
03:15:13 <Thisfire> but i still use all the apps at portableapps.com
03:15:39 <JohnTHaller> Thisfire: You won't need that soon with the PA.c menu. It'll do that for you.
03:15:58 <Thisfire> nice
03:16:53 <Thisfire> woo hoo i mean, ive been waiting for that.
03:17:49 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, there are a lot of features coming. We're just stabilizing the format and installer first so everything works together.
03:17:58 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: PortableApps.com Installer 0.91.2: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-11_-_portableapps.com_installer_0.91.2
03:18:07 <JohnTHaller> PA.c Installer now does plugin installers :-)
03:19:10 <excid3> sweet :D
03:19:27 <TimClark> Of course JohnTHaller in this case I wish you had not been quite so quick with the FFP release, I had a great reply ready for the first Nag/Gimme about it :P
03:23:20 <JohnTHaller> I'm gonna do a new Flash installer tomorrow. Shockwave, too.
03:24:06 <TimClark> Shockwave, cool, I never really knew what that was for
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03:25:19 <TimClark> Flash of course I know, as you know, but not shockwave, never ran accross a need for it, but I will test if I can be pointed to a site that needs it
03:25:57 <JohnTHaller> shockwave does some more advanced games mainly
03:26:04 <Thisfire> its been a while since ive used shockwave.. before flash, it was the best for games on the net in pages
03:28:14 <TimClark> I will install, test , give feed back, .... and then totally block it forever unless future testing is needed :P
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04:00:47 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
04:02:41 <JohnTHaller> ok, i need sleep. more tomorrow
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04:04:15 <gluxon> Awww.... I must have anti-john spray on me. :(
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04:07:31 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
04:09:12 <JacobMastel> gluxon is such a dummy :P
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04:39:38 <alpha1beta> hi gents
04:41:39 <JacobMastel> Hi alpha
04:41:45 * JacobMastel is working on an AHK script
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04:43:42 * alpha1beta quit my ahk script, cause I found that I could set WIN+other keys with songbird, and it would work while not focused lol, 2 hours of my life wasted
04:44:52 <JacobMastel> http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=274559#274559
04:44:53 <JacobMastel> lol
04:44:56 <JacobMastel> Take a look at that
04:47:23 <JacobMastel> Ever noticed they really aren't helpful in the ahk channel?
04:47:32 * alpha1beta is looking but zune..eww
04:48:32 <alpha1beta> now did you get that to work, at least a little yet
04:53:18 <JacobMastel> No
04:53:22 <JacobMastel> I'm not sure why
04:53:32 <JacobMastel> For some reason when I watch the process it comes up and dies in a few sections.
04:54:21 <JacobMastel> I did edit the script though so refresh the page.
04:54:23 <alpha1beta> hmm running vista?
04:54:26 <alpha1beta> I got an idea
04:54:27 <JacobMastel> Yes
04:54:33 <JacobMastel> But I have other scripts that run fine
04:54:39 <alpha1beta> could you just make the app 100% transparent
04:55:31 <alpha1beta> would that work
04:55:46 <alpha1beta> [not sure of exactly what you want to do]
04:55:50 <JacobMastel> Yes I could do that! That would probably be easier though :P
04:55:55 <JacobMastel> Well no it won't
04:56:01 <alpha1beta> well wait..
04:56:03 <JacobMastel> I want it out of the taskbar it has to be hidden
04:56:24 <JacobMastel> Using the WinHide command
04:57:00 <alpha1beta> use a existing script, I know there's one to make a cmd line semi transparent [found via lifehacker so search there] then modify it to make that windows 100% transerparent, and idk what to do about the taskbar
04:57:46 <JacobMastel> The only way to get it out is using the WinHide command.
04:58:03 <JacobMastel> Either way something is screwed up in my If statement I think
04:58:07 <JacobMastel> I'm not sure which
04:58:24 <JacobMastel> Maybe I should tone it down and make it a constant thing in the tasktray and have a hide and show button.
04:58:31 <alpha1beta> I wish I could help more, but I'm just an idea man...
