IRC Log from 2009-06-26
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00:05:01 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is annoyed that GizmoBot has to announce him - RMCCUE! WHERE'S PABOT?
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00:14:34 <Bensawsome> jnw222 ITS IPoD TOUCH do they call the nano an inano? or iclassic? NO THEY DONT =_=
00:14:50 <SergentSiler> lol
00:15:11 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: I think you are a little late on that one
00:15:20 <Bensawsome> lol
00:15:23 <Bensawsome> i know :P
00:15:32 <Bensawsome> omg michael jackson died :D
00:15:32 <Bensawsome> lol
00:15:44 <ZachThibeau> wow you are late in getting news
00:15:48 <SergentSiler> XD
00:16:00 <Bensawsome> lol
00:16:05 <Bensawsome> i dont care
00:16:08 <Bensawsome> he is dead :D
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00:17:20 <daBomb69> LOL
00:18:23 <jnw222> Ben, actually where i go to school, it is inano and ishuffle, etc
00:18:33 <SergentSiler> >>:/
00:18:37 <SergentSiler> we must fix this
00:18:47 <daBomb69> WTF...
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00:51:19 <jnw222> bye
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01:24:25 <Suiseiseki> test
01:25:26 <daBomb69> </test>
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01:54:49 <ZachThibeau> lol KevinPorter http://twitpic.com/8f4ng/full
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02:12:55 <Gizmokid2005> dabomb: we discussed this nick previously...it is currently muted. Please change it.
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02:13:11 <SergentSiler> heh
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02:13:31 <Gizmokid2005> thank you daBomb69
02:15:02 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005: Sorry
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02:34:06 <Gizmokid2005> daNom69: please PLEASE turn off autojoin until you get a stable connection.
02:34:47 <dbdii407> Gizmokid2005: He does it on my server also. SergentSiler had to kline him. Lol
02:34:58 <daNom69> It was stable... Then it stopped being stable
02:35:34 <daNom69> dbdii407: Thats not a thing to LOL about...
02:35:54 <Gizmokid2005> dabossbv: in the last 2 hours, you have join/parted 11 times.
02:36:01 <dbdii407> Haha!
02:36:08 * dbdii407 falls on the floor dying
02:36:31 <daNom69> Gizmokid2005: Wrong nick?
02:36:41 <Gizmokid2005> yeah...
02:36:46 <Gizmokid2005> daNom69: that was directed at you
02:36:50 <Gizmokid2005> dabossbv: sorry about that.
02:36:55 <daNom69> Yes I know
02:37:25 <daNom69> Gizmokid2005: Is that counting it as a join/part set?
02:37:32 <Gizmokid2005> yes.
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02:39:28 * dbdii407 dies laughing again
02:39:34 <SergentSiler> :P
02:40:04 <Random_Nick> Make that 12
02:40:07 <Gizmokid2005> Random_Nick: make that 12..
02:40:18 <Random_Nick> Wait...
02:40:24 <Random_Nick> DUCK!!
02:41:17 <Random_Nick> Gizmokid2005: I said that already :p
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02:51:51 <JohnTHaller> hola
02:52:03 <SergentSiler> ello JohnTHaller
02:52:31 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
02:52:46 <Bensawsome> why hello thar john :)
02:54:36 * JohnTHaller is uploading OpenOffice.org Portable 3.1.
02:55:24 <Gizmokid2005> :)
02:55:36 * Gizmokid2005 is fighting with XP home :( it's not taking the keys I have :(
02:56:02 <JohnTHaller> 11 languages totally 1GB
02:56:10 <Gizmokid2005> wow.
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04:11:49 <ZachThibeau> night you peeps
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05:34:03 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: OpenOffice.org Portable 3.1 in 11 languages: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-26_-_openoffice.org_portable_3.1
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05:36:14 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is annoyed that GizmoBot has to announce him - RMCCUE! WHERE'S PABOT?
05:57:41 <ChrisMorgan> Why is the Java Portable installer 14MB if it doesn't include the JRE?
05:59:08 <ChrisMorgan> InstallOptions.dll... 14848 bytes uncompressed!?
05:59:19 <ChrisMorgan> Packed to just under 14MB...
05:59:28 <ChrisMorgan> What on earth is IO doing being that big!?
08:13:34 * ChrisMorgan just installed Ubuntu with Wubi... so simple :D
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09:56:58 <purple> need help :\
09:57:51 <purple> im using MP3Tag from PA.com, is there any way to disable 'Development Release' splash screen?
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11:16:47 <purple> so?
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11:55:50 <purple> ...
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12:36:23 <Mike> Hi
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12:38:22 <[Mike]> I wante to ask. Is Java Portable for to run software who needs java or for to create software with java
12:39:11 <HypnoToad> Java portable is the java runtime, not the SDK.
