IRC Log from 2009-06-24

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00:00:20 <dabomb69> Good thing thaw one no werked
00:00:36 <dabomb69> ZachThibeau: Ecli
00:00:58 <ZachThibeau> I"m sorry but I agree with siler, get a keyboard lol
00:01:03 <SergentSiler> :D
00:01:10 <SergentSiler> dabomb69, bluetooth keyboard tiem
00:01:32 <ZachThibeau> or something that would make you intelligible at the very least
00:01:45 <SergentSiler> lol
00:01:53 <dabomb69> I beef atykys
00:02:09 <ZachThibeau> xD
00:02:33 <SergentSiler> XDDDDD
00:03:03 <dabomb69> Ah this is a littlenbegtwr
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00:03:12 <SergentSiler> or not :P
00:03:16 <ZachThibeau> xD
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00:06:18 <Guest25712> Battery dies
00:06:20 <Guest25712> Crap
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00:08:16 <dabomb69> Yay
00:08:24 <dabomb69> Epic win
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00:10:15 <ZachThibeau> epic fail he means ;)
00:10:36 <SergentSiler> lol
00:10:49 <JohnTHaller> epic mail
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00:10:59 <SergentSiler> XD
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00:11:06 <JohnTHaller> (an email message with a 1GB attachment)
00:11:14 <ZachThibeau> O_O
00:11:16 <ZachThibeau> wow
00:11:18 <SergentSiler> lol
00:11:20 <JohnTHaller> kidding
00:11:24 <SergentSiler> XD
00:11:29 <JohnTHaller> biggest I ever got was like 50MB I think
00:14:30 <ZachThibeau> most spam I ever got was about over 3000
00:14:41 <ZachThibeau> only because I failed to check it over a week xD
00:14:57 * SergentSiler has gotten 3000 in like 4 days in gmail :P
00:15:10 <SergentSiler> you should see it when i dont check for a month
00:15:30 <ZachThibeau> well I don't have the address anymore I started afresh and now I get no spam
00:17:24 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: mind clearing this up http://portableapps.com/node/19709
00:25:30 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: hmm... i could go either way on that.
00:26:06 <JohnTHaller> I'd be happier if it was the Dev Test splash or something. (Know which splash it is?)
00:26:43 <ZachThibeau> no not really
00:26:55 <ZachThibeau> I'm not a fan of alpha releases
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03:04:30 <dabomb69> palogbot: Has been idle longer than he's been connected
03:04:59 <Oni-Neoxes> dabomb69: Wait... WHAT?
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03:07:18 <Guest87513> Oni-Neoxes: My client shows that palogbot has been online 1 minute less than it's Been idle...
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07:22:16 <pa_0218> help
07:23:26 <pa_0218> the link to the suites is broken
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07:29:56 <GizmoBot> sar3th says hello to everyone!
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07:51:39 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is annoyed that GizmoBot has to announce him - RMCCUE! WHERE'S PABOT?
07:51:39 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is annoyed that GizmoBot has to announce him - RMCCUE! WHERE'S PABOT?
07:52:07 <MaienM> hello ChrisMorgan
07:52:11 <ChrisMorgan> hey MaienM :-)
07:52:20 * ChrisMorgan is typing this on his new laptop :-)
07:52:28 <MaienM> :)
07:52:39 <MaienM> so, what setup did you decide to go with?
07:52:50 <ChrisMorgan> For what?
07:53:02 <MaienM> like, dual boot vista/ubuntu, etc
07:53:13 <ChrisMorgan> ah. I haven't got to that yet.
07:54:07 <ChrisMorgan> currently just uninstalling lots of stuff... Office 07 (trial), PDF Complete (trial), norton (trial), SQL Server 2005 (Express Edition), etc...
07:54:39 <ChrisMorgan> The battery of this laptop isn't very good at all (lasted for under half an hour, starting at 76%) but that's not unexpected in a 25 month old system.
07:54:46 <MaienM> stupid default stuff :(
07:54:53 <MaienM> same for my lappy
07:54:56 <sar3th> ChrisMorgan: so you have vista?
07:54:57 <sar3th> :S
07:55:14 <MaienM> I need to turn the backlight down all the way to even get half a hour :(
07:55:29 <ChrisMorgan> Doncha love it... drive by installation of Microsoft .NET Framework Assistant 1.0 in FFPE... even though it's incompatible (3.5 RC1) :/
07:55:45 <ChrisMorgan> I may well get another battery for it.
07:56:10 <ChrisMorgan> That'll be another $67 (eBay, from China) - $88 (Australian store) or so
07:56:23 <MaienM> I won't do that for mine just yet as I might get a new one soon.... and it isn't even really mine, but loaned from a friend
07:56:44 <ChrisMorgan> I discovered that the CPU is the same model as Dad's MacBook Pro... T7300.
