IRC Log from 2009-07-07

00:02:06 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/freeware_files_five_portable_software_suites_your_usb_key-646#comment-33614
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00:13:24 <JohnTHaller> sorry back. girlfriend got home. what did I miss?
00:14:11 <JohnTHaller> Oh, is that the author responding?
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00:14:35 <ZachThibeau> back y'all :)
00:14:49 <ZachThibeau> felt good going to the movie theaters :D
00:15:03 <ZachThibeau> been nearly 10 years since I been to one xD
00:15:17 * JohnTHaller is busy posting Stellarium
00:15:27 <jnw222> lol and YAY
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00:17:11 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: yep it is
00:17:16 <Gizmokid2005> and he actually emailed me from his personal email.
00:17:30 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/d55ac6a1a
00:18:49 <daBomb69> Would it be possible to make a portable Perl?
00:18:53 <jnw222> oh
00:18:58 <jnw222> or Python
00:20:05 <daBomb69> jnw222, there's a portable python packed away somewhere in the forums...
00:20:10 <jnw222> oh
00:20:16 <daBomb69> but i'm pretty sure it's rather out of date
00:21:18 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Stellarium Portable 0.10.2: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-07-06_-_stellarium_portable_0.10.2
00:21:18 <jnw222> 2.6 Development Test 1 (2008-11-11)
00:21:19 <jnw222> http://portableapps.com/node/15756
00:21:22 <jnw222> yay
00:21:48 <daBomb69> .title
00:21:49 <GizmoBot> daBomb69: Python Portable 2.6 Development Test 1 | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
00:22:34 <daBomb69> Now, does anyone know if a portable Perl is possible?
00:22:53 <jnw222> maybe
00:22:53 <jnw222> seing
00:22:53 <jnw222> a portable python
00:23:18 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller, you know if Perl could be portablized?
00:23:43 <jnw222> at least
00:23:43 <jnw222> the command line
00:25:10 <Gizmokid2005> hey JohnTHaller, can you provide some insight for me?
00:25:32 <JohnTHaller> not sure. self-contained it may be... but what you really need is it to be used by other apps, right?
00:25:53 <Gizmokid2005> http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/d14e280cc
00:26:04 <jnw222> like java
00:26:07 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller, ya
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00:28:18 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: I didn't 'attempt' to speak to them :-P
00:28:32 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: my bad. Did you? lol
00:29:03 <JohnTHaller> Yes, we're using it under license with their approval. We've even worked with them on bugs and in terms of which languages to add support for.
00:29:35 <Gizmokid2005> anything that modifies how firefox works in the back end is considered enough of a functional change to require licensing right?
00:29:42 <Gizmokid2005> ie -what we do for data and whatnot?
00:30:28 <JohnTHaller> anything outside of redistributing their unaltered digitally-signed binary installers, which makes sense. they need to protect their trademark from people doing random stuff.
00:30:45 <JohnTHaller> so yes, what we do requires their permission, which we have.
00:30:49 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, that's what I figured. I wanted to make sure so he gets good information :)
00:30:50 <Gizmokid2005> thanks JohnTHaller
00:32:30 <JohnTHaller> sure thing
00:36:56 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/d3761ec72
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00:39:32 <JohnTHaller> don't quote me direcly on it... since it makes it sound like they are saying that
00:39:41 <Gizmokid2005> Ok, I'll clarify
00:40:31 <JohnTHaller> if you want to quote, you can quote from this: https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html
00:41:14 <Gizmokid2005> thanks JohnTHaller :)
00:42:17 <jnw222> thx
00:44:33 <JohnTHaller> ok dinnertime
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00:53:15 <jnw222> bye
00:53:26 <daBomb69> Obai jnw222
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01:20:27 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller|away: when you get back, the title of this page is messed up: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-07-06_-_stellarium_portable_0.10.2
01:20:32 <Gizmokid2005> Stellarium Portable 0.10 .2Released
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01:54:27 <hmm> wow so freenode kicked mibbit eh
01:54:36 <daBomb69> yup
01:55:03 <hmm> I guess Freenode just isn't dying fast enough for them =D
01:55:29 <daBomb69> heh :)
01:56:09 <hmm> so did Tim poop a brick?
01:56:15 <hmm> I mean he did everything on mibbit
01:56:23 <hmm> I feel bad for him
01:56:27 <daBomb69> ya...
01:57:25 <hmm> PA still plan to stay with Freenode?
01:57:48 <daBomb69> Well, i haven't heard of any predicted changes
01:59:02 <hmm> okie dokie
01:59:48 <daBomb69> course, if you stay around here till JTH gets back, you could ask him... He's the head of PA.c
02:00:02 <hmm> I know
02:00:17 * hmm knowz alllllllllllz about it =D
02:00:25 <hmm> brb
02:00:25 <Bensawsome> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
02:00:26 <daBomb69> gewd :)
02:00:27 <Bensawsome> lol
02:00:33 <daBomb69> Bensawsome, :D:D:D
02:00:48 <hmm> Bensawful sup!
02:00:57 <Bensawsome> =_=
02:01:08 <hmm> hehe
02:01:21 * Bensawsome hmm's at who hmm is
02:01:22 <Bensawsome> lol
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02:01:47 <Bensawsome> oooh
02:01:52 <Bensawsome> hey dude
02:02:03 <Bensawsome> wazzup
02:02:05 <used2Brecipro> so Freenode reallys screwed users like Tim
02:02:09 <used2Brecipro> really*
02:02:11 <used2Brecipro> not a whole lot, you?
02:02:11 <Bensawsome> yep
02:02:15 <Bensawsome> im good
02:02:23 <used2Brecipro> good to hear man
02:02:37 <used2Brecipro> ryan still comea round?