12:39:36 <[Mike]> You mean JRE?
12:40:10 <HypnoToad> Yes, the Java Runtime Environment is the java runtime, which is what Java portable is.
12:40:46 <[Mike]> Really. AWESOME
12:41:16 <[Mike]> Thank you thank you thank you thank you so freakin much
12:41:34 <HypnoToad> Thats what the support channel is for =D
12:41:43 <[Mike]> I am so freakin happy to here this
12:43:05 <[Mike]> AWESOME. Thanks so freakin much.
12:43:10 <[Mike]> Bye
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13:38:48 <SergentSiler> ello steve :)
13:38:58 <SteveLamerton> Hello SergentSiler
13:40:36 <SteveLamerton> All quiet?
13:41:02 <HypnoToad> except for 3.
13:43:17 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
13:43:28 <SteveLamerton> Hello MaienM
13:43:30 <HypnoToad> ..make that four.
13:43:34 <SergentSiler> lol
13:44:34 <HypnoToad> so what does everyone think of java portable finally being released?
13:44:59 <SteveLamerton> Good job, I am intirigued to see why it is so big though!
13:51:07 * Bensawsome is here too
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13:51:23 * jnw222 /me says hi
13:51:30 <Bensawsome> and SteveLamerton its jre... what did you expect? it was gonna be 1/10th the size?
13:51:32 <Bensawsome> lol
13:51:42 <jnw222> java is complex
13:51:48 <Bensawsome> exactly
13:52:19 <MaienM> yes, but the installer itself is 14 MB, while it doesn't contain JRE
13:52:20 <Bensawsome> and i highly doubt john is able to compress it...
13:52:42 <Bensawsome> lol....
13:52:46 <Bensawsome> nice....
13:53:10 <Bensawsome> well maybe it contains various things which they needed to change to portablize it correctly?
13:53:20 * Bensawsome is just guessing
13:58:19 * Bensawsome thinks john got the download link for oo.op wrong >_>
13:58:31 <Oni-Neoxes> <.<
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14:14:07 <HypnoToad> .pa
14:14:17 <HypnoToad> oh wait, wrong bot.
14:14:52 <Bensawsome> lol
14:15:10 <Bensawsome> HypnoToad: .g site:portableapps.com search terms here
14:15:17 <HypnoToad> meh
14:15:29 <HypnoToad> .g site:portableapps.com Rainlendar legacy portable
14:15:30 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad: http://portableapps.com/node/19611
14:15:32 <HypnoToad> .title
14:15:34 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad: Rainlendar Legacy (0.22.1) Portable Development Test 1 | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
14:16:19 <Bensawsome> HypnoToad thats all that .pa does anyways :/
14:16:48 <HypnoToad> ah, but its technically easier to use .pa
14:17:03 <Bensawsome> lol not when pabot isnt here :P
14:17:21 * HypnoToad didn't think of that.
14:17:26 <Bensawsome> lol
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14:21:12 <purple> im using MP3Tag from PA.com, is there any way to disable 'Development Release' splash screen?
14:21:42 <HypnoToad> methinks so
14:21:55 <HypnoToad> Suiseiseki: DESU!
14:21:56 <Bensawsome> dude search this has been askedm any times -_-
14:21:58 <Bensawsome> lol
14:22:37 <HypnoToad> try using Other\Source\mp3tagportable.ini
14:22:52 <Bensawsome> exactly
14:23:16 <purple> i deleted it :\
14:23:32 <HypnoToad> woo, effort!
14:23:39 * HypnoToad applauds purple
14:23:41 <Bensawsome> why?
14:23:58 <purple> idk, i always delete other and source folder
14:24:11 <jnw222> *****
14:24:19 <Bensawsome> smart -_-
14:24:27 <Bensawsome> well then oyu need to reinstall ;)
14:24:33 <jnw222> THEY DON'T TAKE MUCH SPACE AND ARE USEFUL
14:24:36 <purple> getting it atm
14:24:40 <jnw222> WHY DID YOU DELETE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14:24:42 <Bensawsome> and not delete those folders :P
14:24:43 <Bensawsome> lol
14:24:45 <Bensawsome> yep
14:24:49 <HypnoToad> CALM DOWN jnw222
14:24:53 <Bensawsome> and no yelling jnw222
14:25:00 <HypnoToad> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR THE COOL
14:25:02 <HypnoToad> =P
14:25:03 * jnw222 ends flame
14:25:08 * Bensawsome stabs flame
14:25:12 <Bensawsome> lol internet
14:25:17 * HypnoToad hypnotises flame
14:25:25 <Oni-Neoxes> HypnoToad: Now you just need to steer
14:25:27 * Bensawsome has teh ipod touch ^_^_^_^_^_^_^
14:25:35 <Oni-Neoxes> Bensawsome: bout time XD
14:25:44 <Bensawsome> Oni-Neoxes i got it yesterday :P
14:26:20 <purple> ok works now, thanks :)
14:27:12 <HypnoToad> has anyone been testing Rainlendar portable?