07:57:00 <ChrisMorgan> And one thing was actually *different* specs to the advertisement... :-)
07:57:04 <ChrisMorgan> * :-(
07:57:12 <ChrisMorgan> Hit the wrong key... :/
07:57:37 <MaienM> hehe, that happened to me too yesterday, P instead of )
07:57:41 <MaienM> 4 times in a row -
07:58:34 <ChrisMorgan> :|
07:58:55 <ChrisMorgan> Do you want to know what the difference is?
07:59:04 <MaienM> do I? ;)
07:59:09 <ChrisMorgan> It's got 2GB of RAM instead of the advertised 1GB xD (first time I've used that smiley, discovered that ChatZilla supports it :P)
07:59:30 <MaienM> nice :)
08:00:52 <ChrisMorgan> So I don't think I'll bother forking out another $30 for a couple of GB of notebook RAM :-)
08:01:34 <MaienM> what is it with l33t sp34k... ehm, leet speak I mean ;) why are people making addons for it for all kinds of stuff, while it just is.... well, pretty much retarded :S
08:01:49 <ChrisMorgan> Well, I think I'm just about ready to close down Firefox Portable ... possibly for the last time in a looong while ... and restart
08:02:45 <ChrisMorgan> "An error occurred while trying to uninstall LiveUpdate 3.2 (Symantec Corporation). It has already been uninstalled."
08:03:32 <ChrisMorgan> OK, think I've uninstalled enough for the moment :-)
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08:04:09 <ChrisMorgan> bye, may be back soon, probably not though as we're having tea ("dinner" for foreigners) soon
08:05:19 <ChrisMorgan> I've decided to stick with Vista Business rather than going to XP Pro (which I could have done)
08:06:11 <ChrisMorgan> Glad I didn't go for a netbook :-)
08:06:55 <ChrisMorgan> Price similar ($630 including postage rather than ~$580), but performance, usability, etc. much better :-)
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10:52:47 * rook2pawn discovered portableGIT for windows ^_^
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11:46:17 <Horusofoz> Hi guys
11:46:54 <Horusofoz> Can anyone recommend an open source or freeware cd/dvd burning program?
11:47:11 <sar3th> depends on what you want to burn ;)
11:47:23 <Horusofoz> Basically everything
11:47:28 <sar3th> cd-images, like iso?
11:47:35 <sar3th> or more files and folders?
11:47:38 <Horusofoz> I'm wanting to uninstall Nero 8 Ultimate and looking for a sub
11:47:58 <Horusofoz> An equivalent?
11:48:07 <sar3th> then you should take a look at deepburner free
11:48:45 <sar3th> Horusofoz: another one (i haven't tested it yet) http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/infrarecorder_portable
11:49:00 <sar3th> looks neat
11:49:05 <Horusofoz> I have InfraRecorder :D
11:49:11 <sar3th> win :D
11:49:34 <Horusofoz> Anyone tried CDBurnerXP?
11:54:00 <Horusofoz> CDBurnerXP requires .NET :-(
12:01:24 <Horusofoz> Anyone tried Starburn??
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12:26:21 <dbdii407> Ohhh! He can def himself. Haha. :)
12:26:45 <Gizmokid2005> lol, hello dbdii407
12:26:58 <dbdii407> Gizmokid2005: Hey. Morning. :)
12:27:14 <Gizmokid2005> that it most certainly is.
12:29:07 <sar3th> lol no, it's 14:33 here :P
12:29:19 <Gizmokid2005> .t edt
12:29:19 <GizmoBot> Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:33:30 EDT
12:29:29 <Gizmokid2005> it's mornin' for sure :)
12:29:36 <dbdii407> sar3th: Eh. You missed the meeting. :(
12:29:40 <Gizmokid2005> and soon, it's time for free coffee and donuts :)
12:29:46 <Gizmokid2005> though I don't drink coffee
12:31:05 <sar3th> dbdii407: i could/can not connect to scrapirc atm :(
12:31:19 <sar3th> it didn't work yesterday, same for today
12:31:24 <sar3th> maybe a nameserver issue
12:31:29 <dbdii407> sar3th: Eh. Np. It wasn't anything important. :)
12:31:40 <sar3th> k :)
12:33:56 <Gizmokid2005> Time to update KVIrc, and it's installer :)
12:34:02 <Gizmokid2005> oh, and NSIS probably.
12:35:04 <sar3th> time to work D:
12:35:17 <Gizmokid2005> :(
12:35:23 <sar3th> movie editing
12:35:31 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, fun stuff /sarcasm
12:36:14 <sar3th> yep, that's right..it's fun, as long as you can simply click colour key..but not if you have a person wearing a black coat in front of a dark green background :D
12:36:17 <sar3th> *D:
12:37:15 <Gizmokid2005> lol yeah, that's a problem
12:39:05 <sar3th> i'm rather reshaping the person than removing the background
12:39:39 <Gizmokid2005> definitely easier
12:39:43 <Gizmokid2005> what app are you using?