02:02:42 <Bensawsome> lol rarely
02:03:13 <Bensawsome> well i gtg do a few things before laying down for bed
02:03:15 <Bensawsome> obai
02:03:18 <used2Brecipro> take it easy man
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02:12:07 <JohnTHaller|away> fixed the page
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02:51:17 <Wolfkin> hey where can I find some help with the installer.ini file?
02:51:26 <JohnTHaller> what kind of help do you need?
02:51:47 <Wolfkin> no wait.. nevermind i didn't scroll down far enough.. i'll be back in a second
02:51:54 * Wolfkin slaps himself in the forehead.
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02:57:52 <Wolfkin> ok this time i have a real question. I'm pretty sure the apps I'm trying to format doesn't touch the registry. but how can I verify this so I know what to put in "CopyFromRegPath"
02:58:00 <Wolfkin> apps --> app
03:03:23 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Lightscreen Portable 1.0: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-07-06_-_lightscreen_portable_1.0
03:03:50 <JohnTHaller> Wolfkin: Use something like RegShot to snapshot the registry before and after the app runs on a PC that's never had the app on it before
03:04:07 <JohnTHaller> http://sourceforge.net/projects/regshot/
03:05:58 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: see my messages ?
03:06:55 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> [21:25:31] <@Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller|away: when you get back, the title of this page is messed up: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-07-06_-_stellarium_portable_0.10.2
03:06:55 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> [21:25:35] <@Gizmokid2005> Stellarium Portable 0.10 .2Released
03:07:38 <JohnTHaller> i fixed that
03:07:45 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> k, just makin sure :)
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03:12:28 <Wolfkin> ok I think i got one more.. so when you're prepping to make a PAF and you have all these empty folders like "DefaultData" which isn't used. Can I delete them or do I need to leave them in for the installer?
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03:29:06 <JohnTHaller> Wolfkin: You can delete DefaultData if you're not using it or leave it blank, it doesn't matter right now/
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03:30:57 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
03:33:24 <JohnTHaller> hi whibo
03:34:50 <JohnTHaller> how goes it?
03:35:13 <Whibo> fine
03:35:22 <Whibo> :)
03:39:42 <JohnTHaller> alright... sleep for me. gnight all
03:40:19 <Whibo> good night
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04:54:59 <Wolfkin> could have sworn there was a linkt to submit applications.. can anyone point me in the right direction?
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07:20:12 <upnPAD> yo MaienM
07:20:25 <MaienM> hello upnPAD
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07:20:32 <upnPAD> do you know how to get ops in a chan
07:20:36 <MaienM> and hello PatrickPatience
07:20:41 <PatrickPatience> Yo.
07:20:48 <MaienM> upnPAD: depends, is it your channnel?
07:20:54 <upnPAD> yeah
07:21:00 <MaienM> if it is, do /msg chanserv op #channel
07:21:34 <upnPAD> ta
07:21:39 <upnPAD> and if it's not you can't?
07:22:01 <MaienM> you can enable auto-oping for yourself by doing /msg chanserv flags #channel upnPAD +O
07:22:16 <MaienM> depends on what priveleges (flags) you have on the channel
07:22:32 <upnPAD> ah k
07:22:34 <upnPAD> yeah i remember that
07:22:36 <upnPAD> ty
07:22:39 <upnPAD> :)
07:22:43 <MaienM> yw ;)
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08:20:31 <HypnoToad> oh noes, I scared off Espreon!
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08:21:46 <HypnoToad> wb Espreon
08:22:09 <Espreon> Hello, and thanks, HypnoToad.
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09:21:37 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
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09:22:49 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
09:22:56 <SteveLamerton> Heya MaienM
09:23:40 <MaienM> whats up?
09:24:10 <SteveLamerton> Not much, with you?
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09:25:38 <MaienM> finished with school for now :D
09:25:55 <SteveLamerton> Nice :) How did the exams go?
09:26:18 <MaienM> pretty damn well, lowest I got was a 6 or so :D
09:27:23 <SteveLamerton> Not sure what that relates to in the UK, but well done anyway ;)
09:29:21 <MaienM> well thats on a scale of 1 to 10, so I guess that would be something like a C or so? not sure :P
09:30:13 <MaienM> much better then what I had expected, thats for sure
09:30:34 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh ok, and nice one :)
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09:56:34 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
09:59:57 <SteveLamerton> Hello ChrisMorgan
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10:20:44 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Steve :-)
10:21:23 <HypnoToad> ohai ChrisMorgan and Steve
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10:28:39 <HypnoToad> ohai Oni-Neoxes
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10:30:23 <Oni-Neoxes> ohai HypnoToad
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10:49:09 <ChrisMorgan> Wow... the Billy Mays Caps Lock thing surprises me...
10:49:21 <SergentSiler> lol
10:49:23 <Oni-Neoxes> ChrisMorgan, why is that
10:49:46 <Oni-Neoxes> im loving it <3
10:49:57 <SergentSiler> it made digg last night :P
10:50:07 <Oni-Neoxes> SergentSiler, link me naow D:<
10:50:11 <SergentSiler> lol
10:50:14 <SergentSiler> h/o
10:50:16 <ChrisMorgan> It's unexpected from serious John :P
10:50:17 * SergentSiler has lagz
10:50:28 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
10:50:43 <Oni-Neoxes> Keep pressing caps lock. It's great XD
10:51:02 <Oni-Neoxes> Hi it will order heres how
10:51:14 <ChrisMorgan> IE8 doesn't do anything with the <base> tag... :/
10:51:36 <ChrisMorgan> ... which breaks SVG support in WaterSums ... not that it works on Vista anyway.