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05:19:54 <rbrt13> hello
05:24:33 <alpha1beta> hey rbrt13
05:25:08 <rbrt13> PNG is a great format, i just made a picture using just 0.27 bits per pixel
05:25:43 <alpha1beta> just so long as i's not gif
05:25:54 <alpha1beta> gif just sucks, no if or ands, but yes butts
05:26:42 <rbrt13> then i vecrotized the picture
05:26:49 <rbrt13> vectorized*
05:29:12 <rbrt13> there is only one problem
05:29:33 <rbrt13> the vectorized data takes more space then the raster data
05:30:04 <rbrt13> oh well, their both smaller then a jpg would be
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05:32:12 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
05:32:31 <rbrt13> hello dragonmage
05:32:50 <dragonmage> hi rbrt13
05:33:50 <alpha1beta> "Someday I'll find that peer and reset his connection!"
05:34:05 <rbrt13> ha
05:38:21 <rbrt13> what are people's guesses at what score ill be getting on the precalculus test i take tommorow
05:39:07 <alpha1beta> a lot.
05:40:28 <rbrt13> my guess i between 0% (if i miss the test) and 55% ( if i do exceptionaly well)
05:40:56 <rbrt13> in other words: my score < 80% needed to pass
05:42:11 <rbrt13> does anyone have any ideas on how to make a custom OS from scratch?
05:45:16 <rbrt13> good night
05:45:21 <rbrt13> i need to study
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07:31:48 <pabot> upnPAD wants official releases of Code::Blocks, Inkscape, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
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07:44:06 <ibreathemusic> hi, just want to say I think you are providing a great service making portable applications, Thank You
07:44:51 <ibreathemusic> quick question, do these applications write to the registry???
07:46:22 <ibreathemusic> john haller are you there, if not just wanted to say thanks !!
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09:14:35 <pa_0248> Hi
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11:43:54 <UweS> help! - Hello everybody
11:44:13 <UweS> Looking for an erase-tool, I found you tool
11:44:38 <UweS> Now I have one question converning "erasing free disk space"
11:45:29 <UweS> Does this mean, no files will be deleted ? Only free space on harddisk will be overwritten ?
11:46:02 <UweS> Thanks in advanced you answer
11:46:04 <UweS> Uwe
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12:16:57 <pabot> sar3th is here now..
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12:40:43 <wutsch> Hi, I have massiv problems downloading notepad++ from sourceforge servers. All other packages work fine, only this one is very slow and show no progress after 2 minutes anymore.
12:41:29 <wutsch> It is possible that the '++' string in the file name is generating problems? It also not possible to switch to another mirror.
12:41:52 <wutsch> If I switch by changing the URL by hand the same behavior is shown by the other mirror.
12:42:43 <sar3th> hello wutsch, normally notepad++ can be downloaded fine, the ++ in the file url does not break anything..probably sourceforge has issues again
12:43:27 <sar3th> this link works perfectly for me: http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/portableapps/Notepad++Portable_5.4.2.paf.exe
12:43:28 <wutsch> The strange thin gis that all other packages like firefox, winscp, winmerge, 7zip etc. worked fine.
12:43:45 <wutsch> I will try again.
12:44:35 <wutsch> the message I got by a click on your link: This file is currently unavailable. Click here to view this projects available releases.
12:44:47 <sar3th> o0
12:45:03 <sar3th> i can guarantee you that the link works
12:45:10 * Bensawsome tests it too
12:45:19 <Bensawsome> yep works for me
12:45:36 <sar3th> probably your connection is having trouble :(
12:45:40 <Bensawsome> mhmm
12:46:42 <wutsch> I will reset bowser cache (done before also) and restart my DSL router to get a new connection. Thanks for your help.
12:47:07 <wutsch> bye
12:47:19 <sar3th> bye wutsch, i hope that it will help you
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12:56:50 <pabot> Horusofoz is a long-term PortableApps.com user who can offer some low-level app support. But be nice and don't make him make you turn the other cheek!
12:57:10 <Horusofoz> Howdy guys
12:57:55 <sar3th> hey Horusofoz
12:58:56 <Horusofoz> Wazzup Sar3th
12:59:12 <Horusofoz> What's the talk tonight?
12:59:34 <Horusofoz> Any insider development discussions?