14:30:15 <Oni-Neoxes> rainlander?
14:30:23 <Oni-Neoxes> rainlender*
14:31:16 <HypnoToad> rainlendar is a calendar program
14:31:36 <purple> ok than, thnx for help, bai
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14:32:37 <HypnoToad> I wonder how many people would care if I released rainmeter portable?
14:33:55 <jnw222> be nice
14:34:02 <MaienM> at least one would, you ;)
14:34:55 <Oni-Neoxes> looks nice
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14:36:27 <HypnoToad> wb SergentSiler
14:36:31 <SergentSiler> ty
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14:55:25 <SergentSiler> jnw222, again, dont please
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15:18:58 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome HAS RECIEVED HIS IPOD TOUCH TODAY! WOOOOOOOOO
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15:21:10 <SteveLamerton> Hello again all
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15:31:00 <ZachThibeau> howdt SteveLamerton
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15:40:13 <ZachThibeau> back :D
15:40:29 <dabomb69> Yay?
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15:45:25 <SteveLamerton> Hey ZachThibeau
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15:47:01 <JohnTHaller> Hola
15:47:06 <dbdii407> JohnTHaller: Hey.
15:47:24 <SteveLamerton> Hello JohnTHaller
15:47:54 <JohnTHaller> how goes it in here
15:48:09 <SteveLamerton> All quiet
15:48:36 <dbdii407> Well. I'm tired. Feel like falling on the floor. But besides that, awesome
15:49:23 <dabomb69> Hi JohnTHaller
15:49:35 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
15:49:58 <ZachThibeau> dbdii407: have you tested out PChat on a windows computer?
15:50:08 <dbdii407> Oh!!!
15:50:09 <SteveLamerton> Doesnt work ;)
15:50:12 * dbdii407 will brb
15:50:20 <dbdii407> ZachThibeau: Gracias amigo
15:50:27 <Bensawsome> hey ZachThibeau fix the ssl yet? :D
15:50:28 <ZachThibeau> np :)
15:50:32 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: yes :P
15:50:38 <Bensawsome> :DDDDDDDDDDDDD
15:50:42 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau, it doesnt work ;)
15:50:48 * Bensawsome wonders where todl
15:50:49 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: what os?
15:50:52 <SteveLamerton> Vista
15:50:58 <Bensawsome> EVIL!
15:51:00 <ZachThibeau> works for me :/
15:51:04 <ZachThibeau> and I'm on Vista SP2
15:51:07 <SteveLamerton> Bensawsome, shut up
15:51:08 <ZachThibeau> 32bit
15:51:17 <Bensawsome> no :P its evil :P
15:51:56 <SteveLamerton> I get "The ordinal 4046 could not be located in the dynamic link library LIBEAY32.dll."
15:51:57 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: shut up
15:52:20 <ZachThibeau> ahh SteveLamerton I guess you didn't see the comment I made for that post about that
15:52:25 <Bensawsome> no :P its evil :P
15:52:27 <Bensawsome> lol
15:52:39 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: I'm not laughing shut up
15:52:42 <SteveLamerton> Clearly not, Bensawsome once more and I will kick you, I am in a bad mood ;)
15:52:58 <Bensawsome> lol ok :P
15:53:05 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: http://zachthibeau.com//viewtopic.php?p=10#p10 this addresses that :P
15:53:27 <ZachThibeau> just drop it in the bin folder and launch it
15:53:39 <ZachThibeau> it comes from my openssl library folder for mingw
15:53:44 <ZachThibeau> so it's safe
15:53:47 <SteveLamerton> Thanks Zach :)
15:54:00 <ZachThibeau> np :)
15:54:02 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau so i can just dl the one there to try it?
15:54:08 <Bensawsome> (with ssl of course)
15:55:01 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: http://zachthibeau.com//viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7&start=0&sid=60e5c4060b90dc0044e7347985ce7d84
15:55:03 <Bensawsome> oh win! my macbook pro arrived :D
15:55:07 <Bensawsome> and ty ZachThibeau
15:55:49 <ZachThibeau> np
15:57:26 * Bensawsome goes to lunch >_>
16:00:40 <ZachThibeau> well JohnTHaller if everything isn't too bad with PChat I think I can say it would be ready for public testing at PortableApps.com as a beta package Dev test, what do you think?
16:02:19 <JohnTHaller> go for it
16:03:07 <ZachThibeau> ok then :), I'm submitting my request for a project page on sf.net with svn and will upload my source there and start on the Dev Test asap
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16:03:31 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller, ZachThibeau, long time SteveLamerton
16:03:43 <SteveLamerton> Hello Gizmokid2005
16:03:59 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: howdy Micheal
16:04:22 <ZachThibeau> everything above eye level?