10:51:41 <SergentSiler> Oni-Neoxes, http://digg.com/search?s=caps+lock first on list
10:51:47 <SergentSiler> it only had one digg when i saw it
10:51:51 <ChrisMorgan> 13 nwo
10:52:05 <SergentSiler> it has 5000+ diggs now :D
10:52:12 <Oni-Neoxes> Nice :D
10:52:33 <ChrisMorgan> Why does it say "13 diggs" on JohnHaller.com then, a different article?
10:53:12 <Oni-Neoxes> ChrisMorgan, some other person posted that
10:53:21 <SergentSiler> woah ChrisMorgan
10:53:30 <SergentSiler> just found that one O_O
10:53:35 <SergentSiler> http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful_stuff/billy_mays_caps_lock/
10:53:54 <ChrisMorgan> WHY!? Why can't they take the perfectly good one /he/ made, and instead have to create another article about it!?
10:53:57 <Oni-Neoxes> LEts all digg it up >:D
10:54:02 <SergentSiler> i found it on digg and put it aside for a while, then i saw it and i was like WTF
10:54:45 * SergentSiler diggs it
10:54:46 <ChrisMorgan> View WaterSums' generated HTML file in IE 7 on Vista and it works fine, but view it in WaterSums and the Adobe SVG Viewer doesn't work in the embedded IE control... Dad's unable to find the cause, and so am I :-(
10:56:44 <HypnoToad> ...what?
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10:57:49 <ChrisMorgan> Shameless advertising for WaterSums... I should kick myself ;-)
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11:02:59 <HypnoToad> /msg chanserv akick #portableapps ADD ChrisMor@unaffiliated/chrismorgan
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11:03:23 <SergentSiler> ...
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11:11:16 <ChrisMorgan> HypnoToad: easy enough to change the real name...
11:11:24 <ChrisMorgan> A better one is just plain ChrisMorgan.
11:11:33 <HypnoToad> /msg chanserv akick #portableapps ADD *@unaffiliated/chrismorgan
11:11:38 <HypnoToad> fixed =P
11:12:28 <ChrisMorgan> How about just plain "ChrisMorgan"?
11:12:32 <SergentSiler> lol
11:12:45 <ChrisMorgan> Come on, do it! Don't you have the courage? ;-)
11:12:52 <SergentSiler> /cs akick #Portableapps add ChrisMorgan@*!* :P
11:13:15 <ChrisMorgan> AH! An almost sensible mask, SergentSiler!
11:13:16 <HypnoToad> but what happens if he comes in as ChrisMorgan42, or any of his other nicks?
11:13:29 <ChrisMorgan> What happens ... if he removes the ban?
11:13:41 <SergentSiler> lol
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13:01:02 <pa_3717> hello. i have a question. i put my own app in the portableapps folder so i could add it to the portable apps menu. I need to give it a start parameter. is that possible?
13:01:57 <pa_3717> also, can i make an app start everytime the portableapps menu is loaded?
13:02:17 <Oni-Neoxes> What version of the Portableapps menu you have?
13:02:44 <pa_3717> latest
13:03:05 <pa_3717> 1.5.2'
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13:03:14 <Oni-Neoxes> okay. just hover your mouse over the app you want to autostart. right click. and click "automatically start"
13:03:48 <pa_3717> i right click and it only gives me the option to rename...
13:04:10 <Oni-Neoxes> hmm
13:05:54 <Oni-Neoxes> open your menu. click help. than click "about portableapps.com platform"
13:06:14 <pa_3717> 1.5.1
13:06:15 <pa_3717> err
13:06:16 <pa_3717> 1.5.2
13:06:20 <pa_3717> not 1.5.1
13:08:38 <Oni-Neoxes> I see now
13:09:26 <Oni-Neoxes> try this:
13:09:59 <Oni-Neoxes> go to "X:\portableapps\portableapps.com\data"
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13:10:16 <Oni-Neoxes> what app are you trying to autostart?
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13:10:32 <pa_3717> pageant (i put it on there)
13:10:39 <Oni-Neoxes> ok
13:11:03 <pa_3717> Oni-Neoxes: ok, now what
13:11:10 <Oni-Neoxes> I'm not sure if this will owrk but edit "portableappsmenu.ini"
13:11:16 <pa_3717> ok
13:11:25 <Oni-Neoxes> at the bottom type: "[AppsAutoStart]
13:11:25 <Oni-Neoxes> "
13:11:49 <pa_3717> ok
13:11:54 <Oni-Neoxes> Type in the name and exe like this: "pagent/pagent.exe=1"
13:12:02 <Oni-Neoxes> save and restart the menu. see if that works
13:12:57 <pa_3717> it did not. let me try it with a real portable app first though
13:13:06 <Oni-Neoxes> actually
13:13:17 <Oni-Neoxes> the portableapps menu beta has it
13:13:19 <Oni-Neoxes> http://portableapps.com/node/18859
13:13:49 <Oni-Neoxes> That gives you the option in the right click to autostart
13:13:53 <pa_3717> lemme just use that hten :)
13:14:07 <Oni-Neoxes> k
13:14:14 <pa_3717> is there a way to force a startup parameter on portable apps?
13:15:26 <Oni-Neoxes> that i'm not really sure of
13:15:40 <MaienM> not though the menu, no
13:15:47 <MaienM> you will have to make a launcher for it
13:16:02 <pa_3717> Oni-Neoxes: how do i upgrade? just install over?
13:16:06 <pa_3717> MaienM: is that hard to do?
13:16:09 <Oni-Neoxes> yea
13:16:13 <Oni-Neoxes> just install over
13:16:36 <pa_3717> can it be done with a bat script? or do i need to compile?
