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00:16:58 <jeffs> when i install/run the platform i get a virus alert. trojan-horse. anyone know what's up
00:17:10 <Bensawsome> jeffs your using nroton right?
00:17:14 <jeffs> yes
00:17:16 <Bensawsome> *norton
00:17:27 <Bensawsome> *sigh* we have been getting many false positives from them lately
00:17:42 <Bensawsome> it is a false postivie
00:17:43 <jeffs> so, i should just ignore it?
00:17:46 <Bensawsome> .def nortonfalsepositive
00:17:47 <pabot> Bensawsome: nortonfalsepositive is here: https://submit.symantec.com/false_positive/index.html
00:17:54 <Bensawsome> go their and report it
00:18:02 <Bensawsome> it will make them solve it quicker
00:18:14 <jeffs> ok, will do. thanks.
00:18:19 <Bensawsome> no prob :)
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01:56:48 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
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03:17:22 <HypnoToad> ohai.
03:19:38 <dbdii407> Hey.
03:19:42 <dbdii407> Need anything?
03:21:12 <HypnoToad> Not particularly.
03:21:35 <HypnoToad> oh thats right, its Taffin.
03:21:55 <dbdii407> Oh okay. I was about to snoozy my way over to the bed behind me.
03:22:45 <HypnoToad> ah well, goodnight then.
03:22:54 <HypnoToad> brb.
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05:52:05 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
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06:19:25 <pabot> upnPAD wants official releases of Code::Blocks, Inkscape, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
06:20:18 <ChrisMorgan> Hey upnPAD
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06:22:04 <pa_8522> help!
06:22:33 <ChrisMorgan> what's your problem, pa_8522?
06:23:54 <ChrisMorgan> pa_8522?
06:24:25 <pa_8522> i want to know the vol. of read/write cycles of a portable app compared to its regular counterpart eg. vlc, openoffice.
06:25:00 <pa_8522> which would weigh in more, such that it would take a bigger toll on the drive, and hence decreasing its life?
06:25:25 <ChrisMorgan> The portable launchers sometimes have to move files back and forwards, but most don't. The effect of the launcher is very small indeed.
06:26:20 <ChrisMorgan> And even on the effect of the applications on the life-time of the disks is, while comparatively large, still unlikely to cause failures: it has been said (and I agree) that the vast majority of USB disks get lost before they die.
06:27:28 <ChrisMorgan> Doesa that answer your question?
06:30:18 <pa_8522> assuming that i'm going to use a portable app in place of its regular counterpart on a HDD, would it be lighter on drive life and resources eg. RAM or would it be better to just stick with the regular if it might not have as many read/write cycles as the portable?
06:31:24 <ChrisMorgan> If you want to know the nitty-gritty of it, you can take a look at the source code for the launchers, in each app's directory, Other\Source\AppNamePortable.nsi.
06:31:41 <ChrisMorgan> The portable versions will have a few more write-cycles normally, but with the advantage of portability.
06:32:07 <ChrisMorgan> In an ordinary application, the difference will be negligible (i.e. a fraction of a percent)
06:35:19 <pa_8522> ok. thanks for your answers. it does sort out a few of my questions.
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07:09:47 <safe> I remember seeing a link to an article from PortableApps awhile back, something about how to be Portable safely.. scanning the drive before plugging back into the home network and such
07:10:01 <safe> can someone direct me to it?
07:10:56 <safe> I was specifically looking for tips on stopping a usb drive from loading anything, before I had a chance to scan it
07:12:37 <ChrisMorgan> About the only way you can do things like that is disabling autorun on removable drives.
07:13:19 <safe> umm.. sure, :) now where would I go about looking for that?
07:13:54 <safe> is that in... man, I don't even have a guess..
07:13:55 <ChrisMorgan> Search the internet for something like "disable autorun usb"
07:14:06 <safe> ahh, ok
07:14:08 <safe> thanks
07:14:13 <safe> have a nice night
07:14:28 <ChrisMorgan> It's only 5:17pm here :D
07:14:36 <safe> that makes me feel better, thought you just had that off the top of your head
07:14:43 <safe> nice
07:14:54 <safe> thanks again
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07:15:08 <ChrisMorgan> I did :P
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07:17:03 <ChrisMorgan> Hello o5ax! Can we help you?
07:18:16 <o5ax> Im install FileZilla portable on drive D:\ and can't starrt it
07:18:53 <o5ax> error message: http://s53.radikal.ru/i141/0906/c1/e54712f1a8b3.png
07:19:27 <ChrisMorgan> Looking...
07:19:41 <ChrisMorgan> Try installing it again.
07:19:53 <ChrisMorgan> Everything worked fine in installation?
07:20:10 <o5ax> already
07:21:05 <o5ax> i try install FileZilla_3.2.5_win32-setup on drive D:\ there is the same problem
07:21:06 <ChrisMorgan> I'm just investigating it now.
07:21:38 <ChrisMorgan> Was it FileZillaPortable_3.2.4.1.paf.exe which you tried first?