13:00:02 <sar3th> not really, it's very quiet at the moment :(
13:00:31 * Bensawsome screams
13:00:33 <Bensawsome> now it aint :D
13:00:40 <Horusofoz> lol :D
13:00:46 <Bensawsome> omg someone shot a guard at the holocaust museum D:
13:00:51 <Bensawsome> not cool man
13:01:00 <Horusofoz> That's messed up
13:01:07 * Bensawsome wants to kill em nao >_>
13:01:08 <Horusofoz> Where is the museum located?
13:01:13 <Horusofoz> nao?
13:01:13 * Bensawsome is jewish btw
13:01:17 <Bensawsome> http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/national/2009/06/10/holocaust-museum-shooting-other-recent-attacks-prove-domestic-extremism-a-threat.html
13:01:19 <Horusofoz> guessed that
13:01:20 <Bensawsome> dunno
13:01:22 <Bensawsome> nao == now
13:01:29 <Bensawsome> washinton
13:01:32 <Bensawsome> *washington
13:01:36 <Horusofoz> crikey
13:01:43 <Bensawsome> brb
13:02:14 <Bensawsome> back
13:02:24 <Bensawsome> just switching out batterys on mai laptop
13:02:31 <Bensawsome> *batteries
13:04:22 <Horusofoz> I hope you won't be offended Bed if I suggest we change subjects as that stuff is just way to messed up
13:07:36 <Bensawsome> ya >_>
13:07:46 <Bensawsome> err i mean no i wont and yes i allow you to :P
13:10:49 <Horusofoz> :D
13:11:20 <Horusofoz> Remind me what develpoment projects you 2 have on
13:11:40 <sar3th> only mingw/msys portable atm..later lyxportable
13:16:11 <Horusofoz> What do you think of PA's "official" game options?
13:16:43 <sar3th> Horusofoz: what do you mean?
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13:17:30 <Horusofoz> I mean what so you think of the official games as opposed to the games in the testing stages
13:17:54 <Horusofoz> There are quite a few but they seem to have been bottle necked in testing, some for quite a long time
13:21:55 <Horusofoz> I guess you don't think much of it = D
13:22:42 <Horusofoz> New subject - Did any of you guys see the movie Australia?
13:26:58 <Horusofoz> Anyone play Mana World?
13:31:27 <Bensawsome> i think the ones in testing are much better
13:31:32 <Bensawsome> i mean
13:31:40 <Bensawsome> i just dont like really any of the official ones
13:31:49 <Bensawsome> i cant wait till mana world comes out
13:31:53 <Horusofoz> Same
13:32:00 <Horusofoz> And Nexuiz and Warzone 2100
13:32:27 <Bensawsome> mhmm
13:32:31 <Bensawsome> things like that i like
13:32:40 <Horusofoz> ??
13:32:43 <Bensawsome> i dont really like sudoku or stuff like that much :/
13:33:09 <Horusofoz> I wonder how many downloads Mines gets? :D
13:33:28 <Bensawsome> lol
13:34:33 <Horusofoz> Even a decent chess game would be appreciated, very much preferably with a decnt inbuilt tutor
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13:59:54 <pabot> Suiseiseki is desu
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15:37:16 <kazuno> hello?
15:37:36 <kazuno> somebody read me?
15:37:45 <sar3th> hello kazuno, how can we help you
15:38:29 <kazuno> hi sar3th
15:38:29 <kazuno> i have a dude
15:38:40 <kazuno> how uninstall aplications of my portableapps?
15:40:42 <Gizmokid2005> kazuno: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#removingapps
15:43:04 <kazuno> O_O
15:43:08 <kazuno> wow
15:43:15 <kazuno> its very simple
15:43:17 <kazuno> XD
15:43:19 <kazuno> jajajajajajajajaajajajaja
15:43:19 <Gizmokid2005> kazuno: yup
15:43:24 <Gizmokid2005> if you look on that page
15:43:29 <Gizmokid2005> most questions should be answered
15:43:42 <kazuno> thanks
15:43:48 <Gizmokid2005> yw
15:43:57 <kazuno> i have a lot of app installed
15:44:10 <kazuno> but, i not play te mines XD
15:46:05 <kazuno> thanks for your help
15:46:22 <kazuno> :D
15:47:11 <kazuno> hi
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15:54:53 <dbdii407> He was spanish? O.o
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16:22:04 <dbdii407> I got an A on my Language Arts exam. :DDDDDDD
16:23:07 <dbdii407> Shocking because i never pay attention in that class. O.o
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16:48:12 <malikor> Where do I go to get the html file that goes in the PortableApps Directory? I'm attempting to create a portable program using the installer
16:48:40 <sar3th> malikor: copy it from another app and modify it
16:49:05 <malikor> alright, thank you
16:49:36 <malikor> i am trying to make Scribus portable because the one on the site is no longer being worked on
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18:32:08 <noodles> Hi, Is there a way to put apps of my own from my pc into this utility?