12:39:54 <sar3th> let's move this to -ot
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14:15:57 <jnw222> hi
14:18:23 <sar3th> hello jnw222
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14:26:11 <Feuerteufelchen> hi
14:27:42 <sar3th> hello Feuerteufelchen
14:28:07 <Feuerteufelchen> hey sar3th
14:36:35 * Feuerteufelchen has a problem with TB
14:36:37 <Feuerteufelchen> help!
14:36:48 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Feuerteufelchen: what's your problem?
14:36:56 <Feuerteufelchen> I'm using V 2.2.20
14:37:13 <Feuerteufelchen> the folder becomes bigger and bigger
14:37:19 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Feuerteufelchen: it will
14:37:31 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> you have to compact the folders
14:37:31 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> from File > Compact Folders
14:37:32 <Feuerteufelchen> in the end it doesn't fit anymore with the size of my stick
14:38:20 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Feuerteufelchen: that's how thunderbird works, you have to compact the folders like I said.
14:38:21 <Feuerteufelchen> I deleted all mails
14:38:30 <Feuerteufelchen> but the size is still about 1,7 GB
14:38:57 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> Feuerteufelchen: Go to File > Compact Folders
14:39:00 <Feuerteufelchen> compacting does not give more than some MB so me
14:39:45 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> then you have something else taking up space, because compacting folders via the menus will compact all folders down to the correct size, if you did that and it doesn't help, you have something else taking up space besides your mail folders.
14:40:17 <Feuerteufelchen> ok thanks, I'll check this next
14:40:19 <Feuerteufelchen> thanks
14:40:34 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> you're welcome Feuerteufelchen
14:41:07 <Feuerteufelchen> ok, by the way, there is another problem
14:41:24 <Feuerteufelchen> is it possible to merge 2 TBs?
14:41:56 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> you mean to merge two installations of Thunderbird - the profiles (mail, news, etc?)
14:42:11 <Feuerteufelchen> yes
14:42:22 <Feuerteufelchen> but actually there's the same profile
14:42:34 <Feuerteufelchen> I just want so merge the mails
14:42:50 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> as far as I know there isn't, each profile is separate, you can check with Mozilla's help, as that would pertain to the local version of thunderbird also, but I am not aware of a way to do that
14:42:55 <Feuerteufelchen> beacause when it became to big I startet a new stick
14:43:12 <Feuerteufelchen> ah, ok
14:43:31 <Feuerteufelchen> is it possible to import single mails?
14:43:53 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> again, I'm not sure, but I do not believe so
14:44:03 <Feuerteufelchen> just by saving them to .eml from the first stick an importing them with the second one?
14:44:29 <Feuerteufelchen> ok, I'll have a look in the FAQ und Help-files
14:44:35 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> you can try that, but I'm not sure
14:44:40 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> the FAQ/mozilla is the place to look for that
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14:52:46 <sar3th> :-D LOL :-D
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15:28:01 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> UPDATED: KVIrc 4 r3263 DT5 - http://portableapps.com/node/18626
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15:47:25 <ZachThibeau> MaienM: ;) http://portableapps.com/node/19722
15:47:30 <ZachThibeau> your first issue :P
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15:54:36 <MaienM> yay :P
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15:54:41 <JohnTHaller> hola
15:54:55 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
15:54:58 <MaienM> ZachThibeau: answered it, does my answer look right/understandable? :P
15:55:00 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
15:55:25 <ZachThibeau> looks allright from here
15:56:24 <JohnTHaller> How goes it?
15:57:02 <ZachThibeau> not much just playing some halo :)
15:57:42 <ZachThibeau> which it seems the desktop versions are having some memory issues with my laptop for an unkown reason :/
15:58:36 <ZachThibeau> bah I never really play halo that often I usually play the custom edition of it more :)
16:08:52 <JohnTHaller> MaienM: You notice you got a couple thousand downloads of The Mana World Portable already?
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16:31:58 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: last time I checked it was 1300 or so, haven't been able to look at the stats today tho
16:33:57 <JohnTHaller> 1876 when I last cghcked
16:36:27 <MaienM> 1891 now, they finally work again :)
16:37:58 <MaienM> didn't expect it to get that many downloads
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17:12:56 <andreasma> hi
17:13:06 <JacobMastel> Hola
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17:17:12 <andreasma> howdy JohnTHaller
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17:20:50 <JohnTHaller> hi andreasma
17:21:17 <JohnTHaller> I'm going to be posting Java Portable today as well as OpenOffice.org Portable 3.1. I'm actually working on an update to the installer for Java Portable now :-)
17:21:46 <andreasma> that's great news :-)
17:22:28 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. It works as expected, installer pulls down the current Java and installs locally. And it works with OO.o without any changes.
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17:26:50 <andreasma> If you put it online, can you sent me a link?
17:27:31 <JohnTHaller> sure, email the same?
17:30:16 <andreasma> you can sent it to my OOo-Mailadress andreasma@ooo
17:30:42 <JohnTHaller> Alrighty. Will do :-)
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17:58:55 <JohnTHaller> andreasma: Wanna test Java Portable quickly before I release it?
