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00:37:30 <jnw222> bump
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00:42:43 <HypnoToad> yay, managed to crash firefox with greasemonkey!
00:44:00 <daBomb69> nice
00:44:10 * daBomb69 managed to crash windows with firefox!
00:44:38 <HypnoToad> ZachThibeau: did you see this? http://zachthibeau.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8#p13
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00:46:31 <ZachThibeau> HypnoToad: I already know the bug :P and I won't use xtray since it uses xchat's icon and I'm lazy to recompile it :P I rather be fixing other bugs like portability
00:46:43 <ZachThibeau> and that bug btw is in silverex's build too
00:47:19 <HypnoToad> I know its in silverex's build, but I just disabled the tray icon in it =P
00:47:24 <ZachThibeau> so it's something to do with the gtk tool kit
00:51:45 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm
00:51:49 <Gizmokid2005> where's john when you need him?
00:51:56 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/node/19799#comment-121951
00:58:34 * HypnoToad is updating firefox to 3.5
00:58:53 <Gizmokid2005> I already did, which is why john has to come around lol
00:58:58 <Gizmokid2005> so he can upload Pidgin and I can upgrade
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01:23:49 <Bensawsome> lol
01:23:57 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005 [NAG POST]
01:23:58 <Bensawsome> :P
01:24:00 <Gizmokid2005> nope
01:24:04 <Gizmokid2005> because I didn't post :D
01:24:14 <Bensawsome> you posted here :P
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01:56:58 <Mir> oh snap
01:57:10 <Mir> i think i broke my ipod
01:57:19 <Mir> i have a dancing banana on it
01:57:23 <Mir> and its singing
01:57:25 <Mir> D:
02:00:24 <Bensawsome> D:
02:00:27 <Bensawsome> lol.....
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02:23:43 <JohnTHaller> Howdy
02:23:50 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: PortableApps.com Installer 0.91.6: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-30_-_portableapps.com_installer_0.91.6
02:24:14 <daBomb69> another installer :'(
02:24:47 <JohnTHaller> Click click donw
02:24:56 <JohnTHaller> We're doing about one a week with bug fixes up to 1.0
02:25:03 <daBomb69> oh, wow
02:25:17 <JohnTHaller> Again, no changes need be made to any apps or any configs. And you don't need to re-release any test versions.
02:25:28 <daBomb69> yay :)
02:25:49 <JohnTHaller> The config has been consistent since 0.91.0 unless you wanted to add any new download features
02:25:55 <daBomb69> oh
02:25:59 <daBomb69> btw, JohnTHaller, quick question, does an app's launcher have to be the using the latest launcher code (that .ini config stuff)
02:26:15 <JohnTHaller> each launcher is kinda independent
02:26:47 <daBomb69> So, can we leave a launcher with the old NSIS stuff?
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02:27:11 <JohnTHaller> if you want, yeah
02:27:17 <daBomb69> yay :D
02:27:22 * daBomb69 high 5s JohnTHaller
02:28:08 <JohnTHaller> prob easiest to leave it as is until we start doing the generic launcher
02:29:12 <daBomb69> ya, i like that idea :) (Whats this about a generic launcher though)
02:30:01 <JohnTHaller> simple launcher that works with 98% of apps configged with an INI
02:30:19 <daBomb69> oh
02:33:45 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: good to know :) Are you going to release Pidgin?
02:40:03 <JohnTHaller> Uh, installer didn't fix one bug right... hang on...
02:41:43 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: if I may ask, what bug?
02:43:52 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-30_-_portableapps.com_installer_0.91.6
02:43:55 <Gizmokid2005> Page Not Found (404 Error)
02:44:05 <JohnTHaller> Redone as 0.91.7: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-30_-_portableapps.com_installer_0.91.7
02:44:08 <Gizmokid2005> ahh :)
02:44:35 <JohnTHaller> The CloseEXE bug which was the main reason for a new release wasn't fixed right
02:44:43 <Gizmokid2005> ahh
02:45:00 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: one of these days, when you have some spare time, I need your NSIS expertise.
02:45:31 <Gizmokid2005> I still have a minor bug with my KVIrc launcher that for whatever reason, once in a while will not copy all the files it is supposed to before launching the app...
02:45:48 <JohnTHaller> Pidgin will come in 15 mins... brb
02:46:00 <Gizmokid2005> k
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03:07:32 <pa_0120> is there a myspace im in any of the portable apps
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03:09:16 <HypnoToad> pa_0120: Pidgin should be capable of Myspace IM, MSN and more.