18:32:24 <noodles> Like revouninstaller
18:33:54 <noodles> Or can I only use portable app's apps?
18:33:55 <noodles> hehe
18:34:39 <sar3th> noodles: you have to convert them manually :(
18:34:53 <sar3th> if you want to carry them with you
18:35:32 <noodles> o okay thank you!!
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18:42:34 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
18:43:24 <sar3th> hey markomlm
18:43:26 <MaienM|Sleep> noodles: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps
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18:43:52 <MaienM> please note that that will NOT make them portable, so settings might be left behind
18:44:25 <noodles> Ok thank you
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18:58:51 <pabot> ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/
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19:35:01 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
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19:57:24 <pabot> Espreon is a lazy person who is awesome... If you give him a bottle of quality white tea good things will happen to you!
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20:44:35 <pabot> markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team
21:04:59 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-59-35.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
21:05:00 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
21:05:05 <JohnTHaller> hola
21:05:11 <sar3th> hey JohnTHaller :)
21:05:16 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
21:05:48 <JohnTHaller> how goes it?
21:06:48 <MaienM> good I guess
21:07:05 <MaienM> I see you just released a new installer update ;)
21:07:54 <MaienM> btw, the copyright statement of the rare ideas website needs to be updated to include the year 2009 ;)
21:10:11 <JohnTHaller> it's going pretty well. working on another hardware deal. and pitching some commercial software publishers. and working on OO.o 3.1
21:10:25 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: It says 2005-2009
21:11:12 <MaienM> http://rareideas.com/ri/ states 1996-2008 as far as I can see....
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21:15:29 <JohnTHaller> oh rare ideas... heh
21:16:03 <JohnTHaller> fixed
21:16:04 <JohnTHaller> thanks
21:16:24 <ZachThibeau> hola JohnTHaller :)
21:19:52 <JohnTHaller> howdy
21:21:05 <ZachThibeau> finally got my new hard drive
21:21:25 <ZachThibeau> next on my list of repairs is to fix my laptop adapter xD
21:21:46 <markomlm> howdy John
21:22:12 <JohnTHaller> hi markomlm
21:22:14 <JohnTHaller> how goes it?
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21:25:30 <markomlm> PortableApp.com Manager aka Updater Beta 2 is ready :-)
21:28:02 <dbdii407> Woo.
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21:28:17 <dbdii407> Too bad i use Linux. Will it still work on there?
21:28:36 <markomlm> over wine it will :-)
21:28:45 <dbdii407> Awesome. :)
21:29:41 <dbdii407> Wait? Has that been tested? :P
21:30:37 <ZachThibeau> I have used old version of the manager in wine :P
21:30:46 <ZachThibeau> so yes it's been tested :P
21:31:00 <dbdii407> Having it, and using it are different. :P
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21:35:20 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
21:35:22 <Guest71635> Hi, I am having trouble downloading and installing PortableApps. I keep getting a window that says: "Installer integrity check has failed . . . " What is the problem?
21:35:47 <gluxon> Redownload.
21:35:52 <gluxon> You have a corrupt installer.
21:36:22 <Guest71635> I have tried several times. What's the solution?
21:36:31 <gluxon> Where are you downloading to?
21:36:34 <gluxon> Desktop?
21:36:37 <gluxon> Flash drive?
21:36:43 <gluxon> Some place else?
21:37:09 <Guest71635> First I tried to a flashdrive (I prefer) and then to my hard drive.
21:37:48 <gluxon> Do you know what kind of partition your drive is formated?
21:38:21 <Guest71635> It only has one partition -- C drive
21:38:31 <gluxon> Drive, not hard drive.
21:38:38 <gluxon> Flash drive.