18:01:19 <JohnTHaller> Anybody wanna test it?
18:01:20 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, hmm. I'm little bit in a hurry. I'm flying to Berlin in some hours.
18:01:32 <JohnTHaller> Ok, no problem.
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18:02:22 <SteveLamerton> Hello everyone, long time no see!
18:02:29 <JohnTHaller> hi SteveLamerton
18:02:35 <JohnTHaller> wanna test Java Portable before it's released?
18:02:55 <SteveLamerton> Hi JohnTHaller, and sure :)
18:02:58 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: sure, if you can give me some clues on how/what to test it with
18:03:25 <SteveLamerton> Hi MaienM
18:03:32 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
18:04:13 <JohnTHaller> Basically, it installs into an existing PortableApps.com install (which should be at X:\PortableApps). It's a small download (500k) that will download and install the current Java runtime from Sun onto your drive in X:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java. Apps like OpenOffice.org Portable will then automatically use it.
18:04:37 <MaienM> sounds nice :)
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18:04:43 <SteveLamerton> Looks like the site has been busy during the past few weeks while I have been wrestling with exams, I have three free months now, so expect lots of Toucan work!
18:04:57 <MaienM> SteveLamerton: :D
18:05:03 <SteveLamerton> And yep, I will give that a go, how recent a copy of OOP will I need?
18:05:14 <MaienM> any heads up on a possible linux version for toucan? :P
18:06:17 <SteveLamerton> MaienM: Sure, I have set my development environment again in VirtualBox and I hope to get to work on it as soon as I put out a 2.1.1 release to fix a few little bugs
18:06:32 <MaienM> :D
18:06:34 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/Java_Portable_6_Update_14_INTERNALTEST.paf.exe
18:07:11 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: sorry, seems I have to skip this round of testing since VirtualBox refuses to run :(
18:11:04 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Should it work with the latest openoffice prerelease?
18:14:01 <JohnTHaller> yes
18:16:54 <SteveLamerton> Just installing openoffice :)
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18:22:08 <SteveLamerton> Well it all installed very neatly!
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18:23:11 <SteveLamerton> Hmmm, sorry about that
18:23:44 <SteveLamerton> But yes, the java installer is very neat!
18:24:40 <JohnTHaller> Working right with OO.o?
18:24:51 <SteveLamerton> Just checking :)
18:25:56 <SteveLamerton> What is the best way to check, are the wizards still java?
18:26:01 <JohnTHaller> yea
18:26:45 <SteveLamerton> They arent working :(
18:27:12 <JohnTHaller> You sure it installed to X:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java and that OO.o is at X:\PortableApps\OpenOfficePortable?
18:28:13 <SteveLamerton> All of the files are there, yes
18:28:55 <JohnTHaller> So in that Java directory you have a bin directory with java.exe and javaw.exe?
18:29:56 <SteveLamerton> Yes, openoffice says "Open Office requires a JRE .... The selected JRE is defective"
18:30:17 <JohnTHaller> Odd
18:31:02 <SteveLamerton> And when I go to Tools -> Options -> Java it isnt on the list there, this is using the pre-release openoffice in the forum, should I check the current stable one too?
18:32:30 <JohnTHaller> check stable too please
18:32:46 <SteveLamerton> Sure, I shall just go download it
18:33:13 <JohnTHaller> I'm trying it too
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18:42:20 <SteveLamerton> Nope, same problem again, I am trying the java installer again
18:44:01 <SteveLamerton> Hmmm, the installer fails if you have previously installed a copy it seems, extraction error and you cant close it ;
18:44:03 <SteveLamerton> ;)
18:46:26 <SteveLamerton> Hmmm, the installer worked the time after, I think it was because I had openoffice open, so it looks like it is trying to do something with the folder, but I still get the JRE error in openoffice
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18:48:20 <JohnTHaller> hang on... seems there is an error in OO.o launcher... correcting...
18:48:26 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh ok :)
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18:59:29 <dbdii407> Wt?
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19:11:23 <JohnTHaller> Ok, looks like it's a portablizer issue... uploading a new one...
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19:19:01 <Scriptdaemon> Hey John, I have an idea/suggestion. Like it seems you're doing with Java, why not have a separate install for GTK so all GTK apps can look for it rather than all of them having their own installation of GTK?
19:20:02 <JohnTHaller> GTK is awful between apps. Each app needs its own version and special build. Nearly all Windows GTK apps ship with their own special GTK.
19:21:36 <Scriptdaemon> I figured that was the case, but I wanted to ask just in case.
19:22:05 <JohnTHaller> We originally planned on doing that. But then GIMP and others abandoned shared GTK when it needed different versions than Pidgin.
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19:27:47 <PatrickPatience> Why is The Mana World not released? It's just 'The Mana World Portable 0.0.29.1 Rev 2'?
19:28:03 <PatrickPatience> Oh.
19:28:08 <PatrickPatience> That's how we roll now?
19:28:14 <JohnTHaller> Um, huh?