07:21:46 <o5ax> when install to defoult dir (C:\Program Files\FileZilla FTP Client\) everithing is all right
07:22:02 <o5ax> FileZilla_Portable_3.2.3.paf.exe
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07:22:22 <ChrisMorgan> That's not the latest, could you try getting the latest?
07:22:26 <ChrisMorgan> Gone... :/
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07:23:50 <o5ax> oops
07:24:04 <o5ax> sorry, i click the link
07:24:15 <o5ax> repeat last messages please
07:24:43 <ChrisMorgan> Download the latest version from http://portableapps.com/filezillaportable
07:25:04 <ChrisMorgan> Is there something special about your D drive? Weird permissions or something?
07:25:05 <o5ax> ok. one second..
07:25:28 <ChrisMorgan> You could also try installing FileZilla Portable to your C drive and copying it across?
07:28:51 <o5ax> last version have the same problem
07:29:09 <o5ax> from drive C its OK. from В not
07:29:13 <o5ax> *D
07:29:32 <o5ax> oh
07:29:55 <o5ax> in root of D:\ it's OK
07:30:16 <o5ax> ftrom D:\$bin\$Net\FileZilla\ not work
07:30:27 <o5ax> hmm..
07:30:35 <ChrisMorgan> Filenames beginning with $ symbols are reserved, I believe.
07:30:42 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not surprised it doesn't work.
07:30:46 <ChrisMorgan> It /shouldn't/ work.
07:30:51 <o5ax> )=
07:31:22 <ChrisMorgan> It's reserved for filesystem things, e.g. D:\$MFT
07:32:17 <o5ax> hm... FileZilla - first aplication with problem with this
07:32:38 <o5ax> all other wirk well
07:32:46 <o5ax> *work
07:32:47 <ChrisMorgan> That's probably because most don't store their settings in that location.
07:33:09 <o5ax> no it's not (=
07:33:29 <ChrisMorgan> Actually it's probably not reserved, just used, and FileZilla doesn't like $ in the filename.
07:33:52 <ChrisMorgan> Whatever the reason, it's a good idea to steer clear of symbols like $ in folder names.
07:34:12 <o5ax> Im store there all aps which not needed to install. They store their settings in that location
07:35:07 <ChrisMorgan> Well I'd recommend that you change the folder names from $bin and $Net.
07:36:00 <o5ax> it is not good idea. to many aps use it.
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07:52:31 <MaienM> hello ChrisMorgan
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10:10:57 <ChrisMorgan> HypnoToad: /must/ you stay being HypnoToad?
10:11:17 <HypnoToad> eh?
10:11:46 <ChrisMorgan> Why can't you choose some other nick, say for example TaffinFoxcroft?
10:12:46 <HypnoToad> why not HypnoToad?
10:13:37 <HypnoToad> btw, have you tested Rainlendar Portable yet? =P
10:14:24 <ChrisMorgan> No, don't think I will at the moment.
10:15:01 <HypnoToad> Aww, why not?
10:16:00 <ChrisMorgan> Too busy web developing :D
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13:13:40 <pa_5535> HI, SOME HELP PLS?
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13:16:43 <pa_3258> hi all.
13:17:00 <pa_3258> i just installed portable apps platform on my windows xp system. how to uninstall it.
13:17:21 <pa_3258> help
13:17:44 <pa_5535> u can just delete the file
13:18:38 <pa_3258> but it says that those files are in use
13:19:05 <pa_5535> so.. you are using something from the suite..
13:19:17 <pa_5535> u should close it first
13:19:38 <pa_3258> no i am not using anything
13:19:58 <pa_3258> i tried EXIT command from system tray.
13:20:10 <pa_3258> even then the application is not getting closed from my tray
13:20:27 <pa_3258> :/
13:21:10 <pa_5535> u see the icon of the suite on the system tray?
13:21:54 <pa_3258> ya i can still see the icon on the tray
13:22:12 <pa_3258> i tried cntrl+alt+del and ended the application. even then its running.
13:22:17 <pa_5535> by right click on it?
13:22:24 <pa_5535> oh..
13:22:26 <pa_3258> may be.. shall i try a restart of my system
13:22:27 <pa_3258> ?
13:22:39 <pa_3258> ya right click on the system tray and option "exit"
13:22:46 <pa_3258> eject did not work.
13:23:14 <pa_5535> u know.. i came in here for help so..
13:23:25 <pa_5535> i shouldn't get involved more..
13:23:51 <pa_5535> ANYONE???
13:27:35 <pa_3258> ok tel me your problem
13:27:44 <pa_3258> if possible i will try guiding you.
13:27:52 <pa_3258> even im new to portable apps..
13:28:05 <pa_3258> just saw the port apps listing on source forge and thought of testing it.
13:29:43 <pa_5535> tx but need to question about a port app..
13:33:02 <pa_5535> they usually respond...anyway.. good luck to u
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14:14:22 <MaienM> oh wow, pa users helping each other.... what a wonderful world ;)
14:14:32 <MaienM> pa_3258: do you still need help with anything?
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17:30:50 <Gizmokid2005> I know
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18:28:30 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
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