16:04:26 <Gizmokid2005> yup
16:04:38 <JohnTHaller> hi
16:05:10 <dbdii407> ZachThibeau: I need the link to that dll
16:05:24 <ZachThibeau> dbdii407: http://zachthibeau.com//viewtopic.php?p=10#p10
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16:06:28 <SteveLamerton> And yes, too long Gizmokid2005, I will be about much more now, exams are over for now :)
16:06:46 <Gizmokid2005> good to hear :)
16:08:41 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: you still have the pidgin debug source stored don't you?
16:08:45 <Gizmokid2005> like on dropfile or something?
16:09:01 <SteveLamerton> I think so
16:09:36 <SteveLamerton> Here it is, and the end: http://drop.io/toucanlang
16:09:47 <Gizmokid2005> thanks SteveLamerton :) I just couldn't remember the location
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16:10:10 <pa_4697> anyone there?
16:11:08 <pa_4697> hi, i have a few questions on PortableApps concept
16:11:31 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4697: ask away
16:11:50 <pa_4697> ok, is there a royalty associated with it?
16:12:50 <Gizmokid2005> no
16:13:48 <pa_4697> if my app requires to use a device, such as a smart card reader, will my portableapps app be able to have access to the PC's usb interfaces and drivers?
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16:14:49 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4697: what exactly do you mean?
16:15:43 <pa_4697> ok, we are developing an application right now, whch may be able to benefit from portableapps. the application uses a usb smart card reader.
16:16:00 <pa_4697> the usb smart card reader uses the microsoft's pc/sc drivers.
16:16:17 <pa_4697> will i encounter any issues from my portableapps?
16:16:53 <pa_4697> because the documentation on portableapps states that it is an OS. so, will it have access to the host PC's devices?
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16:19:54 <JohnTHaller> pa_4697: PortableApps.com is not an OS. It allows you to use applications portably with the OS on the PC.
16:21:40 <pa_4697> so what is installed on the actual flash drive when u run the portableapps installer?
16:21:52 <Bensawsome> just the application
16:22:15 <Bensawsome> or rather the application with a launcher which makes the original app portable
16:23:24 <pa_4697> http://www.ultraedit.com/products/mobility.html
16:23:31 <pa_4697> if u can access this page
16:23:59 <pa_4697> and scroll down to section titled "Mobile UE/UC portableapps"
16:24:03 <Bensawsome> that isnt our portableapps
16:24:12 <pa_4697> it states it's an OS. so i guess i was mistaking
16:24:15 <Bensawsome> oh lol
16:24:23 <Bensawsome> my bad i was looking in the wrong tab
16:24:52 <Bensawsome> where does it say its an os?
16:25:11 <pa_4697> PortableApps is the innovative, open-source, free USB-drive operating system platform that is available for any user with a simple USB flash drive! Simply install the PortableApps software on your USB flash drive and you're ready to go -
16:25:23 <Bensawsome> hmmmm
16:25:33 <pa_4697> u see it?
16:25:34 <Bensawsome> ya i think they need to word that in a different way :/
16:25:42 <Bensawsome> i see what you mean now
16:25:56 <pa_4697> it's a "marketing hype" then?
16:26:13 <Bensawsome> ya must be
16:26:17 <Bensawsome> i mean not from portableapps
16:26:26 <pa_4697> right
16:26:26 <Bensawsome> but from whoever these ultraedit guys are
16:26:44 <Bensawsome> but ya :/ sorry for the confusiion
16:26:55 <pa_4697> so, is portableapps a free platform then?
16:27:11 <Bensawsome> it is free and open source but it is not an operating system
16:27:28 <Bensawsome> its just apps that run on windows :/
16:27:49 <pa_4697> ok cool
16:27:59 <Bensawsome> yes they are ^_^
16:28:14 <pa_4697> but is there anything special about the portable apps themselves? do they have to b developed in a certain way?
16:28:35 <Bensawsome> one sec
16:28:55 <Bensawsome> there is a page on the site which can help you
16:29:17 <Bensawsome> here ya go pa_4697 the links on this page will help you :) http://portableapps.com/development
16:29:55 <pa_4697> great!
16:30:00 <pa_4697> thanks a lot!
16:30:16 <Bensawsome> pa_4697 so you are developing an app that will specificaly be made for portable use?
16:31:23 <pa_4697> we are developing an app that "screams" portable use. so i may sell the idea to the customer for a next version
16:31:36 <pa_4697> it's a .Net app that uses smart cards
16:31:46 <Bensawsome> oh... .net isnt gonna work portably
16:32:08 <Bensawsome> many computers dont have .net by default so people wont be able to run them...