19:28:29 <PatrickPatience> Allow me to collect my thoughts.
19:29:05 <PatrickPatience> Okay, I was right. There's no 'Released' in the story title.
19:29:06 <PatrickPatience> http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-22_-_the_mana_world_portable_0.0.29.1
19:29:09 <JohnTHaller> Ok, sorted the issue with the Java Portable installer. It was its fault (not OO.o launcher). Uploading a new one now...
19:29:30 <JohnTHaller> you sure? reload it to make sure
19:29:49 <SrgSiler|AFK> "The Mana World Portable 0.0.29.1 Rev 2 Released"
19:29:58 <SrgSiler|AFK> first thing i see :/
19:30:01 <JohnTHaller> (I just changed it... to mess with PatrickPatience) :-)
19:30:11 <SrgSiler|AFK> lol
19:30:16 <JohnTHaller> I inadvertently left it off the original title
19:30:52 <JohnTHaller> Ok... Java Portable installer for testing with OO.o Portable 3.0.1 or 3.1 PR (13.4MB): http://portableapps.com/temp/Java_Portable_6_Update_14_INTERNALTEST.paf.exe
19:31:38 <PatrickPatience> CAPITALSAREINTIMIDATING
19:32:14 <jnw222> na
19:32:18 <MaienM> I'm pretty sure The Mana World is indeed released PatrickPatience :P
19:32:35 <JohnTHaller> SteveLamerton: wanna give that new one a try>?
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19:33:01 <PatrickPatience> MaienM: Imma hit you. (raises hand(
19:33:06 <PatrickPatience> Asterisks, even.
19:33:22 <Scriptdaemon> So this will be required for all Java-based apps now?
19:33:28 <tylor22> is it just me or do the forums look different?
19:33:32 <jnw222> sure is a pain to upload a 205 mb file to the internet on a internet connection that gets 28 kib/s
19:33:34 * MaienM turns PatrickPatience the other cheek
19:33:42 <MaienM> your hit failed, please try again :P
19:33:43 <Scriptdaemon> Just you.
19:33:53 <jnw222> just you
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19:33:55 <JohnTHaller> guys, please stop playing
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19:34:12 <JohnTHaller> Waiting for folks to verify that the updated Java Portable installer works on other systems.
19:34:19 <MaienM> sorry JohnTHaller, *runs of to -ot*
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19:34:52 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, so this will be required for all Java-based apps now?
19:34:57 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Sure :)
19:35:54 <JohnTHaller> Scriptdaemon: We have no officially released Java apps other than OO.o. And you needed to use the old Java Portablizer (which copied a local Java in) for that to work with the Java-based stuff.
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19:36:08 <PatrickPatience> Oh nice, The Mana World music files are only 19 megs.
19:36:11 <JohnTHaller> But yes, all Java apps have to support the portable java
19:36:29 <Scriptdaemon> Well I meant via future.
19:36:32 <Scriptdaemon> But thanks.
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19:36:59 <Scriptdaemon> Still installing...
19:37:04 <ZachThibeau> howdy Scriptdaemon :P
19:37:06 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, this will let all our Java apps that we do be able to work evenon PCs without a local Java
19:37:14 <Scriptdaemon> 'Ello ZachThibeau
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19:37:48 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: I finally got that update for DVDStyler done as you may of saw already :P
19:37:52 <Tylor22> @JohnTHaller: do you have a Skype name?
19:37:57 <Scriptdaemon> I saw you mention a Blender release tomorrow. Will you do this with Python too?
19:38:38 <Scriptdaemon> ZachThibeau, I had hopes that posting that would actually make something happen. Keepass and DVDStyler. :)
19:39:01 <ZachThibeau> well Scriptdaemon 1.7.2 was in pre-release for a little while :P
19:39:08 <ZachThibeau> just wasn't a full release yet
19:39:15 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Nope, doesnt seem to work this time either
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19:39:25 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, I added next to the names whether it's a pre-release, etc.
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19:39:52 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton creator or PUSS that later became Toucan :D
19:40:01 <Scriptdaemon> I'm an organization freak and the development test pages, well, sucks.
19:40:06 <Scriptdaemon> page*
19:40:09 <JohnTHaller> tylor22: I don't usually give it out, what do you need? We can private message on here.
19:40:19 <andreasma> bye
19:40:19 <JohnTHaller> SteveLamerton: Did you delete your old version?
19:40:22 <SteveLamerton> Hello ZachThibeau, I am back, had my last exam today, back to programming tomorrow
19:40:23 <JohnTHaller> by andreasma
19:40:35 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Installed over the top, I will clear it and try again :)
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19:40:53 <tylor22> Hey Mr Haller, I need to talk to you about some school stuff and dont want to waste support chat space.
19:41:41 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, I saw you mention a Blender release tomorrow. Will you do this with Python eventually too?
19:41:48 <tylor22> do other people see HTML code where thre chat is? I keep getting signed out to.
19:42:14 <Scriptdaemon> Done installing. Testiing oo.o now.