03:09:37 <pa_0120> thanks
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04:05:17 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
04:06:09 <HypnoToad> ohai Whibo
04:06:39 <Whibo> hai
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04:18:53 <Whibo> nessun dorma
04:19:00 <Whibo> nessun dorma
04:22:54 <HypnoToad> egg
04:26:14 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Pidgin Portable 2.5.8: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-06-30_-_pidgin_portable_2.5.8
04:26:38 <HypnoToad> wb john
04:36:14 <JohnTHaller> just stoppin in to announce it. just finished updating the updater's config for it all... more to come tomorrow... gnight all
04:36:30 <HypnoToad> night john
04:36:47 <HypnoToad> get your sleep, you need it more than we do =P
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05:42:00 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
05:48:09 <HypnoToad> ohai ChrisMorgan
05:56:33 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Taffin
05:56:34 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: On Jun 30, 2009 @ 13:19 GMT <HypnoToad> tell ChrisMorgan in your pursuit for a HTML editor, it might be worth checking out HomeSite, or its free equivalent called 1st page: http://www.evrsoft.com/1stpage2.shtml
05:56:37 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: On Jun 30, 2009 @ 13:21 GMT <HypnoToad> tell ChrisMorgan I take that back, use the 2006 edition of 1st page: http://www.evrsoft.com/1stpage3.shtml
05:56:55 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, GizmoBot can do tells now can it?
05:56:58 <HypnoToad> actually I take that back, use the first one =P
05:57:05 <HypnoToad> he could always do tells
05:57:14 <HypnoToad> .tell ChrisMorgan orly?
05:57:14 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad: As pabot is currently down, please use MemoServ instead so no .tells are missed. (/msg MemoServ help)
05:57:16 <ChrisMorgan> Since when?
05:57:20 <HypnoToad> just not in the main channel.
05:57:29 <ChrisMorgan> oh... :s
05:57:34 <HypnoToad> facepalm =P
05:59:03 <ChrisMorgan> GizmoBot: tell HypnoToad that maybe this is the way to do it?
05:59:10 <ChrisMorgan> I really don't know
05:59:16 <ChrisMorgan> HypnoToad: say something!
05:59:32 <HypnoToad> /msg GizmoBot .tell ChrisMorgan this is how.
05:59:56 <ChrisMorgan> I was just wondering if that other way worked at all...
06:00:12 <HypnoToad> Gizmo didn't fully disable it, just cripple it so that you can't issue tells in the main channel or through GizmoBot: tell
06:00:25 <ChrisMorgan> K
06:00:45 <ChrisMorgan> But unlike pabot was modified to, it still tells you where it heres you rather than in PM.
06:01:00 <HypnoToad> that wouldn't be hard to modify..
06:01:00 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad: On Jul 01, 2009 @ 06:05 GMT <ChrisMorgan> tell HypnoToad that /msg tells work!
06:04:03 <HypnoToad> but that aside, 1st page 2000 isn't a WSYIWYG editor, its actually a WYSIWYM editor.
06:04:05 <HypnoToad> .wik WYSIWYM
06:04:06 <GizmoBot> "WYSIWYM is an acronym for What You See Is What You Mean and refers to a paradigm for document editing." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYM
06:04:37 <ChrisMorgan> It's just a modification of a buzzword to make it more noisy.
06:06:27 <HypnoToad> *shrug*
06:06:36 <HypnoToad> its still a decent editor, though.
06:10:23 <ChrisMorgan> "If you plan to use Mozilla to preview web pages, you must download and install Netscape Mozilla."
06:12:50 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... I like its templates thing.
06:14:39 <ChrisMorgan> EWW! The way it creates its window... *shudder*
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06:23:10 <ChrisMorgan> I think I still prefer an ordinary text editor.
06:23:49 <ChrisMorgan> It could be worth while experimenting with it and a standard Drupal theme though, it seems to cope with PHP better than most HTML editors.
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06:57:56 <ChrisMorgan> [`Memainman]: can we help you?
06:58:17 <[`Memainman]> sorry, I was just talking to a friend here...
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09:01:40 <HypnoToad> hang on a sec, why does MaienM only have voice but ChrisMorgan has ops?
09:01:57 <MaienM> simple, I am a deverloper thus I have voice
09:02:03 <MaienM> and ChrisMorgan is a moderator, so he has ops
09:02:53 <HypnoToad> ChrisMorgan isn't a moderator
09:03:01 <HypnoToad> or at least not on the forums
09:03:25 <MaienM> he is on IRC tho :P
09:03:54 <HypnoToad> *shrug*
09:04:06 <MaienM> so you better behave!!! :P
09:26:58 <ChrisMorgan> I'm a cop :D
09:27:03 <ChrisMorgan> Channel operator.