16:32:40 <pa_4697> understood. but this customer's computers will all have .net
16:32:44 <Bensawsome> here is a page which will show ya why pa_4697: http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful_stuff/dotnet_portable_apps/
16:32:46 <JohnTHaller> pa_4697: Unfortunately, .NET apps aren't considered 'portable' in our sense right now since a huge % of PCs don't have .NET installed. You can still use our tools and stuff, it just can't be listed on PA.c right now.
16:32:51 <pa_4697> it's for 20 users at most
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16:33:02 <Bensawsome> ah ok
16:33:15 <Bensawsome> but just wanted to tell ya that :)
16:33:15 <JohnTHaller> If you get to the point where you want to commercialize it, just drop a note to our business development contact and we can assist. It may have a wider market.
16:33:44 <pa_4697> so how does that work? u sell apps like the apple store?
16:34:13 <JohnTHaller> for now, we'll be listed apps on PA.c in exchange for a small rev share (a few %).
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16:34:52 <pa_4697> ok cool
16:35:14 <pa_4697> so the apps need to b 100% C or C++ to be considered portable?
16:35:29 <pa_4697> i suppose that page u sent me will tell me what the parameters are to b considered portable
16:36:16 <Bensawsome> i think .net is one of the only prograsmming languages that is off limits
16:36:22 <Bensawsome> am i correct JohnTHaller?
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16:39:55 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is the engaged man - who'll be the married man on 3/20/10!
16:41:16 <JohnTHaller> It's not C# or any of the .NET languages specifically. It's because the .NET runtime environment is only on Vista and higher by default. 200/XP require an admin to download up to 100MB+ of updates and reboot. So, the runtime is not portable... unlike, say, Java, which is portable.
16:41:55 <pa_4697> so the portableapps can be developed in Java then?
16:45:49 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. Because we have a portable java install that you can carry with you without it needing to be installed locally.
16:45:57 <JohnTHaller> You can't do that with .NET.
16:46:07 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition 3.5 RC 3: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-26_-_firefox_portable_3.5_rc_3
16:46:31 <pa_4697> right
16:47:25 <pa_4697> nice.
16:47:38 <pa_4697> ok, thanks for your time guys! i'm signing off.
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16:49:10 <Gizmokid2005> Thanks JohnTHaller!
16:49:12 * Gizmokid2005 installs
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16:50:50 <Gizmokid2005> hey JohnTHaller, I have a "bug report" maybe for the menu..
16:51:38 <JohnTHaller> what
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16:52:09 <Gizmokid2005> right-clicking to rename a menu item - when the rename window comes up, at least on multiple screen setup like mine, it comes up right in the middle so it's stretched across both screens.
16:53:14 <pa_0691> Hello? I just found and downloaded Portable Thunderbird. I have 2 problems. 1. I see I have to buy it but no price is mentioned anywhere. I hate those kind of sales tricks. 2. It asks for a backup folder. I said ::\tjwmail. It said invalid. That's a perfectly valid WinXP name. What gibes?
16:54:03 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: first off, where does it say you have to pay for it?? Nowhere in any of our apps is there anything that asks for money. Ever. Not to pay for it.
16:54:13 <pa_0691> "L:\tjwmail\"
16:54:18 <Gizmokid2005> there are donation links, but no app asks for you to pay for it.
16:54:56 <pa_0691> The install dialog says "buy".
16:55:16 <Gizmokid2005> where did you download it from?
16:55:47 <pa_0691> Your site portableapps.com
16:56:15 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: what is the file name that you are launching? Because none of our installers ask for money...
16:58:12 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: Yeah, that's a known issue and I have a fix.
16:59:00 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: I'm refering to the rename issue in the menu on multimonitors.
16:59:10 <JohnTHaller> pa_0691: what do you mean a "Buy" link?
16:59:23 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: ahh, k. Thanks. I was just making sure you knew, forgot to mention it last time I saw you.
17:01:06 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: can you give us a screenshot of the page that says that?
17:01:07 <pa_0691> I changed the long name to install.exe. It says Thunderbird Backup Setup from StaticBackup Inc. Version 0.0.0.0
17:01:28 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: that is not from us.
17:02:39 <pa_0691> I got that by following links your site. What is the correct link?
17:03:03 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: what link did you click on to get to that...that software is not by us.
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17:03:30 <Bensawsome> oh snap netslpit
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17:03:58 <pa_0691> I don't remember what I did yesterday. What is the correct link?
17:04:10 <Gizmokid2005> to get to thunderbird portable you need to go here: http://portableapps.com/apps
17:04:29 <Gizmokid2005> more specifically, Thunderbird Portable can be downloaded here: http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/thunderbird_portable
17:05:54 <pa_0691> Thanks. I'll do that. I Googled "Portable ThunderBird" and picked the first link.