13:16:58 <MaienM> you could compile a bat script to a exe, there are programs that do that
13:17:12 <dbdii407> i used to use one
13:17:29 <Oni-Neoxes> i heard "bat2exe" is good
13:17:32 <MaienM> although I would advice to use AutoHotKey instead, since many exes that come from bats are reported as viruses by scanners, or so I've heard
13:17:33 <dbdii407> I think it just called itself Bat to Exe Converter
13:17:54 <dbdii407> MaienM: Eh. Point.
13:19:00 <pa_3717> MaienM: but is that avail for portableapps?
13:19:31 <MaienM> pa_3717: you just use autohotkey to create a launcher, so yeah that would work
13:19:59 <MaienM> the exe would do what you are using the bat for now, so passing the parameters
13:20:20 <pa_3717> interesting
13:20:24 <pa_3717> lemme look into that :)
13:20:27 <pa_3717> thanks for your help
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13:21:58 <Oni-Neoxes> Glad to help
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13:44:25 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
13:44:25 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
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13:52:27 <Oni-Neoxes> <.<
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14:30:18 <Wes|IT> Well i hate that freenode blocked mibbit
14:30:50 <Wes|IT> b ut im glad they gave us an alternative widget for your site
14:31:04 <Wes|IT> http://weshelp.co.cc/irc/
14:32:27 <Wes|IT> brb
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14:47:24 <ZachThibeau> howdy all
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15:05:09 <JohnTHaller> hola
15:05:29 <MaienM> hello JohnTHaller
15:05:32 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
15:05:37 <SergentSiler> ello JTH
15:06:00 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
15:06:18 <Bensawsome> ^_^
15:06:31 <Oni-Neoxes> JohnTHaller. Brillient Work on the Billy Mays key
15:06:43 <Oni-Neoxes> I simply love it
15:08:09 <Bensawsome> *Brilliant :P
15:08:22 <SergentSiler> lol
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15:11:54 <JohnTHaller> Oni-Neoxes: Thanks :-)
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15:21:55 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller can you see this response? (the one made today by me) http://portableapps.com/node/19851#comment-122400
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15:25:22 <Bensawsome> THERE HAS BEEN A FAILURE ON TEH INTERNETS
15:25:42 <Bensawsome> ok JohnTHaller so MaienM can see my latest response on firefox but not on opera
15:25:48 <Bensawsome> and then SergentSiler cant see it on firefox
15:25:53 <Bensawsome> and i can see it on ff
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15:26:27 <Bensawsome> just thought i'd tell ya JohnTHaller >_>
15:30:47 <JohnTHaller> it depends on whether you are logged in. the site caches for guests. takes about 15 mins to hit.
15:31:07 * MaienM facepalms
15:31:09 * SergentSiler headdesks and logs in
15:31:17 <SergentSiler> THERE it is
15:31:21 <MaienM> duh, why didn't I think of that.... I knew it caches for guests xD
15:31:46 <Bensawsome> lol
15:31:55 <Bensawsome> ty JohnTHaller
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15:41:55 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: The Mana World 0.0.29.1 Rev 3: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-07-07_-_the_mana_world_portable_0.0.29.1_rev_3
15:42:43 <jnw222> yay
15:43:11 <Bensawsome> :DDDDD
15:43:12 <Bensawsome> kewl
15:43:45 <jnw222> :P
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15:53:25 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Java Portable Launcher 1.1: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-07-07_-_java_portable_launcher_1.1
15:53:57 <Bensawsome> ooh :D
15:54:02 * Bensawsome high fives JohnTHaller
15:54:15 <Bensawsome> your really pumpin out those releases today :D
16:03:11 <MaienM> thanks JohnTHaller :)
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16:06:53 <Oni-Neoxes> sorry im not talking much. helping a friend with their ocmputer
16:06:56 <Oni-Neoxes> computer*
16:14:20 <JohnTHaller> The site is down. RackSpace blew up. Again.
16:15:30 <SrgSiler|DnD> heh
16:15:43 <SrgSiler|DnD> what is it this time? :P
16:16:07 <JohnTHaller> ANOTHER power outtage
16:16:14 <SrgSiler|DnD> XD
16:16:15 <JohnTHaller> took the whole wing again, including their own homepage
16:16:29 * SrgSiler|DnD smells failure
16:16:41 <Oni-Neoxes> back
16:16:48 <Oni-Neoxes> That was... HORRIBLE
16:16:54 <Oni-Neoxes> also big storm here >.>
16:17:10 <Oni-Neoxes> but Billy Mays Makes my day sunny :D
16:17:13 * Oni-Neoxes press caps lock
16:18:09 <MaienM> damn, another rackspace failure? :(
16:18:26 <MaienM> lets hope they get it all sorted out soon, and for good
16:18:38 <SrgSiler|DnD> +1
16:18:41 <SrgSiler|DnD> bbl
16:23:55 <Oni-Neoxes> guys. if anyone pings me and I don't respond. It's of two things. My head aspload or my power gets cut off.
16:23:57 <Oni-Neoxes> Bad storm
16:24:53 *** JohnTHaller changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Our site is currently down due to a major power failure at RackSpace."
16:25:17 *** JohnTHaller changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Our site is currently down due to a major power failure at RackSpace. | If you need assistance, just say "help!" | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission."
16:27:02 <Oni-Neoxes> ugh
16:27:09 <Oni-Neoxes> ganna go. VERY horrible storm
16:27:16 <Oni-Neoxes> I think it's above us too >_<
16:27:28 <Oni-Neoxes> see ya guys later
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16:32:45 <Scriptdaemon> Host down again?
16:33:01 <Scriptdaemon> Nvm, just read the topic.
16:33:02 <Scriptdaemon> >.>
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16:46:15 <Bensawsome> another power failure??????