09:27:06 <ChrisMorgan> Not a moderator.
09:27:14 <ChrisMorgan> I have come to a Decision!
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09:29:25 <ChrisMorgan> Having seen what can be done in NSIS with the latest beta of the PortableApps.com Updater, I think I'm going to start Manta with an NSIS package manager.
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10:24:42 <ezzzG> Hi, just was wondering what was happening here.
10:29:56 <ezzzG> Has anyone tried to rip files from C:/program files and turned them into portable apps. It seems some work and others don't. How can you determine if the application is suitable, other than just random testing?
10:30:47 <ezzzG> If it's not a dumb question.
10:37:54 <ezzzG> Judging by the reponse I guess it must be the wrong weather for such a question!
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11:46:29 <purple> hi, anyone into making this one portable?
11:46:29 <purple> http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=187008
11:46:39 <purple> Album Art Downloader
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11:51:56 <dbdii407> Everyone! When Zach gets on, Wish him Happy Canada Day. :D
11:52:15 <MaienM> purple: try posting it into the request forum: http://portableapps.com/forums/general/request_apps please remember to read the guidelines on posting there first, solling them will increase the chance that someone will: http://portableapps.com/node/4507
11:52:27 <MaienM> *following
11:52:30 <purple> MaienM, thanks :)
11:52:35 <MaienM> yw
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12:37:06 <purple> http://portableapps.com/node/19809
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16:16:39 <Newb4Life> Hi.
16:16:44 <Newb4Life> i have a quick question
16:16:59 <Oni-Neoxes> sure
16:17:04 <Oni-Neoxes> What seems to be the problem?
16:17:18 <Newb4Life> Did the system file layout change (specifically the ones used for the theme) with the lastest version?
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16:18:22 <Newb4Life> The 'DefaultData' folder.
16:18:35 <Oni-Neoxes> umm. I'm not really sure.
16:18:51 <Newb4Life> Its in a different location then where I was told I would find it.
16:18:53 <Newb4Life> ah ok.
16:19:01 <Oni-Neoxes> oh
16:19:21 <Oni-Neoxes> hmm
16:19:26 <Newb4Life> Thanks. : )
16:19:37 <Newb4Life> Ill be around for another 15 mins
16:19:44 <Newb4Life> Class is about to start
16:19:54 <Oni-Neoxes> k
16:20:12 <MaienM> Newb4Life: as far as I know, the system layout hasn't changed
16:21:26 <Newb4Life> hmm : /
16:22:18 <MaienM> the theming system still is under developement though
16:23:27 <Newb4Life> lol. Yeah. Looks like I'm going to have to spend some time at home on this one
16:23:29 <Newb4Life> >.<
16:23:32 <MaienM> for me, everything still is in /PortableApps/PortableApps.com/App/DefaultData/Theme/
16:23:38 <MaienM> lemme check my version though :P
16:25:32 <Newb4Life> yeah. thats the layout I have. The theme website think its under '\PortableApps\PortableAppsMenu\App\DefaultData\Themes\' but knowing me im probably supposed to sub 'PortableAppsMenu' with portableapps.com.
16:25:46 <MaienM> yeah
16:25:51 <MaienM> thats new :P
16:26:14 <MaienM> since version.... 1.2 I think, we're using PortableApps.com instead of PortableAppsMenu
16:26:23 <Newb4Life> and png files
16:26:36 <Newb4Life> ;P
16:26:52 <MaienM> that too :P
16:27:15 <Newb4Life> Guess I'll have to convert some files when I get home and hope I don't have to change any code.
16:27:16 <Newb4Life> o.O
16:28:15 <MaienM> for theming you shouldn't have to
16:28:31 <MaienM> except for the theme.ini file, but thats not really code but more configuration
16:28:45 <Newb4Life> Yeah. Still code though.
16:28:57 <Newb4Life> Just something the program reads off of.
16:28:58 <MaienM> keep in mind though that the theming system is still being worked on and is subject to changes
16:29:35 <Newb4Life> <--- Can't wait till its an extension of the program
16:30:38 <Newb4Life> well. I gotta go smoke before I hit up "Strategies for the IT Proffesional"
16:31:02 <Newb4Life> Guess what the class is
16:31:15 <Newb4Life> Nothing but Mircrosoft Office for 11 weeks
16:31:28 <Newb4Life> "strategies for the IT Proffesional"
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16:31:39 <Newb4Life> hah!
16:31:59 <Newb4Life> Thanks for the help
16:32:02 <Newb4Life> : )
16:32:21 <Newb4Life> Ill see you guys later.