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17:07:04 <pa_0691> How about the 2nd question? What is a valid like for the backup directiory? Why is "L:\tjwmail" invalid?
17:07:36 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: again, that was part of the application you had, it might not have been a correctly fucntioning application.
17:07:47 <pa_0691> OK.
17:07:58 <pa_0691> Thanks.
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17:24:09 <pa_0691> The other version I downloaded calls itself Static ThunderBird Backup 2.5a.
17:24:25 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: yeah, that's not from us.
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17:27:10 <SteveLamerton> Hello again a;;
17:27:18 <SteveLamerton> *all
17:27:39 <Gizmokid2005> hello again SteveLamerton :) sorry about earlier, my PC locked up and I had to force restart it.
17:27:49 <SteveLamerton> Ahhhh, no problem :)
17:27:55 <SteveLamerton> Was the file in the package?
17:28:05 <Gizmokid2005> I haven't looked yet, I was just going to DL it
17:28:43 <Gizmokid2005> nope, source.zip is actual toucan source
17:29:02 <SteveLamerton> Right, I shall go and see if I can find it!
17:29:27 <Gizmokid2005> Ok, no hurries :)
17:29:44 <Gizmokid2005> I just keep losing it somehow, and when john updates pidgin I have to make sure nothing's changed in the launcher lol
17:31:46 <JohnTHaller> pa_0691: Static Thunderbird Backup isn't in any way affiliated with us. Their site is over here: http://www.staticbackup.com/thunderbird-backup/
17:32:04 <JohnTHaller> It looks like a shareware app.
17:35:21 <SteveLamerton> Gizmokid2005, you got mail!
17:35:30 <Gizmokid2005> Thanks SteveLamerton! :D
17:36:38 <Gizmokid2005> SteveLamerton: you rock :) Now it's archived in gmail too :D
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17:39:17 <SteveLamerton> :)
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17:51:17 <SteveLamerton> Testing
17:52:05 <ZachThibeau> :D
17:52:19 <SteveLamerton> How do I open a pm in it?
17:52:37 <ZachThibeau> right click on a username and click on open dialog
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18:01:50 <ZachThibeau> brb need to restart PChat to update my build
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18:02:45 <pa_4596> help
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18:03:04 <SteveLamerton> Hi pa_4596, how can we help?
18:03:45 <pa_4596> Portable Apps changed my drive name & i can't rename it or change it in "properties"
18:04:05 <SteveLamerton> If you open up the menu you can click on the name at the bottom and change it that way
18:04:43 <pa_4596> it changed the name of a hard drive, not a thumb drive
18:05:12 <SteveLamerton> Did you open the menu for the drive that you wanted to change?
18:05:20 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: delete the autorun.inf file in the root of the drive
18:05:22 <Gizmokid2005> or rename it there.
18:06:18 <pa_4596> where is the menu for the hard drive?
18:07:13 <SteveLamerton> Sorry, I assumed you must have had multiple copies installed on different drives, Gizmokid2005's advice should help you
18:08:00 <pa_4596> any of you on Skype?
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18:08:34 <ZachThibeau> yay :D
18:08:50 <ZachThibeau> got some more custom Icons for PChat :)
18:08:54 <SteveLamerton> Support ZachThibeau
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18:15:17 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Task Coach Portable 0.73.1: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-26_-_task_coach_portable_0.73.1
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18:22:10 <pa_0691> OK. Your PT installed fine. The other PT seems to have an automatic backup feature and that was what the directory question was about.
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18:27:08 <pa_0691> I want to migrate mail from from two WinXPThunderbird installations. On GORT I have "Local Folder" and a newsgroup. What is the best way to imposrt and change the Local Folder to the actuual email occount?
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18:29:19 <SteveLamerton> pa_0691, so you want to combine two accounts?
18:33:52 <pa_0691> No, I have two accounts on GORT and three on MARVIN. I want all five on PT. Both GORT and MARVIN have one account as Local Folders, I want to rename those to the actual email address. I want five account under PT.
18:35:47 <SteveLamerton> Ahhhh I see
18:36:22 <SteveLamerton> Anyone else here have more thunderbird experiance?
18:36:47 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller, I summon you
18:37:31 <JohnTHaller> What's up?
18:38:08 <JohnTHaller> Combing accounts is tricky. You need to manually copy mail folders from one to another (they're just text files). You then need to recreate the accounts in TB itself.
18:38:19 <ZachThibeau> brb
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18:42:42 <pa_0691> I've migrated from Netscape before. I've been able to move the directory under the .slt directories into the equivalent place into Thunderbitd and the accounts were recognize nut the message filters were lost.
18:43:01 <pa_0691> Where is the equivalent place in PT?