16:46:28 <Bensawsome> this is the third one isnt it? wtf is up with these guys
16:47:10 <JohnTHaller> 4th
16:47:23 <Bensawsome> ?! 4th??? jease. why is this happening to them>????
16:51:00 <JohnTHaller> I have a proposal/contract in hand from another host I'm currently reviewing
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16:54:09 <Bensawsome> cool JohnTHaller :) cause this is really getting annoying :/
16:54:37 <Bensawsome> well more then annoying for you... WAY more :(
16:57:17 <JohnTHaller> I was up til 2am getting the database back online last time.
16:57:30 <Bensawsome> :(
16:57:47 <Bensawsome> ya you shouldnt have to go through that
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17:26:59 * JohnTHaller is working on VLC Portable 1.0
17:27:11 <ZachThibeau> yay :D
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17:36:19 <JohnTHaller> server is finally accessible again. setting it up with the offline message: http://portableapps.com/
17:36:45 <Bensawsome> :D
17:36:46 <Oni-Neoxes> JohnTHaller, I love the offline message :D
17:36:54 <Bensawsome> cool JohnTHaller what data did we lose? D:
17:36:57 <Oni-Neoxes> Looks AWSOME. lol
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17:42:42 <JohnTHaller> I added the recent releases to it.
17:47:39 <AppGuy> That is nice of you to do that
17:53:42 <JohnTHaller> Ok, server is back up. Database is corrupted... again. I just walked the tech through the needed procedure and will be called directly with the progress and an ETA. I will update as soon as I know more...
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17:55:49 <Bensawsome> JohnTHaller so the tech is gonna take care of restoring it? :D
17:56:31 <JohnTHaller> yeah, but I may need to walk him through it. since I've been through this twice before.
17:56:52 <Bensawsome> ah
17:56:54 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
17:57:22 <Bensawsome> ok well atleast you wont have to stay for the whole thing :D
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18:44:08 <dbdii407> JohnTHaller: This is going to hold everything back won't it?
18:45:48 <JohnTHaller> yup
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18:47:27 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> JohnTHaller: you have a contract with Rackspace I assume, make sure you get some money back from them, I'm sure there's a clause in there about downtime...
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19:04:18 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, we will get some credits.
19:06:35 <dbdii407> What do they mean by "credits"
19:08:33 <JohnTHaller> they give you some of your money back
19:08:45 <JohnTHaller> the SLA is 5% of your monthly per 30 minutes of downtime up to 100%
19:09:05 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> so you should be close to 50% or more right?
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19:09:46 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is the awsomest and is... OMG!!! PIE!!! <3
19:09:54 <JohnTHaller> I think it should be 70-80% for last month unless they try and screw us and say only network or power downtime counts instead of the consequences of it. (Namely database corruption as a direct result that took their engineers 7 hours to fix)
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19:10:34 <Gizmokid|Mac> keep it up with them, god knows they'll try to keep as much money as possible.
19:10:40 <Gizmokid|Mac> now I'm glad I didn't go with rackspace for my hosting.
19:10:48 <SergentSiler> palogbot, uri
19:10:48 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-07-07#T19-10-48
19:10:51 <SergentSiler> ty :)
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19:17:19 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I've been kinda wishing I'd gone with Peer1. It was between Peer1 and RackSpace when I'd originally moved to a dedicated box.
19:18:11 <Gizmokid|Mac> Yeah, I'm still with manobanweb, regrettably, but I've not found anything better or as reliable....
19:18:48 <jnw2221> two questions, 1, why do i appear twice under the list of people in this room, 2, why is the site down again?
19:18:50 <Bensawsome> i find vexxhost is reliable but i dont think its for bigger hosting like john uses >_>
19:19:03 <Bensawsome> jnw222 you lost your intnerent
19:19:05 <Bensawsome> *internet
19:19:14 <Bensawsome> you need to ghost your double
19:19:18 <Bensawsome> and change ur nick back
19:19:23 <Bensawsome> its a stupid thing with irc
19:19:58 <SergentSiler> jnw222, /msg nickserv ghost jnw222 password
19:20:02 <SergentSiler> er
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19:20:09 <SergentSiler> @ jnw2221
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19:23:02 <jnw2221> oh yeah
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19:23:12 <jnw2221> YAY
19:23:14 <SergentSiler> ^_^
19:23:47 <jnw2221> :-D
19:23:55 <Bensawsome> now jnw2221 /nick jnw222
19:24:04 <jnw2221> why
19:24:07 <jnw2221> i am jnw222
19:24:11 <Bensawsome> no you arent
19:24:13 <SergentSiler> no ur not
19:24:14 <SergentSiler> lol
19:24:17 <Bensawsome> ur jnw222*1*
19:24:18 <SergentSiler> u has a 1 on the end
19:24:22 <jnw2221> oh well who cares
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19:24:26 <Bensawsome> ok...
19:24:29 <Bensawsome> lol
19:24:30 <jnw222> YAY
19:24:31 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: VLC Media Player Portable 1.0: http://portableapps.com/
19:24:36 * SergentSiler would have facepalmed
19:24:40 <SergentSiler> nice JTH
19:24:51 <SergentSiler> lots of releases today :D
19:25:39 <jnw222> yep:)
19:25:53 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, trying not to let the outage slow me down.
19:25:59 <SergentSiler> lol
19:26:06 <Gizmokid|Mac> I'll have to catch up on them later on my pc lol
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19:28:52 <Bensawsome> lol internets go byby >_>
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19:29:34 <JohnTHaller> was upgrading virtualbox and forgot to logout of IRC first
19:29:45 <Gizmokid|Mac> lol oops
19:29:46 <Bensawsome> ah
19:30:07 <Bensawsome> hmmm itunes store seems to be screwy
19:30:18 <Bensawsome> ie not working :/
19:33:13 <JohnTHaller> ETA on PA.c: 20 minutes
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19:33:53 <Bensawsome> :D
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19:35:19 <ZachThibeau> excellent :D
19:35:31 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: whats the eta for your server?