19:42:18 <Scriptdaemon> Testing*
19:42:53 <JohnTHaller> html code is not permitted in irc
19:43:07 <JohnTHaller> tylor22: I just private messaged you. there should be a new tab at the top of the chat window
19:43:36 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Still not working I am afraid
19:43:45 <JohnTHaller> can you manually select it in OO.o?
19:45:40 <SteveLamerton> Whatever I try I get 'The folder you selected doesnt contain a java runtime environment' Can anyone else test?
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19:46:09 <JohnTHaller> did you download the new one? it's a 13.4MB download
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19:46:41 <SteveLamerton> I think the link you gave is wrong ;)
19:47:52 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/Java_Portable_6_Update_14_INTERNALTEST2.paf.exe
19:47:56 <JohnTHaller> try that
19:48:11 <SteveLamerton> Thats better, the right size now ;)
19:48:19 <JohnTHaller> Ok, cool.
19:48:24 <JohnTHaller> Hopfeully this'll work
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19:52:03 <JohnTHaller> get it SteveLamerton?
19:52:15 <SteveLamerton> Yep, it works great now :)
19:52:26 <SteveLamerton> Just trying a few wizards, seems good though :)
19:52:33 <JohnTHaller> works out of the box? did you try it with both 3.0.1 and 3.1? oh and what OS are you on?
19:53:45 <SteveLamerton> Yes, it did its downloading thing and then worked fine, works with 3.0.1, I shall try 3.1 in a minute, and this is on Vista
19:54:24 <MaienM> I'm downloading oo to test with wine
19:54:34 <JohnTHaller> cool thanks MaienM
19:55:26 <MaienM> what stuff do I have to open in oo to test?
19:55:40 <JohnTHaller> just run a wizard once java is installed
19:55:47 <JohnTHaller> dunno if it works under wine or not
19:56:30 <MaienM> we'll find out soon enough
19:57:42 <SteveLamerton> 3.1 works fine too :)
20:00:00 <JohnTHaller> cool
20:00:05 <JohnTHaller> I'm testing Windows 2000 now
20:00:09 <Oni-Neoxes> JohnTHaller: lol
20:00:50 <JohnTHaller> Everything we do works on Windows 2000 to Windows 7 now.
20:01:07 <JohnTHaller> And there are quite a few Win2K boxes floating around still in corporate world
20:01:09 <SteveLamerton> Got to go all now I am afraid, talk soon
20:01:21 <JohnTHaller> ok, thanks again SteveLamerton
20:01:29 <JohnTHaller> oh and let's get a toucan update out soon...
20:01:36 <JohnTHaller> i don't think it's win7 compliant yet... or is it?
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20:02:02 <SteveLamerton> No problem, bye JohnTHaller, all, and yes, now exams are over I am hoping to get an update by the end of the week / beginning of next, and I cant remember ;)
20:02:22 <JohnTHaller> i'll check (i have a spreadsheet of it all)
20:02:35 <SteveLamerton> Ahh ok, anyway must dash, bye all
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20:05:36 <JohnTHaller> yup, working on Win2K. so it looks like Java Portable is good to go.
20:05:48 <MaienM> installing oo atm
20:06:20 <JohnTHaller> alright. i'll wait and we'll see how wine is. i'm really curious
20:07:42 <Oni-Neoxes> http://lifehacker.com/5302200/menuapp-is-a-tiny-portable-application-launcher-menu
20:07:48 <Oni-Neoxes> looks kind of cool
20:09:28 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: is having java installed already a problem for the tests?
20:09:50 <Havvy> TimClark been around much?
20:09:56 <jnw222> (trying to find a place that will let me host a single 205 mb file and allow hotlinking)
20:09:57 <JohnTHaller> java portable you mean? Yeah at the moment.
20:10:11 <MaienM> no, I mean a local install of java
20:11:24 <JohnTHaller> oh no
20:11:47 <MaienM> alright, installing java portable now :)
20:12:21 <MaienM> Havvy: not really, I haven't seen him in the channel since mibbit got blocked from freenode
20:12:52 <Havvy> :( That sucks.
20:13:27 <MaienM> JohnTHaller: how big is java portable when installed? (aprox)
20:13:37 <MaienM> oh, nvm, its completed already ;)
20:14:02 <JohnTHaller> the installer actually lists the accurate final install size
20:14:52 <MaienM> alright, oo just crashed when I clicked on the "help" menu :(
20:15:29 <JohnTHaller> heh, guess it doesn't work in wine
20:16:02 <MaienM> lemme see if it works without java portable ;)
20:16:40 <PatrickPatience> Whoooa. The Mana World configuration section is horribly skewed.
20:17:00 <JohnTHaller> PatrickPatience: huh?
20:17:18 <MaienM> nope, crashes too.... guess you don't need to worry about java portable on wine JohnTHaller, since the only app using it isn't usable on wine anyway ;)
20:17:46 <PatrickPatience> I ran The Mana World Portable, and the first screen presented shows like a bunch of messed up input fields and such.