21:39:45 <Guest71635> I tried to download to a new 2gb flash drive, and then to my download file on C drive Hard drive
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21:41:03 <JohnTHaller> Guest71635: what are you trying to download specifically? and do you know which SourceForge mirror it's having you download from (Voxel, etc)?
21:42:13 <Guest71635> I am trying to download "PortableApps". The download source is whatever your default download source is.
21:42:46 <gluxon> ?
21:43:00 <gluxon> The default depends on what location you are on the earth.
21:43:07 <JohnTHaller> I know, but which one? The standard suite, the light suite or just the platform? And SourceForge will automatically give you a mirror (there are a dozen) based on your geographic location... it varies... but you can see it in your download window.
21:45:18 <Guest71635> First of all I am located in Utah, USA. I have been trying to download the "Standard Suite"
21:45:34 <JohnTHaller> which download mirror are you getting?
21:46:59 <Guest71635> superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net
21:49:16 <JohnTHaller> Try this instead: http://superb-east.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/portableapps/PortableApps.com_Suite_Setup_1.5.2_en.exe
21:49:33 <Guest71635> okay
21:50:38 <JohnTHaller> superb-west seems to be having problems today
21:53:24 <Guest71635> Sorry, same error.
21:53:40 <gluxon> Just dl the lite. Then install the apps manually.
21:53:57 <jnw222> link shown works for me
21:54:31 <Guest71635> okay. Thank you.
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21:55:57 <jnw222> superb-west and east work for me (live in north georgia
21:57:59 <jnw222> making apps can be challenging at times
21:59:00 <JohnTHaller> yeah, something was wrong with Guest's connection
22:07:43 <jnw222>
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22:15:46 <markomlm> bye :-)
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22:15:56 <ZachThibeau> hey Scriptdaemon long time
22:16:15 <Scriptdaemon> Hey. Yeah, ben busy getting ready to transfer.
22:16:18 <Scriptdaemon> been*
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22:16:47 <ZachThibeau> yeah I kind of know what that feels like but mine was computer related
22:16:49 <ZachThibeau> hard drive failure etc
22:17:02 <ZachThibeau> finally got a new one after a month though :D
22:17:08 <ZachThibeau> so I need to play catch up on all my apps
22:17:08 <Scriptdaemon> Were you able to save what was on it?
22:17:14 <ZachThibeau> nothing
22:17:17 <Scriptdaemon> :(
22:17:19 <ZachThibeau> all of it corrupted
22:17:46 <ZachThibeau> good thing I do save stuff to my server every now and then though so I've been slowly rebuilding from scratch
22:17:58 <Scriptdaemon> That's good.
22:18:05 <ZachThibeau> gone full linux :)
22:18:16 <gluxon> YAY!
22:18:17 <ZachThibeau> running windows via vm though so I can still develop :)
22:18:23 <gluxon> Oh...
22:18:26 <Scriptdaemon> lol
22:18:27 <gluxon> BOO!
22:18:34 <Scriptdaemon> How else is he gonna make PA apps?
22:18:36 <Scriptdaemon> =P
22:18:37 <gluxon> WINE!
22:18:39 <ZachThibeau> :P
22:18:41 <Scriptdaemon> lol
22:18:47 <ZachThibeau> wine is good but not that good
22:18:49 <Scriptdaemon> That's not 100% the same.
22:18:54 <ZachThibeau> still needs a lot of work
22:18:58 <gluxon> It's sad how all I say is "YAY!, Oh... BOO! WINE!
22:19:16 <ZachThibeau> yeah you WINE all the time ;)
22:19:31 <Scriptdaemon> I downloaded Desktops from sysinternals, so I'll probably idle a lot.
22:19:51 <Scriptdaemon> Since I can just have it sit on another desktop while I'm on Windows.
22:20:33 <jnw222> WINE is awesome
22:20:40 <jnw222> use it all the time
22:25:04 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm, that's no good.
22:25:05 <Scriptdaemon> Brb.
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22:27:57 <jnw222> (suprised that nobody has made a flightgear portable yet)
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22:37:54 <ZachThibeau> we do packages based on popularity and not many users asked for it
22:38:12 <ZachThibeau> popularity and functionality (for most of the apps anyways :P)
22:41:23 <jnw222> i was thinking of doing it myself
22:41:26 <jnw222> (big app)
22:46:11 <jnw222> i have never made an app before but i am going to try
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