19:35:43 <Bensawsome> lol no idea
19:35:55 * Bensawsome looks at networkissues page
19:36:22 <Bensawsome> We are doing an emergency migration to new hardware for this server because of constant issues. We are currently provisioning and installing the servers. The migration will be done in the alphabetical order of usernames. If you'd like your account to be prioritized please send an email to support@vexxhost.com and we will prioritize your account We apologize for the inconvienence caused by this and we understand your frustration howeve
19:36:22 <Bensawsome> r we are working on this as hard and fast as we can. Date - 06/07/2009 17:30
19:36:30 <Bensawsome> oh shoot shouldnt of pasted it here XD
19:45:39 <JohnTHaller> For anyone that wants to follow updates in the future: http://twitter.com/PortableApps
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19:59:22 <JohnTHaller> We're back online: http://portableapps.com/
19:59:44 <Gizmokid|Mac> yay! :D
20:00:05 <Bensawsome> WIN
20:02:04 <MaienM> back, and better then ever? ;)
20:02:30 <JohnTHaller> Here's the proper release announcement for VLC Media Player Portable 1.0 now: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-07-07_-_vlc_media_player_portable_1.0
20:02:32 <Bensawsome> wow JohnTHaller my site got up at the exact same time O_O
20:02:52 <Bensawsome> i lol'd
20:02:54 <MaienM> yay, that means mine is back up too :)
20:02:55 <daBomb69> @_@
20:03:00 <Bensawsome> yep MaienM :D
20:03:26 <Bensawsome> and ZachThibeau's too >_>
20:03:40 <ZachThibeau> :D
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20:04:56 <dbdii407> Bensawsome: So that's why scrapirc wasn't... ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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20:13:11 <dbdii407> JohnTHaller: I just noticed this. The Lightscreen release isn't showing on the homepage.
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20:25:35 <JohnTHaller> fixed dbdii407
20:26:32 <dbdii407> Thanks.
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21:07:01 <vpcer> hello
21:07:10 <daBomb69> Hi vpcer
21:07:30 * vpcer does the portable vpc work like real vpc?
21:08:53 <daBomb69> vpc?
21:08:55 <vpcer> ?
21:09:02 <vpcer> virtual pc
21:09:28 <vpcer> here http://portableapps.com/node/10308
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21:12:32 <Bensawsome> vpcer if they did it correctly then yes it should
21:12:44 <daBomb69> But it might not
21:13:04 <daBomb69> we don't know, caus eit's still in beta, and none of us have tried it
21:13:11 <Bensawsome> but thats a beta app that i doubt anyone knows much about since its almost 2 years old
21:13:24 <vpcer> i mean, will it require a vmm driver like the real one/
21:13:43 <Bensawsome> well like we said we dunno :/
21:14:06 <daBomb69> ya, none of us ever used it... soo...
21:14:11 <Gizmokid|Mac> vpcer: it will for it to work, which means it probably won't work
21:14:14 <vpcer> the real one requires a Virtual Machine Monitor on any host computer
21:14:39 <vpcer> so nobody packaged one/
21:14:41 <vpcer> ?
21:14:50 <Bensawsome> well drivers cant be portable
21:14:59 <Bensawsome> they require admin priveledges to install anyways
21:15:06 <Bensawsome> so it wont work even if it included them
21:16:13 <vpcer> and the worst part is you cant find one without the rest of the software
21:17:18 <Bensawsome> even if you could it wouldnt work without admin.......
21:17:46 <vpcer> oh well bye
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21:18:19 <Bensawsome> lol internet
21:20:56 <Oni-Neoxes> 91% done with the new video
21:21:35 <Oni-Neoxes> part 1 is done >.>
21:21:43 <Oni-Neoxes> time to make part 2 of my video :D
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21:29:13 <daBomb69> hey gluxon :)
21:29:28 <gluxon> Hey
21:29:35 <daBomb69> sup?
21:30:17 <gluxon> I can't stay for long
21:30:28 <daBomb69> :(
21:31:52 * JohnTHaller finally got the updater working with all SF mirrors automatically :-D
21:32:00 <Gizmokid|Mac> good JohnTHaller :)
21:32:30 <JohnTHaller> took forever to get that working just right
21:33:16 <JohnTHaller> so now i have it to the point where it sees what needs updating and can run the installers in unattended mode automatically. so, just need to fix up the advanced settings and clean it up and then I can post it with the next PR of the platform.
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21:36:51 <ZachThibeau> yay :D
21:37:37 <AppGuy> awesome!
21:37:49 <Bensawsome> win JohnTHaller!
21:37:51 <Oni-Neoxes> sweet. Youtube (google >_>) has a new twitter service thingy :p
21:38:06 <Oni-Neoxes> Whenever you upload a video. It's goes onto your twitter :d
21:39:11 <Bensawsome> lol
21:39:16 <Bensawsome> thats been their for a while :P
21:40:02 <Oni-Neoxes> I haven't uploaded a video in quite some time ya know <.<
21:40:08 <Bensawsome> lol
21:40:14 * Bensawsome has
21:40:28 <Bensawsome> im gonna be much more since i have a computer that can edit movies well :D
21:40:36 <Bensawsome> and can record them in higher quality too
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21:43:25 <Oni-Neoxes> I'm sooo not uploading a 1.8GB video on my connection >.>
21:43:31 <Bensawsome> lolololol
21:43:44 * Bensawsome gives Oni-Neoxes soome of his 30 mb/s internet
21:43:49 <Bensawsome> :P
21:44:04 <Oni-Neoxes> :D
21:44:07 <Oni-Neoxes> I wish XP
21:44:08 <Gizmokid|Mac> lol
21:44:18 <Gizmokid|Mac> recode it
21:44:21 <Gizmokid|Mac> to a smaller file
21:44:38 <Oni-Neoxes> i found out way >.>
21:44:45 <Bensawsome> but then it aint as high quality
21:44:48 <Bensawsome> why Oni-Neoxes?