20:17:55 <PatrickPatience> It's Windows 7, but I don't see why /that/ would change anything.
20:17:57 <JohnTHaller> where did you install to?
20:18:05 <JohnTHaller> well, win7 does break some apps
20:18:14 <PatrickPatience> It's a local drive, in the PA directory structure.
20:19:43 <MaienM> PatrickPatience: could you give us a screenshot maybe?
20:19:46 <jnw222> java portable installer doens't work in WINE
20:19:57 <MaienM> it does for me jnw222
20:23:37 <JohnTHaller> PatrickPatience: Confirmed, Mana World doesn't work on Windows 7
20:24:19 <PatrickPatience> *swings arm*
20:24:28 <PatrickPatience> The current installer fixes that install error thing, right?
20:24:40 <PatrickPatience> I didn't seem to have an issue since the installer package was released.
20:25:06 <JohnTHaller> the current installer works in win7. all launchers are being updated with each new release. it's the app itself that doesn't work in win7
20:25:59 <PatrickPatience> Yep yep. What was Windows 7 thinging when it complained about how the app was installed?
20:26:27 <JohnTHaller> they changed the way installers are again after changing them in vista, breaking all our installers and all our launchers
20:26:58 <PatrickPatience> Oh tisk tisk.
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20:28:25 <PatrickPatience> JohnTHaller: Ever decide on a new Sudoku app?
20:28:32 <PatrickPatience> http://gottcode.org/simsu/
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20:31:09 <JohnTHaller> Not yet, no.
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20:32:16 <JohnTHaller> Unfortunately, it's Qt, so it's 14MB
20:32:47 <PatrickPatience> Mmm. :-/
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20:35:21 <JohnTHaller> Vote for PortableApps.com in the Community Choice Awards: http://sf.net/community/cca09/vote/?f=495
20:35:55 <JohnTHaller> PatrickPatience: Hmm... AppCompactor gets it to 9MB at least
20:36:32 <PatrickPatience> Nice.
20:37:13 <JohnTHaller> and still works ok
20:37:16 <jnw222> what is wrong with current sudoku app
20:37:34 <JohnTHaller> it doesn't quite work right on the more difficult settings
20:37:38 <jnw222> ok
20:37:53 <jnw222> and it has a very simple launcher
20:38:02 <jnw222> use it alot as a base
20:41:33 <PatrickPatience> And it built on some ugly sketch homebrew library. :-D
20:41:39 <PatrickPatience> *it's
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20:42:05 <PatrickPatience> Then again, so is BonkEnc. The lack of system interactivity is upsetting sometimes.
20:42:26 <JohnTHaller> I like Simsu. I think once we have our generic launcher done, we'll do some of those games.
20:43:38 <PatrickPatience> He has some cool stuff on that site.
20:43:47 <PatrickPatience> The tetris one is very primitive, but good times.
20:44:42 <PatrickPatience> Is it standard for the down key to make a tetris piece go straight to the bottom, or is it just supposed to speed up its downward motion?
20:46:32 <dabomb69> Motion
20:46:33 <PatrickPatience> This is so sad. I'm playing this: http://www.imeem.com/kiblaze/music/qtw8Wfbh/2-pm-tetris-song/ while playing his Tetris game.
20:46:43 <PatrickPatience> dabomb69: As I thought. His goes straight down, I don't like it.
20:47:07 <dabomb69> Ya, doesn't sound nice
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20:53:36 <PatrickPatience> .seen LOGAN
20:53:36 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen logan around.
20:53:41 <PatrickPatience> Oh, it's you.
20:53:49 <PatrickPatience> Has he been around recently?
20:56:02 <Bensawsome> prbly not since GizmoBot came in ;)
20:56:04 <Bensawsome> lol
20:56:11 <PatrickPatience> Har har. Have you seen him?
20:56:13 <Bensawsome> i think that was 2 or 3 days ago so....
20:56:25 <Bensawsome> no sorry :/ he doesnt seem to come on that much
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21:22:20 <powerjuce> aight i offically luv
21:22:24 <powerjuce> nux
21:22:26 <powerjuce> bix*
21:22:29 <powerjuce> ix*
21:22:33 <powerjuce> nix*
21:22:37 <powerjuce> got it rite!!