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18:44:02 <pa_0691> I found a hlep page yesterday which says by mucking around right a .js file and changing the directory names, you can keep the filters.
18:45:02 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, the Task Coach download button still has the old version. Or am I just being impatient?
18:47:32 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: you're probably both :P impatient and very observant :P
18:47:43 <Scriptdaemon> I like to be thorough!
18:47:52 <ZachThibeau> excellent :)
18:48:14 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: that's something you want to talk to the mozilla folks, and check their help pages about, it will be the same for the local version as the portable version, just different paths.
18:48:34 <Scriptdaemon> Which is why I think I should be allowed to fix up the development test page. >.>
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18:59:39 <pa_5872> I am having trouble with Xmarks, they talk about resetting the profile. How do I do this with portable ffox?
19:01:41 <pa_5872> CTCP??? FFOX 3.01.1
19:02:03 <SteveLamerton> pa_5872, what is Xmarks?
19:02:29 <pa_5872> A bookmark synchronizer wich works with ffox and IE
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19:03:04 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0691: to reset your profile, just delete the X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\Data\profile folder
19:03:27 <SteveLamerton> But be aware in doing so you will loose *everything* such as your bookmarks
19:03:31 <Gizmokid2005> but pa_0691, that will delete EVERYTHING in your firefox profile.
19:04:51 <pa_5872> can I play with keeping certain folders to avaoid re-installing add-ons, etc?
19:06:27 <pa_5872> i.e. what is safe to keep and what has too many interactions with other items?
19:06:28 <Gizmokid2005> it's not really that simple pa_0691
19:06:43 <Gizmokid2005> you can try renaming your prefs.js file to something like prefs.js.bak
19:06:49 <Gizmokid2005> that's typically the file that will cause issues.
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19:07:23 <pa_5872> thanks!!!
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19:07:58 <SteveLamerton> Release: Toucan 2.1.1 Pre-Release 2 http://portableapps.com/node/19398
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19:08:49 <Scriptdaemon> Son of a... first time it connected this time.
19:08:49 <Scriptdaemon> lol
19:08:56 <SteveLamerton> Thanks ZachThibeau :)
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19:19:45 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: CoolPlayer+ Portable 2.19.2: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-26_-_coolplayerp_portable_2.19.2
19:19:57 <Bensawsome> oh sweet
19:20:09 <Bensawsome> i always loved hte theme that neorame made
19:20:22 <SteveLamerton> Nice one JohnTHaller, loads of releases recently!
19:20:35 <Bensawsome> its very nice ^_^
19:20:35 <Scriptdaemon> What? I missed that in the Outdated Apps thread? Fail. :(
19:20:41 <Bensawsome> lol
19:20:52 <Bensawsome> Scriptdaemon we all cant do everything ;)
19:20:54 <JohnTHaller> It's custom work by us, so it wasn;t technically outdated.
19:21:05 <Scriptdaemon> K, then I'm still good.
19:21:20 <Bensawsome> JohnTHaller what you mean custom work? coolplayer? ans in you guys added/fixed some stuff?
19:21:21 <JohnTHaller> I removed external skin loading (since it has an exploit), added the FLAC plugin, updated the launcher to support Win7 and added a multilingual installer.
19:21:32 <Bensawsome> ah ok
19:21:37 <Bensawsome> sweet
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19:21:58 <Bensawsome> my macbook pro is waiting for me at my house so ill put win7 on it and see how it goes ^_^
19:22:29 <Bensawsome> just came today ^_^_^_^ im so excited :D
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19:26:30 <Bensawsome> hello rick___ do you need help with anything?
19:27:04 <rick___> ya if you can
19:27:19 <rick___> scan disk thumb drive
19:27:46 <rick___> mounts then faily soon dies and windows looses it... hardware isn't seen
19:27:53 <Bensawsome> hmmmm
19:27:59 <Bensawsome> did you try another usb port?
19:28:08 <rick___> i unplug it and then plug it back in and it mounts then same thing
19:28:14 <rick___> ya
19:28:39 <rick___> at a library so i prolly need to find someone and reboot
19:28:54 <Bensawsome> do you eject it correctly? (as in go to the little green arrow in the system tray)
19:29:17 <Bensawsome> you shouldnt just unplug it because something may still be accessing it which could corrupt the drive
19:29:37 <Bensawsome> and also did you try it on another computer (if you have access to another one)
19:29:38 <rick___> usually... i think more often than not i hit "log out:" and let the machine shutdown
19:29:52 <Bensawsome> hmmm that should be fine
19:30:02 <rick___> figured it should be
19:30:05 <Bensawsome> cause once it shuts down the computer isnt doing anything
19:30:11 <rick___> right
19:30:12 <Bensawsome> hmmm
19:30:18 <Bensawsome> how old is the usb drive?