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16:52:27 <andreasma> hi
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17:07:02 <JohnTHaller> hola
17:07:41 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
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17:15:59 <JohnTHaller> don't forget to digg us! http://digg.com/software/Mozilla_Firefox_Portable_3_5_Released_by_PortableApps_com
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17:30:31 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
17:32:04 <AppGuy> hello SteveLamerton
17:32:14 <SteveLamerton> Hi AppGuy
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18:51:58 <andreasma> hi JohnTHaller, FYI: http://andreasmaooo.blogger.de/
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19:03:09 <rcmaehl> anyone want to hear my laptop alarm?
19:04:58 <dbdii407> rcmaehl: I hope you didn't come here to be annoying.
19:05:12 <rcmaehl> i didn't
19:06:22 <MaienM> rcmaehl: your laptop alarm is entirely off-topic, so please move that to -ot
19:06:25 <rcmaehl> You guys should make an addon for OpenOffice that has useful addons and templates
19:06:29 <rcmaehl> k
19:07:37 <rcmaehl> what is with sourgeforge
19:08:25 <daBomb69> rcmaehl, they have that addon on the OO.o website
19:08:32 <rcmaehl> ...
19:09:07 <rcmaehl> sourgeforge is weird
19:09:14 <daBomb69> ya
19:09:21 <daBomb69> but sourceforge is still awsome
19:09:32 <daBomb69> this sourgeforge of which u speak tho...
19:09:46 <rcmaehl> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/ wheres the app installer?
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19:18:26 <rcmaehl> the portableapps installer is missing
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19:23:16 <dbdii407> ZachThibeau: You here?
19:23:23 <ZachThibeau> >_>
19:23:24 <ZachThibeau> <_<
19:23:26 <ZachThibeau> I think I am
19:23:29 <ZachThibeau> ^_^
19:23:32 <rcmaehl> ...
19:23:33 <ZachThibeau> yup :D
19:23:39 <dbdii407> Do you still have access to change irc.scrapirc.com's IP>
19:23:40 <dbdii407> ?*
19:23:45 <ZachThibeau> yes
19:23:51 <dbdii407> I need it changed. ;)
19:24:02 <rcmaehl> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/PortableApps.comInstaller_0.91.7.paf.exe <- bad link
19:24:16 <ZachThibeau> ok better pm me the ip then dbdii407
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19:27:26 <PortableGuy> Hi I have JRE softwares on my USB Flash Drive. And I did install java on my USB Flash Drive. And I was on Java Portable help website something about creating something.bat file. And I am clueless
19:27:40 <rcmaehl> the app installer is no longer on sourgeforge
19:28:00 <ZachThibeau> probably a sf.net issue
19:28:12 <rcmaehl> i didn't get a 404/403
19:28:28 <rcmaehl> i got redirected
19:28:33 <ZachThibeau> rcmaehl: sf.net doesn't use 404/403 stuff
19:28:35 <rcmaehl> to http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/
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19:31:36 <JohnTHaller> SF is having issues again
19:31:57 <JohnTHaller> ... just came back up.
19:32:29 <rcmaehl> ?
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19:33:03 <JohnTHaller> SF just came back. it had lost all files in the last month.
19:33:15 <rcmaehl> o_O
19:33:43 <daBomb69> :O
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19:33:55 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller, how'd it lose everything?
19:34:20 <rcmaehl> I still have 0.91.4
19:34:29 <rcmaehl> i want 0.91.7
19:34:31 <ZachThibeau> daBomb69: it didn't loose anything
19:34:34 <rcmaehl> >.<
19:34:47 <dbdii407> rcmaehl: Take a chill pill Mr. A. ;)
19:34:48 <ZachThibeau> rcmaehl: want all you want you'll have to wait until sf.net fixes their problem
19:34:51 <daBomb69> ZachThibeau, <JohnTHaller> SF just came back. it had lost all files in the last month.
19:35:02 <ZachThibeau> daBomb69: not our files xD
19:35:18 <daBomb69> ok then...
19:35:24 <JohnTHaller> it's a database issue. the files are there. you just couldn't download them.
19:35:39 <daBomb69> oh, ok
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20:29:42 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
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20:36:53 <AppGuy> what is going on with the discussion about Mono as an alternative to .Net?
20:37:04 <AppGuy> I know keepass works with it
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20:53:40 <JohnTHaller> too many patent issues with anything associated with .NET. Not sure we want to go near it.
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22:50:00 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller, is PA.c registered as an official group w/ Freenode?
22:50:14 <daBomb69> * #portableapps / PortableApps.com
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