21:44:50 <Oni-Neoxes> Sony Vegas 9 doesn't compress the files XP
21:44:54 <Bensawsome> lol
21:45:36 <Oni-Neoxes> D:<
21:45:42 <Oni-Neoxes> Windows Movie Maker SUCKS
21:45:49 <Oni-Neoxes> can't import an .avi file
21:46:16 <Oni-Neoxes> hmm
21:46:41 <Bensawsome> Oni-Neoxes imovie ftw :P
21:46:49 <Oni-Neoxes> <.<
21:46:54 <Bensawsome> or final cut pro
21:46:56 <Oni-Neoxes> Sony Vegas 9 ftw :P
21:47:00 <Bensawsome> whichever suits ur fancy
21:47:22 <Oni-Neoxes> That's prolly the reason why I would like a mac. the editing software :P
21:47:46 <Gizmokid|Mac> imovie ftw for sure
21:48:07 * daBomb69 <3 iMovie...
21:48:14 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
21:48:33 * daBomb69 <3<3 Graduge(Spelling?)Band
21:48:44 * Bensawsome high ives Gizmokid|Mac
21:48:48 <Bensawsome> *fives
21:48:55 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
21:49:02 * daBomb69 wishes he had a macx
21:49:04 <daBomb69> *mac
21:49:06 <Bensawsome> unfortunately the last 2 version of imovie are really screwy. im still using imovie hd
21:49:11 <Oni-Neoxes> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=imovie+for+windows&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&fp=9H_fFVtkJ-U
21:49:12 <Gizmokid|Mac> daBomb69: Garage band
21:49:23 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
21:49:25 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005|AFK, thnx
21:49:29 <Oni-Neoxes> http://www.wired.com/software/softwarereviews/news/2007/09/adobe_premiere4
21:49:32 <Oni-Neoxes> fixed link :p
21:49:37 <Gizmokid|Mac> daBomb69: yw
21:49:46 * daBomb69 was SURE garage had a d and a u in it :P
21:50:40 * WastePotato uses the macs in his school almost as much as he uses his laptop at home. o_O
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21:54:32 <Oni-Neoxes> hey guys. whats the best compression tool for videos you know
21:54:37 <Oni-Neoxes> Thats for windows <_<
21:55:51 <daBomb69> Oni-Neoxes, this really cool program called Linux! :P\
21:56:03 <Oni-Neoxes> fail
21:56:08 <Oni-Neoxes> That's not a program
21:56:11 <Oni-Neoxes> thats an OS XD
21:56:28 <daBomb69> Well, technically, it's just a bunch of programs...
21:56:47 <MaienM> no its not
21:56:54 <Bensawsome> darnit i hate how all my desktops are 10/100 ethernet ports :/
21:57:06 <Bensawsome> and then my laptop and router its 10/100/1000
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21:58:07 <Bensawsome> wow... im only getting 10mb/s on a local network file transfer....
21:59:39 <Gizmokid|Mac> Bensawsome: you have to remember, drive loads and speeds come into play too, as well as system loads
21:59:56 <Bensawsome> ya true i guess...
22:00:11 * MaienM continues to work on the list of stuff for his next pc
22:00:14 <Bensawsome> the computer im transvering it from is an ide drive
22:00:18 <Bensawsome> *transfering
22:00:38 <MaienM> actually, the only thing I still have to decide on is the PSU, no idea what kind of power I need :P
22:00:49 <Bensawsome> lol. nice MaienM
22:00:58 <Bensawsome> get a nice high power one :D
22:01:32 <MaienM> I want to get a silent one rather then a overpowered one ;)
22:01:47 <Bensawsome> lol
22:01:51 <Gizmokid|Mac> MaienM: the one I have is 650W and dead silent
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22:03:27 <Gizmokid|Mac> MaienM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152035
22:03:57 <JohnTHaller> alright, i'm off til later.
22:04:03 <Bensawsome> cya JohnTHaller
22:04:06 <Gizmokid|Mac> cya JohnTHaller
22:04:06 <MaienM> I really hope I can get newegg to ship to me once I have the money, since atm all stuff I have and all saved links are for there :P
22:04:17 <Gizmokid|Mac> lol
22:04:19 <Gizmokid|Mac> email them and ask
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22:04:39 <Bensawsome> XD
22:07:18 * MaienM ponders whether 650W would be enough or not
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22:07:35 * Bensawsome thinks get over 9000
22:07:36 <Bensawsome> :P
22:09:25 <Gizmokid|Mac> MaienM: what are you planning on running
22:09:30 <Gizmokid|Mac> I can almost GUARANTEE it will be.
22:09:48 <MaienM> yeah I think it would be
22:10:31 <Gizmokid|Mac> considering I'm running a quad core cpu, 4 gb ram, an HD4870 gpu, 3 sata drives, and 2 sata DVD burners and have no issues...plus about 4 different fans and a pci slot fan card.
22:11:17 <MaienM> well I just have 2 GB of ram more then that and a little bit newer card planned
22:11:22 <Bensawsome> lol
22:11:32 * Bensawsome is getting 8gb of ram as of august 2010
22:12:03 <Gizmokid|Mac> MaienM: like what? That card is one of the biggest power hogs out there :P did I mention my system runs under full load 24/7?