19:30:43 <rick___> it did complain the first time that "windows couldn't write data.... something... "
19:30:56 <rick___> or failed to write data
19:31:05 <Bensawsome> hmmm did you run chdsk on it?
19:31:14 <rick___> i think was the message... but after that it has just crashed
19:31:27 <rick___> unmounted itself rather
19:31:39 <rick___> ya i whish
19:31:58 <rick___> i'll go find a librarian who can do admin things
19:32:18 <rick___> that i guess was my question if i should run utilities on it
19:32:50 <rick___> i may have made a successful back up to the hard drive
19:32:59 <rick___> not sure
19:33:03 <rick___> said it was
19:33:45 <rick___> this has scan disks software on it too... i don't use it but have never unistalled it... is that a problem?
19:34:16 <Bensawsome> no it should be
19:34:29 <rick___> ok... thanks i'll go find a librarian...
19:34:38 <Bensawsome> and im sorry man but i gtg. just wait a bit and im sure someone else will help
19:34:57 <rick___> thats ok you were help... i got my questions answered :D
19:35:03 <rick___> :)
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19:35:12 <Bensawsome20:05:55 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: PokerTH Portable 0.7.1: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-26_-_pokerth_portable_0.7.1
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20:15:53 <markomlm> bye
20:15:58 <Gizmokid2005> bye markomlm
20:16:13 <markomlm> :-)
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20:20:09 <Scriptdemon> I apparently felt the need to test the left-click crash.
20:20:35 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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21:30:45 <dbdii407> help
21:31:37 <WastePotato> What.
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21:36:29 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
21:36:29 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
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21:38:35 <mdmonk> hiya folks
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22:02:39 <mdmonk> I have an updated TrueCrypt installer/package. where do I put it so folks can try it out?
22:03:26 <Gizmokid2005> in the beta testing forums mdmonk
22:03:47 <mdmonk> k. thanks.
22:03:55 <Gizmokid2005> yw
22:03:59 <mdmonk> that's prob written up somewhere and I overlooked it. :)
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22:25:36 <pa_0691> I'm back to my to my problem consolidating five Thunderbird accounts on two cimputers into five accounts on one Portable Thunderburd installation.
22:27:49 <JohnTHaller> Copy one of the profiles into TBP first and make sure all is well (the one with the most accounts).
22:28:09 <pa_0691> First, a simple Thunderbird question. If I go to the Local Folders account in TB Account Manager, can I change the account name from Local Folders to my email address? Will that screw things up?
22:28:13 <JohnTHaller> Then recreate the accounts manually (though the setup menus) of the other Thunderbird within Thunderbird Portable. Then copy the mail files in.
22:28:30 <JohnTHaller> No, you can't. Local folders is local folders
22:28:39 <JohnTHaller> As far as I know.
22:29:19 <JohnTHaller> My suggestion is to move one in and then recreate the accts from the other and copy the mail files in. If you want to get more advanced, you can ask over on mozillaZine.org (the semi-official TB support forums) or on mozilla.com (the official forums)
22:31:56 <pa_0691> I understand that. I done that before and lost my filters, Yesterday I found http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=25720 (Thunderbird to Thunderbird Mail Transfer Tutorial (windows) Discussion of general topics about Mozilla Thunderbird). It talks about how to preserve the other info stored in the .js file.
22:35:57 <pa_0691> John, you say " Copy one of the profiles into TBP ". Into what folder?
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22:38:44 <rbrt13> hello
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23:07:12 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Miranda IM Portable 0.8.1: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-26_-_miranda_im_portable_0.8.1
23:09:59 <JohnTHaller> alright, I'm out. gnight all
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23:34:47 <ZachThibeau> :D
23:34:48
23:34:59 <ZachThibeau> news about the cca finalist for sf.net :D
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23:40:11 <SergentSiler> ZachThibeau, :D
23:40:36 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: howdy :)
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23:41:59 <powerjuce> hey ZachThibeau
23:42:19 <ZachThibeau> I just finished working on a new build of PChat :)
23:44:48 <powerjuce> sweet
23:44:55 <powerjuce> send me a link i can test it now if u want
23:45:30 <ZachThibeau> h/o I'm trying to get an nsis installer scripted (I rock at nsis when it comes to launcher but installers I fail misserably xD)
23:45:49 <powerjuce> lol all u need in the new installer app rite?
23:46:07 <ZachThibeau> pretty much
23:46:16 <ZachThibeau> I'm working on a portable version too
23:48:47 <ZachThibeau> ok installer created :)
23:48:58 <ZachThibeau> and I'm uploading it to my sf.net project page
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23:50:03 <powerjuce> link?
23:51:33 <ZachThibeau> still uploading :P
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23:58:09 <ZachThibeau> powerjuce: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=267218&package_id=328556&release_id=692734 here you go
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