21:25:42 <dabomb68> *nix
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21:37:35 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: why do you live *nix systems :P
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21:39:24 <powerjuce> they are the best
21:39:43 <powerjuce> i got a windows xp at work
21:39:54 <powerjuce> i added ubuntu onto it
21:40:12 <ZachThibeau> lol
21:40:16 <powerjuce> now i am always on ubuntu
21:40:30 * ZachThibeau is compiling a custom haloce map :3
21:40:43 <powerjuce> it is so great...i am usually given the curropted hard drives to pull info off of it
21:41:17 <ZachThibeau> maybe I should make a game that reads haloce maps and call it the openhalo project :D
21:41:59 <ZachThibeau> yeah powerjuce I love *nix too that I successfully ported 3 *nix programs I love to windows via MinGW :D
21:42:09 <ZachThibeau> my XChat Fork, gedit, and leafpad
21:42:55 <powerjuce> nice
21:43:14 <ZachThibeau> leafpad I think has it's first windows debut because of me (since google made no record of a port)
21:43:23 <ZachThibeau> gedit and xchat already done though
21:43:25 <powerjuce> hahah sweet
21:46:06 <ZachThibeau> I'll probably keep that one to myself though since in looks it's a very basic notepad clone :P
21:46:17 <ZachThibeau> probably people won't go for that
21:46:56 <powerjuce> lol i am looking for a way to only have a commandline nix
21:47:26 <ZachThibeau> go with ubuntu server edition then :P
21:47:27 <powerjuce> prob using ubuntu server
21:47:30 <powerjuce> wow
21:47:38 <ZachThibeau> lol minds think a like
21:48:54 <powerjuce> btw do u use freenas?
21:49:16 <ZachThibeau> noop
21:49:19 <ZachThibeau> **nope
21:49:26 <powerjuce> *sigh* apparently no one does
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22:03:14 <vossia> does anyone have a link that works to download the suite
22:03:38 <Oni-Neoxes> vossia: hold on
22:03:40 <Oni-Neoxes> let me check
22:04:44 <Oni-Neoxes> vossia: Which Suite, Suite Lite of Suite Standard
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22:27:49 <vossia> sorry about that i was looking for the standard
22:33:37 <vossia> does anyone have a good link to the standard suite
22:34:56 <vossia> help!
22:36:15 <dbdii407> Is should be on there.
22:36:56 <vossia> the link is broken
22:38:25 <dbdii407> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=portableapps&filename=PortableApps.com_Suite_Setup_1.5.2_en.exe#
22:38:29 <dbdii407> That link is broken?
22:39:14 <vossia> the page is unavailable
22:39:42 <dbdii407> Works for me.
22:40:47 <vossia> whatcould be causing the problem
22:40:52 <dbdii407> go to sourceforge.net and tell me if you see the site
22:43:01 <jnw222> http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/portableapps/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_1.5.2.exe
22:43:09 <jnw222> direct link
22:43:24 <jnw222> works in north georgia
22:43:41 <vossia> trying to get there
22:44:01 <jnw222> what browser are you using
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22:44:17 <jnw222> i have problems with sourceforge under ie7
22:44:34 <vossia> ie and google chrome
22:44:46 <jnw222> u use chrome. cool
22:45:09 <dbdii407> It might be your ISP's fault.
22:45:10 <vossia> do i need to sign in
22:45:17 <dbdii407> vossia: You still cannot access it?
22:45:33 <vossia> i have and it still does not work
22:46:46 <jnw222> i am going to mirror it
22:47:06 <dbdii407> jnw222: I was going to do that, but it's to much for me at the moment. :x
22:47:45 <vossia> i got it but the page didn't load
22:48:19 <jnw222> give me a minute
22:48:23 <dbdii407> So sourceforge.net itself itsn't loading
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22:49:24 <vossia> nope
22:49:39 <jnw222> try this http://www.mediafire.com/?g1ude1jpgzg
22:51:01 <jnw222> that is for platform only
22:51:03 <jnw222> :-(
22:51:23 <jnw222> will have to add everything manually
22:52:01 <vossia> ok thanks
22:52:12 <jnw222> standard too big
22:52:35 <jnw222> for my isp upload speed (25 KiB/s)
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22:56:16 <jnw222> if only i could find a free place that will let me host a 205 mb file
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23:20:20 <Havvy> Question: Would you let another bot into this channel, one that acts as a bridge between this channel and say, one on Mibbit;
23:24:06 <PatrickPatience> Do elaborate... how its workings, that is.
23:26:52 <Havvy> Basically, there is a bot that connects to both servers, and says what people say in other server in the other.
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23:32:57 <Havvy> #startups has such a bridge-bot.
23:38:23 <Bensawsome> lol
23:38:31 <Bensawsome> wow... people are getting creative -_-
23:39:33 <Bensawsome> wonder how long its gonna take those to get klined/not allowed anymore :/
23:42:56 <Havvy> It's allowable says Freenode staff.
23:43:13 <Havvy> It operates just as a normal channel bot would.
23:43:17 <dbdii407> People on #freenode just don't get it..
23:43:46 <Bensawsome> Havvy we will see how long it is "allowable" :/
23:43:53 <Havvy> tomaw liked the idea.
23:44:21 <Bensawsome> Havvy is there a link to something which allows you to run these?
23:44:30 <Bensawsome> i'd like to see how it works and test one out
23:44:40 <Havvy> Not sure if there is;
23:44:54 <Bensawsome> so wait
23:44:58 <Bensawsome> this is just a bnc
23:45:01 <Bensawsome> thats all :/
23:45:16 <Havvy> Connecting two channels on different servers.
23:45:45 <Bensawsome> well it work similiar to a bnc >_>
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