22:12:10 <MaienM> considering the current prices of RAM, I might consider going for even more then 6
22:12:30 <MaienM> I'm planning on the HD4890 Toxic
22:12:32 <Oni-Neoxes> >.>
22:12:35 <Oni-Neoxes> wow
22:12:37 <Gizmokid|Mac> ahh
22:12:43 <Gizmokid|Mac> I won't spend more than $200 on a GPU so...
22:13:06 <Oni-Neoxes> I wish I had a job to get an awesome computer :p
22:13:14 <Oni-Neoxes> so I can get*
22:15:24 <MaienM> well since I look at is in EUR not USD, its below the 200 line :P
22:17:10 <Gizmokid|Mac> yeah
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22:35:42 * jnw222 has 1 gb of ram on his computer
22:39:40 * daBomb69 haz got 448mb on his
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22:39:55 <jnw222> wo wdabomb
22:40:15 * daBomb69 haz win!
22:40:29 <jnw222> i used to have 256 mb years ago, but have upgraded to 512, then 1024
22:40:35 * jnw222 uses linux
22:40:41 * daBomb69 uses windows
22:41:05 * ZachThibeau using winux
22:41:16 <jnw222> winux?
22:41:19 <ZachThibeau> :D aka the windows/linux dualboot system :P
22:41:24 <jnw222> oh
22:41:38 <jnw222> should say windows and linux
22:41:49 <ZachThibeau> I like being different ;)
22:41:52 <jnw222> me to
22:41:57 <jnw222> IE fails
22:41:58 <ZachThibeau> I wouldn't be Canadian if I didn't do that :P
22:42:11 <daBomb69> Your canadian, eh?
22:42:14 <daBomb69> :P
22:42:21 <jnw222> 8-)
22:42:49 <ZachThibeau> well first of all daBomb69 not all Canadians do the stereotypical eh :P
22:42:59 <ZachThibeau> thats patrick :P
22:43:06 <daBomb69> heh
22:43:18 <ZachThibeau> I'm the more modern Canadian ;)
22:43:29 <jnw222> =-O
22:43:38 * daBomb69 wishes he was canadian so he could have an excuse to ssay Eh? all the time :P
22:43:47 <jnw222> lol
22:43:51 * jnw222 is american
22:43:58 <jnw222> :-D
22:44:05 * daBomb69 is mozzerella
22:44:21 <jnw222> ?
22:44:31 * daBomb69 inserted a cheese pun :P
22:44:39 * MaienM is not poluting the main room with off-topic chat :P
22:44:40 <jnw222> O:-)
22:44:41 * ZachThibeau is North American
22:44:56 * ZachThibeau is an earthling :D
22:44:58 * daBomb69 <3 off-topic room polution! :P
22:45:00 * jnw222 uses the #portableapps-ot channel
22:45:01 * daBomb69 is not!
22:45:13 * jnw222 is a martain
22:45:20 <ZachThibeau> =_=
22:45:27 <ZachThibeau> I got my eyes on you
22:45:28 <ZachThibeau> :P
22:45:30 <jnw222> :-[
22:45:35 <jnw222> :-X
22:45:44 <daBomb69> <I>ZachThibeau<I>
22:45:59 <ZachThibeau> :D
22:46:01 <daBomb69> Zach, I litterally, have my I's on you!
22:46:04 <daBomb69> :P
22:46:05 <ZachThibeau> xD
22:46:06 <jnw222> >:o
22:46:11 <jnw222> XD
22:46:27 <daBomb69> :P
22:46:44 <ZachThibeau> anyways to the batmobile
22:46:47 <MaienM> guys, as I was trying to say, we have a room of off-topic chat, so take said off-topic chat to said room please
22:46:48 <jnw222> :-D
22:46:48 <jnw222> :-D
22:46:48 <jnw222> >:o
22:46:48 <jnw222> :-*
22:46:51 <ZachThibeau> (aka go to -ot)
22:51:14 <Gizmokid|Mac> jnw222: don't spam like that.
22:55:09 <MaienM> Gizmokid|Mac: yeah, according to this online calculator 650W will suffice, thanks for the link btw ;)
22:55:16 <Gizmokid|Mac> yw :)
22:55:34 <Gizmokid|Mac> gotta remember I'm running 3 hdds and 2 optical drives as well as a 125W quad core CPU
22:56:05 <MaienM> it seems that overclocking is gonna make a massive difference though ;)
22:56:22 <jnw222> yeah
22:56:32 <Gizmokid|Mac> yes and no
22:56:46 <Gizmokid|Mac> it will but it's really not all that great
22:58:20 <MaienM> well for now, I just need more money :(
22:58:31 <Gizmokid|Mac> lol I know that feeling
22:58:31 <MaienM> anyway, time to get going ;)
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22:58:38 <Gizmokid|Mac> just remember, there really is no need to oc
22:58:45 <Gizmokid|Mac> as long as you buy a base cpu that'll do what you want :)
22:58:49 <Gizmokid|Mac> why OC and decrease life :D
22:59:02 <Gizmokid|Mac> night MaienM|Sleep
22:59:12 <MaienM|Sleep> true, but a slight OC (without voltage increase and such) won't huty
22:59:15 <MaienM|Sleep> *hurt
22:59:15 <jnw222> though it can be much cheaper if you want to take risks to buy one and oc it to your needs
22:59:44 <Gizmokid|Mac> MaienM|Sleep: not much, but it still does, increased heat output.
22:59:59 <jnw222> of you have a good fan
23:00:03 <jnw222> which mine died
23:00:22 <jnw222> massive heat problems for me (have to keep my case open)
23:00:31 <Gizmokid|Mac> jnw222: good fan or not, you'd need to take drastic measures such as watercooling or something to decreased the effects.
23:02:00 <jnw222> i never oc'd mine much (2.8 to 3.0)
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